The murder of Lillie Hanrahan: A Life Taken Too Soon
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In this heartbreaking episode of Emma Kenny True Crime Stories, we journey through the deeply disturbing case of Lilly Hanrahan, an innocent child whose tragic murder sent shockwaves throughout her community and across the nation.
Psychologist and respected crime analyst, Emma Kenny, delicately navigates the distressing details of Lilly's case. Through a meticulous exploration of the timeline, she uncovers the grim sequence of events leading up to Lilly's untimely death, illuminating a tale of innocence betrayed and a life cut tragically short.
Emma discusses the painstaking investigation that ensued, leading to the arrest and conviction of Lilly's killer. Using her expertise, she seeks to comprehend the mindset and motives behind such a heinous act, exploring the psychological underpinnings of a crime that goes against every instinct of humanity.
The episode also delves into the aftermath of Lilly's murder, considering the profound grief experienced by her loved ones and the wider community, as well as the wider implications and discussions the case prompted about safeguarding children in our society.
Please note that this episode includes detailed discussions of violence against a child and may be distressing for some viewers. Our aim is to honor Lilly's memory, bring attention to this appalling crime, and promote increased awareness about the crucial importance of child protection and safety.
Join Emma Kenny as she brings humanity, understanding, and a plea for vigilance to the tragic story of Lilly Hanrahan - a stark reminder of the imperative need for vigilance and care to protect the innocent.
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I absolutely blame the monster who hurt this child & ultimately killed her. However once Helen had suspicions of him & continued leaving this sweet baby in his care, that is negligence in my opinion. I’m sure she regrets it every day because clearly she loved her but there is some willful ignorance of what was happening right under her nose. RIP baby girl. ❤
“There is a clear killer but the other abused person is the REAL killer.”
Yeah checks out 🥴
@Slim Dusty That's not what she said. Predators exist, there's no point trying to pretend they don't. That means that we, the primary caregivers need to protect.
As a parent, it is our first duty to protect our offspring from the dangerous world outside. That means being hypervigilant when it's comes to the safety and wellbeing of our children and taking action where our senses tell us there is danger.
Where a parent fails in this, then yes, they hold culpability alongside the murdering bastard who took a child's life and deserves no mercy.
Apparently common sense is not that common.
I agree! When the injuries started when he moved in is a huge hint. How could she not see it!
Totally agree with you x
Absolutely.
If lily was attacked 2 weeks before and had such awful injuries there’s no way the mother wouldn’t have noticed something was wrong with this poor girl. Fractured vertebrae?! She’d have been in agony.
Exactly my thoughts! I've fractured one vertebrae and it wasn't even that big a fracture, and I could barely breathe without pain, I couldn't lie down comfortably either and was in general just miserable and emotional,and I'm a fully grown adult ffs imagining the pain that tiny toddler must of been in is heartbreaking 💔 I would be beyond shocked if she wasn't acting differently in some way in that time! I'd expect her to be crying more, not her lively happy playful self, id also expect her to react badly to being picked up or lay on her back at say night time, I know kids can be tough but I find it hard to believe she didn't show signs of distress, poor little girl 😢
Oh she knew, I don't care how scared you're, wait till he's asleep and take a baseball bat to him. Preferably throw a wet blanket on him and start wailing on him. See how he likes a couple of broken bones.
Hi , I'm so glad you brought that up , I'm sorry for your suffering , I've had back issues but not like yours , like you wrote , Lilly would have been in agony 😔
100 percent agree. She would have to be blind deaf and dumb to not connect the dots. She enabled this.
Yes that woman had to have neglected the hell out of that baby to not know. She would’ve been and excruciating pain and she never sought medical care. She should be charged as well. And if she refused to testify against him, I would think it’s because she hurt her too.
And as for the guardian Lilly only started to get injuries after she was in relationship with the monster and she was aware that Lilly was frightened of being left with him and she refused to give any evidence in court to help convict him so please do not feel sorry for the guardian
She knew exactly what was happening and still left lily with him😢
Agree 💯 evil mother
Absolutely agree.
Yep. She plays the fool because it suited her.
Yeah I have to agree 100% and I'm sorry Emma I have to disagree with you that Helen was manipulated so much that she couldn't see the wood or the trees as we say, she knew.
wait a minute…so she’s seeing all these injuries and putting 2n 2 together that homeboys interaction with lily was the only constant….so she stops leaving him access to her and the injuries stop so she deduces he is innocent in this? not, hey hes not been alone with her and the injuries stop so hes gotta be the one? i’m sorry, heart of gold or not, that’s fucking stupid and she’s complicit as far as i’m concerned …..
….my grandbaby is named lily ❤😪
@Paty Cravey is that you Sadler?
The animal was previously done for beating his ex girlfriend with a dog chain and was out on probation when he took Lilly’s life hopefully he will rot in hell.
And as for his family sticking by him they can all rot in hell.
Dirty evil bastard hell won't take they only take evil sadistic scum
Right??!! knowing what he did, how can any family members want anything to do with him. So sad 🥵
Can I ask... Are you her bio mom?
It's mindboggling how Helen could continue to leave Lilly in his care when Lilly was clearly scared of him and there was bruising after being left in his care. Clear negligence on Helen's part. As if there was no other person in this world other than him for babysitting services. Helen should have kicked him out of her life immediately once she had suspicions.
She knew what he was like, it’s stated she knew him from school, where he had form for assaulting other students, so she knew, she had a child by him, so knew him personally, there is no way she didn’t know what he was like. She is culpable no matter what she says or however lovely people say she is… she put this waste of space before a young child!
I agree.. I would have been out of there. To me it looked as though she did not care. He was the babysitter and enabled her to have a life. After all the child was not hers , so straight away there was zero maternal instinct. Helen was most definitely not very smart . I am just trying to wrap my head around all this 😕
Agreed 👍
I’m sorry. I will never understand women who allow these kinds of men around children. I understand he was a good manipulator.. But she had her suspicions. That would be the end of our relationship as far as I’m concerned. Why would you ever risk it. 😔
Because being a single mother is scorned and it's preferable to have some help.
Some women are too desperate...
@roleat because it appears to the outside world that single mothers are unmarried and promiscuous. Otherwise where is the husband? My sister is a single mother, 3 kids by 2 dad's. The dad of the third abused my niece, she wasn't his, and he went to prison. So there you go. Just jn my family. The one single mother and the abusive "step dad"
My daughter finds men that want to abuse her children. Thank God that they are now old enough to talk about it. She would never listen to me 😱😳🤔
It's so Sick IT Happens way to much with the fathers to Letting thease women Around there kids to Like THE Gannon stauch case
Im so sorry but I have to completely disagree with your forgiveness for Helen. Aint no fucking way I would have not stopped this. Your baby has bruises every time you’ve left them with him? She clings to you and tries to distance herself from him? No excuse for that shit, theres no way in hell she didnt know
Some women are idiots...
Exactly! She left out a bunch or she did little research. She had a history with him and knew his temper. She cared more about him than she did that baby! I hope she gets hers!
Amber D. Inspiring comment.
If that little girl was in pain 2 weeks before her death how did her guardian not realise this? Surely a person knows when a child is in pain and needs to seek help.
So true! If my child hurts a finger she let's me know. Even if not verbal, they let you know in other ways. I found this very odd.
This is my thought too. How could she not have noticed this?
good question. I've wondered this too. regards.
if your Pet was in pain, You would notice, and They're non-verbal too. regards.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 Great point!
He will 51 when he’s eligible for parole? IF he survives that long!
It’s a violent world and there’s always a bigger fish ☕️
Lets hope he meets the bigger fish😁
One wonders how on earth Helen didn’t connect the dots when it came to Lily’s injuries after they started when Sadler was left with this innocent child … and how could Helen fail to notice that this little one must of been in such incredible pain in the weeks leading up to her death ..
Emma should not be making excuses for her. I have been in DV relationships and my BOYS came first, I eventually walked away*got away) But it was not her child, hmmm, I have questions about this . Was this why Helen never spotted the signs, hmmmm .. Nah, Helen WAS culpable.
I'm in Florida where we still have the death penalty and "life" usually means life. Sometimes I just don't understand your sentencing over there..
Our sentencing is utterly pathetic. Paedophiles walk free with horrifying regularity.
@@leannemcleish2683 this calls for People's justice, if You know what I mean. same regarding rapists. regards.
Mrs H 🇬🇧 ... The sentences in the UK are insulting to victims & the families ...We the public are sick of them..We're always moan about the sentencing system...😡
@@michaelhoggarth89 What are you doing to change it?
I don't understand it either!!! But unfortunately it's the same here in Australia
There is no way in hell the care didn't know.
Maybe at first she didn't, but come on.
Now that i know she left him previously for being violent and she refused to testify...im absolutely convinced she knew.
If Helen even thought or suspected for a second that he was hurting her, then that little Angel should never have been left in his care.
I am only just over half way through and I think this so-called 'guardian' is no guardian whatsoever. She must have known what was going on. So I am led to believe that, yet again, a woman has put her own needs before those of her child. It is her fault that she allowed this to happen. Ridiculous situation.
It always seems to be low class, low income, single "mothers" that allow this kind of person into their lives. I've not been in that situation but I can absolutely guarantee thst noone has ever and could ever come before my child.
I agree. She would leave the little girl alone for extended periods of time instead of taking her out with her bio kids
Being poor does not have anything to with it women are abused and are afraid to be abused themselves at times but there are also some rich one that just don't give two fox
@@Thetruththatisee what a stupid thing to say so we re to believe rich people are perfect parents tell that to the kids sexually and physically abused in upper class homes
@@TheGemini1907 I see what you're saying & don't wholly disagree; affluence is not a guarantee of good parenting. I do think that, socialogically, poverty is a factor though as it limits possibilities (or a person's perception of their possibilities) & can cause a state of desperation, a lowering of standards & a greater willingness to overlook things you wouldn't tolerate if you felt you had the options that money can bring.
if you kill someone during abusing them, it should be considered premeditation... you are going out of your way to physically harm the person, i really don’t understand how that is not.
Mind as you go Lilly
Amen sis, I will never understand that, you are going out of your way to cause harm, when enough harm is caused death can occur. If I go out of my way to hit someone with my car it may hurt them it may kill them and I knew that, 1st degree. Period.
I’ve had to take a break recently from the child content, but I knew I had to come back. I have a non verbal autistic son & in watching your videos it’s really made me more aware of sighs to look out for if he’s ever not with me. We cannot let this keep happening 💔 our most vulnerable babies need us!
Same here Emma...when I see a child is involved...I have to seriously think about my mental health and what listening to such an event will do to my thinking for the next few weeks.
You're obviously a good mother, I had similar situation keep your eyes open ❤to you and your boy xx
Also a mum to a non verbal autistic son (11). I don't leave him with anyone I am terrified of something happening to him and him being unable to tell me. I myself am a survivor of sa
Yes, sometimes you just have to stop don't you
Another mama of a non verbal autistic child. I sort of watch these as educational videos because it's made me so much more aware of the risks out there and the warning signs to look for. Harm coming to him and him no being able to tell anyone is my worst nightmare and after all ive watched I think I'd stay single if anything ever happened to my wonderful husband, there's too much risk with getting involved with someone else and people are too blinkered when they're "in love"
Why can’t life be life in the UK with nothing to take away time. No TV or radio, computer or anything similar. Not allowed to mix with other prisoners and the lights on all the time.
I’ve always said that the UK is far too lenient on its criminals. 20 years! For what he did!?! Where I’m from, his crimes=life w/out parole or death penalty, as it should be. Either way, he’d be unlikely to serve a lengthy sentence anyway. Our prisoners despise child murderers. Maybe the UK has gotten tougher about these predators? I also believe the caretaker knew, she failed that baby. So sad 😭
Men like him need to be dealt with.
It's really hard to understand how Helen missed Lily's suffering in her last few weeks. She had spinal injuries and trouble breathing. She had previously taken her for health tests and they ruled out a medical condition causing the bruising. The bruising occurred when tbat prick was around, and stopped when he wasn't. It's just not making sense. Same as the case last Sunday, where the mother absolutely failed her daughter and was made out to be blameless. Emma will you ever address these questions that i see many people asking about these two cases? I really like your vidoes but these points that have been raised do require answers.
My thoughts exactly, she had broken or bruised ribs, very painful, how was yhis baby not crying at all tines. I don't get it!!
Maybe she has some sort of learning difficulties maybe that’s why he prayed upon her
I agree with you, but likely there is no answer. How can Emma who wasn't there answer this? That is only something Helen can answer to. I hope she feels the guilt. As parents our 1 Job is to keep our kids safe.
@Rebecca yeah that might actually be some kind of explanation actually.
I can confirm Helen had no learning difficulties of any sort
Just to clarify, Helen was actually Lillys biological cousin, she ended the relationship initially whilst pregnant with her daughter due to his violence towards her. She knew exactly what this man was and allowed him back into her life and to end Lillys. There is alot more to this story believe me the blood lies on her hands also! Hope they both rot in hell! Hope it’s peaceful up there angel Lilly x
Seriously?!
Do you know them, and why does this not surprise me I don’t think we have the full story
no doubt, I have no problem believing that. the guy was a violent thug since adolescence. and after this relationship had other Partners and was violent towards Them. -why would it have been any different in the relationship with her? not like he stopped being violent after adolescence, and then after they split up and parted ways, with the next Partner started to be violent again. I wouldn't say she has blood on her hands exactly but she's definitely either dumb or gullible or suffers from a mental illness that makes it impossible for her to oppose other people. regards.
Who's this??
Wow so she really knew what a monster he was and let him around her children! Sickening
My little boy has severe haemophilia and before he was diagnosed he had really nasty mysterious bruising that we couldn't explain. The investigation by doctors and social services was one of the hardest things I've ever been through and it left me quite bitter. 6 years later I understand now that it was absolutely necessary and I feel fortunate that I live in an area where, at least in my experience, these things are being flagged. I haven't finished the video yet but as always, a respectful and compassionate retelling of this case, Emma x
I totally understand it making you bitter. But they did the right thing. A lot of these cases nothing was ever done. I'm glad you found out what it was tho and he's being treated for it.
The guardian was ignoring the child's suffering.
I fully agree. Lilly was in agony for at least two weeks. Not a good enough reason for the caretaker to visit a GP? Really???
I’m sorry but Helen was NOT ‘on the ball’
How often do such tragedies have to happen! How often do authorities still fail in their duty to supervise children?
It is simply beyond words how often one has to hear "we failed, we will try harder from now on"!!!!
Because the system isn't broken it was designed by those who are similar to these offenders in their mindset. It works exactly how it's meant to. Imo.
@Wakey Wakey eggs and bakey I agree totally. There are too many predators who are/have been in the top tier of society who got away with their filth and abuse for decades: weinstein, Cosby, Saville, Watkins, maxwell, epstein, r Kelly..... and those are just a few off the top of ĵ posting deepfake porn is not a crime if its not done in malice. So if its done for sexual pleasure its OK, regardless of consent. If a female was used for sexual gratification in real life without consent it would be rape. But on the Internet, the laws are not equipped to deal with it 😢
Ooh
@@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey 99999999999
😊😊😊 is
I’m certainly not saying it’s Helen’s fault per se, but how in the hell did she continue to believe Lilly’s injuries were an accident or caused by the nursery?! Surely she would’ve noticed the severity of the injuries and the fact it wouldn’t happen accidentally?!
O yes it was Helens fault that she allowed her baby to be brutalized by that bully. She would of known that her baby was suffering and how severe the injuries were. Helen ignored all of it because she didn't want to loose her bully boyfriend. Useless, selfish mother.
@@julieappleton89 "She would HAVE". and "didn't want to lose". and yes, I agree. regards.
@@wolfrahmphosphoros5808 correcting someone’s grammar is really old now. if it’s unsolicited then it’s just plain rude - please stop.
Agree, if accidents happen at a nursery there would be documented in an accident book and whoever was her guardian would be told. Helen, you've had other kids, if you had any doubts about nursery ask to see the accident book.
@@Samgraceh it is not rude. it's only rude in snowflake-culture, where people get butthurt when they're pointed out that they're wrong. this "it's rude"-approach is a perfect breeding ground for spawning illiterates, which unfortunately the world is already too full of. IT'S ABYSMAL, and with approach like yours prevailing, it can only go from bad to worse. regards.
Someone said to me other day that their kid is missing, I asked them what they look like and everything like what are they wearing and I was ready to help find their child , thank God he was in sight in the end , my soul left my body in that split second
@patycravey - is there anything wrong with you? Your comments are very odd, especially in a harrowing video like this.
@@PattyKins764 I didn't understand her comment to the person who left the original comment either. It was bit odd to her statement about someone almost missing their child.😅 Edit.. I just seen some other messages. So I get what you are meaning.
@Paty Cravey who the hell are you ..piss off sweetheart
What’s that gotta do with this
I knew someone like this. Shit himself around men yet thought he was the terminator against women who were smaller and weaker than him.
They eventually get what's coming to them.
Emma has been very kind to the so-called Guardian. I cannot fathom how someone can virtually live with a beast. She had her doubts but did NOTHING at all. She could have intervened. This case makes me so angry. Poor little Lily left in the hands of a monster. I hope it made him feel like a man! Pressing the life of a baby! And 20 years is ridiculous. I hope his life inside is awful. There is honour amongst thieves and an hierarchy in prison. Child murderers can have a bad time, I hope he does.
Another judge who let's us down by their sentencing. Mind blowing, Emma is exactly right !
The fact Helen knew something and didn't trust her instinct and didn't yeet him out the family is going to haunt her forever.
hopefully
Me too! Every. Single. Day.
This is the 1st ever time ive disagreed with Emma. I dont believe there is anyway that Helen could have not know, and even when she had her suspicions she let him back, which a decent mum would just NEVER do. You wouldnt even go to the bathroom and leave her in the same room. Lily would have shown constant fear when near him. She knew.
Learne. The truth is a weapon the innocent use, until proved guilty!
Probabley doesnt want to be accussed of 'victimn blaming'. Helen is partially to blame for neglecting to keep child safe from that monster.
As difficult as it is to sit thru this story and as sick as it makes me and im sure everyone else listening to the horrific torture he put that baby thru. Its nothing compared to the fact that poor lilly had to endure all of these assaults. I cant imagine the horror that baby went thru.
What a tragic heartbreaking story. What i dont understand is.... With the horrendous injuries that the PM had discovered were 2 weeks old... - i struggle to believe that her mum Helen wasnt aware of the escalation from bruises to bleeding in the lung, severe body manipulations. For 2 weeks this beautiful baby suffered before she was fatally attacked by this bullying bastard 😢 How did this woman not know how much pain she was in? I would know in an INSTANT if it was my daughter.
The saddest thing of all is that when she first had 'inklings' that maybe he was doing something, she should have contacted the police for a background report on him. Maybe then little Lilly would have lived.
Thank you so much Emma for all your videos. The best on youtube by a mile! ❤
I can't even imagine her pain and wanting to cuddle and someone yo love her!! What an evil man and the Helen woman needs locking up!! No way you didn't know any of this!
This really hits home to me. This could have been my wee grandsons' story. He was born a month after little Lilly under the same circumstances. I was blessed by being able to take him into my sole care, and looking at his happy little face right now makes my heart break for Lilly even more. 😢
When are mothers and fathers going to wisen up and stop putting their children in harms way. Stop deliverinf your children into the hands of these monsters.
That Helen gives me major red flags. If Lily’s breathing was restricted 2 WEEKS prior, how the hell did she not notice?. Imo she knew what was going on and let it happen. She should be in prison too.
I was hit as a child and was witness and a victim to physical and mental abuse . As a mother of two , hitting my kids is a huge NO , as they only behave due to fear ... I don't want my children to fear me ... They need better discipline not a slap .
Some things shouldn’t be recycled. Like relationships. 😬
Emma, I left the chat to cool down. I don't understand how just because there is a relative in the chat, they become the focus of concern. Yes I am empathetic, but there was only one victim here and that was Lilly. I can't change the way I think and feel or how passionate I am about children's rights to live abuse free. And it drives me nuts when I know that the child could have been saved and I have no patience for stupidity. And what she did was beyond that.
Here here glad it’s not just me saying it
He is going to be a thug to someone who cannot fight back. Let’s hope fellow inmates deliver their feelings.
Im sure they will!
🙏 I really hope so
Those type of guys fold in a real fight , man to man
I hope parents who allow this to happen to their babies carry some burden of responsibility for the assault, neglect and abuse. The parent is the literal catalyst to the catastrophe!
They put having a man before their children's welfare and safety. I love Emma's work but the one criticism I have is that she's sometimes too generous to the idiotic skanks that let these violent men into their family homes.
What a truly horrific murder of such a beautiful, delightful little girl. What makes my blood boil is that judge bizarrely deciding that the murder was not premeditated.... Was he mixing up the case with an entirely different one? Was he totally disconnected from reality? I think this whole issue of what is and isn't premeditation in the UK justice system needs to be urgently reviewed.
Im sorry but if my child had injuries and started clinging to me when man was around then noway would i off left child b left alone with him obviously injuries started when he moved in and yet left alone with him .,,
Im sure she would have noticed if it was her biological child she's just needed him to babysit, she must be a bit thick to start a relationship with him due to his history 😮
I dont believe the guardian would have split with him had she known. These kind of people believe everything says even though, hit,, ill never do it again babe, i love you... hit,,,, ill never do it again. Im sorry. Over and over.
Do not let virtual strangers near children!!! Weve seen enough of these cases. My child is my whole heart, i could never put her in any kind of possible risk. You meed to know someone for months or even years before you fully know them. So dont leave you hearts, your babies, with a stranger, sorry but especially a man!!!! My sister is a single mum, she has made the literal worst decisions with men that have negatively effected all 3 of her kids. I am fortunately married to my daughters dad and he loves her as much as me.. why not aim for that?! Its a great thing.
Lily was almost at the age when she could 'tell'. I think he committed this homicide so that she never got to the age of really communicating. Essentially, his time was nearly up. If she was given a couple more months she would have been answering the questions about her injuries.
Glad he got caught
Should be Life forever without any possibility of parole!!!!
Rest in Peace in paradise lovely little Lilly 🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
My daughter's name is Lily. She's such an amazing kid and so sensitive and loving. I cant imagine what this sweetheart went through. Not all people deserve kids,
Is helen thick? Did she not know anything bad about him? Why did she support him? Poor lilly cost her life ! I blame both of the adults 😡
There tends to be a 'code' in prisons. If it becomes common knowledge why he is in there it is very unlikely that he will live to his 20 year minimum sentence. Or at least the less virtuous of us (like myself) can hope so.
I hope the screws make it widely know throughout the prison system what he did to an innocent baby and then let the inmates meet out some prison justice. I despise bullies especially ones who victim pick especially little babies and children 🤬 if my son had all of a sudden started getting u explained bruises and began to cling to me and try and stay away from the person I'd left him with well let's just say I don't think he'd haveade it to court....
Im sorry but this has pissed me off no end! Helen was wary from the get go! I don’t AND lily was scared of that sick bastard! I don’t understand why she would trust him?! I would have waited a long while without him having any unsupervised contact with her and if her injuries stopped she would know it was him! She should feel bad for the rest of her life. I have a 13 month old and for one I would rather not even date than leave my daughter when she can’t talk with a man I’m with. For 2 if I did and she started getting injured I would be getting rid of him and I will be honest with him saying I’m excluding him to see if she still gets injured and if she doesn’t I’m sending the police round. And you best believe I’m gonna do Clare’s law. Helen if you ever read these comments I believe you didn’t let this happen but there’s no excuse in this day and age to have gave that scum bag the opportunities he had
I cannot stop thinking what that poor little girl must have went through, how she did all she was able to do to reach out for help that never came. I don't understand at all how these things continue to happen. I just can't .................... Thank you for making sure she is remembered. She was a beautiful soul that deserved so much more.
Surely she could have seen the way the child acted? Authorities are just a joke again. Why do these women believe these evil men?? Sorry your child is your priority not the evil monster!!!! Most of these idiot judges should be retired. They sit and judge and are paid a fortune, for what?? Pathetic!!!!
Thank you for covering this case Emma. ❤ totally heartbreaking 💔
✨ Rest in paradise Lilly ✨
I am just sitting here doing sowing watching the terrible story of Lilly and can't stop crying, I will never understand how anyone could do this to any child, may she rest in peace. Margaret Redmond from Ireland
This is going to be hard to get through 😢 ......❤🕯❤️ Bless her Heart
OMG three children per month, we all need to watch our vulnerable individuals.
I don't see what we can do. Obviously, if you see something, then say, but I doubt I will ever be in the position to see anything, and I expect it's the same for most of us. Unless you live in low class, low pay, council estates as that is where it mostly seems to happen.
I’m sorry but I can’t be the only one who finds it hard to believe Lilly had such severe injuries 2 weeks before her death that would have caused that much pain and struggling to breathe and Helen just didn’t notice at all. That really doesn’t sound right
That's exactly what I thought, how could Helen not have noticed!
I know I have said this multiple times.... I was not able to have children and these people just threw these poor children away. I found out when I was in my early 20s and for the most part have accepted it. But then I see these and it does make me sad. I would have loved that little girl so much. SMH
With as much pain and agony this child was in for the last 2 weeks of her life, how did no one see this?
I have a feeling this one is going to be really difficult.
I'd not heard about lily, but when I just looked it up, he was a monster through and through. It breaks my heart that this kind of thing keeps happening 💔
Waaaaaaay too much of your own input. Try concentrating on the story!
@@rosemarywilliams7604 I have literally no idea what you are on about. Shush.
One thing ill never understand is how or why anyone could put a child or children at risk. I understand everyone wants love, thats cool but why bring them around your kids. Just because you wanna lay up under someone doesnt mean they are okay for your kids. When my husband and I split up yes I talked to other people so did he but we never allowed anyone to meet our oldest daughter. We have been together for 18yrs we now have two girls 10yrs & 1yrs old, theres no way in hell id allow anyone around my kids. Trust nobody with your babies.
I have been single fir long time fear that I will misjudge a predator for a nice guy. Leaving my options for love difficult. Yet my kids welfare comes before my love life. My kids fulfil me.
Absolutely right and that is exactly the attitude I think all single parents need!! Sadly they're more interested in themselves.
@@cowoverthemoo hi. There's no harm in you going out and meeting someone. Just don't bring them around your kids until you know them really well and even then keep vigilant?
*ABSOLUTELY 100% PREMEDITATED!!!!!!* The Judge is a Moron! I wish ANYBODY that had to defend or sentence anyone that likes to harm Babies, Toddlers, Children, Women, Elderly, Animals..... I want them to *THINK OF ONE THING FOR ME* ..... *I WANT THEM TO ASK THEMSELVES* , *"What if that was my MOM? SISTER? DAUGHTER? SON? AUNT? ... For the ATTORNEY: Would you still defend them if it was your Mom? Sister? etc etc and For the JUDGE: Would you think the sentence you just handed down be good enough if it was your Mom? Sister? Grandma? Niece? etc etc .... Or are you willing to let the one that hurt your family member or friend slide by with a slap on the wrist and told "Don't do it again" ... SICKENING and DISGUSTING how that Judge can sleep at night! And the Defense Attorney as well. Sorry for the rant! It gets my blood boiling!
Women and MEN TOO. some Men get abused. regards.
What makes this case worse... to hold a sgo you need to take courses you need to pass a panel for fostering then go to court for sgo... she's had the training to spot this stuff SMH
If Helen had been in a relationship with this man and had a child with him, how was she unaware of his previous violence?
Abusers are great at that.
They control themselves. They don't always show their true self to everyone.
I had the shit beaten out of me everyday for 2.5 years. He made sure the bruises were hidden and he was known as "that amazing, sweet, caring fire fighter who volunteers on his time off to help people effected in floods, fires, accidents, if you don't have a roof over your head, his home is your home" little did they know he was almost killing someone almost every other night 😢
Abusive manipulators are amazing at faking it. They are amazing at *manipulating* those around them.
Blaming anyone but this Monster doesn't do anyone any good.
You’re an amazing storyteller and you did Lilly justice. I’m with you on the hideous man who tortured her- may he reap what he sowed
I was a tree kid too, Emma. Once I got myself up so high, my mother had to call emergency services. None of my physical injuries were caused by my parents, despite how regular and numerous they were
I taught my kids to climb trees, so they fell off the climbing frame at school. You can't wrap them in cotton wool.
Life should really mean life in our country. What that bastard did to that lift girl was so cruel cold and calculated. Sadder In my opinion should rot in prison for the rest of his life. RIP Lilly little. Princess sleep tight sweetheart ❤❤💔💔😭😭
Oh my goodness😢 Lily was such an innocent, gorgeous little girl. How could that evil excuse for a man hurt such an innocent child. It makes me sick 🤢 that people like that exist and it’s really sad that her Mom was manipulated into ignoring her internal warnings that it wasn’t Sadler causing these injuries. This whole case is heartbreaking. My heart breaks for Lily❤, but at least she’s in a better place now and can dance her heart out without worries of being harmed. ❤❤❤❤
In Australia any child who’s injured, no matter what, it’s reportable. The social worker gets involved and then they find out what happened. As a mother I feel for sympathy for the mum 😢
The more I hear about these terrible stories involving children… and how the legal system fails them, including judges with there mere sentencing. The more I am beginning to think that Vigilantes are needed. That mother needs flogging from an inch of her life- That poor baby…… (rip)
Poor dear, beautiful Lilly, you deserved to be loved and cared for, cannot believe you were left with that vile evil monster, may you rest easy Lilly...we will remember you. I hope the evil vile monster who brutally took your life, never sees the light of day and rots behind bars:( Devastasting:( So so very sad
Look at that wee sweet face, how can you want to do anything more than huggle snuggle and just love on her. I will never be able to understand it. Rest in peace baby Lilly, 💖💖
"Taser, Cattleprod..." Excellent choices for this winner of a guy.
Hidden nanny cams should be mandatory for all child caregivers. You don’t know until you find out. So find out, ostrich!
I agree!!
Emma, I would love for you to do a deep dive on Letecia Stauch after the trial is over. The verdict is supposed to be this week.
If you really want to shed light on child killers as you have so often, then take a look into the case of Brianna Lopez. I watched her case on another you tube channel and got so angry about the case and the fact that the one person who should have protected her, her mother, is already out of prison. What happened to this infant and led to her death at 5 months old should have never happened. And everyone involved should have had life sentences without parole at the very least. The channel I watched this on was The disturbing truth. The episode was Three Monsters and a baby. These monsters should not be allowed to breathe the same as us. They should have been sentenced to death in my opinion.
This child's life from day one was nothing but pure torture. This child never had any love shown towards her and her life was so brief. The ones who tortured this child as well as those who stood by and didn't do anything to prevent it in my opinion are not and should not be considered humans. They truly are monsters
Oh my god!!! I just read her story and my heart actually hurts!!! Why on earth did they do that to her??? Its like they didn't consider her alive or a real person?!!! And the families behaviour afterwards, it makes no sense whatsoever!!!
I totally agree, I saw the same case and would like to hear more detail about the monsters who did it - not that anything in their lives excuses the horrendous crime they committed. The mother deserved death or life in prison. That poor baby knew nothing but pain RIP Brianna.
Oh I watched that same video, I was almost physically sick I was so so angry! That poor baby 😢😢
Did you Ladies sign the petition to keep the mongrel in jail?
😢😢😢 Poor lil Lily didnt deserve any of it. He on the other hand deserves every demon he fights mentally, coming for him in full force
Seeing Lilly's beautiful and smiling happy lil face and knowing what she suffered..... it's just to much... absolutely horrific 😢
Oh his sentence is just as criminal as what he done ...i have no words.
Helen is guilty, too.
Oh I’m so angry!!! My heart is just totally broken for that sweet little angel. There are too many stories like this one. I don’t blame the woman who brought her into her home. But there is a little bit of blame there. How could you not figure this out. There were no other kids with Bryson their body at her pre school. Very easy to figure out. Too many of these women are blinded by their own happiness that they can’t see what is right in front of them. Until it’s too late.
Absolutely devastating, my heart goes out to Lily's nan and siblings. Lily was a gift and was failed by so many. RIP Lily ❤
To say 20 years is an insult to baby Lilly wouldn’t even begin to cover it.
It should be an automatic life with out parole sentence no messing no mercy when it comes to murdering and torturing innocent children. There was no mercy for this poor little baby. Infact what I’d like to do to him and anyone who harms children is not fit for print. Also I’d love to be fly on the wall or a spider in the corner to see how tough is when faced with actual men.
RIP Beautiful baby Lilly. X
What a absolutely gorgeous little girl. Very sick minded man who doesn't deserve to breathe!!
I hope he gets prison justice.
What a tragic and horrific case! Thank you for bringing light to this and giving a voice to Lilly.
If she’d taken the time to request a Claire’s Law check on him, she’d have had far better knowledge of his past. Ideally at the start before she let him anywhere near her children. But definitely once she had suspicions.
Yes it is, it's the domestic violence disclosure. I think the woman has to actively request any info on their partner.
Claire’s law gives anyone a right to ask the police if they believe that they or someone they know is in a relationship with an individual that could be abusive towards them. It was passed after a previous abuse case in the uk
It’s an amazing way to find out the past of someone you are welcoming into your home to keep you or your children safe. Unfortunately like your self not every one knows about this law it was passed it 2014 xx
Devastating!
@Paty Cravey Thank you! You too 😊
I have huge sympathy for the mum, but at this point, if I had no clue where these bruises were coming from and they were continuing to appear, I’d say to everyone around me listen just for now no one will be looking after my baby including nursery, my parents, my partner ANYONE. Just because you can’t confirm it’s nursery or your partner, doesn’t mean they aren’t the ones causing it. no blame on the mum, i have a 9 yo and a 11 month old, plenty of times when I take my daughter to her horse riding lesson I have a hand full of people that watch my 11 month old. If he kept getting bruises I’d cut off all child care around me, and take him with me until I got to the bottom of it.
some people are sadly too trusting 😭 rest in peace Lilly 🌹xx
Helen knew how scared Lilly was of him but she still left her with him. She should feel guilty.
Helen must have known, Lily must have been in so much pain, how can she not have known? I don’t buy this at all 😢
Such a gorgeous little girl, so heartbreaking
Wow the evils which walk around us …. RIP Lily your beautiful soul is now set free to live a life full of colours and unicorns ❤
When are they going to introduce whole life orders for monsters who kill children??? They should never be released.
Why are the partners of someone who is a foster parent not investigated before they are allowed to be alone with the child? I become a foster parent but I’m allowed to have anyone I want babysit? Some man who I barely know? Such crap.
Love your deep dives dear Emma! Kisses from Portugal 🇵🇹
This was a difficult listen, It breaks my heart to hear stories like this. Hopefully this animal will get what's coming to him in prison
My husband's parents were also questioned because he beat himself up so much. But his Mom always says how grateful she is that someone cared enough in the late 80's to ask.
Thank you Emma for giving Lilly legacy. As a survivour of horrendous child abuse myself, I count myself one of the lucky ones who made it out on the other side. I have 3 incredible, gorgeous children and I had to learn a hard and bitter lesson how NOT to treat and raise my children. As bad as my childhood was, in a weird way I'm grateful because I know that my children are being raised by my husband and myself with love, support and joy.