Ex-TODAY Staffer: Consensual Relationship With Matt Lauer Was ‘Abuse Of Power’ | Megyn Kelly TODAY
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- On Megyn Kelly TODAY, former TODAY production assistant Addie Zinone describes media outlets pressing her for details of the brief sexual relationship she says she had with former TODAY anchor Matt Lauer 17 years ago, as well as criticism and shaming she has faced for coming forward now. “I’m coming forward and saying yes, this was consensual; this was an abuse of power,” she tells Kelly.
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Ex-TODAY Staffer: Consensual Relationship With Matt Lauer Was ‘Abuse Of Power’ | Megyn Kelly TODAY
I think I understand. It was a professional workplace. He was much older. She was young and inspired. It was an abuse of power...there was an inappropriate power dynamic with Matt being the power source. That's not just two adults doing their own thing, that's something different. She's actually illuminating something more complex, which is also more pervasive. That's what's not being received here. She actually repeatedly says she's not a victim. But in the comments, she is lambasted while everyone just looks at Matt's involvement as being an adulterous man.
All who criticize her have no idea what they would do in the same situation. It is obvious the impact it has had on her life, especially enlisting for 2 tours of duty in Iraq. Addie is a very intelligent and brave woman and I wish nothing but the best for her and her family.
Amen
Yea such an impact that she went back and stayed with him😂girl please she’s clearly lying
Unfortunately, this interview does not give Addie's story justice. She's trying to validate the accusers' stories by sharing a different side of Matt Lauer that most people didn't know. You'd really have to read the piece in Variety to fully understand the scope and impact of the power dynamic that she is trying to bring to light. When I first began reading her story, I wasn't sympathetic either since it was consensual and he was married. However, after reading the entire Variety article, I do see the power dynamics at play. She's not trying to be a victim. Matt was so beloved by viewers and his accusers are anonymous, so she is coming forward to show that there were enough similarities in the other accounts that she knew that they were telling the truth, because of the same pattern of behavior. However, in her case she erroneously gave in to his advances while his accusers didn't. So she just wants people to know that he is capable of the behavior that his accusers are accusing him of.
PolyphonyTiffany well said tiffany
Katie B Erm, no, not well said Tiffany. Addie Zinone happily had an affair with a married man, and thought nothing of it, until 17 years later when she felt the urge to jump on the MeToo -witch hunt- bandwagon and blame him entirely for the whole sordid affair.
MeToo has undoubtedly done some good, but unfortunately there are also countless cases like this where the female, who by her own admission was *consenting* and just as much to blame, accusing and vilifying a man in order to look superior, absolve herself of blame or just to experience her 15 minutes whilst playing the victim. It makes the women involved look extremely petty and makes a mockery of genuine sexual assault cases.
Exactly, Tiffany. She stated that and Megyn did also. Several times. Lauer is a sleaze bag with a long list of victims. No matter how you look at it he is a narcissist who misused his powerful position to achieve his own sexual needs. The very fact that Addie was warned about being hit by a bus proves that she is still a victim! What kind of butt hurt people are you sticking up for womanizing dcks like M Lauer!
@@ccho907 she helped herself out of a 17 year mental guilt. She was not a snitch, she knew how others would struggle to be believed. This was her way of finally dealing with it & foreclosure. She articulated herself very well.
You really think Matt used is position to force her into a relationship with him? 😂girl bye he never threatened her job or made her uncomfortable to where she felt in danger
Thank you for your service Addie!!! May God bless you and your family.
Her testimony will Help more Recent Victims!!! Abuse of Power!!!!
what it is called is adultery-always was, always will be
Why? What is the relevance? It was consensual. Megyn Kelly is desperate.Please cancel this show.
Why is the narrative must continue... They want to strip men of identity and flip gender roles completely. This is a big step. They want to flip the power dynamic by any means necessary.
Latara Evans 😂😂😂
Done.
I'm glad you are coming forward because these situations happen to women in the workplace all the time and knowing how to handle yourself in these situations is very important. You try to do it gracefully, but that is not always possible and you don't know what the repercussions can be. You are a human being and people make mistakes but you can also be in a vulnerable position because of how you handle things.
She chose to have a affair with a married man. Is she victim? I don't get this. Their telling us all man who have consensual relationship with a woman in work place can be accused of sexual harassment. God help us all.
How does her having a private, consensual relationship with a married man make her a victim?
Thank you!!
Chris Turton good question! As the Holy Bible says already looking at another man’s wife or another wife’s husband is a sin. USA and UOA of Albert Ellis is the way to go! The real hypocrites are the ones, who say they aren’t. Like Jane Fonda said: everybody owns his body!
Chris Turton exactly!!
I wished they would've talked more about the power-dynamic... I really believe her, but it's hard to understand, if there are no specific anecdotes or something to imagine this story.
People today have no morals at all and may as well be an animal. An animal has more discretion and self respect than most humans. There is no self respect at all and this woman should be ashamed of herself to expose herself over the air waves. Lauer is like a dog on two legs and the best is not to have anything to do with him. I feel sorry for his wife and kids. The children pay the price of the parents. This woman was 24 and should have known better about what goes on today. This isn't the 1800s or early 1900s she knew the score. This woman is doing this for fame and money.
She just upset, she didn't get anything out of the relationship except branded as a homewrecker. He didn't leave his wife for her and he didn't help her professionally either. She should have kept her mouth shut and moving forward keep her legs close. Try to climb the professional ladder with sweat n tears rather then sleeping her way to the top
If they both knew she was leaving the show, how was this an abuse of power? Also, back in 2000 Matt may not have been the same person who later went on to actually abuse some women. She is not a victim and neither was she abused, so they don't need to hear from her as much as the women who were the real victims. And those women should tell their stories, which I think they have, and he's been fired. And they can remain anonymous if they so choose. Really all she has done here is gain publicity, because everything else has already been said.
It seems like every single blaming and shaming comment here ignores the power dynamic of a young aspirant facing a predatory TV star boss. Working in television and media isn't like working at Wal-mart. Sorry folks...
Chris, she never said she was a "victim", she said it was "consensual".
This is what a huge problem with our society is...you cannot just take back consent.
Women-hating men like Lauer, Weinstein, O'Reilly, and many others abuse consent with manipulation -- there is no consent in a power-imbalanced situation. CHECK THE LAW.
What is her point? She chose to slept with him.
Yes. How is she his victim? She agreed to sleep with him. So what if it was Matt Lauer. She could have still said no.
I respect how difficult this must before u! I can see what a honest outstanding person u r!Many women say rude, mean things because they like to pick on other women, because r their own insecurities! Many women r ashamed of encounters they wish they never had, just it wasn't made public.
How is it an abuse if power if she chose to have an affair with him? I just don't get it. Is she implying that it wasn't really consensual, that she was afraid to say no?
A rhetorical question. How amusing. If you really wanted to know you'd investigate for the answer and find it.
Stephanie Jade right. Because I know her personally and can read minds 🙄 otherwise, it's all conjecture.
It's all in the interview. You obviously are asking for reaction and not because you are really interested in the answer to your own question.
Stephanie Jade I wasn't looking for any response really. It was a "musing" of mine.
I will never understand a anyone that chooses to enter into that kind of relationship and then lays the lion share of the blame on the person they did it with. It was her choice. If he had come out and said do it or you're fired, well that's criminal isn't it? But, she had an affair with a married coworker. Was he gross? Definitely. Should she have said no???
Her case is just another, different, kind of situation we have to navigate as the metoo movement is worked through, simply because they worked together and he was the "star" of the today show.
It's much more complicated than two consenting adults going into a relationship. He was not her boyfriend. He was also 42+ and nearly 20yrs her senior!. She was only 24 (the human brain does not complete development until 25: she was biologically not an adult).
The power imbalance DID have a psychological affect on her -- this is what too many people misunderstand or do not acknowledge, so they'd rather use armchair psychology, which doesn't work because it so far from the truth of what was actually going on, and they do more damage to society. It's like a witch-hunt and it's really ignorant and can be cruel.
Like I said, your question is rhetorical -- for effect, not seeking real answers. You've already made up your mind, and that doesn't help anyone. And that is the problem that adds to the one already existing (her story). When you say, "I will never understand..." that's very telling. And, you go on, "...anyone that [who] chooses to enter into that kind of 'relationship' and then lays the lion share of the blame on the person they did it with." She's taking her share of the blame, and she says it over-and-over.
Also, what amazes me is that you say you are not looking for a response, yet post a public comment for millions of people to see. How is that logical? Perhaps if I agreed with you and didn't challenge your assumptions you'd be happier in your complacency.
Of course I don't know you, you're probably a decent person. But, please, think deeper about things if you really want to get answers for your questions -- you're obviously perplexed, why not dig deeper? Certainly there have been times in your life you did things you wondered why you did them. Only in this woman's case, the lure/manipulation was much more deviant. I feel compassion for her.
So proud of you Addie!
She was a young opportunistic and care little for his wife. No lady most women would not do this.
a joke... whats the point here.....she had an affair with guy.....gladly
michael hammad Very true . You decided to go in knowing he was married. You are PATHETIC! I guess any fame is fame, lot at William Houng!
this is insulting to the intelligence of women
In the comments I see women most ardently attack a women who has been exploited by a powerful man. The lack of compassion & aggressive shaming is abusive. Young women are very often targeted by such men FOR A REASON: their inexperience makes them more vulnerable & easier to manipulate. Sexual abusers have patterns & they choose their targets carefully because they know, as she knows, the victim will be blamed & harassed--as we see right here. And every single attack emboldens sexual predators.
Jesus take the wheel this victim crying has taken my last nerve!
Kimberly H hahaha !!
Well I guess you've not been the target of uncomfortable, disgusting advances by powerful men at your workplaces. Good for you! Might be different for your sister, mother, aunt, cousin, daughter. You can't win because these men have all the cards - refuse their advances and risk your career might die down before it started (if it happened to oscar winner Mira Sorvino, what do you think will happen to a small PA?!). Give in - live with the shame all your life. The only thing that could stop it is powerful men stopping to claim sexual favours from people working for them. The law hasn't done much - quid pro quo sexual harassment has been illegal for 30 years. No one cared, apparently. So there needs to be public shame. If it goes onto your nerves - you're either not capable of empathy or ignorant. The latter can be helped by education. Maybe your future daughter will start in a better workplace. Will that be with your support?
exactly what a stupid story
Andrea Poirier has polpplo
As a woman it's amazing and embarrassing to hear the many excuses woman will make for their bad and indecent behavior. Two woman sitting around discussing how men are bad. How it needs to be said and talked about...she was young and low on the totem pole, didn't know how to say No. Really? Woman will never ever be taken seriously because of their CONSTANT excuses for their bad behavior! Embarrassing!
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Sounds like a whole lot of excuses you're giving as well. The insults also show your intelligence. No where in my writing did I say I'm without sin nor did I say I'd never been a victim. I just see excuses and lies made constantly by woman and in order to heal or be taken seriously you need to own up, stop with the excuses and lies. Just a bit of advice for the next time you want to comment..... gather your thoughts, don't call names and don't write something you know nothing about. You don't know me, you don't know my life. Your rambling nonsense and name calling doesn't help the awareness you are desparetly trying to bring to this excuse filled youtube video.
Thank you, it's nice to hear a female saying this.
Let be clear, an affair with 2 consenting adults is not assault. Your not putting a face to victims, your insulting them.
lisa Holt she never claimed that. 🤦🏻♀️
Any extramarital relationship will change you entirely during and after
Same can be said about lifting weights.
I don't understand? There is nothing wrong here. She said it was consensual.
exactly! Lol. I think she is just looking for attention. Her 15 minutes of fame so to speak.
Women have been drawn to me in positions of power since the beginning of time. So she is a victim because she had a consensual relationship with a guy who was in a position of power is now looking for sympathy. I'll save my sympathy for real victims.
This interview is a joke
My opinion is that if you sit down and talk to your mother's, aunt's, grandmother's you would start to understand how many years females have been put into situations that their counter parts are not. Example women had to wear dresses, makeup, if they could not afford a new pair of Hosiery for their legs they had to draw a line up the back of their legs to look like they had some on. It is a fact for many years women have been put into positions where they will loose if not in agreement with their male peers.. It still goes on today.. She never called herself a victim, nor says what she done was right. She carries blame. She just wanted to put a face to the picture that was going around. I am proud of her for taking her own blame in this story. That takes strength that most of humans do not have...
The one thing that i like about Robyn Crawford(Whitney Houston's best friend) is that she has NEVER said a thing about Whitney or about their relationship.
I believe what she says.. at age 24 you're considered an adult but you're still figuring out who you are and not everybody at that age is totally confident with standing up for themselves.. she's owning her part in this but I know she was intimidated and got in over her head before she realized what was really happening. Being 24 back then versus being 24 today is different. I think women today may be a little stronger and know what avenues they can take for support..
U kept it hush hush for 17 years. What’s the point in bringing it up now. Really
Janet Moore she wants money.
That what I'm thinking she wanting something out of it.
Did you listen to the interview?
You’re dim.
What is she crying about? She made the choice to sleep with a married man, how does that make her a victim?
YOUNG WOMEN ALSO ENTICE MEN IN POWER FOR WHATEVER REASON, MEN ALSO ARE HUMAN
She did not initiate this affair.
This is BS she consented after the lunch she she should not have agreed to go to his dressing room. She was leaving how is that an abuse of power. Sorry not buying this. She has an angle what it is? not clear. Is not the same. What does consent mean? Consent means you said yes. More than once and kept on touch with him.
Anita Stahl When you find the angle, let us know!
Jackie S. I said I didn't know her angle, but agreeing to have a relationship is not abuse of power she continued her relationship even after she left the show and he was no longer her boss.
Nothing "happened to you".
EARTH ANGEL😇 THIS isn’t exactly the correct saying, but I think you’ll get the point ; LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN STEP FORWARD AND CAST THE FIRST STONE. NOONE STEPPED FORWARD.🤔
So you knew there would be backlash by coming forward but you were confused with Matt Lauers intentions?While he's a POS, you my dear, give women a bad name. My support goes to the real #metoo women.
Consentual but maybe she felt if she didn't continue sleeping with him her job and career would be lost. Sooo, knowing Matt Lauer's mode of operandum, I believe consent in this case was abuse of power.
She's no víctim.
She was a victim. She knew that he could make one phone call and end her career before it even started. He knew that too. His behavior (to her, Meredith Viera and others he abused there) was repulsive.
Abuse of power - that’s what she is talking about. Matt was a man with a lot of power and he used his position and power to manipulate and seduce women. While what he did with this woman may not be illegal it certainly is morally and ethically wrong.
And women scream about being equal to men. She can’t even say no to a sexual advance. Weak. She wanted to climb the ladder and she spread her legs, willingly, to do so. Her not being able to say no does not constitute sexual abuse on Matt’s part. Sorry.
Kathy Hager where did she even explain the abuse of power here
Nicholas- my take is from several sources of her story. Megyn did terrible job of interviewing her and understanding why this woman is speaking- in my opinion.
Kathy Hager let's not forget women flirt wit men in power as well
Abuse of power? No way. This was consensual as she herself admitted. If she had been threatened that there would be consequences if she refused his advances, THEN she could say it was abuse of power...she is just making excuses for something she did which she regrets because she knows it was wrong for her to engage in this way with a married man.
Rita Dominguez What do you think would have happened if she said "No" ?
THIS IS GREAT THAN YOU PEOPLE DONT UNDERSTAND HOW IMBALANCE OF POWER AND THREAD OF YOUR POSITION BY A SUPERIOR IN THE WORK PACE MESSES WITH YOUR HEAD AND IS AN EXPLOITATION AND GAS LIGHTNING EFFECT ON THE TARGETS.. THX AGAIN FOR SHINING A LIGHT ON THIS..
People in relationships and married women can be abused. When it is forced that is abuse. She was very young when she was with Lauer. Some people do not want to lose their job and not get other jobs because of saying no. Then she heard about others whom he controlled. Anyway--they went to her home now and put her name out there. She had started a new life with her husband and children. Lauer kept working and the women could not.
Two things I think a lot of commenters are overlooking is that 1. This woman is not necessarily calling herself a victim. She has never claimed that this was anything other than consensual. She is trying to shine a light on behaviors that constitute sexual harassment by someone in the work place who has more power over you. These behaviors, like making comments about how a woman is dressed at work and sexualizing coworkers are often not consensual. I’m sure there are many other women out there that he said the same things to that were uncomfortable by his behaviors, especially when it’s their boss. She’s pointing out a pattern. And 2. This woman did two tours of duty in our army in Iraq, and I applaud and thank her for her service to our country.
A woman at work touched me 17 years ago it was consenual I let her and now after 17 years I feel VIOLATED....What should I do.
GTFOH!
Because I am a survivor of #MeToo...i never want to judge another woman's experience. But how was she taken advantage of? Seriously, what am I missing? No disrespect, I don't get it. Peace friend❤
He was in a position of authority and she wasn't. He could easily (if he was vindictive) have called the place she was going to work and told them that she wasn't good at her job.
Consensual
She should be ashamed!!! Too many women try to monetise their 'cookie' and then claim abuse of power when it doesn't work out as hoped/expected.
Loraine Guevara exactly. It didn't end the way she had hoped and now she's snitching him out on national tv over a consensual but embarrassing relationship smh
What is her actual CLAIM?
No $$$ on the nightstand
@@goldeggs2203 She could have a claim of abuse of power. He should have to pay for her therapy bills.
She was easy .
Wow, so many people are clueless on here (comments). They don’t get it. But I’m time they will. Some people are slow to catch on. First problem: black and white thinking. Anyway, this woman is BRAVE, I know exactly how she feels. She’s making me want to tell my story about someone not famous, but well known in the art community in Los Angeles.
Too bad so sad?!!! You willingly had an affair!! You have to pay for your actions just like Lauer is now.
The accuser says her friends didn't say anything, I bet they did.
She is getting her name out there now!
Talk about abuse of power, the people in the back have to sit there and listen to that.
ALL SHE HAD TO DO IS SAY NO THANK YOU, YOU ARE A MARRIED MAN. I AM SO SICK OF WOMEN LIKE THIS MAKING IT HARD FOR WOMEN WHO DO SAY GET LOST BUSTER.
She was young impressionable and that’s what position of power is all about.
So Matt Lauer lost his career over this??? Ironic that Megyn Kelly got released from her talk show less than a year after this due to the _PC extremism_ movement
who wouldn’t want fame or attention
Actually, many. But, it says a lot about you doesn't it?
This is nuts..
Flattering message.
Open sexually fueled message.
Inappropriate lunch.
Meeting in DRESSING ROOM!
continued sexual relationship.
Now victim???? Nope!
She is a victim of something. Any normal well adjusted 24 year old woman in a normal society would have go to his office the very second she got that inapropiate message and he would be in trouble.
Lazy journalism.. No critical questions for a woman who was an 24 year old adult at the time who had a consensual relationship for a month.. He was a cheater, nothing more.. And she is a professional victim
She did NOT age well. SMDH. She was stunning.
They had affair, both were adults. She chose to sleep with another woman husband. She didn't stop think about his wife and if there was any children at the time. She is wanting something out of this!
rakesfunnyfarm he didn't stop to think about his wife and children either.
She knew from the start it was wrong. Why have affair if your leaving town??
She wanted professional advice from a seasoned reporter. She was willing to sleep with him to get it. She was using Matt to advance her career and Matt used her because he wanted to bang a hot blonde. They used each other. There was no imbalance of power in their relationship.
At the least, he should pay all of her bills for therapy.
Rest assured ... Nothing will ever happen again along these lines !!
I didn’t understand the point of this interview at all. She was not abuse at all, she isn’t a victim of ANYTHING. Yes he was obviously wrong for flirting with her when he’s married and for asking her to meet at places, but so was she for going along with it. Like your not 18 an under, you were 24 years old, if you had an affair with a married man why are you coming forward with this now ? They’re both wrong period, we all make mistakes but girl what are you doing then trying to act like a victim ?
I think the issue is that he was her boss.
The issue is predatory behaviour has been normalized and young girls are groomed all their lives to view it as flattery.
She has obviously hit the wall since then
Why would she tell this now
Yeah, Im confused on how this was a problem for her. Especially after 17 years. She had a consensual affair with a colleague, unapologetically I might add. She was NO victim, she was a participant, period! Good job on watering down a scandal and being a disgrace to the real victims of abuse!
Jon Coleman well said!!
Jon Coleman lllQ
Jon Coleman she got a broken heart and wants revenge
A participant with an ego problem
except he wasn't a colleague, but in charge. And that makes it illegal, like it or not (under sexual harassment laws and for sure internal directives of that media company).
It’s called he’s in a position of power. That’s what this is all about. Wtf people think. Use ur fing brains. Instead of putting her down see her situation. If she would have said something that’d been the end of her career.
I really commend this woman for coming out and admitting her faults and taking her experience and showing it to the world of what is truly wrong in the workplace. She in no way is excusing herself. It takes a lot to say I screwed up but I want other women to learn from my mistakes. Powerful men take advantage. She's not the only victim and Matt Lauer has a problem.
Not a victim
They broke lots of HR rules but they're both adults and she was leaving. It's not like it was her first day. I'm confused. Though I do support women's rights in a workplace.
Consensual relationship = victim.
Megyn is smoking...
Sexual harrassment aside. Women who knowingly lie on their backs to get ahead in their careers now call it something that it was not... time is up for them too.
Girl you slept with a married man and now try to cover it up. Stop crying...
No body go to war without a weapon otherwise you be foolish.
If Matt had been the Custodian this video would have never been filmed.
Harassment is being pursued after you refuse to having an affair!
Not to defend him, but this is a different situation from "Me too". She consented and kept going back.
She was very "YOUNG", she was 24, she was an adult. Her brain has already been developed and understands what is abuse and what is consentual! THIS IS RIDICOULUS~~~
Wonder how many times she considered his wife and kids in that month she was trying to 'advance her career '?
It's like licking that lollipop til ya get to the center, how many times did she assume she'll get to the top by laying up with him & I don't mean on top of him?
Sad... ugh
hmm, #1 she knew he was married... No Morales... she was over 21.... she had woo woo w/ a strange dude in a bathroom.. lolol Matt Lauer's wife cant blame him for spending $$ on his weirdness lol
A woman scorned
At this point they don’t care who come forward just a ratings game
His wife is coming forward next.... 30 year marriage.... felt victimized the entire time.... couldn't get a divorce because "it was Matt Lauer" lmao
She had an affair with a married man in a workplace. In any other workplace it is called gossip or baby momma drama.
In this particular environment, it was and is called abuse of power.
@@jennybrandt5188 you want to victimize her for her choices which does an extreme disservice to all women. she could have just ignored the messages if she didn't want to entertain that situation.
@@tjmichael8773 I am saying that as a powerful authority figure and a married man, Matt Lauer had a responsibility not to hit on women in the workplace. He was much older. She was starting a new job and she didn't know if he would be vindictive if she refused his advances. One word from him even in a new town and new job could ruin her career. The relationship was not on a level playing field so I do believe he should at least pay for her therapy bills. He messed up her life and he messed up other young women's lives. To put it simply, it was an abuse of power. Also, did you see the tapes where he was talking to Meredith Viera in that creepy voice? He is a predator.
This woman 24 years old at the time trying to get the attention of a powerful man who was married? HE WAS MARRIED LEAVE HIM ALONE! ADVICE IN A DRESSING ROOM ON REPORTING? Seriously! He didn't fall in love or see her as the SPECIAL ONE which is what she wanted. This was a mutual friendly affair with no attachment. She was leaving to work as a reporter and wanted him to be aware. It was SHE who asked for advice. Her shakes and excitement from their lunch encounter was an obvious sexual attraction that was brought back to his dressing room. It was repeated for several months? Matt wasn't going to leave his wife because of his affair with her? Come on! This woman should be ashamed of herself! 24 YEARS OLD? IS NO CHILD BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF! SHE WENT AFTER A MARRIED MAN. Shame!
Low on the totem pole is an incorrect and inaccurate expression. The men who were low on the totem pole were actually the ones with the most experience.
Give me a break, no is an option! That's HILARIOUS!
Meghan obviously doesn't understand human psychology and ought to stay out of giving advice as if she is some kind of expert.
Great lady! She got her 15minutes of fame, or infamy as a woman who slept with a married man. SMH
It was consensual. Just say NO next time.
I just watch this I’m sorry lady you had a consensual relationship with a married man you are disgusting.
Everyone was and is stupid at 24. Well? except me.