How to write the best Metal Riffs in 8 minutes

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  • @NikNocturnal
    @NikNocturnal  Рік тому +538

    *Smash like so I can show more people the way of the chugs, tyty*

  • @yvan2218
    @yvan2218 Рік тому +407

    Personal notes:
    Start simple and establish foundation riff
    Create a melody
    Build on the foundation riff, make it less boring by changing groove
    Incorporate melody into foundation or expand the melody itself into its own thing separate from the foundation
    Use blast beats, or use a base drum groove then incorporate bass drum to fit the heavy riff better
    Noted with thanks

    • @DarkBladeOniken
      @DarkBladeOniken Рік тому +6

      You forgot to shit on bass players 🎉

    • @theshillpill6937
      @theshillpill6937 Рік тому +1

      @@DarkBladeOniken hire an actual bass player. Jk, midi is good enough

    • @benjaminrapp7418
      @benjaminrapp7418 4 місяці тому

      ​@@DarkBladeOniken Sacrilege! Bassists rarely get the respect they deserve!

  • @violet__butterfly
    @violet__butterfly Рік тому +1051

    Nik tuning up to standard tuning gave me chills

  • @Luke-Hardt
    @Luke-Hardt Рік тому +591

    Nik is our new Music theory teacher lol

  • @sneakysniper8278
    @sneakysniper8278 Рік тому +273

    You’re such a good teacher Nik! Thanks for always breaking it down for us simpletons

  • @n7rth_ca
    @n7rth_ca Рік тому +100

    just when I was about to lose my mind struggling to write riffs, this came out. THANK YOU

  • @Nevysan969
    @Nevysan969 Рік тому +132

    This riff from 4:46 is fucking sick. Honestly I would like to hear a full song with it. It’s sorta of Trivium from In Waves era and Gojira alike. Dooope!

    • @billkatsanakis7327
      @billkatsanakis7327 Рік тому +6

      That reminded me of the main riff in Far From Heaven by Fit For An Autopsy

  • @TJHuck
    @TJHuck Рік тому +82

    Awesome riffs Nik! You should also show us your approach to drum parts, writing those seemed so smooth!

  • @johnl6569
    @johnl6569 Рік тому +13

    I love content like this when I'm in a rut. Been playing metal for about 25 years. Been in several bands, signed twice, recorded played many shows, and I find myself in ruts from time to time. Other genres of music and somehow videos like this help me when I'm searching for something new to create. Liked and subscribed. Keep it up man. You shred by the way. Don't hate the bassist BTW. Take it from a guy who plays bass and guitar, nothing you do to a guitar, adding strings or effects will ever duplicate or replace a bassist with good tone who actually knows how to play the instrument instead of just mirroring the guitar.

    • @Jon14141
      @Jon14141 Рік тому +2

      Nice man

    • @l-i-l-l-y6462
      @l-i-l-l-y6462 Рік тому +2

      I got so excited when he said bass riffs!! I love Nik and his videos, but he never gives bass enough love lol

  • @bolillo5013
    @bolillo5013 Рік тому +11

    This is the best explanation I've heard on riff writing. The part about adding space to creat rhythm as really helpful because I find myself chugging or playing Bleed-esque rhythms all too often . I don't plan on making 578 core even though it's sick, but this has helped me with my own sound. Also, I felt see when you used Javier Reyes' guitar as the 8-string example, because that's the 8-string I have lol.

  • @PizzaHydra
    @PizzaHydra Рік тому +40

    Honestly there are no guides as good and easy to follow as Nik's I would pay good money to have a course or somthing

  • @Leviathan3721
    @Leviathan3721 Рік тому +27

    NIk, your tutorials are awesome bro, actually making music theory fun and easy to understand!

  • @douchecraft3113
    @douchecraft3113 Рік тому +16

    the amount of memes you tie in with actual good advice is gnarly

  • @dunnock343
    @dunnock343 Рік тому +29

    Nik, I’d like to see you make a list for people who’d like to get into heavier music. The idea is to start with a rock song and the next song will be a little bit heavier, do this until you get to the heaviest song you know. Basically a stepping stone playlist so people can determine how heavy they wanna go.

    • @aidanmahoney9865
      @aidanmahoney9865 Рік тому

      Starts with American Idiot, ends with XAVLEGBMAOFFFASSSSITIMIWOAMNDUTROABCWAPWAEIIPPOHFFFX

    • @ComputerPerson6000
      @ComputerPerson6000 Рік тому +7

      Blink 182
      Linkin Park
      My Chemical Romance
      Bullet for my Valentine
      Killswitch Engage
      As I Lay Dying
      Parkway Drive
      Everytime I Die
      The Dillinger Escape Plan
      Hope that helps.

    • @TheLaughinator
      @TheLaughinator Місяць тому +1

      @@ComputerPerson6000 oh, my list is more like
      The Offspring
      System of a Down, Linkin Park
      Korn
      Slipknot
      Megadeth
      Cannibal Corpse
      Mortician
      Meshuggah

    • @ComputerPerson6000
      @ComputerPerson6000 Місяць тому

      @TheLaughinator That's a good list but not core-kid enough for this comment section

  • @riffsplayedinalternatekeys
    @riffsplayedinalternatekeys Рік тому +9

    I actually really liked the simple drums with the more technical riff. It sounded cool

  • @Gh0stDiaz
    @Gh0stDiaz Рік тому +7

    0:36 Nik: "You could be a guitarist"
    Then shows a pic of a bass player during a break down!
    Classic😂

  • @tyler6493
    @tyler6493 Рік тому +4

    PLEASE make more tutorials like this. I feel like these kind of lessons are what I need to really get back into it.

  • @ArchitectOfTheEnd
    @ArchitectOfTheEnd Рік тому +2

    thought my boy was gonna come up with the Machine Head - Locust main riff in 5 secs of improvising at 3:00 lol, great video!

  • @scottmclennan9231
    @scottmclennan9231 28 днів тому

    I'm an intermediate guitar player. I'm super fascinated to great detail in how you made those drums.
    That appeared to be such a no-nonsense way to do things

  • @johnmorganmanley5383
    @johnmorganmanley5383 Рік тому +9

    He's actually such a talented writer

  • @GozMaster
    @GozMaster Рік тому +6

    Thats it, I'm quitting my job as a marketing director and forming a chug metal band. Now that i have the power of riffage.
    This was great Nik. Thank you.

  • @kazuyakurayami9844
    @kazuyakurayami9844 Рік тому +41

    That technical riff was FIRE🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @thegodofpez
    @thegodofpez Рік тому +7

    A.) Love the editing.
    B.) Love that lowered drop C sound. Chunky is funky. 🤟🔥

  • @QQyoko
    @QQyoko Рік тому +5

    The drums and guitar on the newest Phinehas album lock in *so tight* and it sounds phenomenal. Maybe the first album I ever listened to where it just stood out how dang good the combo was.

  • @wintersorrow8937
    @wintersorrow8937 Рік тому +7

    To be fair bass is actually really important for supporting the guitar and making a tone that sounds better.
    Also what is that drum tone program? Sounds great. Your production is really getting better.

    • @RyanHarville
      @RyanHarville Рік тому +3

      Let me know if you find the drums he uses!

    • @xaza5625
      @xaza5625 Рік тому +1

      fr we need it wtf

    • @Zephre
      @Zephre Рік тому

      I need to know this too!

    • @RyanHarville
      @RyanHarville Рік тому

      @Dr. Kujo Jotaro I think it's the Modern and Massive drum set with some pre-production applied to it. I searched his old videos and that's what he used, so I'm assuming it's the same stuff.

  • @wolfieenightcore6701
    @wolfieenightcore6701 Рік тому +4

    Wow this is exactly what I needed, just a few days ago I started working on my first ever metal song and I just watched your how to make amazing choruses video and now I see this one!

  • @lucascerbasi4518
    @lucascerbasi4518 Рік тому +6

    I love your tutorial videos! Was starting to miss them.

  • @drewvaldez
    @drewvaldez Рік тому +1

    Love your stuff. Especially the “make anything metal” content. But, I feel like you have a lot more to offer than typical metal and would absolutely LOVE to see you put out some math metal or post metal à la Botch or Pelican. Thanks for all you do

  • @Joriaku
    @Joriaku Рік тому +22

    7:00 Expected a Davie504 to come in breaking the door down

  • @CodyJacksonJackson8812
    @CodyJacksonJackson8812 Рік тому +11

    I always enjoy these teaching videos of yours! 🤘

  • @H3kler
    @H3kler Рік тому +9

    *Checks comments for attacked bass players.*

  • @Null-my7ix
    @Null-my7ix Рік тому +5

    I'd say that Crowbar will always have the heaviest riffs in the business. Low-tuned, groovy chugs and breakdowns with all sorts of heavy chords.

    • @Pietreszcz
      @Pietreszcz Рік тому +1

      I swear Planets Collide is still one of the heaviest songs in the universe even though it's "only" in B standard

    • @wafflemanofficial3130
      @wafflemanofficial3130 Рік тому

      Heaviest riff for me's gotta be Sacrifice unto Sebek by Nile

  • @Zeagods-CyberShadow
    @Zeagods-CyberShadow Рік тому +2

    Thank you So much Nik. Ive been struggling with how to come up with a good heavy grooving Nu metal or just any kind of Grooving metal. You just helped me so much

  • @GodlessPhilosopher
    @GodlessPhilosopher Рік тому +5

    Awesome! Those complicated technical riffs were cool too. Have you done a how-to video on those? Also please do a how-to on how you make your drum beats! love

  • @davefoskett2418
    @davefoskett2418 Рік тому +7

    Love your vids Nic! btw that initial riff you started with sounds like the pre chorus to Locust by Machinehead😛

  • @rez6624
    @rez6624 Рік тому +6

    The only thing I want from you: I sick modern metal riff in e standard

  • @DaanPunaan
    @DaanPunaan Рік тому +2

    I actually like the offset of simple drums + technical riff and vice versa. Simple riff + technical drums works very well. I feel if one instrument is being busy then the rest must take a back seat for that moment,

  • @m_takma
    @m_takma Рік тому +5

    I love the "Tuning: Metal" in the description, haha!

  • @justinpolaski5713
    @justinpolaski5713 Рік тому

    Been following your channel for a while and enjoying man, but little videos like this remind us that behind the fun and memes you're a really solid musician

  • @fredxu99
    @fredxu99 Рік тому +1

    An excellent riff to see this in action IMO is Wasted by Def Leppard. You have 3 notes of 7-5-10 on the A and a bunch of muted low E chugs in between, and then some random ass power chords and pull-offs for the tail, and that repeats like 4 times at the start of the song and it sounds great!

  • @attomxg
    @attomxg Рік тому +6

    3:22 Locust-Machine Head

    • @rigbog7714
      @rigbog7714 11 місяців тому +1

      glad someone else heard it 😭

    • @attomxg
      @attomxg 11 місяців тому

      @@rigbog7714 i thought i was trippin tho😂

  • @Hotelsonfire
    @Hotelsonfire Рік тому +2

    0:57 “Funda-metal-ly”.

  • @jeremystone4139
    @jeremystone4139 Рік тому +4

    Sick riff straight outta the gate, well done sir.

  • @TheBanana93
    @TheBanana93 Рік тому +4

    What I find the hardest is syncing a riff with the kick drum... like yeah not all parts have to be the same but a breakdown is a mind fuck to me programming the drums lol

  • @toshineon
    @toshineon Рік тому

    For as many videos on this topic that I've watched, this is the one that really made the pieces fall in to place.

  • @lovemetalmike
    @lovemetalmike Рік тому +1

    Id like some advice on how to make D.I. guitar and digital drums sound better. What plugins, how to use them, maybe some cheap and expensive options.

  • @zanbillian
    @zanbillian Рік тому +1

    I love that guitar tone 3:44

  • @janvasicek8843
    @janvasicek8843 Рік тому +1

    Drop C, chugs, 578, power chords, crazy drums. Okay, time to do some 2000s metalcore

  • @MattRhodes_Music
    @MattRhodes_Music Рік тому +1

    Now do a follow-up, using riffs to make a song structure

  • @gh0stdem0n666
    @gh0stdem0n666 Рік тому +19

    ok now how do i write or program heavy metal drums(full lesson)?

  • @mediumvillain
    @mediumvillain 10 місяців тому +1

    "Way back in the day" *5 years ago*

  • @drewharrito5705
    @drewharrito5705 Рік тому

    Sweet video man. Can’t wait to see you hit a mil scriber count. 🎉

  • @yoshitv9939
    @yoshitv9939 3 місяці тому +3

    1:06 my boy just became Drachenlord

  • @Kausemus
    @Kausemus Рік тому +1

    Started laughing at 5:37. Yeah! It actually kinda rips.

  • @Goober_39
    @Goober_39 Рік тому +1

    “Sounds like mush” he says after sounding like he was about to bust out the Doom ost

  • @gustavohp3439
    @gustavohp3439 Рік тому +1

    1:31 that tone was fucking delicious jeez...

  • @ThorsShadow
    @ThorsShadow Рік тому +1

    "Nik playing in Standard tuning isn't real. He can't hurt you."
    Nik playing in Standard tuning:

  • @joshhinz7566
    @joshhinz7566 Рік тому +3

    You should do more videos like this!

  • @user-ph2my9sk8v
    @user-ph2my9sk8v Рік тому

    What are you plugged into sounds awesome....playing again after 10 years... drop D was the shit now C love it keep it up....

  • @plandc5
    @plandc5 5 місяців тому

    Your explanations absolutely crack me up 😂😂😂 yet you exsplain it so well 😂😂😂

  • @ProtobluesDG
    @ProtobluesDG Рік тому +5

    The bass part is like the complete opposite of what Rob Scallon just said in his recent video......... I'm so conflicted!!!! I need an adult!

  • @Ryush806
    @Ryush806 Рік тому

    Lulz loved the Siccas guitars plug. I’m a classical player so I watch most all of their stuff.

  • @LimgraveFootSoldier
    @LimgraveFootSoldier Рік тому +2

    Ironically, the riff developed into Machine Head's Locust. LMAO

  • @socksrfootjail7257
    @socksrfootjail7257 Рік тому +2

    Good video 🤘 definitely gonna use these tips.

  • @materedai4158
    @materedai4158 Рік тому

    Bro started to write the new Amon Amarth song then went corekid

  • @merry8647
    @merry8647 Рік тому

    Some of these things are genuinely good advice even though it sounds like it shouldn't be. Yeah, experimenting with random flourishes can make any simple melody sound amazing

  • @just.icesjj
    @just.icesjj Рік тому

    any content put out my Nik is fire. should definitely do more edumacational vids😌

  • @DBIIIStudios
    @DBIIIStudios 7 місяців тому +4

    If you don’t say out loud “we do fun metal things here” at the same time as Nik, you’re not real. Like birds.

    • @sammy-whirl8500
      @sammy-whirl8500 6 місяців тому

      I want to hate nik because he's popular, but I do dig his guitar chops

  • @foushizzle
    @foushizzle Рік тому

    4:42 ayo make smth out of that plz that is sick

  • @michaeldavids7914
    @michaeldavids7914 Рік тому +3

    looks like my man nik’s been getting some sun!

  • @eddierabinovich779
    @eddierabinovich779 Рік тому +1

    Hey Nik, it'd be cool if you could do an updated video about the drum plugins you use and perhaps some of the presets / changes you make to get a great drum sound like in the songs of Termina!

  • @origiinss6622
    @origiinss6622 Рік тому +2

    Man the riff in standard tuning at 4:45 is just FUCKING SICK

  • @davesmith7671
    @davesmith7671 Рік тому

    Actually was the most helpful video I've seen for so long

  • @darkphoenix2
    @darkphoenix2 Рік тому

    Anyone else hearing Jinjer in that riff he plays at the start? Cloud Factory starts almost the same way, it just sounds like he played it from the top of his head and didn't remember it perfectly

  • @davidchazanas5096
    @davidchazanas5096 Рік тому

    Chromatic notes "as long as you hit them with confidence, it works" awesome words

  • @TwinPhoenix666
    @TwinPhoenix666 Рік тому

    Love ur channel, Nik

  • @metalhead.21_edgecaster
    @metalhead.21_edgecaster 7 місяців тому

    Haha nice one Nik, you mentioned Tails, I really love that character

  • @pizdecXD31
    @pizdecXD31 Рік тому

    4:45 huuuuuge a month ago there was a clip from twitch with this riff, since then I have been waiting for the full version

  • @nickrispoli2532
    @nickrispoli2532 Рік тому

    I got much smartyer after watching, im gonna go procrastinate writing riffs now

  • @multisafttv
    @multisafttv Рік тому

    Secret sauce: in my head: drums
    Nik: bass
    Visible confusion

  • @salvagedmetal
    @salvagedmetal Рік тому +1

    "Its just random bullshit, It doesn't matter"

  • @Xynic.7391
    @Xynic.7391 Рік тому

    Drop C and good drums is literally all you need, couldn't have said it better myself

  • @FairyCRat
    @FairyCRat Рік тому +1

    Nik: there's one secret sauce that I haven't mentioned, and it's not guitar, it's BASS
    Rob Scallon: YES!
    Nik: jk it's drums
    Rob: ...oh.

  • @coreysmith9847
    @coreysmith9847 Рік тому +1

    This just might be the greatest tutorial EVER!

  • @KikoKay-Kay
    @KikoKay-Kay Рік тому +1

    The more im picking up about the metal. The more it becomes clear. Its the drums man. Its always the drums that are cool xd.

  • @stikdik
    @stikdik Рік тому

    Great video! Really good info in here

  • @jameskoren1266
    @jameskoren1266 Рік тому +1

    We need a tutorial on programming drums baaaaad. No drummers of the core exist where I live sooooo.

  • @ADayinWhite
    @ADayinWhite Рік тому +6

    Moreso speaking to general music composition rather than just writing riffs, but in addition to modern rock and metal, I also listen to a bunch of J-rock and especially J-pop. Though I can't play 95% of it, it's definitely given me a lot of perspective on my music.
    For example, I still use bass as support for my guitars when I really want to make a section hit HARD, but I also make sure to give it room to do its own thing and even play the main melody sometimes. Also, I've discovered how to pull back with heavily distorted guitars and use them as an element of the song to either fill space or add ambience as opposed to be one of the main players (alongside vocals).

  • @RogueAssassin4
    @RogueAssassin4 Рік тому +4

    I'd kill for a full version of the Dad Rock one lol

  • @MrNickRowe
    @MrNickRowe Рік тому +4

    Now need a video on drum programming lol

  • @Slipwidow
    @Slipwidow Рік тому +1

    2:51 stone sour Inhale

  • @KRayxKodessA
    @KRayxKodessA Рік тому

    this was... shockingly insightful. Thanks, Nik.

  • @guitarclinicyt9276
    @guitarclinicyt9276 Рік тому +2

    Can you finish the technical riff? It sounds so good

  • @Casey_8484
    @Casey_8484 7 місяців тому

    Wow thx nik this just unlocked tons of stuff for me

  • @Mason_Stinky
    @Mason_Stinky Рік тому

    6:47 bro really thought he could sneak digital veil into this without us knowing

  • @Ravenstorm163
    @Ravenstorm163 Рік тому

    Whole lotta love is the riff because you always move your head listening to it everytime

  • @ogincubus7140
    @ogincubus7140 Рік тому

    For a moment I was like", wdf why am I not subscribed? "

  • @zevenliefda1310
    @zevenliefda1310 10 місяців тому

    Bro you giving away all the good stuff for sure

  • @lrblake394
    @lrblake394 Рік тому

    'It's just random bullshit it doesn't matter'. Nihilist metal, thanks Nik.

  • @420crim3
    @420crim3 Рік тому

    4:45 epic As I Lay Dying levels of melody