Gaffer & Gear 71 - Godox S30 & Affordable Dedo Accessories
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
- Gaffer & Gear 71 - Godox S30 & Affordable (Dedo) Accessories
Looking at the Godox S30, a daylight Dedolight equivalent and all of its quality accessories that fit, and work superbly on Dedolight products
Thanks to Tecart for supplying the gear
Tecart.com.au
Index:
00:00 - Intro
01:03 - Overview of accessories
03:21 - Godox S30 Price
04:00 - Negatives about this light
04:57 - Battery operation
05:36 - Positives about this light
05:48 - Colour point accuracy
06:37 - Color rendition
07:09 - Optics
08:18 - SHOOT OUT with Dedolight DLED Turbo 7
09:40 - Flicker free
11:14 - Technical specs of the S30
12:00 - Projector attachment shoot out against DEDO
13:20 - Accessories
13:20 - Barn doors
13:52 - Gels
14:50 - Soft box
16:10 - Scrim (Wire) kit
17:50 - Projection mount
18:45 - Gobo holder
19:13 - Gobos
20:09 - Testing projector optics
21:33 - 63mm Projector lens (wide)
22:36 - Telephoto lens
24:20 - Iris
25:07 - Prodigious with brands, my lesson - Фільми й анімація
😂😂😂, Syphilis under a microscope, wonder what number that is in the Rosco catalogue? 😄.
Brilliant review Andrew, they keep getting better and better.🍺
LOL
Good gear most can afford starting out, and it's upgrade-able! Thx for the review, opinions, & testing Andrew!! Makes it easy for the rest of us :)
Cheers 🍻
Wow. What an awesome demo. Thanks! The tariff line was priceless!
Nice review video as always! If I could express a wish, I know how hard and tricky it is to get the privilege of watching a "behind the scene / making of" of your pro gigs. but man-oh-man, these videos that show how things are done, and how the creative process works from a real set are soooo precious. I keep crossing my fingers we'd see more of those. thanks!! :)
Next episode
Wow just stumbled upon your channel... You made my day, and all the future ones! Thank you so much for your thorough reviews! Why the hell UA-cam hadn't recommended your videos on my feed before!
Thanks so much for this! I've been scoping out a small backlight for interviews for a while now without forking out for the Dedo's. I've found a great price on Ebay so will pull the trigger!
I just bought the s30 and the 85mm lens, will likely get the other lenses, thank you for this rundown, very helpful! And I agree, it's an excellent light for the price!
The S30 is awesome! Add in the optical lens and its even more amazing for both photography and videography. Well worth the price in my view. :) also I love the video! Some brilliant technical specs. Thank you
Thanks for sharing this. It's great to have more affordable attachment options. Kudos to Godox!
Thanks for making us aware of the battery-brightness issue and the fan sound. The Nanlite 60B is still the winner for me.
Great review. Time to buy myself some of the Godox accessories for my Dedos, been renting the projector lenses too much.
Really good review Andy. Looks like I’m out to Northcote for another Godox.
"I think that's syphilis under a microscope."
Seems about right!
All jokes aside, really quite impressed with these units for the money - particularly the projection unit which is frankly incredible for the price. Came here entirely sceptical that these would be any good as they're so cheap, but you're right on the money regarding kit prejudice.
just ordered, thank you for the overview! So helpful
Andrew, thanks for saving me hundreds of dollars. Picked up a couple T7 on a demo sale from my rep. Been able to trick them out way cheaper with your info.
Another first class review. I think every fixture I've bought in the last year has been based upon your reviews. Every one has been a winner. I notice that a 60watt version is now available with DMX, essential in my line of broadcast lighting. Do you have a review in the pipeline for these. Please keep up the fantastic work
60 is coming in for review
Thanks for the heads up on this light, it’ looks like a great deal.
Great review of a product I am purchasing today. Thanks
At a later point in time may get the s60 also
Great information, well presented. Thx!
I did not realize they basically make Graduated ND filters for lights, or the thirds scrim. I can think a lot of uses for this but like you said evening out light intensity of say a wall back light going up or down a wall could be really nice instead of getting a hot spot near the source. Really interesting to note.
Its really bang for buck... good build quality too... love it... of course i had to Get One after seeing the review...:)
Note to anyone with Dedolight DLH4s these optical attachments don't fit. The lip on these is too thick.
Do godox S60 please, Andrew. Love your reviews!!
Has anyone tried hacking a lead to run the S30 off D-Tap 14.4V. If so, did it run at full brightness? P.S. Fantastic channel Andrew, keep up the great work!
hi, thanks for all those reviews... i was wondering if you were going to do a Godox S60 review to compare it to the S30 or the dedos equivalent.
With the projection atttachment and the 150mm , it looks on paper superb for macro work and phantom high speed shooting...
I bought one of these Godox projection lens for use on my classic dedo 150w... there are a few issues; the flange on the projection barrel that rest into the barn door holders of the light is not milled to very tight specs, mine has varying thickness which means it only goes onto the light when in a specific orientation... and this extra thickness prevents the projection barrel from being rotated... i think the fix is for me to carefully file down the flange. There is also a thin rubber piece that sits in the grove of this flange which i think is not necessary on the Dedo and I removed it (perhaps it for use on Godox own s30). The other issue is the 4 shutter blades are not so cleanly perfect so that you see some unevenness because its not a perfect straight edge... this goes away once de-focused. May try to run some 1000 grit sand paper along the edge. Given the price these are not deal breakers, i ordered a 2nd one.
@John Roche I did end up grinding down the flanges on the 2 godox projection lens i bought. they now work perfectly on the classic dedo 150 as well as on my S30's. Neither would really fit the 150 straight out of the box.
Thanks for the amazing reviews, best around definitely! Would you mind to share the output with the telephoto lens? Im considering this to play with mirrors and refletors so that would be a important point for me. Regards!
I don't have access to one at the moment. This whole Covid19 thing has stuffed up distribution and manufacturing. So my order still hasent arrived.
I would love to see how you dedos/this unit in your daily work. I love the concept, but I am lacking good ideas on how to use them, as they are not as bright as Lekos or JoLekos.
Mostly product shots, the bulk of my work is corporate and commercial sector. A lot of work I do (if we are not competing with any daylight, so say night scenes) tends to be at around 800 to 2000 ISO. But this is mostly due to budget situations in Australia. Often my dedo lights are running at sub 10%.
Hi Andrew. Another great review! You convinced me. Just ordered one with all accessories. What gobos do you recommend? Some that you grab again and again?
I use dapple effects all the time, just to break up back walls. But no one more than others.
This was helpfullll!
Gracias,desde ARGENTINA
Super helpful video! Any idea if this will work with the Dedo parallel beam adapter?
sorry this has been asked! curious if anyone has tested by now though
Hey Andrew thanks so much for this video (I watch all your videos) quick question. Would this fit the DLH4 lights? I think the DLH4 and DLED7 have the same sized attachment frames at the front of the light?
Many thanks! :)
Yes
Hello Andrew! Great and helpful review as always. I'm currently contemplating between getting a couple of these and maybe a projection attachment in the future OR a set of Aputure LS Mini 20s, which are quite similar but have number of differences (7500k vs 5600k, 20 to 80 vs 6 to 55 degree beam angle, full power vs 1/3 power when battery powered). Unfortunately, due to differences in bundle ingeridents, Godox set of 3 lights is 300$ pricier than the set of Aputure ones.
What would you recommend among the two as an addition to an all-arounder set of lights?
May be worth holding off as aputure have a 60 watt bi-colour unit releasing this year that can take a projection mount.
Great run through. I guess the S60 version is even better?🙏🏾
Do you know if the dedo beam intensifiers would work on this and if so which size would you try? the one for dled3 or 7?
Hey Andrew! Great review, is there a way to cut the light like the blades on the Aperture Leko? That seems to be the only difference, what a cool and inexpensive piece of kit.
This only cuts using those separate.blades, it is a pain to do
@@gaffergear got it thanks!
So helpful - I am about to byt one of these ;-)
Just need to be sure I understand correctly: Do/can you use gobos fra Rosco with this (and it has to be the m-sized right?)? Can you please link to the one you show here? Thank you very much in advance ;-)
Yes you can use the Rosco gobos with these, as for finding an exact Gobo their web site is awful. I would see if you can find a distributor that still has a printed catalogue
Are the Godox accessories also compatible with the classic dedolights like DLH4?
Great presentation. Will the Godex s 30 mount on other makes of stand? I need one with a smaller size footprint, thanks and cheers from Vancouver, B.C.
It will fit any industry standard small light stand
“Unless your your president Tweets a tariff” - best line I’ll hear all day, for sure.
i laughed out loud haha
Excellent, have you done Any review for godox s60
@@videocasetteTV I think I have only reviewed the s30. That was surprisingly impressive
I almost bought a Dedo...Whew! If this thing can use the Dedo's intensifyers, it would be awesome! Do you think it will work?
Wondering the same thing 3 years later about the 60x now hah!
When you mount the projection mount, do these lights have to be in spot or flood? Does changing the spot/flood focus of the s30/dedo affect the projection optics and overall photometrics? Seems like the projection mount may be designed to take a collimated light beam?
I haven't used them in a long time so I'm going by memory, but I think the dedo needs to be spotted up about 1/3 to get best light levels and even beam.
You can go to a tighter beam and create a hot spot that can be used for effect with some gobos.
What about the Godox s60? It has other control posibilities like the godox light app or dmx. Could you make a review about it?
Thank you Andrew. Looks like a great light for money. There is a brand in the US called "Clar" . Would you know if that is the same unit? Thanks again.
No idea. Most Chinese lights are re-branded for US market.
Thank you!
I heard from a rep at bhphoto that they were having quality issues and godox recalled a whole bunch of them and then Corona virus happened which has severely disrupted supply chain from China.
This is great! Can this be used for wedding monogram?
It hasn't really got the power
I also picked up the framing shutters , did you have a chance to test those?
On one of the shutters it had a bit of a rough edge in a shap projection due to the paint job. I got around this with some very very fine sand paper and sanded down the cutting edge. Then perfect.
Hi, Andrew! What was minimal distance of focusing with 135 lens? Thanks!
About 1m
It looks like the power connector is a mini xlr. Will a regular mini xlr cable work as an extension to get the power brick further away?
It was so many lights ago for me that I just can't remember, but I think it's a safe assumption that the transformer would be 100 watt so you would have the head room for additional lead.
Besides the obvious difference in power, how would you compare this to the Aputure Spotlight? Most interested in the optical quality of the beam. I'm guessing these babies are a lot lighter as well.
These are vastly superior optics. Especially if your subject moves forward or backwards of the focal point with a beam edge or cut on them. Almost no colour fraying at all, you have to be looking for it and it's less than a mm wide.
Gaffer & Gear Thanks a lot. Your videos are very very helpful.
Hey, did you ever get a chance to see/use Godox SL60W?
I bought these because I didn't have the money to get an Aputure 120d ii which is 10-12x.
Yet to see one in the flesh
Great video, I have the S30, it’s really great value and works really well on batteries.
Quick question, do you know if the Dedo parallel beam intensifiers work with the S30?
Cheers
No idea unfortunately
Ever get an answer to this?
@@jonathanmasters2178 nope… I’ve not really looked elsewhere but I might now you mention it..
It would be awesome if you could test the godox projection attachment using the godox sa-17 mount adapter on a Nanlite Forza 500.
This mixed brands kit is on my wishlist right now.
Could you?
I think I have done that combination in an episode
Gaffer & Gear Thanks I’ll check
Would the parallel beam attachment from godox fit this light and if so would it work do you think? As you said the optics on the dedo are still superior. But i wonder how much of a difference it will make for the parallel beam adapter.
I also really hope godox makes 60W or 80W or 120W versions of this!
Should work fine. The dedo optics are better on the edges of the beam only, more even and far less drop off, so I'm sure the same would apply with the beam adaptor
@@gaffergear part of me wants to get an s30 and a parallel beam adapter to try out... Lol but then my wallet doesn't want to be the guinea pig for the trial!
@@directoradamg I know that feeling
@Gaffer & Gear Can the Dedolight DP Eye attachment be put on the Godox lenses? Are the lenses from both brands compatible with each other's projection mounts? Also, do you think there might be issues with having the Godox projection mount on a classic tungsten Dedolight from heat?
Not sure about the eye attachment but I doubt it, I have been told that the lenses work on the classic Dedo lights with the heat because they are actually slide and video projector lenses so they were designed for way bigger wattage than 150w
@@gaffergear Thank you for the quick response, and on a relatively old video too! Are the Godox and Dedo lenses at least similar in outter diameter at the front end (for the same focal length and aperture) and at the mounting end that goes in the attachment? (allowing one to put one brand's lenses in the other brand's projector)
@@pvalin they are different diameters unfortunately
So what is the name of common mount size between this godox and the dedo? Prophoto?
Does with work with bowens mount source 0:32
Great Video, what do you think of the Dedo DLED-4-D or the DLED-4-Bi can't seem to find too much info on them, can these lights including the DLED-7 run off 240 volt supplies? Thanks
Yes can run off 240.
I would love a set of DLED 4's as on occasion I am running my turbo7's at sub 5%. But I can't justify the cost. The main issue with the DLED 5's is the cable connectors, I always see these at repair shops. I think for an owner operator it would be OK, but it looks like the plugs don't hold up to rentals as people pull them out wrong and damage them.
If your running the DLED7 off power supplies go for 24v. I had 12v for about two years and it gave me problems in the long run.
@@gaffergear Thanks for the reply, looking at the godox projector attachment and hope you could tell me if the Dedo DEDOLIGHT DP400KFS projector would fit the DLED-4-BI light or would you still buy the Goddox projector attachment? for the dedo? and will the Goddox unit fit the dedo DLED4 series lamps?. Hope you can help, as I have found out Dedo has very little info as to product information. I have found your videos fantastic.🍺🍺🍺
@@colinturner6628 dled4 is smaller, so they won't fit
If you run them on vlock batteries do they give full power output?
Yes
What kind of mount do it use? Will it work with the nanlite forza 60?
Barn door slot mount, won't mount on a forza 60
I am guessing the Lux @ 3 metres must be with it set to flood ?
Yes flood, and average, not hot spot.
Holy shit... Anyone know if they're planning on coming up with some parallel beam adaptors for these?
Don't those from Dedolight fit?
@@imiy Sure, but the Godox version would be around 1/3 the price.
Even though I will feel guilty (about Dedo) I am about to buy one of these (cheap price). Could I possibly ask though is the attachment is fully metal and glass, no plastic. I ask because I would like to use it on a a DLH4 some times perhaps as well and a photography light with a tungsten modeling light and if there is any plastic I should just stick to Dedo.
Should be fine, not plastic, solid metal and glass
@@gaffergear brilliant, thanks so much. I will get one now, with the attachment but just the one because of the fan, as you pointed out. With out your review I probably wouldn't have, as my perception was the same as yours, before you did your review. Thanks mate.
@@gaffergear Got one of these today. It is good but the fan noise is too loud. I will keep the attachment but am sending the light back.
Do you know if the old Dedo light projector fits on the Godox? I have an older Dedo light and projector, which is only 100 faint watts, and I want to upgrade the light source.
I think so, it was a long time ago that I tested these
will this spotlight mouth fit on the godox sl60?
No
I believe you can find these in the US from Adorama and their private brand CLAR. $200 for the S30, same light.
Are the Dedo's a lot quieter?
would the parallel beam attachment work?
I've been asked this a few times and I'm not 100% sure.
Fantastic! I have been looking to buy some daylight dedos but was held back by the price at the moment. Well this is but a fraction of the Price of a dedo so guess ill be heading to the store on monday:) Thanks!
Is the fan noise than the Nanlite Forza 60, can you remember???????
Is the fan noise more noisy........I mean!!!
@@reynoldsc Forzal is quieter
@@gaffergear Thanks for taking the time to reply. Wow.......these companies need to rethink their cooling options as noisy fans are just aren't going to work when audio is needed!!!
Hey Andrew,
does it come in a self-contained carry case of sorts?
The projector yes, the light no
they actually sell a kit with 3 lights + accessories + stands + bags
@@danielecernera222 where can i find this kit?
Zhen Jie Ho here in Australia www.kayellaustralia.com.au/product/7352-godox-s30-3-head-focusing-led-light-kit?categoryId=1848
@@danielecernera222 Ah ok, it seems that Godox has rolled out the kit publicly, it's also available on BHP. Thanks Daniele!
If this light is dimmable, is there any need for scrims?
Good question!
Yes, if I get a DP that wants to shoot at f1.4 then I'm stuck at the bottom of the dimmer (5% to 10%) with no room to trim.
Scrims enable me to get some range back into the dimmers.
@@gaffergear Makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the reply!
Daniel,de CYL RENTAL Buenos Aires.
How bright is it though?
11:55
@@gaffergear That’s what you get for skipping through i guess lol. 324 lux!!!! Isnt the aputure spotlight mount like 60,000
@@tonelessbod can't remember the numbers, but the Aputure 300D and spotlight is about 6 or 7 times brighter by memory. The Dedo DLED 7 is a disappointment for light level, especially for the cost, and the S-30 is only 30 watt.
The Aputure is no where near as bright as the old school tungsten units so I was disappointed when I first used it.
The 30 watt light is brighter? Crazy... maybe it's time to sell my DLED 7
Not if it bi-color, or mono and you run it at 100% of batteries
@@gaffergear fair call, but I never use battery power anyway so don't see any real advantage in keeping the dedo, aside from the bi-colour
@@cagf2013 interesting being a gaffer now. Part of the job is knowing when to sell your expensive gear, and replace it with better, cheaper gear, at a profit.
Now I totally want syphilis under a microscope.
Better than Covid!
Excellent, made me laugh; syphilis under a microscope!
I’m absolutely not getting that kind of output from my s30 compared to a dedo7 bicolor. The dedo is MUCH brighter. The build quality on this light is also very very poor and it won’t last long. Retiring immediately.
Send it back, me at be faulty
@@gaffergear dang, thanks! I must say that the projection element is really pretty much though
And then they came for dodo.