I’m watching this while my 6 months M2 MacBook Air died for no reason. Service Center suggested a logic board repair. I’ve no faith that this will even cross 2 years mark.
maybe go for an m1 macbook air, same performance basically and much better handling heat. been using mine since 2020 and it's still going strong with 91% battery health
@@nintendork07 I already have one for my wife, bought it when it was released. That broke down with a clear warning for battery service in the very first year. Got it fixed. Since then, it's fine so far. Point is, these machines are not very reliable as we think they are.
Daughter's 2022 Macbook Pro has the black screen that will not work, works with an external display. It's really dissapointing how bad quality control has become at Apple. What a shame. Despite the computer failing, I really enjoyed your video!
@@nilomyki I am finding with modern high density MLCC caps it's just the fact that there's so many of them on these boards and they have sensitivity to physical shock above and beyond their already somewhat-delicate nature due to the very high VuF densities.
$3 Trillion, thats how rich the company is and they can't can get design a motherboard, its a a shame how they are using inferior capacitors and there is not safety for the SOC in case of a short.
Quality video! Sponsorship actually added value here, acting as a character of the show. As an owner of a dead MacBook 12" I take this kind of videos seriously.
I wished a repair shop like yours existed in my area. I took my MacBook Air to an authorized vendor and he told me that there was liquid damage. He wanted €650 for repair. There was definitely no liquid damage, which I could prove by opening the device myself. I cleaned the logic board with isopropanol and it lived on for 5 years. Sadly, it's dead now.
Heat is what makes these ceramic caps internally break and sometimes go open, most times just short. If you remove an already heat-treated ceramic from a donor board by heating it up again and then heating up again when soldering it back to the other board... You can just buy any ceramic capacitor with 10uF and 10+ Volts for that 3V3 power rail. And if the 10uF / 25V are unavailable or too short to fit on the pads, just buy 35V types or even 50V types. No problems there!
Fascinating. My Macbook M1 had the screen go black after 14 months of light and limited use. 2 months after the warranty ended. Just one day it wasn't working. Apple store told me to buy another Macbook essentially, since it wasn't worth repairing (vs refurb) and I was out of warranty. I still have no idea what went wrong with it, so now it is used as a mini desktop for compiling iOS/Mac apps, and nothing else really. I can use an external monitor thankfully also
@@mojoblues66 Thank you. It could be a FlexGate issue I suppose, yeah, though I don't have the skill to fix it myself. I'll continue to use it as a mac mini for now, and just continue to curse Apple under my breath for existing.
IBoff is the best!! 😅 I could watch these all day! always trying to save the datas unless they are gone! Then you lost all your datas! Dead short to ground sleuthed with inifiray’s camera was awesome!
7:43 look at that great Keyboard imprint on the screen, that is an actual scuff imprint. Which Apple still haven't addressed on their newer MacBook's. You cannot remove that scuff. The only way is to get a screen protector.
@iBoff RCC Hey there, thanks for all of you, and your team's hard work saving, and developing kits for these machines! I recently bought an x-gpu project+nevbolt for my 2011 MBP 17' A1297 8,3. Your work with NVMe adapter kits and repair work are making what most regard as e-waste more valuable, fun projects for the technically inclined such as myself and I really appreciate your work! Thank you again! I was thinking; in the same vein as your other mods, I would love an upgrade kit for the 8,3 to replace the aged USB 2.0 controller with a 3.0 controller and ports from 2012+, assuming a EFI patch/reprogram wouldn't make the port+controller and obviously required and non-existing adapter board swap impossible. Come to think of it, it might not even be possible to attach 3.0 ports to a 2011 board due to the lack of 3.0 landings. Heck, don't even know if the required PCH/CPU lines are connected. Perhaps more interposers can make that work? Just thinking out loud but I think if a kit could be developed to adapt native 3.0 to the 2011 8,3 it would make a really powerful machine when paired with the x-gpu kit, and an ivy bridge cpu swap. It might be more practical to just use the under utilized Expresscard/34 slot to add 3.0ish compatibility, but nobody makes a good card these days from what I've seen. I just love the 8,3, I think it has the best screen and speaker combo of any mac from the "user repairable" era and anything that helps bump it into the future I'm all for! You guys are wizards! Keep blowing our minds!
Such very informational yet easier to understand video about ppbus Any advice to prevent /mantain longer age for those cheap/low life capacitor? thanks for sharing
Replacing the faulty component: 1% of the cost. Rest of the 99% go to: - Years of experience to know what to check - Interpreting what the signals mean - Having the tools to get those relevant signals - Having trained staff and effective processes (e.g. impressive process having another party in QC cross check the work done!) to do the work But then I think most people who would click on this video know the above already :)
Amazing work man. I’ve got MacBook M1 that had some liquid damage around QP700 area after cleaning all works. Today is not booting or charging only 5v. After removing the board I found that PP2V5 Awake NAND area is very hot. This means the board is dead? Thank you again
my laptop dead recently, some great repair guy like him repaired for a minimal price(i don't know how much he is charging) brand service centers sometimes refuse to repair(all laptop brands not only 🍍) these things are so small(not visible to naked eye) microscope and constant video feed is required, surgen level hand movement(precise hand movement) and patience are required(most of the componets are cheap) some are expensive
Can you please tell when these kind of capacitors failure? Are these random, or is there any pattern that you have noticed. May be we all can learn and avoid those kind of actions. Speaking as in owner of M1 mac.
I would 3D print nice enclosure for the Android phone and camera. When working it’s easy to drop the phone and it will probably land on protruding camera damaging it or the USB-C port.
was thinking about replacing my macbook for a new m3 one, but after seeing such capacitor mistakes, I probaly won’t.. any suggestions that wont fail by itself?
Dear iBoff RCC, i really enjoy your informative videos about replacing MacBook’s Nand chips. Which manufacturer does in your opinion produce the most reliable and enduring Nand chips for Apple MacBooks?
We never seen Hynix NANDs die yet, but maybe that's because their occurrence is lesser than Toshiba/Kioxia. But we're not worrying too much since you can replace them
Brilliant videos, wish I could do things like this, it’s opened my eyes to how poor the Mac stuff really is and I’ve been using Mac since 2009, luckily I’ve not come across any problems and my 2014 iMac is still going strong. I was thinking about upgrading to a Mac Studio but I’m worried the same crap from the MacBooks are inside the Mac Studio.
Really great video - thank you, and top humour throughout!. Question, is there starter course that you could recommend for Laptop Mac board repairs? . good luck with the channel
Can i boot into using only the logic board and external display . No battery, keyboard , touchpad, display . Only with the logic board and external display will it turn on ?
Seems like capacitor rot is still a thing after that late 90's early 00's debacle. At that time almost all pc brands used crappy electrolytes witch resulted in a lot of broken pc's but even vcr's stereo equipment an so on.
Instead of shilling you should try the Seek with the macro lens. I have the Compact Pro and with the macro lens it works perfectly. It has higher resolution sensor than the Infiray too. But I get you need money from the affiliate links...
There is no safe voltage when using injection. Because modern elements on board can work from 0.8v up to 20v+. On this video I didn't see that technician tested shortages between other rails and not ground. He just make it burn and shine on IR camera :)
The M1 processor was defective by design with a major security flaw found by MIT. All Mac should have been recalled but good old Tim Crook let people go on buying them because most ppl didn’t know they had the right to sue and file a FTC violation against apple. I suggest you do if you own one.
I do not like were you check board with a battery is connected, I think that first step should be disconnecting the battery and checking the board without it Can you replace the RAM only without the M1 chip ?
ohh my goddd, this is so crazy to see. a small cap can literally turn these laptops into bricks?!!! I guess the way you store these laptops really matters? You can't have them in too cold conditions from what I'm researching on these caps. Any other precautions to be had ??
If the M1 macbook pro I just bought is a no fix I'm going to be very sad Then probavly sell it on ebay But let's keep a positive attitude, your video should be very useful
Why are all the problems related to capacitors and seemingly serving random functions? Do you think this could have something to do with using non-apple/standard chargers/dongles?
They chose to use the Multi-Layer Ceramic Capacitor (MLCC) for the positions that require a little bit high capacitance (like 10uF or more) to stablise the voltage on the high current node. These MLCCs tend to be broken easily by the mechanical issues which can come from many reasons and one of them is the temperature cycling (hot and cold over and over). These MLCCs also don't like the high current area which will decrease its life time drastically. The Electrolytic Capacitor is more suitable and capable of withstand high current nodes but if they chose to use it, the Macbook will not be thin as we see nowaday. It's more like a trade-off between the mechanical design (as thin as possible) and electronics design.
So if customers took these machines to Apple what would the Apple solution be? Replace the capacitors too or replace the entire logic board for far more money ?
I'd buy a new one. New product might last at least 1-2 year I guess. I just bought an used M1Pro for 1 month and It just died out of the blue yesterday. The symptom was the same in the video and It costs me 300$.
I’m watching this while my 6 months M2 MacBook Air died for no reason. Service Center suggested a logic board repair. I’ve no faith that this will even cross 2 years mark.
You're welcome to send it to us, we work on Macbooks all the time :)
maybe go for an m1 macbook air, same performance basically and much better handling heat. been using mine since 2020 and it's still going strong with 91% battery health
@@nintendork07 I already have one for my wife, bought it when it was released. That broke down with a clear warning for battery service in the very first year. Got it fixed. Since then, it's fine so far. Point is, these machines are not very reliable as we think they are.
Do you want to sell it?
@@maybelbdidit have you guys got a Macbook Air M1 A1932 logic board to sell?
my man got sense of humour and great camera skills, the right ingredients to be successful on you tube.
Daughter's 2022 Macbook Pro has the black screen that will not work, works with an external display. It's really dissapointing how bad quality control has become at Apple. What a shame. Despite the computer failing, I really enjoyed your video!
Many thanks for all the FlexBV boardviewer software exposure!
@pldaniels - Do you think 3rd Party Hubs, Chargers might be the culprit/s causing these faults?
@@nilomyki I am finding with modern high density MLCC caps it's just the fact that there's so many of them on these boards and they have sensitivity to physical shock above and beyond their already somewhat-delicate nature due to the very high VuF densities.
@@pldaniels Thanks for the insight. All the best to yourself and family for this New Years.
@paul Best software worth mentioning ;)
@@iBoffRCCcertainly always appreciated. I seem to spend more time alas working on the software that fixing machines :(
$3 Trillion, thats how rich the company is and they can't can get design a motherboard, its a a shame how they are using inferior capacitors and there is not safety for the SOC in case of a short.
Stop buying their products until they improve the quality
Yep this 1 tard stops. Boom they worth $50 bucks. 😂😅@trshcln6937
What if it's cheap USB-C Hubs causing the issue?
@@trshcln6937 And what if it's a user caused fault like from buying cheaply made, non-certified Type-C Hubs, and other similar peripherals?
@@trshcln6937 Consumers are dumb, they only buy the device for a function and never understand it's technical aspects.
Quality video! Sponsorship actually added value here, acting as a character of the show.
As an owner of a dead MacBook 12" I take this kind of videos seriously.
Happy New Year to you all at iBoff RCC and thanks for all that you do for Apple consumers and repairers during the year.
Happy New Year Peter! We hope this year you'll achieve great things with KikiPus ;)
It doesn’t matter if it’s easy repair for you or not, the owner had a broken device and you fixed it.
Not to mention the vast knowlegde needed
Sounds easy when someone with this knowledge show the process in a video
it matters a lot actually
Thank you for making these videos they’re very educational and a great source of inspiration!
why does he talk in such a weird way, is it intentional?
Asian accent@@KimoKimochii
I wished a repair shop like yours existed in my area. I took my MacBook Air to an authorized vendor and he told me that there was liquid damage. He wanted €650 for repair. There was definitely no liquid damage, which I could prove by opening the device myself. I cleaned the logic board with isopropanol and it lived on for 5 years. Sadly, it's dead now.
The PPBUS 12V animation made me laugh so hard. Amazing video!
18:13 omg between you breaking it down and paul Daniel's I'm so happy about this type of documation and expectation
Heat is what makes these ceramic caps internally break and sometimes go open, most times just short. If you remove an already heat-treated ceramic from a donor board by heating it up again and then heating up again when soldering it back to the other board... You can just buy any ceramic capacitor with 10uF and 10+ Volts for that 3V3 power rail. And if the 10uF / 25V are unavailable or too short to fit on the pads, just buy 35V types or even 50V types. No problems there!
Fascinating.
My Macbook M1 had the screen go black after 14 months of light and limited use. 2 months after the warranty ended.
Just one day it wasn't working. Apple store told me to buy another Macbook essentially, since it wasn't worth repairing (vs refurb) and I was out of warranty.
I still have no idea what went wrong with it, so now it is used as a mini desktop for compiling iOS/Mac apps, and nothing else really. I can use an external monitor thankfully also
it's essentially a Mac Mini now.
When you shine a light on the display do you see anything, eg desktop icons or whatever? If yes, perhaps it is just the backlight fuse.
@@mojoblues66 There is a very faint backlight visible , but no icons/text/images.
@@steve_seguin could be the flex cable
@@mojoblues66 Thank you. It could be a FlexGate issue I suppose, yeah, though I don't have the skill to fix it myself.
I'll continue to use it as a mac mini for now, and just continue to curse Apple under my breath for existing.
Well done, u’re amazing. Sadly those expensive macs are all dying from poor components.
IBoff is the best!! 😅 I could watch these all day! always trying to save the datas unless they are gone! Then you lost all your datas! Dead short to ground sleuthed with inifiray’s camera was awesome!
You really deserve to have way more subscribers! What an excellent video!
he already has enough
@@Warp2090 I mean he's definitiely got more subs than most channels, but he absolutely deserves more for the kind of stuff that he uploads!
True@@AlexElectronics
Subscribed 😊
7:43 look at that great Keyboard imprint on the screen, that is an actual scuff imprint. Which Apple still haven't addressed on their newer MacBook's. You cannot remove that scuff. The only way is to get a screen protector.
@iBoff RCC Hey there, thanks for all of you, and your team's hard work saving, and developing kits for these machines! I recently bought an x-gpu project+nevbolt for my 2011 MBP 17' A1297 8,3. Your work with NVMe adapter kits and repair work are making what most regard as e-waste more valuable, fun projects for the technically inclined such as myself and I really appreciate your work! Thank you again! I was thinking; in the same vein as your other mods, I would love an upgrade kit for the 8,3 to replace the aged USB 2.0 controller with a 3.0 controller and ports from 2012+, assuming a EFI patch/reprogram wouldn't make the port+controller and obviously required and non-existing adapter board swap impossible. Come to think of it, it might not even be possible to attach 3.0 ports to a 2011 board due to the lack of 3.0 landings. Heck, don't even know if the required PCH/CPU lines are connected. Perhaps more interposers can make that work? Just thinking out loud but I think if a kit could be developed to adapt native 3.0 to the 2011 8,3 it would make a really powerful machine when paired with the x-gpu kit, and an ivy bridge cpu swap. It might be more practical to just use the under utilized Expresscard/34 slot to add 3.0ish compatibility, but nobody makes a good card these days from what I've seen. I just love the 8,3, I think it has the best screen and speaker combo of any mac from the "user repairable" era and anything that helps bump it into the future I'm all for!
You guys are wizards! Keep blowing our minds!
Such very informational yet easier to understand video about ppbus
Any advice to prevent /mantain longer age for those cheap/low life capacitor?
thanks for sharing
Wow never knew these M series Macs would give trouble
They are really fragile really!
Thank you for these great videos. It was really cool how you explained the 6th case in a humorous manner I loved that part 😂
You should be able to press the button on the side of your usbC meter to swap the display rotation.
I don’t have a Mac but I like how these laptops gets repaired. Great and educational content
Excellent video. Enjoy that you made it entertaining, electronics repair can be boring sometimes, but not here.
Replacing the faulty component: 1% of the cost.
Rest of the 99% go to:
- Years of experience to know what to check
- Interpreting what the signals mean
- Having the tools to get those relevant signals
- Having trained staff and effective processes (e.g. impressive process having another party in QC cross check the work done!) to do the work
But then I think most people who would click on this video know the above already :)
Great video! Hope to learn more about microelectronic repairs or MacBooks when I watch more!
I'm glad you guyz figured out a way to fix these MBPs
Very informative and insightful. More importantly, very entertaining too! 👏
Amazing work man.
I’ve got MacBook M1 that had some liquid damage around QP700 area after cleaning all works.
Today is not booting or charging only 5v.
After removing the board I found that PP2V5 Awake NAND area is very hot.
This means the board is dead?
Thank you again
as usual, a very high quality video. thank you and keep going
So essentially, Apple charges more than ever for its laptops while at the same time cheaping out on board-level components, especially capacitors.
devil corporation
That’s their modus operandi
Peoples get lied with Branding
man, this was entertaining. your voice is fun. great video
Do you guys offer repair services?
Impressive work. Where is your shop located?
my laptop dead recently,
some great repair guy like him repaired for a minimal price(i don't know how much he is charging)
brand service centers sometimes refuse to repair(all laptop brands not only 🍍)
these things are so small(not visible to naked eye) microscope and constant video feed is required,
surgen level hand movement(precise hand movement) and patience are required(most of the componets are cheap) some are expensive
Can you please tell when these kind of capacitors failure?
Are these random, or is there any pattern that you have noticed.
May be we all can learn and avoid those kind of actions.
Speaking as in owner of M1 mac.
The raging ppbus killing frenzy. Lol
Man I learned so much !! Thank you for the entire repair videos !!!
I would 3D print nice enclosure for the Android phone and camera. When working it’s easy to drop the phone and it will probably land on protruding camera damaging it or the USB-C port.
was thinking about replacing my macbook for a new m3 one, but after seeing such capacitor mistakes, I probaly won’t.. any suggestions that wont fail by itself?
Awesome video 🎉, good job
Dear iBoff RCC,
i really enjoy your informative videos about replacing MacBook’s Nand chips. Which manufacturer does in your opinion produce the most reliable and enduring Nand chips for Apple MacBooks?
We never seen Hynix NANDs die yet, but maybe that's because their occurrence is lesser than Toshiba/Kioxia. But we're not worrying too much since you can replace them
Brilliant videos, wish I could do things like this, it’s opened my eyes to how poor the Mac stuff really is and I’ve been using Mac since 2009, luckily I’ve not come across any problems and my 2014 iMac is still going strong. I was thinking about upgrading to a Mac Studio but I’m worried the same crap from the MacBooks are inside the Mac Studio.
Really great video - thank you, and top humour throughout!. Question, is there starter course that you could recommend for Laptop Mac board repairs? . good luck with the channel
Could you link a qc checklist please looks great :)
Can i boot into using only the logic board and external display . No battery, keyboard , touchpad, display . Only with the logic board and external display will it turn on ?
I love mac os, because of logic pro, but these failures make me rethink hackintoshing.
Terbaik lah Bro Ahmad dan Team iBoff!!!
Terima kasih tuan Firdaus
Warranty 1 years.
Fails at 1.5 years.
Watching this on my Macbook Pro 2015 15" and will keep it alive for as long as possible. Apple's future in this product segment looks terrible.
amazing video and repairs....i bought the same p2 pro camera on black friday...
I like your video, very straightforward and easy to follow! Thanks for the tips. Subscribed!
Which m1 model do you think will last the longest
Seems like capacitor rot is still a thing after that late 90's early 00's debacle. At that time almost all pc brands used crappy electrolytes witch resulted in a lot of broken pc's but even vcr's stereo equipment an so on.
Thanks so much for this content. The videos are straight-forward and very educational. Keep up!
Instead of shilling you should try the Seek with the macro lens. I have the Compact Pro and with the macro lens it works perfectly. It has higher resolution sensor than the Infiray too. But I get you need money from the affiliate links...
Which software you are using for QC test on tablet?
I just have a M1 Macbook Mini. It wont turn on. I trow it out, all the data in backuped.
Basic question, isn't 3.3V injection to high ? Isn't the safe limit usually 1 to 1.2V ?
There is no safe voltage when using injection. Because modern elements on board can work from 0.8v up to 20v+. On this video I didn't see that technician tested shortages between other rails and not ground. He just make it burn and shine on IR camera :)
The M1 processor was defective by design with a major security flaw found by MIT. All Mac should have been recalled but good old Tim Crook let people go on buying them because most ppl didn’t know they had the right to sue and file a FTC violation against apple. I suggest you do if you own one.
capacitor,capacity, short circuit its crazy life buddy from macbook
I do not like were you check board with a battery is connected, I think that first step should be disconnecting the battery and checking the board without it
Can you replace the RAM only without the M1 chip ?
ohh my goddd, this is so crazy to see. a small cap can literally turn these laptops into bricks?!!! I guess the way you store these laptops really matters? You can't have them in too cold conditions from what I'm researching on these caps. Any other precautions to be had ??
Awesome job
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Can RAM be changed and repaired if it's faulty or does the entire logic board need a replacement?
trying to keep a stedy hand is so hard ive done this many times if i fell i cant stay still i will not work on it
How to prevent the capacitor from getting crack ?
the logic board on my m1 mac mini just broke and the cost is more than the machine itself - these machines are really disposable
Proud of my Malaysian brother
Terima kasih tuan
I just bought a used M1 macbook pro and I was just wondering: is that a way to avoid shorts in it?
I do love my P2 Pro thermal camera.
Legendary video as always. Thank you for sharing.
Disappointing to hear most were a manufacturer defect guess I'll keep the Apple Care for my M1.
ARE YOU REALLY GOOD
At REPAIRING THESE APPLE NOTEBOOKS YOUR VERY GOOD AT FINDING JUST SHORTING CAPS WEIRD FAULTS 😊😊😊
OMG, u r in Malaysia? I guess when I am there I can try for request an upgrade for my Mac!
Very cool videos guys, thanks a lot !!!
How much will cost a repair like this one?
why does Apple produce such low quality boards?
Thanks a lot, very educating and neat! Thanks!
Any idea why those caps are failing? Bad luck?
Best repair vids i've seen.
Logic board. I had the 15” MacBook Pro 2007 and only lasted 5.5 years. Guess what die of? Thankfully I bought it open box but it wasn’t cheap!!
@iBoff RCC - Can these faults be caused by 3rd Party Hubs, Chargers, Etc?
You guys are legends!
Really great video, thank you!
Hi, what's the software you used to find the components on the PCBs?
I bought a m2 air and I am now worried about a tiny ceramic cap blowing up and killing my hopes and dreams next year
No it’s not easy you got to know what your doing plus the tools and parts
If the M1 macbook pro I just bought is a no fix I'm going to be very sad
Then probavly sell it on ebay
But let's keep a positive attitude, your video should be very useful
Why are all the problems related to capacitors and seemingly serving random functions?
Do you think this could have something to do with using non-apple/standard chargers/dongles?
Bad capacitors have a long history and they frequently occur in batches.
They chose to use the Multi-Layer Ceramic Capacitor (MLCC) for the positions that require a little bit high capacitance (like 10uF or more) to stablise the voltage on the high current node.
These MLCCs tend to be broken easily by the mechanical issues which can come from many reasons and one of them is the temperature cycling (hot and cold over and over).
These MLCCs also don't like the high current area which will decrease its life time drastically.
The Electrolytic Capacitor is more suitable and capable of withstand high current nodes but if they chose to use it, the Macbook will not be thin as we see nowaday.
It's more like a trade-off between the mechanical design (as thin as possible) and electronics design.
So if customers took these machines to Apple what would the Apple solution be? Replace the capacitors too or replace the entire logic board for far more money ?
I'm not sure but most of companies just scrap it you get new one,
Whole motherboard replacement. They probably will try to also convince you that the display also needs to be replaced
Good old times when Apple computers had good quality parts.
The summary does not mention the need of replacing the PMU chip, only bad-caps and no-fix.
my macbook pro mid 2012 keyboard backlight stoped working any fix for that?
iBoff RCC - 15:28 Were you using a Macro Lens with the Seek Compact Pro?
He was not so he could shill the infiray.
So is it safe to buy an used MBP M1 Pro or should I buy a new one?
I'd buy a new one. New product might last at least 1-2 year I guess. I just bought an used M1Pro for 1 month and It just died out of the blue yesterday.
The symptom was the same in the video and It costs me 300$.
Great work!
Can you please recommend me a new MacBook pro laptop
With least problems?
Your videos are always awesome