even a right to repair law wasn't enough to make apple sweat. the only thing that can force apple to become humble is if a significant amount of people stopped buying their products for a significant amount of time but... that will never happen
I dont understand why people thought it was fake it is basically a board with traces connected to a M.2 slot. There is no pairing between the part and the rest of the board (like how touchID is married to the SOC). Think of this solution much like how wires connect a speaker to an amp. All your wires do is transfer power and the signal. It would have been a challenge to get a board designed to spec to incorporate a slot for a removable drive. That being said, I am curious if your mod would allow an install of a commercial grade M.2 drive with a controller. Anyways, board mods have existed for ever. Infact even manufacturers do board revisions. At the end of the day this is essentially advanced electronics and it takes alot of R&D to develop prototypes. As an EE student I would like to thank you so much for your work and being a huge contributer to right to repair.
What I'm curious about is can they change the adapter so it can take those replaceable SSDs from MacMini? There're already projects that sell them premade a lot cheaper than Apple
Seriously, this guys are the best in terms of upgrading a mac without squeezing your bank account. I will surely seeking their service in the near future!
Extremely happy this is from a Malaysian store. Not too far away from where I am. I was considering an M1, but didn't like the idea of a limited SSD life span. This makes it extremely viable.
Here's another idea: Instead of making it work with 3rd part SSDs, would it be more feasible to make it work with the Mac Studio and the new Mac mini's removable SSDs modules? Some people have duplicated the PCB of Apple's Mac Studio storage modules and installed NAND modules on them to sell them as SSD upgrade modules, so it could be really useful if those modules could also work with MacBooks.
Having the storage removable makes it upgradable and repairable (if the NANDs fail), despite the fact that y ou have to restore the Mac. I look forward to this being released.
1. It’s amazing what you can learn on UA-cam. 2. I’m surprised you didn’t get PCBway to sponsor this video for you. 3. Great work, sorry you had to make this video for the hate comments.
the restoration utility provided by apple is able to reprogram the memory controller in the soc as long as the nand chips (blank) are disposed in a layout intended by apple, for exemple, dosdude tried to put 2 TB in the latest mac mini but failed because i don't think there is a config with only 2 chips intended for the m4 soc but there is probably one with 1 tb for the mba m4 so the restoration succeeded If you take into consideration this fact, you realy question why the chips aren't on a swapable module -_-'
this looks easier to solder because you can see the pads through the PCB. Even if you weren't planning on upgrading again and you planned to get a new one before it died you should still use this imo.
Ayyy finally a video about micro-electronics not geared towards EE students where someone is talking about the importance of transmission line theory. I knew as soon as it was called out I would hear a clip of Rick Hartley. I do feel bad though that you got a ton of haters in the first video when you went to a lot of engineering effort and knowledge to make this a reality. Kudos to you my dude.
once i saw eric bogatin, i knew robert feranec will come up next! thank you for sharing your thought proces on doing this mod! it really shows how far you guys work on this!
Wonderful work, thanks for the really nice explanation! I think the biggest problem is to desolder the old NAND and solder the PCD Adapter without damaging the logic board.
Man, u have done FKIN AMAZING job. U have done more than just adapter, I know all about what you’re talking about and watching that video makes me happy. Good that you show that apple does a bad job, good that you have done a good job. Usually when I watched your videos I was thinking like „another guy with some hotair hardware who thinks that invented the world”. But not now. Now I give you all possible appreciation. Waiting for more. Personally got a lot of konwledge but no time to play and no knowledge to record it. Now I have no point in even trying to learn how to record. Keep your job to that level. All engineering IT waiting for your job.
Bro sya ni juga dari malaysia. I love your videos skrg sya ni software engineer in kl. if my macbook have any problem i will look for you. Thank you so much for videos. I hope you do your best in making videos and your business. I wish you the best.
Hey, I appreciate you linking the PCB design videos, I'm a bit of a beginner and these are great resources. (I boards so far are too simple for crosstalk)
I have a macbook air m1, and I watched your first video with my friend who work a repair shop, we both understood at the first video how it was done, and honestly, I just waiting for this board to be released not only for the M1, but also for the M3, my M1 have 140TBW/150TBW, and my M3 256Go ssd (even with 24Go of ram) after some years will have too, and at this moment, it will be nice to be able to change the ssd by just removing the case and swapping them by new ssd so resume in 2 words : good job !
I'm actually soo interesting can you guys doing a works on upgradeable ram on soldered windows laptop?? Because I'm very very frustrating for that problem
love all that detailed info on how you pulled this off...I mean i WANT to try and reverse engineer a screenshot so i can get one of those RIGHT NOW.. but you're prices are so competitve I would probably only be at the prototype stage before the drop hits..keep up the great work you guys show all the flaws in apples buisness model; just think if this tech made it to the consumer, they could do ANYTHING with it!
You don't have to prove anything. These guys are jealous and dead inside because they don't have the expertise to do such awesome stuff. All the best brother
non-removable storage was 90% of the reason why I didn't go Macbook. I was super tempted with the performance of the M chips and willing to try the "ecosystem," but at what cost?
7:20 its not the same 19cm through the board vs. 19cm through board and interposer. Interposer and m2 connector result in DB loss and poorer signal integrety than only board traces
Здравствуйте! Довольно познавательно смотреть процесс создания платы и какие документации были использованы (Это дает возможность узнавать и расширять свой кругозор) Я как пользователь Macbook Air M1 8/256, часто испытываю трудность с памятью и ваше решение которое вы показали как увеличить память дает надежду не выкидывать свой мак и покупать новый только ради большого объема памяти. То, что вы сделали это стоило огромный сил, времени и нервов :) Я вам желаю удачи и не останавливаться на достигнутом, а только идти вперед!
Keep going bro, your works are really appreciated. Can't wait for next and unthinkable innovation for DIY Mac mods. Salam dari Indonesia, kite tetanggaan.
Thank you for this inovative idea for this big iProblem :)) . But you can also use slots like as raspberry pi compute module to remove the anoying m.2 slot. It was awesome to mount direct nvme ssd and to use without any problem.
Amazing work, this will change M series macs, just got a refurbished m1 pro 16 with 32gb ram but with 512ssd, being able to upgrade the storage is exciting
I’m sorry, this is so very impressive. How does one even manage to learn all this? If anything this discourages me from continuing my computer engineering degree…. Honestly how are you even this smart? All those books? All that math?
And I have to say this… as anAmerican citizen. Rarely is it someone from the USA that I see put this much effort into breaking the constraints of computers. It is always someone from Europe/Asia, typically.
One question, where do you get those kioxia nand?? From another mbp donors?? Soo if you guys runs out of nand from MacBook donor board then you cant re stock your mac ssd?? Actually, it's soo unfortunate that your m.2 project abandoned, i know the speed is slow, but having universal ssd as mac internal storage is dream for all of us lol
Hate comments??? Haters gonna hate, but people that know anything about Macbooks love all your work iBoff mat. I love how you handle the disbelievers IBoff 🙏
I see in the comments that you're based in Malaysia (I should have recognised the accent). I'm in Bangkok and glad to see the people of ASEAN keeping up the tradition of circumventing Apple's restrictions. (Especially after that idiotic short film they made.)
Really great what you guys are doing! And yet I don't see much point here, as SSDs with a higher capacity are not available to buy. These are quasi custom SSDs that always have to be made individually and a one-time upgrade (with soldering work) would be cheaper than with your adapter plus a possible later upgrade with a new custom SSD.
Maybe once you release something for the 16" MBP that'll finally give me a reason to upgrade my 2017 touchbar 15" MBP... Seriously through great work and great videos. Hope to see more from you soon.
Maybe off-topic and unrelated. But I really liked how you shared the process in which you learned to do all of this stuff, especially the part where you literally linked the lectures of the electrical engineering professors. Unsure if I will get a response, but how did you learn to edit like this? Especially the part at 1:06 just boggles my mind. I hope you can share maybe the resource of this. I won't bother you after. I really want to learn stuff like that
If you can open-source at least the NAND carrier board, or even start selling these yourself, these will be AMAZING to get! It really shows that Apple intentionally soldered the SSDs to prevent user upgradeability, and I'm really excited to see if I can send my MBP over to get this upgrade done.
Can't wait to upgrade my M1 MBAir! Btw, won't you have copyright problems with the "I" in your logo? It's literally the L from death note, with a leaf on top isn't it?
U guys did an excellent job and for that u deserve all the glory and every reward! It looks like Apple is came to senses a bit with the Mac Mini, however unfortunately it seems there's no change with the Macbooks.
Considering M.2 SSDs do not work with this mod it might be a good idea to print “Do not use standard M.2 SSDs with this board!“ or another warning on the connector PCB in case someone tries it and starts complaining that they shorted out their memory controller.
In my past life, I was a repair technician. I was so disappointed when Apple decided to solder their SSD storage. They claimed it reduced latency and improved performance, which is somewhat true. Considering the rest of the industry has moved on to using PCI-e gen 4 and 5 drives with speeds two to three times faster than the older gen 3 tech Apple is using those claims are not valid anymore. Their competitors still use removable NVME storage drives in most cases and achieve massively higher performance while retaining the advantages of removable storage. It's time for Apple to go back to modular storage. The chassis has room for it and they can absolutely accommodate the change.
I am actually super excited for this, I would pay somebody hundreds to do this for me just so that I could have a 4TB iMac, and actually still be able to use it if the NAND fails
still seems like a very costly solution you need a hot air gun station for installation of the first mod, and to solder the nands on the external boards. not quite the plug and use you seemed to have described in the first video.
Finally someone who actually puts effort in pressuring apple to improve their upgradability on their macs
look at the Mac Studio and the Mac mini M4 have removable ssd but you can't change apple make it voluntarily
Pressure ? Apple doesn't care. What every big corpo cares is the bottomline.
@@TechGameDev They have removable SSD's, but they use special ones... because apple..
even a right to repair law wasn't enough to make apple sweat. the only thing that can force apple to become humble is if a significant amount of people stopped buying their products for a significant amount of time but... that will never happen
Axiotron was doing that years ago… then they just went out of business mysteriously. I’m so worried for these guys
Thank you for also providing the knowledge sources for PCB design; very interesting.
tbh it's definitely overcomplicating pcb design unless you want to make something that specifically needs modern pcie levels of signal integrity
@@ThylineTheGay in other words it isn't overcomplicated and has the right amount of details?
@@kiyoponnn dumping 50 hours or whatever of video watching on someone is just going to overwhelm them, not help
I dont understand why people thought it was fake it is basically a board with traces connected to a M.2 slot. There is no pairing between the part and the rest of the board (like how touchID is married to the SOC). Think of this solution much like how wires connect a speaker to an amp. All your wires do is transfer power and the signal. It would have been a challenge to get a board designed to spec to incorporate a slot for a removable drive. That being said, I am curious if your mod would allow an install of a commercial grade M.2 drive with a controller. Anyways, board mods have existed for ever. Infact even manufacturers do board revisions. At the end of the day this is essentially advanced electronics and it takes alot of R&D to develop prototypes.
As an EE student I would like to thank you so much for your work and being a huge contributer to right to repair.
Edit: My question was answered later on at 9:35
What I'm curious about is can they change the adapter so it can take those replaceable SSDs from MacMini?
There're already projects that sell them premade a lot cheaper than Apple
When you sell the kit in december, please include two dummy PCBs so that people can practice soldering the pins without frying their macbooks 🙏
Seriously, this guys are the best in terms of upgrading a mac without squeezing your bank account. I will surely seeking their service in the near future!
Extremely happy this is from a Malaysian store. Not too far away from where I am. I was considering an M1, but didn't like the idea of a limited SSD life span. This makes it extremely viable.
Bro im buying your stuff im sold
I saw the shout-out on the LTT WAN Show. I've really enjoyed how you've listed all the fancy EE knowledge required. 🖖🤣👍
which episode?
@@ChapitZulkefli the most recent one, 14 hours ago.
I was a customer of iBoff. Good job at explaining the process here. Malaysia boleh!
Thank you for your trust!
Man electrical engineers are cool af. Thank you for this.
Here's another idea: Instead of making it work with 3rd part SSDs, would it be more feasible to make it work with the Mac Studio and the new Mac mini's removable SSDs modules? Some people have duplicated the PCB of Apple's Mac Studio storage modules and installed NAND modules on them to sell them as SSD upgrade modules, so it could be really useful if those modules could also work with MacBooks.
This! And there's a project already that's selling those SSDs for MacMini a lot cheaper than Apple and with overvoltage protection.
Having the storage removable makes it upgradable and repairable (if the NANDs fail), despite the fact that y ou have to restore the Mac. I look forward to this being released.
1. It’s amazing what you can learn on UA-cam. 2. I’m surprised you didn’t get PCBway to sponsor this video for you.
3. Great work, sorry you had to make this video for the hate comments.
The m4 Mac mini has removable storage, but with a controller built in. But is there any possibility of DIY storage upgrades on those new systems?
He already did it with mac studio
There will be in the future...
the restoration utility provided by apple is able to reprogram the memory controller in the soc as long as the nand chips (blank) are disposed in a layout intended by apple, for exemple, dosdude tried to put 2 TB in the latest mac mini but failed because i don't think there is a config with only 2 chips intended for the m4 soc but there is probably one with 1 tb for the mba m4 so the restoration succeeded
If you take into consideration this fact, you realy question why the chips aren't on a swapable module -_-'
dosdude did it already with the new M4 Mac Mini
Very good work dude !
It's nice that you sell it, hope that can help to save a lot of dead SSD mackbook
this looks easier to solder because you can see the pads through the PCB. Even if you weren't planning on upgrading again and you planned to get a new one before it died you should still use this imo.
You guys are awesome! Your work is just WOOOOW and then all these videos to answer all the scepticisim in detail...you absolutely rock!!
as I said already these are some next level mods, respect
Bro your work is incredible and we need more people like you. I wonder if I can do this on my M2 Macbook Air
Ayyy finally a video about micro-electronics not geared towards EE students where someone is talking about the importance of transmission line theory. I knew as soon as it was called out I would hear a clip of Rick Hartley.
I do feel bad though that you got a ton of haters in the first video when you went to a lot of engineering effort and knowledge to make this a reality. Kudos to you my dude.
once i saw eric bogatin, i knew robert feranec will come up next!
thank you for sharing your thought proces on doing this mod! it really shows how far you guys work on this!
The first 5 minutes should probably have been included in your initial video. Nice work and a nice solution! Definitely a fan of your efforts.
Amazing effort to make this happen. Congratulations on making this work
So happy he uploaded again, nice to know he is safe ❤
Wonderful work, thanks for the really nice explanation! I think the biggest problem is to desolder the old NAND and solder the PCD Adapter without damaging the logic board.
Amazing video, loved the detailed explaination. It's very time consuming to make a video like this, watched it start to finish, well done!
Man, u have done FKIN AMAZING job. U have done more than just adapter, I know all about what you’re talking about and watching that video makes me happy. Good that you show that apple does a bad job, good that you have done a good job. Usually when I watched your videos I was thinking like „another guy with some hotair hardware who thinks that invented the world”.
But not now. Now I give you all possible appreciation. Waiting for more. Personally got a lot of konwledge but no time to play and no knowledge to record it. Now I have no point in even trying to learn how to record. Keep your job to that level. All engineering IT waiting for your job.
one of the goats of apple repair 🐐🙌
you guys know your shit. thanks for the work! keep it up
6:02 comments: “defend your video”… OP: “allow me to take you to school”
Bro sya ni juga dari malaysia. I love your videos skrg sya ni software engineer in kl. if my macbook have any problem i will look for you. Thank you so much for videos. I hope you do your best in making videos and your business. I wish you the best.
Thank you very much for your trust!
And next is upgradable ram innovation from you sir 👍🏼
GREAT JOB!!! First time on our channel and I have subbed!!
Great video iBoff RCC. As an Engineer this makes me happy to see someone solve a problem Apple created!
I remember yall from the X-GPU stuff! You guys are the real deal!
This video is just an electrical engineering flex on us all
Hey, I appreciate you linking the PCB design videos, I'm a bit of a beginner and these are great resources. (I boards so far are too simple for crosstalk)
Dude this is the honest video Ive seen in a long time. Sadly Im a soldering noob. Great work anyways.
I have a macbook air m1, and I watched your first video with my friend who work a repair shop, we both understood at the first video how it was done, and honestly, I just waiting for this board to be released not only for the M1, but also for the M3, my M1 have 140TBW/150TBW, and my M3 256Go ssd (even with 24Go of ram) after some years will have too, and at this moment, it will be nice to be able to change the ssd by just removing the case and swapping them by new ssd
so resume in 2 words : good job !
Thanks for PCB designer's starter pack))
I'm actually soo interesting can you guys doing a works on upgradeable ram on soldered windows laptop?? Because I'm very very frustrating for that problem
love all that detailed info on how you pulled this off...I mean i WANT to try and reverse engineer a screenshot so i can get one of those RIGHT NOW.. but you're prices are so competitve I would probably only be at the prototype stage before the drop hits..keep up the great work you guys show all the flaws in apples buisness model; just think if this tech made it to the consumer, they could do ANYTHING with it!
You don't have to prove anything. These guys are jealous and dead inside because they don't have the expertise to do such awesome stuff. All the best brother
non-removable storage was 90% of the reason why I didn't go Macbook. I was super tempted with the performance of the M chips and willing to try the "ecosystem," but at what cost?
7:20 its not the same 19cm through the board vs. 19cm through board and interposer. Interposer and m2 connector result in DB loss and poorer signal integrety than only board traces
presumably less than the extra 7cm in trace length as demonstrated by the working machine in the video..
Well I mean they did test it and it seems to work fine
There's no really other options
Well whatever the losses are it seems to be within the window of acceptable performance to not be noticeable
Здравствуйте!
Довольно познавательно смотреть процесс создания платы и какие документации были использованы (Это дает возможность узнавать и расширять свой кругозор)
Я как пользователь Macbook Air M1 8/256, часто испытываю трудность с памятью и ваше решение которое вы показали как увеличить память дает надежду не выкидывать свой мак и покупать новый только ради большого объема памяти.
То, что вы сделали это стоило огромный сил, времени и нервов :)
Я вам желаю удачи и не останавливаться на достигнутом, а только идти вперед!
Crazy impressive stuff🙌🏾. Even after all the research and development time this took, its still reasonably priced.
Keep going bro, your works are really appreciated. Can't wait for next and unthinkable innovation for DIY Mac mods.
Salam dari Indonesia, kite tetanggaan.
I will definitely be on the lookout for when this drops! Looks like some great work :)
Thank you for this inovative idea for this big iProblem :)) . But you can also use slots like as raspberry pi compute module to remove the anoying m.2 slot. It was awesome to mount direct nvme ssd and to use without any problem.
Maybe you can create a version of this adapter to be compatible with official apple ssd upgrade kits? Btw, great project!
the only true lore acurrate response video
I love the new era of hardware hacking.
This video is awesome! Got some catching up to do! Thanks for sharing!
Seriously Thank you for your work this is innovation in a field that really needs it.
Amazing work, this will change M series macs, just got a refurbished m1 pro 16 with 32gb ram but with 512ssd, being able to upgrade the storage is exciting
I’m sorry, this is so very impressive. How does one even manage to learn all this? If anything this discourages me from continuing my computer engineering degree…. Honestly how are you even this smart? All those books? All that math?
And I have to say this… as anAmerican citizen. Rarely is it someone from the USA that I see put this much effort into breaking the constraints of computers. It is always someone from Europe/Asia, typically.
One question, where do you get those kioxia nand?? From another mbp donors?? Soo if you guys runs out of nand from MacBook donor board then you cant re stock your mac ssd?? Actually, it's soo unfortunate that your m.2 project abandoned, i know the speed is slow, but having universal ssd as mac internal storage is dream for all of us lol
That’s so cooooool! if only soldering were safe and easy 😄
I enjoy your humour. That is all.
Hate comments??? Haters gonna hate, but people that know anything about Macbooks love all your work iBoff mat. I love how you handle the disbelievers IBoff 🙏
@@MrPnew1 as always, thanks Peter! 😊
The effort you put in these projects, and your knowledge, are impressive.
Great video! Now, we need MacOS downloadable to a USB drive with MacOS installer.
I see in the comments that you're based in Malaysia (I should have recognised the accent). I'm in Bangkok and glad to see the people of ASEAN keeping up the tradition of circumventing Apple's restrictions. (Especially after that idiotic short film they made.)
Yo, cant believe i made it into the video 😂
Really great what you guys are doing! And yet I don't see much point here, as SSDs with a higher capacity are not available to buy. These are quasi custom SSDs that always have to be made individually and a one-time upgrade (with soldering work) would be cheaper than with your adapter plus a possible later upgrade with a new custom SSD.
Great work buddy! I would love to buy this. But the problem is i ain’t know shit about soldering.
But still Hats off
Maybe once you release something for the 16" MBP that'll finally give me a reason to upgrade my 2017 touchbar 15" MBP... Seriously through great work and great videos. Hope to see more from you soon.
you deserve to be spoken about by EEVBlog. And I dedicate you to be in an episode of AmpHour. You rock
Maybe off-topic and unrelated. But I really liked how you shared the process in which you learned to do all of this stuff, especially the part where you literally linked the lectures of the electrical engineering professors. Unsure if I will get a response, but how did you learn to edit like this? Especially the part at 1:06 just boggles my mind. I hope you can share maybe the resource of this. I won't bother you after. I really want to learn stuff like that
enough with explanation im sold
If you can open-source at least the NAND carrier board, or even start selling these yourself, these will be AMAZING to get!
It really shows that Apple intentionally soldered the SSDs to prevent user upgradeability, and I'm really excited to see if I can send my MBP over to get this upgrade done.
i didnt have finished yet but i can say you guys are amazing!
Can't wait to upgrade my M1 MBAir! Btw, won't you have copyright problems with the "I" in your logo? It's literally the L from death note, with a leaf on top isn't it?
I like your videos! Great information Keep it up!
Excellent engineering! Respect!
11:24 that better not be a TPS62180
It looks like it is. HAHA. ECL180
U guys did an excellent job and for that u deserve all the glory and every reward! It looks like Apple is came to senses a bit with the Mac Mini, however unfortunately it seems there's no change with the Macbooks.
Thank you guys for doing what you do. You are making the world a better place 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✝️✝️✝️
So incredible you make this!
Considering M.2 SSDs do not work with this mod it might be a good idea to print “Do not use standard M.2 SSDs with this board!“ or another warning on the connector PCB in case someone tries it and starts complaining that they shorted out their memory controller.
Any plans of providing services? Like installing the adapter?
In my past life, I was a repair technician. I was so disappointed when Apple decided to solder their SSD storage. They claimed it reduced latency and improved performance, which is somewhat true. Considering the rest of the industry has moved on to using PCI-e gen 4 and 5 drives with speeds two to three times faster than the older gen 3 tech Apple is using those claims are not valid anymore. Their competitors still use removable NVME storage drives in most cases and achieve massively higher performance while retaining the advantages of removable storage. It's time for Apple to go back to modular storage. The chassis has room for it and they can absolutely accommodate the change.
That’s just marketing bs, whereas its true that it was faster, it was done to prevent upgrading and forcing people to buy a new laptop.
Though I fully expect apple lawyers to visit you and try to stop you….I look forward to giving you my money for increasing my storage.
Would absolutely do this with an M4
Protec this guys at all costs!!
What a nice response
FINNALY. AN REMOVEABLE SSD ON M SERIES MAC
I am actually super excited for this, I would pay somebody hundreds to do this for me just so that I could have a 4TB iMac, and actually still be able to use it if the NAND fails
Will this be available as a modification on your website? I’d be happy to mail in my MacBook or something in order to get this done lol
still seems like a very costly solution
you need a hot air gun station for installation of the first mod, and to solder the nands on the external boards.
not quite the plug and use you seemed to have described in the first video.
Great Job Dudes, Are really interesting project
Tip for the future: learn how to upgrade ram to M series Macs
The mac mini m4 now has these modules
Holy moly! Incredible work.
this is all very interesting but I'm just waiting from you for a similar adapter or solution for m4 mac mini
How about the speed comparison? Can you make a video on that.?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge bro.
i want more storage so i will buy it when it realease
you did excellent job ❤🎉🎉