Genestealer Cult (NEW) Codex Review: 10th Edition Warhammer 40k
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Praise be the 4 Armed Emperor the brand new Genestealer Cults Codex for Warhammer 40K is finally here!
Join us as we break down each detachment and analyse the key changes from the index in the 10th edition of Warhammer 40K. We will look at some strong combos you can unlock through this codex and also at the end we take a look at the best datasheets and why we feel they will see play in the current meta.
Let us know in the comments section which detachment you are looking forward to running or if you are facing the forces of the Genestealer Cult then let us know which you're most fearful to face on the tabletop.
A massive thank you to Games Workshop for supplying us with the codex and new Genestealer Cults models for this video.
00:00 Intro
00:59 Key Changes
03:22 Army Rule
07:14 Host of Acenscion
21:02 Xenocreed Congregation
32:14 Biosanctic Broodsurge
45:08 Outlander Claw
52:53 Brood Brothers Auxilia
01:02:40 Datasheet Analysis
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I love the "I'm super excited for this codex it's so good" immediately followed by 20 minutes of "this is worse", "this is nerfed", "can't do this anymore".
Like the custodes codex :]
@1 hr "i think the ascension day detachment is the best"
@10min "its quite a big nerf from the index"
Thank you for the review.
Wow, it's pretty clear we got the B-team codex writers.
It's as if the design brief was "nerf anything even remotely powerful and be sure to surgically extract anything that could be identified as fun"
All I can say is that the GSC better get categorical points cuts.
@@johnj.spurgin7037 problem is, points reductions alone aren't going to be enough. There's just no teeth to it now.
@EleshScorn Yesh, the only thing with teeth I can see is the Benefictus. Unironically. S12 1-2 shot psychic is night AT is neat, but it really feels like it falls short. At least I can homebrew units to fill the niche, but comp players having trouble. Perhaps the solution is massed mining tools? They have [Anti-Vehicle 4+]
Remember when people wanted their codex to come out?
it aint bad, a bit clunky, but people will figure out new designs to balance it out
@@epiceg9464 what I meant was we used to look forward to getting a codex because it would have more options, where as now we dread getting a codex because we know it's going to remove options.
This codex has 5 detachments, but each detachment focuses on 3 units, which feels more like restricting the units you can field rather than expanding them.
@@bennettgrimm2618word its a horrible design philosophy
@@epiceg9464 its downright limp without immidiate pointscuts. Flat out wet noodle faction now.
I genuinely thought you two were the same person before this video 😂😂😂
Lmfao they don’t even look alike 😂
hahahaha that is hilarious 🤣
Twins, Basil! Twins!!
Ahaha
I've been building towards a potential vehicle detachment and at first i was very cold on outrider claw but im starting to like the idea of just having a mad max convoy moving around the the table in a group or 2 groups picking up sticky objectives while the rockgrinders full of aberrants peel off and get enemy units tied up in engagement. Could be silly fun. Also i LOVE the redeploy rule for vehicles
that does sound awesome! if you try the party bus idea let us know on one of the livestreams! haha
Vengabus is coming! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Shame I can't bring my looted vehicles in that detachment though
@@bennettgrimm2618 yeah the brood brothers changes are gonna hurt for a lot of players. Feel bad for those who invested in guard units but don't want to get stuck to one detatchment.
@@eo8240 it's more about the variety, hard to do a mad max convoy with two vehicles
Dark angels, admech and now genestealers. All my armies have been fucked royally. I mean this is fine but they reaaaaally didnt need the massive amounts of nerfs.
At least you stayed away from the banana boys and refused the allure of White Scars or Deathwatch.
I say let Steven do the party bus, and let Jake do MUSCLE BEACH
Get Stephen to do Brood Brothers 😂 but yes Jake is Magus of our hearts with Muscle Beach ❤️
It’s ironic that with each each announcement of a codex for my army I feel dread
B team codex designers, RIP
Can we fire the B-team codex writers yet? Like they've wiffed 3 for 3. Im sure 5 random players couldn't do worse.
Tyranids , Ad Mecha, DA, Custodes and GSC they broke the 3 strikes and you are out a long time ago.
Well, looks like I’m 3 for 3 on B team codexes. This is going to be quite the “fun” edition.
Well at least you can rorate the "fun" imagine some with just 2000pts of unfun or legends army.
I'm so excited! I just started 40k My combat patrol hasnt even arrived yet! FOR THE STAR GODS!
(yes i got the out of print one)
Well I'm glad he is excited.
Well time for gsc to go on the shelf until 11 edition
Damn you’re missing out then
@@RotnGrot Missing out on what? Them nerfing literally everything from the index?
Lol give it 30min. and the points will fall through the floor and in another 30min. they'll realize no one has a table to fit that many models and in a month or 5 everything will be back where it was
@@bennettgrimm2618 admexh and tyranids
@@dragozfirzable true, but those were never good and games workshop has clearly given up on them
slightly nurfed you say.... the codex is DOA
So if someone bought 900-1000pts of broodbrothers , now they dont have a gsc army ?
Correct unless they play onslaught and a particular detachment
Love Jordan, fantastic guy! Fun and full of energy 🎉
Michaels a great dude when he can relax and enjoy the process.
But seriously, someone give Stephen (there's your bloody H) a chill pill. He's a control freak with no chill. Im sure he's good at the game, but he sounds like an acchole.
Stephen sounds like a middle manager with a power complex. Again, I'm sure he's good at what he does however that is no excuse for not treating people with respect.
Stoic Jake!
😂😂😂
No no no
I am pretty upset that our mid-tier index is now just...nerfed for no reason. Why did GW hurt us? The combat patrol that made this army affordable is gone, everything is genuinely worse, the detachments are bad and worse than the index.
At this point GSC sales are gonna drop, GW is gonna cancel the army because they're like "No one wants to buy them".
Welp, i already had to think ahead and do math eqautions and solve the cure to cancer to even do 1 turn with my models, now im going to have to do that all again but this time with weaker models...doesnt help that my gf uses high T orks, and now that aberrants are weakerish my frontline melee force is going to get shreded smh, i wont give up on my boys the day of ascension has to happen! Hopefully EC come out soon tho lol
Remember simplified, not simple
Now read these three paragraphs and try and figure out whether or not you are in the one specific circumstance where you get a whooping +1 to hit
Watched around 6 mins.. nothing but nerfs to GSC so far... great..
Yeah, so the points of the units can finally go down. We are supposed to be a Horde, not twice the points per model than IG
@@lucastb1775 100% Cant wait to run horde melee
Yeah. We got admeched
@@lucastb1775 I feel like the "horde" aspect was covered by the respawning units. The difference is that it was a horde the opponent can't see, which makes it more of a scary guerilla force. Made it more unique than just 100 models standing there.
@@dalemallon2924 that is still the ability, and with more units there will be more consistent respawning. The coinflip felt bad if it was for a few expensive units, now there will be lots of coinflips for cheaper ones, that will feel a lot better I believe
Index was soooo much better 😢
I don't care who gets to run it, but a maxed out party bus meme list should be done as quickly as possible
Look on the bright side my fellow cultists: maybe the Astra Militarum codex will be awesome!
Steve Party Bus vs Jake Muscle Beach
its interesting watching all the various channels go through this book, so far every single major channel has had a completely different opinion as to which detachment was best.
Most small channels really can't afford to be honest in the review, they're too afraid to loose the GW partnership 😅 ...
@@bobbywatson2737 what’s that got to do with my comment…?
This codex is the worst thing that has happened to the Gensteeler Cult faction since its release in the game! It's amazing how an interesting and successful faction can undeservedly receive such a nerf...
Damn we got nerfed hard 🤦🏻♂️ this update makes me sad
Thank´s for the great review ! I think the codex is really thematic and flavourfull ... which is good... no detachment except the Xenobrood detach is a hard miss in my opinion. I´m personally looking forward to min / max the possibilities of the Host of Ascension detachment first .. followed by muscel beach and then (when i have the models) also the Broodbrother detachment. Yeah it may not be the most competitive codex out there .. but i like the challenge to win tournament games with niche armies / detachments 😎!Also this codex gives plenty of opportunities for hobbying and having fun with the cult !
This is the most level-headed review of this codex I've seen. Thank you for that, Vanguard! *Jake party bus.
Anyone upset with the direction of GSC I am more than willing to accept donations of your stuff …
Buy it. That's the real proof.
@@lotharlights I already have battleforce box on order and looking to see if I can get my hands on the limited edition codex on release date but still happy to rehome anything that is unloved now … also Cadians being converted/painted to do Brood Brothers 😉 your move 😂
@@Dante_paints Do you play or primarily paint?
@@lotharlights both, I have been relatively uninterested in 10e until more recently as I have issues with the way GW has made things Legends (half a WE army overnight that lasted 6 months in 9e) and I’m already making predictions over what will be stealth Legended for Eldar. Not an Ork player but most peeved about what happened to them. I’ve been mainly HH since 2.0 dropped but played Marines and Knights (both flavours) in 9e
@@Dante_paints How do you intend to destroy vehicles and aircraft with your GSC?
I feel like y'all who are doom saying the codex don't know what fun is
Is kitbashing fun or not fun to you?
Why do you lie.... stop being GW toadies????
We have been critical of the changes and said that a lot of these detachments are not competitive and some big hits to the faction. We do feel there is play in 2 detachments and some strong elements are still in this book. Do we think this is top table-level competitive, no. But, it does not mean this book is bad in our opinion.
@@VanguardTactics hipocrits
@@VanguardTactics Sounds like an army that can perform as a B- army on good match-ups, but closer to a C- or even D- against a good chunk of other armies. That's just my opinion though, as I think they went overboard with half of the changes.
They basically said the second detachment, xenowhatever comgregation, was terrible. Hardly being toadies.
@@KelstenGamingUK you can’t please some people. Unless we shout doom and gloom.
Will it reach the top tables? Probably not. Is this going to be an absolute blast for the 99% of players who have fun at a casual level? Absolutely. The detachment rules are a bit lacking but the strats, enhancements, and unit synergies make up for it. Very reminiscent of the Guerilla warfare playstyle from older codexes. It’s a good toolbox that will reward players that put in the effort.
I get where you're coming from, and the detachments do appear to have fun rules, but a lot of the "hidden guerrilla" force identity is disappearing the more difficult it is to return units, and the less punch they have when they do spring up.
thx for doing all codex reviews except custodes. really easy to not follow you.
If we would have done a review, what do you think you would have learned from it? It was leaked weeks before and would you have left us a nice comment, subscribed? We didn’t see the point in spending hours and resources to make a video that would be just slammed and was already leaked. Every single review costs a significant amount to make and when you only have a limited resource or time and money you have to prioritise.
@@VanguardTactics i would have cared to hear your opinion and whats possible. other codicies also got leaked yet you covered them. i will just go to a competitive 40k channel that covers it all, you only lose here.
They’ve got almost 70,000 subscribers. They couldn’t give a shit if you never watched one of their videos again.
@@redrum923ohhh nooooo. Please don’t goooooo. Somebody stop him…
moron