I must have been around 8 years old when I got my Silver version. It was an early birthday gift my parents got me and I remember reading the case and the manual in the car once we left Walmart. I caught so many HootHoots that night.
@@ntmaproductions yeah I always went for that one, even though I only used it to mirror match Rival 2 and then I boxed it :D But soon after my all time favorite Machop will be joining the team
Just found this, and I’m going to have to listen to it in parts, but I’m thoroughly enjoying. I’ll have to check out your HGSS retrospective after this
This is crazy in depth. Ive watched far too many retrospective and analysis videos of all gens and ive seen a few in depth ones but not to this extent. Great job. I find gold and silver to be overrated as hell for a number of reasons. However, Crystal is top tier pokemon and fixes almost all of the issues i had with Gold and Silver. Oc i loved GS at the time it came out but Crystal is just so much better. I LOVE Crystal. The biggest improvements being the ability to get elemental stones during the main story, which opens up team building tremendously, and the addition of the random egg you get at the daycare which is very useful. The moving around of pokemon wild encounter rates is also a huge improvement.
lol rip. if you have rby you can time machine a pokemon back, buy a stone at the department store, evo it, and send it back. no gen 2 pokemon evo by stone kmao
@@ntmaproductions in all seriousness I’m so livid I have to wait for route 25 and bills grandfather for this BS, where’s staryu? I know where Oddish is and those are what he wants to see for water and leaf stones, at least my Shiny espeon is making me feel better
@@ntmaproductions is that good or super rod? I have good but I’ll detour for super right after I beat the league, I made a lot of progress yesterday so I’m already in Indigo but I’m seething so hard that Poli’s ice punch isn’t strong enough yet
I genuinely love how neutral the tone of your voice is. No yelling, no dramatics, no skits. Just talking. It makes this video such easier to listen to despite being so long.
thats because his audience is not children, most of us i imagine are in our 20s and have grown up with these games and re visiting them with a fresh outlook, we dont need heavy editing or fake energy to keep us hooked to the video
hey hands down this is my favorite retrospective ive ever listened to its been such a good background as i play crystal and has shaped some of my team choices! thank you so much
@@Jac735 g: Meganium/Magmar/Slowbro/Steelix/Ampharos/Pidgeot s: Feraligatr/Scizor/Victreebel/Ninetales/Skarmory/Gengar c: Typhlosion/Suicune/Raikou/Ho-oh/Lugia/Parasect (and a variety of other guys on the way to getting all of them :))
I think viridian forest being a hedge maze is kind of poetic. The idea that a dark scary forest full of bugs and such was actually just a hedge maze and it was all in our kid brains is beautifully poetic if you look at it that way.
This video was too long. Halfway through it, I got hungry so I left it playing and went to the kitchen to fix myself a sandwich. But then I found out that I'm out of mayonnaise so I went to a store. There, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my whole life. But I'm a really shy person so I took up a three-year personality development course so I could introduce myself. She was very friendly and all, but unfortunately, she had a boyfriend. So I said, all good, I'm a mature person. I wanted the best for her and I harbored no illusion that I am the best person for her and she seemed happy with her boyfriend, so I didn't bother her anymore. But we kept in touch and we became friends and I got over my crush on her. Then she broke up with her boyfriend, we drank some alcohol because of it. I told her she'll be fine and I wished her well. I still think she's the most beautiful woman in the world, but like I said, I am over my crush on her. It was like five years already since I first saw her. Besides, I am quite happy with the friendship I developed with her. It was more important than a crush. So we kept hanging out, drinking, having coffee, and all. I had a girlfriend, she started dating other guys. My girlfriend wanted to live some other life without me in it, so I said, "Okay, I want the best for you and I want you to pursue your happiness." My lady friend and I drank alcohol about it, and she gave me the same advice I gave her when she was in that position and I became okay with the breakup immediately. But we were really drunk, so she spent the night in my apartment. I only have one bed, so you know what that means: She took the bed and I slept on the couch. But on the couch, I really can't sleep. Something was bothering me. So I tossed and turned for about three hours, then I finally couldn''t take it anymore, I stood up and went straight to my room where she's sleeping. I approached the bed, gently sat on it and I reached for her shoulder to pull her closer to me. She stirred and woke up. She asked what's up. I told her, "you know, the first time I saw you, I was watching a video and left it playing to get myself a sandwich then went to the store to get some mayo then I got so distracted by life that I forgot to finish the video." She said, "You know what, I've been wondering about a weird noise in your night drawer." So we opened that drawer, and lo and behold, there's my phone and this video still has two minutes of play time on it.
I remember a kid bringing one back from japan before it came here, and everyone loves bow the pokemon actually moved! Simple times 😂 Honestly an amazing game with some obvious flaws (kanto was too low level, late game dark pokemon, more trade exclusive pokemon) but all it brought to the table… it’s easily my favourite pokemon gen. Personally I consider gen 1 and 2 the same because of trading and the stadium series… kinda beautiful when you get a charizard with outrage by breeding or when you use a tm on a gen 1 pokemon and trade it to gen 2.
There is a strong argument that gen 1 and 2 are the same. A lot of gen 2 Pokemon were originally designed for gen 1 but we're scrapped/ removed due to hardware limitations. And then used in gen 2. Gen 2 was still created and directed by Satoshi Tagiri( the George Lucas of Pokemon) and then he left Game Freak after Crystal. Ken Suigimori and his team still had the same design ethos from gen 1 and still created the monsters on Japanese water color. Big reason why the franchise felt so different from gen 3 on. Game freak also wanted more "softer" "rounder" designed which has continued to this day. Alot folks refer to this era as the classical era( including the TCG that ended until skyridge) But I like to refer as the " Real Pocket Monsters Era".
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo yeah, I don't think we will ever experience another social-game quite to this level... what with the internet and all. Glad I enjoyed Gen 1-2 when they were new with friends!
I will never get tired of hearing of Gen 2. You’re probably done with it, but I’d like to hear your thoughts on Pokémon Stadium 2 since it goes hand in hand with GSC.
I think the game, despite everyone’s hate, is balanced really well and they give you plenty of ways to train through trainer calls, the underground battle spot in Viridian city that gives you a battle a day and yes the grind if you want. I don’t think the game is meant to be blasted through but more like animal crossing where you’d spend some time in the world each day. Be with your Pokémon, back track and get berries and finish other tasks that you couldn’t do last time because you didn’t have the badge or HM yet, all the while “grinding” as you walk through the tall grass
I’m 36 now and loved pokemon gold so much as a kid. Recently got back into it and got heart gold, how sad is it to now find out there is no houndoor in the second part of the game :(
You said that this is the only game without a good breeding path, but that's not true. It's just vertical in these games instead of horizontal like the others, but there's a nice long strip between Route 34 and Goldenrod City. Also, breeding for shinies isn't 1/64 except in the very best situations. It can range anywhere from 1/64 to literally impossible to get a shiny from breeding. Due to the fact that shininess is based on DVs and the way DV inheritance works, it's only possible to breed a shiny from an opposite-gender parent that either is shiny or has specific Defense and Special DVs. Ditto is always the parent to pass down DVs so it effectively takes the place of both genders for this. So if you're breeding with a shiny or shiny-capable Ditto, you have a 1/64 chance. If you're breeding something that can only be one gender with an opposite-gender parent that's shiny or shiny-compatible, like Chansey with a shiny male, you'll have a 1/64 chance. But if you're, for example, breeding a female starter with a shiny male you'll only have a 1/64 chance on _female_ offspring and a 0% chance on male offspring, resulting in an overall 1/512 chance. But then there's stuff that is guaranteed to never result in a shiny, like if you have a shiny Chansey it will never breed another shiny Chansey since the offspring will always get its DVs from the non-Chansey parent and you can't breed two shiny-capable Pokémon together because the mechanic to stop breeding parents with children will consider them related. And of course, if neither parent is shiny or a shiny-capable non-shiny they'll never produce shiny offspring. Of course, since you have a guaranteed encounter with shiny Gyarados, which can learn Mimic by TM in gen 1 and gen 1 has a glitch that uses Mimic to make a wild Ditto copy your Pokémon's DVs it's not _too_ hard to get your hands on a shiny Ditto to use for breeding at that 1/64 rate.
In GSC, there are NPCs along the central road in Goldenrod that move back and forth in your path. You can eventually use Nugget brodge which is moderately better but requires a lot of flying. Also very good insight on the shiny breeding, I appreciate it a bunch!
@@ntmaproductions The path I used was off center a tile or two to the East, but as long as you didn't slow down the NPCs would almost never step in front of you. They have default positions and only move randomly while you're in town with them, so you'd need to roll unfavorably like 3 times in a row for them to step into the path. If you slowed down, like not immediately reversing direction when you hit the gate house to Route 35, they'd have more time to path far enough to block you however. It's been a while, but I did quite a lot of breeding back in the day. Honestly I miss the orderly back and forth of breeding in the tile based games compared to the 3D games' "spin the thumbstick like crazy" method.
@@RikkuEcRud I always seemed to have bad luck and needed to veery every few laps. It's not a *terrible* route but ita not nearly as clean and optimal as later generations
God damn... I love Pokemon... I love Japanese food... I love Anime... I love Toyota and Honda... I love Japanese Porno... Am I brainwashed? I mean, I am not Japanese but I sort of want to be Japanese. Nipponese, by the way. Nippon. LOL
Some how back then i got a Japanese version from my friend; before the game even launched here in the states someone already ripped the rom ; back on windows 98 could have been 95 still for all i remember. i just remember playing it on a emulator from a floppy disk my buddy gave me for my 10th birthday;
It's hard to say since he had it even when Crobat had a different evo method in the Soaceworld Protos, but I like to imagine that it's either intentional or a happy coincidence, given his arc.
it's niche in the sense that it's rare to see in the single player and has a low chance of applying each effect- more of an edgecase than niche but still
I was getting some stuff out of my garage, and noticed a game boy color laying in a box, so I took it out and found that it had Pokémon crystal in it. I was like “dear god” it was like finding the ark of the covenant, so I fixed the save battery and slapped it into my gameboy advance that I played sliver on 20 years before, and am have a absolute blast.
Ledian’s “alien” aspects come from it being based on kamen rider/super sentai/power rangers aesthetics Edit: okay its weird you knew the tsuchinoko for dunsparce but not the above; the later seems a lot more esoteric
Honestly not sure here either. Most likely a cultural aspect I’m missing but I think the above average fighting types (which is a low key stand in for justice) moves as the generations goes on reinforces the idea.
@@obviousalias132 A lot of Kamens are based on bugs, but to my recollection none specifically Ladybugs. Perhaps a designed backwards situation where a Kamen rider Bug Pokemon needed a pre-evo and the easiest solution was just... a bug
@@ntmaproductions I feel maybe something to do with the spots/stars but thats just speculation on my part. Since we are talking name origins and I just got to the part Mareep is Philip K Dick (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep/Bladerunner) and also an anagram of ampere (and probably smushing Mary and Bo Peep together). I’ve always been impressed with how layered Pokémon designs especially having to translate so many so the puns work in other languages.
@@obviousalias132 iirc, an earlier name for Mareep also incorperated Dolly, the first cloned sheep- but it was deemed too controversial. Bur yeah, lots of really clever names
I beat Pokémon gold with just Furret a very long time ago I didn’t beat kanto because I didn’t know how to wake up snorlax I know how to now lol but the moves I had where rest sleep talk surf and iron tail
Am I the only one who encountered Lucia in helix forest sometimes? Idk if that’s an actual fact and it probably isn’t but I think when I was a 7-8 yr old that happened.
I’d like to technically add a 4th way to get stones in G/S/C If you have a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2 and get far enough along in G/S/C you can transfer them through the Pokemon Lab in Stadium 2 using the Colour and Metal Cases if you have a copy of R/B/Y you can use the Missing No. glitch to duplicate those items, throw out 30 of them because the item in your 6th slot is duplicated by 4 times so you end up with 120 and to prevent the games from freaking out it’s best you throw 30 of them.
GSC were definitely peak handheld games on the GameBoy Color. If pokemon had ended there it would of been fine. Thankfully pokemon continued and we got so many ither great games. So many things about this game just hasnt been replicated before. The region of johto is beautiful, timed events are interesting, and day/night cycle makes the world more immersive. Johto is a region where yes you can get to the elite 4 in under 40 hours. But it really is a reigon/game where you spend time backtracking and exploring
I was about 9 or 10 when soul silver came out and id never had anything other than a 64 with mario kart. So my first pokemon game was beyond amazing i spent ungodly hours playing it. Then i got ruby and overplayed that and finally got emerald which i emulate on my phone at least 3 times a year with full play throughs😂
I’m a gay man and when you said at 27:38 that the poke ball that is suppose to work on the opposite sex doesn’t work correctly and instead works for the same sex is a GAY RIGHTS ball 🏳️🌈 I died laughing! 😂😂😂 thank you for this video
I hate breeding and shiny hunting always had always will I just suck at it don’t know what I’m doing every shiny I ever got was out of pure luck just playing the game
Big brain move- start a new team after johto and stop complaining about level curve or pokemon coming late.. suddenly it plays like gym leaders are elite 4 and its awesome
I got gold and then got crystal when that came out my brother had silver I remember I loved crystal man I recently downloaded a emulator on my phone just to play crystal I really wish they would remake crystal for the switch in let’s go style or even scarlet but I’ll take it in let’s go style
Crystal was my first Pokemon game, back in 2nd grade. I beat it with a Feraligatr that knew Surf, Cut, Strength, and Hydro Pump. And a Kadabra that I didn't know needed trade to evolve. But he did learn Zap Cannon which was cool. It took a long time to get past the E4 the first time, let me tell you. And I never did beat Red, not until SoulSilver years later.
Lol my original party was a Typhlosion named AAAAAAAAAA that had fire blast, dynamic punch, cut, and strength, a Nidorino because I never knew about the once a week Clefairy dance, and a Poliwhirl, because I equally never knew how to find Water Stones
@@ntmaproductionsa bit late, but I just assumed you meant to trade down the pokemon, evolve it in gen 1 using the stone and then trade back up. Which is still a hassle
Wonderful video, thanks for taking the time to make this. I only wish you would have mentioned how Scizor can earn Baton Pass through breeding, making him a pretty nasty pick with Swords Dance, which buffs Fury Cutter and Steel Wing - both STAB - on the rare occasion the player wouldn't be better off passing those Attack buffs onto another Pokemon.
wow this is a big review, thanks! I'm so excited to watch it all. But maybe i'll wait till I finish HeartGold and Crystal. I always wanted to own Crystal but couldn't afford it as a kid.
I like this video I dont care how long it is, but how dare you explain pokemon to me a 25 year old franchise like im a fuckin child I appreciate the video but do no question anyone's intelligence ever again if someone is watching a 3 hour video on pokemon best believe they know everything your explaining and more!! Damn..
In my opinion a youtube video doesn’t get better just because it’s really long. I’m not watching a UA-cam video that’s 3+ hours. Maybe next time try to keep it a bit more brief and light. This just gets too boring.
I love Gen 2, it’s just so… I have no clue it was like the Gen 5 of pre Gen 5 in how it looks, the Semi-dynamic sprites are cool, the gameplay is fun if repetitive, and I can honestly blow through one of these games in like a week if I’m busy so they’re like popcorn gaming for me Edit: I’d just like to respectfully mention you seem to miss some things, like tackle not having 50 power until Gen 5 or shadow ball being physical and thusly amazing on the Ratata line, which is just a minor thing I don’t hate the vid, I absolutely love it
I'm sure there's plenty I missed because I was all over the place lmao. I did mention in the mechanics section that all Ghost moves are physical, but I don't think I specifically applied it to Shadow Ball's insane coverage 😅
@@ntmaproductions it only does because with it Ratata can have better coverage in the case of rock types and other types that normal can’t really steamroll for one reason for another, so it matters at least to me, if you think I’m overdoing it tho that’s fair I’m a no-life teen so what do know lmao 😂 Edit: also the heart disappeared when I edited the comment and I 🥲
@@ntmaproductions yeah, but if you’d like my discord or some shit so I can give you my two cents since most the games I own are pre split I can help you because I’ve honestly grown to understand it so very well it’s low key unhealthy lol
6 curses for x6 atk, STAB EQ on the fairly solid Atk of Steelix, and Espeon's fairly low defense. Red's team also doesn't have comp DVs, but even if it did it'd be a really splid hit despite reflect.
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here's a link to part 2 (HeartGold/SoulSilver)
I must have been around 8 years old when I got my Silver version. It was an early birthday gift my parents got me and I remember reading the case and the manual in the car once we left Walmart. I caught so many HootHoots that night.
Crystal was my first. Named my Cyndaquil AAAAAAAA because I was slow
@@ntmaproductions 😂
I was hyped I could catch Geodude so early haha :D (on the route before the second town)
@@silverhetch3383 The early Gastly in Sprout is one of my favorites
@@ntmaproductions yeah I always went for that one, even though I only used it to mirror match Rival 2 and then I boxed it :D
But soon after my all time favorite Machop will be joining the team
Just found this, and I’m going to have to listen to it in parts, but I’m thoroughly enjoying. I’ll have to check out your HGSS retrospective after this
The HGSS retrospective is even better, hell is the best HGSS retrospective on YT.
@@jenisia3600 I agree. I watched it and thoroughly enjoyed
This is crazy in depth. Ive watched far too many retrospective and analysis videos of all gens and ive seen a few in depth ones but not to this extent. Great job. I find gold and silver to be overrated as hell for a number of reasons. However, Crystal is top tier pokemon and fixes almost all of the issues i had with Gold and Silver. Oc i loved GS at the time it came out but Crystal is just so much better. I LOVE Crystal. The biggest improvements being the ability to get elemental stones during the main story, which opens up team building tremendously, and the addition of the random egg you get at the daycare which is very useful. The moving around of pokemon wild encounter rates is also a huge improvement.
Where is the download link
for?
Do you get evolution stones from phone calls in silver? I’ve been trying a while :(
lol rip. if you have rby you can time machine a pokemon back, buy a stone at the department store, evo it, and send it back. no gen 2 pokemon evo by stone kmao
@@ntmaproductions P-poliwhirl… Weepenbell.. FUUUUUUUUUUUU-(we’ll be right back)
@@ntmaproductions in all seriousness I’m so livid I have to wait for route 25 and bills grandfather for this BS, where’s staryu? I know where Oddish is and those are what he wants to see for water and leaf stones, at least my Shiny espeon is making me feel better
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 fish off the boating dock in olivine (you have to go through the level transition to the specific dock map)
@@ntmaproductions is that good or super rod? I have good but I’ll detour for super right after I beat the league, I made a lot of progress yesterday so I’m already in Indigo but I’m seething so hard that Poli’s ice punch isn’t strong enough yet
:D
I genuinely love how neutral the tone of your voice is. No yelling, no dramatics, no skits. Just talking. It makes this video such easier to listen to despite being so long.
Thank youAaa
@@ntmaproductions No problemAAa
@@Seinsmelled i was very sleepy
thats because his audience is not children, most of us i imagine are in our 20s and have grown up with these games and re visiting them with a fresh outlook, we dont need heavy editing or fake energy to keep us hooked to the video
@@joeyrozic1100 I'm 13. What you said is still true, though.
I wish I could go back and experience this game again like it was the first time 😭
Getting shaymay's 7 hour omega ruby vibes with how much effort you put into this video.
a big inspiration, i assure you
I love how you let the entire Gameboy color intro play in the begging!
Ah Yes, in the begging
"4 moves will never be enough" you truly dont know 5 year old me or my overlevel typhlosion
I was the same- mine wss named AAAAAAAAAA
hey hands down this is my favorite retrospective ive ever listened to its been such a good background as i play crystal and has shaped some of my team choices! thank you so much
thank you!!
What team did you assemble my team was good but in a way kinda awkward
@@Jac735 g: Meganium/Magmar/Slowbro/Steelix/Ampharos/Pidgeot
s: Feraligatr/Scizor/Victreebel/Ninetales/Skarmory/Gengar
c: Typhlosion/Suicune/Raikou/Ho-oh/Lugia/Parasect (and a variety of other guys on the way to getting all of them :))
Try KingK. He doesn't take 3 minutes to start talking.
@@XXXXX8 I liked watching the whole intro
I never realized that psychic's weaknesses are common fears. That's pretty interesting.
I think viridian forest being a hedge maze is kind of poetic. The idea that a dark scary forest full of bugs and such was actually just a hedge maze and it was all in our kid brains is beautifully poetic if you look at it that way.
I think it's supposed to say that the forest was cut down
I literally never cared, like how is it scary lmfao.
@@oneautumnleaff2119idk when I was a kid that forest in diamond and pearl with the mansion was pretty spooky
I'm in love with hours-long video game retrospectives.
Think I've played more gen 2 hacks than anything past gen 3
Oh my God that early game grinding is grinding my gears! It's like watching paint dry! The content is fantastic though!
In gen 2 I try to level up all my mons once per route, and once per story building. Also I like to keep a team of 5 max
You and king k seem to have my favourite retrospectives. Johto and gen 2 will always be my most fond memories
same crystal was my childhood, and emerald, both my 2 fave pokemon games
Gen 1 for me, but I love that we can all get along in this fandom
Major props for this! Love this generation like no other
Just found this and your hgss retrospectives, I'm gonna have a great Sunday. Thank you for your effort and time!!!
enjoy!
I’m getting it on a Friday. Fitting since Frida is my spirit npc from this gen
This video was too long. Halfway through it, I got hungry so I left it playing and went to the kitchen to fix myself a sandwich. But then I found out that I'm out of mayonnaise so I went to a store. There, I saw the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my whole life. But I'm a really shy person so I took up a three-year personality development course so I could introduce myself. She was very friendly and all, but unfortunately, she had a boyfriend. So I said, all good, I'm a mature person. I wanted the best for her and I harbored no illusion that I am the best person for her and she seemed happy with her boyfriend, so I didn't bother her anymore. But we kept in touch and we became friends and I got over my crush on her. Then she broke up with her boyfriend, we drank some alcohol because of it. I told her she'll be fine and I wished her well. I still think she's the most beautiful woman in the world, but like I said, I am over my crush on her. It was like five years already since I first saw her. Besides, I am quite happy with the friendship I developed with her. It was more important than a crush. So we kept hanging out, drinking, having coffee, and all. I had a girlfriend, she started dating other guys. My girlfriend wanted to live some other life without me in it, so I said, "Okay, I want the best for you and I want you to pursue your happiness." My lady friend and I drank alcohol about it, and she gave me the same advice I gave her when she was in that position and I became okay with the breakup immediately. But we were really drunk, so she spent the night in my apartment. I only have one bed, so you know what that means: She took the bed and I slept on the couch. But on the couch, I really can't sleep. Something was bothering me. So I tossed and turned for about three hours, then I finally couldn''t take it anymore, I stood up and went straight to my room where she's sleeping. I approached the bed, gently sat on it and I reached for her shoulder to pull her closer to me. She stirred and woke up. She asked what's up. I told her, "you know, the first time I saw you, I was watching a video and left it playing to get myself a sandwich then went to the store to get some mayo then I got so distracted by life that I forgot to finish the video." She said, "You know what, I've been wondering about a weird noise in your night drawer." So we opened that drawer, and lo and behold, there's my phone and this video still has two minutes of play time on it.
🤣😭
It’s my party and I get to choose the movie!! In all honesty, though, this was a very good in depth review of the games! Keep up the good work!
thanks! I also have a video on HGSS that was meant to be one long video but Sony Vegas disagreed
@@ntmaproductions it’s definitely on my work playlist for my next full shift haha
Get a stone attach it as an item on a pokemon. Do the clone glitch on the pc. Now you have multiple stones. Same with rare candy's.
Same with master balls tbh ;)
I remember a kid bringing one back from japan before it came here, and everyone loves bow the pokemon actually moved! Simple times 😂
Honestly an amazing game with some obvious flaws (kanto was too low level, late game dark pokemon, more trade exclusive pokemon) but all it brought to the table… it’s easily my favourite pokemon gen.
Personally I consider gen 1 and 2 the same because of trading and the stadium series… kinda beautiful when you get a charizard with outrage by breeding or when you use a tm on a gen 1 pokemon and trade it to gen 2.
Yeah I'l never get over Gen 2. Was my first but they're also just beautiful games despite some weirdness
There is a strong argument that gen 1 and 2 are the same. A lot of gen 2 Pokemon were originally designed for gen 1 but we're scrapped/ removed due to hardware limitations. And then used in gen 2. Gen 2 was still created and directed by Satoshi Tagiri( the George Lucas of Pokemon) and then he left Game Freak after Crystal. Ken Suigimori and his team still had the same design ethos from gen 1 and still created the monsters on Japanese water color. Big reason why the franchise felt so different from gen 3 on. Game freak also wanted more "softer" "rounder" designed which has continued to this day. Alot folks refer to this era as the classical era( including the TCG that ended until skyridge) But I like to refer as the " Real Pocket Monsters Era".
@@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo yeah, I don't think we will ever experience another social-game quite to this level... what with the internet and all. Glad I enjoyed Gen 1-2 when they were new with friends!
This is easily my most played game ever.... probably for 3yrs straight I played this when I was a kid.
“Heracross fucks” killed me lmao
I think one of the potential upsides of the weird level curve is that you can switch over to newer, low level pokemon.
I will never get tired of hearing of Gen 2. You’re probably done with it, but I’d like to hear your thoughts on Pokémon Stadium 2 since it goes hand in hand with GSC.
Eventually 😅
Pokemon stadium made gen 2 the best gen and gamefreak is insane for having never made a modern pokemon stadium.
a 3 hour retrospec on gen 2? immediate subscribe.
Brother this and the HG/SS are you're best retrospective. Is like audio strategy guide.
I can't imagine the amount of effort that went into creating this video. Great stuff and very much appreciated 🙏🏽
I think the game, despite everyone’s hate, is balanced really well and they give you plenty of ways to train through trainer calls, the underground battle spot in Viridian city that gives you a battle a day and yes the grind if you want. I don’t think the game is meant to be blasted through but more like animal crossing where you’d spend some time in the world each day. Be with your Pokémon, back track and get berries and finish other tasks that you couldn’t do last time because you didn’t have the badge or HM yet, all the while “grinding” as you walk through the tall grass
I’m 36 now and loved pokemon gold so much as a kid. Recently got back into it and got heart gold, how sad is it to now find out there is no houndoor in the second part of the game :(
Luckily in HG has Houndoom on the Safari Zone
This was seriosily peak Pokemon for me. Never personally reached that same high again
You said that this is the only game without a good breeding path, but that's not true. It's just vertical in these games instead of horizontal like the others, but there's a nice long strip between Route 34 and Goldenrod City.
Also, breeding for shinies isn't 1/64 except in the very best situations. It can range anywhere from 1/64 to literally impossible to get a shiny from breeding. Due to the fact that shininess is based on DVs and the way DV inheritance works, it's only possible to breed a shiny from an opposite-gender parent that either is shiny or has specific Defense and Special DVs. Ditto is always the parent to pass down DVs so it effectively takes the place of both genders for this.
So if you're breeding with a shiny or shiny-capable Ditto, you have a 1/64 chance. If you're breeding something that can only be one gender with an opposite-gender parent that's shiny or shiny-compatible, like Chansey with a shiny male, you'll have a 1/64 chance. But if you're, for example, breeding a female starter with a shiny male you'll only have a 1/64 chance on _female_ offspring and a 0% chance on male offspring, resulting in an overall 1/512 chance. But then there's stuff that is guaranteed to never result in a shiny, like if you have a shiny Chansey it will never breed another shiny Chansey since the offspring will always get its DVs from the non-Chansey parent and you can't breed two shiny-capable Pokémon together because the mechanic to stop breeding parents with children will consider them related. And of course, if neither parent is shiny or a shiny-capable non-shiny they'll never produce shiny offspring.
Of course, since you have a guaranteed encounter with shiny Gyarados, which can learn Mimic by TM in gen 1 and gen 1 has a glitch that uses Mimic to make a wild Ditto copy your Pokémon's DVs it's not _too_ hard to get your hands on a shiny Ditto to use for breeding at that 1/64 rate.
In GSC, there are NPCs along the central road in Goldenrod that move back and forth in your path. You can eventually use Nugget brodge which is moderately better but requires a lot of flying.
Also very good insight on the shiny breeding, I appreciate it a bunch!
@@ntmaproductions The path I used was off center a tile or two to the East, but as long as you didn't slow down the NPCs would almost never step in front of you. They have default positions and only move randomly while you're in town with them, so you'd need to roll unfavorably like 3 times in a row for them to step into the path.
If you slowed down, like not immediately reversing direction when you hit the gate house to Route 35, they'd have more time to path far enough to block you however.
It's been a while, but I did quite a lot of breeding back in the day. Honestly I miss the orderly back and forth of breeding in the tile based games compared to the 3D games' "spin the thumbstick like crazy" method.
@@RikkuEcRud I always seemed to have bad luck and needed to veery every few laps. It's not a *terrible* route but ita not nearly as clean and optimal as later generations
God damn...
I love Pokemon...
I love Japanese food...
I love Anime...
I love Toyota and Honda...
I love Japanese Porno...
Am I brainwashed?
I mean, I am not Japanese but I sort of want to be Japanese.
Nipponese, by the way.
Nippon.
LOL
Some how back then i got a Japanese version from my friend; before the game even launched here in the states someone already ripped the rom ; back on windows 98 could have been 95 still for all i remember. i just remember playing it on a emulator from a floppy disk my buddy gave me for my 10th birthday;
Passing by once more to remind everyone that this is the best Gen 2 retrospect on YT
When going over the field moves you forgot to mention that Rock Smash has a chance of lowering defense. Which certainly adds to its usefulness.
I mean that's true but at 20 BP in Gen 2, it's still extremely rough. That's half of what tackle does, even if you get STAB on RS
are ya winnin son
Janine is lower level than all the other Kanto Gym Leaders because she's new and inexperienced
1:09:17
That Gastly looks so crazy with the Unown on top of it from the other layer lmao
I am certain that Crobat in Silver's team was purposeful. No evidence to back this certainty but it just makes way too much sense.
It's hard to say since he had it even when Crobat had a different evo method in the Soaceworld Protos, but I like to imagine that it's either intentional or a happy coincidence, given his arc.
6:57 tri attack is not a "niche case" it is basically the coolest move in the game
it's niche in the sense that it's rare to see in the single player and has a low chance of applying each effect- more of an edgecase than niche but still
49:13 take it back
@@realINTERNETFRIEND "i like how wigglytuff is constantly a shitty korean knock-off version of clefable it's fun"
@@ntmaproductions yeah i said that and it's true it's charming it owns
1:25:10 take it back
I was getting some stuff out of my garage, and noticed a game boy color laying in a box, so I took it out and found that it had Pokémon crystal in it. I was like “dear god” it was like finding the ark of the covenant, so I fixed the save battery and slapped it into my gameboy advance that I played sliver on 20 years before, and am have a absolute blast.
have fun :)
I was so confused when you typed in my name for the player 😭
Ledian’s “alien” aspects come from it being based on kamen rider/super sentai/power rangers aesthetics
Edit: okay its weird you knew the tsuchinoko for dunsparce but not the above; the later seems a lot more esoteric
I had a suspicion it was, but my Kamen lore might be missing a step in that it's hard to understand why it comes from Ledyba. Nice insight though.
Honestly not sure here either. Most likely a cultural aspect I’m missing but I think the above average fighting types (which is a low key stand in for justice) moves as the generations goes on reinforces the idea.
@@obviousalias132 A lot of Kamens are based on bugs, but to my recollection none specifically Ladybugs. Perhaps a designed backwards situation where a Kamen rider Bug Pokemon needed a pre-evo and the easiest solution was just... a bug
@@ntmaproductions I feel maybe something to do with the spots/stars but thats just speculation on my part. Since we are talking name origins and I just got to the part Mareep is Philip K Dick (Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep/Bladerunner) and also an anagram of ampere (and probably smushing Mary and Bo Peep together). I’ve always been impressed with how layered Pokémon designs especially having to translate so many so the puns work in other languages.
@@obviousalias132 iirc, an earlier name for Mareep also incorperated Dolly, the first cloned sheep- but it was deemed too controversial. Bur yeah, lots of really clever names
I beat Pokémon gold with just Furret a very long time ago I didn’t beat kanto because I didn’t know how to wake up snorlax I know how to now lol but the moves I had where rest sleep talk surf and iron tail
Oh my god this is so underrated. Keep up the good work man.
Bite/Crunch best dark move lmao
Crystal my favorite pokemon game of all time
I can't believe one of the version exclusive trade offs was delibird for gligar
life really do be unfair
Going over the head butt encounters with Pineco and Heracross were hilarious. I didn’t expect to hear such comments in a Pokémon retrospective 🤣🤣🤣
The hardware definitely held them back from their vision, but it’s a marvel they fit what they had in there at all.
The first time I played a gen 2 game my mom RENTED me a copy of silver from movie gallery. Got to get to about the 1st gym then it had to go back lol
lmao never heard of anythong like that before
Laying in my bed with covid, this is exactly what I needed to make the recovery more pleasant! Thanks for this!
glad i could help!
feel better!
Am I the only one who encountered Lucia in helix forest sometimes? Idk if that’s an actual fact and it probably isn’t but I think when I was a 7-8 yr old that happened.
Lugia. Damn you spellcheck
lol i think this may be a false memory because this game's code has been torn apart bit to bit and i can promise that shouldn't happen
This needs more views. And attention I hope it gets what it truly deserves. What an absolutely crazy good video! Hands down. Wow.
Thank you! It's been blowing up big time which is extremely exciting.
I’d like to technically add a 4th way to get stones in G/S/C
If you have a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2 and get far enough along in G/S/C you can transfer them through the Pokemon Lab in Stadium 2 using the Colour and Metal Cases if you have a copy of R/B/Y you can use the Missing No. glitch to duplicate those items, throw out 30 of them because the item in your 6th slot is duplicated by 4 times so you end up with 120 and to prevent the games from freaking out it’s best you throw 30 of them.
GSC were definitely peak handheld games on the GameBoy Color. If pokemon had ended there it would of been fine. Thankfully pokemon continued and we got so many ither great games. So many things about this game just hasnt been replicated before. The region of johto is beautiful, timed events are interesting, and day/night cycle makes the world more immersive. Johto is a region where yes you can get to the elite 4 in under 40 hours. But it really is a reigon/game where you spend time backtracking and exploring
This was great
I was about 9 or 10 when soul silver came out and id never had anything other than a 64 with mario kart. So my first pokemon game was beyond amazing i spent ungodly hours playing it. Then i got ruby and overplayed that and finally got emerald which i emulate on my phone at least 3 times a year with full play throughs😂
I’m a gay man and when you said at 27:38 that the poke ball that is suppose to work on the opposite sex doesn’t work correctly and instead works for the same sex is a GAY RIGHTS ball 🏳️🌈 I died laughing! 😂😂😂 thank you for this video
This video is awesome man! Keep up the good work
thank you! i have one on HGSS as well
I hate breeding and shiny hunting always had always will I just suck at it don’t know what I’m doing every shiny I ever got was out of pure luck just playing the game
I can't imagine I world without Pokemon it seems like a big staple in my life and without it I don't know who I would've been
Big brain move- start a new team after johto and stop complaining about level curve or pokemon coming late.. suddenly it plays like gym leaders are elite 4 and its awesome
I got gold and then got crystal when that came out my brother had silver I remember I loved crystal man I recently downloaded a emulator on my phone just to play crystal I really wish they would remake crystal for the switch in let’s go style or even scarlet but I’ll take it in let’s go style
Maybe the first 8 gyms r weaker cuz the games longer. We woulda been ok tho. Just grind
the opening music just brought floods back from memories of being a 5 year old...
There’s something so comfy and mysterious about the atmosphere in Gold
Can you plz do pokemon gen3?
eventually, my friend. gen 1 is on the way
Your appreciation for Whitney and Clair has earned you a sub sir!
lol based
keeps saying if he came earlier he'd be a good option, clearly this wasn't written by a woman
Check out Pokémon Crystal Clear. Best Pokémon rom jack of Gen 2
I remember on gold I chose cyndaquil as my starter and for crystal I choose totadile
I love this video, very fun how you go through each area in order and break down everything as you go with your own thoughts on everything
Thank you!!
should i watch a 3 hour video about one of the goated games ever made ? oh without doubt !
Crystal was my first Pokemon game, back in 2nd grade. I beat it with a Feraligatr that knew Surf, Cut, Strength, and Hydro Pump. And a Kadabra that I didn't know needed trade to evolve. But he did learn Zap Cannon which was cool.
It took a long time to get past the E4 the first time, let me tell you. And I never did beat Red, not until SoulSilver years later.
Lol my original party was a Typhlosion named AAAAAAAAAA that had fire blast, dynamic punch, cut, and strength, a Nidorino because I never knew about the once a week Clefairy dance, and a Poliwhirl, because I equally never knew how to find Water Stones
Slowking reminds me of a King Julian from Madagascar 😂
I wish I was like the video, long and good
How do you send items from RBY to GSC through time machine?
you don't im a dumb liar :(
@@ntmaproductions hey bro worries! Solid videos tho!
@@TheXeroLink thank you!
@@ntmaproductionsa bit late, but I just assumed you meant to trade down the pokemon, evolve it in gen 1 using the stone and then trade back up. Which is still a hassle
How many pages of script did you write for this?
200 odd between this and the hgss video
@@ntmaproductions daymn, it's easy to forget how much work goes into these kinda videos, also with the editing which was really nice too in this video
@@Koijn2K thanks a ton !
You instantly sold me on this video once you said heracross fucks
Wonderful video, thanks for taking the time to make this. I only wish you would have mentioned how Scizor can earn Baton Pass through breeding, making him a pretty nasty pick with Swords Dance, which buffs Fury Cutter and Steel Wing - both STAB - on the rare occasion the player wouldn't be better off passing those Attack buffs onto another Pokemon.
I love Scizor, but I gotta at least attempt to keep the pace
Wow, those been 3 tough, but good hours to spend my life with
"i may have gone too far in a few places"
-George lucas
I actualyl quoted that in the RBY video lol
@@ntmaproductionsi just saw it in the description and had to quote it
man ur channel is looking great, movies and pokemon thats what i like lol
@@Killer... appreciate it killa
Just letting you guys know I'm back watching your awesome pokemon content but also that I'm watching your great content. Keep up the great work
@@jacob_swaggerz Colosseum Sunday or Monday ;p
A 3 hour retrospective about 1, more like 2 games, I have played in 2001/02/03 about 900 h (Silver 250 and Crystal 650)? I'm all in! Nice Video!
1 game, 3 times :p Enjoy!
wow this is a big review, thanks! I'm so excited to watch it all. But maybe i'll wait till I finish HeartGold and Crystal. I always wanted to own Crystal but couldn't afford it as a kid.
I like this video I dont care how long it is, but how dare you explain pokemon to me a 25 year old franchise like im a fuckin child I appreciate the video but do no question anyone's intelligence ever again if someone is watching a 3 hour video on pokemon best believe they know everything your explaining and more!! Damn..
You right. I agree. I made a lot of mistakes here. I'm always trying to keep improving. Thank you :)
In my opinion a youtube video doesn’t get better just because it’s really long. I’m not watching a UA-cam video that’s 3+ hours. Maybe next time try to keep it a bit more brief and light. This just gets too boring.
thank you for your input?
Can you do a history of the pokemon games you've done retrospectives on? Your content is awesome and love listening you this stuff.
maybe someday oras soon 😅😅
A 3 hour video with all of your hard work and editing and you only have 274 likes...What? >.< Great video, you've EARNED my sub.
thank you!!
It’s my sleepover and I get to choose the movie.
I love Gen 2, it’s just so… I have no clue it was like the Gen 5 of pre Gen 5 in how it looks, the Semi-dynamic sprites are cool, the gameplay is fun if repetitive, and I can honestly blow through one of these games in like a week if I’m busy so they’re like popcorn gaming for me
Edit: I’d just like to respectfully mention you seem to miss some things, like tackle not having 50 power until Gen 5 or shadow ball being physical and thusly amazing on the Ratata line, which is just a minor thing I don’t hate the vid, I absolutely love it
I'm sure there's plenty I missed because I was all over the place lmao. I did mention in the mechanics section that all Ghost moves are physical, but I don't think I specifically applied it to Shadow Ball's insane coverage 😅
@@ntmaproductions it only does because with it Ratata can have better coverage in the case of rock types and other types that normal can’t really steamroll for one reason for another, so it matters at least to me, if you think I’m overdoing it tho that’s fair I’m a no-life teen so what do know lmao 😂
Edit: also the heart disappeared when I edited the comment and I 🥲
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 lmao you right, shadow ball is nasty on all the normals that get it.
@@ntmaproductions yeah, but if you’d like my discord or some shit so I can give you my two cents since most the games I own are pre split I can help you because I’ve honestly grown to understand it so very well it’s low key unhealthy lol
@@gabrieldevoogel6225 if you'd like sure
Sickk job bro this is awesome!
Thank you!!
Lol how did that Earthquake 1HKO Espeon? Even after reflect??
6 curses for x6 atk, STAB EQ on the fairly solid Atk of Steelix, and Espeon's fairly low defense. Red's team also doesn't have comp DVs, but even if it did it'd be a really splid hit despite reflect.
Good job
i took the thing you said on timestamps perhaps a bit too far