Sounds a lot like Traxxas with their offroad vehicles lol... I bought the RMX 2.0 and enjoyed it for what it was. One thing I noticed with the RMX 2.0 was that the steering would sometimes end up sticking more to one side than the other, effectively not returning to center, after some drifting time. If I turned it off and back ok, then everything would go back to center. Literally about a week before Redcat announced the RDS, I bought a Yokomo kit... If only I had waited a bit lol
@@another2407I’m glad to read this comment. All the guys on Facebook are saying to return the YD2 and get a MST. But this video is what convinced me to get the YD
Redcat gets a bad wrap because they tend to be a budget company, and have many past sins. When they want to build something well, especially in a niche market vehicle, they tend to do very well.
That was a really great comparison of these models. I own 2 MSTs myself with plans of expanding lol! Now, I my opinion, the Redcat hits on all the points you made...except the body. I would have to see if there was a way to transfer the body mounts to a different body. But that's just me. Troy, great video! Hope to see you this year!!!
Hi there!! Yes - that is why I certainly judged the body based on "quality", not on "aesthetics". Good news - the car comes with standard body mounts also, so it is easy to add whatever body you want to it.
Awesome breakdown, more people need to see this………Everyone quits the hobby because their lost in what their goal is in the hobby for RC drifting. The problem I hear from most beginners is that their intimidated from the tuning and wrenching side of the hobby when actually that is the best part of it. Everyone wants the easy way out instead of improving their craft.
Nice video, lots of good stuff but the one category that I think should have been included being as these are RTR models is how good is it out the box...meaning a guy or gal that has never drifted before takes it out for the first time and puts it on the ground, will the out of box performance keep them interested in the hobby or turn them away.
I really considered adding a performance category - but found it might be too subjective. Plus - there is the box-stock performance....then mild tune...then full tune. Became complicated and nobody would agree. My experience is both the Redcat and the Yokomo need just a little time with the alignment settings to get right - so I created how-to videos on both to help folks out. Once the alignment is corrected on the Redcat and Yokomo - they all handle really well. Still - even if I add a performance category and judge the MST as the winner - the gap is large enough that it doesn't change the end result.
Thanks for the comparison! I’ve been trying to find a vid just like this to break ‘em down. I know as a newbie to drift but not to RC I look at how much I’ll have to spend upgrading to “decent” performance on an RTR, so I reckon the higher starting point but lower final cost of the RDS is super enticing, and that’s what I’ll likely end up with unless I can find a sweet used setup for cheap somewheres 🤙🤙🤙
That makes 100% sense. Since you are already into other forms of RC, you *might also come away cheaper building a kit. Here is a video I put together showing my current build, plus alternatives that can save some $$$. ua-cam.com/video/4-XKFoO-fO0/v-deo.html However, I really only recommend diving into a build if you have a drift community to help you get everything setup properly.
I love the idea of a kit, but thus far I’ve been too cheap to invest in a good Tx/Rx combo, so the extra cost of that up front is scary at the moment. I need to do that first though probably 🤣🤦♂️
I saw the Yokomo rtr today and the first thing I noticed was how flimsy the body looks. Probably better off building a custom rig from the chassis up for me. I wanna do something like a Grand National or a Fox Body.. something different.
Bought the redcat as my intro to the hobby not too long ago. Everything electronics wise is upgraded at this point besides the motor and esc for now. Super happy with how customizable it is overall. My biggest gripe with it so far has been figuring out how to get rid of that damn bump steer/body lift on turn in. Took me waaaayyyy too long to figure out and I still don't think its fully gone lol.
Glad it has worked for you. Check out the tips from Shane (the engineer behind the car) from one of the recent Redcat Live streams. He said how he eliminated it on his car.
@@RoadsideRC probably, but mgx gyro + new transmission/ball diff an layout makes it much better than ol' 2.0 haha 👌 That being said, i sold my fully loaded rmx to custom build my d5 lol
So wouldn't it be better to just buy the chassis and buy the stuff for it separately? That way you build it better than they do. Also wondering which of these if ANY of them are good for drifting on asphalt?
Hi there! That can be a solid path if 1) you have a group that can help you get it setup correctly, and 2) ensure you buy quality parts. What I see FREQUENTLY is folks going down the kit path, but really struggling to get them setup correctly and cutting corners on parts. Then, the car doesn't work well and they get frustrated and quit. Just FYI. Let me know if you have more questions.
This was a great video. I feel like most other reviews have a strong opinion bias. Thank you for comming off neutral. Your last statement of eventually owning one of each is the truest comment.i am looking to get into drift cars. I am a fan of the redcat brand crawlers and fms scale trucks. I have been told by our local drift team that the redcat was a good deal. So I have been binge watching reviews.
I'm getting into RC drifting and this was an awesome comparison 👍 I lean towards a MST RMX 2,5...just really like what I get there and there bodies 🙂 Have you considered compare how they are to drive? 🙂
Really Good comparison video. Agreed with most of your points but think it also needs to consider where in the world you are. I'm in the UK, and Redcat is basically non-existent here as a brand, so getting hold of a chassis, let alone after market bits, would be really hard. I'm a big fan of both the mst and yokomo and can easily get spares and upgrades from our UK drift stores. I really wish I could get hold of a redcat rds to play with as bang for buck it looks awesome. Great vid👍
don't think the Redcat is being sold here in Malaysia, however MST and Yokomo are more common here. Wonder if you can compare them with a Sakura D5S or a HPS as well as they seem even cheaper than Yokomo or MST. I'm still learning about the drift RC world and haven't pulled the trigger just yet but I'm learning a lot from your channel. 🙏
Hi there! These are the only RTR (ready to run) chassis on the market. Nobody else offers the cars completely ready to go, so that is why these were the only 3 compared.
@@RoadsideRC HSP Flying Fish was pretty cheap iirc, however its a 4WD setup similar to the Tamiya TT-02D so it might not be suitable for tandem drifting or on tight courses. But thanks for the reply though, will watch more of your videos later and learn more about drift RCs
@@kawaiikeyboards Correct - AWD and RWD are two VERY different driving experiences and uses. I have a video on that if you search "AWD vs RWD Rc drifting"
i came from all wheel drifting with yokomo and hpi...now i have a competition yokomo rwd and the mst 2.0 and 2.5 lol...i honestly love my mst2.0 the best all around
Thanks for asking! Not one that I would recommend - it is very floppy and comes loose quite a lot. Instead - I hear very good things about this one: alnk.to/c07Xv5Q
A proper sensored-brushless setup is the best path to take. However, I get MANY questions from folks attempting to run cheapo basher-spec, non-sensored brushless systems. Those are actually worse than brushed for drifting.
Which one drifts best out of the box though? I found the Yokomo RTR drifts not so nice out of the box. I haven’t tried the RDS but MST RMX RTR drifts awesome out of the box.
Great question Mike! I really struggled with adding a performance category. Plus - there are 2 of them! There is the performance directly out of the box - and then there is performance after tuning. I agree - the MST probably performs the best directly out of the box. BUT - both the Redcat and the Yokomo do really well after some tuning. I personally don't like the setup each car comes with out of the box. 30min of tuning later - they are great. There is also the question of ULTIMATE performance. After installing all of the upgrades - which does best then??? If we just look at RCDC and other competition results - we typically only see one chassis there.
@@RoadsideRC Yeah, I think Yokomo kits are the cream of the crop after all is said and done. I bought a MST RMX RTR 2.0 last year, still having fun with it and drifts great. Haven’t done any adjustments or performance upgrades to it yet but after a year it’s still drifting awesome in different tracks and surfaces. Can’t keep up with the boosted crowd though. I’m in the market for a new car and not too much motivated to build a kit. I’m thinking of getting a specced 2nd hand Yokomo, but the new RDS and RMX 2.5 is giving me some second thoughts. :)
Super fair comparison on each ❤️ now one of the huge downfalls on the MST is part availability which MST sucks on this department vs yokomo as for redcat its new and I hope it gets the traction it deserves. That said I am almost certain im be getting a RDS kit 🤔
Super useful video. I haven't driven an rc car since I was a kid in the early 90s, they're certainly a lot more complex now. I came across rc drifting and would really like to jump in. My biggest thing though is that I drive a gt86 and I've always loved the look of the rocket bunny kit. There's no way I'm ever going to get one on my car so the fact I can get that body stock on the mst has been my biggest pull. Based on what I've seen and not knowing how easily I could get that body on the other chassis makes me feel like I should just get the mst and not sweat the smaller details. Thanks again!
Good news - you are just picking between good options. The MST body can be purchased separately, and fitted to any of the chassis rather easily. In fact, it doesn't come mounted when you ourchase the MST - and you will need to buy a magnet mount kit to avoid drilling holes in the body.
Just found your channel today and wanna get into rc drifting and am weighing my rtr options. Leaning forward the mst but not 100% yet, thanks for the videos and info.
Thank you a Lot ! Now I know for sure what I want. And the winner for sure is RedCat with only cons the weight. Esspecially with price on it now $299 and I already have LiPo charger, so I only need get a couple batteries. So my choice is obvious )) I'am only can't get why open differential is better then locked one ? As I know the real drift cars using locked diff... or am I wrong ?
The open differential helps in RC drifting because getting the car to drift is easy - we want to help smooth the drift. That is where the open diff comes in.
Redcat servo twitches,the gyro glitches like crazy,the radio is garbage and really unresponsive. I just ordered the RMX 2.5 RTR with a better 6ch radio,i hope it’s far better. Never ran a Yokamo.
Redcat has come a long way, and it reminds me of Traxxas when they first started- they were a much-maligned budget brand and their early stuff was questionable, but improved quickly. Yokomo- no surprise. I've actively disliked the brand for many years. They produced things for Graupner, which is a highly respected brand- but the stuff they put out when touring cars were the rage was awful. They then produced some killer high end stuff briefly like the YR-F2, then went super low end. MST- haven't tried anything, but I likely will.
I'm not as familiar with Redcat's products. I know they've got several I want, and I do own the original Kaiju, dialed in, and love it. But since this RDS came out, and the Vigilante, I keep coming back to learn more. Your videos help that massively, so thank you for what you do!
I love my MST so far. But I blew my servo on the first track day. and the car is 99% box stock. Only mod was tires (needed fresh clean tires for the track)
I really appreciate your videos your super neutral and you review 4 wheel as well as 2 wheel and from what I have been comming to notice as a newbie in this community 4wheel drifters tend to get judged a little bit more than the two wheels drifters, but you always come off neutral, and I don’t feel judged when you talk about these “noob” Rcs so thank you for educating and not teasing the ignorant
It is a GREAT platform to grow with! Yes, you may want to invest in a controller, gyro, and servo rather soon. Honestly though - mine is still running the stock brushed esc and motor to this day! If you haven't checked it out yet, there is a lot to be gained with some small tweaks to the front alignment: ua-cam.com/video/vMShjnHOusc/v-deo.html
Very good video, thanks for pointing me in this direction. I would have bought the MST RMX if it wasn't for you explaining the Redcat is going to be better overall. Obviously this is your opinion, but I agreed with what you said. You could have elaborated a bit more on the 'buying a battery and charger' for the RDS and RTR, as a total noob I ask myself, do I need to get a specific battery? does the chassis have a slot I can just put the battery in? how do I connect it? Again, total noob! Great vid.
Glad this helped!!! Here is a guide on the batteries you will need. ua-cam.com/video/Y0WOUP5CHL4/v-deo.html There are multiple good chargers out there. I can help point you in a direction there as well.
Yes - but it really requires some unique knowledge to pick the right parts. What I mostly see when people do that, without the right knowledge, is buy all the wrong parts and then have to buy twice...so gets more expensive.
I'm kind of annoyed because I bought and built a Yokomo kit literally a week before the RDS was announced and released. I would much preferred to support American businesses. Who knows, maybe by the time I save up enough to buy the RDS, they'll either have more aftermarket support, or they'll release a revised version. It's very interesting to see that it edged out the other two in your chart, and I don't think you're wrong.
Thanks for the comparison. I am exactly in the research phase for a possible drifer in my stable. To me, the aftermarket is a real big deal. I was really swaying towards the redcar but if the aftermarket doesn't embrace it, its dead in the water even if it's a better platform. I'm not sure how the redcat needed so many upgrades when it already had them over the yokomo but none the less I believe your numbers in the end. I guess the deciding factor will lie in does my local hobby shop or track support one better than the other. That may be the determining factor for me!
Glad I could help. If you are new to drifting, it is also really important to see what chassis others are drifting around you. That way they can help more with parts, tuning, etc. You say you are very concerned about the aftermarket. Since I posted this, many folks have realized there are many of the aftermarket parts for the Yokomo that fit the Redcat, so that has been very helpful.
That is a fun question! Depends on your goals. You can go with some of the best, like the Yokomo MD or SD series: alnk.to/cb2gXt4 But you can go cheaper like the Redcat RDS as well: alnk.to/apSH9jE All depends on what you want. To be clear, there are rarely a lot of "needed" or "must" upgrades for many of the better newer chassis.
@RoadsideRC I'm just getting into the drift car scene although been in RC off and on for awhile. The drifting has really caught my attention. I Currently have the Redcat RDS and plan on using the upgrades you suggested in your videos. Love the content.
@@russsnow9298 Honestly - if you are just getting started - then save your $$ on the Redcat upgrades for now. Perhaps the only item being the lower front control arms - as they do give you a nice amount of more clearance. Did you get the RTR or the kit? Instead of spending money on the aluminum bits - make sure you have a really good transmitter/gyro/servo. Those are a much larger benefit!
Hi! I plan to open an entreprise where i would have tracks and cars that people can come and play with, same idea that the go karts. I would like to know in your opinion what rtr rwd car would be the best for the people to have fun. Of course i'd like to go for the cheapest so you can tell me also what' the cheapest and still good. Thank you! 🙏 And can we put the MST bodies on the Yokomo and on the Redcat? ☺️ They have more variety and their bodies are very good
Hi Anthony! Sounds like you have a fun adventure ahead. Are you located in the US? If so, I would suggest the Redcat. You may be able to get a bulk discount on the purchase, and parts will be cheap and easy to get. Good luck!
@@RoadsideRCHi! Time will tell. ☺️ No i'm in France 🤷♂️ And i care about beong able to have many different bodies for the cars, to have variety and not all the client wpuld play with the same looking cars you know..
Hi there! Do you have a track near you? Go and see what are the most common chassis there. That will be useful for tuning tips and sharing of spare parts.
The shop is called elite driftshop. In addition to the shop itself, they have a very good track. Yes, there is a custom Canadian version that comes with a brushless Yokomo, BL-EP6 and Zero S 13.5 combo. The Giro is a YG-302. Chassis, radio and servo are the same. However, in this version the battery and charger were removed. I bought one a week ago and I'm really enjoying it. Like the others, there are many points to be improved, the servo is the weakest point at this point. But I consider it a good starting point.
As I show in the video, they all have pros and cons. If you have a track near you, go and see what most folks use. That will help you greatly with tuning.
Thanks for the video. As a noob to drifting I was looking at these 3 and a tt02. But I think I will get the MST 2.5. I don't mind upgrading the car later, but one thing I don't want to do is adjust the camber or pitch of a tire. I have no idea what I'm doing there, the idea of not having to do that is more apealing then a carbon chasis.
Is it better to have a differential in rwd drift that is locked like differential putty from tamiya or should u have a working diff with oil or grease inside?
You want a working diff. Usually VERY open to maximize traction. However, this is clearly a tuning item, and you will need to see what works best for you, with your car, on your track.
I rly dont know how u end up with a sum of 954$ for the fully upgraded MST price, i did fully upgrade mine with, cheapo carbon chasis, rear carbon mount for esc, turnbuckles, and mettalc-cups- ball diff. My total SUM is less than 700 $... -Plus i have to add this: the yeahracing Qutus shocks are absolutelly garbage, save yourself 60$, the plastic rtr shocks are perfectly fine and much better, and i mean it. I compete vs guys who got even yokomo big bores and my car handles it fine. -Furthermore mst HAS adjastable camper in the RTR FORM, it is not with turnbuckles and for sure more time consuming but its totally wrong to say it lacks the adjastability. -The weight bias is all wrong cause you compare the rmx 2.0 not the new available at the moment 2.5. -The rmx 2.5 comes also with no locked diff. -For the redcat you should add 100$ for a proper licensed/scale body, cause that body perhaps has the quality but i dont get how its scale sisnce it represents no actuall car. If you change the body then front and rear spliter/difusser prolly wont fit to any other body. -At the end yokomodrifts good out of the box (with the factory set up of the manual). Msts come pretuned and testdrived from the factory. But the redcat... you need to cut staff to get angle and it comes out of stock with smth like 20 degrees of akerman :D :D What kind of joke is that.. I don't really see how its noob friendly RTR. Anyways i can point out many other "mistakes" but if your videos are somehow sponsored i guess you have to say good things for some brand vs an other, i get that..
I am 100% fine with an open discussion of how my ratings my be mis-judged. But DO NOT imply that what I say is dishonest in any way. That is not appropriate. I stand 100% behind my words and comments in this video being true as I see them. Each person is different, and has different priorities. That is exactly why I say that at the end. This is my ranking based on my experience. Other people have different priorities that may result in different results.
great review just wish the prices were better for us that are overseas rather than looking at $800+ on these to start with ive been looking for a whie and tbh i might go with a cheap brushed awd to get a idea if i like it or not as looking for rwd im looking at $500 or more just for your budget budget options way below these
I understand that concern for sure. To be clear though, AWD is a VERY different world from RWD. Different driving styles and different uses. I do NOT suggest trying one to see if you like the other. Check the used market in your area. Is it rather strong? I typically suggest getting the RTR RWD car and trying it. Take care of it. If you don't like it, used sales prices are usually rather strong. They hold their value pretty well. Here is an AWD vs RWD comparison: ua-cam.com/video/BGLWGxusBvI/v-deo.html
@@RoadsideRC thanks ive been looking around ill just save up and go RWD straight up , even went to a local rc meet and the prices guys were asking for second hand i may as well buy new,
Would probably buy the yokomo for the chassis but I struggle to get past the body ( stickers for windows yuk and body posts really!! ) love the look of the mst body but the upgrades required put me off . The redcat unfortunately looks great but here in the UK support for spares would always be the problem shame looks good .
which car has the best quality and possibly most durable plastics? looks like the MST has the best plastics for chassis and all other structural parts, am i wrong?
In my opinion durability more specific quality of plastic in all performance RC’s should be considered along with parts availability. People step on things dogs chew things kids abuse things. Yes drift cars are sliding and not going 50mph but still endure hitting things and the transmissions when boosted and turbo’d on carpet can be a problem. Your the guy responsible for me getting into drifting by the way but have been into RC for a long long time.
@@RoadsideRC I see! I'm in a country where rc drift is fully non existent and sourcing parts and stuff is harder and super expensive due to customs tax on toy products. Thus I was wondering as it would be my first rc car so I kinda didn't want anything breaking on like medium crashes into like a bed post or something solid that attached to the ground. Considering that which do u feel has the most durable plastics if possible
I've driven all three, My vote goes with the yokomo for the drift performance out of the box. and with the amount of conversion kits. Make it number 1 in my books. I tried the red cat it needs a new servo, gyro, something needs to be done about the steering angle, seeing you can't get full lock. In order to come close to yokomo performance.
Picking the Yokomo makes a lot of sense to me as well...it was close for sure. The Redcat front alignment is an easy fix - I already have a video on it. Makes a HUGE difference.
My notes contains lots of screen-shots/bits from your videos! Thanks a lot! I was about to order mst rmx 2.5 but now I realize that I need to research further.
@@RoadsideRC now I'm checking Yokomo SDR-020 - SD 2.0 Super Drift RWD Chassis Kit, I didn't order anything yet. (It looks like Redcat not available in Europe)
@@kivancaktas That is a great chassis as well. Very important here: no matter what chassis you get, DO NOT cheap out on the electronics!!!! A worse chassis with good electronics is MUCH BETTER than an expensive chassis with bad electronics.
@@RoadsideRC alright, basic chassis with the electronics that you have recommended is around 980 EUR (shipping, charger and battery not included), it is too expensive to start, so I decided to start with RTR and upgrade slowly. Thanks a lot once more for all your informative videos, you are awesome!
We are running a slick tire on a slick surface - getting sideways isn't an issue. Holding a smooth line once sideways is. Having tested locked vs open back-to-back - there is a HUGE difference in smoothness mid-corner, with still good traction coming out of the corner.
@@RoadsideRC seeming as I haven’t tested both in rc but have in real world I was just wondering I wasn’t trying to say that you were wrong just don’t know much about the scale other than what I’ve tested (locked).
All three of these vehicles are targeted straight towards beginners. One clarification: do you want a RWD car like this for driving on a track, or how do you expect to use it?
@RoadsideRC I mean, I dont have a track nearby that I could go to. How much does a track cost? But the main focus would just be some fun drifting and trying something unique. You know, maybe like a new hobby that I could get in to
@@RoadsideRC Just looked through the video and im suprised at how bad the RWD did on the asphalt there. Did any other AWD Drift cars come out after this video, because its already 3 years old? Because if so, then it would be a really great option to save some money
@grizzly0966 You can get RWD to do better on asphalt, but the size of the space and tire choice is key. There was a recent big RWD event help on asphalt like this. It is more just about size of space. Want to Hoon around a huge parking lot - get an AWD. Want to bang doors with your friends - get a RWD.
MST is what we call the “marketing expert” they give you a car to get you in the hobby and make you spend more money with them.
Certainly earns more $$$
Sounds a lot like Traxxas with their offroad vehicles lol... I bought the RMX 2.0 and enjoyed it for what it was. One thing I noticed with the RMX 2.0 was that the steering would sometimes end up sticking more to one side than the other, effectively not returning to center, after some drifting time. If I turned it off and back ok, then everything would go back to center. Literally about a week before Redcat announced the RDS, I bought a Yokomo kit... If only I had waited a bit lol
Its a marketing ecosystem used by many rc companies
@@NathanStorer-RCthe YD-S2 is the best out there
@@another2407I’m glad to read this comment. All the guys on Facebook are saying to return the YD2 and get a MST. But this video is what convinced me to get the YD
Really impressed with redcat. Surprised they put so much in. They definitely looked at what was missing in the rtr.
They really did their homework!
Redcat gets a bad wrap because they tend to be a budget company, and have many past sins.
When they want to build something well, especially in a niche market vehicle, they tend to do very well.
That was a really great comparison of these models. I own 2 MSTs myself with plans of expanding lol! Now, I my opinion, the Redcat hits on all the points you made...except the body. I would have to see if there was a way to transfer the body mounts to a different body. But that's just me. Troy, great video! Hope to see you this year!!!
Hi there!!
Yes - that is why I certainly judged the body based on "quality", not on "aesthetics".
Good news - the car comes with standard body mounts also, so it is easy to add whatever body you want to it.
@@RoadsideRC right on. I would try to find a way to keep the magnetic mounts or use the ones I have from Amazon.
@@Storyracing387do you have a link?
@@ukariah a link to what my friend?
Awesome breakdown, more people need to see this………Everyone quits the hobby because their lost in what their goal is in the hobby for RC drifting. The problem I hear from most beginners is that their intimidated from the tuning and wrenching side of the hobby when actually that is the best part of it. Everyone wants the easy way out instead of improving their craft.
There are certainly people with different goals out there!
Based on their goals, there may be a different vehicle for them also.
@@RoadsideRC Troy check this out just giving some helpful info. ua-cam.com/video/0BVj80bmy58/v-deo.html
@@RoadsideRC9
@@WigaWigaWoo😂
Nice video, lots of good stuff but the one category that I think should have been included being as these are RTR models is how good is it out the box...meaning a guy or gal that has never drifted before takes it out for the first time and puts it on the ground, will the out of box performance keep them interested in the hobby or turn them away.
I really considered adding a performance category - but found it might be too subjective.
Plus - there is the box-stock performance....then mild tune...then full tune. Became complicated and nobody would agree.
My experience is both the Redcat and the Yokomo need just a little time with the alignment settings to get right - so I created how-to videos on both to help folks out.
Once the alignment is corrected on the Redcat and Yokomo - they all handle really well.
Still - even if I add a performance category and judge the MST as the winner - the gap is large enough that it doesn't change the end result.
If yo own all 3, same controller could save $400 overall.
Yes it could!
Thanks for the comparison! I’ve been trying to find a vid just like this to break ‘em down. I know as a newbie to drift but not to RC I look at how much I’ll have to spend upgrading to “decent” performance on an RTR, so I reckon the higher starting point but lower final cost of the RDS is super enticing, and that’s what I’ll likely end up with unless I can find a sweet used setup for cheap somewheres 🤙🤙🤙
That makes 100% sense.
Since you are already into other forms of RC, you *might also come away cheaper building a kit.
Here is a video I put together showing my current build, plus alternatives that can save some $$$.
ua-cam.com/video/4-XKFoO-fO0/v-deo.html
However, I really only recommend diving into a build if you have a drift community to help you get everything setup properly.
I love the idea of a kit, but thus far I’ve been too cheap to invest in a good Tx/Rx combo, so the extra cost of that up front is scary at the moment. I need to do that first though probably 🤣🤦♂️
I saw the Yokomo rtr today and the first thing I noticed was how flimsy the body looks. Probably better off building a custom rig from the chassis up for me. I wanna do something like a Grand National or a Fox Body.. something different.
One thing about bodies - you will end up with MANY of them.
The chassis choice is 1000x more important than the body choice.
@@RoadsideRCThanks! I'm seeing that you can easily spend $1k or more on a car if you want all "high end" stuff. 🤯😁
Bought the redcat as my intro to the hobby not too long ago. Everything electronics wise is upgraded at this point besides the motor and esc for now. Super happy with how customizable it is overall. My biggest gripe with it so far has been figuring out how to get rid of that damn bump steer/body lift on turn in. Took me waaaayyyy too long to figure out and I still don't think its fully gone lol.
Glad it has worked for you.
Check out the tips from Shane (the engineer behind the car) from one of the recent Redcat Live streams. He said how he eliminated it on his car.
Noooooo. You gave the full price?!? 😂bold move
Loving this RDS series and the way your able to consistently keep videos coming. Thanks Troy
Thanks for watching!!!
I'll be traveling next week, so it will slow down from here.
The rmx 2.5rtr would've been a better choice instead of 2.0, but great video has always 👌
Yes!!
I have tried for MONTHS to get one...always on backorder.
For most of the categories, I don't believe the result would have changed though.
@@RoadsideRC probably, but mgx gyro + new transmission/ball diff an layout makes it much better than ol' 2.0 haha 👌
That being said, i sold my fully loaded rmx to custom build my d5 lol
the redcat's on sale for $227 right now too, really tempting.
Exactly! Hard to beat for that price!
So wouldn't it be better to just buy the chassis and buy the stuff for it separately? That way you build it better than they do. Also wondering which of these if ANY of them are good for drifting on asphalt?
Hi there!
That can be a solid path if 1) you have a group that can help you get it setup correctly, and 2) ensure you buy quality parts.
What I see FREQUENTLY is folks going down the kit path, but really struggling to get them setup correctly and cutting corners on parts. Then, the car doesn't work well and they get frustrated and quit.
Just FYI. Let me know if you have more questions.
Is that the MST 2.5 or 2.0
I was referring to the MST2.5 - but the car in video is 2.0. When I filmed this, the 2.5 RTR had not started shipping yet.
I’m gonna say Redcat for the win across the board..
There is certainly some categories where the other cars come out ahead!
When it say rtr does it come like that or do you have to build it like a kit
It comes pre-assembled.
Ummm🤔 i also picked redcat as the winner my self...less money spending in aftermarket parts
Great!
all that long winded stuff said...mst still a better car lol
I'm happy to hear where you think I got it wrong.
This was a great video. I feel like most other reviews have a strong opinion bias. Thank you for comming off neutral. Your last statement of eventually owning one of each is the truest comment.i am looking to get into drift cars. I am a fan of the redcat brand crawlers and fms scale trucks. I have been told by our local drift team that the redcat was a good deal. So I have been binge watching reviews.
Awesome! Glad I could help, and thanks for the nice words.
If you have other questions - let me know!
I'm getting into RC drifting and this was an awesome comparison 👍
I lean towards a MST RMX 2,5...just really like what I get there and there bodies 🙂
Have you considered compare how they are to drive? 🙂
Thanks! Glad this helped!
I would compare the driving but, (1) mine are all now modified, and (2) driving can be more subjective.
@RoadsideRC yea, I know, we are all driving differently, but at least we then have your subjective opinion 🙂
Really Good comparison video. Agreed with most of your points but think it also needs to consider where in the world you are. I'm in the UK, and Redcat is basically non-existent here as a brand, so getting hold of a chassis, let alone after market bits, would be really hard. I'm a big fan of both the mst and yokomo and can easily get spares and upgrades from our UK drift stores. I really wish I could get hold of a redcat rds to play with as bang for buck it looks awesome. Great vid👍
Matt! You are VERY right!! I apologize for not thinking of that.
For sure, the Redcat defaults out immediately for folks in your area.
don't think the Redcat is being sold here in Malaysia, however MST and Yokomo are more common here. Wonder if you can compare them with a Sakura D5S or a HPS as well as they seem even cheaper than Yokomo or MST. I'm still learning about the drift RC world and haven't pulled the trigger just yet but I'm learning a lot from your channel. 🙏
Hi there!
These are the only RTR (ready to run) chassis on the market. Nobody else offers the cars completely ready to go, so that is why these were the only 3 compared.
@@RoadsideRC HSP Flying Fish was pretty cheap iirc, however its a 4WD setup similar to the Tamiya TT-02D so it might not be suitable for tandem drifting or on tight courses. But thanks for the reply though, will watch more of your videos later and learn more about drift RCs
@@kawaiikeyboards Correct - AWD and RWD are two VERY different driving experiences and uses. I have a video on that if you search "AWD vs RWD Rc drifting"
i came from all wheel drifting with yokomo and hpi...now i have a competition yokomo rwd and the mst 2.0 and 2.5 lol...i honestly love my mst2.0 the best all around
Glad you like it!
@@RoadsideRC
MST 😅
The RMX 2.5 is the best oit of box without question.
Fun! It is a good car for sure.
Tell me more about how you come to that conclusion?
What body mounting kit do you have on the mst
Thanks for asking! Not one that I would recommend - it is very floppy and comes loose quite a lot.
Instead - I hear very good things about this one: alnk.to/c07Xv5Q
How can you prefer brushed to brushless?
A proper sensored-brushless setup is the best path to take.
However, I get MANY questions from folks attempting to run cheapo basher-spec, non-sensored brushless systems. Those are actually worse than brushed for drifting.
Which one drifts best out of the box though? I found the Yokomo RTR drifts not so nice out of the box. I haven’t tried the RDS but MST RMX RTR drifts awesome out of the box.
Great question Mike!
I really struggled with adding a performance category. Plus - there are 2 of them!
There is the performance directly out of the box - and then there is performance after tuning.
I agree - the MST probably performs the best directly out of the box.
BUT - both the Redcat and the Yokomo do really well after some tuning. I personally don't like the setup each car comes with out of the box. 30min of tuning later - they are great.
There is also the question of ULTIMATE performance. After installing all of the upgrades - which does best then??? If we just look at RCDC and other competition results - we typically only see one chassis there.
@@RoadsideRC Yeah, I think Yokomo kits are the cream of the crop after all is said and done. I bought a MST RMX RTR 2.0 last year, still having fun with it and drifts great. Haven’t done any adjustments or performance upgrades to it yet but after a year it’s still drifting awesome in different tracks and surfaces. Can’t keep up with the boosted crowd though. I’m in the market for a new car and not too much motivated to build a kit. I’m thinking of getting a specced 2nd hand Yokomo, but the new RDS and RMX 2.5 is giving me some second thoughts. :)
Heck yes it is time 🔥
on the redcat can you use mst bodies or yokomo bodies?
Yes! There are MANY bodies on the market that fit all of the chassis.
Anyone know if the hpi sprint 3 drift is any good
It is a very old design that is AWD. All of the vehicles here are RWD. Two completely different uses for drifting.
Awesome breakdown 👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you liked it!
interesting comparison of drift cars mate
*big like👍Au👀full watch always🦘*
Super fair comparison on each ❤️ now one of the huge downfalls on the MST is part availability which MST sucks on this department vs yokomo as for redcat its new and I hope it gets the traction it deserves.
That said I am almost certain im be getting a RDS kit 🤔
Thanks for the feedback!
@@LumpkinMumfins1 😏😎 glad somebody mentioned it 🔥
Great video!
Thanks!
Super useful video. I haven't driven an rc car since I was a kid in the early 90s, they're certainly a lot more complex now. I came across rc drifting and would really like to jump in. My biggest thing though is that I drive a gt86 and I've always loved the look of the rocket bunny kit. There's no way I'm ever going to get one on my car so the fact I can get that body stock on the mst has been my biggest pull. Based on what I've seen and not knowing how easily I could get that body on the other chassis makes me feel like I should just get the mst and not sweat the smaller details. Thanks again!
Good news - you are just picking between good options.
The MST body can be purchased separately, and fitted to any of the chassis rather easily.
In fact, it doesn't come mounted when you ourchase the MST - and you will need to buy a magnet mount kit to avoid drilling holes in the body.
@@RoadsideRC Thanks for the reply and the additional info! Though I suppose that only made my decision a bit tougher :P
Yep, that's my full-size car as well and it would be fun to have it in RC form.
very interesting ! thx
Glad you liked it!
16 sec into the video and im already hyped up!
I agree with results!
Thanks!
Dude why would you want an open differential for drifting? That makes absolutely zero sense to me, you want both rear wheels spinning at the same time
For rc drifting, it results in better performance. It helps keep a smoother drift mid-corner, and a quicker transition out of the corner.
Just found your channel today and wanna get into rc drifting and am weighing my rtr options. Leaning forward the mst but not 100% yet, thanks for the videos and info.
Glad they helped! Let me know if you have any other questions.
Thank you a Lot ! Now I know for sure what I want. And the winner for sure is RedCat with only cons the weight. Esspecially with price on it now $299 and I already have LiPo charger, so I only need get a couple batteries. So my choice is obvious ))
I'am only can't get why open differential is better then locked one ?
As I know the real drift cars using locked diff... or am I wrong ?
The open differential helps in RC drifting because getting the car to drift is easy - we want to help smooth the drift. That is where the open diff comes in.
Redcat servo twitches,the gyro glitches like crazy,the radio is garbage and really unresponsive.
I just ordered the RMX 2.5 RTR with a better 6ch radio,i hope it’s far better. Never ran a Yokamo.
Great! Hope you enjoy it.
Awesome breakdown.... im actually trying to decide right now between MST 2.5 or Yokomo... leaning towards the MST. Cheers
Glad I could help! Good luck!
Redcat has come a long way, and it reminds me of Traxxas when they first started- they were a much-maligned budget brand and their early stuff was questionable, but improved quickly. Yokomo- no surprise. I've actively disliked the brand for many years. They produced things for Graupner, which is a highly respected brand- but the stuff they put out when touring cars were the rage was awful. They then produced some killer high end stuff briefly like the YR-F2, then went super low end.
MST- haven't tried anything, but I likely will.
If you pick one up, I would be curious what you think about it!
I'm not as familiar with Redcat's products. I know they've got several I want, and I do own the original Kaiju, dialed in, and love it. But since this RDS came out, and the Vigilante, I keep coming back to learn more. Your videos help that massively, so thank you for what you do!
Glad they are helpful! Let me know if you have other questions.
Thanks for this! I have been away from RC drift for 5+ years now, and I want to get a rtr rwd car. this was a perfect video
Glad to help!
I love my MST so far. But I blew my servo on the first track day. and the car is 99% box stock. Only mod was tires (needed fresh clean tires for the track)
Sorry that happened...but is a known weak spot on the MST. Good news- you would have needed to upgrade it anyway when you changed gyros.
Holy Crap... lol I was waiting to see them driven. *face palm (please show each car at least a couple times around the track)
I have LOTs of videos of all of these vehicles driving.
I really appreciate your videos your super neutral and you review 4 wheel as well as 2 wheel and from what I have been comming to notice as a newbie in this community 4wheel drifters tend to get judged a little bit more than the two wheels drifters, but you always come off neutral, and I don’t feel judged when you talk about these “noob” Rcs so thank you for educating and not teasing the ignorant
Awesome! Thank you for the kind words. I try!
Just got my wife and i both the yokomo. Hoping it was the right decision.
It is a GREAT platform to grow with! Yes, you may want to invest in a controller, gyro, and servo rather soon. Honestly though - mine is still running the stock brushed esc and motor to this day!
If you haven't checked it out yet, there is a lot to be gained with some small tweaks to the front alignment: ua-cam.com/video/vMShjnHOusc/v-deo.html
I can get the redcat in an ofert for only 366$ with lipo and charger. Do you think it is a good deal??
Yes - a great deal!
Was the MST shown here a 2.0 or a 2.5? I thought the 2.5 does let you adjust gyro setting from the controller?
I show the 2.0, but discuss the features of the 2.5
No - you can not control gain of the 2.5 from the controller.
Very good video, thanks for pointing me in this direction. I would have bought the MST RMX if it wasn't for you explaining the Redcat is going to be better overall. Obviously this is your opinion, but I agreed with what you said.
You could have elaborated a bit more on the 'buying a battery and charger' for the RDS and RTR, as a total noob I ask myself, do I need to get a specific battery? does the chassis have a slot I can just put the battery in? how do I connect it? Again, total noob! Great vid.
Glad this helped!!!
Here is a guide on the batteries you will need.
ua-cam.com/video/Y0WOUP5CHL4/v-deo.html
There are multiple good chargers out there. I can help point you in a direction there as well.
So i am so so bee to drift rc world and i was looking into the mst but in afraid of the part availability here in salt lake utah
Good news - you don't tend to break drift cars, so parts availability isn't a concern.
Most parts are from AMain Hobbies or Super-G online.
redcat has come a long way in quality specially on price. i mostly do crawlers & in the few gens ive owned ive seen the improvments first hand
Yes! They have made big improvements!!
So basically by chassis kit and pick your own parts and you'll probably spend less
Yes - but it really requires some unique knowledge to pick the right parts.
What I mostly see when people do that, without the right knowledge, is buy all the wrong parts and then have to buy twice...so gets more expensive.
I agree 💯 bro, I just bought the yokomo have the mst and will be getting the REDCAT. Pretty sure I’ll agree with the scoring too 😂✌️.
Thanks for the support!
Is there any value in the fact mst test drives their RTRs before packaging? Less fiddly for the noob on delivery?
Great breakdown either way.
Yes!! That is 100% value added for sure.
i installed yokomo steering knuckles on my rds and it feels way better i used yokomo y2-415sala knuckles with stock axles and some shims.
Thanks for the tip!!
I'm kind of annoyed because I bought and built a Yokomo kit literally a week before the RDS was announced and released. I would much preferred to support American businesses. Who knows, maybe by the time I save up enough to buy the RDS, they'll either have more aftermarket support, or they'll release a revised version. It's very interesting to see that it edged out the other two in your chart, and I don't think you're wrong.
Thanks Nathan!
Don't worry - if you really enjoy drifting, you will probably end up with most of these chassis at some point! :)
Stock for stock MSTvs yokomo... Mst is the best to start driting its the most capable and easy to drift
I agree - the MST is easier to drive than the Yokomo straight out of the box.
Thanks for the comparison. I am exactly in the research phase for a possible drifer in my stable. To me, the aftermarket is a real big deal. I was really swaying towards the redcar but if the aftermarket doesn't embrace it, its dead in the water even if it's a better platform. I'm not sure how the redcat needed so many upgrades when it already had them over the yokomo but none the less I believe your numbers in the end. I guess the deciding factor will lie in does my local hobby shop or track support one better than the other. That may be the determining factor for me!
Glad I could help.
If you are new to drifting, it is also really important to see what chassis others are drifting around you. That way they can help more with parts, tuning, etc.
You say you are very concerned about the aftermarket. Since I posted this, many folks have realized there are many of the aftermarket parts for the Yokomo that fit the Redcat, so that has been very helpful.
Great write-up. My older bro might love this when he jumps into drifting. I ended up building a Sakura D5MR V2 a short while back and love it.
I agree - the Sakura D5 is a GREAT chassis!
@@RoadsideRC is the d5s superior to the redcat at a similar price point sans the radio?
@phoenix rising The Sakura does not come as a RTR.
This really helped alot. My 9 year old wants to start the drifting side of rc. We ran the truggy and offroading rc.
Nice! Good luck and feel free to ask questions.
I would have like the Sakura comparison with the rest of them 😞
Me too! But Sakura doesn't make a RTR!
I would go with the Redcat only because I like the body better. Loved the video
Thanks!
Best chassis kit with limited needed upgrade?
That is a fun question!
Depends on your goals. You can go with some of the best, like the Yokomo MD or SD series: alnk.to/cb2gXt4
But you can go cheaper like the Redcat RDS as well: alnk.to/apSH9jE
All depends on what you want. To be clear, there are rarely a lot of "needed" or "must" upgrades for many of the better newer chassis.
@RoadsideRC I'm just getting into the drift car scene although been in RC off and on for awhile. The drifting has really caught my attention. I Currently have the Redcat RDS and plan on using the upgrades you suggested in your videos. Love the content.
@@russsnow9298 Honestly - if you are just getting started - then save your $$ on the Redcat upgrades for now. Perhaps the only item being the lower front control arms - as they do give you a nice amount of more clearance.
Did you get the RTR or the kit? Instead of spending money on the aluminum bits - make sure you have a really good transmitter/gyro/servo. Those are a much larger benefit!
@RoadsideRC I got the RTR after watching your video I plan on getting the control mounts and other items you suggested.
@russsnow9298 OK - you would be much better off upgrading the controller first vs getting the aluminum parts. It will make a much larger difference.
Hi! I plan to open an entreprise where i would have tracks and cars that people can come and play with, same idea that the go karts. I would like to know in your opinion what rtr rwd car would be the best for the people to have fun. Of course i'd like to go for the cheapest so you can tell me also what' the cheapest and still good.
Thank you! 🙏
And can we put the MST bodies on the Yokomo and on the Redcat? ☺️ They have more variety and their bodies are very good
Hi Anthony!
Sounds like you have a fun adventure ahead.
Are you located in the US? If so, I would suggest the Redcat. You may be able to get a bulk discount on the purchase, and parts will be cheap and easy to get.
Good luck!
@@RoadsideRCHi! Time will tell. ☺️ No i'm in France 🤷♂️ And i care about beong able to have many different bodies for the cars, to have variety and not all the client wpuld play with the same looking cars you know..
Really appreciate this video! Loved seeing the VIR sticker on the bench!
Thanks! Glad it helped.
That’s an awesome video right there. Thanks a lot it helped
Glad it helped!
Thank you so much for this! I'm looking to get into RC drifting around the house and maybe eventually, when I get better, a local RC place.
Great!
Glad to help!
I’m having a really hard time determining which roller chassis to get and build.
Sakura D5MR, Yokomo RD-2Z, MST RMX 2.5
Idk how to choose haha
Hi there!
Do you have a track near you? Go and see what are the most common chassis there. That will be useful for tuning tips and sharing of spare parts.
@@RoadsideRC oh that’s a good idea! Yea I have a track near by. I’ll go and see what people are running
What wheels do you have on the redcat?, they look nice!
I believe those are the MST wheels. Before you buy, check this out:
ua-cam.com/video/eONtFXKtaUo/v-deo.html
😂😂😂 They all lose. Remotes are horrible.
I got a yokomo rtr, but at my "local" shop they have a brushless set up, I think it's a canadian special 😅 it's a 13.5t brushless motor
Where is the track in canada that you go? I'm also canadian
I've heard this from a few folks! Sounds like you get a special model in Canada!
The shop is called elite driftshop. In addition to the shop itself, they have a very good track. Yes, there is a custom Canadian version that comes with a brushless Yokomo, BL-EP6 and Zero S 13.5 combo. The Giro is a YG-302. Chassis, radio and servo are the same. However, in this version the battery and charger were removed. I bought one a week ago and I'm really enjoying it. Like the others, there are many points to be improved, the servo is the weakest point at this point. But I consider it a good starting point.
awesome, thanks for the review/comparisson
Glad it was helpful!
in your opinion which one is better for a beginner
As I show in the video, they all have pros and cons.
If you have a track near you, go and see what most folks use. That will help you greatly with tuning.
Thanks for the video. As a noob to drifting I was looking at these 3 and a tt02. But I think I will get the MST 2.5.
I don't mind upgrading the car later, but one thing I don't want to do is adjust the camber or pitch of a tire. I have no idea what I'm doing there, the idea of not having to do that is more apealing then a carbon chasis.
Great! Glad I could help.
The MST is a good platform for sure.
I hope you enjoy it!!!
Is it better to have a differential in rwd drift that is locked like differential putty from tamiya or should u have a working diff with oil or grease inside?
You want a working diff. Usually VERY open to maximize traction.
However, this is clearly a tuning item, and you will need to see what works best for you, with your car, on your track.
@@RoadsideRC ok thank u
I rly dont know how u end up with a sum of 954$ for the fully upgraded MST price, i did fully upgrade mine with, cheapo carbon chasis, rear carbon mount for esc, turnbuckles, and mettalc-cups- ball diff. My total SUM is less than 700 $...
-Plus i have to add this: the yeahracing Qutus shocks are absolutelly garbage, save yourself 60$, the plastic rtr shocks are perfectly fine and much better, and i mean it. I compete vs guys who got even yokomo big bores and my car handles it fine.
-Furthermore mst HAS adjastable camper in the RTR FORM, it is not with turnbuckles and for sure more time consuming but its totally wrong to say it lacks the adjastability.
-The weight bias is all wrong cause you compare the rmx 2.0 not the new available at the moment 2.5.
-The rmx 2.5 comes also with no locked diff.
-For the redcat you should add 100$ for a proper licensed/scale body, cause that body perhaps has the quality but i dont get how its scale sisnce it represents no actuall car. If you change the body then front and rear spliter/difusser prolly wont fit to any other body.
-At the end yokomodrifts good out of the box (with the factory set up of the manual). Msts come pretuned and testdrived from the factory. But the redcat... you need to cut staff to get angle and it comes out of stock with smth like 20 degrees of akerman :D :D What kind of joke is that.. I don't really see how its noob friendly RTR.
Anyways i can point out many other "mistakes" but if your videos are somehow sponsored i guess you have to say good things for some brand vs an other, i get that..
I am 100% fine with an open discussion of how my ratings my be mis-judged.
But DO NOT imply that what I say is dishonest in any way. That is not appropriate.
I stand 100% behind my words and comments in this video being true as I see them.
Each person is different, and has different priorities. That is exactly why I say that at the end. This is my ranking based on my experience. Other people have different priorities that may result in different results.
great review just wish the prices were better for us that are overseas rather than looking at $800+ on these to start with
ive been looking for a whie and tbh i might go with a cheap brushed awd to get a idea if i like it or not as looking for rwd im looking at $500 or more just for your budget budget options way below these
I understand that concern for sure.
To be clear though, AWD is a VERY different world from RWD. Different driving styles and different uses. I do NOT suggest trying one to see if you like the other.
Check the used market in your area. Is it rather strong? I typically suggest getting the RTR RWD car and trying it. Take care of it. If you don't like it, used sales prices are usually rather strong. They hold their value pretty well.
Here is an AWD vs RWD comparison:
ua-cam.com/video/BGLWGxusBvI/v-deo.html
@@RoadsideRC thanks ive been looking around ill just save up and go RWD straight up ,
even went to a local rc meet and the prices guys were asking for second hand i may as well buy new,
Would probably buy the yokomo for the chassis but I struggle to get past the body ( stickers for windows yuk and body posts really!! ) love the look of the mst body but the upgrades required put me off . The redcat unfortunately looks great but here in the UK support for spares would always be the problem shame looks good .
Hmm. Certainly some trade offs there for you. I understand for sure.
I’d take the cf chassis every time. Redcat really came hard and clowned these prestigious drift brands.
Thank you. I like the redcat.
It is pretty good!
Which car do you drive the most?
All 3! :)
My main car has been the Sakura D5. I am now building the Redcat RDS kit to be my main car.
The RMX and Yokomo are my kids' cars.
Interested if the revd would have made the list if this came out more recently
These are all RTR vehicles. The ReveD is not a RTR vehicle.
@@RoadsideRC ah, my mistake since it has been thrown into conversations on forum posts when people where asking about rtr I assumed it was
Are you bringing them to uste?
I'm not planning on bringing all of them. I will have the Redcat and my main car with me.
which car has the best quality and possibly most durable plastics? looks like the MST has the best plastics for chassis and all other structural parts, am i wrong?
Hmm.
Really good question.
I've never broken a plastic bit on them. Durability usually isn't an issue when it comes to drift cars.
In my opinion durability more specific quality of plastic in all performance RC’s should be considered along with parts availability. People step on things dogs chew things kids abuse things. Yes drift cars are sliding and not going 50mph but still endure hitting things and the transmissions when boosted and turbo’d on carpet can be a problem. Your the guy responsible for me getting into drifting by the way but have been into RC for a long long time.
@@RoadsideRC I see! I'm in a country where rc drift is fully non existent and sourcing parts and stuff is harder and super expensive due to customs tax on toy products. Thus I was wondering as it would be my first rc car so I kinda didn't want anything breaking on like medium crashes into like a bed post or something solid that attached to the ground. Considering that which do u feel has the most durable plastics if possible
Best is the Sakura d5rr
That car doesn't come as a ready-to-run, so that is why it is not included...
This a is a great video. Is parts availability a factor?
That is a consideration for sure, but fortunately drift cars don't break a lot.
@@RoadsideRC This may a good reason to get into drifting.
😁😁👍👍
I've driven all three, My vote goes with the yokomo for the drift performance out of the box. and with the amount of conversion kits. Make it number 1 in my books.
I tried the red cat it needs a new servo, gyro, something needs to be done about the steering angle, seeing you can't get full lock. In order to come close to yokomo performance.
Picking the Yokomo makes a lot of sense to me as well...it was close for sure.
The Redcat front alignment is an easy fix - I already have a video on it. Makes a HUGE difference.
My notes contains lots of screen-shots/bits from your videos! Thanks a lot! I was about to order mst rmx 2.5 but now I realize that I need to research further.
Happy to help! The RMX2.5 is still a solid choice.
Any other questions I can answer?
@@RoadsideRC now I'm checking Yokomo SDR-020 - SD 2.0 Super Drift RWD Chassis Kit, I didn't order anything yet. (It looks like Redcat not available in Europe)
@@kivancaktas That is a great chassis as well.
Very important here: no matter what chassis you get, DO NOT cheap out on the electronics!!!!
A worse chassis with good electronics is MUCH BETTER than an expensive chassis with bad electronics.
@@RoadsideRC Noted, very good point! I will share my latest progress, thanks a lot for all your informative videos!
@@RoadsideRC alright, basic chassis with the electronics that you have recommended is around 980 EUR (shipping, charger and battery not included), it is too expensive to start, so I decided to start with RTR and upgrade slowly. Thanks a lot once more for all your informative videos, you are awesome!
Yokomo seems over price to me it should have been around 200
$200 is the same as the kit price. Surely it can't be the same as the kit.
In the real world you want a locked / welded diff for drifting so why is it that you don’t want a Locked diff in the rc world of drifting
That's all preference some people like it some don't.
We are running a slick tire on a slick surface - getting sideways isn't an issue. Holding a smooth line once sideways is.
Having tested locked vs open back-to-back - there is a HUGE difference in smoothness mid-corner, with still good traction coming out of the corner.
@@RoadsideRC exactly why I asked?
@@RoadsideRC seeming as I haven’t tested both in rc but have in real world I was just wondering I wasn’t trying to say that you were wrong just don’t know much about the scale other than what I’ve tested (locked).
@Maclain SXL That is exactly how I took it, sorry if my response sounded short.
No running video?
I have A LOT of running videos on the channel. This was getting quite long even without any driving.
@@RoadsideRC I didn't see one with them all running
Would the redcat be a good csr for first-timers? Ive always wanted to own a rc drift car, but im still a student and dont earn a ton of cash
All three of these vehicles are targeted straight towards beginners.
One clarification: do you want a RWD car like this for driving on a track, or how do you expect to use it?
@RoadsideRC I mean, I dont have a track nearby that I could go to. How much does a track cost? But the main focus would just be some fun drifting and trying something unique. You know, maybe like a new hobby that I could get in to
@@grizzly0966 Just in case - watch this: ua-cam.com/video/BGLWGxusBvI/v-deo.html
Depending on your goals, you could save a lot of $$$.
@@RoadsideRC Just looked through the video and im suprised at how bad the RWD did on the asphalt there. Did any other AWD Drift cars come out after this video, because its already 3 years old? Because if so, then it would be a really great option to save some money
@grizzly0966 You can get RWD to do better on asphalt, but the size of the space and tire choice is key. There was a recent big RWD event help on asphalt like this.
It is more just about size of space. Want to Hoon around a huge parking lot - get an AWD. Want to bang doors with your friends - get a RWD.
Your channel, by far, is the beat RC drift channel as far as information on products. Thank you for making these
Glad they are helpful!
done swaping my d5mr to carbon.and it noicessss.and thanks for the upload ma dude.
Thank you!