STARVED AND KILLED - The case of Debbie Leitch

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  • Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
  • Debbie Leitch was supposed to be kept safe by her mother Elaine Clarke. She had every opportunity to give her beautiful daughter a chance to thrive and be happy. This didn’t happen. Join me in my latest True Crime episode where I take a look at how this sad story unfolded and how child social services once again made mistakes which were catastrophic.
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  • @Queersailorscout
    @Queersailorscout Рік тому +69

    As a disabled person (autistic), I always get nervous about true crime cases covering the death of a disabled person. So often people get the tone completely wrong, painting their lives as tragic or their murderers (often the caregivers) as horrible but understandable, because obviously disabled people are so burdensome, or treated as perpetual children without lives outside of this idealized inspiration porn character. You gave Debbie humanity. You told her story without these pitfalls and so respectfully to her. You treated her as a human being, loved by her family and failed by systems, not her disability. This is the first video I’ve watched from you and I will definitely be watching more thanks to the care you give Debbie in this story.

    • @Queersailorscout
      @Queersailorscout Рік тому +9

      Whoa and actually discussing the ableism in society and how it leaks into social services I love your depth!

    • @AlexandraBolz
      @AlexandraBolz 6 місяців тому +3

      I can totally agree with this as an autistic person myself. Any true crime case involving vulnerable disabled people hit me so hard and it is so hard to listen to.

    • @tanyadodson6847
      @tanyadodson6847 5 місяців тому +3

      hi my son is autistic your both special every one very special needs are special ❤

  • @alexiskangootui8614
    @alexiskangootui8614 2 роки тому +319

    "Don't be afraid to offend someone" is something my mom tells me when it comes to my safety. Never be afraid to speak up or say no if you feel something is wrong

    • @marielagent4387
      @marielagent4387 2 роки тому +9

      Smart lady.

    • @nycdyke2867
      @nycdyke2867 2 роки тому +5

      @@marielagent4387 person* everyone should be taught this.

    • @marielagent4387
      @marielagent4387 2 роки тому +10

      @@nycdyke2867 If it's her mother, it's *lady. Mother meaning woman, girl, lady... just saying.

    • @marielagent4387
      @marielagent4387 2 роки тому +6

      @@nycdyke2867 Saying smart person would mean we didn't know if it was a man or a woman being talked about.

    • @lesterine77
      @lesterine77 Рік тому +8

      @@marielagent4387 wow. I have to say this is most nitpicking I've ever read on UA-cam. Person/lady. Those both refer to one individual. Whatever

  • @seafossil2221
    @seafossil2221 2 роки тому +278

    The fact that her mom cleaned her up, cleaned up the room she was held in, made her wear baggy clothes to hide the extreme scabies rashes and how malnourished she was, and many other things shows that she knew and fully understood what she was doing was wrong.

    • @Janetbringsawareness
      @Janetbringsawareness Рік тому +3

      Agreed

    • @barrythomas2357
      @barrythomas2357 Рік тому +7

      And she was capable of caring for Debbie but , she couldn't be bothered 😢

    • @gemmahayward9027
      @gemmahayward9027 Рік тому +13

      100% and also as a parent if I genuinely was unable to care for my children, I would either use the money to hire help or ask for assistance from services. The fact her dad was willing to have her with him and she wanted that is even more upsetting as this could have been easily prevented by him caring for her. I think the mum just wanted the money for herself

    • @christine-bean
      @christine-bean Рік тому +4

      Doctors license should be revolked. He/She did not follow the oath of medicine which they agreed to follow when given the license 😢

    • @elizabethrennick9407
      @elizabethrennick9407 Рік тому +1

      I totally agree with you it’s about time they were held accountable

  • @Kelseyd475
    @Kelseyd475 Рік тому +86

    As a disabled person, thank you for this amplification of victims and survivors voices. This is the first true crime video I’ve ever watched that brought up the very real topic of ableism and how it upholds the constant barriers and lack of acceptance our society has for disabled people.

  • @ingalynne1985
    @ingalynne1985 2 роки тому +312

    As a person with a disability these cases really affect me at a very primal level. Thank you so much for the work you do.

    • @theentity5201
      @theentity5201 2 роки тому +1

      same here I hate the world so much, me being disabled, i cant come to terms with being disabled, as a person with autism i dont care at all for the atypicals, i dont even adjust myself to be more atypical, i actually make them put up with my autistic quirks and force them to change. I dont owe them anything, i use aggression as they taught me to supplement my lack of social skills that autism affected and intimidate them. However by default i do wear the skin of an atypical so at face value i look like one, my brain and mind are ADHD/autistic, I do wish more autistics took the fight to the atypicals.
      I have a lot of hate and anger, its making me very ill, the whole "life isn't fair" thing drives me insane

    • @sourgreendolly7685
      @sourgreendolly7685 2 роки тому +11

      @@theentity5201 I understand completely. I wasn’t even diagnosed with ADHD until I was a full adult because of the focus being on making me “normal”
      Small correction- we’re the atypicals, they’re the “typicals” because they think of themselves as the default, correct way to be 🙄

    • @CrustyUgg
      @CrustyUgg 2 роки тому

      @@sourgreendolly7685 lol ADHD isn't a disability though. It's manageable. Having Down's syndrome isn't even comparable to having adhd.

    • @WhileMyGuineaPigGentlyWheeks
      @WhileMyGuineaPigGentlyWheeks 2 роки тому +1

      Bless You, my friend ❤️

  • @Dog-ru1rz
    @Dog-ru1rz 2 роки тому +26

    As a grown ass woman, Emma's attitude is what keeps me coming here. She is like a shapeshifter. Sometimes she gives the comfort of a loving mom, sometimes she is a fellow citizen that i can get pissed of at the system with, sometimes she is involuntarily funny, and sometimes she says "no shit" at the exactly same time as me. Love ya.

  • @india1422
    @india1422 2 роки тому +310

    How many times are we going to hear about children at risk being let down by people who are safeguarding them

    • @Useless_101
      @Useless_101 2 роки тому +8

      100 percent! It just shouldnt happen but it does and the only ones at fault are those within proximity of the children! Like Em says "call the police" even if it offends someone. Better to offend someone than have Em have to tell as a heart breaking story of what could have been prevented 😓

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 2 роки тому +2

      😡🤬😡🤬😡

    • @mobilemetal4554
      @mobilemetal4554 2 роки тому +11

      And how many times are we going to hear stories of the authorities brushing it off.

    • @emeryltekutsu4357
      @emeryltekutsu4357 2 роки тому

      @@mobilemetal4554 That's the thing. People who want to help often can't because the government will stop them, and also the government won't intervene and help, either.
      Think about why they can't take her. It's because the government has decided they don't have the authority, even if she's literally dying.
      And they call the services that are supposedly providing help, only to get shrugged at. This is very normal.
      We're stuck in a situation now where we know of a vulnerable man with a poor family, but calling on them might put him in an even worse situation. People like him don't get well taken care of and outsiders are barred from intervening without getting themselves in potentially major trouble.

    • @katj3443
      @katj3443 2 роки тому +11

      @@mobilemetal4554 reminds me of the Gabriel Fernandez case, the police believed his abusive neglectful mother over a child showing obvious signs of abuse and neglect even labelling the child as a trouble maker and threatening the poor boy with jail. Man bet those cops regret that now or do they. There sadly are some seriously questionable people in the wrong position of power, they can’t see the situation beyond their own nose. Then who’s is to suffer, when the ones that are there to protect the vulnerable do not do their job. What because it’s not your area you ignore signs of abuse….

  • @sharonmulcahy3215
    @sharonmulcahy3215 2 роки тому +121

    Until CPS and social services are held accountable and taken to court, nothing will change

    • @sarahwhalley2913
      @sarahwhalley2913 Рік тому +1

      Agree needs to be accountability

    • @HillbillyYEEHAA
      @HillbillyYEEHAA Рік тому +1

      It won't happen. They fail too many children. In order to sue, you need to have been taken into care byv them. Which makes no sense to me because I should have been taken and they didn't.
      I should have been taken about 5 or 6 but was left until I was 18.
      They didn't care

  • @jaymers25
    @jaymers25 2 роки тому +339

    I am a mother of special needs boys. I’m so happy that you covered ableism immediately in this video. Thank you for standing up and giving us a voice in the community! Much love Emma ❤️

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 2 роки тому +3

      ❤️🥰❤️

    • @tamarakindle73
      @tamarakindle73 2 роки тому +17

      I also am a mother of two special needs boys...and yes Thank you Emma! I don't care what that so called "mother" had to deal with she neglected, starved, tortured, and murdered that poor girl and I think the doctor that did the home visits and the workers who went to the home to work with the brother and admitted to hear her crying in her room and did nothing should face jail time. The killed her too just the same as the mother by their neglect.

    • @FrankiesFancy
      @FrankiesFancy 2 роки тому

      There's another newly made up word... "Ableism". Wtf does that even mean??

    • @yelena86
      @yelena86 2 роки тому

      🙏❤️

    • @xsargantxshaftx7997
      @xsargantxshaftx7997 2 роки тому +4

      @@tamarakindle73 I’ll never understand any of it. What’s the point of hurting another person? Power? Especially someone who is so much more vulnerable than you are. It’s like hitting an baby. It’s disgusting.

  • @TheIxyavi
    @TheIxyavi 2 роки тому +112

    As someone who has tried and failed to become a mother for many many years, stories like these are particularly horrific. Nothing hurts me more than the realization of how many undeserving people have children.

    • @Kirramagic
      @Kirramagic Рік тому +3

      That's why there should be a parenting licence. So you catch out these people, so they can't get their hands on precious little ones, cause why should they have children/babies when they don't care in the first place?

    • @janat6501
      @janat6501 Рік тому +4

      Absolutly not trying to be insensitive by saying this but im currently pregnant and this Video made me seriously cry. Im still terrified of the thought of losing my baby or anything happening to him or her (im also type 1 diabetic which makes it that much harder) and there are people willingly hurting and even killing their own children. It completly breaks my heart.

    • @ALouiseMoore
      @ALouiseMoore Рік тому +1

      @@janat6501 congratulations mama!

    • @deniece0821
      @deniece0821 Рік тому +2

      @Beth Ann First, let me offer my empathy to you. I'm not going to say stupid shit like "If it's meant to be, it will happen..." yadda yadda. People generally mean well when they say it but they don't realize how condescending or annoying that it can be. I also won't try to offer you any insane old wives remedies. I will just say that I've been there. I can be devastated when all you've wanted to be since you were a little girl was a mommy. Also, sometimes it happens once you've given up hope. That's how it went for me and I now have three grown children.💓💙💙
      It IS incredibly frustrating when perfectly good, loving and capable people struggle to conceive. A couple of my best friends would've made AMAZING parents but were never able to conceive. I was going to be a surrogate for them years ago but it just didn't work out. (His sperm count was very low and she had PCOS and severe endometriosis.) They were never able to adopt because of the astronomical costs. They are the perfect Auntie and Uncle to a bunch of kiddos, though. Mine included.
      Something that greatly disturbs me concerning kids with Down Syndrome is how so many people act like they are disposable. When I was pregnant with my boys, both times my prenatal tests indicated that there was a strong possibility that they could have DS. I was asked if I wanted an amniocentesis to confirm or deny it. I declined because amniocentesis carries a risk of miscarriage &/or pre-term labor. I said that I would be fine with however my child would be born. The health care professionals looked at me like I had a third eye. They reiterated that I could have the test and if it confirmed DS, I could abort the baby and try again. This was said so blasé and nonchalantly with both pregnancies. This blew my mind and I've since found out that it's rather routine with pregnant moms who may be carrying a baby with DS. Unfortunately many of them do abort because they don't want a child with DS.
      I'm also a nurse and I've worked with little kids and adults with DS. They are awesome and gifted people! I don't mean intellectually gifted. I mean they are spiritually gifted. Every single person that I've ever met with DS has been such a pleasant, optimistic, happy, kind and caring person. It's as if that extra chromosome that DS folks have is some kind of happiness and human kindness chromosome.🥰
      People that insist on having the "perfect baby" should NOT be parents. The first and most important job as a parent is *UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.*
      Btw, none of my children were born with DS. My middle son was born with a congenital heart defect, though. He had to have major open heart surgery when he was 16 but he recovered and is doing fine now. Ironically, many kiddos with DS have congenital heart defects.
      Anyhooty, sorry for my rambling on. It's just a very sore subject with me. I honestly do not understand why so many people think that babies and people with DS are just "throw aways."😔
      @Jane T Congratulations! When are you due?🐣

    • @racheldoesacrylic4089
      @racheldoesacrylic4089 Рік тому +1

      i have a hamster that has a terrible skin condition took her to vet 3 times for treatment which helps but due to her age it is ongoing, and she lost all her fur the scratching and watching her suffer have had me in tears because i have tried everything to help this little loved creature / i am thinking i care for my hamster more than this mother cared for her precious daughter /the itching must have been terrible we all know the feeling at some time in our life, this makes me wanna cry knowing what she went through xxx

  • @demismith4646
    @demismith4646 2 роки тому +221

    I have been in the care of social services since I was literally hours old. I have seen and been involved first hand in the failures of social services, I have seen first hand how they can fail people so horribly it’s horrific. I am currently I’m my 3 year studying to become a social worker and watching stories like this, as well as baby P, Victoria climbe and little arthur makes me just wanna qualify that much faster so I can help stop the deaths of innocent children who are the most vulnerable.
    Thank you for bringing attention to the children in the world who are being let down by a service which was set up to protect them. I send my regard to Debbie’s niece and other family members who tried to save her

    • @PaganPunk
      @PaganPunk 2 роки тому +10

      Ellie Butler too 💔

    • @MJARTBYDAY
      @MJARTBYDAY 2 роки тому +8

      Kudos to you .. please pass your courses so that you can show them what caring about children means. My son was failed badly by them too and so did the police. What he went through was unreal with my ex. Good luck to you sweetheart we need caring genuine loving people to be social workers and then we know that these kids will not be failed anymore as it needs reforming. xx

    • @eveeybean5254
      @eveeybean5254 2 роки тому +13

      Good luck on your final year, also in my final year too. I’ve also seen bad practice and have my own mental health issues and disabilities. There needs to be people with lived experience working in social care, and people who will go above and beyond to stop this kind of neglect escalating.

    • @Tsunami1.618
      @Tsunami1.618 2 роки тому +18

      Please please dont let the system ruin your ambition and desire to help those who need it, as a mother of a disabled child (well he is 29 but will always be my baby lol) i have seen SO many brilliant social workers who have had the passion drained out of them because of bureaucracy and red tape and paperwork. Dont ever forget why you started doing what you are doing and always keep that at the heart of what you do. Good luck in the future.

    • @mememe217
      @mememe217 2 роки тому +2

      Thank u so much for doing what you do!!!!! AND I CAN’T WAIT UNTIL YOU BECOME THE 1 TO CHANGE THE WORLD!!!!!!
      From all the loving mammas out here….. THANK YOU! 💕

  • @alisoncomollatti3496
    @alisoncomollatti3496 2 роки тому +33

    As a mother with a child with Down syndrome this story had every part of me filled with anger. Everyday I fight for my daughters rights and to ensure she is safe happy and cared for. And then here is this person just using her own daughter as a pay check and then to just lie over and over is just sick. I hope Deborah is resting in peace and safely in gods arms. 😢

    • @michellea8461
      @michellea8461 11 місяців тому +4

      My daughter has Down Syndrome as well. This story is sickening 😢

    • @KioskKrew
      @KioskKrew 10 місяців тому +1

      My brother had Downs too. This is abhorent and evil😢

  • @pamd6532
    @pamd6532 2 роки тому +183

    This story made me feel physically sick. I have two children. The oldest is gifted with an off the charts IQ. The second is a child who had a stroke at 2 days of age. I have seen the far ranges of the world. I have been at awards ceremonies for high achievers where parents feel pride at the gold medals of high scores and best grades in a classroom, and I have also been at Special Olympics events where we all cheer for every person. I promise I would rather be around my cluster of parents of special needs parents where we look after each other and each other's children than at the high achievers events where they compare and only cheer for their own and politely clap for the others. Debbie's mother does not deserve the honor of being the parent of one of the rare jewels in life.

    • @irenedavo3768
      @irenedavo3768 2 роки тому +4

      Send hugs

    • @cruisepaige
      @cruisepaige 2 роки тому +4

      My nephew is in your situation. He and his wife are the perfect pair for these kids to have as parents, but seeing you talk about your family like this gives me comfort. I love them all to bits and send them and you all the love and all the energy in the world.

    • @pamd6532
      @pamd6532 2 роки тому

      @@cruisepaige Many blessings and thanks

    • @cyberpunkedgerunner2644
      @cyberpunkedgerunner2644 2 роки тому

      Thats cuz parents of high achievers r toxic as fuck. Narcissistic cunts mostly.

    • @pinkfluffydino8217
      @pinkfluffydino8217 2 роки тому +8

      My twins competed in Special Olympics events and they are some of the happiest memories I have with them! I totally understand what you mean. I’ve noticed with my gifted & talented level daughter & son though that they are more alike with my 2 autistic sons than I ever would have guessed! They all require specialized teaching and help and I’ve had to fight for it for both ends of the spectrum. We’ve been very lucky to make amazing friends on both ends though and been able to find families with similar situations to ours to help support and receive support from. It’s been pretty amazing overall on both ends.

  • @Lorenuk
    @Lorenuk 2 роки тому +148

    Debbie wasn’t only murdered it was torture these cases are getting worse and worse it’s heartbreaking 💔

    • @Cbawtam
      @Cbawtam Рік тому +6

      Agreed completely. In cases of such systematic torture and abuse the sentence should be life imprisonment (as in never getting out of jail because there is always a threat to the outside world). Yet the sentence is less even when they have murdered someone in the long way? How does that work?

    • @truecrimebuff5631
      @truecrimebuff5631 Рік тому +4

      Rip Debbie I’m so very sorry that you was failed by so many people. And when your relatives try to get help no one listened. I hope that so called mother suffers for the rest of her natural life.

    • @loracorkhill2824
      @loracorkhill2824 Рік тому +1

      @@truecrimebuff5631 d😊

    • @cherylstevens4717
      @cherylstevens4717 Рік тому +2

      @@loracorkhill2824 Hope debbie is having a wonderful time up in heaven and enjoying her beautiful life. May she rest in bittersweet heavenly peace until she's reunited with her dad and siblings again one day in the afterlife.

    • @cr2486
      @cr2486 Рік тому +1

      I've lost faith in humanity 😔

  • @kimmaree9610
    @kimmaree9610 2 роки тому +419

    Hey Emma, As an adult with a disability I often feel like I could go to the doctor with my arm falling off and I would still get sent home with a Panadol after being told that it’s nothing but my poorly understood but obvious disability. I’m also a social worker who works in disability and I see medical and social neglect of my clients all the time. It’s disgusting but it happens. I’m so sorry for Debbie. It breaks my heart. I wish someone would have helped her. I have no doubt that her disability played a part in why she wasn’t.

    • @markbrady6684
      @markbrady6684 2 роки тому +2

      J

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 2 роки тому +2

      😔😢😔

    • @stinks7065
      @stinks7065 2 роки тому +1

      Oh absolutely. I'm glad someone said this. I think it especially played a part in no-one listening to her when she expressed that she wanted to live elsewhere -- so many people think that people with certain disabilities just cannot understand what's going on with them or cannot be trusted to make decisions like these themselves.

    • @billy6pack887
      @billy6pack887 2 роки тому +6

      You probably need something like low dose hydromorphone or morphine or some strongish opioid, but now doctors are paranoid that everyone is just a drug seeker, and just care to keep their licenses. You can order (real) Lyrica online for quite cheap if your issue is mostly nerve pain. But yea I'd look around for a doctor who actually gets you. I know they're hard to find. Had the same issues with my back for years. Good luck.

    • @kimmaree9610
      @kimmaree9610 2 роки тому +1

      @@billy6pack887 Thank you for the information, very kind of you to take the time. much appreciated

  • @CrumbDiaries
    @CrumbDiaries 2 роки тому +20

    My son is developmentally delayed with extremely limited language. He's very stoic and will not admit to pain or discomfort because he fears me bringing him to the doctor. He was spending a lot of time in his room and I assumed he was becoming depressed until he started violently vomiting, and we took him to the closest emergency room. They did bloodwork/urine/ultrasound/HIDA scan and discovered that his gallbladder was 100% failing and he needed to be admitted immediately for surgery. After several hours waiting, the surgeon came in and said he didn't feel comfortable removing his gallbladder because he didn't seem 'sick enough'. I explained that he wouldn't admit to discomfort and the surgeon argued that he would/should be in so much pain there would be no way to hide it. So even though he had multiple high tech tests that his own hospital had just run that showed that my son was VERY sick, this surgeon ultimately refused to perform the surgery. I had to discharge him and drive him 75 miles to the children's hospital we had dealt with all throughout his childhood and they put him in as priority gallbladder removal. I still can't get over the whole experience and if I'd listened to that doctor my son would have suffered needlessly for who knows how much longer. I also cringe to think about a day that I may not be here and someone else is caring for my son and if not paying close attention may miss clues regarding his health.

    • @siriuslyconfused1
      @siriuslyconfused1 2 роки тому +6

      I’ve been dismissed often over “you would be in so much pain you couldn’t stand right now if that was what is wrong” my heart goes out to you and your son, as someone with chronic pain that fight is always the worst, I avoid doctors because they just invalidate my pain and act like I’m crazy. Thank you for being an advocate for your son, as proven here, it’s not something all parents would do.

    • @lisajada1505
      @lisajada1505 2 роки тому +2

      @@siriuslyconfused1 I get told due to me having a traumatic and abusive childhood Im more sensitive to pain.As I have depression and the specialist saying this is highly regarded his paper trail of notes is believed even 20 years later.Mind you he is a urologist not a psychologist but even 20 years later(he has now retired)his notes are in my file.He told me I only deserve paracetamol and discriminated against my mental illness well before he even met me.When I challenged him he said I believe you are in pain but the pain receptors in your brain are close to where you react to trauma and are probably going into overdrive.He made my life hell and as I’m on benefits I can only see who is in the public system who are all his ex colleagues.Im in Australia 🇦🇺 and wish I had money to go privately.

  • @Claire-be4gd
    @Claire-be4gd 2 роки тому +258

    I feel so Angry , this case make my blood boil,, I was a support worker I worked with young adults with down syndrome , most loving people you could ever meet ..RIP beautiful Girl 💜🙏😢

    • @32446
      @32446 2 роки тому +11

      Totally agree. As a parent with a child with complex special needs I know lots of children and young people with Down Syndrome and due to their needs they van be so vulnerable. 😡

    • @rachelstarkey1685
      @rachelstarkey1685 2 роки тому +4

      Thats so true by sisters bf ad has a lovely kind down sydrome brother called carl hes so sweet kind innocent bless him hes fav song that he sings every day with hes head phones in is sweet caroline...my sis soph sais hes such a character loving when my sis stayed with them back in november....carl said come soph lets have selfy soph he put hes arms round her pulled soph in for selfy with carl he said....this story gonna be sad now lets listen to case ...greetings to you ...from rachel uk devon bideford v peace out 🌻🌼🌻🏵💮🏵

    • @harridottie
      @harridottie 2 роки тому +7

      This video made me so angry. So many warning signs and red flags.
      Heads should roll.😡

    • @jackiedolman3326
      @jackiedolman3326 2 роки тому

      I was just about to say those exact words..my blood is boiling, what a disgusting woman, I hope she rots in hell. I'm a support worker and look after so many vulnerable people , this really does break my heart x

    • @marthamarceau2977
      @marthamarceau2977 2 роки тому +1

      Ups syndrum are so luving there's never a reason to harm them

  • @phyllislindeboom2944
    @phyllislindeboom2944 2 роки тому +43

    I think the family when they saw Debbie in the filthy room and she could hardly walk, should of grabbed her and took her to the hospital! They failed Debbie too by giving Elaine a two week altimatem. Then two weeks later believed her continued lies! Like you said, go ahead and insult your family!!!!

    • @yv3498
      @yv3498 6 місяців тому +1

      I agree that actually made me sooooo mad. I'm the mother of a daughter with complex medical needs and I cannot understand for the life of me why they didn't just take her themselves. Why didn't they come by more, and take her out with them to the park or the movies or anything?? They could have used that as an excuse to get her out without causing a scene. She was failed soooooo many times. 💔

  • @jenniferarted3652
    @jenniferarted3652 2 роки тому +35

    Thank you for telling Debbie’s story with so much compassion. Please do a follow up when the investigation of social services is complete. This is a tragedy that could have been prevented in so many ways.

  • @patricia8254
    @patricia8254 2 роки тому +19

    Thank you for giving her a voice and talking about her experience. May she be at peace now, she deserved better and so did her dad.

  • @openorwap5412
    @openorwap5412 2 роки тому +287

    I hope this doesn't come across as stupid, but is there anything we can do to at least make more people aware of this? I'm a huge fan of true crime for 'entertainment' (for want of a better word) but this case has really rattled me. Debbie Leitch needs to be more than a story. Each of the social service representatives involved needs to be shamed and criminally prosecuted. They are as culpable as her primary carer in my opinion. I can't call her a mother because she doesn't deserve the credit. I am SO angry!! I remember the story, but it was brief and minimised at best, I had no idea about the extent of the abuse and neglect Debbie suffered. Nowhere near!!! The Press have also done a huge disservice to Debbie. Sorry to rant but her story needs to be widely heard. That woman should never be allowed to freely walk the streets again. You are right, the law needs to be changed as a direct result of the failings contributing to Debbie's cruel death. Sorry to rant, but I've never felt so emotionally affected by someone I never had the privilege to meet, and I guess that too is the point. Rest in eternal peace Debbie. This is beyond devastating 💔

    • @sharipollard4422
      @sharipollard4422 2 роки тому +13

      I agree, I had never heard this story!

    • @tammyallen3813
      @tammyallen3813 2 роки тому +13

      Share the video

    • @tammyallen3813
      @tammyallen3813 2 роки тому +7

      Goog Goin' Openor!!!

    • @llinosjarvis2754
      @llinosjarvis2754 2 роки тому +15

      The case has been sent to court of appeal to have a look at her lenient sentence xxxx

    • @debbierosenstein8157
      @debbierosenstein8157 2 роки тому +9

      I completely agree and its encouraging to see others as shook

  • @radioactive_wolves
    @radioactive_wolves 2 роки тому +87

    As a disabled person myself I've always said that society doesn't give a shit about us and I feel like this case pretty much proves me right...

    • @cyberpunkedgerunner2644
      @cyberpunkedgerunner2644 2 роки тому

      People in general r shitty with neurotypicals do ya think they will give a shit about the neurodivergent? Nah fuck those people on their own high horse just stick to yourself and fuck the rest.

    • @stacey6887
      @stacey6887 2 роки тому +5

      It is not society as a whole but unfortunately the authorities in place are understaffed and underfunded. It truly saddens me that there is not more in place for both mental and physical additional needs

    • @X737_
      @X737_ 2 роки тому +3

      Exactly what Stacey says above.
      A great many of us care a great deal but gov cuts regardless of who is in power impact frontline delivery of even the most basic essential services it seems

    • @beccamason3712
      @beccamason3712 2 роки тому +6

      It isn’t everyone, plenty of people care, unfortunately they just end up fighting the system

    • @SirenOffspring
      @SirenOffspring Рік тому +1

      Society doesn't give a shit about anyone.

  • @renee2288
    @renee2288 2 роки тому +19

    The gasp that I let out when Emma reported on the mother’s outrageously light sentence!! Emma probably heard it across the pond! How unbelievably shocking and unjust. And then to ruminate on the idea that Debbie’s case got no coverage bc of her disability! I went from rage to utter grief and disgust, back to rage and ultimately to a deep sadness. Thank you Emma for being Debbie’s voice. Many people should be held accountable and should feel deeply ashamed for the way they let Debbie down. Heartbreaking 💔

  • @mandapanties
    @mandapanties 2 роки тому +33

    You are right about this case barely getting any attention, when I googled her name, your video was the first result..and the only video longer than like 3 minutes about this case. I appreciate you doing the hard research to create such a deep dive on this case. 💜 I just found your channel, this was the first video recommended to me, and I'm so glad I clicked it. I'm going to binge your videos now and keep watching every new video you post!

  • @TheStoneageRomeo
    @TheStoneageRomeo 2 роки тому +106

    As someone living with a physical disability, it’s just refreshing to hear someone even mention some of the challenges and display some level of awareness publicly. At times it feels as though you’re excluded from life and the adventures that it offers. No surprise at all that it’s you Em, championing the cause. Kudos.

    • @tammyallen3813
      @tammyallen3813 2 роки тому +6

      I am on the same side of the street as you are, Stoneage, and I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with every word u wrote!!!!!

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 2 роки тому +4

      🌹❤️🌹❤️🌹

    • @TheStoneageRomeo
      @TheStoneageRomeo 2 роки тому +1

      @@tammyallen3813Thank you Tammy. It’s easy to get caught in the mindset that you are alone, pushing uphill. Wishing you all the best in your travels and contentment to you.

    • @TheStoneageRomeo
      @TheStoneageRomeo 2 роки тому

      @@suzimonkey345 😘

    • @IMjustAGirlInTheWorld1983
      @IMjustAGirlInTheWorld1983 2 роки тому

      So she weighed 3 stone 10?? In pounds isnt that like 40 something pounds?!

  • @nikkiarmstrong3991
    @nikkiarmstrong3991 2 роки тому +42

    The courts and Cps are horrible at making decisions for children. The children have the right to be heard.

    • @M-13040
      @M-13040 9 місяців тому

      Society and law are extremely bias toward mothers thinking they are all saints despite the evidences. Poor Debbie has always said she wanted to live with her dad, the "mother" had already been flagged as high risk so wtf were they thinking when they placed her with that pathetic woman? I honestly don't understand why the system is so scared to remove people at risk from an abusive environment and place them somewhere safe

  • @happypug4663
    @happypug4663 2 роки тому +74

    Oh lord I have anxiety about this , as I’ve not heard of this case . I’m a mother of a physically disabled young person. I will watch as we need to learn how to protect the vulnerable among us . We must all look out .

    • @e457c04s579h057
      @e457c04s579h057 2 роки тому +7

      I’ve never heard of it either? Definitely anxiety inducing…. Glad we are hearing it first from Emma. ❤️

    • @comara2011
      @comara2011 2 роки тому +2

      ❤️

    • @WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey
      @WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey 2 роки тому +3

      I grew up surrounded by people with downs. So this will be hard. Its a double hard one because as I've just heard, Debbie is also a child. 🤢
      I agree with you that we must watch the difficult videos,the difficult ones are difficult for a reason and we need to find out how to protect ourselves and loved ones.

    • @bayleighc.5843
      @bayleighc.5843 2 роки тому +5

      I’m 24 and my mom takes care of me because I’m disabled. This case both breaks my heart and makes me so angry. I hope you and your kid are doing well.

    • @WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey
      @WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey 2 роки тому +2

      @@bayleighc.5843 Mums For The Win! ❤

  • @0livita
    @0livita 2 роки тому +10

    seeing debbie’s little smile breaks my heart! cant imagine such a sweet & beautiful girl being so completely disregarded & destroyed. i hope she is at peace with the angels- she is much too pure for this world 😭

    • @chrysanthemum5594
      @chrysanthemum5594 Рік тому

      So true😭 and the fact that she was calling her mum even when she was in pure agony instigated by that bitch mother just breaks my heart. I hope she is in a much better place now. She was such an angel💗😭

  • @nathanshirley4161
    @nathanshirley4161 2 роки тому +263

    Until social workers are legally held responsible, nothing will change.

    • @TraceyMariexx
      @TraceyMariexx 2 роки тому +7

      100%

    • @nataliesmith2458
      @nataliesmith2458 2 роки тому +8

      Absolutely!

    • @myishenhaines1706
      @myishenhaines1706 2 роки тому +18

      That’s a great concept. If they don’t do pop ins a certain amount of times, then if something happens, they too are charged for like child neglect.

    • @jodieadshead1268
      @jodieadshead1268 2 роки тому +16

      Normally, I would be the first to defend social workers. A close relative of mine was a children's social worker so I have some insight into how overstretched children's social services are and how overworked social workers are too.
      Tragically, this is a case with so many missed opportunities by professionals- they should be held accountable for their actions.
      What happened to this young woman is horrendous.

    • @mercyjokes2d696
      @mercyjokes2d696 2 роки тому +16

      A very close friend started working for the Child Protection Team. In a very short amount of time, my strong, fearless and kind friend became a withdrawn shell of herself. She thought the role would be protecting families but actually her job was protecting the department from being sued. It was paperwork.

  • @rebeccawillis6710
    @rebeccawillis6710 2 роки тому +21

    This one was particularly upsetting to watch. That poor girl suffered far too much, for far too long. It makes me so sad to think that she was so alone in the world and in such pain. Rest in peace, beautiful Debbie x

  • @stephaniehosie6335
    @stephaniehosie6335 2 роки тому +44

    Emma my son is my life. He’s a vulnerable adult and the best son I could ever of imagined having. For example : he’s Caring Generous with his love to everyone, funny, so so Kind and considerate to his family and his cat and he is Happy in his life so far fingers crossed 🤞
    Love your channel xs

    • @itsacarolbthing5221
      @itsacarolbthing5221 2 роки тому +1

      Well done for doing a good job in raising a happy, loving son.

    • @jessicaellina3878
      @jessicaellina3878 2 роки тому +1

      God bless him! He sounds like a real joy.. best wishes to you both💖🙂

  • @millymollymrst3537
    @millymollymrst3537 2 роки тому +16

    This breaks my heart, she should have been loved and nurtured. Why didn't she get removed from her mother?? What is wrong with social services these days, so many mistakes made. This is not acceptable. Thank you for telling This story to raise awareness.xx

  • @LindaSmith-vq1br
    @LindaSmith-vq1br 2 роки тому +50

    One summer about 15 or so years ago, I was diagnosed with a mild case of scabies. My hands and feet were infected by the mites. It was the single most itchy sensation that I ever felt. I was crazy with the itch and pain until I could see my GP. Basically I had to wait over a long weekend to get a rush appointment upon calling in. I could not wish that upon anyone. Treatment was inexpensive and quick acting. The idea of suffering that level of infestation and infection for weeks just boggles my mind and makes my heart break for Debbie. Her mother should be left in the same circumstances that she left her daughter. Unfortunately that would be designated cruel and unusual punishment. If I had the ability to enforce that type of punishment on her (Clark), well let me just say that she should thank her lucky stars that I don’t have that authority. Debbie will be remembered by many. I will do my best to forget her mother exists. Thank you again for bring this case into the spotlight.

    • @teamholmez86
      @teamholmez86 2 роки тому +1

      I beg to differ the treatment for scabies is not inexpensive at all, if you can't get it on prescription you're talking £10 per tube ( probably more now) so £10 for one treatment for one person so depending on how many people you have in the house (because you must treat everybody twice) it soon adds up for me it was going to cost £60 and that's for just 3 of us! Maybe that doesn't seem like a lot of money to you but I can tell you as somebody on the breadline for me £60 is almost one weeks worth of money I have in total so that is not in expensive. also for me it was a ongoing thing because the doctors wrongly diagnosed my psoriasis as scabies and kept prescribing the cream (only for me I had to buy the rest) over sending me to a dermatologist which they eventually did. so yes it could get extremely expensive if you had to buy the stuff yourself I'm not saying that's a excuse this woman obviously had a lot of money coming in because she was looking after somebody vulnerable and could absolutely afford the treatment or have sent her back to the hospital for inpatient treatment this case is just disgusting! Also if scabies feels anything like psoriasis I sympathise completely the itching and burning can literally drive you nuts and that's with a mild case I can't imagine what this poor girl went through 🥲

    • @LindaSmith-vq1br
      @LindaSmith-vq1br 2 роки тому +3

      @@teamholmez86 Actually in Canada, or at least Ontario, the price was quite reasonable although I don't remember the exact cost as this was a while ago. However, at the time, I would have paid the moon for a solution to that horrid itch!

    • @teamholmez86
      @teamholmez86 2 роки тому +2

      @@LindaSmith-vq1br ow that's good, I wish the UK government would make it reasonably priced here too as scabies is more common than people think it went through my son's school a few times so the least they could do is make the cream reasonably priced as well as head lice lotion that used to be free but is now on the expensive side

    • @Dee-JayW
      @Dee-JayW 2 роки тому

      My youngest son was a une handful and spent one time in the Young Offenders Centre, and scabies, head to toe scabies, ran rampant through the facility. It took some time for Dr’s to visit, once a month i believe. It was horrific with no relief for almost a year.

    • @mandiijayne9689
      @mandiijayne9689 2 роки тому

      It’s free For people on sickness benefits

  • @riawallace7560
    @riawallace7560 Рік тому +5

    It never occured to this truly beautiful young lady to stop loving her mother…cruelly ignored, unloved and eradicated from daily life!
    I can barely imagine how she suffered despite feeling a whole range of emotions from horror to pure sadness. Debbie had more love in her heart as she took her final painful breath than the woman who called herself mum could ever experience in her full life. How dare she deny such beauty to flourish.
    Thank you Emma for reminding us of this tragedy.

  • @nataliestaheli51602
    @nataliestaheli51602 2 роки тому +9

    It baffles me that there were soooooo many people who knew what was going on, and even more people who just failed that poor girl at every turn! May she rest in peace!

  • @ctward3018
    @ctward3018 2 роки тому +25

    My 10 year old boy has down syndrome and ASD and he is so loved. I can't even imagine how much sweet innocent Debbie suffered. My heart hurts listening to this but thank you for telling her story. The system and her mother failed her. Heart breaking!!

  • @Kirsty01773
    @Kirsty01773 2 роки тому +25

    my heart breaks for poor Debbie,so many missed opportunities to save her from this torture

  • @DianaEmilia911
    @DianaEmilia911 2 роки тому +34

    Two words: Gabriel Hernandez. Crimes of neglect from entire communities. Also- nice that the father wants to get her a “proper send off” after her torture and abuse for months. But where the eff was he while this was happening? Oooh the anger.

    • @lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386
      @lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386 Рік тому +16

      Gotta love how people are so quick to point fingers at grieving parents who have often been denied access and slandered. Parental alienation is also child abuse.

    • @deniece0821
      @deniece0821 Рік тому +6

      Completely agree! What stopped the father from filling reports, grievances with child/adult protective services? The court? I don't care if I would have to get a second job just to financially obtain legal counsel, nothing and nobody would stop me from seeing my child!
      Thomas (the father) has stated that Debbie repeatedly asked to go live with him but that her mother wouldn't allow it. Why didn't he persist with getting custody? He clearly had evidence that she was an unfit and abusive mother.

    • @lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386
      @lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386 Рік тому +8

      @@deniece0821 you have no idea. A second job wouldn't cover it, even if it did you'd get nowhere. You could easily make matters even worse or even end up in prison for your troubles. These clowns (I won't call them children's services) have far too much power and a very nasty habit of siding with abusers. I've seen it many times, which is why I no longer work for them.

    • @Wallflowerzizme
      @Wallflowerzizme Рік тому

      @@lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386ou would not say that about a woman. If the father was in a woman’s place, you would be pointing fingers, so don’t give me that shit. Men get away with whatever the fuck they want to and he’s equally responsible.

    • @lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386
      @lnmemoryofjohnmordaunt7386 Рік тому +4

      @@Wallflowerzizme it's called parental alienation, not father alienation, for a reason. Spitefulness doesn't discriminate. I'm female myself, and a mother, sorry to shatter your illusion.

  • @filomenadossantos4120
    @filomenadossantos4120 2 роки тому +123

    Everyone failed this child, the family included, I would have taken her that very minute away from that waste of human . No court of law would hold against my doing so !!!!! I’m soooo over child abuse daily and what they get is a holding cell, food, medical care etc

    • @loobielou6965
      @loobielou6965 2 роки тому +6

      Agreed! If I walked in and seen any of my family in that state I would have removed them myself right after I had punched the ever living shite out of their abuser.

    • @TiffWaffles
      @TiffWaffles 2 роки тому +8

      If I remember the Debbie Leitch case correctly, she had been removed from her father and put into her mother's custody and the father wasn't able to see her. He had to provide financial support and I think he was fighting hard to at least see his daughter, but the evil monster wouldn't let him even see her.
      However, it begs the question of what other family members were doing? Unless the mother had cut off all contact, made it impossible for them to even see or have any form of contact with Debbie- they would have seen her, right? They would have definitely noticed the fact that this POS mother was systematically starving Debbie.
      Apparently, a family member DID drop in a month before Debbie's death... I feel like she was the one that tried to get some sort of authorities to get involved?

    • @scarletamazon3455
      @scarletamazon3455 2 роки тому +3

      @@TiffWaffles What on earth did the father apparently do that meant he was forbidden any visitation at all?? Not even allowed phone contact with his daughter or anything?? This case is horrifying on so many levels, so many people let this poor girl down. Every single person let her down.

    • @aromaladyellie
      @aromaladyellie 2 роки тому +5

      @@scarletamazon3455 My guess is it is just because he's the father. Custody cases favour the mother, and a child this in need would be given to their mother, no questions asked. It's possible the mother did or said something in court to suggest her father having any involvement in Debbie's life would be detrimental to her health and safety. Abusers are like that.

    • @aromaladyellie
      @aromaladyellie 2 роки тому +1

      Oh yes, prison for kidnap is a great place to be to defend your child from. Because that's what would happen to you- your ex-partner would press kidnapping charges, and you'd be in prison and lose ANY HOPE of getting custody of your child.
      Great. Plan.

  • @gemmaharness1642
    @gemmaharness1642 2 роки тому +4

    “Take a risk, offend them” so so true Emma ❤xxxxxx

  • @lisajohnson1270
    @lisajohnson1270 2 роки тому +10

    I don't understand how a mother can watch your child go through pain this way, and neglect them at the same time .

  • @annsilliman6184
    @annsilliman6184 2 роки тому +12

    This just happened to a 17 year old disabled boy in my city. Because nothing was done by social services after many many calls, he died. Now there are 6 people quitting their jobs at social services, and 3 outside investigations going on. The sad thing is it happened here very similarly a few years ago, and the head of social services was only made to step down from her position. In both cases the parents have been jailed. But the schools made dozens of calls to report the conditions, and even after home visits they said nothing was wrong. In both cases the house was just like the girls room you describe, and the boys flesh had rotted off his body from bedsores, allowing the bones to protrude through the skin, and the girl was kept locked in her room, starved and raped by her older half brother. This needs to stop and it won't unless the people who work at social services are charged in these situations. Every time this happens they say they are overworked and understaffed and they give them more money to fix the problem. Until another child dies. Then the same thing happens. When will this end?!!

    • @lesterine77
      @lesterine77 Рік тому +1

      Thats so horrible. I think these social services are broken worldwide. It's not just Europe or America, it's everywhere. I don't know what needs to happen to fix it, but the current systems are worthless. They need to be completely re worked from the ground up and every single person should be replaced. They're part of the broken system. I don't have a clue what a successful system requires, but it can't get much worse than it currently is. It's appalling how they fail so spectacularly at their jobs and nothing is done.

  • @barbmartin568
    @barbmartin568 2 роки тому +24

    Has the doctor been held to account? This case infuriates me as a mom and human being

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 2 роки тому +6

    Poor little girl ... children like her are always loving and friendly she deserved so much more -Thanks for covering this story!

  • @EryberrieTrueCrime
    @EryberrieTrueCrime 2 роки тому +65

    I was taken out of a neglectful home as a toddler and sent to a foster mother who then became my adoptive mother. My situation was no where near as bad as this and Debbie should have been rescued way before it got to halfway down the road. So many were culpable here, an innocent life died in a horrific way and it makes me sick that opportunities were missed. That woman doesn't deserve liberty again!

  • @genericgoth
    @genericgoth 2 роки тому +8

    the fact she weighed under 20kg at the time of her death is so horrifying. poor angel. it’s like her mother wanted her to just waste away to nothing

  • @deltafay1981
    @deltafay1981 2 роки тому +15

    The judge needs torturing for handing out that sentence. 9 years....so that's all this beautiful life was worth?.

  • @toiletfrog
    @toiletfrog 2 роки тому +13

    Sickening. Debbie deserved so much better. She could’ve had such a full life and done so many things. Heartbreaking

  • @yasminal-jarrah5727
    @yasminal-jarrah5727 2 роки тому +58

    My only personal experience of Downs Syndrome comes from a friend who was a grandmother to a Downs Syndrome granddaughter. It has a very happy ending. Her daughter married someone who also had Downs Syndrome. They were happy and lived independently with support if and when they needed this.

    • @mercyjokes2d696
      @mercyjokes2d696 2 роки тому +3

      I'm so genuinely happy those two people were able to find one another and forge a life ahead with happiness and meaning.
      When I first started working in care homes back in early 90's, I still found people who had been in the workhouses as children and had all their teeth ripped out without consent. (They hadn't bitten anyone but their teeth were forcibly removed 'just in case' they bit someone). Heartbreaking.

    • @HumanimalChannel
      @HumanimalChannel 2 роки тому

      "Down' syndrome
      :)

    • @krazyoldkatlady192
      @krazyoldkatlady192 2 роки тому +2

      Actually. That doctor needs to lose his license to practice medicine. They are trained to know better in medical school.

    • @mercyjokes2d696
      @mercyjokes2d696 2 роки тому +3

      @@krazyoldkatlady192 I honestly think that enough health professionals don't look past their own biases to truly see the abuse in front of them. (Edited a word)

  • @emma-io1cb
    @emma-io1cb Рік тому +7

    Emma needs to be the head of social services PERIOD!!!!! I love how passionate she truly is ❤
    Rip Debbie hope you are happy now xxx

  • @kinkin6623
    @kinkin6623 2 роки тому +38

    Poor Debbie. From living her best life at college,having fun,a boyfriend 💜 she didn't deserve this. What an evil evil woman that so called care giver is. I hadn't even heard of this case and I'm appalled this case wasn't pushed harder into the press,media. I've watched alot of serial killer cases and none of them have left me feeling as furious as heartbreakingly saddened as this case has. So many times Debbie could have been saved so so many times. I will forever hold Debbie in my heart.
    Thank you Emma for bringing this case to our attention. 💜

  • @ssharkbait
    @ssharkbait 2 роки тому +7

    I work in the care field. The amount of clients I’ve had who came from homes of abuse and/or neglect is sickening. I care for adults that are so traumatized by their childhoods that they do things like dig through trash for food cause they think they won’t be fed. They get upset when people leave cause they think they won’t come back. When I left my last job I cried cause I was worried about my clients not understanding why I left and the next person who came in to care for them wouldn’t give them the support they needed. They weren’t my family, but I loved them like they were. I will NEVER be able to wrap my head around family members who neglect and abuse their loved ones who rely on them. I don’t care how hard it is. I worked 6 days a week 12 hours a day with multiple clients by myself and the thought to ever hurt any of them never crossed my mind. I have no sympathy for abusers of disabled people, period.

  • @HopelessObserver
    @HopelessObserver 2 роки тому +136

    I love hearing Emma tell a story, she brings it to life. And her messy bun is PERFECTION

    • @deltafay1981
      @deltafay1981 2 роки тому +3

      Agreed

    • @lindadee6603
      @lindadee6603 2 роки тому +4

      I agree i love her faces she does and the messy bun 😂😂😂😂

    • @zoephillips3147
      @zoephillips3147 2 роки тому +3

      I think she's the best true crimmer on you tube her depth into every case she covers is great puts so much hard work into it and it pays off.

    • @dogwhiskers8
      @dogwhiskers8 2 роки тому +4

      She's obviously very intelligent and compassionate.

    • @Neuro_spam
      @Neuro_spam 2 роки тому

      The fact that you can hear such a sad REAL event which is NOT A STORY and your take away is the story telling and "perfection" of the youtubers hairstyle is clear that this UA-camr is exploiting the victim by telling this story. Why can this girls death be used by this unrelated UA-camr to self promote as a "good story" this is disgusting….

  • @ceanura8368
    @ceanura8368 2 роки тому +8

    This broke me watching this, how can a mother be so cruel it is beyond belief, and as for social services I have no words ... :(

  • @joanodom2104
    @joanodom2104 2 роки тому +57

    I am confused by the father's lack of action. What of relatives, in general? I read that he had seen Debbie in a horrific state of being, even bathed her and dressed her excoriated skin and lesions. I just wonder why he didn't just sweep her up and get her to safety and alert the proper authorities. Did NO ONE care to investigate her absence and come to call, in order to see the condition of this young woman? Having grown up with a sibling with special needs, I have SO many questions!

    • @pinkfluffydino8217
      @pinkfluffydino8217 2 роки тому +9

      Right?! I have identical twins who are almost 24 who are special needs. I have the same questions. If I stopped caring for them my other children and their father, my husband, would take them and turn me in to the authorities I’m sure. But that’s because they’ve been raised to care for their brothers and people in similar circumstances. My 25 year old daughter has even worked in group homes and nursing care centers for disabled adults. I’m blessed to be able to keep them both in my home and care for them and learn from them and have them in my life. I cannot imagine letting anything bad happen to them! If they eat too much and get a minor tummy ache I feel helpless and just want to do anything and everything to make them feel better. I can’t fathom hearing them crying out for me in pain and suffering and just doing nothing!

    • @eire1984
      @eire1984 2 роки тому +6

      i think he was kept away by the mother

    • @xpandorasboxx
      @xpandorasboxx 2 роки тому +10

      The relatives who saw her have zero excuse, but the father I can understand why he didn't get her. The "justice system" is a piece of literal garbage who rarely gives an actual damn about actual problems and prefer to focus on harmless crimes instead. Nine times out of ten, they're going to side with the mother, even if the mother is an absolutely horrible person who openly abuses the kids, because they think, even in horrid conditions, they're better off with the mother. So he may have attempted to do something, and was simply blown off. It's obvious that every authority involved didn't care, else things wouldn't have turned out this way

    • @SailorSlay
      @SailorSlay 2 роки тому +1

      I wonder a lot about the fathers in cases like this.

    • @nomousecat
      @nomousecat 2 роки тому +8

      If he did sweep her up and take her away, the mother could have him charged kidnapping.

  • @shelbyandco1159
    @shelbyandco1159 2 роки тому +3

    Why didn’t ANYONE CALL THE POLICE at first glance? This beautiful soul would still be alive. I BLAME EVERYONE, Debbie’s family, SW, ALL THE MD’s /medical professionals…. All should be arrested. I’m a nurse and I’m APPALLED at this. So very sad. I’m ANGRY …. I’m working right now, driving ( I do home care visits ) so I haven’t listened to the whole video yet so maybe I’m writing too soon but MY LORD THAT POOR GIRL!!! I’ve just subbed. What a great story teller you are! Very engaging and I was pulled right in! Looking forward to the rest of this vid and I’m HOPING they were arrested!

  • @sueridgard9068
    @sueridgard9068 2 роки тому +31

    This story is absolutely shocking and heartbreaking. It seems the whole social services in the UK needs a complete over haul
    These cases just keep happening😢😤

    • @Tsunami1.618
      @Tsunami1.618 2 роки тому +7

      Its not just the UK who has these problems most countries do, because there is never enough money and resources for a failing world.

    • @julielambert1409
      @julielambert1409 Рік тому +5

      It’s the very same in America too! It seems that every social services in the world needs to be overhauled, that is IF there even is a social services in your country in the world! So sad and makes me so incredibly angry!!!

    • @thelelandsnextjourney9800
      @thelelandsnextjourney9800 Рік тому +3

      Not just in the UK...US is just as bad if not worse.

  • @samijeanthompson4254
    @samijeanthompson4254 2 роки тому +8

    The worst part of all of these child abuse deaths is there always seems to be some one who wants to love these kids and the abusers won’t let them go

  • @shaunanacole
    @shaunanacole 2 роки тому +19

    I can maybe understand the family not reporting it the first time, but every single time after that they should have reported it immediately!! They are just as much to blame as everyone else. And then they leave and don't even bother to check on her until the next family gathering...shame on them!! By the time they decided to call social services, this was the 3rd time they had seen her in this condition!!

  • @leighanncraig5952
    @leighanncraig5952 2 роки тому +7

    This case makes me so angry, the fact that if authorities were told there was a cannabis grow or something, they would have knocked the door down and entered the property. But when it comes to a disabled persons life, they’re like nah she’s not answering the door everything must be fine. Like WHAT THE HECK.

  • @mariennecamobell7056
    @mariennecamobell7056 2 роки тому +24

    This has been one of the most upsetting and distressing cases. Debbie was failed time and time again. I have no words for Debbie's mother.

  • @spencercole7144
    @spencercole7144 2 роки тому +3

    Please share this video around so Debbie's voice does not go unheard. This case shows exactly how the system fails victims especially those who are defenseless and the innocent. Thank you Emma for your research and bringing light to this case since the media decided it wasn't worth telling.

  • @beckyx8133
    @beckyx8133 2 роки тому +19

    This absolutely breaks my heart, poor Debbie deserved so much love and care. How anyone could treat anyone like this let alone her own “Mother” (she doesn’t deserve that title) is devastating and don’t even get me started on the services that should have been helping the poor girl. This angers me and upsets me so much. One of my children has additional needs and I protect him more than anything and would do anything to make sure he’s happy and cared for.

  • @tiniepuppie
    @tiniepuppie 2 роки тому +3

    thank you for telling this story and bringing attention to the issue of ableism in medical treatment as well as social work. as a disabled and autistic person, these cases just destroy me. your attitude towards this case gives me hope for humanity.

  • @Jade_holloway
    @Jade_holloway 2 роки тому +7

    Your speech at the end really moved me Emma, very compassionate. I will definitely not forget sweet Debbie.

  • @StarkJerk
    @StarkJerk Рік тому +1

    Thank you, Emma for speaking out about the rampant ableism in this world, the UK especially. My brother is severely disabled and I’ve got so many stories of horrifying neglect and dismissal from medical professionals and other professionals that I’ve lost count. My mum fought for him so hard, making sure his voice was heard when they tried so hard to ignore his basic needs.

  • @joanodom2104
    @joanodom2104 2 роки тому +45

    After seeing the video in its entirety, I am even more outraged. I had to stop watching periodically just to BREATHE, because I kept imagining my beloved sister with special needs laying in some dark room, starving and in horrific pain, and it was absolutely unbearable. After the institutions were shut down during the Reagan administration, I had my sister living with me for six months, in the interim period when I was touring group homes and interviewing staff, until we found a lovely home with four other women with disabilities and my sister loved them immediately and I allowed the final choice to be solely HERS. She thrived there. I visited bimonthly (it was 231 miles away) and brought her goodies and gifts. I couldn't keep her with me, due to my health issues and her non-compliance regarding medication and occasional violent outbursts. I was raising my children then, and someone needed to be with my sister 24/7. Still and all, I felt enormous guilt for not having her with me. She had all of her needs met and was happy and I STILL suffered guilt! My point being, that monstrous woman was right there SEEING her child suffering! Social services, relatives, neighbors and medical professionals ALL SHARE THE BLAME FOR KILLING DEBBIE! Perhaps her death was minimized to avoid government agencies coming under the microscope, as they are already under investigation for myriad infractions and horrors. That monster should have received life without parole. Everyone that witnessed her appalling neglect and remained silent deserve charges. This is merely one example of how little society values the differently abled and those with special needs. I suspect Clarke sacrificed Debbie to make her boyfriend the priority. I can't put into words how repulsive this needless murder is. My precious sister passed away and I would give everything to have her back. Clarke had Debbie RIGHT THERE WITH HER, and didn't give a flying f*ck that she was killing her, hour by hour, minute by minute. That precious soul trusted and adored that monster. My heart is so shattered for Debbie. I wish I could go and hug my sister, Janet. My sister knew that she was loved and valued...every day of her life. And she is mourned and enormously missed. RIP Debbie and Janet. Perhaps my sister was the one to welcome Debbie to Paradise. Wouldn't that be lovely?

    • @thatisapalmtreejudy
      @thatisapalmtreejudy 2 роки тому +4

      Absolutely Joan. Unfortunately, every government we have had, on both sides, have cut spending within the agencies that need the most. Social services, dependant on where you live, is always understaffed and overstretched, corners are cut and it always seems it is the most vulnerable that ultimately suffer. The fact that a children's social worker was there regularly and clearly thought, ugh...I can't be arsed to add to my workload, so I will ignore the cries of someone who would be an adult social workers problem... is beyond my comprehension. Especially as they would have know who was in that house and that the adult crying was vulnerable!!! It defies logic of any description. I am sure your sister felt and knew the strength of your love and she lived knowing she was cared for loved and respected. Sending big hugs from the U.K. xxxxxxx

    • @yelena86
      @yelena86 2 роки тому +1

      🙏❤️

  • @jeanwelman4427
    @jeanwelman4427 2 роки тому +5

    How horrific !!!! That "mother" should spend life in prison without parole. RIP sweet Debbie

  • @laureningham1391
    @laureningham1391 2 роки тому +59

    I’ll be trying to join you for your premiere for the first time as my daughter (with Down Syndrome) usually requires my attention at this time…needless to say I WILL be raging!

  • @maureenshaw8633
    @maureenshaw8633 Рік тому +4

    I was a senior carer working in a nursing home. 1 or 2 had scabies when they arrived at the home. I caught them on my hands. All carers and residents were treated. The lotion was what we use for nits. After all of us were treated we were free of them. No more ever had them. They are so itchy is unreal. So for this poor girl she must of been in torture especially when it was all over her. Absolutely shocking case. The mother is a monster. To see her suffering the way she did the mother should have been done for murder aswell as all the other crimes ie neglect and throw away the key. My cousin was down syndrome and he was so loving and happy go luck it was great to see. He was much fun. When he visited my home with his mum and he'd be playing with all my neighbours in the street who were kids. He wasn't treated any different to us. The only thing when we'd play chase and he caught you he was very strong. Haha. So God bless this lovely girl in heaven. She's at Jesus's side now. No more pain and suffering. How heartbreaking. She'll be playing with all the kids. But the mother from hell needs to go to hell when it's her day to die vile creature. Thank you Emma av not long come across your channel. I will be watching more that's for sure ❤

  • @suzimonkey345
    @suzimonkey345 Рік тому +11

    Her ‘mother’ slowly tortured her to death!! Her Dad wanted to care for her. He loved her! This case is absolutely disgusting.
    Emma, I would have been more interested in the history & psychology of her mother. How can a human being be so utterly cruel.

  • @nathanshirley4161
    @nathanshirley4161 2 роки тому +7

    Thanks em. Stay safe. Here is love to the vulnerable in our society ❤.

  • @normamojica8858
    @normamojica8858 2 роки тому +11

    It is heartbreaking what Debbie went through in the hands of her Mom and family. I can't understand that her aunt, cousins and siblings didn't step in and advised the authorities of the horrendous living conditions this child was living in. I have a disability, severe corporal rheumatoid arthritis, at one time I didn't have medical care rending me bed ridden, but I had my kids, my husband, friends and my elderly Mom, all had a meeting and took care of me, the house, all the Bill's, around the clock care, they bathed me, fed me, brushed my hair and kept my room clean, I love them so much, if they wouldn't be there I would have died, finally moved from NJ to FL, got all the treatments and I have recuperated, now I am self sufficient, still with my condition but alive, Debbie's family are awfull

  • @nathanshirley4161
    @nathanshirley4161 2 роки тому +18

    Thanks em. Honest and true as always. Stay safe to you, the family and just ever one out there in these scary times.

  • @debrachelette2538
    @debrachelette2538 2 роки тому +1

    I am a retired Registered Nurse. 40 years of experience. There are no words. No excuses. The mother. The doctor. The Social Worker or whomever. EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM SHOULD BE MADE TO LIVE IN THE EXACT SAME SITUATION AS THIS VULNERABLE YOUNG LADY FOR THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME DEBBIE DID WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF FOOD AND FLUID, THEN face charges to the maximum extent of the law.

  • @rachelfoster7210
    @rachelfoster7210 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you so much for covering this case Emma and for doing your best to show us all who Debbie was.
    I work in social services with adults who have complex needs and this failure is devastating and feels very personal as I work so hard to prevent this happening to anyone I am involved with.
    There are so many sides to these stories but at the end of the day another beautiful sole has left us.

  • @billiejeanbazell3126
    @billiejeanbazell3126 2 роки тому +4

    I love the way you connect to the story and the victim but also cover facts in detail

  • @enigmasky3264
    @enigmasky3264 2 роки тому +95

    I rarely react strongly to true crime stories. Generally only when it's related to paedophiles. This story is an exception. I am angry Nine years is not enough for what that woman did. Her partner getting off scot free is unconscionable. I am angry too at the family members. How could they have left Debbie there, in that condition, when they knew how she had been before.They are equally as culpable in the death as the social services. I'm an agnostic, but I truly hope there is a God and the Devil, so that all of those who failed Debbie get the full extent of what they deserve in the afterlife, given that they're not getting it in this life.

    • @cherylstevens4717
      @cherylstevens4717 Рік тому

      Clarke and bruce will forever burn in hell for all eternity.

  • @lisadempsey9259
    @lisadempsey9259 2 роки тому +10

    Emma, I think it was intentional murder influenced by "mom's" sadism. Nobody kills their meal ticket. She enjoyed Debbie's prolonged torture..I say that before God..Nothing can change my mind on this. Thank for your love and compassion for Debbie💞💞

  • @ariffjiwa3937
    @ariffjiwa3937 2 роки тому +7

    I'm half way through your show. I hope that Doctor who went to do a safeguarding visit no longer has a job and never gets to work in the medical or health industry again. This poor poor girl, 😢

  • @brendacollins1240
    @brendacollins1240 2 роки тому +4

    I’m seriously broken listening to that poor girls suffering. I live in Blackpool and it’s the first I’ve heard of the severity of neglect. Let’s call it at the least manslaughter . My MP has raised questions about the sentencing. Thank you Scott Benton.

  • @toniwalford2306
    @toniwalford2306 2 роки тому +8

    Emma your commitment and passion for the victims of these stories is bloody amazing ! And you make sure we all know who they were, and that they are the main focus. Not the waste of flesh that inflict abuse and take lives. Still sickens me how these stories are always remembered by media etc. In relation to the perpetrator 🙄

  • @andrewmethven3705
    @andrewmethven3705 2 роки тому +2

    That doctor who went to see her deserves to be sacked

  • @ninapercival4830
    @ninapercival4830 2 роки тому +5

    I have recently discovered your channel Emma and I’m loving catching up. I love your honest and passionate analysis. Thank you!
    This made my blood boil about how this beautiful and amazing young woman was utterly failed by those who should protect her.

  • @jennadare2222
    @jennadare2222 2 роки тому +2

    You’re such an amazing person and bringing light to this story. Absolutely heart breaking. When you spoke about your child calling out for you when they are distressed and how parents respond come hell or high water…. Every real parent felt that to their core. Our happiness is in their hands and their eyes ❤️ I couldn’t imagine letting my child suffer…. Not even for a moment !!!! Wow. Heart breaking 💔

  • @sophiawicks844
    @sophiawicks844 2 роки тому +16

    I wish I could add a photo! But I now know what I have for Mother’s Day !! 🤣❤️ a package just arrived with Kennys crime cult on it with a lovely little drawing 😂 .. hmmm I wonder why she asked “ who’s the lady you always listen to” the other day ! Excited to see which design she picked ! 🙌🏼❤️ xx

  • @Sarah-JadeClarke
    @Sarah-JadeClarke 5 місяців тому +1

    Debbie was my step-sister, we were the same age and spent the first 10 years of our lives growing up together. The family is the definition of dysfunctional, and all 6 of us children suffered so much abuse and neglect. Emma, thank you for validating the disgusting conditions Debbie was forced to live in, it confirmed to me that it wasn't imagined and exaggerated in my memory. Those filthy conditions were the standard conditions we lived in, and social services failed Debbie, and the others. Debbie was a beautiful girl, and deserved so much more from life. Elaine can rot in hell, she is no longer part of my life. Myself and my sister were taken into care aged 10, the other 4 children weren't as lucky, and the guilt we feel about that is ineffable. I'm a huge fan of your work Emma, and saw you live in Hastings last year! This was a hard watch, but you spoke up for Debbie, and she deserves a voice

  • @traceyforth8170
    @traceyforth8170 2 роки тому +20

    This is heartbreaking. How can a so called mother do this to their child. Its totally beyond me. Debbie deserved to be loved especially by the one person who should have truly loved her. What an evil woman. You told this with true compassion Emma. Rest in peace Debbie you sweet Angel. X

  • @chelseabradley2118
    @chelseabradley2118 2 роки тому +1

    This should be a head line story. Thank you so much for caring and giving this beautiful woman a story

  • @beth1490
    @beth1490 2 роки тому +14

    Thank you for covering this case. I love watching your channel, it’s by far my favourite.
    I just wanted to say that I really like how you talk about the wider issues in society with some cases and how the cases link to problems that exist in society. It’s really interesting and eye opening. I’d love to hear more when you are covering cases that allow you to do that.

  • @kathiekinsler
    @kathiekinsler Рік тому +4

    Why didn’t the aunt or cousin call an ambulance? They called social services instead of an ambulance? My heart breaks for that poor girl 💔

  • @maureenlaverty7490
    @maureenlaverty7490 2 роки тому +8

    This is the first case Emma has done that I’ve had to take a breather half way through. Am just full of mixed emotions at this story of poor Debbie. Anger, sadness, anger again and just in total disbelief this happened.

  • @cherylstevens4717
    @cherylstevens4717 Рік тому +1

    Thank you emma kenny you have done debbie justice by sharing her tragic story with us viewers and debbie would have been so proud of you and we can all make sure debbie and her story aren't forgotten. You are absolutely wonderful emma thank you again. Xx

  • @noonoo9392
    @noonoo9392 2 роки тому +33

    Bringing up children with needs is difficult but I would never change a thing I have had 4 children. 1 born asleep, 2 with different levels of autism with other additional diagnosis running along side and a daughter. There have been ups and downs and challenges but I love the bones of them and I don't think I'd ever feel for a minute that I wish they were different. Their love is the biggest reward and I'm proud of them every single day and so thankful for them.
    I have never heard this case before and I'm shocked. Thank you for covering this case

    • @robbiehodson5387
      @robbiehodson5387 2 роки тому

      The world needs more parents like you!

    • @miahubble7506
      @miahubble7506 2 роки тому +2

      One of my children is autistic too and I agree, wouldn’t change her for the world. She’s a blessing. She told me she loved me for the first time yesterday and I was literally in tears in the park.xx

    • @noonoo9392
      @noonoo9392 2 роки тому +1

      @Maria Hubble I remember the first time my son made eye contact and faced me for comfort. Its like being given an honour as he doesn't like to be touched unless on his terms. So happy for you. We wait so long for some of the little things in life but they mean the most

    • @miahubble7506
      @miahubble7506 2 роки тому

      @@noonoo9392 aww that’s so lovely. We are blessed. That’s why this case is so evil. The one person who should have protected and looked after that beautiful vulnerable girl, and she treated her worse than vermin. Can’t get my head around it 💔

    • @noonoo9392
      @noonoo9392 2 роки тому +1

      @Maria Hubble I will never understand it especially as she had a father who wanted to see his child and be present. If she was struggling this would have offered her respite. I just can not understand or pretend to feel any sympathy for her mother. I hope she feels an ounce of the same pain, humiliation and vulnerability in prison.

  • @Pauleysteph
    @Pauleysteph 2 роки тому +1

    I live in the United States and wish that the world did a better job of caring for those who struggle to care for themselves. I am ashamed and saddened but the lack of care on all levels. That being said, I have worked as a caretaker for 20 years and do everything in my power to see that changes are made. At times it is difficult to do your job because you are regulated beyond reason but find that there is a lack of willingness to change until something tragic happens, as in this case. Thank you for covering this case and the passion which which you shared it. Thank you to the families who truly love and care for their family members with Intellectual Disabilities. Thank you to the caretakers and others in the field who care but are often not heard. Finally, thank you to everyone with Intellectual Disabilities who allow us to learn, love, and be inspired by them.

  • @kellymotion3475
    @kellymotion3475 2 роки тому +52

    Emma's passion for compassion is just out of this world 🌎 ❤ I believe emma is an earth angel who let's us remember all the forgotten souls not the monsters who took their lives this case broke me in many pieces I have a special needs child whom I adore and is my absolute hero my world my everything I feel so blessed and honoured to be his mummy ❤ my heart aches for debbie how I wish I couldve took her home and loved and cared for her and show her how special and precious she really was no amount of jail time can justify what happened to this poor soul ❤

    • @tammyallen3813
      @tammyallen3813 2 роки тому +2

      No trueer words were ever spoken!!!

    • @DeidreL9
      @DeidreL9 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly right Kelly. Bless your beautiful heart and your beautiful child 🙏❤️

    • @ll15baiocchi27
      @ll15baiocchi27 2 роки тому

      I do too and completely agree with you.

    • @tammyallen3813
      @tammyallen3813 2 роки тому +1

      @@Sunflower-qu9lm "Angel" is the exact oposite of "monster". A way to describe a wonderful person (angel) when no other word would do it

    • @tammyallen3813
      @tammyallen3813 2 роки тому +1

      @@Sunflower-qu9lm a deity word can sometimes be used to describe a person when all other words fail in comparison. Angel, Heaven, God, etc. Great words to describe great people and what they have done. If you believe in Heaven and God and all, then one would believe there are angels and an existace, after this one, where those exist. Did that make any sense to you?

  • @blu3frogee599
    @blu3frogee599 Рік тому +2

    So glad I have found your channel. I just love your gutsy attitude. This is such a tragic story that could have been so easily avoided at many turns. THANK YOU for sharing and for all the incredible work you put in. You’re amazing! ❤

  • @moedamage
    @moedamage 2 роки тому +8

    Hi Emma. Thank you for covering this.I had not heard of it before. My son has Down’s syndrome. As part of the community the fear of neglect, abuse ( verbal and emotional, sexual and physical) is a major fear. I fear that if I’m not around what the world will subject my son to.
    We attended a doctors app recently and my son is quite vocal. But not once was the doctor engaged with him. The doctor looked at me and talked to me directly but in the end my son said “ hay I’m ill you know, not mum” Jake is my world and he has been the reason I continue in this world. At the best and worst of times he makes me laugh and smile and feel the world is a better place.
    I once wrote an article for our local newspaper about Jake as in the press at the time an eminent doctor was going on about the eradication of Down’s syndrome and that in this age of man no child with the condition should be born. I could only talk about my experience but I can say that we as a family have been blessed to have Jake and it’s not for anyone else to make the decision for a child with the condition to be born. I realise the health issues can be complex and hard to cope with.I know it is a condition that can be life limiting. It’s real to us. We have lost children we know to the conditions health issues. However to lose a life, any life, because of neglect is despicable.
    Children and adults with the condition would not really understand the lack of love or care. They are in the moment and love unconditionally themselves. Therefore would not expect anything but that in return. This is heart breaking and the professionals should be even more ashamed. Our society is a mess and this is just the tip of the problem unfortunately. I see tge way the public treat us and it has lead to us being very isolated at times.

  • @donnablackman3954
    @donnablackman3954 2 роки тому +11

    Goes to show anyone can open their legs and give birth but it takes someone special to be a mother ♥️

  • @hmbogi
    @hmbogi 2 роки тому +10

    Debbie is gone 😢 but let us remember that there are others just like her in our communities. Somewhere in a room, suffering and languishing. Extended families and friends if you see something SAY something and then DO something!