Just finished building my new PC and have to say a massive thanks for all your videos and tips, I definitely wouldn’t have ended up with anything close to what I’ve got now without your help! Plus the content is really enjoyable so I’m going to stay subbed and keep watching despite having nothing left to build 🤙🏻 Thanks Jason!
Congrats on your new rig! So glad we could help with it. Thank you for the great feedback it means a lot to us and I hope you keep enjoying the videos!
@@auntiepha8343 Oops! Intel i5 11400 Gigabyte B560m Aorus Pro AX (got it cheap) Sapphire Pulse Radeon 6600XT Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 16GB 3200 CL16 WD 1TB m.2 NVMe 120GB Sandisk Deluxe (from an old build) 1TB Toshiba HDD (from an old build) Veetroo V5 air cooler EVGA BQ 750W (overkill but got it cheap) Lian Li Lancool 205m Random pack of RGB case fans 😅 Nothing too flashy but my old computer was running a 6400 and a GTX 1050 non-TI so a massive upgrade!
@@Artm-jr3di My bad 😅 Intel i5 11400 Gigabyte B560m Aorus Pro AX (got it cheap) Sapphire Pulse Radeon 6600XT Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 16GB 3200 CL16 WD 1TB m.2 NVMe 120GB Sandisk Deluxe (from an old build) 1TB Toshiba HDD (from an old build) Veetroo V5 air cooler EVGA BQ 750W (overkill but got it cheap) Lian Li Lancool 205m Random pack of RGB case fans 😅 Nothing too flashy but my old computer was running a 6400 and a GTX 1050 non-TI so a massive upgrade!
I took your advice and built the I5 12400F + RTX 3070 combo . That is exactly what I needed for 1440p gaming experience . I can get more than 300 fps in ultimate graphic setting in some AAA games . 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
I researched many days before I finally built my PC 2 weeks ago. I use 12400, and this video is totally on point. I ended using most of the components recommended in this video 😀 Good job!
I was looking at the Intel 12400 to build an upgraded system as my workhorse of 8 years died on me. I found this video and this is incredibly informational and well put together, I haven't seen your videos before but definitely subscribing now.
The i5 12400 is simply an incredible deal. I recommend it to everyone building a midrange build. It’s a no brainer. On the lower end I always recommend the 12100. I don’t recommend AMD simply due to the all the issues AMD platforms have given me over the years. Including AM4.
"I don’t recommend AMD simply due to the all the issues AMD platforms have given me over the years. Including AM4." Huh? AMD's AM4 has been the most stable and long-lived platform I've ever used, and I've been using PCs since my first AMD 386/40MHz back in 1991. This sounds more like an paid Intel comment than an honest report of user experience.
@@Moshe_Dayan44 Maybe, his experienced with AMD wasn't good and that's okay, My first PC (i3-10 MSI H410) and 2nd PC (i3-12 Asus B660) GTX1650, gotta be honest, the first one gave me a TERRIBLE experience with ~2 years BSOD every few days/hours. ps: *I tried everything :v* I've thought about giving AMD a try since but in my place every good AMD part costs 10-20% more than Intel + out of stock, even pre-built. So for the sake of my wallet and peace of mind, my 2nd PC is Intel, and it works great this time, amazingly tbh.
I am planning on upgrading my i5-7400 and this review really sold me on t 12400 but I might get the 12400f because its cheaper. I've been watching a lot of your videos lately and has really helped me decide on what cpu I should get
4:33 You say the RTX 3060 is a more reasonable buy for an i5 12400 build, but I respectfully disagree. If you go with a 3070 or 3080, it's assumed you will be gaming at 1440p or even 4k, where the GPU matters a lot more than the CPU. Benchmarks show that the i5 12400 will not bottleneck a 3080 at those resolutions. So, for a dedicated gaming PC, my advice would be to just stick to an i5, save money, and buy yourself the biggest graphics card your budget allows.
I always love watching your videos(even I built mine awhile ago). Ive been in your channel since you had 10k and youre already at 128k, this is not surprising with the quality and the knowledge you share with all of us gamers.
Speaking of budget builds, your monitors list was very helpful.. Got an gigabyte m27q for $292 before taxes. Best buy had open box excellent available. $329 normally. I'm very pleased with it so far.
@@PCBuilderChannel sir what do you think about asus h610m a? maybe it's features are very less but... are it's vrms better than b660m ds3h? like both are same price, but i just feel like b660m ds3h is lowest price b660 mobos so it has features but vrms maybe weak but asus h610m a is high price h610 mobos, so its vrms maybe better than b660 ds3h
Chief Cat! Awesome video! It really makes the difference in the intel sku's make easier to understand. Super stoked to know that we're finally being able to buy new GPU's again too!
I could have really used this 2 weeks ago when i started buy my parts. but i'm actually building my 1st pc today, so its still nice to see this and be able to compare this to what i bought
The Problem with the higher Memory frequency has almost no effect to the Performance increase is due to the fact the timings are higher on Memory with higher frequency - in this case. If you would have used a Memory with higher than 3600 MT/s (3600 MHZ = 2x1800 MHz), the timings would get relatively lower on the Memory although the CPU does not support that high frequency. In this case the Memory would reduce it´s supported frequency to the highest the CPU provides, the timings would get lower as well, so the performance increase should be significantly higher. (usually the mainboard always provides much higher memory-frequencies than the CPU for it´s Generation/Socket). Not to mention the much faster, but also expensive DDR5 (maybe not in future)...-> Much higher Memory Frequency -> lower Memory timings -> higher FPS It´s also to mention if you have only one or up to six memory modules and if the memory has one or two ranks, this would boost the FPS as well a bit, if there were more.
I also found that when comparing more premium MB's prices for 5600x and 12400 the total cost was almost the same, I went with Intel this time, because the platform is newer, and the b660 board I got had 2,5gbe, which was notably lacking on the b550 offerings
Although I just got a 2.5Gbps modem (for getting 1+Gbps speed), there's a serious lack of 2.5Gbps routers at the moment. You can find some switches, but I can't find any decent Routers with multiple 2.5Gbps (for both input from modem, and output to LAN)
@@DerSchaddan I plan on getting an ASUS AX-86U that you can do that with, but its only one port. If I want to have the modem input 2.5gbps its locked to that port, with no way of distributing the 2.5Gbps out via ethernet. Might have to get the ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AX6000. It's one of the only ones
Great work on the 12400. This and 5600X are probably the most popular gaming PC for most people. It will be great if there is a link to show how to remove the power limit for 12400. In addition, what will be the performance impact if the users do remove the power limit for the 12400. Due to the crazy pricing on the GPU. Unfortunately most of us have to limit our budget on the CPU/MB and other components.
Thanks!!! Planning on doing a "how to set up your pc after build" kind of video where I'll show how to do this. Unfortunately each bios (gigabyte, asus, asrock, msi) are different for this.
Awesome detailed advice! Don't understand the part about the need for 12600K to pair with 3080 for 4K gaming though. Why? Coz often being GPU bound, isn't the 12400F good enough? I still believe in the saying that @4K gaming, CPU don't really matter.
I was wondering about this as well, I was about to go for the 12400F + 3080 combo too. I really wish he would've elaborated more on the reasons why this is supposedly a bad idea, since his videos are otherwise so in-depth.
For cooling, you gotta start recommending the Gammaxx 400. It comes with mounting hardware for just about every relevant CPU socket and the brackets for adding a second fan and the cooling is fantastic. All for under $20 and if you get the blue version they're only $15. I'm using it (with a cheap (3pack for $10), no name second fan added to make a push pull configuration) to overclock my 5700G iGPU to 2400MHz at 1.3volts and temps still stay in the 40s while playing Cyberpunk.
Yes that is one I often recommend! Some people don't like the LED which cannot be turned off, so I typically mention the ID Cooling one which is a couple of dollars more.
Bro i m buying a 12600kf and for that will deepcool gammax be enough?? Consider normal room temperature is around 35 and no ac coz in my room there's AC but no space for computer desk so will setup my computer in hall..and if deepcool gammax is enough then which one should i buy gammax 400 v2 or gammax 400 pro..can afford both of these ,so pls tell which one would be nest for cooling
@@AyushGarg82 the Gammaxx 400 is basically a Hyper 212 EVO clone so your 12600f should be fine especially since it can't overclock. As for the V2 or the Pro, I'd say if you happen to have an extra 1200mm fan I'd get the V2 (that's the route I took but I lucked put and was given a fan that cost about as much as the Gammaxx itself) but if not and there's room in your budget for it, the second fan for the Pro model will definitely help. One thing you need to do is make sure you can fit the Gammaxx in your case. If you're using PCpartpicker and already have the case you want selected, the Gammaxx (and other coolers that won't fit) won't be listed when you go to select a CPU cooler and same thing if you pick your cooler first.
@@Stonerman135 bro m choosing antec df600 flux (coz i love its looks) and gammax 400 v2 is being shown in the pc part picker but the gammax 400 pro is not available with any case so i think there's some problem in the website..can u pls check the cabinet and tell whether it will support gammax 400 pro? motherboard i will be buying is msi pro b660m a wifi.....And one more thing if possible can u give your social media I'd where i can contact u? I have some doubts in other pc parts as well
With the I5 12400 I'd start with a better upgrade path on the motherboard and spend more on a full ATX Z690 board in the $200 price range compared to a upper end B660M at the $170 range. My choice would be the Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4.
**NOTES: 1) I refer to the ASUS TUF B660M-Plus as having upgraded audio. Sadly it does not. Go for the MSI Mortar, Tomahawk, or Aorus B660M Pro instead. 2) The stock cooler has a reflective ring, not an LED ring light** What i5 12400 Build are you looking to do? Or are you considering Ryzen 5600X, i7 12700, or something else?
I just purchased AVGPC Quiet Series Gaming PC Intel Core i5 6 Core 12400F up to 4.40 GHz, 16GB DDR4, GeForce GTX 1660. Your videos helped me decide on what pc to buy. Thank you. I do multiple things such as streaming, editing and rendering as well as VR gaming. Just subscribed.
just returned home, with my new PC Build with i5 12400f and RTX 3060, with CL16 3600MHz 16(8*2)GB RAM , corsair 650w 80+bronze psu & monitor Gigabyte G27F, after lot of much much valuable lessons and inputs from your videos. Looking forward to set it up tomorrow morning & enjoy the weekend ahead and days ahead. Was intending to go with 5600x but the price wasn't fitting well with the budget and shooting stars with taxes applied here in Eastern India. So, team blue was the choice, I had to take. I was a bit skeptical about missing out on 3060Ti but the price again was a thing of an issue...hope my system works well for my needs. How's my build looking ?? :) Thanks yet again Jason!
Hi Jason. Just finished the Intel Core i5-12400F gaming desktop computer build yesterday using the links in your video description. Thanks for this great and informative video.
Like your build, you packed a lot of value into that video! Love how you show where you can get (or is some cases, not get) extra performance for more money.
If you're on a budget I recommend sticking with the stock cooler and spending that extra $30 or so that you would've spent on the cooler on getting better peripherals or ram or a slightly better gpu or whatever then you can get a cooler later on
A genuine sincere thanks for this nice informative video from a 13 year long pc gamer and builder, who, thinks of themselves as tech savvy compared to the general population, but was a bit "out of the loop" with cutting edge stuff. After dealing with a very frustrating past few months dealing with either a failing 3700x couple year old ryzen and/or the apparently widespread Ryzen "fTPM" issue, I said screw it and ordered a 12500 setup. Was only $10 more than the 12400. I ordered the black 120mm ID cooling tower cooler per your suggestion. I'm pairing it with 32gb 3600 ram, a 2tb Sk Hynix p41 gen4 7000mb nvme(went a bit overboard on this drive, but, I've kept my Samsung regular 840 for nearly 10 years, I'm in it with this nvme for the long haul), and reusing my existing 3070. Will make a quite potent 1440p high refresh rate gaming pc. Unfortunately, myself and some others still suffer from the stuttering and lagging with the fTPM issue even after venders released a bios update in May, a few months after AMD acknowledged the problem. When myself and others posted about still suffering from the fTPM problems, we were essentially met with crickets and tumbleweeds basically being left out to dry and abandoned. Idk if they expected us to just sit here and suffer, but, there is definitely something funky with the CPU after multiple new motherboards and new OS installs tried, no virus, temps ok, drives checked out ok, still the same problem when trying my old gpu too. I was just truly stumped and it was getting depressing so I threw in the towel on that build and ordered the 12th gen i5 which isn't affected by the ftpm stuff like ryzens are to hopefully ride out the rest of this console gen trouble free on w10, I'm waiting a few more years on win11 lol. I genuinely tried for a long time and did everything I could do. This will be my first intel since the good old 2600k. I didn't end up streaming like I thought I would so the extra threads on the ryzen 7 didn't benefit me much. Encoding can be offloaded to the GPU these days anyway. I sure do miss the good old days on windows 7 with stone cold reliable ivy bridge/sandy bridge with set it and forget it 1600mhz ram or even 1333. Great find on the 120mm ID cooler, I kinda grimaced when I saw how much the old venerable Hyper 212 shot up in price these days. I took a "gamble" on an up and coming tower cooler many years ago on a tinkerer build for fun with the very well regarded Cryorig h7 and it cooled an OC'd 8320E very well. Very intrigued to try out the ID cooler. I would have gotten that cheap $19.99 Deepcool Gammax v2 but didn't want to have to wait for them to send me the intel 1700 socket adapter...the ID cooler said it was already compatible.
Great video! Thank you so much for making it! I JUST purchased this CPU 2 days ago and I'm glad to see that my choices for this first build of mine are good. This will be a learning experience but I can do it.
@@PCBuilderChannel Yo can i really ask, im gonna upgrade PC. Gonna buy Intel I5 12400 but i play game more instead than doing some task or office stuff but i dont have any VGA/GPU on my pc. And im thinking which one the best between 12400 vs 5600G. But many friends told me that 12400 WITHOUT VGA is better than 5600G.You think 12400 can handle any games like for example Valorant or Apex?
Good info. In my case it was after the fact since I already recently (March '23) built a PC using the 12400F with an ASUS Prime H670 Plus D4 and a 3060 Ti, but in watching this video it sounds like I did ok. I waited an extra year for prices and availability to improve and was able to come in at around $900 including a bump up on the tower and 750W PSU, but re-using my existing 1 and 2 TB SSD's with the OS from my old PC already installed. I'm very happy with the new build so far. My old PC (which still works, btw) is from 2009 with upgrades over the years on everything but the mobo and processor. Of course the new one is light years better.
Great video. I have a question. I want to pair I5-12400f with DDR5 motherboard and kingston ddr5 16-32gb of ram. Is this smart move, or should I stick with DDR4? I've read that this i5 cpu supports up to 4800Mhz if ram. Any advice?
Great video Jason. After binge watching your videos i recently bought 12400F and amd 6600 gpu combination pc. It comes with asus prime h610m-K motherboard. It was a pre build and didn't have option to change motherboard to H660M unfortunately. It was a great price at the time i bought so i had to buy it :) I wonder if i can still increase the power limiter from that motherboard thought?
I've been watching and comparing gpu and components for the last year. i resurrected an i7-860 with more memory, a ssd and a gtx 770. at 5760x1080 I'm still playing couple year old games (@3840x760) lol. this video helped a lot and whilst not the most powerful, i think the upgrade will be significantly noticeable.
I have i5 12600 non K with GB B660 Aorus Master DDR4. The Corsair 3200 RAM unable to boot at XMP (I am sure it is the RAM's problem). AT RAM 3000Mhz, the PC is running well and cooler than 5600X.
Loved the video, this time around i'm considering building either with a 12400F to may upgrade on 13th gen or go straight with a 12700F idk. And probably will wait next gen gpus cause my laptop is 3060. Either way i don't think we will see msrp before the end of summer but by this time RTX 4000 and RX 7000 will be not far away so there's also that point.
my current build is a i5 12400f, 3060ti fe, msi pro b660m-a and corsair vengeance lpx 16gb 3200mhz cl16. as a cpu cooler using the artic freezer i35 argb.
Hello jason, how to update my gigabyte b660m bios and turning off power limits cause i have i5 12400, also how to change ram speed cause my desktop builder didnt change my ram speed to 3200 mhz. the task manager only says i have 2400 mhz
Hey, Jason. I have a question. Is the MSI MAG B660M Mortar DDR4 still a good choice for an i5 12400F build? PCpartpicker says it's incompatible when compared to some other boards which are much more expensive. The MSI B660M Mortar is currently on sale for only $128, that's why I'm wondering.
You are by far the best PC building channel out there, no nonsense and always keeps me gripped. Recently built my first build successfully based fully on parts you have suggested. So thankful for your work and information 💪💪
Just built an i5-12400 on an Asus z690-plus wifi d4, 32GB ddr4 3200 ram, 1tb M.2 and 4tb hard drive. All of it, tries, to come together with a RX 6500XT GPU. The GPU is temporary, hopefully. Everything is in a NZXT H510 case. This build is a lot better than what I've been running for a few years (i7-6700k). Going to be building another one, for my son, soon. We are going to go with the i5-12400K instead.
Awesome video! Due to the current GPU price drops, I’ve decided to begin building my first PC, it’s an i5-11600k RTX 3060 build, I’ve began buying my parts and will probably wait and hope for the GPUs to drop a bit more ( the GPU will probably be the last part I buy), needless to say I’m very excited. To better GPU prices!
@@PCBuilderChannel Already copped the mobo and cpu. Will be going the 6700xt route since I got a good deal. Thanks for the info! Binged watching ur videos lol.
@@PCBuilderChannel Not with this cpu, but with the absolute best cpu from Intel and/or amd. Its best pairing motherboard, and the best gpu. Unlimited budget. For a creator or someone who just wants the best of the best.
Never before seen someone go in depth about every single part of the video showing what’s the best for us, amazing video dude. Keep up the good work!
So glad it was helpful!!
Yeah, I’m impressed when he even went through the audio specs on the motherboard! 9:59
Love the budget focused stuff, Jason!! Long time fan of the channel. Keep up the great work!
Hi Funkadelic! I remember you of course! Thanks for sticking with us and glad you are enjoying the videos
Just finished building my new PC and have to say a massive thanks for all your videos and tips, I definitely wouldn’t have ended up with anything close to what I’ve got now without your help! Plus the content is really enjoyable so I’m going to stay subbed and keep watching despite having nothing left to build 🤙🏻
Thanks Jason!
Congrats on your new rig! So glad we could help with it. Thank you for the great feedback it means a lot to us and I hope you keep enjoying the videos!
Bro.... You can't post you built a new PC and not list your specs. If you don't post your system specs on PC Builder then it didn't happen.😀
Post specs...
@@auntiepha8343 Oops!
Intel i5 11400
Gigabyte B560m Aorus Pro AX (got it cheap)
Sapphire Pulse Radeon 6600XT
Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 16GB 3200 CL16
WD 1TB m.2 NVMe
120GB Sandisk Deluxe (from an old build)
1TB Toshiba HDD (from an old build)
Veetroo V5 air cooler
EVGA BQ 750W (overkill but got it cheap)
Lian Li Lancool 205m
Random pack of RGB case fans 😅
Nothing too flashy but my old computer was running a 6400 and a GTX 1050 non-TI so a massive upgrade!
@@Artm-jr3di My bad 😅
Intel i5 11400
Gigabyte B560m Aorus Pro AX (got it cheap)
Sapphire Pulse Radeon 6600XT
Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB 16GB 3200 CL16
WD 1TB m.2 NVMe
120GB Sandisk Deluxe (from an old build)
1TB Toshiba HDD (from an old build)
Veetroo V5 air cooler
EVGA BQ 750W (overkill but got it cheap)
Lian Li Lancool 205m
Random pack of RGB case fans 😅
Nothing too flashy but my old computer was running a 6400 and a GTX 1050 non-TI so a massive upgrade!
I took your advice and built the I5 12400F + RTX 3070 combo . That is exactly what I needed for 1440p gaming experience . I can get more than 300 fps in ultimate graphic setting in some AAA games .
😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
That's awesome! Congrats on your build and so glad we could help. Thanks for letting us know!
I researched many days before I finally built my PC 2 weeks ago. I use 12400, and this video is totally on point. I ended using most of the components recommended in this video 😀 Good job!
So glad we could help! Congrats on your new PC!
If you used the graphics card and mother board, what power supply did you use? I’m not sure if I can use a 750w what this or not
I was looking at the Intel 12400 to build an upgraded system as my workhorse of 8 years died on me. I found this video and this is incredibly informational and well put together, I haven't seen your videos before but definitely subscribing now.
Thank you for the sub! Welcome to the channel
What's your specs build with 12400? I wanna know. Thank you
The i5 12400 is simply an incredible deal. I recommend it to everyone building a midrange build. It’s a no brainer. On the lower end I always recommend the 12100. I don’t recommend AMD simply due to the all the issues AMD platforms have given me over the years. Including AM4.
Especially when you get a b660 bored with external clock generator and run it at 5.0ghz+
I just got a MAINGEAR prebuilt with an i5 12400 a b660 board a 3060ti 16g of 3600 ram for 1199$ it’s my first pc so I hope I got an ok deal
"I don’t recommend AMD simply due to the all the issues AMD platforms have given me over the years. Including AM4." Huh? AMD's AM4 has been the most stable and long-lived platform I've ever used, and I've been using PCs since my first AMD 386/40MHz back in 1991. This sounds more like an paid Intel comment than an honest report of user experience.
Should I be worried if I bought g-skill 32gb 2x16 rip jaws V series 3200mhz cl16 ddr4 ram? Should I buy the smaller ram?
@@Moshe_Dayan44 Maybe, his experienced with AMD wasn't good and that's okay, My first PC (i3-10 MSI H410) and 2nd PC (i3-12 Asus B660) GTX1650, gotta be honest, the first one gave me a TERRIBLE experience with ~2 years BSOD every few days/hours. ps: *I tried everything :v*
I've thought about giving AMD a try since but in my place every good AMD part costs 10-20% more than Intel + out of stock, even pre-built. So for the sake of my wallet and peace of mind, my 2nd PC is Intel, and it works great this time, amazingly tbh.
I am planning on upgrading my i5-7400 and this review really sold me on t 12400 but I might get the 12400f because its cheaper. I've been watching a lot of your videos lately and has really helped me decide on what cpu I should get
Do it! I came from an i5 7500, I had no idea how much the cpu was bottlenecking my gpu..
So glad we could help! Best of luck on your build. Its a great CPU
4:33 You say the RTX 3060 is a more reasonable buy for an i5 12400 build, but I respectfully disagree. If you go with a 3070 or 3080, it's assumed you will be gaming at 1440p or even 4k, where the GPU matters a lot more than the CPU. Benchmarks show that the i5 12400 will not bottleneck a 3080 at those resolutions. So, for a dedicated gaming PC, my advice would be to just stick to an i5, save money, and buy yourself the biggest graphics card your budget allows.
I always love watching your videos(even I built mine awhile ago). Ive been in your channel since you had 10k and youre already at 128k, this is not surprising with the quality and the knowledge you share with all of us gamers.
Thank you so much for being with us for so long! It means a ton and we are really glad you still enjoy
Speaking of budget builds, your monitors list was very helpful.. Got an gigabyte m27q for $292 before taxes. Best buy had open box excellent available. $329 normally. I'm very pleased with it so far.
Awesome! Great panel!
my mannn
I was waiting for u to make 12400 build video lets goo
Awesome! Hope you enjoy!
@@PCBuilderChannel sir what do you think about asus h610m a?
maybe it's features are very less but...
are it's vrms better than b660m ds3h?
like both are same price, but
i just feel like b660m ds3h is lowest price b660 mobos so it has features but vrms maybe weak
but asus h610m a is high price h610 mobos, so its vrms maybe better than b660 ds3h
@@PCBuilderChannel or do I take Gigabyte B660m DS3H or Msi B660m pro-E?
Love your videos, always so informative and I love your energy
Thanks for the feedback! It means a lot to us!
This is the build I was trying to make you just made my life easier
So glad we can help! Best of luck with your build and links for our recommendations are below
Chief Cat! Awesome video! It really makes the difference in the intel sku's make easier to understand. Super stoked to know that we're finally being able to buy new GPU's again too!
Thanks again Zach!!!
I could have really used this 2 weeks ago when i started buy my parts. but i'm actually building my 1st pc today, so its still nice to see this and be able to compare this to what i bought
Best of luck with your build! Let us know how it goes on twitter @pcbuilderjason if you like
The Problem with the higher Memory frequency has almost no effect to the Performance increase is due to the fact the timings are higher on Memory with higher frequency - in this case. If you would have used a Memory with higher than 3600 MT/s (3600 MHZ = 2x1800 MHz), the timings would get relatively lower on the Memory although the CPU does not support that high frequency. In this case the Memory would reduce it´s supported frequency to the highest the CPU provides, the timings would get lower as well, so the performance increase should be significantly higher. (usually the mainboard always provides much higher memory-frequencies than the CPU for it´s Generation/Socket). Not to mention the much faster, but also expensive DDR5 (maybe not in future)...-> Much higher Memory Frequency -> lower Memory timings -> higher FPS
It´s also to mention if you have only one or up to six memory modules and if the memory has one or two ranks, this would boost the FPS as well a bit, if there were more.
I also found that when comparing more premium MB's prices for 5600x and 12400 the total cost was almost the same, I went with Intel this time, because the platform is newer, and the b660 board I got had 2,5gbe, which was notably lacking on the b550 offerings
Although I just got a 2.5Gbps modem (for getting 1+Gbps speed), there's a serious lack of 2.5Gbps routers at the moment. You can find some switches, but I can't find any decent Routers with multiple 2.5Gbps (for both input from modem, and output to LAN)
@@Kermeous I got one were you can reconfigure the WAN port to 2,5gbe but it’s only available in Germany
@@DerSchaddan I plan on getting an ASUS AX-86U that you can do that with, but its only one port. If I want to have the modem input 2.5gbps its locked to that port, with no way of distributing the 2.5Gbps out via ethernet.
Might have to get the ASUS ROG Rapture GT-AX6000. It's one of the only ones
Another great video Jason
Thanks so much! Glad you are enjoying!
Great timing to see this video
Great work on the 12400. This and 5600X are probably the most popular gaming PC for most people. It will be great if there is a link to show how to remove the power limit for 12400. In addition, what will be the performance impact if the users do remove the power limit for the 12400.
Due to the crazy pricing on the GPU. Unfortunately most of us have to limit our budget on the CPU/MB and other components.
Thanks!!! Planning on doing a "how to set up your pc after build" kind of video where I'll show how to do this. Unfortunately each bios (gigabyte, asus, asrock, msi) are different for this.
Awesome detailed advice!
Don't understand the part about the need for 12600K to pair with 3080 for 4K gaming though. Why? Coz often being GPU bound, isn't the 12400F good enough? I still believe in the saying that @4K gaming, CPU don't really matter.
I was wondering about this as well, I was about to go for the 12400F + 3080 combo too. I really wish he would've elaborated more on the reasons why this is supposedly a bad idea, since his videos are otherwise so in-depth.
Great video! Can't wait for this year's surprises
Thanks for watching! Me too!
bro you just saved like 1000 peoples time
Hope it's helpful! (:
For cooling, you gotta start recommending the Gammaxx 400. It comes with mounting hardware for just about every relevant CPU socket and the brackets for adding a second fan and the cooling is fantastic. All for under $20 and if you get the blue version they're only $15. I'm using it (with a cheap (3pack for $10), no name second fan added to make a push pull configuration) to overclock my 5700G iGPU to 2400MHz at 1.3volts and temps still stay in the 40s while playing Cyberpunk.
Yes that is one I often recommend! Some people don't like the LED which cannot be turned off, so I typically mention the ID Cooling one which is a couple of dollars more.
Bro i m buying a 12600kf and for that will deepcool gammax be enough?? Consider normal room temperature is around 35 and no ac coz in my room there's AC but no space for computer desk so will setup my computer in hall..and if deepcool gammax is enough then which one should i buy gammax 400 v2 or gammax 400 pro..can afford both of these ,so pls tell which one would be nest for cooling
@@AyushGarg82 the Gammaxx 400 is basically a Hyper 212 EVO clone so your 12600f should be fine especially since it can't overclock. As for the V2 or the Pro, I'd say if you happen to have an extra 1200mm fan I'd get the V2 (that's the route I took but I lucked put and was given a fan that cost about as much as the Gammaxx itself) but if not and there's room in your budget for it, the second fan for the Pro model will definitely help.
One thing you need to do is make sure you can fit the Gammaxx in your case. If you're using PCpartpicker and already have the case you want selected, the Gammaxx (and other coolers that won't fit) won't be listed when you go to select a CPU cooler and same thing if you pick your cooler first.
@@Stonerman135 bro m choosing antec df600 flux (coz i love its looks) and gammax 400 v2 is being shown in the pc part picker but the gammax 400 pro is not available with any case so i think there's some problem in the website..can u pls check the cabinet and tell whether it will support gammax 400 pro? motherboard i will be buying is msi pro b660m a wifi.....And one more thing if possible can u give your social media I'd where i can contact u? I have some doubts in other pc parts as well
My 6 year old 400 w/ 2 fans in push pull still cools my 6600k (4.5ghz) to 60c max. Wonder how it holds up to newer CPU that pulls more power.
With the I5 12400 I'd start with a better upgrade path on the motherboard and spend more on a full ATX Z690 board in the $200 price range compared to a upper end B660M at the $170 range. My choice would be the Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4.
Agree with this too but do you recommend DDR5 for better future proofing?
Thanks! I'm looking at building 2 budget PCs this year. I'm still thinking of budget, but your videos really help!
Nice! Check out our Best Budget Gaming Builds 2022 video on the channel too! Might be helpful
Another great video. Thanks, Jason!
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching
**NOTES: 1) I refer to the ASUS TUF B660M-Plus as having upgraded audio. Sadly it does not. Go for the MSI Mortar, Tomahawk, or Aorus B660M Pro instead. 2) The stock cooler has a reflective ring, not an LED ring light**
What i5 12400 Build are you looking to do? Or are you considering Ryzen 5600X, i7 12700, or something else?
How do i find out if RAM is single or dual rank?
I'd love to see the i5 12600k from you. Love the videos and seriously much appreciated.
We've actually got that video already! You can find it on our "builds and parts" list on the channel page
answered this on your other comment (:
@@PCBuilderChannel Sweet! I'll check it out!
Exactly what I was looking for 🗣️💯
Awesome! hope its helpful!
I just found your videos and I love it! Exactly what we need. GOOD JOB
So glad you found us! Welcome to the channel
This is the exact thing my cousin was looking for , I'll share it with him , thank you
Great! Best of luck with their build!
I just purchased AVGPC Quiet Series Gaming PC Intel Core i5 6 Core 12400F up to 4.40 GHz, 16GB DDR4, GeForce GTX 1660. Your videos helped me decide on what pc to buy. Thank you. I do multiple things such as streaming, editing and rendering as well as VR gaming. Just subscribed.
I think you do a good job representing real questions that real people have in real builds. Good job.
That's great to hear! Thank you and glad you enjoyed
Thank you so much for your hard work on this video.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
just returned home, with my new PC Build with i5 12400f and RTX 3060, with CL16 3600MHz 16(8*2)GB RAM , corsair 650w 80+bronze psu & monitor Gigabyte G27F, after lot of much much valuable lessons and inputs from your videos. Looking forward to set it up tomorrow morning & enjoy the weekend ahead and days ahead.
Was intending to go with 5600x but the price wasn't fitting well with the budget and shooting stars with taxes applied here in Eastern India. So, team blue was the choice, I had to take.
I was a bit skeptical about missing out on 3060Ti but the price again was a thing of an issue...hope my system works well for my needs. How's my build looking ?? :)
Thanks yet again Jason!
Awesome!! So glad we could help and I hope you love it!
Hi Jason. Just finished the Intel Core i5-12400F gaming desktop computer build yesterday using the links in your video description. Thanks for this great and informative video.
Thank you for supporting the channel! Congrats on your build.
Hey, I love your videos!
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching!
huge thanks for this video! although I chose the right combo by myself, having it confirmed by you is great relief.
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed and congrats on your build
Must say I don't have it yet because I struggle on choosing case :/ is big difference from user perspective between ATX and smaller boards?
Wait asus tuf b660 is bad?
THIS IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR THE WHOLE TIME😍😍😍
Amazing video, there's no question left unanswered.
Thanks for the great feedback! We really appreciate. Hope this helps you build!
Like your build, you packed a lot of value into that video! Love how you show where you can get (or is some cases, not get) extra performance for more money.
Really glad you enjoyed! Thank you for watching
another good video thank you
Glad you are enjoying it! Thank you for watching
If you're on a budget I recommend sticking with the stock cooler and spending that extra $30 or so that you would've spent on the cooler on getting better peripherals or ram or a slightly better gpu or whatever then you can get a cooler later on
Thanks man, this was the right video I was looking for, this is the rig I'm supposed to build soon. 👍🏻😀
Glad I could help!
A genuine sincere thanks for this nice informative video from a 13 year long pc gamer and builder, who, thinks of themselves as tech savvy compared to the general population, but was a bit "out of the loop" with cutting edge stuff. After dealing with a very frustrating past few months dealing with either a failing 3700x couple year old ryzen and/or the apparently widespread Ryzen "fTPM" issue, I said screw it and ordered a 12500 setup. Was only $10 more than the 12400. I ordered the black 120mm ID cooling tower cooler per your suggestion. I'm pairing it with 32gb 3600 ram, a 2tb Sk Hynix p41 gen4 7000mb nvme(went a bit overboard on this drive, but, I've kept my Samsung regular 840 for nearly 10 years, I'm in it with this nvme for the long haul), and reusing my existing 3070. Will make a quite potent 1440p high refresh rate gaming pc. Unfortunately, myself and some others still suffer from the stuttering and lagging with the fTPM issue even after venders released a bios update in May, a few months after AMD acknowledged the problem. When myself and others posted about still suffering from the fTPM problems, we were essentially met with crickets and tumbleweeds basically being left out to dry and abandoned. Idk if they expected us to just sit here and suffer, but, there is definitely something funky with the CPU after multiple new motherboards and new OS installs tried, no virus, temps ok, drives checked out ok, still the same problem when trying my old gpu too. I was just truly stumped and it was getting depressing so I threw in the towel on that build and ordered the 12th gen i5 which isn't affected by the ftpm stuff like ryzens are to hopefully ride out the rest of this console gen trouble free on w10, I'm waiting a few more years on win11 lol. I genuinely tried for a long time and did everything I could do. This will be my first intel since the good old 2600k. I didn't end up streaming like I thought I would so the extra threads on the ryzen 7 didn't benefit me much. Encoding can be offloaded to the GPU these days anyway. I sure do miss the good old days on windows 7 with stone cold reliable ivy bridge/sandy bridge with set it and forget it 1600mhz ram or even 1333. Great find on the 120mm ID cooler, I kinda grimaced when I saw how much the old venerable Hyper 212 shot up in price these days. I took a "gamble" on an up and coming tower cooler many years ago on a tinkerer build for fun with the very well regarded Cryorig h7 and it cooled an OC'd 8320E very well. Very intrigued to try out the ID cooler. I would have gotten that cheap $19.99 Deepcool Gammax v2 but didn't want to have to wait for them to send me the intel 1700 socket adapter...the ID cooler said it was already compatible.
That's sounds really frustrating! Glad you got it sorted
did somebody already mentioned that you looked like michael keaton. just messing with you bro love your channel
I'll take that! (;
Glad you enjoyed!
ure very pleasant to listen and learn from, thought ud appreciate the comment. have a wonderful day ♥
Thank you! You too!
Just subbed because this type of ideas giving videos is what I need
Thank you for the sub and welcome to the channel!
So helpful, really the best!
So glad! Thank you for watching
Thanks , this vid cleared my doubts.
So glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching
Them bar charts should attract more viewers. Pog!!
:-)
Great video. I learned a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video! Thank you so much for making it! I JUST purchased this CPU 2 days ago and I'm glad to see that my choices for this first build of mine are good. This will be a learning experience but I can do it.
Awesome! Best of luck with your build!
Which mobo u used with this cpu
This is precise. Good work!
Glad you think so! Thank you for watching
This is great! 12400 really is the sweet spot of gamers in terms of price/performance at the moment.
Its a pretty great build right now!
@@PCBuilderChannel Yo can i really ask, im gonna upgrade PC. Gonna buy Intel I5 12400 but i play game more instead than doing some task or office stuff but i dont have any VGA/GPU on my pc. And im thinking which one the best between 12400 vs 5600G. But many friends told me that 12400 WITHOUT VGA is better than 5600G.You think 12400 can handle any games like for example Valorant or Apex?
Upgrading my FX8350, Asus Crosshair Formula Z mobo. With a MSI Pro B660m and Intel i5 12400f tommorow. Very excited!
Thanks for posting. Always love your content 👍
Glad you enjoy it!
fantastic comparison, just what we needed, no bullsht. kudos
So glad it was helpful!
A lot of people will find this helpful!
Awesome! Thanks for watching
Does this also apply with the 12500 and 12600 non k ?
How about i5 12400F and GTX 1080?
This helped me a lot, thank you sir :3
So glad we could help!
great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for the video. Always fond of budget builds.
Glad you liked it!
Good info. In my case it was after the fact since I already recently (March '23) built a PC using the 12400F with an ASUS Prime H670 Plus D4 and a 3060 Ti, but in watching this video it sounds like I did ok. I waited an extra year for prices and availability to improve and was able to come in at around $900 including a bump up on the tower and 750W PSU, but re-using my existing 1 and 2 TB SSD's with the OS from my old PC already installed. I'm very happy with the new build so far. My old PC (which still works, btw) is from 2009 with upgrades over the years on everything but the mobo and processor. Of course the new one is light years better.
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Great video. I have a question. I want to pair I5-12400f with DDR5 motherboard and kingston ddr5 16-32gb of ram. Is this smart move, or should I stick with DDR4? I've read that this i5 cpu supports up to 4800Mhz if ram. Any advice?
Im using 5600mhz and its working fine
Great video, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed! Thank you for watching
Your videos are rich with useful information im very happy that i find your channel
That's great to hear! We are glad you found us too (:
Hi Jason,is it ok pairing I5 2600K with ASUS Prime B 660M-A?i don 't overclock and rarely game,only use it for photo and video rendering,thanks
Always love your content!!!
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching
I just ordered a I5-12400f w/ a tomahawk and DDR4 3200 CL16. Thanks a lot for the guidance. Subbed
Awesome! Best of luck with your build!! And thank you for the sub
Great video Jason. After binge watching your videos i recently bought 12400F and amd 6600 gpu combination pc. It comes with asus prime h610m-K motherboard. It was a pre build and didn't have option to change motherboard to H660M unfortunately. It was a great price at the time i bought so i had to buy it :) I wonder if i can still increase the power limiter from that motherboard thought?
I've been watching and comparing gpu and components for the last year. i resurrected an i7-860 with more memory, a ssd and a gtx 770. at 5760x1080 I'm still playing couple year old games (@3840x760) lol. this video helped a lot and whilst not the most powerful, i think the upgrade will be significantly noticeable.
He talks like a deep knowledgeable Pc component guy.
Well he is indeed
Glad it was helpful!
Great Video! Keep up the good work.
So glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching
I have i5 12600 non K with GB B660 Aorus Master DDR4. The Corsair 3200 RAM unable to boot at XMP (I am sure it is the RAM's problem). AT RAM 3000Mhz, the PC is running well and cooler than 5600X.
very nice advice as always, thank you very much.
My pleasure!
Loved the video, this time around i'm considering building either with a 12400F to may upgrade on 13th gen or go straight with a 12700F idk. And probably will wait next gen gpus cause my laptop is 3060. Either way i don't think we will see msrp before the end of summer but by this time RTX 4000 and RX 7000 will be not far away so there's also that point.
my current build is a i5 12400f, 3060ti fe, msi pro b660m-a and corsair vengeance lpx 16gb 3200mhz cl16. as a cpu cooler using the artic freezer i35 argb.
amazing videos thank you
Glad you enjoyed! Thank you for watching
Hello jason, how to update my gigabyte b660m bios and turning off power limits cause i have i5 12400, also how to change ram speed cause my desktop builder didnt change my ram speed to 3200 mhz. the task manager only says i have 2400 mhz
Thanks Jason! Would love to see a 12700K build too !
on the list so stay tuned!
Thanks for seriously looking a pc build for people in a budget...God bless
i3 12100F Best Gaming Build coming soon!
@@PCBuilderChannel i cant wait it...hehehe
Great informative video as always. 👍
So glad you enjoyed!
Hey, Jason. I have a question. Is the MSI MAG B660M Mortar DDR4 still a good choice for an i5 12400F build? PCpartpicker says it's incompatible when compared to some other boards which are much more expensive. The MSI B660M Mortar is currently on sale for only $128, that's why I'm wondering.
I'm about to build my first pc based off the i5 12400/f. Very helpful!!
So glad we could help!
The silicon power ram kit is really good value. Ive used 4 of them on different pc's and never had any complaints
Yes they run like champs! I really like the ARGB ones (used in this build). They look great and are really cheap.
Obrigado me ajudou muito a tomar uma decisão pela memória de 3200Mhz! 🙆🏻♀️
I went with the gigabyte b660m ds3h, as it was the only affordable option at that time.
Great video as usual.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another point for igp is for troubleshooting. It's really convenient have the igp you can remove and test the motherboard.
You are by far the best PC building channel out there, no nonsense and always keeps me gripped. Recently built my first build successfully based fully on parts you have suggested. So thankful for your work and information 💪💪
Glad to help! Congrats on the build!
Keep up the great content!
Thank you so much for supporting the channel!
Just built an i5-12400 on an Asus z690-plus wifi d4, 32GB ddr4 3200 ram, 1tb M.2 and 4tb hard drive. All of it, tries, to come together with a RX 6500XT GPU. The GPU is temporary, hopefully. Everything is in a NZXT H510 case. This build is a lot better than what I've been running for a few years (i7-6700k).
Going to be building another one, for my son, soon. We are going to go with the i5-12400K instead.
Congrats on your build!
Awesome video! Due to the current GPU price drops, I’ve decided to begin building my first PC, it’s an i5-11600k RTX 3060 build, I’ve began buying my parts and will probably wait and hope for the GPUs to drop a bit more ( the GPU will probably be the last part I buy), needless to say I’m very excited.
To better GPU prices!
Best of luck with your new build! We have a 12600k build on the channel too you might want to check out
I am planning to copy your build. I am not ashamed. Kudos!
Build twins! That's the hope with these videos (:
Best of luck with your build and let us know how it goes!
@@PCBuilderChannel Already copped the mobo and cpu. Will be going the 6700xt route since I got a good deal. Thanks for the info! Binged watching ur videos lol.
Could you do the same video with the i5 12600k?
Can you make a build for someone who just wants the best most compatible parts? No budget but at the same time not wasting money on unnecessary stuff
For this CPU? This is exactly that. If you are looking for other builds check out our "builds and parts" list on the channel
@@PCBuilderChannel Not with this cpu, but with the absolute best cpu from Intel and/or amd. Its best pairing motherboard, and the best gpu. Unlimited budget. For a creator or someone who just wants the best of the best.