Exploring the weird world of 'Headless' MacBooks

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  • @lukemiani
    @lukemiani  Рік тому +2504

    Pro tip: newer Apple Silicon Macs have antennas integrated into the lower case so in the future we won't have to create weird taped together antenna bars in projects like this...

    • @fergusyoung6782
      @fergusyoung6782 Рік тому +35

      I’m pretty sure this is true of the USB-C retina MacBooks too…? Certainly my 2017 and 2020 13 inch, and my 2018 15 inch has it separate.

    • @datdudeinred
      @datdudeinred Рік тому +177

      Lol after seeing this they would transfer few more chips onto the display just so no one would be able to do this with next macbooks. Mark my words.

    • @moekhdeir
      @moekhdeir Рік тому +40

      @@datdudeinred insanely smart idea that you just gave them, thanks! Jokes aside tho I wouldn’t be surprised if they did that or made Macs basically not even turn on when a running main display is not connected :(

    • @hishnash
      @hishnash Рік тому +16

      @@datdudeinred Despite what people think apple is not going out of thier way (spending money) to make things harder to repair they are just not considering third party repair at all. There is no way they would increase the cost of making each laptop for this.

    • @tomatosoupwoo
      @tomatosoupwoo Рік тому +30

      @@hishnash well many parts are hardware locked, especially on iphones.

  • @pureretro5979
    @pureretro5979 Рік тому +156

    I did this in the early 2000's with an old Powerbook and used it as a server. The integrated battery meant it would keep going for a few hours even after a power failure. It was also small enough to mount on the underside of a desk.

    • @paristo
      @paristo 9 місяців тому +7

      Yeah. Old laptops are great for servers. Take very little space, and you have the full keyboard access when required. Tug the machine under table on couple screwed metal brackets and you forget it existing. And then you just SSH in them as required. Or use VNC etc to have nice visual remote control.

  • @mbrock5532
    @mbrock5532 Рік тому +1335

    For $60 he got the equivalent of a Mac Mini with the keyboard and trackpad which saves a lot of money, but another thing that I didn't see mentioned in the comments I read is that you also get a battery backup so if the power goes out your computer doesn't go off as well. So, you save money on the cost of a battery backup unit as well. Great video, Luke!

    • @eomoran
      @eomoran Рік тому +89

      Your computer does go out. The monitor will turn off. The benefit is might not lose data

    • @queasycarboy508
      @queasycarboy508 Рік тому +21

      ​@@eomorani dont want to be mad, but did you kniw that portable monitors exist?

    • @kenshn22828
      @kenshn22828 Рік тому +13

      ​@@eomoransame would happen with a mac mini except with the potential data loss. You made an irrelevant point.

    • @whyamiwastingmytimeonthis
      @whyamiwastingmytimeonthis Рік тому +25

      @@kenshn22828it is a relevant point, the internal battery is not a fully functional UPS equivalent because you won’t be able to continue using the setup with the monitor powered off.
      _You_ made an irrelevant point.

    • @juss2186
      @juss2186 Рік тому +28

      @@whyamiwastingmytimeonthis The point isn't regarding whether or not the setup is functional without external power, the point is regarding WHAT HAPPENS when you lose power. The Macbook would remain on since it has a standalone battery whereas the mac mini would have no power and would immediately shut off. The mac mini could experience some data loss depending on what you were doing when it lost power.
      Neither of you made irrelevant points, you're arguing about two different things.

  • @gristlelollygag
    @gristlelollygag Рік тому +146

    The current position of the antenna blocks the airflow, so it would be great if you 3D printed a small housing for the antenna that resembles those on WiFi routers, so it folds out upwards. Then you could keep the camera at the tip of that antenna!
    You could also replace the default keycaps with a custom mechanical or otherwise keyboard! (You could snap in and out a quieter low profile and a mechanical keyboard if you are using it in a library or smth). You could also use the hinges for a custom keyboard cover when transporting it.

    • @joneinarmattiasvisser6113
      @joneinarmattiasvisser6113 Рік тому +1

      I have a wifi antenna I can just plug into usb

    • @Gertzerroz
      @Gertzerroz 9 місяців тому +4

      or just don't remove the screen and connect an external mouse and keyboard that's far better than the trackpad and keyboard on the macbook.

    • @vaffangool9196
      @vaffangool9196 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Gertzerroz
      *Magic keyboard isn't backlit* and the magic mouse _suuucks._ MacBook keys and track pad is the far better-and less wasteful-solution.

  • @giousy02
    @giousy02 Рік тому +1751

    When you said the only downside is you can’t use Wi-Fi or Bluetooth cause of the antenna placement i was like “no way Luke is gonna stop at this”. And like always you didn’t disappoint ❤

    • @nearcz533
      @nearcz533 Рік тому +49

      I don't get why he didn't use a small usb dongle for WIFI and Bluetooth... Seems so much simpler to do.

    • @jarboer
      @jarboer Рік тому +75

      @@nearcz533one downside is you lose a USB port. The way he did it has really no downsides aside from a bit of extra work

    • @mattwilson8509
      @mattwilson8509 Рік тому +15

      @@jarboerbut it’s never leaving your desk anyways. Not really a inconvenience to add a usb hub

    • @lukemiani
      @lukemiani  Рік тому +92

      You know me 😆

    • @meandmyEV
      @meandmyEV Рік тому

      @@nearcz533I would probably go with a networking dongle too but if you only spend $60 on the machine, you might not want to spend another $20 for a dongle. That said, this machine has a/c wifi and Bluetooth 4 so you could get much more modern specs, especially BT, with a dongle.

  • @AshishBeck
    @AshishBeck Рік тому +503

    The guy who sold him the MacBook for $60 watching this right now: 👁️👄👁️

    • @thelthrythquezada8397
      @thelthrythquezada8397 6 місяців тому +2

      lol

    • @truetruth2322
      @truetruth2322 6 місяців тому +7

      Sucking his teeth

    • @HappyGaminz
      @HappyGaminz 4 місяці тому +1

      @@truetruth2322 I have never heard this saying in my life.

    • @ayosj99
      @ayosj99 4 місяці тому +1

      @@HappyGaminz your life must be quite short up to this point then

    • @acatinatux9601
      @acatinatux9601 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ayosj99 it really is not a common phrase

  • @sir.fender6034
    @sir.fender6034 Рік тому +702

    I did the same thing to a gaming laptop. I ripped the screen off and connected it to a good monitor. Funny thing, the battery life almost doubled with no monitor attached.

    • @pulkitdhanraj130
      @pulkitdhanraj130 Рік тому +67

      another good thing is that you can upgrade the screen in a few years without needing to replace the entire machine, cool stuff

    • @eomoran
      @eomoran Рік тому +19

      Shocker

    • @aleckravt3848
      @aleckravt3848 Рік тому +29

      You could just close the screen and connect 2nd monitor w/o ripping off the screen.

    • @IsaacShoebottom
      @IsaacShoebottom Рік тому

      @@aleckravt3848 If the display was broken, there is almost no chance you could find a screen that isn't terrible for a reasonable price. At least macbooks have the advantage of having fewer SKUs so the displays are available, even at high prices. A random gaming laptop has no such luxury.

    • @Spike0189
      @Spike0189 Рік тому +30

      Like from 8 minutes to 16?

  • @TechTipsUSA
    @TechTipsUSA Рік тому +285

    Note:
    On many laptops you can use the internal webcam cable as an extra usb port, because integrated web cams are mostly usb devices, you will need to solder on a usb port and figure out which leads are which.

    • @LordSandwichII
      @LordSandwichII Рік тому +10

      This is good to know, as I'm trying to build a "dumb terminal" laptop.

    • @TechnicallyTechguy
      @TechnicallyTechguy Рік тому +6

      Right.. But have you torn a mac down? Have fun ripping that cord apart for a USB. I personally get paid more than... Minimum. So.. to spend 2 hours on an extra USB, that is... what taped? floppy? Nah, ill spend 4.99 on the adapter at good will. (JUST bought a new apple keyboard and magic mouse for 10.99 at a good will, they still retail for over 100$ when the old mouse is now useless)

    • @thecianinator
      @thecianinator Рік тому +14

      You're not LTT

    • @stuart6478
      @stuart6478 Рік тому +12

      why do people always get negative about some cheap trash turned into SOMETHING lol it's pathetic

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 Рік тому +6

      ​@@TechnicallyTechguy dude it is four wires and you can even repurpose the connector. There is probably somewhere in Taipei or Shenzhen that'll sell you ready made cable. Repurposing commodity hardware is really worthwhile from an economic and environmental standpoint.
      Think of a plastic clamshell with a place and internally routed cable to hold the smartphone built into the hinge (see old olivetti typewriter keyboard covers for reference).
      I think I'll design one of these, actually. Might even investigate how to repurpose the screen bus, it must be something fairly standards based.

  • @cesarespinozaspain
    @cesarespinozaspain Рік тому +339

    A friend of mine did the same thing with a touch bar 13 inch, she also made a DIY desk and made a slot in the front were it sits flush with the top of the desk, it has space in the sides for the connections and room underneath for cooling, but the top of the desk hides it. The result is a slick as hell desk with built in Macbook pro and older studio display. It looks like it came out of a cyberpunk movie.

    • @DPfen
      @DPfen Рік тому +26

      That sounds sweet. Would love to see a photo of that!

    • @t20594
      @t20594 Рік тому +21

      Photos or it didn’t happen

    • @gordonoboh833
      @gordonoboh833 Рік тому +13

      @@t20594 was going to say this

    • @ypesh
      @ypesh Рік тому +5

      🎉 definitely would love to see pics!

    • @youngken
      @youngken Рік тому +3

      Me too, id love to see a photo please😭

  • @sammy0boi
    @sammy0boi Рік тому +15

    Fantastic video! You inspired me to try with an old MacBook I had with a broken screen - now I have a headless Mac with Wi-Fi!! 🙌🏻😊

  • @Evie0133
    @Evie0133 Рік тому +663

    headless MacBooks are pretty dope, it's like having a Mac Mini and a Magic Keyboard (w/ Touch ID for some Macs) + Trackpad combo rolled into one, a neat way of reusing MacBooks with smashed displays, and potentially better than the Mac Mini if you prefer your MacBook's IO :D

    • @TimurTripp2
      @TimurTripp2 Рік тому +60

      Built-in UPS as well

    • @gordonoboh833
      @gordonoboh833 Рік тому +9

      hopefully, the prices don't get inflated because of this headless idea.

    • @D38AS3R
      @D38AS3R Рік тому +8

      And MacBook speakers are pretty great too!
      And you'll still have ports available.

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto Рік тому +3

      Agreed 👍 🎉😂😅
      If we can run these computers for a while longer. That’s a bonus for all of us. ❤
      Now to find a used broken MacBook 💻 Pro. 😂

    • @leanlifer
      @leanlifer Рік тому +5

      But the thing is a lot of these headless units have their board repaired and probably will not last long.
      Given M2 Mac mini is so cheap, there isn't much reason to still buy these units.

  • @vincentwindels210
    @vincentwindels210 Рік тому +19

    If I were to go so far as to disassemble the MacBook, I wouldn't stop there, and I'd proceed to enhance the cooling performance directly, maybe in a larger or open case. It's possible that you could still use or remove the keyboard separately. I would approach the speakers in the same way. It would involve more effort, but it could really maximize the potential.

    • @jadesded
      @jadesded Рік тому +2

      Especially with a custom/purposeful case like those people who rip apart chromebooks and use their guts like raspberry pi's. Definitely would be a fun productive experiment with a sensible endgoal, unlike removing a screen and then plugging in a monitor to an input that was there the whole time & calling it a build lol

  • @sunpapa9107
    @sunpapa9107 Рік тому +19

    Hey Luke...I've been rebuilding these for a few years for family and friends. I place the antenna in a piece of White PVC with a couple of Black end caps. I stuff the LCD hinges into the end caps and screw them back down like normal. It comes out looking real professional and it works great. I call my Frankenstein Apple creation "The Mac Skinny"

    • @rickylee2022
      @rickylee2022 18 днів тому

      May I see how it looked like? Any shared links?

  • @roman2374
    @roman2374 Рік тому +3

    I’ve seen someone who integrated a headless MacBook into a desk so you have the trackpad and keyboard integrated into the surface of the desk top and a nice display with that, was the cleanest set up I think I’ve ever seen 😮

  • @NEConforti
    @NEConforti Рік тому +185

    Ran my first "headless" MacBook around 2011, was too broke to afford a full blown rig and wanted to start learning FCP. Simpler times.

    • @lukemiani
      @lukemiani  Рік тому +27

      Good old Ivy Bridge days

    • @NEConforti
      @NEConforti Рік тому +2

      @@lukemiani I miss those days dearly. But I'd be lying if I said I wasn't enjoying the M.

    • @Pasi123
      @Pasi123 Рік тому +3

      @@lukemiani Sandy Bridge. Ivy Bridge was released in 2012

    • @ekinteko
      @ekinteko Рік тому +3

      @@lukemiani Did you get the inspiration for this from the Gameboy Macro?
      People have been taking a Nintendo DS Lite, ripping off the top screen, to have something slim and tiny to shove into their pockets that can be hacked and play games from the DS, GBA, GBC, Turbografx, Sega Master, NES, and Atari. It's pretty cool.

  • @Widderic
    @Widderic Рік тому +23

    I found a screen for my 15" MBP Mid 2014 on Ebay for 110 bucks! I've kept this sucker alive for almost a decade. It's been through 3 batteries, some new thermal paste, and an upgraded SSD. And I'm still rocking High Sierra because I wanted to keep using my 32 but applications like Final Cut 7 and Reason 4.

  • @mohsscale4220
    @mohsscale4220 Рік тому +15

    Nice idea. Another Mac saved from the dump!
    Beware of blocking the fan vent with the taped-on antenna, though.

  • @Metal_Face_Doom
    @Metal_Face_Doom 9 місяців тому +1

    I just cracked the lcd on my 2019 MBP. It was in mint condition prior to it's fall to the concrete.
    It's been working fine while tethered to my tv via HDMI cable.
    I can't wait to remove the cracked screen!!! Thanks for this video! 🙏

  • @AwesumIndustrys
    @AwesumIndustrys Рік тому +243

    We need this form factor to be more sold regularly. Let’s bring back the Commodore 64 and Apple II style of computer.

    • @hishnash
      @hishnash Рік тому +13

      Would be epic, Apple IV (we had the Apple III already).
      They should have done that rather than the macPro just to troll people. ...

    • @TheChipmunk2008
      @TheChipmunk2008 Рік тому +7

      @@hishnash Steve Wozniak would love that... jony, notsomuch

    • @tim-hill
      @tim-hill Рік тому +2

      I thought this looked familiar!

    • @hrissan
      @hrissan Рік тому +5

      Looks like ZX spectrum (Sinclair Z80 computer) from 90-s, very popular in low price segment😹

    • @TheChipmunk2008
      @TheChipmunk2008 Рік тому +2

      @@hrissan 80s

  • @efr89
    @efr89 Рік тому +5

    I think another cool use case is to send the screen via WiFi to your TV. Sure the FPS / refresh rate might not be awesome but for simple tasks that's quite a cool couch setup where you can control everything via the inbuilt keyboard and trackpad and don't need to worry about a HDMI cable you can slip over.

  • @Ybalrid
    @Ybalrid Рік тому +10

    what I find funny is that by doing so you replicate the "wedge" form factor of the early personal computers! (apple 2, c64, atari, amiga...) from the 80's

  • @MadMathMike
    @MadMathMike Рік тому +9

    As awesome as this was, what I appreciated the most was the last few minutes of this video. This is right-to-repair. Love it. ❤️

  • @petekropf5335
    @petekropf5335 Рік тому +23

    Didn't think I would enjoy this one as this is something I would not do, well, not before I watched. Thanks Luke, once again providing content for us that we did not know we needed or at least needed to know but do, keep on with the excellent work!

  • @artprojectsnz
    @artprojectsnz Рік тому +2

    Genius! LOVE that you can 'upcycle' a Mac - mine go for years and years and I often try and repurpose - but this is so dope!! Well done. JPMusic.

  • @crystalchaos462
    @crystalchaos462 Рік тому +9

    I basically did this for a few years with my white MacBook when the screen went bad. The Mini-DVI port was anything but sturdy though. The best option was to get a mini-DVI-to-HDMI cable instead of using one that was adapted because the box portion of the setup was too heavy for the connection over long-term use.

  • @CynderPCTech
    @CynderPCTech 9 днів тому

    Hey Luke just discovered your channel the other day. I am using a similar macbook right now, 2013 MBP even down to the motherboard standoff being broken. I got the computer for $15 at my university salvage tech sale. I had to buy a battery and a charger for it. Found a battery on amazon with good reviews and a charger with good reviews, overall have about $100 into it. My first Mac device, and it prompted me to order a 2024 M4 MBP. It's getting delivered today. I cannot believe that I have been missing out on all of this my whole life. Loving the videos, you provide refreshing topics, that are not reused. Keep it up man.

  • @ugniuszukas1776
    @ugniuszukas1776 Рік тому +86

    For anyone planning to do this i have some tips for you:
    1. Macbooks pros from 2016 and never including mba from 2018 have antenas built in at the lower portion of the laptop so when you remove display you don’t have to worry about it.
    2. Also on these never models the keyboards backlight stops working when you remove display because it needs the ambient sensor which is in the display. (And theres no way to force backlight on)
    Other than this its a great way to have macbook experience on a budget😁

    • @emberavenge7162
      @emberavenge7162 Рік тому +1

      Do you still recommend doing this? I'm thinking of buying a laptop for programming work and yeah it'd be great to swap between devices on my monitor

    • @ugniuszukas1776
      @ugniuszukas1776 Рік тому

      @@emberavenge7162 It depends on the macbook model, and the price you could get it for. I would really recommend m1 air or pro macbooks with damaged screens. Because they are really powerfull and dont have any issues with keyboards.

    • @rainerzufall9627
      @rainerzufall9627 11 місяців тому

      Thanks! Do you know if a headless mbp 2021 16 M1 Pro would work?

    • @ugniuszukas1776
      @ugniuszukas1776 11 місяців тому

      @@rainerzufall9627 yes they work perfectly and screens are easy to remove.

    • @MrMosoani
      @MrMosoani 8 місяців тому

      what about A1502's wifi antennas?

  • @Mo.Faried
    @Mo.Faried Рік тому +2

    I loved that you didn't give up on the antenna. Actually I believe all the laptops should be modular and this idea is not new, even in mobile phones, but companies find this idea will be thwarting to innovation and will make them lose the edge to other compatitors. Some companies are better at durability, like thinkpads, others focus on wieght reduction, and some other focus on the design and has their own silicon like macs now.

  • @manaphyex
    @manaphyex Рік тому +223

    I think 'Headless' M1 13 MacBook Air is better than M1 Mac mini. You even don't need to buy a keyboard and a trackpad separately.

    • @42cosmonauts
      @42cosmonauts Рік тому +13

      Lack of a fan could be a factor for people using high performance programs like for video editing

    • @JohnSmith-pn2vl
      @JohnSmith-pn2vl Рік тому

      no, video editing does not need high performance at all, just time, which is not the case with any apple silicon machine because of dedicated chips for that purpose, no issue@@42cosmonauts

    • @jacksonkuzmic
      @jacksonkuzmic Рік тому +23

      @@42cosmonautsif you need a fan than you could use the 13 inch m1 pro

    • @scottphardin
      @scottphardin Рік тому +14

      @@jacksonkuzmicheadless M1 Pro 13. Great idea!

    • @moekhdeir
      @moekhdeir Рік тому

      My 13' M1 Pro had a flex gate problem, I did the same mod last year and I didn't even know that it was a thing. Coolest thing ever! @@scottphardin

  • @starman5757gg
    @starman5757gg Рік тому +1

    I did the same, only got the body without the screen- already 'headless ',lol.
    Then bought the antenna from China. Works great. Thanks for your cool vids, I've followed your advice many times.

  • @nyc90
    @nyc90 Рік тому +64

    I'd be curious to see this done with a modern Mac, if it's still possible. You could have power, display, and ethernet over a single usb-c cable making for a pretty sleek desktop solution.

    • @jcw1569
      @jcw1569 Рік тому +13

      Yes, I did this with a 2020 MBP with a blown LED fuse.

    • @OskarBlomkvist
      @OskarBlomkvist Рік тому +16

      Yes, and it's actually easier on those models because the antenna bar is located in the top-case as a separate part.

    • @cosettapessa6417
      @cosettapessa6417 Рік тому +1

      @@jcw1569m soc or intel?

    • @jcw1569
      @jcw1569 Рік тому

      @@cosettapessa6417 apple silicon

    • @the2wheelmillennial117
      @the2wheelmillennial117 Рік тому +1

      I’ve done with an m1 air

  • @Carlito_Sway
    @Carlito_Sway Рік тому +2

    I have done this- or something similar- with two different Macbooks (an ooold, pre-unibody MacBook Pro and a 2012 MacBook Air) and I've had great results! In each case, the screen cracked but the computer otherwise functioned fine. The old MBP was the core of my music production and arranging business from 2008-2020, and the Air is still in service as an ersatz HTPC! I didn't bother to remove the dead screens- I just run in clamshell mode and use a wireless keyboard and mouse- but as long as the computers stay cool and the batteries don't explode, they work pretty darn well!

  • @aedav
    @aedav Рік тому +7

    Maybe if you use a heat shrink sleeve instead of electric tape you get a cleaner look, and it’s not that expensive. Just be careful not to apply too much heat as to damage the hinge or the antenna components.

  • @pulkitdhanraj130
    @pulkitdhanraj130 Рік тому +2

    Another advantage I can think of is that this setup has a UPS by default, so in case of a power failure it could be useful

  • @mattsanchez4893
    @mattsanchez4893 Рік тому +13

    What a great idea and video…love the step by step and your enthusiasm, why I like this channel !!! Also amazing how easy it was to work on/ upgrade those old machines.

    • @lukemiani
      @lukemiani  Рік тому +5

      Glad you enjoyed! These older machines sure have a lot of potential even today!

  • @notmyname6452
    @notmyname6452 Рік тому +2

    Scooped up a m1 air recently (broken screen), and was stuck on the fence trying to decide if it's worth the 200 to fix it up. Talk about perfect timing with this video.
    There's still enough value to warrant the replacement but I love the execution here. Very tempted to sell my Mac mini and switch to this type of setup. Super clean. There's definitely an opportunity for someone to start a little business selling the antennae covers. I'll be your first (or I guess second) customer.

  • @budgetkeyboardist
    @budgetkeyboardist Рік тому +8

    I've thought about doing this before, but thought I'd screw it up. Great video as always. One additional thought - I use an Apple wireless keyboard and a magic trackpad on my desktop Mac, and I definitely prefer to have the trackpad to the right side of the keyboard instead of underneath it. But I have no problems using a laptop.

    • @jaa928
      @jaa928 Рік тому

      You can do it! Luke's videos and iFixit or others make it accessible, if not easy.

  • @aettic
    @aettic Рік тому +3

    I agree that 3D Printing a nice housing for the wifi would be awesome. Beyond that, I wouldn't change a thing. I love this idea, and honestly I think it looks super cool without the display. Also didn't know you could turn an old iMac into a display - I've got one sitting around and that would be the perfect fate for it if the board ever fails.

  • @karinalebedeva7335
    @karinalebedeva7335 Рік тому +5

    I think that what you are doing is a great example of how people and companies should approach this issue. I find it a very sad trend that now electronics are ridiculously difficult to fix. It’s easier to buy a new one to replace the broken one.
    I think that the only flexible devices to fix and upgrade are PCs where you can have access to all components. And for more mobile devices sometimes it’s even difficult to change the battery.

    • @jorper2526
      @jorper2526 Рік тому +1

      This is why everyone should consider Framework Laptops if they are purchasing a new laptop, IMO. Will it beat out a new macbook in efficiency? No. But it has the benefit of having sanely priced replacement parts and tutorials for everything. You can even upgrade the entire system board to a new generation. Oh, and what do you do with the old board?.. Well, you can buy.. Or 3D print a case for it and stick it behind a TV as a small media device.
      OEMs, Apple included need incentive to change their practices which just creates e-waste.

  • @Evan-xk1cx
    @Evan-xk1cx 6 місяців тому

    Brilliant concept and execution. I have a broken screen MacBook and many monitors, definitely going to try this project out.

  • @walpoleandworcester
    @walpoleandworcester Рік тому +11

    I’ve heard about these and it’s amazing what people are able to do with spare MacBook parts! Glad to see these older machines be reused into something like this.

  • @ABChinese
    @ABChinese Рік тому

    This has been popular in China for several years now. I jumped on this last year with a 13" M1 MacBook pro, the last guy already did the hard work of removing the screen and I bought it for only $360. Super good deal

  • @hi55us2
    @hi55us2 Рік тому +17

    Love the subtle dig at Apple towards the end. They really need to make their products more repairable, could become a huge selling point.

    • @pontiacg445
      @pontiacg445 11 місяців тому +3

      No it wouldn't, and no they don't. It's a fashion accessory and therefore any logic and reason surrounding it goes right out the window. Any other laptop is plastic and can bounce around loose in the trunk of a car for a decade and be just fine, a macbook blows the screen out if you set a coffee mug on top of it and everyone knows it. People with less brains and more money will still buy them, they make them less repairable every generation and they still sell.
      Or do you actually think it's some big secret that they make them intentionally fragile and also hard to repair?

  • @floatingshoppinglist5193
    @floatingshoppinglist5193 Рік тому +2

    genius. props to the person who came up with this "trend" or good idea

    • @Astr0Dad
      @Astr0Dad 8 місяців тому

      People have been doing this with laptops for over 20 years. I guess apple users have just discovered this now 😅

  • @gaboro24
    @gaboro24 Рік тому +9

    Nice work. If you were printing a case for the antennas, it would be interesting to save and integrate the camera as well, from a bottom-up angle like you can find it in some huawei laptops.

    • @vitaminjuk
      @vitaminjuk Рік тому +1

      Yeah, I was thinking he should have kept it to be a nostril-cam too! Oh well

  • @druthedj
    @druthedj Рік тому

    No ways!! This is actually quite clever!! Definitely gonna try this with one of my older damaged MacBooks

  • @patrickmunyi
    @patrickmunyi Рік тому +15

    Great video. As for the makeshift wireless housing, try not to cover the cooling vents 😃

  • @5lip5pace
    @5lip5pace Рік тому +2

    Imagine apple releasing an OS update that bricks units that dont detect a primary display

  • @dennisud
    @dennisud Рік тому +5

    Apple has always had a need to control their products, even after they have sold it or their warranty expires. I'm highly anticipating whether they will be forced to become more customer friendly in allowing their future products easier to fix by their customers. Love how this one went. That black section that originally housed the hinges, camera and antenna hookups, can't that section be used or 3D copied to make that area more clean.

    • @zizlog_sound
      @zizlog_sound Рік тому

      Apple needs to become customer friendly to begin with.

  • @Bearsarecats
    @Bearsarecats Рік тому +1

    I have absolutely no use for this and have loved every second of it

  • @sterol72
    @sterol72 Рік тому +62

    It is Apple’s entire business model to make you buy a new machine when your new one is broken. Apple green washes like all the other big corporations. Your last video proves the point of how hard they make it to repair or upgrade. Very difficult to break through the walled garden. Really sad state of affairs as we drown in all the e-waste. Thanks for your and Rossman’s advocacy on this subject!

    • @level16gmbh83
      @level16gmbh83 Рік тому +7

      You are absolutely right. I have been selling new Apple computers and repairing Macs as a certified technician for over 14 years. I hear time and time again from my customers that they have been told at the Apple Store that their Mac is obsolete at 5 years or more of use. This is how Apple sells new computers, but it is simply a lie and anything but honest or in the interest of the environment.
      In my consultations with customers, I communicate quite differently because judging a Mac by age is wrong. I judge a Mac by its compatibility with the current operating system. And even that doesn't matter if the customer still gets on well with an older macOS version and can do everything with it. So I repair Macs much more often than I sell new ones because that is more economical for the customers, as long as the performance of their Mac is still sufficient.
      In fact, most users only use Safari, Mail, Photos, Pages/Word, and a few other apps. Nothing that would require enormous performance. And very few people need an M2 for that if the CPU was hardly used to capacity with an i5/i7.

    • @athaphian
      @athaphian Рік тому

      @@level16gmbh83 It baffles me that customers shell out 1500+ dollars for a macbook while they could perfectly live with a 250 dollar chromebook...

    • @rustyschackleford5800
      @rustyschackleford5800 Рік тому +2

      What's really most important to Apple is the price of their stock. They have to extract as much money from customers as possible, every quarter, to protect shareholder value.

    • @zakofrx
      @zakofrx Рік тому

      All while they scream at public for hurting the world while claiming they are the pure ones saving it...
      Like electric cars not being repaired and keeping silent about needing new battery packs all the time for extreme prices..
      They could use Hydrogen with a normal engine but that would mean people could fix their cars and fill them as they want for travel over any distance...
      They instead want to make new cars into current phones..
      No repair, your every bit of info monitored and your controlled by the product creator..

    • @vetrixfx9264
      @vetrixfx9264 Рік тому

      @@level16gmbh83 i think its funny how "fast" Macs get obsolete (officially). I mean I still could use a 2010 laptop normally for these tasks you mentioned, if it came with an i5 (maybe even higher-tier C2D) when upgraded to an SSD and more RAM, as long as it runs Linux or Windows. 2010 MacBook Pros didn't get a new macOS since 2017 and the last security update was 2020. Atleast with Intel Macs you have the option possibility to install Windows/Linux, but I don't wanna know how this will work out with Apple Silicon Macs

  • @juliegahn1534
    @juliegahn1534 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. Totally agree with your points that replacement parts need to be affordable and accessible. Thanks for what you're doing to help us reuse, reduce and recycle!

  • @RaddDronzy
    @RaddDronzy Рік тому +37

    Headless laptops is the proof that general public cares about the environment more then the trillion dollar company.

    • @raunak8889
      @raunak8889 5 місяців тому +1

      Nah we care about money

  • @steph_in_tech
    @steph_in_tech 2 місяці тому

    I can say with confidence that your channel has increased my creativity so much. Good job Luke!!❤

  • @kartikkaushik9811
    @kartikkaushik9811 Рік тому +11

    Apple screens are ridiculously expensive because Apple does everything in their power to limit/destroy the repair market. They claim to care about the environment until it comes to letting people fix their stuff for a reasonable cost

  • @klauszinser
    @klauszinser 9 місяців тому

    It's very good that you brought this up. I did not expect that it's working that easy (that you can just remove the display).

  • @bigsean6045
    @bigsean6045 Рік тому +5

    Amazing video Luke!
    I was happy when you didn't simply give up and used ethernet but tried to make wi-fi work as that is in the spirit of this channel.
    The only downside to what's shown in the video is that it completely blocks out the fans and the cooling so I can imagine that Intel chip running really hot.
    I'm sure you'd figure something out though

    • @Thomas_Bannon
      @Thomas_Bannon Рік тому +3

      That's the factory location of that clutch cover so it's not blocking any more that it would with the screen still on.

    • @XPimKossibleX
      @XPimKossibleX Рік тому +1

      @@Thomas_Bannon With the screen on it's not actually touching, it's a round thing that lets air through above and below. Not ideal but it's the only vent on the device...

  • @Iskelderon
    @Iskelderon 4 місяці тому +1

    You can always glue a strip of silver plastic from the craft supply store onto the antenna instead of that electrical tape to give it a cleaner look.

  • @RickeyViner
    @RickeyViner Рік тому +6

    Your simple answer to a simple situation probably just revolutionized computing. Here is a great idea that can be done by practically anyone. Good job and thanks for sharing!

  • @This-nerd-house
    @This-nerd-house 10 місяців тому

    I have my old 2012 MBP running like a beast 24/7 as a home server. It runs Plex mainly, used to run home assistant until I upgraded to a Synology. But the MBP is still active and running some random things along with Plex. Docked in a vertical stand, use an external monitor. Also pulled the battery out after it started puffing up. 11 years old and this thing is still a beast!

  • @theabyssaldemon
    @theabyssaldemon Рік тому +5

    Hi Luke, you've convinced me to try my hand at doing one of these headless MacBook projects.
    Most headless Macs I've seen are older, and I found a banging deal on a 2020 w/touchbar with only the two usb-c ports on it. Do you know of any limitations on newer MacBooks for this?

  • @fridaycaliforniaa236
    @fridaycaliforniaa236 2 місяці тому +1

    It's almost like what was done with the first Atari, Amstrad or Commodore computers : you have the keyboard that acts as a computer XD. Apart from the part that it has a battery, you basically created the modern version of a 2600XT or a C64 😂

  • @Epicgamer_Mac
    @Epicgamer_Mac Рік тому +21

    Yes I believe Apple needs to make parts more available. While this is a cool mod that I’d certainly do to retain a machine’s usability, I would much prefer a full MacBook as I could connect it to a monitor the same way.
    Also Luke, where do you get the background music for your videos?

    • @ishredder4006
      @ishredder4006 Рік тому +2

      scarcity breeds more profit.

    • @hishnash
      @hishnash Рік тому +3

      Providing parts for 10 year old Macs is not as easy as you might think. The production lines that produced those screens have long since moved on, so if you wanted to fire them back up there would be a large overhead in cost making the per screen cost much much higher than would be acceptable (as the number of displays they would produce would be low).
      For this situation of old devices what would be better would be to provide the schematics and CAD files etc with a license to that third party vendors could go out and make alternative parts (not OEM).
      With the specs having a license that others could target (legally) im sure some companies would figure out how to make little adaptors to that you could attache more commodity display panels without needed to fire up a dedicated production line again.

    • @bb5242
      @bb5242 Рік тому +3

      Apple gives not a shit about making their crap fixable

    • @hishnash
      @hishnash Рік тому +1

      @@bb5242 Not true apple care a lot about this, but only when it is themselves doing the fixing.
      When you get a warranty replacement you are not getting a new product you are getting a refurbished product (in a new case) that fixability saves apple a LOT of money compared to taking a new product of the production line and giving it to you.
      This is why apple prefure skews (lots of them) over glue, it saves them money in the long term.

    • @ishredder4006
      @ishredder4006 Рік тому

      @@hishnash exactly

  • @bradjasperson134
    @bradjasperson134 9 місяців тому

    There are some AR glasses you could plug in that would act as an external display. That way you could maintain the portability of a laptop and have full privacy to boot.

  • @crowlsyong
    @crowlsyong Рік тому +3

    Man, this is pretty great. Thanks for putting this out in the world and for mentioning right to repair. Have a nice day.

  • @alanmusselwhite1405
    @alanmusselwhite1405 Місяць тому

    Many years ago I had a Macbook air 11" 2011 and the display cracked and ended up non functional. I had a 70" TV a 3 meter HDMI cable and a Display port to HDMI adapter to hook it up. It was a no brainer. Love your videos keep it up!

  • @pathfinderpolska
    @pathfinderpolska Рік тому +4

    Can you connect an iPad pro as an external screen and 3D print a hinge that will stand for the iPad?

  • @toddverbeek5113
    @toddverbeek5113 10 місяців тому

    I’ve done this sort of thing a few times over the years, with assorted laptops. The most recent example (sort of) was a Surface Pro with a cracked screen. This completely wrecks the touch and stylus input, but with the keyboard/trackpad attached it was still a reasonably useful desktop computer, and aside from the crack, the super-sharp display still worked. So I added a big external monitor, a proper wireless mouse, and VOILA: a dual screen desktop computer!

  • @EugeneKreger
    @EugeneKreger Рік тому +3

    Would be interesting to see if keyboard and trackpad could be used separately as input devises on another machines (for example, on Windows/Linux), so that you can switch between different OS's (and hardware) using MacBooks input devices.

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall Рік тому

    Are you serious? So creative .❤ Dude… I've been a long-time fan and you've outdone yourself. Luke, I'm serious. What incentive you've shown me. Genius.

  • @hishnash
    @hishnash Рік тому +5

    Even better than 3D printed plastic would be a nice bit of hard wood, you could hide the antenna inside and it would look sweet!.
    Maybe even extract the face time camera as well and put it down there with a little bump so that it looks in your direction (all be it up your nose) it would be a very nice modification.

  • @AppleToolsTech
    @AppleToolsTech Рік тому

    Been doing that for years... removing the broken display is the cheapest way to bring a cracked laptop back to life. Get a long HDMI cable and use it with your TV or just hook up and old display... Great tutorial!

  • @GeorgieChaos
    @GeorgieChaos Рік тому +1

    Two minor form-factor adjustments I'd like to see: IIRC a major part of the ventilation is housed behind the monitor hinge so I'd be interested to see how the custom piece takes that feature into account.
    Also, at risk of stating the obvious, there's a free hinge bracket just going spare at the top of the headless unit. Seems like the perfect place to mount a flip-down foot bar to raise the back edge for improved cooling and a more ergonomic typing angle.

  • @OnkyoGrady
    @OnkyoGrady 11 місяців тому

    you could throw an LED strip in that hinge area to cover it instead of just plastic. Cover the strip in a diffusing channel guide, cut it very neatly, and it could easily look OEM-ish.

  • @riverwang5482
    @riverwang5482 Рік тому +1

    11:25 what a masterpiece!

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 6 місяців тому +1

    r/halftop is a subreddit on the website Reddit that specializes in laptops without their screens. I would have assumed apple did something to prevent this with their MacBooks but i guess not.

  • @jontrewfrombarry
    @jontrewfrombarry Рік тому +1

    pity you couldn't extend the camera cable and locate it about the monitor

  • @_..-.._..-.._
    @_..-.._..-.._ Рік тому

    Travel with it and just find monitors to use where you’re at, tv screens in hotel rooms etc. Headless MacBook is definitely a solution I would come up with.

  • @steevek
    @steevek 3 місяці тому

    a better idea: only to disconnect the tiny and flat connector shown at 4:23. wrap the connect with some isulation tape to prevent electrical short inside the macbook. And don't have to remove the faulty display unit from the macbook. Close the back cover by putting back all the screws. Then connect external display unit as shown in the video and here you go!

  • @Planettransit
    @Planettransit Рік тому +1

    This is an modern equvilant of an Apple II

  • @johnwilson8582
    @johnwilson8582 3 місяці тому

    Thanks to this video I was able to remove a trash screen on a Mid 2012 Macbook, then update it to Sonoma with OLCP, and it was all rady to go when the new screen arrived. Thank you.

  • @Austin-sw4vo
    @Austin-sw4vo Рік тому

    Great demonstration Luke. Imma heading to the store and getting the screen replacement. And if it's overpriced I would try your guidance. Hopefully not thing worse happens.

  • @fleonard4
    @fleonard4 Рік тому +1

    It's not just Apple. I ran a Dell for years, that I got for free, hooked to my TV using Kodi. I still have it somewhere, but the only thing on it that's broken is the display. All laptops have this issue. I now have a Mac Mini hooked to my TV. It's a Smart TV, but the Smart TV OS sucks beyond belief, so I don't use it. I got a 2012 Mac Mini just for the TV. Apple TV sucks too. Not as bad as a Smart TV, but you really can't beat a Mac Mini.

  • @larryh9525
    @larryh9525 Рік тому

    This is the perfect mod for someone with a middle school kid who wants a Mac for homework. It is an excellent video, showing how folks with minimal technical skills can do this.

  • @Mantikal
    @Mantikal Рік тому +1

    You basically turned the mac book pro into a flattened out NUC PC that you can throw neatly into your backpack.

  • @JudePullen
    @JudePullen Рік тому

    Clicked for the Hack, stayed for the philosophy. Great video. Thanks!

  • @oidbio2565
    @oidbio2565 Рік тому

    Welp my comment is that I have an older MacBook which was top of the line in its day (so SSD) and I just couldn’t get rid of it but now I will use it for what it was intended instead of just a door stop! Thank you! Hopefully, I can deal with the antenna as beautifully as you did in this video!
    Addendum: Just saw your PRO TIP about the location of the antenna relocated to the base and now I will definitely be sporting a headless MacBook!

  • @10p6
    @10p6 Рік тому +1

    I have been doing this with Laptops for over 25 years, and have had a special Mac for over a decade that I will be doing a video on soon.

  • @steveworrell
    @steveworrell Рік тому

    Sometimes YT just realllly wants me to see a video. I ignored this video about 12 times already. I clicked just to shut YT up.
    Good video, stayed to watch it all.

  • @theofs4456
    @theofs4456 Рік тому

    3D printing the housing/mount for the WiFi antenna sounds like a great side hustle idea...

  • @OSGamer70
    @OSGamer70 Рік тому

    The "Wow Factor" of this video is 100% Amazing!!

  • @lovedeathdisco
    @lovedeathdisco Рік тому

    love the A1398 and as someone who loves trackpad and hates mouse, this would be super ideal for certain studio applications in the future. sick hack, never seen it, thanks for sharing.

  • @geekytechycool
    @geekytechycool Рік тому

    I mean, this isn't a new concept but I still love it. Cheap tech savvy folks have been doing this for years ;-) ultimate case of Reduce-Reuse-Recycle!
    I did this with a Lenovo M14 recently where the top panel was dented all to hell and the screen was cracked. Was able to run the laptop "headless" and keep all the functionality including the fingerprint reader!
    Almost any modern machine that has a display output can be turned into a little desktop, or even better, a hidden desktop mounted behind a monitor/TV for a cool experience.

  • @gkcadadr
    @gkcadadr 11 місяців тому

    What is kinda hilarious is, this really reminds me of the 80s microcomputers like initial macs and commodores and others, (which for those who don’t know, had the motherboard and most peripherals integrated in a single case that also had the keyboard built in, pretty machines do look them up).

  • @Bane_Amesta
    @Bane_Amesta Рік тому

    I did this with a broken Windows laptop, and it works very well. I taped the Wi-Fi antenna into the battery space (since I got the laptop without the battery) and yes, it works. Honestly I think is a nice way to avoid e-waste which is always nice.

  • @sego209
    @sego209 Рік тому

    Ten years ago, My brother accidentally broke my laptop screen but everything else was fully functional. So i did this exact set up by connecting the HDMI cable to the tv and it worked great. I kinda wish this was a new trend in the industry. Reminds me of the old 80's computers where you just hook up to a tv set.

  • @KlavierGayming
    @KlavierGayming Рік тому

    A thin, small form factor desktop with io, keyboard and trackpad built in? This is an amazing way to recycle a macbook.

  • @ThePC007
    @ThePC007 Рік тому +1

    Regarding battery health, you should probably install Al Dente on a machine like this to prevent the battery from swelling from being close to 100 % all the time.

  • @Gnsdtc
    @Gnsdtc Рік тому +1

    This is the most fun LM video ever!

  • @massimodemajo
    @massimodemajo Рік тому

    Legend! To cover the tape, I would try one of those plastic spine bars for binding unpunched papers. I'm not sure you can find it with the right height, but it could be a cheap solution. 😉