Ex-TODAY Staffer Recounts Sexual Relationship With Matt Lauer When She Was 24 | Megyn Kelly TODAY
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2017
- On Megyn Kelly TODAY, Megyn is joined by Addie Zinone, who recounts a brief sexual relationship she had with former TODAY anchor Matt Lauer 17 years ago when she was a 24-year-old production assistant for the show. While acknowledging that the relationship was consensual and that she has “a lot of shame attached to what I did,” she also describes the “power imbalance” that colored it.
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Ex-TODAY Staffer Recounts Sexual Relationship With Matt Lauer When She Was 24 | Megyn Kelly TODAY
Just because you later regret sleeping with someone, doesn't make you a victim.
Facts!!
Exactly, this is getting out of control💯
Polarbear 123 right
Polarbear 123 - OMG
She's in it for the💵💸💵💸💵
These were two consenting adults having an ongoing mutual sexual relationship and she’s sitting here acting like she was a groomed and molested child. Crazy.
And the host of the show is passing her off as such.
Danielle Liechty - 24 years old...not really a grown mind... research it
Danielle Liechty Agreed 2000%
Exactly. It was an affair, plain and simple.
And what’s REALLY sad about “stories” like this is that they take away from the seriousness of the women (and some men) that were actually harassed and assaulted and coerced.
It’s really a sad situation smh 🤦♂️
This woman is not a REAL victim.
When a woman has a consensual relationship and needs to exonerate herself from being complicit they turn the narrative into being victimized by a predator. She steals from true victims of abuse
Dizzamn ! real talk M E. I don't see what he did wrong. Seems like she was open to his advances. Only person that was wronged (possibly) was his wife .
"So hard to talk about" huh? but you told the world.
They tend to amplify their level of naveity "during their 20s"
People seem to forget it takes 2 to tango
what is going on on these comments??? OMG! this woman has said several times that she was never forced to anything, she was young and naive, and still, she says she is no victim and she does takes full responsibility of her actions!! my question is; what is wrong with you people??? what is it? is this woman the only one in the world who has committed a terrible mistake???
There is no age limit 👆 that women can take full accountability for their actions. Their like kids that never grow up
This makes me sick to my stomach that real victims would hear this woman trying to dovetail her affair with the conversation of workplace abuse and say she was injured. Horrible.
Work place abuse? She agreed to it.
The greater topic of discussion is that sexual abuse is centred around someone of power that exploits their own position to abuse others of lower stature. Sure this woman knew the opportunities that would arise if she went along with the affair, but regardless of her intentions Matt Lauer would still be using this tactic on other women or abuse them in other ways in the workplace. This story highlights the many facets of a perpetrator's mind and less so of the women involved.
She wants attention and money. How disgusting these women are.
@@itsrobo13 If it worked once it might work again
*THIS is FULLY her FAULT 🤦🏼♂️! SHE is GUILTY! If ANYTHING, she should be THANKFUL and APPRECIATIVE 🤠.*
I have been 24 years old, she was flattered by his advances. This woman is not a victim.
Pam Ayers But he pursued her!
Jojo Jo she was 24! She was also flattered by his advances and let her ego get the best of her. She is totally acting like a victim and basking in her 15 mins. Women are culpable too.
Exactly! As soon as Matt put the moves on her in his second e-mail to her, she was turned on. "Oh cool,.THE Matt Lauer is attracted to me,.I'm going for it!"
+ Pam Ayers - 👍I totally agree.
By virtue of this reasoning, the legal age of women should be 30 then. She is not a victim.
She had an affair with a married man. She is equally complicit. The only victim I see is Matt Lauer's wife. This lady knew what she was getting into. Advice my keester.
Andrea constand is no victim either
Exactly. But she is broke. She wants $$$$$. So the only way to get paid is to be a victim.
@bloopers18+ I agree. She is not a victim. But she has to try and pretend to be one if she wants to get paid.
yes some people are not blameless either and the one found out is not the worst one in all this either many more involved !!!
megain is no angel that hurts her father .and poor sick sister .and also her x husband .has a very cruel lying heart too certainly much abuse of status and other peoples money ,shocking despicable too.without remorse how can such nasty wicked ones ever be fit to go to heaven unless they come clean and cry over their evil deeds.
Why did she ask for his advice twice if she knew he was coming on to her and that made her uncomfortable?
She was young and ambitious and thought she could use her fem charms to get a head. She knew he was married and didn't care..... no one forced her to do anything, she knew what she was doing when she kept asking him for "advice" lol
She knew he was married. 24 is old enough to know better, she is not getting the sympathy vote.
Neither is Matt Lauer.
My sympathy goes to all the other women that had to work around this mess, or didn't get promotions or jobs because they weren't screwing anyone. Or ANYONE, man or woman who finds that these situations demoralize the workplace.
And you can fire people for engaging in adulterous affairs in the workplace. They do many times in Connecticut and New Jersey. They're called moral turpitude laws.
No sympathy for the Matt Lauers of the world. I'm glad they took him down.
How did Krazy Kelly even get approval for this story? I really am asking, not rhetorically. I'm not sure of the date, but perhaps NBC wanted as much as they could get on Matt Lauer to make sure no one questioned his firing?
I didn't know about that, that's interesting. Now I can't stop thinking about that comment and forgot what else I was going to ask lol.
Think back to when you were 24. Were you really that smart? She was approached by the head guy, the big honcho. I remember being 24 and that naïve and that stupid. I blame Matt Lauer. I get out of my situation before it was too late. But I felt so stupid later, it was the first time someone did that to me because I was young, pretty, and naïve.
Agreed , she knew better and was completely in agreement with everything that happened.
She doesn't need to be a part of this, she wasn't assaulted. She was old enough to make a decision about who she wanted to be in a relationship with.
Sooooo true!!!!!! She was easy!
Luca D yeah but, she wants to be on TV, and this looked like the best way to do it.
I want some attention ME TOO
Facts!
Exactly 😒😒😒
She was 24 years old - an adult - and she maybe an adult decision to have an affair with a married man. Who cares??
Exactly!
I can see both sides to this. I used to work at a restaurant while I was in college. I was 20-22. My 50-something year old married GM constantly and I mean _constantly_ hit on me. Looking back, I should’ve quit because he made me so uncomfortable- but I stuck it out. The power imbalance is a very real thing that a lot of women have to deal with. I still felt like a kid, even at 21. However I was smart enough to not sleep with him. I was old enough to realize that he was a creep. He was a very good looking man too. He’d always offer me training positions, he offered me a manager position, gave me the best shifts, favored me in front of everyone that it made people hate me there. I still shudder thinking about what I was put through and I didn’t even sleep with the guy! BUT I can hold my head high knowing no matter what anyone else thought of me, I kept my dignity and chose not to sleep with a married man. I’m now a successful professional woman who never slept with any man to get to where I am
Respect to you
You had the choice to make that decision as she did as well
You loved the attention. Don't try and act like you're some kind of a victim. Kudos for not sleeping with him, but you're not a victim.
She clearly said that had a professional relationship for years, not that he was constantly hitting on her. She had a consensual relationship with a married man.
@@Myopinionmattersthemost yes but women don't take any responsibility for their own behavior. So therefore she's a victim.
What Lauer did was wrong, but Megyn is rubbing salt in it. NBC should not use Matt's departure for ratings. This seems really wrong and lame.
Everyone's capitalizing on the issue & jumping on the "me too" bandwagon. attention-seekers.
Matt brought Oreilly on after his fall and lambasted him for doing what he had done himself.
Are u kidding me!!!! she was a 24 year old woman. she meet with a married man and had multiple mutual encounters. He never bribed her or nothing like that. And here she sits and plays a victim role. She should be ashamed of herself and the Today show as well.
David Stan she's not playing the victim, she specifically pointed out that she had a part in all of this and was hard to forgive herself. She is ashamed and is simply stating that Matt had coaxed her into having the affair. Her coming forward about her experience may help convince others about the current allegations against him and his colleague.
David Stan I
Word..100%
David Stan because he is a fornicator
A story that takes away from the real #MeToo victims. She’s denying her own role in an adulterous relationship.
Everyone is ignoring the power imbalance. Why did he choose such a young woman?
No no no.. she agreed and went along with it. This shouldn’t even be a story
I support the "Me too" movement but there is no crime committed here. She is as bad as him.
It does seem that "disproportionately" women have more of a need to discuss their affairs than men.
A 24 year old WOMAN, should know better than sleeping with a married man. Period.
I guess you've never made a mistake in your life, so you can judge.
ericka grant
a 41 yr old married man should know better than to proposition a 24 yr old woman he works with. Period!
Matt Lauer was married.. propositioned this aide where he worked, and SHE was the one that that should "know better"? Seriously? Quit the victim blaming.. it lets him off the hook.
Davida Wood No doubt that Matt Lauer is to blame also. My point being that women are stronger than you may think. They actually have the ability to recognize a snake before engaging with him. No 'victim blaming' here because she WAS NOT A VICTIM! l
She is doing a diservice to REAL victims.
Mike Brink yes! She was "a young kid"! Noooooo, she was an adult and could have refused his advances. Both to blame. However, I would NEVER tell this story on tv. I have made mistakes but would never talk about it on tv! So strange to me! Do not feel sympathy! She is not "a victim".
Why is she talking about this publicly? Isnt she ashamed of herself? We all have done shameful things in our past but we hope it never comes to light and here she is outing herself. Why would she want to embarrass her family.? So strange
TheCallie1981 juuuuuuust a post-wall last ditch attention grab.
Money.
money or fame.....nah definitely money.
she's outing herself as a bed winch, no sane and great guy will ever marry her now. and if she's already married or in a relationship, I'm sure her significant other is questing the validity of their relationship as she had no problems cheating with a married man plus she plays the victim
This is insane. Take responsibility for your own actions! At age 24, you’re an adult!
she did say several times that she is taking full responsibility for her actions, my question to you, have you ever done something wrong in your life???
She was having to navigate advances from a powerful man within her workplace. At 24. As a PA, with knowledge that he could destroy your career with one phonecall. I certainly wasn't equipped at 24 with the worldliness to handle a delicate matter like that. I applaud you if you were.
Exactly how is she a victim? She admits she was an adult of sound mind and that the relationship was consensual. So how is she a victim?
She was not a victim. She was a home wrecker.
@@bobogilvie7820 She is an educated adult isn't she?
@@bobogilvie7820 Hey Bob, this has nothing to do with having a daughter or not. She knew what she was doing. She was an adult and responsible for her actions. Your "I hope you don't have a daughter" comment, that is just you saying "I want to shut down this conversation because you make too much sense and I am too chivalrous and too much of a simp to allow that common sense to go uncontested." Do not do that Bob. Do not be a betamale Bob.
And yes I do have a daughter. And she knows right from wrong. Apparently, you do NOT know right from wrong. Oh and have a Happy Thanksgiving.
@@paulcolburn3855 interesting take there, Paul. Hopefully your daughter is completely transparent with you. And never encounters men with your thought process. Good luck.
@@BT-ch9gf Its the correct take. And I do like the word "transparency" but we both know the only reason why you are using it in this case, is because you are attempting to reframe this whole argument and make it personal towards me. I got you BT. You'll note, I never make things personal as a result of people who argue with me.
In the future, you are welcome to argue with me. But next time, try to use logic discussing the issue at hand (in this case, her behavior) instead of taking the personal attack route like you just did. Because when you do that, you lose your case.
This is a non story because it was consensual.
No sympathy from me. She was 24, not a child, she knew he was married.
I agree she needs to zip it and call it a day!
@@Nurse2639 use all girl this way
Beverley Johnson she’s definitely Not a victim!just trashy!
Matt lauer knew he was married
@Sindy Lou Not really, plenty of women got married even into their 40s. I've done geneology on my family, so I know. Even divorces happened among Protestants. Matt Lauer is gross and he was abusive to Ann Curry. He was protected because of his background. That tribe will always protect their own. The fact that he even had that much power has just as much to do with discrimination as it does talent. Who says HE deserved to be where he was in life ? According to Ronan Farrow, Weinstein used an Israeli spy to go after him when he was writing about Matt Lauer. I believe it.
She knew and could of said NO and walked out but she gave in. They both to blame.
She is culpable of being flirty and stupid. She was totally flattered by him and got sucked in. She totally knew what she was doing when she went to him for advice about the profession.
Hi Pam hope you’re okay?
Please...She said she was taking a job out of town, she could have simply said no and walked away, I call BS on this.And then she said it went on for a month after that, GTFOH!!!
Modern Savage25 is that what they are calling it these days? I don't buy it....
NBC is fake news. Kelly is fake news. What did u expect? Sorry u got let down. I know how to prevent this. Stop watching faux nbc cnn cbs abc! Alphabet agencies are a scam!
trha2222 No, I've never cheated on my wife, unlike you some of us have standards....
@Modern Savage25 I think the fact that it lasted a month says that her fun with a married man lasted only a month...
This is embarrassing. It detracts from real victims. She was perfectly able to say no. Absolutely despicable.
They're acting like consent is a criminal act. It's yellow journalism and probably makes them good money.
Roger B I agree. I think it was messed up for him to cheat on his wife, and for her to sleep with him knowing he was married. They were both old enough to know better.
Modern Savage25 I was a small town girl at age 23 as well but I knew well enough not to sleep with a married man no matter how powerful. He's guilty too, clearly but this wasn't a case of him forcing himself on her, threatening that she would never move up if she didn't sleep with him, raping her, etc. They're both guilty parties and Lauer is clearly a slimy creep overall, I'm not arguing that point whatsoever.
@Modern Savage25
Small town girls are the ones who still hold some of that "family value" thing i.e. they are even more strict about sleeping with married men. In the cities,sleeping with people is just ,well sleeping with people,whoever it is
100% agreed
So she slept with a married man, for a month and is now somehow a victim??? There’s “a lot of shame attached because what YOU DID was shameful. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
.... and then you go on national television and talk about it. This woman knew what she was doing! She had the option to say no!
I'm not buying it. She is not a victim. Why is this even a story?
R Wallace she is calling it harassment she wanted to climb the corporate ladder now she wants to play the victim you know and I know she could have turn that off like a light switch but she chose to open the door now she wants to play the victim Matt's wife and children their the victim
she wants to set an example for democrat college students, that it's ok to get fked in bathrooms ,bent over toilets, in pursuit of a career. Which will never be fulfilling.
I totally agree. This is no story. This has no relevance to his otherwise "bad" behavior.
Not a new story... it's actually the oldest story in time...
You cheated with a married man. Here's some advice: When a married man invites you to lunch he's not concerned about your nutrition....
You could've stood in the hallway at the studio and 'gotten his advice' in public for 10 min...
How much advice did you NEED??
R Wallace He hit on her, he had power over her... THAT makes her a victim of his sexual harassment
I think it’s women like this that make real victims look silly. I believe that she knew what she was doing and she was flattered by him and was willing to do what she did.
FarAboveRubies ! Ummm of course she was and he knew it! She is a victim. He knew the power he was wielding. Bottom line your not allowed to seduce the girls at the office especially when your in a position of authority or like ever.
Kristin Lara, That’s nonsense Kristin. She was 24 years old. She knew what she was doing. I’m sure she bragged to her friends during their affair. Take responsibility women🤮🤮🤮
And did he help her with her career ...that was the plan wasn't it ....they both wanted something .....his was on the lower vibration side that's all...
@@mantis10_surf85 No, as a person you work at your office, you are very afraid, and it is not nice to work in an environment, where there is alot of stress pressure or mistakes. Jobs and money we are talking here.
@Josue2018 No, that is not true.
She was an adult and Matt was a successful good looking guy and I'm certain many women threw themselves at him. It cannot be that two consenting adults in a relationship can years later be portrait as inappropriate. This is ridiculous and out of control.
They were not equals in terms of power in the workplace though. He was clearly the more powerful and authority figure, and he used his position to take advantage of her. Had he just met her in a social situation, and they did not work together, then there is no wrongdoing here. But he met her at work, and the balance of power was clearly in his favour.
@@NLR759 You guys both leave enormous spaces between sentences for no reason, you should hook up or something
@LisaR777 The scenario of a young female (or male) being taken advantage of by a powerful authority figure is believable when the young female (or male) is under 21 not a 24 year old. Them not being equals in terms of power in the workplace and him clearly the more powerful and an authority figure doesn't change the fact that she was a consenting adult (one who was in her mid 20's) in their affair nor does it make her innocent in the situation. What he did was inappropriate but she's not a victim.
@@crystalb4178 Why stop at 24 and not 30? Maybe guys should only lie with women if there is a letter of approval from a panel of approved individuals whose only job is to tell a woman when she can and cannot trust her desires. Ridiculous. I've been young myself, whatever happened to commiting mistakes and learning from them? If it was a mistake at all. Once again, this is out of control. Maybe guys should sue women as well for seducing them a few years later or humans should no longer respond to attraction at all.
@@crystalb4178 No one is claiming it was a crime. But it was inappropriate.
You have to have morals to guide through life! How does someone not know it's wrong to sleep with a married man. My 13 year old knows this!
Indeed you have a point. But on the subject of morals, why did the producers not reign him in when he showed unnecessary & creepy behavior towards female guests on his show. I saw only one interview with Sandra Bullock & that was all i needed to see. The producers should all be removed from their positions, they too are culpable in his continuing behavior.
@@susanford2388 Ratings
@@ttaylor758 until they get sued for knowingly allowing his behavior then suddenly ratings are not of any importance.
Granted, she was 24, not under age, but he was almost twice her age. Really sick behavior on Matt's part because he was the one with power, and he was married. She was young and impressionable and made a bad choice. That does not excuse Matt's horrific behavior. He should have been fired. I wonder why men can't keep their pants zipped at work.
THIS! Young women today just blame others; they don’t take responsibility for their horrible ADULT choices. Somehow it’s always someone else’s fault. And like you said my preteens know you don’t so much as flirt with a married man. It’s called character, girls. Get some.
Bottom line he was married and she wasnt a child
Bingo!
Hi Penny hope you’re okay?
Really??? Yes we do dumb things in our early 20's.. But this is not harassment. This is just a young woman making a dumb decision with a sleazy man. I am not demeaning this woman but this is a common occurrence in any young woman's life. We do dumb things and hopefully learn not to repeat them! And,yes, I've been there!!
I agree with you. She knew he was married, she was on her way out to another job somewhere else and she just went along with this? Yah okay. Im not trying to say what Matt Lauer did was not disgusting but she had a choice. I guess we all make mistakes and we try to learn from them.
Amen sista!
It would be harrasment if she had said no and he persisted. There was nothing but willing participants in this situation.
reenougle -- did Matt do you too ???
reenougle She never said she was a victim or harassed. She took ownership and said it was a huge mistake for which she is very ashamed. Megyan is trying to spin it a bit but any rational thinking adult can see through that. Judge not lest ye be judged. Com'on now.
She should take this to Judge Judy! She’ll definitely put her in her place to tell her she’s not a Victim! SMH
Gotta say, I would never bring this to television or public consumption - in the same situation. I like privacy. I own my stuff.
If a guy is hitting on you in the workplace then asking him for professional advice is not the thing to do.
Kate B True. That should make you stop right there and tell him to have some respect.
Kate B Exactly. She should be embarrassed to tell this story. This is a stupid show.
It's difficult to ask for advice with your mouth full.
Women go nuts when they find out that they were not the only one. For some reason a woman has an affair with a married man and believes he has never done this with anyone else. They feel important and when they find out they were just another of the man's bedroom buddies they feel cheapened. I understand it. As was said on the video, always choose honor. You have to be able to look yourself in the mirror and like what you see.
She should have texted and him." This is totally inappropriate behavior Matt lauer" . He would have left her alone. Men in power try to see how much they can push the boundaries. She took the bait.
So she had an affair with a married man at work. It is not sexual assault. Just a very bad decision and what did she expect, she knew Matt was married with kids. Rather surprised by this interview. She was 24 year old woman and had a choice here. She must have known what was going to happen when she was invited to his dressing room! Come one!!
No one said it was sexual assault.
Hi Rita hope you’re okay?
Something similar happened to me at a pharmaceutical company and he later got me fired. I knew it was wrong, the getting me fired, but I didn’t think I could speak up. The age gap was also big. In my case he wasn’t married, but I thought he was “the one”. I am grateful to these woman that share their experiences and help me put into context the power game. I still haven’t gotten over it but each time I hear this I heal a little bit more. I hope no one ever goes through it. I remember feeling stuck, like I couldn’t walk away from the relationship because it would affect my job. Even as I write this I feel anyone who reads it would think, “ how ridiculous, it was just another relationship”. Until you live it and even years after it happened can you start to begin to understand. I actually have not had another relationship since then because it is so difficult to trust myswlf that I am choosing a good person. Please be careful when getting into a relationship with someone in the office. Unfortunately many begin at work, but make sure it is not someone with more power than you. Sorry this is not well written as I still have yet so much to learn from this experience.
She regrets being the office mattress. Period. Too bad so sad for you.
Exactly!!!
" Even though the relationship was consenual"..... She let it continue and now shes a victim ? What ?
This is progressive thinking it's dangerous
@@ap0lmc - Yep, welcome to topsy turvy LaLa Land
It happens everyday.
She did not say she was a victim, she owned her share of the responsibility. He was in a position of power and took advantage of it
@@NightinGal89Power imbalance is acting like a victim. So are higher ups never allowed to catch feelings? Its one thing to stay professional and outside of professional settings to try and get to know someone you work with and its another to use that power one has to get someone to do something against their will. You are making her sound like a victim. Spare me your preaching.
Wow this is despicable. This woman CHOSE to do this and is blaming Matt? Also she KNEW he had a wife and continued to be a home wrecker? Gosh so stupid.
Emily McCormick Lol. Just Look at yourself.
Emily McCormick exactly
Dude, look at the bigger picture, he preyed on women. It's not about who slept with who.
he messaged her "you're killing me, it's hard to focus." And then after reading that she went and met him for a private lunch! what am I missing here?
Emily Gabrielse - He hit on her, he had power over her... THAT makes her a victim of his sexual harassment
She took it in the back and enjoyed it. Time to get 15mins of fame.
Both grown men and women who ''go through'' a relationship at work... be they married or not, know well... what they are getting into and know the power dynamic. It was not his responsibility to further her career nor to give her any advice whatsoever.
Consensual but she chooses to air all the details. Ridiculous. These women give us a bad name.
Thank you 🙏
Often times a story like this is worth money.
Meng Jan...
This woman was eloquent, not whiny and owning her part in the whole mess. She didn't give any woman a bad name. This is what it looks like to own your part in a messy situation. Kudos to here.
NO!! Women who negate other women`s truth because they are unable to respect the perspective of another woman ( that they are unwilling to relate too) introduce shame and ridicule......there is no shame or inaccuracy in telling your truth ..... just the freedom from other peoples stereotypical cages.
Meng Jan - Kathy Griffin gives you a bad name, Whoopee Goldberg gives you a bad name! Oh! And don't forget The "Lardassians!"
I am currently 24 and I have been propositioned by a married boss twice my age. We would always joke back and for about frivolous platonic things. But one day I happened to walk pass him outside of work and he told me to come back to his hotel room. I thought he was joking because we always joke but then when I realized he was serious, I laughed and said "No, I'm sure your wife wouldn't like that" and walked off quickly. And he never made any uncomfortable advances like that to me again. He respected my boundaries and we continued to keep it professional with the occasional joke here and there. I think the main point here is to trust your gut, when you feel like you are in a comprimising position regardless of the potential benefits you may acquire from submitting to it.
Alisha C good girl! You trusted your gut and as a result preserved your dignity and self-respect 👍👍
Alisha you have morals a lot of people don't you turn that situation off like a light switch this girl wants to play the victim she knows she is not the victim his wife and children are the victim you did the right thing
Alisha C what we learn from it? Never marry, better just have fun with guys your whole life. They all cheat anyway
I'm glad you told this story Alisha as I have compassion for anyone who is truly victimized, but I have also found with the #metoo movement and everything we are now hearing that women are being painted very much weaker than they are. While in my experience, and I've seen it happen twice, when a woman lays down the ground rules and is firm - it will, more times than not - put a stop to things. It usually embarrasses the other individual, as well, and makes them a better person. On the other hand, yes, there are truly some rogues out there, but by and large, at least the ones I know...most men are not animals and will back off when signals are clear.
Which is a bit of a problem in and of itself and very much depends on individuals involved in a particular situation and how each of them perceives things, etc. As flirting is a delicate art and a woman may not be flirting at all in her own mind. Thus the need for absolute clarity and firmness. It won't solve every problem, but I'm pretty sure it will solve most.
I also don't think this is a 'woman only' problem as much as it is portrayed. Though on the other hand, as a man, I can honestly say that for some reason I'm really not as bothered by things as much as a woman is. I'm sure I will get a lot of anger directed at me for that, but both sexes need to talk openly and honestly and not be afraid to do so. I'm also, actually, a pretty sensitive guy, so if I don't always get it perhaps it will help people understand why other men might not get it and a conversation can begin there without beating each other over the head.
For instance, I've been sexually harassed, well beyond its specific dictionary definition, and though I found it annoying, after it got to a certain point - where it may not have gotten if I said something sooner - when I said 'enough is enough' it ended and this has happened 4 times and in one case the woman was my superior and in the other my direct boss. So because I was able to handle these things, I suppose that's why I believe others probably can, too, or am I wrong? Sorry, too, if I was not respectful enough but I'm trying to be fair about all of this as some of the women who I have seen talk about their 'horrible experience' seem to be complicit in it. Such as the woman in this video, for instance.
@@christophertyler5544 understood
She consented, her ego was probably stroked because a celebrity hit on her. She is no victim. She wants her 15 minutes of fame it seems .
Oh dear! Then: "I am an adult and I'm going to have a relationship with this bloke." Now: "My feelings were hurt when I didn't get what I wanted from that relationship so I will play the victim card." Who puts this tripe on TV!
I think you missed a large chunk of this interview.
Don’t take women seriously. Only they can say crap like this on tv with a straight face.
Keep in mind SHE slept with him the first time then did it over and over again for a month knowing he’s married. So there’s that.
So what are you trying to say?
T L I’m just putting it out there you draw your conclusion
T L she’s nasty
She was 24. That's barely an adult
Jonida Sanço 18 is adult but nonetheless her story doesn’t look good I agree Matt is a disgusting creepo but still story sounds rough
"Matt seemed flirty", 20 years her senior, married man, insisted she needed "advice" from him twice, ok'd having lunch with him...You were confused? ....I am confused , how a 24-year-old was not able to pick up any cues this would end up in bed. I don't buy it.
Why "advice" and not advice? Is it so hard for you to believe that someone can ask another person for advice? It's not unusual. In fact it is very common, and i'm sure you know that. Also, people flirt, and say flattering things to others without pursuing them, without making advances whether it be verbal, physical, or both. ie, there is an element of doubt and uncertainty as to what will/could happen. And things don't have to end up in bed. If it turns out the other person fails to actually follow through on their word/promise and does in fact makes advances, that would be the point at which decisions would have to be made as to the course of action. It was her decision to have an affair and she made that knowingly and intentionally. That, along with the consequences of that decision is on her. My point is that up until the point when he was very clear about his intentions, esp. physically (trying to kiss her, for ex.), she's not to blame for any of that.
Riley Scott he should be responsible for his actions. “She should have known” but in reality “he should have known” he is a married grown person.
No Mercy aA
@@WordsofHarmony both at fault.
When I was 24 I worked for a high end fashion brand. Whenever I had to walk into the manufacturing department, I was stared at by one particular person. It was definitely harassment. When I told my boss, she said to me, I dress too cute and that’s why men look at you. This is why we have to speak up. At 24 your brain is not formed to handle these situations. I totally back Addie up when she says there was no one to talk about her anxiety with. She owns what she did. She’s is sharing because she was an impressionable 24 year old, as most 24 year olds are. That is the reality of it. Do not vilify her. These men know what they are doing.
Ya.. all of a sudden at 24 she’s innocent & confused .. when she explains it she’s proud of it.. 17 years later she realized her sexuality is gone, and she’s just collecting on the highest status dude..
Exactly!
Sounds like a sexually relationship gone bad NOT sexual harassment
“HE” set up lunch? Like she was forced to go.. She takes no responsibility in her role.
She does take a little bit of responsibility in this interview but still, she still tries to come up way too much like a victim.
Megyn Kelly is licking her chops she loved adding fuel to the fire!
I knew exactly what I was doing at 24 yrs. old. She is just mad that he didn't "INVEST' in her.
Matt told her he’s going to Marry her and she fell for it! I bet her rent was paid!
I would feel bad for her BUT she kept going back to him, she knew he was married yes he’s wrong for cheating on his wife. In this case I don’t see that she was forced to do this.
Just a skank
Ok, hold on a second... Why is this on TV? She had a consensual relationship with someone who had the life she wanted and looked up to. Any regrets are hers to carry. There's no way she didn't know what was happening. His advances could have been rebuffed at any time. It's not like he held her down... he said 'meet me here'. She could have simply not shown up. She was excited by it, until she felt regret. Most people would probably sleep with their heroes given the chance, especially if they could do it in secret.
"I wanted advice..." Right. Then get it from Katie C, who got you the job. He stepped outside his marriage which is lame on his part, but this whole interview is a smear job, trying to paint him as a demon and her as this little innocent angel. She was 24 ffs. What a joke.
Agree 1000%. She could have said no at any time. She could have "playfully" rejected him. Only if he forced her (in the dressing room) to do anything, would it be wrong. But she kept going back for a month. Did he "Lure" her as she stated? YES. That's usually how flirting works. But nowhere in this interview did I here him threatening her job or promotion. For the record, I'm not defending Matt L. I've read enough of the other stories to know he was a dirtbag. But this story is completely normal in any office/workspace.
She knew exactly what she was doing and enjoyed it so much she went back for more. Unbelievable.
I agree 100%. this whole interview was a joke.
24 yrs - ADULT. Plain and simple. How do they say?? Riding the "C" Carousal in your 20's??? She made the decision - I disagree with Matt's decision, but..?? sometimes these things happen - both people guilty
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Glad to see women in the comments slashing thru this BS. There are real victims, they deserve our support and empathy.
Can't believe Meghan didn't challenge her.
It was terrible, he took me out to a nice restaurant. Then he drove me home. I ask him if he would like to come up for a drink. I changed into my sleeping clothes because it was getting late. He commented on how nice I looked in my lingerie. We had a couple drinks and I told him about how long it had been since I had a boyfriend and I was getting very lonely. Especially at night. Then that creep leans in and tries to kiss me. I was shocked. What in the world made in think I was interested in him that way.
Yeah gals, We just can't seem to figure you out.
As creepy as Matt is, not sure he is to blame for this grown woman’s foolishness. At 24 you should know better than to be screwing a married man. Not sure why this woman is been given air time.
I agree.
Sounds about white
"White" ?
Oh so he has no blame?! That’s wrong. They both are to blame! He was the pursuer.
Mary Saxon, Of course they're both to blame but Matt isn't on TV acting like a victim and trying to get sympathy. She is.
It was consensual. She was legal. yes, he is a creep. END OF STORY
she had feelings for el creepo. END OF STORY
diana levy Totally agree with you. I cannot stand Megyn. She's a Hyprocite
ikr
Absolutely! I completely agree!
obviously she didnt find him a creep while she was smashing him
It takes two to tango. She is just as guilty as Mat Lauer. She came back to Mat countless times just to gain something.
She screwed the guy for her career gain, knowing he’s married. I don’t understand how this is harassment?
It's very refreshing to read the comments of so many people holding the woman accountable for her part in this. I was expecting all the feminists to do that thing they always do of "all men are evil and all women are victims". Lauer was wrong in what he did absolutely, but she was a willing participant. Nobody made her sleep with a married man. She's not a victim of anything.
Bonani Mathambo not at all a victim
I just hope a woman like her doesn't profit from her bad choice playing the victim with a book deal or some type of magazine spread. "Strong" should be for people who make the hard right choices.
True.
For real yo hahaha
I was just gonna say....this girl crossed a lot of levels of consent to get to that place. She doesn't deserve sympathy or millions of dollars. she had the facts and the evidence to stay away.
Why is she even opening her mouth if it was consensual? She is looking just as bad as he is.
s g
the point of the interview is to find out the situation that women are in when propositioned inappropriately. Even if it was consensual, it was sexual harrassment and very inappropriate. For one thing, Matt Lauer was married, and for another thing, he was her superior at work. This is pretty much the definition of sexual harrassment, and the interview is to educate others on why this is a difficult situation for women in the workplace.
Davida Wood
It's only classified as sexual harassment if it was unwarranted and unwelcome. She sure seemed to welcome it if she was already leaving that position, was able-bodied and consented to a month-long sexual relationship.
She's not a good example for those who have truly been sexually harassed, especially when contradicting herself throughout the entire interview, and frankly does not merit a time slot on national television.
Davida Wood no if she had. Said no then its harrassment if he says something it's not welcome she expresses that and if it ever happens again
s g fornication is a sin
Any time these me too's speak they show what a joke the movement really is.
Savanah Guthrie should be proud that she spent so much time protecting Matt.
She wanted him badly, still does. This woman was never over the fact he did not leave his wife and stayed with her.
Women must learn to say no .u knew the man was married what do u think was really happening.cant put all the blame on Matt it takes two to tangle.
Delta Duke yeah I agree with you. She shouldn’t have agreed to meet him. She knew what he wanted!
You know the expression is " two to Tango" like the dance... right?
Once you're over 21, you are a full fledged adult,..you know what an affair is. Matt and that woman from NBC were BOTH responsible for their affair. She got as much out of it as Matt did. She was getting a high knowing that she was having an affair with this powerful guy at NBC, and might have even subconsciously been thinking it would get her ahead in the company. We are getting too broad with our definitions of what sexual harassment is, and everyone just wants to get on the "I've been sexually harassed" train, or club, or whatever. It's taking away the legitimacy of women who've actually been harassed or hit on...people have affairs, and if all the women who later regret it, and want to wash it away by coming out and saying they were "sexually harassed," are just not taking responsibility for their part in it.
She can be faulted for immaturity and naivete.
I totally agree with your statement totally. She was old enough to be responsible. She cooperated and is NOT a victim. This is not sexual harassment. She was just plain stupid.
ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!! COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE!!!
You're correct. Also, I read an account from someone that knew her in the army where She went after this. She always got what she wanted with the hire up. As a sergeant she was also "pals" with her ADMIRAL. She wouldn't pay attention to anyone on her level unless she had to.
Heather Munoz, Admiral is Navy. He was probably a lieutenant or captain.
So she tried to sleep her way to the top and it's somebody else's fault
This is me to on a different level she slept with a married man, didn't get what she wanted and now somehow is a victim. Honestly it's getting ridiculous now.
Megyn Kelly was inaccurate at the end. This lady didn't have to sleep with Lauer to save her job. She was leaving anyway. She chose to sleep with him to help her career and because his star-power turned her on, probably even more so that he was married.
Pretty much dead on. How is this a story? I'd rather she go over to Extra or to some tabloid and talk about her relationship with Matt Lauer.
Nailed it!
It annoys me homewrecker
It annoys me I crazy embarrassing for women I would think. Hooking up in the bathroom at the DNC? I would hope women are smarter than that.
His FIRST communication to her was inappropriate and she knew it because of him saying "I hope you don't drag me to personnel over this." So her response is can I get some advice from you? OK, let's go to lunch? What were her responses during lunch? How did she respond after each encounter? Did she flirt with him back? Cut the crap. She knew what was up and was a willing participant.
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@@bobogilvie7820 yes but I wouldn't blame someone for the decisions I myself made. Ridiculous.
@@bobogilvie7820 take responsibility for your own actions snowflake ❄️
I guess she wants money...why embarrass yourself like this? Looks like she hasn't learned anything. Like my mother used to say.."Honey Ray Charles can see through that."
What else is off about this whole complaint is that she stated that it was Katie Couric who brought her into the organization, so if she felt Matt was being inappropriate, she could have reached back out out to Katie for advice.
7:55 "I don't want to pour salt on the wounds", yet here you are on national TV pouring salt on the wounds. OK lady.
This woman was not a kid at that age! Omg! Lady you’re not fooling anybody! Even a sixteen year old would know wrong from right!
24 is not a young kid!!
SuperEdge67 yes it is lol
I agree, and it has also bothered me that a few women have referred to Monica Lewinsky as a child when she was around that same age. I'm no Bill Clinton apologist and that was gross, but it didn't make him a child molester. Ugh.
@@sarahkoob1156 no it's not when your old enough to be sent too prison for life you are no longer a kid
Matt Abused his Power!!!! Period!!!!
I was married with 2 kids st the age of 24!!!!
She mad cause she sleep with him and her career stayed the same
Why else would she sleep with him ? Why on earth would a girl her age want him ? And he knew it too. He was far from the victim. They both should have been fired.
ewok cardewas nooooo she was sexually harassed. She was a victim of his sexual harassment.
@@ahill4642 lol yeah right
Sounds like it.
No, you obviously don’t know how she felt, you haven’t walked in her shoes
Sorry Megan. Stop making her a victim. She was an adult. She made the choice to meet him in his dressing room. You make me sick. You joke.
She is not a victim cut it out she was meeting him she likes him
Real simple, if a married man asks you to meet him DON'T.
Rita R. Always easier to blame the woman, huh? She was young and excited and probably flattered.... and no ring on her finger.
How about this: if you are married, don’t ask another person out!!
Rita R. It's NOT that simple when there is a power imbalance. HE deserves shaming, not her.
@@ahill4642 exactly!! I don't understand why so many people miss that part. He knew what he was doing and some people are easily manipulated in a situation like this.
That's common sense
Your not a victim if you choose to sleep with someone.
Carol Christiansen Who said she was
You could be depending on how things unfolded, but I'm not sure in this instance this was the case. She didn't make a strong case about how she was compelled, but Lauer is still to blame for exploiting his position, whether or not she is a victim.
@@romant142 Did you actually watch and hear her say numerous times that she owns her part in it?
neverevenheardofit ya I did
Carol Christiansen Yes you are, if there is a power imbalance.
Kudos to her for having the courage to speak out. To all the Judges below... you just don't get it, and probably never will.
I must be immature ! 4 years later...I still LOVE this !
This sounds like an affair. Nothing more, nothing less. Still a creepy guy.
Mytube777 she sounds creepy to me too!!
She just wants money,,her version of events are so coached
And ALL she wanted was advice? From a guy who had already hit on her prior?? Surrrrre. I'm embarrassed for her just watching this, she was 24, not 18, was willingly, knowingly sleeping with a married man, and yet has the gall to play the victim here??? "It was HIS goal."
AND then she says her family is afraid for her?? Goombah Matt is arranging a hit on her?
richard levari
I second that!
Because it IS nothing but an affair. This has become so ridiculous. People have affairs, married people have affairs, and she wants sympathy because she had an affair with him? Had he advanced her career during this affair, her story would not be told.
Okay, confused, MOST women would find Matt responsible for HIS part, but like a typical "homewrecker," she does not care to acknowledge how SKETCHY and unethical SHE was towards his WIFE's mentality and well-being/future (and their CHILDREN)!
bell lab don't you see what she is portraying. If it wasn't her he came after it would be someone else. She didn't persue him like he did her. So he is his own home wrecker. Even if every woman in the world resisted him; he was still be his own home wrecker because he carried these plans and intentions in his heart. So he was still guilty
All of these people are going to claim sexual harassment bull crap they could have put Matt in his place right then in there and turned all of it off like a light switch they probably came on to him it does affect the whole family including the grandkids
The majority of people got have these issues for other women's attention yes they do Rick their own families but the women who chooses to be a part of it remember they choose it they feed into it she could turn it off like a light switch and be done but she like the attention herself now she wants to play the victim I don't think so his wife is the victim
bell lab ,mm
I just can't bring myself to feel sorry for her. I think she knew exactly what she was doing.
"So, when I heard other women were complaining about Matt Lauer's advances, I realized I might make some cash suing NBC...I mean, I had to tell my story."
Struggling to listen to much after hearing “24 years old” and “Even though it was consensual”
It’s really good to see that most of the people see that this is just as much her fault as his.
But maybe... 24 is the new 'infant'?
I know I am so late and happy holidays but yes! Thanks for saying the things we just are not allowed to say anymore...but it's true.
SHE'S NOT A VICTIM
SHE WAS 24 !!!!!!!!
She clearly wants to be a victim. Though she is only going to be victim to ridicule.
Overwhelmed? Confused? More like flattered and excited....
No one’s perfect she was probably vulnerable at the moment and he got out the right time. She was really young and that happens a lot young women and men. Hope she is mentally stable now and doing better.
Even as women this infuriates me!!!! Just say no...she was already leaving...."My goal was to have see me as a person"...Then don't sleep with these guys ....It leads to her uncredibility......empower younger women? Younger women now are too smart for this victim mentality.....
It's like...I'm leaving, are you stopping me? It sounds like she's still flirting with him.
How is she a victim exactly? And she knew he was married. Why is she bragging about being a piece of crap?
The comment section is blowing her story out of proportion - all she said was she felt he was taking advantage of her at work which hurt her feelings. I think her point is that a powerful man used his position to sway her into doing things she wouldn't normally do - things outside of her comfort zone - for his own personal objective, which is morally corrupt.
She had an easy out. All she had to say, was... No, you're married, I can't , I'm sorry.
Sounds more like a jilted lover than a victim
R Wallace mm-hmm
I'm glad they've taken Matt Lauer down.
The women that aren't willing to play the game in this industry are the real victims, as well as women who are fed images every day of women who only got into industries by lying on their backs.
Buh bye Matt Lauers of the world.
Sleezebag.
And she messed with a married Men..Dont feel sorry for her!
sprit monroe Valid point,that should have been addressed in this interview.
It wasn't addressed in this interview because it doesn't fit in with all of "man bashing" and "man blaming" that's been going on in the media for the past few months. Sexual harrassment is wrong. However, many of these cases lately blame men for having consensual relationships with women.
nope.
sprit monroe I sure don’t! What I have to say to her is “karma”
sprit monroe- if he was smart he would have done some pr damage control and pay her off to keep her mouth shut.
I'm still waiting to hear how Lauer victimized her. She seems to be blaming him for her poor choices. Choices she made multiple times.
Here was a way out - "sorry Matt, but I have a boyfriend."
I was 24 once, but certainly not the type to get caught up with 'titles,' and 'power.' There's such a thing called morality. I'm not trying to be preachy, but she could have simply stated, look, I think you do a great job as an anchor, but I'm not interested in having a sexual relationship with a married man.
More than likely, she was trying to test the waters, to see if she would be able to snag a new position at NBC (and not have to relocate to West Virginia for a news reporter job).
Why would I show compassion for a woman who willfully committed adultery to get ahead? I have been in situations where so called married "Sr. Leaders" in government hit on me and wanted to see if I would go along with it. I have always believed in doing what is right. As such, I saved the instant messages that were sent to me as evidence and submitted it to HR. HR did not fire him for sending me inappropriate messages about my body, they simply asked if the instant messages were legitimate, he apologized for the "mishap" and they transferred me to another office/division. I followed up with HR and attempted to file an official complaint against him, but it was apparent that the Sr. people in HR did not want to support me with complaint, because it would have drawn a lot of negative attention to the department and the administration's lackluster leadership.
Repeat - thanks for the compliment, Matt, but I have a serious boyfriend.
trha2222 if he didn’t, THAT would be good timing to report it. Not after you already banged him 500 times.
Just say: “Hey Matt! Today I can’t because I gotta go to my lady doctor, it hurts when I pee” 🤗😜