Investigating O.J. Simpson: The Case for DNA
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2016
- October 4, 2016 - Investigating O.J. Simpson: The Case for DNA was the 14th installment in the National Law Enforcement Museum’s Witness to History panel discussion series generously funded by Target®.
The trial of O.J. Simpson for the murders of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ronald Goldman, at her home in suburban Los Angeles riveted audiences across the world. The debate into his innocence or guilt gripped the twenty-four hour news cycle. In the middle of all of this were LAPD Detectives Tom Lange and Phil Vannatter trying to seek justice for the families of two victims.
If only the RING Doorbell camera was around in 1994. 😔
What sucks is the Fed's already had that capability.
Puhleez … the defense would just make up some crap like, well uh Fuhrman put on blackface and starred in his own made up video to frame our civil rights hero OJ!!
With that dream team and jury he might have still got away with it.
Imagine seeing that
Or if houses had surveillance cameras like we do today.
They need volume leveling on these videos. Every time she started talking, my eardrums felt like they were going to burst.
NEVER TALK TO POLICE WITHOUT A LAWYER
HUH?
Wouldn’t have mattered in OJ case. His lawyers were going to pull the race card no matter what.
@@toughgirl6837 "the race card" didn't win oj an acquittal, Mark fuhrman's racism and corruption combined with a substantial lack of prosecuting evidence did. Thank you.
@@toughgirl6837 Yes, because of the race card, Ron & Nicole did not get justice.
That's the problem with a narcist, they believe they can fool the police and they will not admit defeat. It's in their nature to be arrogant. That's the definition of a sociopathy. They try to control people.
10 months of evidence reviewed and conclusions drawn by a jury in less than four hours. Ridiculous.
The glove, blood in Bronco, and possibly sock.
Well we now know that the jury conspired to vote not guilty in revenge for Rodney King and the LA riots. One female juror came out a couple of days ago and said they knew he was guilty but voted not guilty as payback for Rodney King. She also said that prior to jury selection the black jurors were talking to each other about what to say so they would be selected, and then they could vote not guilty regardless of the evidence. Now I wonder if Johnnie Cochran knew this in advance?
The jury made no effort to understand the DNA evidence. If they had, they would have learned that there was no one else who could have done it.
@@sportsmediaamerica Stop spreading unsubstantiated information. Can you explain to us how long it would take you to brutally murder 2 people and make it home to catch your flight in 15-30minutes?
@@dulaelba9589Everything that you mentioned was planted. The sock, the glove and the blood in the car. Thats the part of the story that is intentionally omitted by the media, but the jury was aware of. Furhman ended up taking a plea and 4 other detectives were sent to prison for what they were caught doing in this case.
When the comments are way better than the video..👀
lol
R-I-P Ron and Nicole~ You will never be forgotten!
Who are they again?
I'm not your mother, Joe.
Jack Johnson how is your gay lover OJ anyways?
Now OJ is gay? Ask your mother about OJ I am sure she can "debunk" your theory.
Johnson jacks off.
I could listen to Tom Lange all day.
Is Tom the detective that mysteriously walked around OJs house with a vile of blood in his pocket? I recall one of the Jury members( Ms Moran) stating that she was starting to side with the detectives untiLL det Lange was caught wondering around aimlessly withe vile of blood?? Who does that? The Jury were keen/ very sharp people....in my opinion, there were about 4 reasonable doubts ..
You must like to hear lies 😂
I’m a huge fan of his. His experience is beyond reproach.
Great video. Learned some things i didnt know.
Robert kardashians face when the jury foreman says not guilty explains it all. He knew for a fact o j was guilty and couldn’t believe what he just heard. He looked shocked not happy.
Yeah, I think his face said, "oh no! I have to continue this charade of being his friend."
@@hermanmudgett8830 I think it was more of. Oh shit I helped him cover up the crime and now this monster is free. What did I do?
@@taylordziczek1744 lol!
It was one of those moments of. “Note to self. Don’t let OJ near my family “.
Or cause he had something to due with it and was scared oj would start opening his mouth . Ever think of that?
I love the way Detective Lange tells a story! Keeps ya intrigued!
Langes the best! I trust what he says, i do. I would take Langes word over Simpson ANY DAY!!!
@@aethanfriday3568I hope so
thanks for the upload!
Retired Dect Tom Lange, thank you, and God bless you and your staff, friends & family for your prolific meritorious service!
Even without Fuhrman & the glove demo, that jury was NEVER going to convict!
Nope oj couldve said I killed them and it to it again .. Jurors we find the defend innocent
There was no evidence produced that pointed to OJ's guilt. No weapon, no eyewitness, the shakiest of time lines , no shoes, just a pair of gloves and a knit cap and theses clowns couldn't prove the gloves ever belonged to Simpson. And to bolster that point the gloves wouldn't fit Simpson's hand when he tried to put them on. This was a terrible case , a real nothing case.
The jurors got MESSED UP with that DNA trial that was ALL new to them and they JUST didnt understand a damn thing of it .. TOO technical ..
@@Jim_Harwood Those things would have been nice, but they had the blood evidence, the shoe prints, and motive. Blood evidence puts him at the scene, and in the bronco, and at his house. His blood at the scene!!! How does his blood get to the crime scene?
@@bigblock67camaro What is wrong with you people. Had you watched the trial you would have learned how his blood got to the scene of the murders. The jury heard it and they voted to acquit. They didnt even need the 4 hours but were afraid it would look bad if they came back in 10 minutes. Wake up and quit repeated these proven lies. The prosecutors from Clark, Darden , Hodgeman and Garcetti should have all been thrown in jail with Furhman.
Poor victims. Poor Ron. Just showed up at the worst possible moment. 5 or 10 mins either way and he may have missed the whole deal completely and maybe no-one dies. Still can't wrap my head around it all. Gruesome and unnecessary.
Shame on Simpson who was there at the wrong place, at the wrong time doing the wrong thing.
OJ waited Ron. That’s it.
RIH to Ron but he was there to get some bunz and ran into OJ
@@steelydanlover1972 Ron never had the glass's.
gerard guitarist omg get real will ya lol, ''poor victims" they were both involved with cocaine and dealing and involved with dangerous elements, this case is so much more than what you've been told, OJ simpson was framed, and those were drug hits, if you bothered to study the case you would know that, Nicole Brown wasn't the delicate little flower they present her as, she was actually really trashy, study her history and what she was doing, with her children present mind you, and OJ was dealing with that, she was using cocaine and had drug dealers and all types of dangerous elements in her world, actually listen to the 911 call where OJ is screaming, he's saying all of this, Nicole get's away with no responsibility at all and it's sickening, that was a hit done by 2 or more men and it was probably linked to Keith Zlomsowitch, director of operations at the Mezzaluna chains, who she was bringing around her home at the time there's even photo's of them, and Ron Goldman wasn't the boy scout the media painted him as, it's time to grow up and stop blaming OJ, he didn't do it, the media led you to believe he did
Great video!! I wish there was more!!!!❤️❤️
Plain and simple DNA was basically blood testing type.
Lang trying his best to explain what he couldn't do In court answer the questions.
Fuhrman pleaded the fifth amendment: why? Because he calls Black disparaging words. Never in the history of America would a cop plead the fifth amendment!, for calling Black people racist remarks.
Tom Lange is brilliant. Period. So was Vannatter. Gil Garcetti ........ in spite of his backpedaling and excuses since this debacle? No.
The jury was not allowed to hear testimony concerning Simpson's jailhouse confession to Rosie Grier.
Yes, Vincent Bugliosi goes over this with a video interview with the Guard who witnessed and heard the confession. Three things got Simpson off. The worst Jury ever, the worst Judge ever and the worst Prosecution ever!
@@vincentlem2534 This is one of the bet analysis that I have ever read.
Also, when you take a look at the jury, they see someone they hate, Clark, telling them to convict someone they love. Emotion blinds this jury from the evidence and any facts in this case.
@@vincentlem2534 And I would add Johnny Cockroach's masterful use of the race card and putting The LAPD on trial. I like Mark Fuhrman but his lying about using a naughty racial slur completely erased all the great detective work he did.
Magical.....absolutely correct....
Former LAPD Detective Time Stamps :
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Too bad they didn't have Dexter working on the blood evidence.
Guilty or not guilty would have made no difference...😁
it would have made alot of difference!! but we know vannater was carrying both ron oj and nicole blood around for 3 hours. he got it from the morgue. he had no busines doing that!!
Tom Lange only made one mistake and it was the most crucial.... talking OJ out of blowing his brains out in the back of the Bronco.
Paul H OJ is a narcissist....he’d never have killed himself.
And lying under oath
Love it, as I was reading it, I was thinking maybe u were gonna say them missing the blood drop on the back gate or not collecting blood that was dripped onto Nicole's dead back.
Friends have said he was probably heading to airport.he had cash and a fake mustache and clothes
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How did oj not get charged for kidnapping, weapons, cop fleeing? After the bronco chase.
More than likely the over confident, Ill prepared prosecution team thought the double murder was a slam dunk so they wouldn't need to charge him with the above charges relating to the Bronco chase. Financial limitations will be something to do with it also?
Kidnapping who?
@@B-ch6uk : I think ‘nobiggie’’ thinks OJ used Al Cowlings as a hostage.
@@elizabethpease947 True. Lange said that one thought that crossed the LAPD was that maybe OJ pointed the gun at AC at some point.
@@BurtonRdForever financial limitations? What? There are no financial limitations to charging someone with a crime. Wow, that's ridiculous! They didn't charge him because he wasn't fleeing. If he was, they would have brought it up at trial. It wasn't a chase. He was contemplating suicide, not trying to get away. It was more like a police caravan following him until he made his decision. They knew where he was because he told them. His friend was driving him. He wasn't kidnapped. His gun was legally owned. That's why none of this was used against him. It couldn't be
Great panel, well managed. I learned new things. Especially interesting was all the blood and DNA information. I heard about Lange's book Evidence Dismissed on an interview with Kato Kaelin (the Vlad interview and on his podcast). I bought it. I also have watched Kato Kaelin's One Degree of Scandalous which is a podcast but is sometimes on video on youtube. Also, the Vlad interview (DJVLAD? VLADTV?) of Kato on youtube.
really good moderator. usually they interrupt way too much and end up doing a monologue, so good ob!
N it in
I agree, I don't like how they usually ask a guest a question, interrupt during the answer and talk about themselves. The news people should be next to anonymous, maybe totally anonymous, that way they ONLY report the news, rather than offer their opinion of the news
Agreed. Usually other interviewers have a time limit on answers to a question posed, and they like the sound of their own voice too much not to keep interrupting interjecting their nonsense opinions. He was a great moderator here.
Darden said if he didn't have OJ try on the glove, the defense team would have which makes complete sense.
No-nothing Chris Darden has ever said, has ever made sense.
I agree with Clark, let them, then the prosecution could have had a better excuse to get him to try on the new pair
They shouldn't have had OJ try those gloves on. They should have had an identical pair produced, had a salesperson say on the witness stand that they were the same make and size, and a THIRD party should have put THOSE gloves on OJ, WITHOUT latex gloves underneath. Clark, Darden, Douglas and Shapiro have all said that OJ was play acting when he tried the murder gloves on.
Him "trying on" the gloves is such a joke. I have been wearing leather motorcycle gloves (which are as tight as the ones he used) and they have ALWAYS been hard to put on and take off,even with daily use.
He didn't even try to really put them on. You can see him making his fingers stiff and then he raises his hands to the judge like a toddler in kindergarten. The gloves fit,they were his size. He played it off good. If a cop would have put them on,they would have fit.
The victims need justice
They sort of got it in the long run. The Goldmans pursued OJ for years and the civil trial verdict led to the Las Vegas robbery. Not the same as death row or life in prison but some sort of vengeance for both Nicole and Ron.
I’ve read Clark’s book, Bugliosi’s book, Furmans’s book and Darden’s book but I’ve never read Lang’s book. I’ll have to check that out for sure!
Why would you read Bugliosi's book he wasn't even a part of it - and he was A NUT
Have either of you read baileys book? Or listened to pay McKenna? It was literally impossible to have done the crime. Plus all the so called bloode evidence showed up later than they admit. It's clearly a frame up no cases DNA all falls apart like that no matter what they say.
Books about the Simpson trial rated on Goodreads:
1. The Run of His Life 4.22 (over 8700 ratings)
2. Without a Doubt 4.22 (4500 ratings)
3. Outrage by Bugliosi 3.89 (2500 ratings)
4. American Tragedy by Lawrence Schiller 3.88 (550 ratings)
5. Evidence Dismissed by Lange 4.04 (228 ratings)
6. Triumph of Justice by Petrocelli 4.35 (111 ratings)
I have read more than just these books, but when you read somewhere, "Gil Garcetti told his mistress, 'We're going to have a black jury convict O.J. Simpson and that will prevent a riot,'" that's the story right there.
What's the background noise starting at 54:40 and goes until 54:50? It sounds almost like a duck quacking. Is it from one of the other guests mic?
How in the hell did O. J leave bloody footprints on the street side of the gate, when according to furman Lang and Vannatter and Kato he jumped the wall behind his estate
There where no bloody footprints at OJs estate. They found a blood trail of several drops leading from the Bronco to his front door. But no blood near the glove. No blood on his white carpeting, light switches or shower. The fence also had spikes. So if he jumped the fence and dropped the glove WHY was there no blood found in that area? Also when Furhman found the glove 7 hours later it was wet when it should have been bone dry. All of this doesnt add up
Bloody footprints at nicoles not his house
Jim Jim the glove could have very well been wet 7 hours later. Depending on the ambient temperature, humidity, material, and location. If it was found in the shade slowing the rate of evaporation. Leather also holds water very well unless it’s treated with a top coat.
No agenda just saying, I hope he didn’t do it.
@@Jim.Jim.32 -Allegedly from the Bronco to the front gate,none on the gate.
@@sc1338 i think the defense brought some top notch meteorologist to testify about the weather that evening and according to his testimony there was no dew or enough keep that glove moist and sticky as Fuhrman claims it was
Tom Lange is so wise. It’s a pleasure listening to him. Hell of a detective.
Tom Lange completely lied about Fuhrman's partner who found a lot of evidence. Lange should've been axed by the LAPD.
@@GenXer333 thank u 💪🏽
@@GenXer333 -Fhurmans partner had more credibility than Fhurman.???
@@GenXer333 that was Vanatter
In an interview this " hell of a detective" justified the police treatments on Rodney King.
He is a typical product of the LAPD.
That does not say he planted evidence or tried to frame Simpson.
This story should be a movie
Nah, nobody would believe such an outrageous, ridiculous story.
Lange really liked the left hand injury evidence he always mentions it.....but unfortunately there were 8 witnesses including the pilot of the plane who came out to get an autograph from OJ during the flight(youtube has the video of his testimony) 2 SkyCap, limo driver, Howard Bingham(Alis photographer) , and 4 witnessed in First Class all who were on the plane and stated OJs hands were not cut. So when Lange states the left hand glove at the scene and blood coming from the left side it clearly means he can prove it was OJ ,but those witnesses who saw him 40-45 minutes after the murder stating his hands were not cut messes his theory up. He really believed OJ did it but unfortunately his theory wasnt backed up by witness testimony.
This was also backed up by Chigaco PD. They found blood and a broken drinking glass in his hotel room. Lange was trying to set traps for OJ in that interview. He was referring to the small knicks around his nails...for which he did not know how he got them...not the larger cut. Lange is full of shit but what do you expect lang to say when they had zero evidence except the glove.
Here is why I believe that Simpson had the cuts on his hand before going to Chicago. 1) He told Michael Baden, his defense appointed physician, that he cut his hand before leaving to Chicago and it bled. 2) He told the detectives the very next day after the murder that his hand was cut and he "put something on it" before his trip, indicating it was bleeding. 3) His blood was found at the murder scene next to Nicole's dead body...and that was collected BEFORE Simpson had given his blood to the police. So why do I believe these facts and not the eyewitnesses? Because they weren't looking for cuts on his hands in the first place while at the airport; they had no idea what had happened. How many times would you look at somebody's hands and remember if they had a band-aid on it? Especially if the primary cut was on his left hand (OJ is right-handed).
mitch cumstein I understand your point but to say that EVERYONE he encountered at LAX didn't notice a cut on his hand is a big stretch. Also note Detective Lange himself (seen in this video)called the Chicago hotel and they verified the OJ requesting a bandage for his hand and broken glass in his room..Detective Lange said this himself. OJ signed multiple autographs while at the airport so his hands were visible. The passenger who sat next to him testified to looking for championship rings which would be on his hands and he said he saw NO cuts... The cut appearing after him hearing the news of the murder was also backed up by witness testimony by the Hertz employee who picked OJ up and took him to the airport. So in order for the cut to have happened prior to the murders means everyone was lying or overlooked the cut.
@@migi5659 "So in order for the cut to have happened prior to the murders means everyone was lying or overlooked the cut." Yes, and in order to believe the cut happened after, that would mean that OJ himself was either completely mistaken about his own hand wound or lied twice (for what reason I'm not sure). Plus it would mean that the Bundy walkway drops were somebody else's blood, and then once in the lab, were secretly replaced by OJ's blood without the original assailants blood ever being typed. So it's either that, or people didn't see something they weren't looking for in the first place. I guess you know where I stand. :)
@@migi5659 one more point to illustrate why I think your scenario is unlikely. When Oj's doctor examined him after the murder (Huizenga, not Baden) he found 3 cuts and 7 abrasions on his hands. Certainly this didn't come from a cut class in Chicago, right?
My thought have always been, if OJ would have done this he would have been a BLOODY MESS when he got back into that Ford Bronco.
There has rarely been so much blood evidence in a murder case.people get convicted on 1-2 blood drops all the time
It’s possible that OJ took off some of his bloody clothes & put them into his bag. But he left his bloody glove & bloody cap at the scene, along with some change, and dropped the other bloody glove in his room.
It’s also possible that OJ walked or ran home from the murder. He may have jumped into the shower and put his bloody clothes into the bag, and then ran back to grab his Bronco.
But make no mistake, he did it.
he had no bruising on is body after fighting to the death with a black belt in Karate. Also Nicole had a 55K a month cocaine habit that OJ ad to pay for. I watched a number of varied docus . Mrs Goldman was also married to a drug dealer M13, he is in fed prison for life
@@ceciliapreziose3783 wtf are you rambling about? There was blood all in his bronco, same shoe size in blood, cut on his finger that was still bleeding 12 hrs later, his demeanor, blood in his shower, sink, socks, runs from the cops with disguise and a whole bunch of other shit. Dude get in reality.
@@ceciliapreziose3783 there was no real struggle .Mr Goldman was in survival mode and had defensive wounds.you had OJ, full of adrenaline and rage, attacking Mr Goldman in small dark confined area
If all the big players for the People were as sharp as Tom Lange O.J. would be on death row.
This is great.
Towards the end of this video when Lang talks about the bags and the airport and the trash bin. That has always been one of the things that has bothered me the most. I feel like there is one instance in the case where the police work was crappy. So you have this murder, you had found the glove at simpson's. IN the early morning they at some point knew simpson got on a plane and went to chicago. Granted at that point the following morning they didn't think simpson was a suspect or that the blood they found was going to be a match. BUt seems to me that within the next couple days when they started finding blood all over the driveway and his bedroom, why didn't they send officers to the airport to where and about simpson was and and ask about trash pickups etc. Even if the trash had been picked up, within a few days they probably could have traced it to the trash pit. Because there was a small window in which simpson could have gotten rid of the bloody clothes. I feel like they should have tried harder to recover that evidence.
According to former Al Cowlings girlfriend Jennifer Peace Al told her that OJ did something terrible
And that they will never find that knife
I doubt OJ would deposit severely incriminating evidence in a trash bin at an airport because it’s risky
It’s better to secure a way that ensures that all evidence disappears forever
It’s anyone’s guess how OJ made all the clothes and knife magically disappear and I’m sure Al Cowlings knows where the knife went to likely be shredded and melted
Fair point
Agreed
See rob kardashians mouth drop when they said not guilty at trial. He knew what happened that night, maybe from the luggage he walked away with at Brentwood
@@JamesMacpherson1 I noticed back then
If the glove with my loved one’s blood all over it, my reaction to even looking at the glove would have been obviously hard to bear. The first thing that hit me was not the acting of the fit was his grin while being in contact with Nichole’s blood. That was so telling and made me sick to my stomach! His arrogance was deplorable and has remained to this day. The poor families, seeing the bloody glove had to be heart wrenching, certainly not a time for laughter.
Rhonda Sheldon Stop with your nonsense. Was he supposed to grimace everytime the name Nicole was mentioned?
Yea, was a joke trial, the jury was NEVER going to convict him..... the evidence was and IS OVERWHELMING - there is ZERO doubt OJ did it. People knew it then when it was going on and people know it now. Shame for Ron and Nicole! RIP
@@incidentalist If evidence has been tampered with then it is useless and there was OVERWHELMING evidence that is it was tampered with
@@incidentalist I love the voice of reason. I had heard a few prominent and experience attornies agree with you that the composition of the jury ensured that OJ would never be convicted. More specifically, this predominantly all black jury drawn from the city of LA would never convict OJ. I can entertain your theory its just that your silence when all white juries have been routinely burying black males is earning. Please tell me that you don't develop deaf ears and blind eye to the wrongful conviction of brown and black people by all white juries. Or do you convince yourself that under those circumstances that color doesn't matter and the all white juries are only basing their decisions on the evidence. Be honest!
I never noticed that.
They should have called Lt.Joe Kendra!!!! He would have solved this case the first day!!!!
Well, My My, My!
I love him.
The case was pretty much solved the first day. Unfortunately after the first day the trial had almost nothing to do with who murdered those 2 people.
@@spreadthelove77 Kenda*
GROW THE FUCK UP!!!
See Rob Kardashians mouth drop when they said not guilty at trial. I wonder what was in the bag he took from Brentwood when OJ returned
What BS a warrent to search his resident yet he can get rid of the clothes, and evidence, and wash away the blood.
The fact is the LAPD served us with doing what they do best. That is why OJ walked. Total embarrassment to law enforcement. Reno 911 would have done a better job.
Stupid jury plus terrible prosecution equals NOT GUILTY. O J left his blood at the murder scene. He was guilty beyond all doubt.
Rodney King...
@@mauricedavis1740 What about Rodney King?
THE CIVIL COURT TRIAL WAS A MILLION TIMES BETTER!! SMART ATTORNEYS AND A HELL OF A BETTER JUDGE!! THATS WHY OJ LOST THAT ONE!!
@@johndeagle4389 the prosecution was not “terrible”. They made mistakes but they were dealt a shit sandwich. Never had a chance with LAPD mistakes, the race relations and media at the time, who OJ was, a sexist, incompetent game hungry judge and the manipulative defense aka dream team.
I don' t doubt that the LAPD was able to use, let' s say, questionable methods.
But it' s hard to believe he did it in this case.
OJ Simpson was a big VIP with fine connections to high authorities in LA.
I can' t believe the officers and detectives would have taken that risk because there were careers at stake.
L.E. would have to start Framing him from the start at Murder scene Bundy ,,, Before they knew where O.j. Was at , and might of had a airtight ALIBI.
As someone who watched lots of his trial…. I could have convicted him. It’s the carpet fibers from his car… at the crime site. There were only a few cars with that speciality carpet. Lots more evidence. Lots.
For the people that matter the most, it didn't matter. As long as a reasonable doubt could be generated, the defense was going to win in that scenario.
The specifics of the so-called "conspiracy" was for all the low-frequency, peanut brand people that were cheering in the streets when the verdict was read.
Not even the jury believes that the evidence was planted. They only believed that they had a reasonable doubt and that's all that was needed to acquit.
@@chg1264oh please !...they didn't have shit, . thus is why oj walked
If you ask me it was a gay boy rage of jealiusy....Lange said the killer stabbed Ron many times after he was dead...if the killers beef was with Nicole the girl was wasn't she stabbed after dead many times....I can't believe he said that.
The attorney cannot tell a linear story. Maddening.
Excellent
I think that was one of the most insightful programmes I have seen on the OJ trial.
Please. It was PROVEN with absolute certainty these guys planted evidence to sway the verdict.
It wasn’t proven you dunce it was alleged! It was then bought by 12 folk with brains as small as yours
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@@muhannedk6763 The DNA did not match Jasons genetic profile. Just because Jason worked with chefs knives doesnt mean he commited a double murder. Also, no parent is taking a double murder rap (possible death penalty) for thier dumb ass child!
@@fatsonot181 _"If they say gloves had his blood"_ There was no OJ blood on the murder gloves. LAPD found a speck of OJ blood in the lab months later due to contamination (a tech spilled OJs reference vial).
_"only cut OJ had was on left hand finger"_ he also had a smaller less conspicuous cut that had healed. The large cut that was oozing blood happened in Chicago after murders.
_"why is there no cut on the gloves in the same place?"_ Marcia argued they fell off during the struggle
_"OJ didn't have lawyer but Jason did"_ OJ did have a lawyer, so did his daughter Arnell
Jason had anger issues but doesn't mean he dismembered his step mom and turned Goldman into a pin cushion. Nicole was seen arguing with 2 men an hour before the murders. These people had something to do with it.
No matter what evidence they could have shown the jury it wouldn't have made a difference. That jury had their mind set from day one
yes its called racism
Blacks are not racist, never had been .they are peacefUl and very reasonable and affable.
@@daviddavis3389 I sense the sarcasm but in reality times have changed...all you have to do is listen to chapelle...
They just got a confession in Florida prison from a serial killer
@@daviddavis3389 I didn’t know they are all the same so thanks for letting us know.
The blood source stopped in the back alleyway. He got into a car. One murderer, male, blood stopped in the back alley way.
The reason the DNA was dismissed was not the overwhelming proof to commit OJ but rather the confusing way it was presented. They just need to say it matched OJ but they never could say it that simple.
The jurors were stupid. Cochrane, Shapiro, and Bailey wanted stupid jurors who hated the LAPD.
And it was. Very pro-OJ jury by design. Horrible job by prosecution.
@@jamesmorgan2064 Yes. What kind of a prosecutor would ask a man with swollen fingers from arthritis while wearing plastic gloves to try on a glove that had shrunk?
@@johndeagle4389 the jury was not stupid. The prosecution messed up the case. I watched bits and pieces of the trial and they were not prepared at all. The constantly gave the defense outs. It was unfortunate because I believe OJ is guilty but due to the sloppiness of the Prosecution, OJ is free. OJ played everyone. Even his own lawyers. He played everyone, he played the race angle, the defense taking photos out and placing black/african displays in his house as one example, didn't fully pay his lawyers. He played everyone.
@@Reason_over_Dogma The prosecution was stupid too.
I'm confused about the oj's blood drops outside the Bronco and up the driveway, indicating the path he walked so if he walked up the driveway how did he drop the glove behind Kato's. I might not understand the layout but it doesn't make sense to me... can someone explain! Thanks!
The blood drops on the driveway where 4 perfect circular drops with no splatter pattern. They where dropped from a height of 2 feet. This blood was not DNA tested. The Bronco blood on the door handel was a small speck you could barely see. This might not have even been blood (wasnt tested).
@@Jim.Jim.32 oh okay... thank you
Ignore Jim's answers. He's from left field. Btw Jim, you are distorting the facts of the case throughout your blogging. @ Prissy; when OJ was in a hurry to get back home and not be seen he jumped the fence in the side yard. When he did this he accidentally bumped up against the wall which is the sound Kato heard. The thing everyone needs to keep in mind is exactly how many coincidences have to occur in a row for any rational, sane person to believe it's real or most likely. Or on the contrary, how many coincidences do you have to explain away for it to be even remotely possible that he's innocent?
@@ScottyClarke1 So OJ rammed his head into the Ac unit not once, twice, but three times? Also there was no debris on the glove.
@@Jim.Jim.32 - what does this have to do with anything Jim? Kato's testimony? When he was on the stand he wasn't sure about anything other than the fact he heard a loud bang(s) up against the wall. He seemed completely shaken on the witness stand initially. Regardless, if you jump the fence (very narrow) and either trip or fall, lose your balance, bang against the air conditioner or whatever its not unreasonable to think when trying to upright himself he was hands on with the air conditioner or wall hence the sounds to follow.
Re: the glove - if at the same time the glove fell out of his pocket and landed there or in your theory Fuhrman placed it there in both cases there was no debris so what's the point here?? It could have popped out of his pocket when he was getting up after the fall? It's not unreasonable?
But were back again having to explain how OJ was there at that time and why? Far too many coincidences to explain away for any rational, logical thinking person.
Lange is a brillant detective more should listen to him . The critical point is this The Timeline minus 1 hour or plus 1 hour
No, Tom, Chris and Marcia were NOT good prosecutors.
Why were the detectives in the video footage standing at the top of the steps, at the front of the Bundy Drive property not wearing booties?
L.A Detectives are corrupt.
What difference would it have made? None.
Booties come on now they could be wearing a space suit he was going to get off!!
Too stupid to understand dna, that is why they got caught planting it.
Here's the deal. Multiple beat Cops showed up at Bundy before Furhman and all saw one glove.
Yes!!
Exactly. And let's say that Fuhrman did plant the glove. Is it also an amazing coincidence that Nicole Brown had this exact same model purchased on her American Express card two years earlier? It's insane that people believe this planting theory.
mitch cumstein right? And F. Lee. Bailey suggesting that Furhman put it in his sock. I’m stunned that people think that Furhman could climb and jump a six ft wall......and not have that glove, heavy with blood in a sandwich bag, fall out of his sock! What are they suggesting he’s wearing, knee highs and braces?? Lol. It’s ridiculous. If it wasn’t so serious it would be hilarious.
2 beat cops testified to seeing 1 glove before Furhman arrived. Why would these 2 beat cops destroy their careers and pensions while at the same time destroying the ENTIRE case by saying they in fact saw 2 gloves?
Yes, Officer Riske and Sergeant Rossi (a beat cop? ummm.....) both testified to seeing the one glove there, though the LAPD acknowledged that fourteen officers had arrived at the scene before Fuhrman. Kind of interesting that of these fourteen cops, the amazing defense team couldn't find a single one who would testify that they saw two gloves there.
Good content but they need better lighting and camera angles. I'm surprised no one noticed this before going forward with this interview.
OJ had a injured cut hand yet they still did not use that as evidence.
There is no question of Simpson's guilt, it is clear and irrefutable...anyone with a minimum level of education and intelligence can see that...
Why? because he tried to flee in a bronco?
But he still won and its awsome. The justice sistem got its ass handed to them. They speak a big game but they aint shit
@@Jim.Jim.32 Why would he flee when being falsely accused of murder? Think about this for a while and give me your best answer.
@@miguelenriquez3309 Lets all hope when someone close to you gets murdered the justice system get it's ass handed to them.
@@alfeinstein4168 Because he was being railroaded. He went straight to LAPD immediately after landing even without his attorney. Hell, he even gave them a blood sample. A guilty man doesnt go straight to the police.
Fuhrman, by pleading the 5th, reinforced the idea that the evidence had been planted.
*_It was recently revealed Furhman made at least 1 undocumented trip to OJs. There was also evidence from an internal investigation that Furhman knew NBS personally. Either OJ dropped the glove or Furhman did_*
he should have just fallen on his sword and admitted the truth. I believe he used the 'n' word one too many times but I don't believe he planted the glove. He had no way of knowing if OJ had an alibi. With the mountain of evidence against OJ there were numerous other ways to convict but once the seed of doubt is planted...…….
@@ScottyClarke1 Your right Scott. What if OJ had been out of town for several weeks? Furhman didnt even know if OJ had an alibi! Case closed. Oh wait...I forgot. Furhman found the glove immediately AFTER questioning Kato. Who told him OJ had left that evening at 11pm on a flight to Chicago.
@@Jim.Jim.32Fuhrman not knowing if OJ had an alibi doesn't support your argument it negates it. Do I really need to spell it out for you?
100%....agreed
how do you get the idea that a person is a narcissist or a sociopath within minutes of meeting them...? doesn't make sense
They are paid to read people believe me they can tell
Lange is interesting to listen to
oops...I mean, good job, moderator!
congrats to OJ;
free and not guilty.
He was found liable for their deaths in 1997, and was later sentenced to 33 years in prison for armed robbery and kidnapping of which he served 9 years. Some innocent guy huh?
still free and not guilty regarding this case.@@Master-cf2vl
@@Master-cf2vlkeep coping
@@treeztophe is in real court now I don’t think he will be found not guilty 😅
The best commentary (based in reality) was Howard Stern. Stern in real time pointed out the defense lunacy.
Amazing bunch of guys !
OJ said, he didn't know he was Black until the Jury let him off !
Silk Boxing that thug was not black! Lol! He was just a giant baggie full of shit!
THAT WAS NEVER SAID.......THIS IS WHY U DONT LISTEN TOO THE NEWS MEDIA
Lange is awesome!
Agreed. Could listen to him for hours.
Lange is awsome.he's not being croos examined.
Lange is a liar and the jury saw right through him.
Hi it's OJ here, I was just thinking it's sure is good those little cameras weren't all around because I might of looked guilty...
This should have been longer
You all screwed up and lost it. You should speak more about the part, how he killed them, like talking just about both of victims the knife he used and the Motive.
Bugliosi would have put OJ away
He certainly would've. RIP Vince.
And for a long time.
Bugliosi's an idiot who lived off the fame of one trial.
@@imadbasayev8541 You may not like him and that's fine. However, I don't know how you can call someone an idiot that won 105 out of 106 felony trials and a perfect 21-0 in murder cases, none of which were ever overturned on appeal. An idiot couldn't do that. The "fame of one trial" when that one trial included at the time the longest and one of the strangest in American criminal history and a lot, if not most, legal experts at the time doubted that Manson could/would be convicted. Bugliosi was chosen out of an office of 500 prosecutors for this assignment as the lead attorney when he only had five years of experience. That level of assignment would normally go to a 20-year veteran. His office certainly didn't think he was an idiot and his track record proves it. Bugliosi may have been a lot of things, but an idiot wasn't one of them.
@@1981lashlarue
He's full of shit when it comes to this case.
Winning is easy with the resources DA's have, and the lack of resources most defendants have. In this case for example there were over 50 lawyers working on the prosecution and millions of dollars spent.
Watch her hand movements at 29:52. INSANE!
You can have all the conferences you want, there will always be reasonable doubt.
Someone tell Lange to read Steven Singular's book FFS!
Why would I want to take a book author's opinion over the lead detective who was there and dealt directly with the case? SMH.
Lange was the lead detective? In that case, never mind. O.J. definitely did it. And the world is that black and white.
@@cityonfiretakatoku8663 do you think it was premeditated murder or rage gone wrong
I watched the trial everyday after school I remember the commercial instrumental it was so so big at that time
Chloe Kit : What is a commercial instrumental?
@@elizabethpease947 when it’d go to commercial
The trial should’ve never been moved to downtown LA! OJ decided to live and raise a family in Brentwood, he should have been judged by his peers in Santa Monica, his jurisdiction.
@ 9:04 - Tom Lange stars in a program called: *"O. J. Simpson: Blood, Lies & Murder."* Tom gives his side of the story on the the trial and murders. Going over collected evidence, doing reenactments, etc. Just saw it on "cable" (FiOS, really) few days ago.
It also shows the crime scene photos and autopsy videos of the murders. Very graphic.
Two things: 1) Sequestration was a double-edged sword. The prosecution should have risked letting the jurors hearing from their community. 2) The Prosecutors were not liked by the jury. They were being asked by somebody they didn't like, to convict somebody they did.
That is a good point. If somebody you hate tells you to convict somebody you love, that seemed to be the case here. Also, emotions are stronger than facts, especially to this jury. However, a terrible judge who allowed race to overshadow evidence and a terrible prosecution played a big part in the verdict.
True. One thing I would add is that Ito didin't fully sequester the jury-they were allowed visitors, who had to have told them many many things.
Interesting point. And I think correct - the jurors did not like the prosecutors because unfortunately, many of them were steeped in their own prejudices, not only against the justice system but also law enforcement, and it's ugly but I don't think some were heartbroken to see that a white woman was killed because some of them saw her as a homewrecker and they laid the blame at her feet for Simpson's philandering, even when it was clearly something he engaged in. She was the white woman who broke up the black family. (their thoughts, not mine). Think of the Emmett Till case. The men that killed him were not convicted - also a travesty. But note how when people talk about that case they tend to attack the woman who said he whistled at her and then later retracted, instead of aiming full on at his actual murderers. There is a lot of misogyny in human beings that is very ugly. The jurors also did not understand DNA, in part because it was relatively new then but also because they were not educated or sophisticated enough to understand it, but also because I don't think they WANTED to understand it. No matter why the jury acquitted him, whether it was payback for Rodney King, etc etc., ,it will always be a terrible injustice to those victims and families. I've never seen so much scientific evidence in a trial before, ever. That's what makes it so numbingly stupid that he wasn't convicted. At least the life he leads now is one where he is ostracized from his former celebrity life. No one believes in his innocence.
@@vincentlem2534 I wondered if it had anything to do with the possibility that Ito had his own feelings about race and injustice. He was truly a bad judge. Just the worst. I also think about how the jury reacted very negatively to Nicole Brown's sister as she cried on the stand. Now here this woman was, in a trial where her sister was slaughtered, basically, on the stand talking about how she was abused, and what I heard was that they felt she was fake because she was CRYING. This was a toxic, ugly ugly jury from the gitgo. In my opinion the verdict itself was about race, not justice.
@@benzofrenzzz7377 Great judge.
I’ve seen video of Lang and vanatter entering the gate at O.J’s estate, and there were bloody footprints on the street side of the gate. But according to the subsequent investigation that wouldn’t be possible. Also if you stab two people to death, almost decapitate one of the victims, and you have a minuscule amount of blood in the vehicle you jumped into in alleged great haste to get back to your house before the limo driver arrives. Not possible
Exactly. Less than 1 centimeter of blood was found in the Bronco, about the width of your fingernail. The blood smear on the center console could only have had occurred if the center console was removed. This blood was discovered AFTER the Bronco was burglarized while at the LAPD impound.
The jurors made the right decision. The killer is Jason Simpson. You know the mentally unstable psychiatric patient with a history of attacking people with knives. FFS he was supposed to have dinner with Nicole the night of the murders and the incompetent lazy ass LAPD didn’t even bother interviewing him.
@@realchrisgunter Why no DNA of Jason at the crime scene?
@@leemcqueen500 When was Jason's DNA sampled to justify your claim that his DNA was not found there?
Apparently there were bloody show prints from the Bronco, into the house, up the stairs and dropped onto the bedroom floor!! Never heard that!!
Cuz he is lying.
The speakers put me to sleep. Goodness grief.
O.J. was a good actor and the trial had bunch of idiots so do the math. He's absolutely guilty!!!!!!!!!
nah he's innocent
@@jacksonteller3973guilty
Defense wounds on Goldman hands but only the cut on OJ finger. No bruises. Strange.
Seminole Nathan He actually had 3 cuts and seven abrasions on his left hand..read the transcripts from civil trial.
Well ive read some of the transcripts from that trial. I think all of the wounds were in the same general area.
I find it strange that Goldman had bruises on his knuckles from fighting for his life and OJ didnt have a black eye or something. Dont claim to know what happened but i always thought that was strange.
Seminole Nathan sometimes strange things happens for strange reasons .
Not that strange. You assume the defensive wounds were made by punching the killer. He could have been flailing around in the pitch black darkness and punched the fence or railing.
The only time I've ever contemplated OJ's innocence was cause of this fact. Goldmans defensive wounds are undeniable when they talk about "fighting for his life". But I have plenty of anecdotal evidence to suggest punching someone can hurt your hand more than it does someone's face or body. Other than that he's guilty for mine 100%, its overwhelming.
1:08:00 I heard the cap had fibers from the Broncos carpet also but judge Ito would not let it into evidence for whatever reason
Oh thank god.
No bronco when the limo driver pulls up then the limo is there when they leave? GUILTY!!
Testimony from OJ's neighbor says otherwise. This limo driver was all over the place in his testimony. Hostile witness
Jim Jim how so? Can you paraphrase his testimony for me? I’m not being sarcastic I’m honestly curious.
@@goodguynow He never said he saw OJ coming across the yard. This was what Marcia Clark claimed which was a lie. Limo driver said he didnt see the Bronco. He said he didnt notice it. Also his mom, an attorny, was coaching him what to say. If he was a credible witness his testimony would have been a slam dunk for the prosecutuon. However neighbor Rosa Lopez said the Bronco was parked all night. Limo driver may have been stoned.
The Limo driver was not OJ's regular driver . He was a last minute replacement . He showed up early ding dong and the gate was closed He drove around from one side of the house to another side .
@@goodguynow Jim is incorrect, I watched the trial hour by hour in full many times and also at the time as it was happening.
Allan Park testified in court that he was buzzing the gate, no answer, a few times, so rang his boss saying nobody's answering & was told to wait, as he was on the phone he saw a 6ft 200lb black man in dark clothing walk at a steady pace up the driveway to the front door & go in, then the hall light comes on, so he buzzes the gate again & OJ answers this time, saying he's running late he had just got out the shower & would be out in a few mins..
That's Allan Parks testimony, it's there for all to hear, if you watch the trial in full.
Has anyone thought about the dog, it was found with bloody paws in the street,the door was open, so if the dog saw his owner getting stabbed, & was loose, why did it not attack the "killer" to protect her?? I know mine would try to!
Is it because the dog knew the killer..? 👀Just a thought..
A very valid thought!
IMO: Even with a video, OJ would have walked free.
In this case, an unintelligent & biased jury did not understand the science and the expert testimony that backed it up. What they chose to do instead, was to say they didn't believe it. That was not their job.
This is the first time I learned about a witness seeing oj at the airport stuffing evidence inside a trashcan.
Watch Vincent Bugliosi 100% guilty video. 4 hours long but very good - the trash can witness is mentioned on there too.
The airport has videos ok from the time he arrived to the time he got to his plane.
Ok never once got close to a trash can.
These are more lies to take away from the fact that the lapd never did an investigation.
@@richardbradley322 The trash can witness came forward,9 months later.OJ was allegedly taking items from a small bag,why take anything out,dump the whole bag.
@@josephswabe5584 That's a load of bulls#it...Provide a link or shut the hell up with that crap...
@@josephswabe5584
Yet, no video was shown at trial, but two separate witnesses testified to OJ being by, and putting something in the trash can.
Where were OJs bruises from Goldman defending himself?
You are very start Ron fought like hell
and no bruises on OJ body none stupid people my grandmother knew Nicole drugs drugs drugs faye Reznit Drug Addict in Nicole home OJ was surporting Nicole entire FAMILY HE SUPPORTED THEM ALL FINANCIALLY
@@marthejacks6582 yet no drugs in Nicole's system at the time of autopsy? Get real
Ron was stuck in a tiny little area with a crazy, enraged man. He had no room to fight like hell. Those marks are mostly from his knuckles hitting the tree, or bars nearby
@@alyssamiller6292 That's some BS. You think he was punching the tree instead of OJ?
@@Meng776 it was OJ vs Ron. OJ had a knife. Ron had his bare fists. Who's going to have cuts and bruises?
Didn't the jury pay close attention to all the evidence?
@@gtspeedster watch OJ Made In America. Once the defense entered race, well that was all it took. Nicole, Ron were forgotten. The case became ALL ABOUT RACE!!!!
Wouldn't trust a jury, they often get it wrong.
@@gtspeedster 🤡
They ignored it
The Prosecutor's caveat: _If the glove has dried, don't let him try/It's bound to have shrunk, don't ya thunk?_
The limo driver sees a dark figure walking up the driveway from the other driveway gate. He sees the figure go into the house. The lights come on and then OJ answers the intercom. OJ said he was sleeping. Then who did the limo driver sees walk up the driveway? Nice job jury
They were NEVER gonna get a conviction... NEVER😒
Understand how reasonable doubt works? Prosecution lost that case
It wasn’t the Jurors fault they did as instructed
@@tanikahutcherson4839 They were instructed to disregard the evidence?
Alan Park testifies he doesn't see the white Bronco when he arrives and he testifies that OJ says, "I was sleeping" which OJ denies.
He rang the buzzer at Simpson’s gate for almost 15 minutes before Simpson answered at 10:54 p.m., saying he had “overslept … and he’d be down in a minute.”
Moments before hearing Simpson’s voice on the intercom, Park said, he saw a “6-foot, 200-pound” black person in dark clothing cross the driveway and enter the house.
case was mishandled from the get go a tradegy to the justice system
The gloves fit???
“Are you going to believe me or your lying eyes?😂😂
if you acquit yous dum as shit
@@jukodebuthey definitely made themselves look stupid buying into some fabricated narrative. They think that blood soaked gloves that shrink about 2 sizes can still fit. 😂🤦♀️
@@JCX-9 Nope. Nicole's drug dealers killed her and Ron then paid Mark Furhman to frame OJ for it for not paying Nicole's drug bills anymore. Nicole was a full-blown cocaine junkie that sold her pussy!
Love Rock Harmon💜
I counted how many times that woman said the word “right?” 50… WTF ??Why do women say the word “right “ after every sentence???
The fact that you picked up on that means you have issues of your own that you have to deal with.
😂😂😂😂
The blood/dna evidence speaks in volumes. It’s truly amazing that the prosecution couldn’t win this case. If it had been a normal person rather than celebrity I think the person would have gone to prison.
Planted contaminated
@@ntg_noah1785 planted nope 👎 and a lot was not contamminated. His blood drop was there period and blood in the car and show prints on the walk way way more do you need. Also there was motive he was the only one that was obsessed with her and followed her spied on her after the divorce . There is no other killer find me one? 😂
@@uram9440 The only blood they had was OJs blood,he gave them to test for comparison.Nothing else was found to tie OJ to the murders.
@@uram9440 Jason Simpson.
The rage is passed on. Jason also has a "rage disorder." The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
The real trial of the century would have been The United States V. Lee Harvey Oswald.
The OJ case was bigger!
not really. that case was so weak it would have been laughed out of court or thrown out by an honest judge.
So many unanswered questions
Tom Lange is a “tell it like it is” no sugar coating person. He has spoken in interviews about mistakes made during the investigation. He said “The defense wanted to beat the dead horse of mistakes made in this case. There is no such thing as a case without mistakes. There’s ALWAYS mistakes. Imperfect people who don’t communicate with each other, you’re going to get variations and different perspectives. So, the only thing the defense had was to try and discredit the collection process, discredit the cops for “sloppy” police work. By the way, if they DON’T bash the cops, they aren’t very good lawyers. It’s the way it is. We expect that. But, you can’t convict or acquit somebody based on mistakes made. You have to look at ALL the evidence.” I really like him!
"...the only thing the defense had"...
Police do sloppy work all the time. You have a bunch of ex military guys with no college educations, and expect them to know the job. To be a cop you should be required to be atleast 24/25 and Have a college education in criminology and sociology.