Pokémon: HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions (DS) Retrospective | A New Gold Standard

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  • @jenisia3600
    @jenisia3600 Рік тому +18

    Passing by once more to remind anyone reading, this is the best HG/SS retrospective.

  • @LadiesLoveLuis9
    @LadiesLoveLuis9 2 роки тому +204

    You should do this for every gen and milk all of us pokéfans bc we absolutely love this shit

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +33

      hahaha well I'l be starting again om the next one soon

    • @TomCat2563
      @TomCat2563 3 місяці тому

      I loved Pokemon Gold and Pokemon Crystal.. I really loved Pokemon HeartGold and Pokemon SoulSilver.

  • @wallyallen7169
    @wallyallen7169 2 роки тому +54

    This video deserves way more views. Thank you so much for the effort man, I really appreciate these long ass Pokemon videos and am glad I found yours

  • @CopingContinuous
    @CopingContinuous Місяць тому +2

    Only 33min in and I’m already convinced I need to finally try HGSS , as silver was my first and forever favorite

    • @pixablu
      @pixablu Місяць тому +1

      you should!

    • @cameronmoore2713
      @cameronmoore2713 Місяць тому +2

      Omg hgss are just like gsc but better graphics and movepools. They're my favorite. Try them.

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville 2 роки тому +20

    HGSS was really nice to Typhlosion line. You can give it Coal and with Blaze and the TM38 you can buy at Goldenrod you can 1HKO Whitney's nerfed Miltank... its insane.
    Totodile still has it nice. Physical Ice Fang, Bite, Crunch and Waterfall really gives it an age in this game over the other starters. And you still can use Surf midgame which is insane.
    Stone Edge is equal to EQ in power.
    Damp may be useful on Quagsire if you want to shiny hunt those Electrode's you have to defeat. You can always escape and reencounter in the hopes its shiny.
    I got a shiny Golbat in my HG run and I bought a SS recently with the owner having a bunch of shinies... but I don't think they are legally obtained. But I keep them regardless since there are some nice ones like shiny Moltres which looks nice.
    I find it odd gambling is removed in games but micro transaction in modern games are fine.
    Arcanine may be pretty good in HG. Depending how long you want to wait to evolve it, you can teach it some really good physical moves. Flamewheel and Crunch are nice and Flare Blitz hits like a truck. If you just running for fun, Arcanine has a pretty impressive Special Attack for what is known a Special Attacker. A good target to teach Fire Blast and Overheat while using Thunderfang (if you have heartscales) and ExtremeSpeed. Personally I think its far more useful than Ninetails as both offensive stats are higher. And Ninetails only beats it in speed and maybe in 1 defensive stat. Arcanine has higher BST too.
    I consider in competitive Glaceon worse than Flareon. Flareon may not be able to use its best stat but it still have good special bulk, good resistances and lavaplume from a good special attack for Generation 4 standards. Glaceon has an awful movepool and has no defensive niche because of its typing. And its slow. The only advantage you get is baiting opponents to use a special move so you can mirrorcoat them. Coverage is limited to stuff like Water Pulse and Hidden Power at which point you really should use Vaporeon. Even if it were in the game, the moment you can get Vaporeon it is completely outclassed.
    Entei is very disappointing. It's annoying that its best moves are event exclusive so you have to use Calm Mind set to get the best out of the one you can catch and use in competitve. Maybe its good in speedruns like in GS.
    Btw, Abilities like Huge Power don't double Base Stats but the actual Raw Stats after applying EVs and IVs into it. So Azumarill will hit way harder than you would expect.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah Totodile's line got it nicest bt far. Really loves those Physical options.
      You're right on Stone Edge. Misremembered it as 120BP.
      Damp has its uses, its just very, very situational.
      Arcanine ain't terrible. Certainly high end for Physical Fire, especially with Espeed, but the physical fire move pool is to this day pretty slim. It can do well in Mixed Roles too, but it's not mindblowong or anything. I have a softspot for Ninetales largely
      Glaceon is fairly weak but as far as Ice types go its pretty alright, Ice in general is bad, meanwhile there's a few dozen fires that shit on Flareon.
      Also yea, I was also wrong about Swift Swim/Huge Power etc, knew they were good but clearly better than I thought.

  • @recycledMilk
    @recycledMilk 3 місяці тому +2

    i know its been two years but i stumbled across this and thanks to your hint at the start, went and watched the G/S/C video first! i really loved these!
    thank you so much!
    guess i know whos game reviews im binging for the next few days

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  3 місяці тому +1

      @@recycledMilk RBY, FRLG, LGPE, RSE, and ORAS have also been done :) DPP is im production but it'll be a lomg production cycle but Colosseum should be out soonish :)

  • @HarambetheWhite
    @HarambetheWhite 7 місяців тому +2

    The best remake ever.

  • @simplycheezy187
    @simplycheezy187 Рік тому +2

    I just got heartgold for the first time in a while so I'm excited to listen to this along side my new playingthrough!

  • @ntmaproductions
    @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +6

    Rock Climb and Route 38 (Burmy Line) (2:29:39)
    National Park (Cherubi Line) (2:31:15)
    Cherrygrove (Taillow Line) (2:31:52)
    Cerulean Cave (Mewtwo) (2:32:11)
    Route 28 (Sneasel Line) (2:32:56)
    Mt. Silver and Red (Moltres) (2:33:39)
    Pallet Town and My Teams (Bulbasaur, Charmander, and Squirtle Lines) (2:35:20)
    Silph Co. (Treecko, Torchic, and Mudkip Lines) (2:37:30)
    Embedded Tower and One-Offs (Kyogre, Groudon, and Rayquaza) (2:39:08)
    Gen 1 + 2 Event (Mew and Celebi) (2:42:10)
    Generation 3 Transfer and Event (Skitty, Carvanha, Wailmer, Feebas, Castform, Kecleon, Tropius, Snorunt, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Jirachi, and Deoxys Lines) (2:42:40)
    Gen 4 Transfer and Event (Turtwig, Chimchar, Piplup, Cranidos, Shieldon, Shellos, Drifloon, Glameow, Stunky, Spiritomb, Finneon, Snover, Rotom, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Heatran, Regigigas, Cresselia, Manaphy, Phione, Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus Lines) (2:51:48)
    Adventures/Special: HeartGold and SoulSilver Chapter (3:05:42)
    Conclusion (3:06:56)
    Link to part one (Gold/Silver/Crystal): ua-cam.com/video/fnG01Qn6PkY/v-deo.html

  • @rajkoavlijas6298
    @rajkoavlijas6298 Рік тому +1

    I gotta say I've been playing this game or versions of it for about a decade now. Your video got me to actually get into and love Voltorb Flip. It's so awesome.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  Рік тому +1

      HAHAHA. I love this. The first steps are prrtty hard, it's intimidating from a glance but it's fun as hell.

  • @Yallnotready4MADDOG
    @Yallnotready4MADDOG 2 роки тому +21

    I’ve been looking for a long retrospective/review of my favorite game I’m excited to watch it!!!

  • @rosadiamonds2204
    @rosadiamonds2204 2 роки тому +7

    Damn this has so much production value for how little it has been seen. Great video tho!

  • @gfditto3390
    @gfditto3390 Рік тому

    Absolutely amazing video. Super informative, while being entertaining at the same time.

  • @gabrielgrimes8297
    @gabrielgrimes8297 2 роки тому

    Great video! Your narration and way you laid out information was very engaging. This definitely helped make working in a office, more barrable.

  • @TheWazzoGames
    @TheWazzoGames 2 роки тому +2

    Man, the love that these games can bring out in poke fans. This is a full length movie that im gonna LOVE going through on my lunch breaks.

  • @Agro_IRL
    @Agro_IRL 2 роки тому

    Thanks for covering these games and going through all this work even for the Pokemon that aren't obtainable in game without trade. Soul Silver was my first ever pokemon game and even I never knew about half the stuff in the safari zone so it was cool to learn about all of those frustrating but interesting gimmicks. Looking forward to seeing more vids from you :)

  • @bretwentzel8824
    @bretwentzel8824 2 місяці тому

    Excited for this one, just now starting !

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 місяці тому

      @@bretwentzel8824 I'm sorry in advance for the mic quality I have learned a lot recently

  • @fortunaa_
    @fortunaa_ 2 роки тому

    sat down and watched both parts of this while i was playing through heartgold, deserves more attention fr great videos man

  • @Skywalkerthegreat
    @Skywalkerthegreat 2 роки тому +1

    Soul silver will always be one of my favorite games of all time.

  • @KBXband
    @KBXband 6 місяців тому +1

    Gyarados is a staple of every team I build in every single game. I never use another water type unless Gyarados is unavailable.

  • @taylorswan8587
    @taylorswan8587 Рік тому +4

    I can’t believe this video hasn’t blown up. I’m back for like the fourth time in the last year, one of the best long form Pokémon videos to just have on and vibe to

  • @bobbyby3579
    @bobbyby3579 2 роки тому +1

    to be honest I could listen to a video that describes all the Pokemon in each generation. it was fun just listening to you to describe how they are in this game

  • @braytonbeer9774
    @braytonbeer9774 2 роки тому +1

    You really put in a lot of work for theese super long and super in depth videos. I love the content man. I'm honestly surprised you don't have more subs

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      Lmao, thank you. I'm plugging away at the sequel... er, prequel, so that's exciting.

  • @TotallyAtopiaYT
    @TotallyAtopiaYT 4 місяці тому

    Great video again man! Took me a few days to finish but I really like these kind of videos made me realize once again why HG/SS are so loved games truly fantastic games!
    Hopefully you gonna tackle spin offs in the future as well
    I also really enjoy the fact you are talking about the manga more people need to try it out

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  4 місяці тому

      Colosseum is in the near future :p I have a playlist of all the Pokemon stuff so far and I've touched on a few samller spinoffs as well like Snap and TCG on the Gameboy!

  • @InternalOptimal
    @InternalOptimal 2 роки тому

    Gosh darn. Good videos. I wanted some Pokemon retrospective as a background vid and it ended up being the main activoty for 3 hours. Liked, commented and subscribed.

  • @eduardovicente8095
    @eduardovicente8095 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for this video years later and I’m listening at my boring ass job and it’s making my morning more bearable 🙏🏻

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  9 місяців тому

      People seem to like to do that haha we get that one a lot. Appreciate the listen and we are glad you enjoyed it, probably the hardest video type to make these Pokemon ones!!

  • @IzzyItachi
    @IzzyItachi 2 роки тому +3

    This video was definitely worth the time and effort it took to make. Great job.

  • @td370
    @td370 2 роки тому +2

    I love gen 2 and HGSS so much even if it has obvious issues

  • @aster4jaden
    @aster4jaden 2 місяці тому

    My favourite Pokemon Remake from the return of the Bug Catching, Swarms, Night and Day Cycle and Trainer Phone Calls, the inclusion of Pokemon Crystal Content, the adding of the Battle Frontier, Pokeathlon, Safari Park and Walking Pokemon with some expansion on Lore, as well as the inclusion of Pokemon from Gen 3 and 4, this Game had everything.
    For me it was perfection, it was so perfect years later I rebought SoulSilver and still have it. I also hold hope we'll get a Switch (or the next Console) Version in the future.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 місяці тому

      @@aster4jaden I would love to see these games pulled forward, they are... basically perfect lmao

  • @jenisia3600
    @jenisia3600 Рік тому

    Great vid, this is like a audio strategy guide.

  • @peterrealar2.067
    @peterrealar2.067 2 роки тому +2

    BEST. POKEMON. REMAKE. EVER. No contest.

  • @whiskeysour1179
    @whiskeysour1179 5 місяців тому

    I enjoyed this video, along with your various other Pokemon deep dives.
    Have to say, I was a little surprised that with all this detail you didn't talk about gym leader rematches at the dojo. It's probably just my skewed perspective that makes them so obvious a talking point, I spammed them like crazy to complete a nuzlocke of SS. But they are a fun addition to the game, and repeat endlessly for good XP. You even have little cutscenes when you get their numbers for your pokegear.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  5 місяців тому +1

      I had thrm in an earlier version but cut the segment to manage the length of the video some, same for the E4 rematches. Regret doin it but I didn't wanna comoletely lose people 😭🤣

  • @TheCakeling
    @TheCakeling 2 роки тому +8

    This video is awesome and I wanna give you a lot of props!
    Just a point I want to clear up. Abilities like pure power, swift swim, Chlorophyll, etc all double the actual stat of the Pokémon and not the base stat. So while Medicham may have 60 base attack, at lvl 100 it is effectively a base 170 attack stat based on how the math works. So Medicham is actually quite good in story play through because it hits like a truck!

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      Yeah for sure, Medicham is a lot of fun casually. Also kinda forgot that those abilities worked that way so thanks for the clarification, things get lost in soemthing this dense lmao.

  • @sagoruzemo9557
    @sagoruzemo9557 2 роки тому +1

    "soundproof is funny but to situational"
    Gen 3 baton pass meta would like a word

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +2

      lmao okay, roar heavy metas it's gonna be pretty good, but largely it's format dependant and in-game virtually useless unless you're terrified of early route mammals growling

  • @greeve234
    @greeve234 2 роки тому +2

    great vid had to sub keep up the good work

  • @petertilton7004
    @petertilton7004 11 місяців тому

    Not to mention a few gym leaders went on a shopping spree for new outfits. Sabrina got a major glow-up now sporting a more casual outfit, new hairstyle and wristbands that glow whenever she uses her psychic powers.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  11 місяців тому +1

      True, everyone out here lookin snazzy, especially Morty

  • @EWOODJ
    @EWOODJ 8 місяців тому +1

    I’m sure you already know this, but depending on your actions, you can encounter Suicune before Misty. Which happened on my first playthrough.

  • @iamresh
    @iamresh 2 роки тому +3

    really enjoying this video. however, I did notice something mid-watch that I felt would be interesting to clear up. it's a bit of a misinterpretation with huge power. it doesn't double the base stat. it doubles the current attack stat. for example, lets take a level 50 azumarill and assume it has no attack evs with 31 ivs and a neutral nature. 70 attack. if it was double the base stat, it would end up with 120 attack with base 100 atk rather than 50. however, with huge power, it'd have 140 attack making it the same as base 120 attack. it gets even crazier if you have max attack evs with +atk nature (244 attack which would be base 152 attack) and is probably even more insane at level 100, but that's kinda irrelevant for ingame where evs are basically randomly put later on in a run. still definitely right about it being inferior to gyarados (to be fair, gyara is arguably one of the best ingame mons of all time due to intimidate, dragon dance, solid defensive typing, solid defensive and offensive stats, and great coverage with physical ice, water, and eq). I just thought it would be fun to clear up a misconception on huge power

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      You right, that math alsocapplies to other things like Swift Swim that double a stat.

  • @PeterParker-ff7ub
    @PeterParker-ff7ub 2 роки тому +2

    Everyone says Whitney is easy but you still have to fight her Clefairy who constantly puts Pokemon to sleep then uses metronome then her Miltank who keep stomping which can make your Pokemon flinch and milk drink to fully heal. Even a fighting Pokemon can struggle against that.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      true but it's still fairly overblown id you know what's coming. bad luck and a lack of female pokemon can be harsh but she's not some unending wall

    • @PeterParker-ff7ub
      @PeterParker-ff7ub 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions I'm not saying that. She makes most of my Pokémon sleep and flinch so no damage to her pokemon.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      @@PeterParker-ff7ub Yeah, it can be a touch rough.

  • @gabrieldevoogel6225
    @gabrieldevoogel6225 2 роки тому +1

    Second Pokémon game I ever played after Platinum

  • @DarthAnimal
    @DarthAnimal 2 роки тому +4

    2:54:28 Johto is to the West of Sinnoh, therefore all Shellos are West Sea. This is the same for Hoenn, two Japan based regions. Alola is Hawaii, and to the East of Japan and therefore Sinnoh, and so all Shellos are East Sea. Galar is England, and was chosen to be East of Sinnoh, so all Shellos are East Sea

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      I know, but even if they hatch in Kanto they hatch West, regardless of parent- East Shellos breed into West Shellos in HGSS for some reason

  • @BigSebi
    @BigSebi 2 роки тому +1

    This was amazing. Thank you

  • @camtf24
    @camtf24 2 роки тому +1

    these videos are amazing!

  • @benjaminpeters6729
    @benjaminpeters6729 2 роки тому +2

    I would note that insomnia noctowl can basically end mortys team. Just have to avoid sucker punch

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      solid strat

    • @benjaminpeters6729
      @benjaminpeters6729 2 роки тому

      I also found a nice combo with arcanine sunny day and chlorophyll eggecutor. You get a huge speed boost and no charge solar beam for four turns. Plus stab psychic can help you sweep

  • @judyclark9900
    @judyclark9900 10 місяців тому +1

    I hope they can make this game on 2024❤

  • @ThatRandomFastingGuy
    @ThatRandomFastingGuy 2 роки тому

    3 hours of my life well spent.

  • @ScubaLuigi
    @ScubaLuigi 2 роки тому +1

    Sneaky Pebbles is the best move name

  • @eclipsedbadger
    @eclipsedbadger 6 місяців тому +1

    1:04:30 my HG gameplay DEPENDED on Girafarig so badly, I won't stand for the slander on my weird okapi looking fella 😤
    Is it bad? Sure! But when none of my party could get a grip and actually do something in battle, Girafarig just Stomped everyone she came across without a care. Gave a good battle to Ho-oh so I could capture it lol
    It really depends on how you use Girafarig, really...use it as a normal stomper with some psychic and its a good guy to help in battles while trying to heal the others too... 😅
    I lost my game but my Girafarig, Matcha, was absolutely the best. ❤

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  6 місяців тому

      Hey, when I made this I never realized that we were around the vorner from Girafarig ruining LC

  • @JoeyP946
    @JoeyP946 3 місяці тому

    after 60 hours of gameplay and clicking this video I finally learned, I can change the fking text speed?!
    god the time I could have saved

  • @hankiichii3945
    @hankiichii3945 2 роки тому

    The Video itself worth a subscribe :)

  • @phatnana2379
    @phatnana2379 8 місяців тому +2

    Poor Ledian... Such a GREAT design but useless Pokemon. With a REAL stat-spread, it could have been such a great Big/Fighting type with Iron Fist and access to the elemental punches, Mach Punch, Drain Punch, U-Turn, and Knock Off!!

  • @timmyhaupt2968
    @timmyhaupt2968 8 місяців тому

    Definitely the trainer card! No honestly Gyarados holo first edition was the first Pokemon card id ever seen and it's what got me into TCG back in 1998 but I've never gotten a decent pull. Love both the video game and TCG though😊

  • @BansheeNT-D
    @BansheeNT-D 2 роки тому +1

    I wish they made these remakes for the 5th Gen.

    • @The5thC
      @The5thC 2 роки тому

      At least there's roms that add 5th gen

  • @traiges414
    @traiges414 Рік тому +1

    I hear your videos every single night to sleep - I fall asleep to HGSS and wake up to GSC. Are you planing on covering any more games in the future? I'd really love to get more of these - there are not many Pokémon video essays that are on your level so thank you for doing these

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  Рік тому +1

      I have produced videos on RBY, FRLG, and LGPE as well! The RSE video is in full production and will arrive soon! There's a playlist on the channel :)

    • @traiges414
      @traiges414 Рік тому

      @@ntmaproductions I have them all on my Playlist and really enjoyed every single one. I am looking forward to it - Thank you again :D

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  Рік тому

      @@traiges414 I'm slowly wprking on voiceover for RSE so expect rhat fairly soon :) ORAS is a ways off but also im production. I also have a Colosseum video partially produced that will release when I'm less busy :)

    • @jenisia3600
      @jenisia3600 Рік тому

      @@ntmaproductions looking forward to the RSE and Col vids

    • @jenisia3600
      @jenisia3600 Рік тому

      Same here man, is like listening to a audio strategy guide.

  • @lsixty30
    @lsixty30 3 місяці тому

    Of course I’m biased but these remakes really feel like the cherry on top of the classic Pokemon games. You could argue gen 3 was where the series changed too much, but I feel that gens 3 and 4 are like Dragon Ball Z if gens 1 and 2 are like Dragon Ball, if that makes sense. I tried getting into gen 5 but for me the gba/ds lite style sprites are far more charming than the technically graphically superior later games.

  • @MyFaithfulSword
    @MyFaithfulSword Рік тому

    Idk why you harped on yourself for your coverage in this video. It’s solid and I watched the whole thing. Lol. I’ll probably watch it again tonight to fall asleep Lolol. No offense.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  Рік тому

      lmao well, we're all our own harshest critics. glad you enjoyed it

  • @celowein
    @celowein 2 місяці тому

    Magnezone truthers unite!! WHAT is Kanto's power plant HIDING from us?!?!

  • @chonchjohnch
    @chonchjohnch 2 роки тому +1

    As a feraligatr enthusiast, the best move set is:
    Earthquake
    Aqua tail
    Ice fang
    Crunch
    Superpower can help too but it’s kind of a shit move, I wish they’d given it close combat instead

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      God bless when Feraligatr gets Sheer Force later and can really go ham with Physical stuff

  • @TallTapper
    @TallTapper 2 роки тому

    it's truly a game

  • @jenisia3600
    @jenisia3600 11 місяців тому +2

    I know that you're busy, but have u ever thought about making a retrospective of the Spaceworld Demo 97 (i know they're plenty vids in YT about it, but they're kinda cringe 😂)?

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  11 місяців тому +1

      Lol maybe. I'm friends with some of the people who made reforged, but I'm not sure when I'l get to it

  • @wingzero2348
    @wingzero2348 Рік тому

    I thought Crystal was perfect but HGHS is the gold standard. Nothing since has been quite the same.

  • @AlastairGames
    @AlastairGames Рік тому

    thanks this has been wonderful to have all this documented in video!
    I didn't try the safari zone.
    Would you have enjoyed Safari more if it was just like a regular area with normal battles?

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  Рік тому +1

      Probably. The Safari Zone is kinda a mess in general because of the gimmick. Pokémon usually has se decent strategy when it comes to catching and battling, with ball choice, ways to spread status and safely reduce health. When you strip all that back it kinda just devolves into tedium. The dozen odd weeks requirement and frankly bafflingly obtuse item requirement stuff I also just too much to figure out, honestly. I don't think the safari could ever be fully done without it. If it was one issue or the other it might be alright but it's kinda a worst of both worlds, although I've admittedly never liked thr Safari in any incarnation

    • @AlastairGames
      @AlastairGames Рік тому

      @@ntmaproductions thanks, appreciate you sharing that.

  • @jj11725
    @jj11725 2 роки тому

    Great video!!

  • @TheTripleAce3
    @TheTripleAce3 2 роки тому

    Found this as I get within 30 mons of completing the national dex in the soulsilver save I've had since release day. Great stuff, top tier production value.
    One critique I have is that some information you mention (delcatty's line ability of normalize as an example) wasn't a thing in gen 4, but it's a small and incredibly niche error, so it doesn't matter in the long run.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      yea i made a few errors throughout, i troed my best to disinclude the later gen abilities but sometimes I'd have a little momebt lmao

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      yea i made a few errors throughout, i troed my best to disinclude the later gen abilities but sometimes I'd have a little momebt lmao

    • @TheTripleAce3
      @TheTripleAce3 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions It's still by far the most comprehensive review of the games that I've seen. The only real thing i would add (which would be impossible in this case as you mentioned) is the pokewalker. There isn't that much material out there on it, much less anything nearly on the scale of this.
      I could definitely binge a bunch of these for other games like DPPt or RSE/FRLG, and you could reference the guides in these videos for future projects.
      Hope your next projects go as well as this one seems to.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      @@TheTripleAce3 lmao, well the next one is coming sooner or later, but it'll be a while. i'll hopefully make less errors, but all the wiki paged in the world don't fix stupid

    • @TheTripleAce3
      @TheTripleAce3 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions I don't think anyone could blame you for taking a long break after this project. If you don't mind me asking, how long did it take to write out play and edit?
      The lead time on it had to be at least half a year.

  • @SkydrawnIV
    @SkydrawnIV 8 місяців тому

    Jumpluff is a mainstay on my Johto-only team, very underrated!
    Also, the *biggest* fumble of these remakes is omitting Kris and putting in Lyra.
    Kris's design and colourscheme was so cool, while Lyra is just boring.

  • @graylyhen9490
    @graylyhen9490 2 роки тому +1

    Volt/Water Absorb heal 1/4 of your max HP, Zapdos doesn't learn Hurricane in Gen 4 because it doesn't exist yet and it doesn't even learn Air Slash, and Milotic doesn't have Competitive in Gen 4 because that doesn't exist til 6. I think there were a handful of other mistakes but I can't remember them. Proofread a bit more on abilities

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      Yup, things happen, big video, little mistakes. Thanks for pointing them out

    • @DaShinyDragonMon
      @DaShinyDragonMon 2 роки тому +3

      That last sentence turned this from helpful to kinda douchey

    • @graylyhen9490
      @graylyhen9490 2 роки тому

      @@DaShinyDragonMon sneed

  • @chonchjohnch
    @chonchjohnch 2 роки тому +1

    Politoed is a gen 2 mon though, and you forgot scizor
    That aside, great vid and subbed

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      I'm not sure what you're referring to unfortunately

    • @chonchjohnch
      @chonchjohnch 2 роки тому +1

      @@ntmaproductions you were talking about trade evolutions

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      @@chonchjohnch oops, yea there's def minor errors, nice catch

    • @chonchjohnch
      @chonchjohnch 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions nothing major :) it was a great vid either way

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      @@chonchjohnch thank you!!!

  • @kevinvest9693
    @kevinvest9693 Рік тому

    Crobat is super good!

  • @Y0sh1no5am
    @Y0sh1no5am 10 місяців тому

    I pity Ledian coz it looks like a super hero like that Ladybug girl. It should had some cool fighting moves and Bug buzz and U-turn to make a surprise attack and switch to an ally.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  10 місяців тому +1

      he's a lil kamen rider which is why it gets a few ounching moves, too bad about the type... and the uh stats, and most of the movepool

    • @Y0sh1no5am
      @Y0sh1no5am 10 місяців тому

      @@ntmaproductions I think pokemon like that needs a third evolution coz an evolved pokemon should mean its more powerful than the last form. Basic Digimon logic. It should like be the counter part of that Orbeetle. As Ledian the hero and Orbeetle is the villain. And Orbeetle gets 3 evolutions. Feel like Ledian's evolution would be the hero to defeat the mad scientist.

  • @GrantTheHierophant
    @GrantTheHierophant 2 роки тому +2

    Now review Crystal Clear, the mod.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +4

      i believe you mean SHOCKSLAYER PRESENTS crystal clear SHOCKSLAYER.COM

  • @FrenchieBlack07045
    @FrenchieBlack07045 3 місяці тому

    Bring back the 3DS severs

  • @PeterParker-ff7ub
    @PeterParker-ff7ub 2 роки тому

    Everyone loves abilities but they dont like any specific ones.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      I have some abilities I love, Swift Swim, Intimidate, Solar Power, etc. ones that have unique twists that can be built around

  • @M3rtyville
    @M3rtyville 2 роки тому

    Rihorns final evolution really looks ugly. Gen 4 went a little overboard with evolution and I wish the Beta Designs were kept for those who had one. Weavile is my favorite tho. And it was advertised a lot with the animators knowing people will like it just as much as Munchlax. But I do like Tangrowth's design.
    Kingdra is very neat now that it can abuse its 95 base physical attack too. But Outrage is likely not as accessable. Maybe it can go for some mixed rain strats while worn down from Draco Meteor.
    I agree with you regarding the game pushing the legendary Pokemon encounter. If it were optional like in the old games, they would feel more special. But I am glad they got their own soundtrack if anything.
    Kinda weird that HGSS focused so much on new gen evolutions to be accessable but Silver never evolves his Sneasel. I would have hoped he would do that considering even Blue changed his team in the FRLG remakes in the postgame. Guess having a post post game would feel even more weird for the developers.
    Similary Red replaces his only Johto Pokemon which was an evolution of a Kanto Pokemon for another Kanto Pokemon Lapras. Probably because of it hailing in the top of the mountain crippling his team for the most part. I just don't like how the game focused on exploring and trying to uncover completely new Pokemon ends up regressing Red's team for Kanto representation sake. He is on Mt Silver which has bunch of undiscovered Pokemon. And he doesn't bother to use any of them.
    Surprised Porygon doesn't get split evolution considering it can be affected by Discs.
    I love how you embrace the KANTOOOOO meme with Charmander. Maybe we can see some RBY and FRLG content?
    Can't imagine how you would handle Gen 7 once you talk about it if you do. Maybe the video will be twice as long as this one.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      Rhyperior is cool in an ugly way. I think se of them are a bit weaker, but largely not so bad.
      Kingdra gets real nasty in rain in gen 5. Really strong typing and great when wet.
      New music anttime is appreciated, but I really don't see why you need to get Lugia or Ho-oh, it's reallly awkward and pace breaking especially if you'd rather not.
      Silver's Sneasel is a bit odd. You'd think thebIndigo Plateau rematch would have one, but we got leader rematch teams so I'm fine with it. Red is cool by me too, the hail thing adds a layer to it, even if I would've loved to see Espeon come back, and the Mt. Silver redesign is great.
      I got a poll on the community tab for more Pokemon. Gen 1 and 5 are heated togehter but 1 does seem to be edging out. We'll see.

  • @kevinfrench9720
    @kevinfrench9720 2 роки тому

    >NTMA
    I see what you did there

  • @SenorPuffball
    @SenorPuffball 19 днів тому

    Really great series you have going on here. HGSS kicks ass in a lot of ways but I almost forgot how the series’s visuals mostly peaked here and arguably in 5th Gen (which has some higher highs but lower lows imo) I stopped playing new entries after USUM and while the 3ds entries look decent it’s really a shame how hideous most of the switch titles look based on the footage I’ve seen of them.
    Pokémon was never a graphical powerhouse but for all their visual shortcomings the games have always been really nice and easy on the eyes. Just can’t wrap my head around the games being developed for increasingly more powerful hardware and somehow looking worse than they did 14 years ago.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  19 днів тому

      @@SenorPuffball TPCI has strict deadlines that are immovably tied to anime and merch (card) releases which makes everything a rush job. Rushed 2D is less work than rushed 3D.

    • @SenorPuffball
      @SenorPuffball 19 днів тому

      @ I sympathize with the devs for sure on that front but it is still disappointing for what’s supposed to be one of Nintendo’s marquee franchises. It’s not really something I dwell on though. Voted with my wallet and didn’t bother with any of the switch titles. Only real regret with that is not being able to experience the heavily streamlined process of getting competitive ready Pokémon. Spent way too many hours in gen 6 especially IV breeding lol

  • @johanandersson8252
    @johanandersson8252 2 роки тому

    You can fly on a bird who’s 0.3 meters long.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +2

      if the manga is anything to go by you just hang from their talons

    • @johanandersson8252
      @johanandersson8252 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions Yeah, but it would look very weird.

  • @PeterParker-ff7ub
    @PeterParker-ff7ub 2 роки тому

    The gambling corner is gone because a ratings board decided to change what they allow

  • @Deoxys_Used_Mimic
    @Deoxys_Used_Mimic 2 роки тому

    The Arceus Event were you can get a *Level 1* Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina has to be the single-greatest event in Pokémon history for me.
    I LOVE the idea of training legendary/mythical Pokémon from such a low level.
    I know it’s generally frowned upon in the Pokémon community to even *use* these Pokémon… but I say F*CK ‘EM!
    It’s *because* no one uses them is why I find playing through a whole game with one at its weakest, and training it up, so inviting!

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      Yeah it's a sick event. Would be fun to trigger it early and use one from basically the start of the game.

    • @Deoxys_Used_Mimic
      @Deoxys_Used_Mimic 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions
      Honestly, I’d just trade it to a new game.
      Yeah it won’t obey you for a while and it’ll get extra Exp, but:
      1) Needing to *earn* the “little guy’s” obedience until after the first Gym Badge makes logical sense to me.
      2) The mere threat of leveling up past a certain Badge’s cap would de-incentivize grinding/overlevelling, *especially* with that extra exp, but legendaries typically level at the pace of molasses anyway; who knows, they might even need it.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      @@Deoxys_Used_Mimic I feel prettt confident that if you took one at level 1 after the first gym (earliest point you can) that it would level up so slowly that it would never push up against the level cap if you were playing even remotely normally. I went through the game with stuff in medium level up groups that were struggling to keep up lmao, bigger concern I suppose would be that Dialga and Palkia have pretty insane types, especially Dialga before Steel nerf and Fairy type intro. Virtually nothing threatens Dialga and Palkia's first push would be Clair then Lance- Giratina at least struggles against Morty hyptothetically

  • @ultiomos
    @ultiomos 2 роки тому +1

    1:33:19 i saw that savestate kek

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      lmao as if i was letting that slip away from me

  • @ConnorKrohnicles
    @ConnorKrohnicles 2 роки тому

    I just wish the game was less of a slog to get through because of the horrendous level curve. Absolutely amazing art, music, and overall feel though.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      Yeah it gets a bit messy in places, not sire what can be dome though

  • @StarDestroyer362
    @StarDestroyer362 7 місяців тому

    I have always loved the Johto region and exactly because of that I can't bring myself to love HGSS. The potential the games had was tremendous but the level curve and the strange pokemon placement unfortunately just ruins the game for me

  • @Zanelander
    @Zanelander 8 місяців тому

    God. Where's my Legends Arceus 2 for Johto?

  • @lipika2841
    @lipika2841 9 місяців тому

    I can bet if Lyra was in Crystal instead & was replaced by Cris in HgSs as the new female protag of Jotho, ppl would miss Lyra.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  9 місяців тому

      Eh, Lyra is kinda just overdesigned. If Brassius was a gen 2 leader I'd still go what were they theeeenkeng like the avgn

    • @jenisia3600
      @jenisia3600 7 місяців тому

      Nah, Lyra will always be a mistake.

  • @SiphonRayzar
    @SiphonRayzar 2 роки тому

    Hello. I was wondering, what emulator are you using for emulating this series?

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      GSC on MGBA, HGSS on MelonDS

    • @SiphonRayzar
      @SiphonRayzar 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions Thanks, I appreciate it. Love the two pokemon videos btw, amazing work.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      @@SiphonRayzar thanks a bunch. more soon-ish :)

  • @pokemontrainerthink9045
    @pokemontrainerthink9045 9 місяців тому

    So running actually doesn't increase encounter odds, I used to think this too, but I just watched a video like last week where someone wanted to see what the increased odds was.. they did 100 laps around mt moon, 100 running and 100 walking and it was like 97 encounters running and 98 walking so its got no effect, at least in FRLG could be different in different games

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  9 місяців тому

      It does in HGSS, although as far as I'm aware it's actually the only game where it does.

  • @TheSandwhichman108
    @TheSandwhichman108 Рік тому

    Anyone here hate low catch rates? Yeah for something like a legendary it’s understandable but would you really expect a quillfish to have a frustratingly low catch rate?

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  Рік тому

      murkrow 💀

    • @TheSandwhichman108
      @TheSandwhichman108 Рік тому

      @@ntmaproductions Ah yes I remember in pokemon sun I was trying to see how many pokemon I could obtain on a single version. That damn murkrow took at least ten of my ultra balls before finally deciding to be caught.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  Рік тому

      @@TheSandwhichman108 iirc, Murkrow has the lowest catch rate possible for a non-Legendary except for Beldum, because Beldum has the legendary CR.

    • @TheSandwhichman108
      @TheSandwhichman108 Рік тому

      @@ntmaproductions also speaking of sun and moon and the ultra versions I soon realized how powerful the poke paradise mechanic was. I can basically farm leppa and lum berries as well as various friendship berries. On top of that I can keep getting evolution stones and thus I don’t need to worry about having to save them for just one pokemon. Also rare treasure hunting…All I’m gonna say if you routinely use that then in the long run you can expect to be swimming in cash.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  Рік тому

      @@TheSandwhichman108 ain't nothing comapre to RS pickup farming

  • @ericormathias
    @ericormathias 2 роки тому

    Where is part 1?!

  • @minifigamer9898
    @minifigamer9898 2 роки тому

    22:05 static's field use is also useful for shiny hunting, like say the ampharos line (or at least, mareep and flaaffy cause ampharos itself, outside of spinoffs such as the ranger trilogy, has never been available in the wild) on route 42

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      Yep, same for Pikachu with its low encounter rate, and Magnet Pull equally for uncommon Steels, like Skarmory

  • @pokemontrainerthink9045
    @pokemontrainerthink9045 9 місяців тому

    The only thing I don't really like about these games is that they didn't fix the level curve, or the kanto wild pokèmon problem..... or the lack of johto mons in johto.. otherwise great games lol i prefer to play these ones with a max of 4 mons due to the level curve

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  9 місяців тому

      at least some of the johto mons get a little bit of space in the horrible safari zone

  • @CartersRemasters
    @CartersRemasters 11 місяців тому

    I am so sick of the flaron hate, his special attack is 95, that is not bad, a flamethrower can still hit pretty damn hard, the huge attack just helps when using non-stab physical moves, bite (early game), crunch, take down and iron tail (late game)... Obv wish there was more Physcial fire moves, but acting like he is useless is crazy, espically when there is not a bunch of fire types, i'd much rather relay on a somewhat fast, flaron then you're Slugma or Houndoom which you can only get in Kanto

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  11 місяців тому +2

      We love Flareon, but objectively he got the short end of the Eevee stick when others got their minmaxing in far more relevant stats. It's not that Flareon is dead unusable, despite how I may sound, just that it's stuck in an awkward position. Gen 4 was a nice turning point for it thanks to the Physical Special split giving it more to work with, even if it's still underhwelming, but it also needs to live in the shadow of Arcanine, umfortunately.

    • @CartersRemasters
      @CartersRemasters 11 місяців тому

      Fair enough, I did forget about Acainine, that thing is beast, intermediate is no joke! And i think learns flamethrower somewhat early if you wait to use the fire stone.. Cannto wait to watch more of these videos, hope I didn't come across as too aggressive, just had to defend my fav eevee evolution!@@ntmaproductions

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  11 місяців тому +2

      @@CartersRemasters No worries pal, it happens, also don't forget Arcanine gets ExtremeSpeed, incredible move

  • @dltah532
    @dltah532 Рік тому

    GYGA IMPACT?!?!?!?!?

  • @PoipoleBoi
    @PoipoleBoi 2 роки тому

    46:00 minor spelling mistake, I win

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      how can i ever recover

    • @PoipoleBoi
      @PoipoleBoi 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions just wanna say though I just found your videos today. They're really awesome and I'm subbing. Thanks for the entertainment.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      @@PoipoleBoi Glad to hear it!

  • @otto2280
    @otto2280 2 роки тому

    Put hashtags on your video

  • @butterpants5711
    @butterpants5711 3 місяці тому

    Pokemon mystery dungeon 10 hour break down when? Lol

  • @ultiomos
    @ultiomos 2 роки тому

    2:11:35 cue benny hill theme

  • @Y0sh1no5am
    @Y0sh1no5am 10 місяців тому

    Im disappointed that they show Oak at start of the game like ain't we suppose to follow Professor Elm in Johto? Why Oak. We already had him in Kanto, let us have Elm. Elm doesn't get to shine so often. This should be Elm's spotlight not Oak's.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  10 місяців тому +1

      True, Elm really does get overshadowed a lot

  • @otto2280
    @otto2280 2 роки тому

    Kino kino kino

  • @carsonswitalski9098
    @carsonswitalski9098 2 роки тому

    I may be in the minority here, but despite me usually being a big fan of these multiple hour retrospective videos, I really didn’t think this video was that great. It was less of an entire retrospective and evaluation, and more of you just going through the Pokédex of this particular game and describing each Pokémon and it’s abilities. Someone who is clicking on a 3-hour Pokémon video probably already has a fair understanding of the stats and typing of each Mon, and doing that for every single one in the game (and not in the game) just feels like padding. I feel like a more purposeful retrospective would delve further into aspects like the story or characters or the map design. A good example of this would be like ShayMay’s 7-hour retrospective of Omega Ruby, where he provides a thorough and nuanced look at every aspect of the game design including the difficulty, design of the region, plot, etc. Instead, this just feels like stats and info being read off of Bulbapedia or Serebii as you look through what Pokémon are available on each route. If that’s what you were going for, then more power to you. I feel as a retrospective though, the purpose of this video comes off as a tad confused. I apologize if any of this comes off as rude of harsh, I mean this more as constructive criticism, as a retrospective this just seems a little directionless.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      Fair enough, thanks for commenting regardless and there's a lot I'm looking to fix next time.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      wrt what i meant to do i intended talking about so many pokemon to be kinda an interesting look at how routes were designed but i think its fairly messy? there's lots of other things I regret in going so far in depth on and other mistakes I hope to clear up and make more concise with the rby video that's coming out soonish. always good to hear feedback

    • @carsonswitalski9098
      @carsonswitalski9098 2 роки тому

      @@ntmaproductions If you are looking for inspiration or structure for a future retrospective in this style, I’d recommend checking the aforementioned 7-hour analysis video ShayMay made about Omega Ruby. It’s similar in style, going from each gameplay beat and moment of the story and reviewing every little part as he plays, but it’s a little more fleshed out and resolute in what it is actually covering and evaluating like I had mentioned before. Of course, I wouldn’t copy it verbatim and totally feel free to put your own spin on it. I may be a little biased, having watched it fairly recently (I have been on a bit of a binge in terms of these longer retrospectives, which is probably how I found your video) but I just thought it was solid and very well thought out.

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому

      @@carsonswitalski9098 Yeah it's a good video, I've seen it a few times. It was definitely something I wanted but I also find Pokemon design interesting and wanted to highlight that but did it in weird ways and I'm workin on making it less clunky next time around. There's some regrettable moments in this one especially that I'm trying to improve on lmao.

  • @graylyhen9490
    @graylyhen9490 2 роки тому

    Going into detail about what a Pokemon can do was good but I think you should've kept it to the Mons you'd normally encounter in Johto. The Mons from the Sounds radio is alright cuz you can get and use them but going through every Pokemon in the gen added a lot of long winded segments to the video. I think your spacing of it was great when it was area to area, like you'd talk about Mons from one route as well as items or events at a route, but having entire brick sections of it felt way too long and not relevant to the video. The balance of area, events, Pokemon, etc together bit by bit was perfect

    • @ntmaproductions
      @ntmaproductions  2 роки тому +1

      That's fair. It felt pertinent at the time butI agree it was pribably a msitake lmao

  • @AnneALias
    @AnneALias 9 місяців тому

    You gotta learn to use breathing and pausing techniques way more