How should a Procharger sound? Is it bad? (Procharged Scatpack)
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Had a RIPP kit on my 3.6 WK2, and it more or less sounded the same. It’s 100% normal for the Blower to sound like that. There are different “trims” available for the kit designers to use, RIPP uses a “S” trim which is very noisy. Not sure what one you have, but safe to assume it’s inline with the noisy ones. What you hear is gear lash. At idle the rpm is not 100% consistent so as it’s bouncing around u hear that noise... when driving, it goes away. You are good bro, just drive and enjoy the power it makes. I know it’s a scary thing thinking ur Blower is bad, but it’s not. You will notice the Blower is going to change it’s sound ( gear lash, Blower whistle, all kinds of sounds) even after 4k miles, still was changing.
Enjoy your setup!
I've tuned many procharged systems and I can tell you this. The sound does change sometimes. Sounds normal to me
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Glad there was nothing wrong. As someone who is running a vehicle putting a couple hundred horses over stock on the crank. You are always waiting and listening for something to break. Hopefully you can enjoy the car now.
Also, that Z06 in the shop was very nice.
Bruh, That Tunner sees your number on caller ID, & takes a deep breath 🤦♂️..lol. Stay on them though man, you payed serious $, & you deserve to have it run, & sound the right way..
That’s the way they sound. Seems noisy to me but that’s normal.
I have the same one on my 6.2 with the helical gear set and it still sounds like a box of rocks. The hp gains is well worth it.
As mentioned on previous video, this is the way mine sounds as well. Yours sounds normal. If there was anything wrong you would have seen it in the oil. I think the noise changes have a lot to do with air density and temperature. I’ve had my Procharger for close to 9 years now. I’ve never had any issues with it. They are loud and noisy, but they are reliable.
I loved your question about the oil in the hose, btw. I was wondering the same thing.
I agree with Andre on the noise, some units have helical gear sets vs straight cut sets (louder)
its sounded right since day one. relax and enjoy the system.
You relax. He’s being cautious
@@msladek1385 better to be safe than sorry
Buddy that's just how prochargers are.... Unless you get the hellical cut gears that's what they sound like.
Can't wait for his next vid...
"I was driving yesterday and went to Thortons for a quick sub and a 40. When I got in and put it in gear, the letter P on my dash started changing to other letters. I called Serious, and forgot they were closed at 2am. I got a vid of it I will show now *3 second vid plays, cuts back to main vid and it's him street racing a Miata. The guys at Serious HP called me back, told them my problem and I guess the phone cut out, bad service out here" 😂😂😂😂😂 love ur vids man, and it sounds fine to me.
Lol you love the vid? You made it sound boring.
Hqen2000 yes sir, it is good and informative. Plus u put out vids daily which is great.
I don’t usually... it just seems like every day I’ve had stuff to make a video on lately. If there is nothing interesting going on I won’t make a video of course.
That pull was nasty I thought you were at full throttle, then you actually stepped on it lol great vid 🤘🏽
Lol I was waiting till I got enough speed where it would actually hook.
Best description from a prior comment, "Like a fork in a running garbage disposal".
Very accurate.
I would stop worrying about it, if it breaks the warranty will fix it, be positive and grateful. I am wondering what headers will do for it. I might get a scat pack soon
That silver Z06 is DOPE !
It was! I wish Chevy or Ford would make a good 4dr car.
Yeah i guess the closest thing to that would be the Holden Commodore VF that GM imported from GM Austrailia AKA Holden. They are a great car and they're pretty damn fast. Same place the Pontiac G8 and the GTO from a few years back came from, they were both Holdens too. But for some reason the SS was a failure and its a great car. We all know what happened to Pontiac. Ford Austrailia still makes the Ford Falcon, thats been theyre hotrod sedan for years. I think 2018 Falcon gt model is supposed to be a 5.0 V8 around 475 hp and 575 fp torque but i doubt we'll ever see it here because it would cut into the Mustang sales. If you've ever watched the Austrailian Super Car series race youve seen both of these cars. Some of my numbers could be off, im no info pro just a car fan lol.
Yes I watch it all the time. I really thought about the SS but the Scatpack is really a better car. 8speed vs 6speed and more power.
Looks likee a great shop and glad they took care of it.
First he said prochargers are broken in at the factory.. Then explains the noise change is because you have to break it in... Did I hear that right? 😒
mtthaclipkilla yea I caught that maybe that’s why he was pushing him to hurry up get the 3 year warranty I would’ve got it anyway I’ve heard ProChargers before and yes they are loud but I’ve never heard one sound this nasty
Really glad I found this channel, just as paranoid as I am lol, but very informative videos of a daily driver procharged car. Really enjoy this content! Makes me want to meet up with you for cars and coffee one of these days so I can see this thing in action! Subbed!
Clean oil is a good sign...get that extended warranty! ...keep us posted 👍🏻
I will.
I have a procharger myself, sound's normal to me. That's how they sound, you get used to it but yes I agree at times you think bearing's or something went wrong. Mine is waaaaay louder though so it's apples to oranges. When I first procharged I had the same thought as you, I think after break in it sounds different because I haven't had no issues whatsoever for the 2 years being supercharged. 660 to the wheels on a D1 is awesome.
Man this thing has to seem like a pain in the fuking ass at this point. I hope it all works out, I am not a fan of prochargers especially the way they sound, but if all is good just enjoy it :)
They’re noisy but actually most reliable of any belt driven boost systems. Turbo is more reliable.
Sounds similar to my procharger before I rebuilt it. The impeller shaft bent a tiny bit and caused the impeller to touch the housing slightly as it spun. I would send it in to procharger for an inspection
Very nice ride btw...awesome color!!!
I'm sorry , but that noise would drive me crazy
You can send a sound clip to ProCharger to put you at ease. I thought same way do but it’s all normal. Hemis idle low so it makes little more noise at idle. Check your videos of when you rev it slightly. You can hear it tighten up and quiet down. Don’t loose sleep over it. It’s fine
Dude. Enjoy the car man. You have a warranty so enjoy the fuck out of it. Happy for you man. Enjoy the car dude!!! Check the oil in it to make sure it’s at level. It’s fine. The dude that worked for the company itself said your good.
he made the procharger oil change sound so simple tell he had to change it.kmsl
That’s why I went with the Healey coil gears on mine. They sound like trash without them. Just my opinion
I watched lethalcamaro’s video and he had the same issue with his procharger. I’d hit him up to see exactly what was wrong with his. It sounds exactly the same as his issue
If it's colder outside the metal will contract a bit. Plus the air is denser. Maybe the tolerances inside the procharger change just enough from the contraction and the denser air to change the sound. That impellor is moving pretty fast...air gets denser, it changes the way the impeller reacts to it? IDK man... TBH it sounds like nearly every other procharger I've heard without a helical gear set.
Ive daily driven a d1sc for 14 years. That sounds like theres something clunking around in there unbolt it and send it to procharger yourself
Its funny when you said your wife noticed the noise she thought it was broken and I was telling you its because you didn't get the Helical Cut gears and you said "i like it wish it was louder" LOL got your wish. Yea i knew they were going to say that. Just one of the draw backs of the Procharger without the Helical Gears. Its just good and broke in. Glad they took care of you.
Lol I thought loud meant whistle loud! I guess I’m the only one
Sounds normal but I'm also around a lot of performance vehicles and you seem new to performance world. Nothing wrong with a learning curve.
Nah not new to it just new to this specific aspect.
Bearing failure is in your near future. If the belt is to tight it will ruin the bearing in no time
My procharger made the same noise as yours after 1000 miles. Then the seals leaked at 1500 miles. I rebuilt the blower replacing the seals and the bearings, switched to royal purple oil and now it just has the nice whine/whistle. There is no rock grinding noise anymore and had been running flawless ever since.
Wow. So you think the bearings are bad?
Hqen2000 I honestly think they might be on their way out. I know a lot of guys might disagree with me on that statement. But when I pulled off the old bearings on the output shaft, I spun them by hand and could hear a difference between the old and the new ones. I know the procharger oil is super thin which has a lot to do with the noise. I know there are prochargers out there with thousands and thousands of miles making that rock grinding noise and still working. I don't want to lead you in the wrong direction, but just wanted to share my experience.
I think that makes sense. So it’s bad but may function forever
Hqen2000 Yes exactly. Until catastrophic failure or a leak develops like on mine. I really like your car and build.
Still does not sound as good as the first video. I wouldn’t want my car sounding like that when I’m showing it off at a meet.
Lol I’ll have to go to cars and coffee and pop the hood and wait for someone to comment that the supercharger sounds like shit then I’ll know i was right
KINGKJ2REAL if ur "showing it off" at a car meet, there will be people who know cars n acknowledge cars r machinery n fluctuate in sound.
Bipolar Beast but there will also be people that don’t know
Hqen2000 If i heard your car in person i would give you a thumbs up. I like the procharger sounds and bov, don’t have to care what “non-car/non knowledgeable” people think
KINGKJ2REAL don’t care about what they think their just posers at car meets. Most of them drive hondas and fr’s.
I just put a D1X on my truck. Yours sounds nice compared to mine. From what I have learned. That's the way they sound. Power in incredible though. I like it.
Yeah once I got used to it and understood it, it doesn't bother me anymore. The main issue was it sounded different when I first installed it.
Hey man a cam and headers is one thing but a bunch of noise is another
Maybe a pulley or bearing?
Bro you seem like a very nice person and I feel bad that you are going through this especially when you payed a lot of money for an upgrade that you EXPECT to function as it should...not to mention you should feel satisfied with an upgrade performed on your car!!! I will search around for you and let you know what I find! Praying for you and have no worries it will work out
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Just checking in dude. My video is up and it's alot like yours was in the WRX. I'll be making an update video soon because I had no where to really open this stage 1 tune up. I also have no idea how to set those gauges in the accessport at all.
Lol just sit back in the car with the ac on and some tunes playing and mess around with the AP for at least 30 min you’ll learn a lot. It’s all pretty simple but there is a slight learning curve.
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I had a Vortech Supercharger on my little VW GTI VR6 and it always sounded different, sometimes it would chatter more sometimes less.
My only issues with it was that it was blowing a seal and oil would slowly leak down my intake messing up my MAF sensor. I had to send it to them about 2 times every year.
I had a 3 year warranty and just about 3 month before my warranty expired I noticed a different sound and I knew something was up. It wasn't the grinding noise it was reminding me of a SC on a Mustang whine, which never happened before.
Anyway when I send it in they told me that the hears inside were wearing out due to a missing oil seal, I guess when they rebuild it last time they forgot to put the seal in.
After replacing all the gears and the seal I never had problems with it. Had it for about 11 years before I sold the car.
I wouldn't worry about it, especially if you get that 3 year warranty they will replace it. And if something is really wrong with it you will notice it.
Thank you
I watched a video of a challenger I’m looking to buy with a procharger. It seemed noisy to me so that’s what brought me to this video. Pretty much all the videos I’ve watched and comments I’ve read state that’s normal so I’m probably going to go ahead and buy it. It sounds same as end of your video. Sounds horrible to me but my research shows they are very reliable.
From the looks of it they've been pretty good with you customer service wise I've been thinking about taking my Hellcat to them and I recognize those roads I live off the beltway and Blackhawk
They’ve been excellent with customer service honestly. They always see me quickly and are extremely knowledgeable and friendly. They don’t mind me just asking stupid questions which is always good. I’d recommend them personally
I have a V2 Stillen Supercharger on a 97 Nissan Maxima and did not make any of those crackling noises but mine was rebuilt before install. I was ready to get a procharger again but if this is the norm.....
I think your good to go bro. Enjoy your car if there is something wrong with it most likely it'll break within a year. Yull be covered anyways.
Sounds like my pro charger you good
Tow it that shit sounds toast!!
From all of the videos I've watched on Procharged systems (hundreds), that sounds about normal. Take into consideration the oil viscosity at different temps, then the "heat soak" that the metal parts absorb which slightly changes some clearances. That will explain the different sounds you are experiencing. Not, to make that thing hook!!! :D
HAD THIS PROBLEM RECENTLY TOO THEY SAID I HAVE TO CLEAN THE FILTERS 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I would just drive it. It’s been well documented that you’ve been having issues. So if anything goes wrong, they should fully take care of it
I hope it works for you but I would hate to have a nervous feeling every time I go on a road trip 500 miles or more
I’m swapping my 3.5 V6 in my G6 out with a 5.3 V8 from a Grand Prix GXP. It will be awesome.
Very.
Pontiac Maniac in my opinion. The g8 looks way better than a g6 but the g6 is lighter. A gto is kinda the mixture of both, just get a gto. G6’s seem ricey to me
Octavio_P all the I’ve thought about getting a G8, GTO or trans am but the G6 is payed off so I figured why not make it faster. Nobody would expect it and it would be cool to not have any debt.
Octavio_P the G6 is ricey if you get the wrong mods. I have an exhaust, new wheels, an air intake, headlights. And since I can’t do much to the 3.5 V6 it has I figured I’d swap it out for an engine that would fit and make more power. G6 now makes about 200hp Swapping a 5.3 into it will make it have about 300hp. And an American V8 is enough to make it not ricey anymore if it even was in the first place.
Looks like you’re in Houston 👀 Would like to run your scat pack 😊
You got the D1sc so its a great head unit! Do you know if you got the straight cut or the helical gears? That makes a big difference... Procharger is a legit company who deals with pretty much all the makes and thy stick with by the product. If there are any issues with them ive never heard of it being a head unit... Its usually a vaccuum leak that you have to chase down from a connection. Btw if you have the straght cut gears it can sound pretty crazy! But it should be all good! Love the car!
Yeah straight cut gears. I would have gotten the helical if I knew how it would sound
Reasons why i want a whipple on my mk4 instead of a procharger.still badass vid and car hopefully i'll own a purple scat pack along with my jetta swiper needs a v8 sis lol
Got this with the whipple on my Charger same thing it was quite when i got it but a month or two later it started making that same sound at idle goes away at more rpms checked the oil and its good i hear the sound is from the parts wearing in too
You’re making Serious HP rich lol
Love that noise lol supercharger life my guy supposed to be annoying chatter
I like that noise to. Don't mind it. But my Rotrex supercharger on my Lexus doesn't do that. Its completely quiet except for woosh sounds and bov sounds
@@davidtranmedia5112 it depends on the gears in the supercharger homie
Straight cut gears are louder
@@elevatedperformance i know they are different internally. But what I meant if centrifugal they are the same
That is not normal at all . Bearings r not good send back to procharger for rebuild
That sounds like what a pro charger sounds like. Lol. The whine sound with a mix of bolts rattling in a can..
I hate that sound. It’s a big reason I wouldn’t want one sadly. I’ve definitely heard that same sound on other videos with with procharged vehicles. This is an old video is it still running good?
It does sound a lot different from the first video you showed after install, almost like the bearings in the pulley are grinding. Quick question ..why are wearing a leather jacket when you said it's 81 degrees outside?. Like your videos though, keep em coming.
Lol I just got used to the jacket. I took it off later after I got hot
I know nothing about blowers but that sounds like bearing beginning to fail on the inside.
Kinda sounds like a rattle, as if something is a little loose, but dope vids man👍
It's suppose to take a couple months to ware and get acclimated to ur engine and belts and it could be it's mount and it's position or then let's could be the wrong size
Just wondering, did you build the bottom end? How's it holding up? Thinking about this kit.
Try a smaller pulley for more speed of procharger at idle
Not like that did you hook up your oil cooling lines properly
Sound like something loose or something need greasing ill call the maker of the procharger ask them if they product supposed to sound like a grinding noise but hopefully everything goes well
It will sound different when you turn up the boost, but after you get some more motor work done.. I don't know what you got done to it.. Is it cammed up?
Nope the only mod is the procharger it was on a bone stock motor with 6k miles or so
sounded jus like that grinding of metal
i probably recommend a front lip or ez lip for now to help with the scrapes
I’m thinking a front lip just gotta figure out which one to get
check out abaza_carbon on instagram! they make front rear and bunch custom lips for chargers
@@DadMods or do slipo. It will protect under you bumper
Those guys are probably annoyed lol
Ab ACURA they def look annoyed lol.
I mean... He bought something without any knowledge of what he bought but I guess you have to start somewhere I guess
lol why do you think i didn’t have knowledge?
I watch the lot of this guy's videos he definitely did his research before purchasing it is just sucks that hes going through all these issues hopefully everything gets fixed.
Hqen2000
Because prochargers are noisy which is a known fact. Me I would have watched videos of procharger vehicles read up on pros and cons ect ect. But once again everyone has to learn somehow
What fuel system are you running and what psi are you pushing? 6 pounds or 7 pounds of boost
Man that does sound grindy at the end. I will say mine makes some chatter as well just not like that. I might need a rebuild and 1800.00 sounds like a bargain from what I was told
Bruh, that damn thing is more problems than it's worth😠
Should have got a whipple if you wanted it quite
It's also time for a second opinion.....
Hqen2000 the best thing to do is Vortech LOL!
I may change my mind about wanting one. No disrespect, but that sounds horrible to me???
For sure remember to send in that warranty info.
Yeah I know I’m gonna try to do that this weekend
man it seems like you've had nothing but problems with this, kinda sucks cause it takes the excitement outta it. Hope all gets fixed so you can just enjoy it
Man that would drive me nuts thinking its something wrong with it. But I hope its all good and that's just the way it sounds. I'm no expert are anything an not sure if they are made the same, but the ripp supercharger is silent compared to this. But if they say its fine id drive the shit out of it lol
They cover you for 3 years for $50 Bucks....but they normally go bad in 5 years....🤔 WHAT .....
Sounds like youbhave straight cuts. That's your sound. If the flighting was even remotely bent.. it would have been destroyed by now
Just looking at your comments ...half say it’s normal and half say it’s not lol...🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️....Who to believe 🤷🏾♂️
Man I would pick a different shop that’s closer
My neighbor has a procharger on his scatpack it don't sound like that
Dmitri Chergibayev, is there anyway you can get your neighbor to allow you to upload a video of the way his SP’s Procharger sounds?? I’m really curious to hear a procharger on a different 392..if he says no, then don’t sweat it
If you can email me the video I’d put it up on the channel.
Hqen2000, 🙏
Dahm bro I hope evrthing sorts out for u I got a member in a mopar group im in that has his daytona 2017 5.7l daytona pro charged u can find him on rgvmodernmopar facebook I really wanna see u do some vids on your pro charged at the track against other people
those ramen noodles tho! lol
it sounded messed up on the video when you picked it up, yup still sounds like a bearing is cashed
I would also say... shouldn't of horse powered her... to max etc when she was first done for a while...
There’s definitely something wrong with it. As stated they probably know but just don’t want to deal with it. If you received a defective one I def wouldn’t go to these guys to have them install it.
Just the way it sounds bro, kind of a chirp. Not all prochargers models sound the same either.
if that is a normal sound i believe i would be looking for a new product from a different company.
What is that in the back ground at the shop are they having a live show or something lol
That’s how pro chargers sound. If that’s not what you were looking for you should’ve done more research
Your idle is lower now before it was definitely higer .The faster the idle = less noise .
That makes sense. Is there any downside to a higher idle? More heat when in traffic and idling maybe?
It’s good bud get warranty though
Hi ! Is your procharger always right now ??