Gaffer & Gear 121 - Aputure 600d Pro
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Gaffer & Gear 121 - Aputure 600d
Review of the Aputure 600d including the pros and cons, with some comparisons to the Forza 500. Index Below
00:00 Intro and quick overview of the light
00:49 Cost and what you get
02:41 The head lead
02:29 (Quick talk about power v HMI)
03:34 Maximum length head lead (comparison to other lights)
04:41 Fan Modes
07:29 The Hyper Reflector
07:38 Brightness (Lux)
08:21 Shootout with Forza 500
09:37 Battery operation
13:10 Weather protection
14:43 Build quality
16:19 Control options (wireless)
17:14 Built in battery charger
18:20 Flicker free
18:30 User interface
19:10 Manual operation
22:12 DMX operation / testing
25:09 Lantern 90
26:00 Thoughts 600d v Forza 500
27:04 Technical Data - Фільми й анімація
If you're an aspiring professional and you're not watching this channel, then you're cheating yourself out of at least a 10 year head start on experience and free practical education when it comes to gear and what to look for in different situations. Excellent honest review.
Facts
As a DP this is my favorite channel on YT. The world needs more gaffers life you!
Just found Andrew's channel. He should be getting 10s of thousands of views on each video. He's basically the video version of Newsshooter's reviews.
That anecdote about how the control unit charges batteries silently so you can sleep in your hotel room is why I love this channel.
*hits pause* 10 min into the video and you're already bringing up point no one else have talked about. Really thorough work, Andrew! *hits play*
I swear, it feels like Aputure should pay to get early units to you for suggestions on the stuff you bring up. You're a treasure, Andrew - super informative reviews.
Best review of the 600D I've seen. It's great that you're not afraid to point out the flaws, whereas other reviewers tiptoe around them.
100% agree
Well Aputure will listen and improve.
@@gaffergear Exactly. If they're a smart company, which they definitely seem to be, you're doing them a favor by pointing out the flaws.
Andrew is by far the best and most in-depth technical reviewer, pointing out every crevice of a product and how it applies to everyday situations.
An Aputure package with the 600d, F10 and 10" barn doors in a single custom case would be a very attractive package. Stack 3 or 4 of them on a hand truck and wheel them on the set.
Aputure should have a suite of Fresnel light kits for each of their bowens mount lights. Light, Fresnel and barn doors in a custom case. One case for all of the pieces. The number of cases at setup and teardown makes a huge difference.
Thorough, detailed and honest. No BS just hard facts. Only reviewer I trust. Great work.
This was incredibly well put together. I've been wanting a review from someone who's familiar with higher end cinema lights and you absolutely knocked it out of the park.
Thank you as always for your thorough review of this light!
The 600D review I was waiting for!
Once again another GREAT REVIEW!
In short.. NEVER BUY TILL YOU WATCH ANDREW'S REVIEW.
Love to see Aputure's innovations and disruptions in our industry. IMO it is great to know that rental house quality is now in my budget and I can't wait to see how other manufacturers respond!
Amazing Review Andrew, Informative and concise as usual and bringing up some really great points with the head lead length! Thanks so much.
Man, I love your reviews. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us. I especially like how you touch on real world use cases and potential pitfalls. The issue with regards to different fan noise frequency is something I hadn’t thought about. Thank you!
Another awesome review. Thank you! I preordered my 600D and F10 Fresnel... it’s will be here later this week and I’m so excited!
Finally the review I've been waiting for.
Extremely valuable and thorough content! Thank you for your work!
Your videos and information are incredible - I honestly learn something new every time I watch one of your reviews. Fantastic
review!! - I hope Aputure sees this - best detailed video review I have seen
Outstandingly thorough review. Thank you! I had to check the sub count twice. I was expecting 145k! Keep up the great work!!!
lovely content! please keep doing what you are doing, andrew!
Aputure needs you as a consultant. Great video.
So excited for your review! Yes!
Another amazing review, keep up the good work. Just ordered my own 600D due to your convincing review, thanks again!
Congratullations for the video. Very clear and sharp
Hands down the best light reviews. Thank you for making this channel.
Another great product breakdown! Thank you, sir!
Amazing, really thorough review. Thanks!
Love this review. So much good points made regarding details of the product, details that ultimately make you decide if it's the right tool for the job. I hope Aputure sends you their new Amaran COB lights. There's countless value in watching a true professional analize a tool while thinking of a real set scenario.
Finally this review came out! Watching now
Thorough work, I was interested in this light, but glad I watched this video to see the limitations before I buy it.
Another very good, honest review. Thanks for all your diligence, Andrew!
Incredible Review! You're so thorough and you're opinions aren't biased at all. Thank you!!
Best review I see So far Top quality Info love it
Thank you so much for your work! Love your channel!
great review as always
I was waiting for this review :D 🙏
Best 600 D review out there!! Thank you mate.
what an in depth review! FANTASTIC - THANK YOU - and ho smart Apurture is...with that jumping in different increments etc. so well thought out!
You never fail to impress! Even though I am not in the market for a super powerful cob, I wanted to watch because I never come away from one of your videos without picking up a valuable tip-or two as to a light itself or the power systems available or complexities with DMX system commands or such things as buckling light stand warnings! Aputure should pay you consultation fees before they release their fixtures, you would help them take their products up to the ultimate professional level! 👏🏾🙏🏾
Thanks for the review! Its perfect. Yesterday I saw another review, from another gaffer...and sorry, too much hype and nothing useful. You said about negatives, thats the important part. Everyone knows about the positives.
Your review is honest. I decided to buy another one Forza 500, because: Its lighter, cheaper, easy to mount it overhead on a boom. Better reflector system. Yes I had issues with the knob on the stirrup and had to replace it with Manfrotto adapter . Aputure has great build quality and firmware, true. In my country, the difference in prices are 50%+ over Forza 500, but the light output is not twice for the double price. If I run two F500 together, will be fine.
Great review! I'm always waiting to hear your perspective on the aputure lights before I buy them. Usually to know if I need to wait for second batch like with the nova. 👌
You are very thorough Mr Lock, thanks for the upload.
thanks for the comparison! I just want to buy one of these units, and for a week now I have been checking youtube for this movie ;-)
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I am so happy I found your channel. I have been watching a lot! Your reviews are based on actual use, not somebody reading from the manufacturer's specs.
A more thorough review is not possible, the best reviews by far.
Thank you for your good work!
Hello Andrew, again and again you prove yourself to bring the most interesting and useful reviews about lightning gear anywhere. You never disappoint commenting on crucial details that most reviewers seem to forget or simply ignore because they don't use the equipment on a regular basis on professional environments. I wanted to highlight that you asked Aputure the reason why the batteries would not give you 100% of the power the 600 D can deliver. It seems you are the only one who realize these little things that and the end of the day will make a WHOLE difference while in the field. Hopefully Aputure will let you know when they release a firmware that will make this light more powerful while running on batteries.
I would love if you gives us an update when you get the Fresnel.
Brilliant review thank you. Great to hear from someone who actually works in the industry rather than a youtuber.
„If you are smart enough to cross a road, without somebody holding your hand ...“ may I borrow this analogy? 😁
Much better review than mine, per usual. Maybe I can just hang up my review hat and stick with the walk-throughs and other rants🤪 Thank you for setting the standard.
Luke, we love you. Keep doing what you’re doing. I really enjoy watching you rig window bounces outside your house. Makes me wish I was tall.
No Luke, you stay busy now. We trust you. We need to see you work/play with these tools.😉
@@barrygoyette Ha, ha!
Thanks a lot for your vidéos, exactly what I m always looking for
12:40:00 Haha! Aputure looked into the future and saw that you would gerry-rig a solution! Love you channel!
Great job! Cheers, and thank you! Don't forget to check back in with us when you have some on-set experiences. I'd like to hear you talk about how this fits in your kit and benefits you the most. THX
Once I saw the announcement from Aputure, I immediately have been checking your page for your input ever since. You are one of the only trusted sources I use for video reviews of gear out there. Thanks for all you do, cheers mate.
Thank you for that battery explanation! I was sitting here wondering why you weren't using 26V batteries for the 100% output....sure enough a minute later you said why.
Spot on Andrew... This is what I like about you... You bring experience to the table unlike most that doesn't even mention the hotspot...
Man, this video puts all other reviews of this light to shame. I want to know how it stacks up to HMIs and the format 500 not a basic retelling of what apurture has already said about it. thank you for this awesome review! Answered all my questions like always
Totally agree, Andrew is without competition. Aputure should hire him as a consultant before they make any new product.
I love your videos! would you consider do a series where you talk about which lights are the best for different situations ? For example lets say you have to film an interview and need to choose a light, would you bring a Light mat, Tube Light, Hmi ect
Thanks for sharing!!!
I love this light. I want 3!
Thanks for the information and in-depth review. One thing that annoys me about this, and the 300d ii is that they don't include a 'fire' effect. Even though I feel like they have said you can do it in the past. Anyways, looking forward to using one of these some day soon!
Awesome review, now I know.
Its build quality is crazy. I love that I can use my Bowens softboxes and reflectors too.
Awesome stuff!
Always appreciate your perspective from the professional's perspective.
It's Master Class review
Good Work sir
Great review. Hope they do something about the fans in the next firmware update. Bottom 1% drop off shouldn't be a problem through any diffusion, so not a worry. Hope for new batteries & firmware change soon, too.
Firmware updates adding to the fan capabilities is apparently coming around March, from what I've read.
@@MudreFilms Cool.
Very nice sir 👌
Just for the record, Aputure released a firmware update that allows you to select the fan speed on the 600D. You can choose between Smart Mode (Auto), High, Medium and Low. So you can disregard that particular "con" listed in this video.
Great! Thanks
Excellent work.
Can you provide any links to articles or videos that show how to correct using gel? More specifically, any video or article that shows if you have a delta uv of say, +.0024, then a 1/8 Minus Green gel is recommended?
I love these videos specifically when you speak to the color quality and accuracy. Keep up the solid work!
I’d love to be a Gaffer after I finish Uni, but when I look at your fabulous lighting collection, it’s a little daunting to think of how expensive all that gear must have been!
You wouldn’t/shouldn’t want to go into being a gaffer straight out of uni. Get work as a spark, learn from experienced gaffers. The job is much more than just setting lights up. It’s about being safety conscious, working collaboratively with other departments, relationship with the DoP and interpreting their vision into reality. Just owning a truck with some lights is a portion of the job.
You can also work as a gaffer without owning any gear. But I agree with other comment - start as a spark/electric and learn from others.
What a monster! I miss tube lights from Aputure. Seeing how well they’re doing, it is, to my knowledge, the only fixture type they don’t have yet.
Aputure tube lights are coming. I saw a video from a convention in Asia and they had one on display.
I firmly believe that Aputure should allow to review their lights and upload the videos before anyone else does. I believe that will help bring more views to your channel and possibly more followers. You deserve it because your reviews are the most thorough and clear on UA-cam.
I had this light for about 4 weeks before the review. Work got in the way if me getting this review out on time.
@@gaffergear Sorry, Andrew. I understand. Your reviews are so fantastic that I basically watch the others just because I am curious, but I do not make any decisions until I hear your opinion. I am sure that Aputure knows that as well so I was surprised you were not the first. Again, apologies for the comment. I imagine that you are equally serious running your business as you are with your UA-cam channel and of course you must get tons of work.
Merry Christmas for you and your family and a very happy new year.
@@osoriony One reason my Aputure reviews are always late is they ask me about my test results. I tell them all the things I don't like, usually within a few days I get a firmware patch to test and see if it fixed my issue. Then I test again, sometimes another software patch is required, and more testing.
If I reviewed the light, as it was when I pulled it out of the box, no patches and firmware updates, it would not have been good enough for me to review, but two weeks later Aputure got it running rock solid. This delayed the review by about a week.
@@gaffergear Hello Andrew, by the way my name is Juan Osorio. I know my profile only shows osoriony. I will change that. Thank you very much for explaining this. Aputure should give you the lights 2 or 3 months in advance so all the process takes place before they release the product. I would rather watch your review first since it's always the most complete and in depth. I have been watching more reviews in the last week and still yours is the one that didn't leave anything out.
Thank you very much also for the advice about using the golf cart's battery. I haven't done it yet. Do you have one available? Can you make a video showing the Aputure 600 D Pro just running on batteries and showing or telling us what happens when you used 14 Volt, 26 Volt and 28 Volt (if possible), also a golf cart's battery. I heard that apparently Aputure is planning to release a power station to solve these issues. Do you if that is true and when are they planning to do so?
Can you also record a video with the new Fresnel and new barn doors? and with the spotlight? I know I am becoming very greedy! 🙂 Sorry and thank you very much again for your help and your time.
Thanks Andrew, I always learn something from your videos. Great note on the variable speed fan for sound recording. 2 questions - you mentioned testing flicker to 1/17000.. was that with the light at full power? Our unit is showing some flicker at 1/6400 when it’s dimmed.(and none at full power up to 1/71000!). Also curious whether you tried the Forza reflector on the 600d to see if that evened out the beam..it would be a nice option if it worked.
I forgot to test for flicker dimmed, most will flicker way down low on the dimmers. Yep the Forza reflector is way more even, but I didn't note the lux
@@gaffergear what we’re seeing, and it’s not that concerning, is Flicker at any dimming level, when the shutter is faster than 1/5000. Really only effects still photographers and high speed video. Wanting to confirm it’s not just my unit.. Aperture support is looking into it but no answer yet.
Andrew, a big thank you from the other side of the globe (Austria) for this review. Very helpful for making the decision to put that into my rental kits.
It would have been interesting to see if the reflector from the Forza 500 would do a better job on the Aputure 600d than its native reflector. I found the evenness of the 600d version a bit disappointing because AFAIK the reflector on the 300d MKII has a more even spread. Looks like they went with a smaller diameter to better fit it into the bag?
And do you know if the new Fresnel lens will have a bag for transportation too?
I suspect you are correct about the reflector being made to fit the bag, that was my first thought. Yep, the Forza 500 reflector works good on the 600d.
I have no idea how they are going to package the F10 Fresnel.
I really enjoy and appreciate the thoroughness of your reviews. While I understand it's not practical to purchase or review all lights, I would love for you to dip your toes into other brands ecosystems.
What are our chances of seeing reviews of Digital Sputnik, Cream source, or Hive? If local owners or rental shops made them available to you would you be interested?
This would be veryyy interesting. Plus add BB&S, Cineo, and Fiilex to the list of companies doing interesting stuff in lighting.
Cream source is a very real possibility, they are just busy forefilling backlog orders and can't spare a unit for me. Hive was going to happen before the lockdown. I would love to test the fiilex Q5.
@@gaffergear That Vortex8 sure looks amazing. Hope you also get to review both Micros which are more in my budget range. I love that these lights have such a narrow beam angle since my plan is to use them with CRLS reflectors.
@@juandiosdado I never thought of that as an application for the micros. Brilliant idea
Thanks a lot for the Video! :) I currently have a Nanlite Forza 500 ... and i really don't know if i should keep it because i hate how loud it is ... soo idk i would be VERY thankful if you could make a in detail comparison of both. Selling a used light also would mean i loose money :/ so ... idk
Hi Andrew! Great review thanks! Just a few questions that I hope you can help with :
1 - How does this work with the 300D II reflector in regards to that intense hotspot?
2 - Does this work well with the Aputure spotlight mount?
3 - Do the barn doors for the 300D II reflector also work on the 600D II reflector?
I'll do numbers to make sure I don't miss anything.
1) I think heat could be a factor, but I haven't tried, I did use my Forza reflector and it was smoother
2) spot light mount optics are not great, but it sort of works
3) the felt doors would be a burn risk I think
hope they get you one off those new amarans to test
Yes, a set is on the way. They originally didn't think I would be interested in reviewing them because I'm a professional user, but I think it's a great starting kit for new players. I wish we had stuff like that when I started.
Wonderful review (as always), Andrew! If you still have the review unit, could you please test the current barn doors (if you still have them too) on the reflector dish to see if gels melt at 100% brightness? If not, do you think they would?
The old barn doors with a gel would probably not be recommended for this unit, hence why they built the new barn doors specifically for it.
@@MudreFilms They built the new barn doors for the new fresnel F10. Those do not fit on the reflector dish, hence why I was curious about the current ones.
@@pvalin Just found at 12:45 into the Live video Brandon V Le shared to the Aputure User Group on FB. He explicitly stated the Fresnel 2X and Smaller Barndoors are the accessories that are incompatible. m.facebook.com/groups/AputureUsers/permalink/4026246227407840/?sfnsn=mo
@@MudreFilms I guess I missed that when I watched that video last night. Thanks for giving the timestamp. I was really hoping to use them for the gel holder, for which I nicely precut and labelled a bunch of gels. Is there any word about some sort of gel holder that can attach to the reflector, yet still allow the heat to escape?
Fantastic review, best of the bunch as usual. Two questions:
1. Will you be getting (more of) these lights for your business?
2. On Newsshooter.com there was a rumour of another big COB light coming early in the new year - you know anything about that?
1. Depends on the Aputure F10 Fresnel mount for this. But I only need so many high powered COB lights, and I already own 6 including this.
2. I don't know for sure who it is.
@@gaffergear Probaly Nanlite/Nanlux 1k.
@@wsfvn the actual COBs have existed for some time, it's cooling them that is the problem.
Grt review as usual. Thx. You mentioned portability as the main reason to go for the Forza...but does the narrow concentration of intensity with the reflector present an issue for you in practical use with the 600dPro?
I don't use the hyper reflectors much to be honest, I mostly use bare COB with Aputure barn doors (because I love the hard shadows) or I use a fresnel for controlling the beam. The dish I use mostly if I need a hard back light, or if I'm bouncing the light of a ceiling, or going through a diffusion frame, in which case it would be ok for me. I would prefer it to be more even though
@@gaffergear Understood. Thank you!
One follow up, if you have time and don't worry if not. The 600D with the expected Frenel lens...what HMI equivalent would you expect (hope) that to be?
Can you make a video on how to read all your spectrometer graphs in greater detail? Things like how to measure how much +\- green/magenta you need according to the duv reading etc
Awesome review!! Were you ever going to finish that review of the Kupo grip? I just purchased a 300x and have been eyeballing the Kupo junior boom stand! Just trying to find the best junior boom for the 300x
Well the stands have all finally come back to me.
I just need to find the time. Hopefully next week.
I'm buying 8 of the combo stands tomorrow, so that gives you some idea of what I think of them.
As usual. Great reviews. Out of curiosity, did you ever give it try with the spotlight attachment? I know it isn't optimized for it, but was just curious.
It's very soft around the edges
@@gaffergear That's what I figured. But wanted to get your pro opinion as well. so it works sort of. Interesting. When stocks come back in and I pick myself up one, I look forward to seeing how my Aputure Leko and the lenses I have work on it.
@@rayt_visual it works about as bad as some HMI ones I've seen, so for out of focus breakup on a wall in the background, it's ok
Such great and thorough info. Thanks! Maybe I missed it, but do you have a review of the LS 600d Pro vs. the non-Pro version? My budget is tight but if the difference is significant, I'll save for the Pro version.
It's about 8 episodes away as a guess, Aputure has other products they want done as a priority
Hey man I would really appreciate a video and advice on best generators to buy. I’m looking for one as you advised but not sure what to get
Thanks again for a great review! Looks like this doesn't have fire effects? or can you access this with the app?
GreatGreat review. Can you review the 600d with the F10 fresnel bowens mount adapter and the 10" barn doors? What does the complete package look like. Will it work as a direct replacement for a high power HMI light on set?
Definitely I will be doing that!
Another great breakdown, thanks! Wondering if the Nanlux Evoke 1200 has caught your eye yet... any plans to take a look?
This is the most commonly asked question. I'm waiting for them to be happy enough with the light to send it to me.
I've had a beta in here last year, it was very good, but still a beta
@@gaffergear Ha, I bet! All good. I've gone ahead and taken the plunge, ordered. Look forward to your thoughts sometime.
When you review the F10 Fresnel with this could you do a test with the spotlight mount in terms of output and chromatic aberrations. I have seen some comments that the light output is not multiplied by the spotlight mount like it is with the 300d II and that the edging is worse. Also at some point a head to head Aputure Amaran 200d vs Nanlite FS-300 would be good :-)
Doing an episode on just the F10 would be boring, so good idea to include the spotlight mount
Definitely looks to be a superior unit to the Forza500, but at the moment a lot of Aussie dealers are doing a Forza500 + fresnel & barn doors + Forza60B for $2700. I think there's a lot of value in that if you can make use of a 60B in your kit.
Thank You very much! Could you do a review and a comparison with the Godox 600D. Thanks!
Godox 600D is on the way to me
@@gaffergear can't wait thanks!
Great review! Thanks. Started renting this for shoots now. Had an issue where, when running off batteries, it would randomly switch off. Fairly frequently too. Has anyone else encountered that? Was a pretty high humidity location I wonder if that could have anything to do with it?
I have received the fixture a few days ago and have to say the noise level (the unit came with the firmware update) is way too audible for interview session. I love when manufacturers pushing boundaries, Aputure is a flagship on that ocean of innovation. I am really disappointed that I have to send this back, it's not going to work for me. The light is amazing otherwise, but I can't justify a $2000 light that I can only use when sound is not needed. It's a great tool for music videos, photoshoots, exterior applications when hitting interiors from the outside through windows...for those gigs it's absolutely amazing. I would wanted to use it for interviews in larger areas where all its power would have been utilized but that would be way too noisy. I also really doubt that 'Silent' mode is 60% of full power as it advertised. Again, amazing build quality and if that double fan technique were implemented in this one too like in the 300D II. then I would have kept it. I watched this review several times before pulling the trigger on the unit, thank you Andrew for constantly championing lighting reviews. P.S.: It really amazes me that (the 600D Pro being on the market now almost a year) videos do not address the noise issue in detail. They could have saved me a purchase for sure.
I have two of them that get used all the time, and I haven't had any audio complaints (yet). I do sometimes use them with the Dome 150 for interviews, so they can be 2m away from the talent, however most times I'm using them as sun light through a window, so they are not near a microphone.
@@gaffergear I am fully satisfied with your review Andrew! I truly think your channel is the gold standard of lighting fixture reviews. My unit for intimate extremely silent interviews would have failed to deliver so I had to return it. For external purposes the light is flawless.
Fantastic video as always. I think I've decided on selling my Forza 500 for the 600d. Did Aputure give you any estimate on when to release the Fresnel? Best /Andreas, Sweden
I think it's early next year by memory
@@gaffergear Thanks! Did you do any comparisons with the light dome between the Forza and 600d?
@@andreasmansson4378 the 600d has enough spread to light a dime evenly, so it should be about 23% brighter as per the raw COB comparison
@@gaffergear Thank you so much for your answers and thorough testing. You're contributions to the community are truly invaluable.
Hi Andrew, thanks for the review. I know that this light will be (obviously) used in daylight settings for the most part. However if you wanted to CC it down to wither 4300 or 3200K, i wonder if the lights TLCI takes a massive dive to the middle 80's like the C300MKII does? Again many thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
I didn't think to take readings through a CTO. I'll get back to you with numbers at some point
@@gaffergear My guessing is that gel manufacturers (Rosco, Lee etc) make CTO gel for HMI lights as the mercury vapour and metal halides that are in different HMI lights are exactly the same as you can't change the compound! Manufacturers like Aputure, Nanlite and others all use different COB sensors that all emit different 5600K light from the bloc. I know that Lee do a 'Zircon' pack especially for LED lights for changing Kelvin but im not too sure how they differ from mono-block light to mono-block light. Many thanks Andrew!