I Used Robert The Bruce's Tactics To Dominate The Battlefield!

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  • Опубліковано 24 лют 2023
  • English vs Scottish - it's a classic rivalry in history! And since everyone loves an underdog, we're going to look at the tactics used by one of Scotland's greatest commanders - Robert the Bruce and a tactic he used to great effect at the battle of Bannockburn. But how effective is this tactic in Mount and Blade 2 Bannerlord? Let's find out!
    I decided to run this one from the ground the whole time, hopefully it's a bit more helpful seeing how it's doing without the RTS Camera mod! I also included an AI vs AI result to compare the difference.
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  • @waleedkhalid7486
    @waleedkhalid7486 Рік тому +1674

    Wow. This makes me want to play the commander role more in battles than the usual Elite warrior role I usually play.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +357

      I know what you mean! I went through the same progression - I only wanted to be a warrior for a long time and then slowly switched to being more of a commander. Combat is just too fun in this game, hard to give that up :)

    • @kalziumbones1557
      @kalziumbones1557 Рік тому +4

      Awesome!

    • @lineasevenadam5009
      @lineasevenadam5009 Рік тому +68

      @@Strat-Guides Especially if you wield a big ass norse axe :D

    • @CharChar2121
      @CharChar2121 Рік тому +13

      Yeah, I get that, but why not just play total war at that point.

    • @Mowraq
      @Mowraq Рік тому +83

      @@CharChar2121 Because you still can get into the heat and change the tide of the battle. I also like to be the commander but sometimes I just can't help it and flank the attacking infantry with my trusted twohanded axe and a few line breakers. Epic. Try that in TW

  • @lordulberthellblaze6509
    @lordulberthellblaze6509 Рік тому +391

    I kinda laughed when I first saw the thumbnail describing it as a Schiltron. Because in the Total war games, this formation is also used and is lovingly called the "Noob box"

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +54

      Haha yeah I should change the title to Noob Box :)

    • @thecoolbyzantine24
      @thecoolbyzantine24 Рік тому +17

      honestly in medieval 2 if the spears are in the front in a thickness around 3-5 men supported by 50-80 swordmen each behind them with archers in the center the formation becomes a generally good idea if the enemy lacks any artilery units

    • @GAMER123GAMING
      @GAMER123GAMING 7 місяців тому +5

      In the total war games there is aalso a formation called the schiltron where its actually a unit formation not an army formation and the unit basically forms up as a circle with spears pointing out on all sides

    • @handlesarecringe957
      @handlesarecringe957 6 місяців тому +6

      @@GAMER123GAMING There's also the spear square in Shogun and Empire/Napoleon's infantry squares

    • @NGCS-ej4lz
      @NGCS-ej4lz 5 місяців тому +6

      And yet it was used as a last resort by every one of the greatest commanders in history, starting with Bruce.

  • @tailung1006
    @tailung1006 Рік тому +1059

    i love this concept of reproducing historic battles in bannerlord, this game is so realistic and has so much tactical depth with the different units and terrain

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +138

      I'm not sure why it didn't occur to me to do it earlier lol Oh well! I'm working on Battle of Cannae next, which should be a good one

    • @celticballer
      @celticballer Рік тому +7

      ​@@Strat-Guides I just heard about that battle yesterday. It was brutal defeat for Romans. I can't wait

    • @lethalslaughterband5498
      @lethalslaughterband5498 Рік тому +1

      @@Strat-Guidescould you do any early modern battles?

    • @reileyscoyote7976
      @reileyscoyote7976 Рік тому +11

      @@Strat-Guides PLEASE DO CANNAE. I cannot WAIT to see Hannibal’s Masterpiece

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +4

      @@reileyscoyote7976 working on that one for next week!

  • @c.w.simpsonproductions1230
    @c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Рік тому +174

    The battle of Falkirk showed the glaring flaws with the schiltrons. Yes, it's fearsome against calvary and infantry, but when Wallace's calvary deserted the field, King Edward I sent forth his archer force and the archers, crossbowmen and slingers began raining projectiles on the inexperienced and poorly-armoured Scottish spearmen. The schiltrons were an easy target; they had no defence and nowhere to hide. If the force isn't heavily armored, they'll get cut to pieces and run down by calvary.

    • @joshuaheidepriem8457
      @joshuaheidepriem8457 Рік тому +19

      Cavalry

    • @handlesarecringe957
      @handlesarecringe957 6 місяців тому +6

      This also is a glaring weakness in the gunpowder age. Cannons will tear through a square easily.

    • @taylornox
      @taylornox 5 місяців тому

      Everything you just mentioned has nothing to do with the formation lol, lightly armoured troops unsupported by calvary, always get eaten alive by archers, regardless of their formation.
      Wallaces mistake was believing that he could just stay hunkered down and Edward wouldn't risk shooting his own infantry and Calvary in order to also hit the Scots, unfortunately for him Edward didnt give a fuck.

    • @HeadlessHorsemanProductions
      @HeadlessHorsemanProductions 4 місяці тому

      THIS. On my channel dedicated to advanced Bannerlord tactics, I often use the adage, static troops are dead troops. Early in that battle, a good commander would have found appropriate shooting spots, surrounded it and wasted it with ranged units.

    • @todddias4125
      @todddias4125 Місяць тому

      I just looked up this battle. So interesting how it played out and how ineffective they “hedgehogs” were against ranged units. . Any other cool battles to look up.

  • @Nick-hi9gx
    @Nick-hi9gx Рік тому +322

    Small nitpick, schiltrons are more ovular than square, sometimes circular. Which is where it gets its name, "schiltron" is a hedgehog. Small, circular formations of large spears (kinda JUST on the cusp of becoming pikes) began to be used in Scotland maybe as early as the 12th, Robert Bruis made them far more effective and by that point pikes were beginning to show up. He figured out a way to drill his men effectively in moving the schiltron to reposition it. Prior to Bannockburn, they had been used to guard flanks, or as static position defense. In fact, it was probably the inability to move the schiltron that cost Wallace his battle at Falkirk; they got shot to shit and then charged as they broke from the arrows.
    The history of the schiltron is interesting. There are currently two primary theories, that the Scots either learned it from the Swiss or the Brabantines. Both were early adopters of pike formations.
    This is a Hollow Square formation, used by Romans and Chinese. The Romans made use of it famously at Carrae to keep themselves from being shot and charged on flanks. Didn't save Crassus. Or poor Publius.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +94

      Damn you know your history! I did read up a bit on the subject before making the video, but you've explained it much better and more succinctly than others.

    • @Nick-hi9gx
      @Nick-hi9gx Рік тому +80

      @@Strat-Guides I am a historian, in fact. Roman, but I have a fondness for the Scots as well. I did a paper on Robert in my first or second semester of undergrad.
      It is a shame that pike formations, and spears/pikes in general just don't work that well in Bannerlord, even with RBM. Works decently with RBM with real people playing, but the AI can't use a pokey stick for shit.

    • @stephenlyon1358
      @stephenlyon1358 Рік тому +13

      @@Nick-hi9gx Robert caught the arogant english on the backfoot at bannockburn - he used his soldiers like the greek anvil but didnt have a hammer. They penned them into area surrounded by water and pushed them back. English cavalry could not deploy and the english archer had no clear shots. Cavalry and archers was the english win button and bruce robbed them of it. They pushed against eaechother and at the moment of greatest need, the Scottish common folk who had been travelling with the army, took banners and makeshift weapons and joined the fray for freedom.
      Never underestimate how useful arrogance is when it comes to strategy XD And the English are the most arrogant of all :P They would give the Romans a run for their money XD

    • @003milo
      @003milo Рік тому +10

      Nick, thanks for pointing that out! I love what Strat Gaming does, but the first thing out of my mouth when I saw the formation "This is not a schiltron." That's okay everyone can make mistakes and he takes the information you pointed out like a champ.

    • @chrisburgett165
      @chrisburgett165 Рік тому +2

      This was really cool to read

  • @anylco
    @anylco Рік тому +273

    I hope they add bigger battle maps, and better AI tactics. I love this tactic videos

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +33

      For sure, it would be cool to see more focus on improving the AI. Thanks for watching!

    • @ShacolateClown
      @ShacolateClown Рік тому +6

      seems like ai is still the same as early acces. when outnumber you they rush you. and if you outnumber them they try to get high ground or circle formation for some reason.

    • @anylco
      @anylco Рік тому

      @@ShacolateClown They have 2 group of cav, 1 HA, 1 INF and 1 ARC afaik. I wish they have more options, like 3 inf with 2 arc, while they bait you with cav etc.

    • @feelingnether158
      @feelingnether158 Рік тому

      It’s probably a nightmare to code new AI.

  • @renaultmckinnon
    @renaultmckinnon Рік тому +184

    You are by far my favourite Bannerlord youtuber. You're videos are consistently top quality and really interesting. Keep up the awesome work!

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +7

      I really appreciate that! Thank you for the support :)

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 Рік тому +18

    One of Robert the Bruce's best friends was chivalry- the fact that other people had it.
    He murdered John Comyn, the other claimant to the throne..... IN A CHURCH.
    When they defeated the English at Bannockburn, he had a spectacular duel with an English Knight. Knowing the knight as the lesser was bound to run at him headlong or be considered a coward, he sat still as the knight charged at him, dodged at the last second and split his skull with his axe, complaining that it damaged the best haft he had.
    Giles d'Artengan, an English retainer of Norman blood, considered the third greatest knight in Christendom (behind the Holy Roman Emperor and Robert himself, because royalty) carried the English king from battle and then, because he would not disrespect his code and be known a coward who fled, turned around after leading the king away to rush back into the Scots alone and die. One of the best warriors in the world who trained for over 30 years, with the ability to make men fight far beyond their normal resolve with his legendary status.... dead because "muh reputation."
    Needless to say, Robert was a great warrior and leader, but he got helped along by just how caught up in superstitious character development people were.

    • @DJMavis
      @DJMavis Рік тому

      Illiterate horse bros, as my favourite history podcast calls the chivalric knights. A whole lot of dumbassery.

    • @Oxtocoatl13
      @Oxtocoatl13 Рік тому

      Also Robert was just not above getting his hands dirty. When he was still a guerrilla leader, he regularly raided and extorted his own people to fund his war. After Bannockburn, he subjected Northern England to a decade of continous, annual raids to maintain pressure on the English. Chivalry wins you friends, but ruthlessnes wins wars.

    • @mrkitcatt2119
      @mrkitcatt2119 Рік тому

      The Bruce's were Norman

    • @reece42069
      @reece42069 7 місяців тому +1

      Bruce realised if you play people better then you at their own game they will win
      So he played by his own rules

  • @JD96893
    @JD96893 Рік тому +41

    You know mount and blade has come a long way when these real life tactics really work.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +13

      It's pretty cool to see! Much better than Sun Tzu F1 + F3 lol

    • @JD96893
      @JD96893 Рік тому +4

      @@Strat-Guides yes! Would be cool to see a smarter AI as well, but at least the mechanics are on spot for the most part.

  • @CaptainBlaine
    @CaptainBlaine Рік тому +27

    The tactical part of this game is so satisfying. Just last night I fought a vicious campaign to take the remains of the northern empire. It was only one town and a castle, so I thought it would be relatively easy, but they had a massive amount of units. The biggest challenge was that I am not a kingdom, instead I sieged both as a clan with less than 200 units and defeated wave after wave of anywhere from 400-950 units while I was building up my siege camps! I thought I might lose every single time, but by using careful positioning of units and feints, and flanking attacks, I destroyed them all. So worth the huge amount of time it took. It’s probably about time to start my kingdom though. I’m just nervous that everyone will go on the attack against me. I think my character has earned his rest from war. Lol

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +10

      It's an interesting problem - the smaller a kingdom is, the more dense their troops are. It takes a long time for them to lose their nobles to other kingdoms, so for a couple years they will have 1000+ units in the last fief plus militia plus garrison lol it's nuts!

  • @floran20
    @floran20 Рік тому +58

    please do more of this. historical battles emulated in M&B is what should've been done a long time ago

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +9

      Will do! I'm already working on Hannibal's battle of Cannae tactics, but it's a really hard one to pull off so far

    • @SirAtesh
      @SirAtesh Рік тому +3

      ​@@Strat-Guides in reality key for reverse crescent was highly trained and very disciplined troops. Good luck pulling that off in bannerlord :D

    • @SirAtesh
      @SirAtesh Рік тому +1

      Center must withstand while slowly falling back, i hope some modders are crazy enough to attempt some kind of template commands to pull off things like these

  • @vaasmontenegro481
    @vaasmontenegro481 Рік тому +9

    Robert the Bruce. The First man to use the noob box

  • @jammonkey6249
    @jammonkey6249 Рік тому +27

    interesting fact: the English were well famed for their powerful longbows able to shoot farther than any other bow at that time period, when William Wallace tried using a schiltron to fight against the King of England with this strategy in an open field the longbowmen simply shot from afar before the English knights swept up the last of the remaining Scottish peasants who were rebelling and captured William Wallace, not long after this event William Wallace was tortured and executed

  • @crimsonlight4205
    @crimsonlight4205 Рік тому +11

    Fun fact, if your outnumbered by a lot of cavalry, the ai npc will actually tell you to surround the archers with the infantry to keep the cavalry from getting to them. It was super effective for me.

    • @jaybiddy955
      @jaybiddy955 4 місяці тому

      I just did this today 800 vlandian calvary troops/archers vs 500 empire Archers/Infantry the AI set this up on its own and told me to command the archers yo the middle we won too

  • @ansonbock4669
    @ansonbock4669 Рік тому +16

    Love seeing all the different factions he plays as in these, was not expecting to see the Rodoks

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +5

      I've got the De Re Militari mod on for this one and the Rhodoks are as strong as ever :D

  • @HeadbutKneecap
    @HeadbutKneecap Місяць тому +2

    When you first leap over your soldiers was pretty badass. I could already tell you were gonna win

  • @z34rk79
    @z34rk79 Рік тому +8

    Don't you love it when a plan comes together

  • @davidnewton93
    @davidnewton93 Рік тому +9

    I'm really enjoying this series of testing historic formations. A lot of games real world tactics don't often translate well to them, so it's a beautiful relief to see them work as they should do. Mirroring what someone else said, these videos have made me want to be more of a commander and less of an elite warrior in battles. It sure gives you a lot more time to make decisions and observe the battle properly... until you get an arrow to the face :'D

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Thank you, I'm really glad people are enjoying these! Haha yeah they've got a sniper on their side

    • @DJMavis
      @DJMavis Рік тому

      I used to be an commander like you, until I took an arrow to the face.

  • @alexmagana2416
    @alexmagana2416 Рік тому +3

    Seeing the effectiveness of real world tactics in banner lord is pretty dope, hope you do more of these

  • @Themattster97
    @Themattster97 Рік тому +1

    I appreciate the effort and creativity you do making the videos!!! Thank you for sharing and please keep up the fantastic work!!

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      I'm glad you like them :D I appreciate the support! I'm working on Battle of Cannae for next week, hopefully I can get it to work! It's giving me some issues though lol

    • @jamestalbot1647
      @jamestalbot1647 Рік тому

      @@Strat-Guides hi mate, you do to much first person… I preferred your video that got millions of views because it was Birds Eye and more informative

  • @eleumas
    @eleumas Рік тому +6

    Loving this kind of videos, hope you get the support you deserve!

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +5

      Thank you so much! It will take time, but I'll keep working hard either way :)

  • @wesonparsons9762
    @wesonparsons9762 Рік тому +4

    I just recently discovered these videos and they’ve helped my Bannerlord performance SO much! I’m by no means as good as you, but even basic tactics are amazing against the AI. So THANK YOU!🎉

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Nice, I'm happy to hear my videos are being put to real use :D Thanks for the support!

    • @Fernando-qk9fd
      @Fernando-qk9fd Рік тому

      That is the reason I love this channel to improve my gameplay.

  • @evantyler8647
    @evantyler8647 Рік тому +5

    Loving these tactic videos, they are my favorite and I watch every single one!

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Nice, I've got a bunch more in the works! Currently I'm trying to get Hannibal's tactics at the battle of Cannae to work, but it's difficult to say the least

  • @gravygraves5112
    @gravygraves5112 Рік тому

    That was really cool! Been messing around with formations more in battles and it's been a game changer for sure. Been able to go into battles against more numerous foes and minimal losses.

  • @GoodNight0wl
    @GoodNight0wl 6 місяців тому +2

    Your video has made me a better player hands down.
    I just won a battle against The Empire 1800 to my 1000 by doing this strategy. We literally had exactly 69 soldiers left at the end, but we completely wiped them out. Unfortunately there was an army of 500 coming right up on us after, but I escaped, by disbanding the army, and letting my fellow vassals get chewed through.
    Still, we did far more damage to them.

  • @km_loop
    @km_loop Рік тому +1

    Love how you have the AI comparison at the end, really shows how well the tactics work.

  • @sacredlegion7407
    @sacredlegion7407 Рік тому +18

    Loving these tactics. Good video!

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +2

      Thank you! I'm working on the Battle of Cannae tactics next (Hannibal)!

  • @JamalalAndJoe
    @JamalalAndJoe 8 місяців тому +1

    One thing I have learned from strategies like this is when u find your enemies charging from one side try to flank them with your other army don't keep them all in a line and this strategy works good with this formation

  • @Biomirth
    @Biomirth Рік тому +1

    Great vid Strat. This is the meat of tactics that I enjoy most. I particularly liked how you regrouped when they reinforced, something I have a lot of trouble with (probably need RTS camera to see better as well).

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      RTS Camera is a great way to train actually! I don't use it in my campaigns, but I've used it a lot in testing and I think it's improved my skills on the ground as well

  • @ryanwood6006
    @ryanwood6006 Рік тому +2

    Legend has it, this game is the entance test to West point academy

  • @Ruberg89
    @Ruberg89 Рік тому +2

    Awesome video
    I really like the "history meet bannerlord" approach
    Keep it up man! 👍

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! I'm working on Hannibal's tactics at Cannae next :)

    • @Ruberg89
      @Ruberg89 Рік тому

      @@Strat-Guides i'll be looking forward to be watching that! 💪
      You're a great content creator, hope you'll keep supplying us for a long time 🤞

  • @halonate1429
    @halonate1429 Рік тому +1

    Had huge struggles with defending started watching you and learnt a lot I’ve been able to take outnumbered matches without getting curb stomped

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Wow nice! It's really cool to hear my videos are being put to good use rather than just fun to watch :) Thanks for letting me know!

  • @UEemperor
    @UEemperor Рік тому +1

    Good job dude. GOOD. JOB. dude.
    Its awesome to see channels like these.
    Ive been doing modern small unit tactics and survival tactics in games for a long time, and its a shame theres not many who actually try to (casually) implement real life tactics in a way that they WORK, instead of awkwardly cosplaying/LARPing them.
    Theres absolutely NO reason NOT to use real life tactics in games as they only help to reduce random deaths, frustration, and lost time.
    Really good to see these tactics being used, and absolutely awesome that bannerlord is realistic enough to support it.
    Looking forward for more.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! I know what you mean - they do work but often times are overshadowed by "the meta" like Fian archer spam. I enjoy challenges so making these work are right up my alley!

  • @telesphoros
    @telesphoros Рік тому +3

    "Just an unstoppable shield wall. Now, there's gonna be a few that get through. You can see a few of them streakin' through right here... not a problem. You can't stop everybody." 1:08

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Hehe in my defense, the wall held :)

    • @telesphoros
      @telesphoros Рік тому

      @@Strat-Guides Lol, You actually had it under control. My army tactics would die to that wall for sure.

  • @aaronjaeger6861
    @aaronjaeger6861 Рік тому +5

    Effective against just cavalry too. I've been using this formation on a much smaller scale(50-70 infantry, mostly tier 2 and 3) to do caravan ambush and escort missions. I'm using RBM and DRM so I'm going up against about 40 tier 4 melee cavalry instead of the much weaker and more annoying combination of lower tier melee and horse archers.

  • @archerious1972
    @archerious1972 5 місяців тому +3

    The infamous Total War noob squares :D.

  • @niezlykretik
    @niezlykretik 7 місяців тому +1

    great gameplay man! feels like a real battle really could have been

  • @SharpTiger14
    @SharpTiger14 Рік тому +1

    Hey man! I've been watching your work for a while now, and you always produce high quality videos. Please keep it up!

  • @nilsmuhoza6470
    @nilsmuhoza6470 Рік тому +1

    Bruuuh this is soo good and such a cool concept please make more of these videos

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Thank you! I'm working on battle of Cannae tactics this week :)

  • @algorix8420
    @algorix8420 Рік тому +2

    Your content has always been very good, but you are still stepping it up. I hope this kind of video gets the views it deserves!

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your support! I really appreciate it. It's been a bumpy road for sure, but I feel like I'm finally starting to understand it now :)

  • @joshuaries4843
    @joshuaries4843 Рік тому +1

    Always look forward to your videos! Thank you!!

  • @ywe176
    @ywe176 Рік тому +1

    this just turned into a whole different game you are great dude love your video

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying them :)

  • @JEDIMIKETTV
    @JEDIMIKETTV Рік тому

    This style of video is awesome! Excited for Cannae

  • @pixelezio
    @pixelezio Рік тому +2

    Also known in the Rome Total War multiplayer community as the 'noob box'.

  • @gurdergames6854
    @gurdergames6854 Рік тому +35

    Absolute annihilation, but I'm still in early stages of the game and only have an army of about 150. I'd love to see smaller army tactics!

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +29

      Yeah for sure! I'm also thinking about doing a video using only low-tier troops that I think might be helpful. It takes a different style to commend them!

  • @Bucky2Times
    @Bucky2Times 9 місяців тому +1

    love this game, and watching these. that shot to the face at the end lmao

  • @KroM234
    @KroM234 Рік тому +2

    More commonly known as the "Noob Box" formation.

  • @ryanlee8051
    @ryanlee8051 Рік тому +1

    You seem like the type of guy who repeatedly Smacks it to the Braveheart ''FREEDOM'' scene

  • @bones1765
    @bones1765 Рік тому +1

    Solid video, liking this short formation tactics videos

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! A lot of people seem to be interested in this style so I'm going to keep running with it for a while :)

  • @yajrobot
    @yajrobot Рік тому +1

    Awesome video. You control your troops in a handsome and brutally realistic way. I'm waiting for Cannae.

  • @alphacentauri3069
    @alphacentauri3069 9 місяців тому +2

    Watching these videos show me just how bad of a commander I am.
    Gotta step up my thinking!

  • @taytayshanay9
    @taytayshanay9 Рік тому +1

    Best bannerlord UA-camr. You've been super helpful in my campaigns too

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Glad I could help! Thanks for watching :)

  • @Tryk0n3x
    @Tryk0n3x Рік тому +1

    There are times I spend way too much time in RTS camera just giving orders. There are times I enjoy to give F6 to my army and just go with cav and wreck havoc. Both are great, and seeing what you can do with some tactical approach. It was great to watch 🔥

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Tryk0n3x
      @Tryk0n3x Рік тому

      ​@@Strat-Guides any tips against khuzaits?

  • @billylion3073
    @billylion3073 7 місяців тому +2

    the amount of control you have is wild ...i cant even imagine doing that on the xbox haha

  • @l1qu1dm3t4lIV
    @l1qu1dm3t4lIV Рік тому +1

    Definitely going to give this a try.
    It's good to see you down there with the troops in this video too!
    I've been playing on the PS5 a lot lately and i'm always down with the boys on the field now
    (I spoke too soon. 😅)

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Yeah I got a lot of feedback about the top down view on the previous one, so I'm going to use the regular view from now on for these videos. It's much more immersive, just thought it might be harder to tell what's going on

  • @cheddars2
    @cheddars2 Рік тому +1

    could have sworn you were at 77k subs like, 1-2 days ago, some solid growth!

  • @BB-nn9en
    @BB-nn9en Рік тому +2

    Really cool video! I love it

  • @Mowraq
    @Mowraq Рік тому +3

    What I'd love to see is some kind of choke point tactics. There are some maps in Bannerlord where you can defend on multiple choke points like the oasis village in southeast aserai territory or the riverplains north of epicrotea with it's many bridges. And in history there probably were more than enough of such battles. That is, assuming you didn't already do something like that, i just recently found your channel.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +4

      Thank you for the feedback! I have not made a video on it for this specific series, but I do have a 2nd channel and few battles exactly like you describe: ua-cam.com/video/DyOaFp_Slu8/v-deo.html&ab_channel=StratPlays
      Skip forward to about 9 and a half minutes to get to the battle!

  • @AugustSchroif
    @AugustSchroif Рік тому +2

    Sturgian Heroic Linebreakers want to know your location.

  • @sebbes333
    @sebbes333 6 місяців тому +1

    *@Strat Gaming Guides* (minor detail)
    0:29 I would have put the archer lines as 2 diagonals, like / \ or as \ / (but more angled, about 45* ) depending on where the enemies are expected to attack, and such that they don't shoot themselves.
    And as a diagonal, they can reach 2 sides even faster to reinforce where needed.

  • @ivanstojanac7752
    @ivanstojanac7752 Рік тому +1

    Can't wait for the next one. That will be very cool to see

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      I'll be working on Battle of Cannae all week! It's a tough one to pull off though

  • @zivgann1808
    @zivgann1808 Рік тому +2

    Every single video of you is something new and interesting. Amazing job brother

  • @yabs9642
    @yabs9642 Рік тому +4

    feel like this tactic would be REALLY strong with a death unit in the middle, ppl with greatswords/two handed axes/glaives that can reach around the shield wall and or get stragglers. or in real life tactics they could create a shield wall with the idea of letting the enemy create a triangle in the line and the point of the triangle will purposely give in for the death squad to go wild. wonder if you can do that in bannerlord

  • @jacksont7494
    @jacksont7494 Рік тому +1

    Love these vids!

  • @CWig_99
    @CWig_99 11 місяців тому

    so many memories of fighting online in Rome Total War, and every so often the infamous Noob Box would appear, hell, I even pulled it out a few times 😁

  • @CallofDutyBlackOps28
    @CallofDutyBlackOps28 Рік тому +1

    this is the first time i've seen a box formation in this game; let alone something work this *GOOD*

  • @scark0
    @scark0 Рік тому +1

    That jump into the shield wall at the beginnig was slick

  • @FG-ww8rc
    @FG-ww8rc 11 місяців тому +1

    This worked pretty damn good. I bet some shock troops in the center would help clean up anyone that broke through

  • @manliestwife
    @manliestwife Рік тому

    Think its worthwhile to remember that Robert the Bruce utilized a mobile Schiltron at bannockburn, the major flaw of the schiltron is its immobility, leaving it heavily vulnerable to archer fire as seen in Willy Wallaces's rebellion, a mobile schiltron provides the mobility to get too close for archers to be of threat but it requires alot of coordination from both men and the commanding force. The immobile schilltron was also often seen in a more circular formation whilst the mobile schilltron was always rectangular like the one seen here. Great video though, awesome to see stuff like this in M&B

  • @demomanchaos
    @demomanchaos Рік тому +1

    This is basically the old Rome Total War "Noob Box" formation which a player can easily destroy via cleverly picking the battles.

  • @0rphan169
    @0rphan169 Рік тому +1

    Great vid! Now I have to watch outlaw king

  • @don_alilionheart151
    @don_alilionheart151 Рік тому +1

    That's how total war players chill in mount and blade. Some magnificent epic strategies like this! Great stuff

  • @javaslapnervedjosh1877
    @javaslapnervedjosh1877 3 місяці тому

    i cant stop hearing Shield-Tron. like its some power rangers megazord or something, beautiful video :)

  • @MrCreation0099
    @MrCreation0099 Рік тому +3

    Because I play on console it’s quite a bit harder to make complex formations so to counter that I tend to use tedious commands and feint attack I use cavalry to flank with myself at their side I tend to take a more cautious approach to any battle I go into and when I have superior troops I’m able to take on massive armies with my own personal warband of around 130 warriors

    • @MrCreation0099
      @MrCreation0099 Рік тому

      For an example with my elite force of 54 legionaries 25 fian champions and another 25 imperial elite cataphracts ( with some mixed in miscellaneous troop types I like have a bit of diversity on my armies ) I can take out armies nearly 3-5 times my size

  • @chocobee96
    @chocobee96 Рік тому +1

    Great video reproducing the formation. It would be great to see how these tactics and formation would fare against to F1+F3 and compare the loses.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Thank you! If you check the very end of the video, I show you the stats from F1 F3 test (I actually ran it 3 times and this was the best results I could get).

  • @XDbored1
    @XDbored1 Рік тому +2

    the main weakness i think would be your rear line getting shot in the back by longbows, but you could make a more complete shield wall if you had to, and just having more archers then the opponent is also a good archer defense

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Yeah I agree - this formation breaks down against archer-heavy armies

  • @declanandrewbell
    @declanandrewbell Рік тому +1

    fantastic video. not remembering to deactivate Hold Fire is indeed a mood.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Lol it's sad that I did it twice in the same battle :P I wish they had a warning beep like when you don't put your seatbelt on in the car...

    • @declanandrewbell
      @declanandrewbell Рік тому

      @@Strat-Guides or even just text lines from unit captains like when you've joined an army

  • @bubbles190
    @bubbles190 Рік тому +1

    "Unstoppable shield wall"
    "Some will get through"

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Haha superlatives are the death of accurate statements :)

  • @rathfoks5051
    @rathfoks5051 Рік тому +1

    These tactic vids are so good ♥

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Thanks! I've got several more on my list to cover, Battle of Cannae is up next

  • @DJMavis
    @DJMavis Рік тому +1

    Hoots mon! That was epic. Now to get enough pikes or polearms to be able to carry that out

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      It's actually still effective with regular shield wall troops like legionary or heavy axemen! The main goal is to stack enough troops (depth, not width) so that it slows the cav down to a stop. Once they get stuck, they are easy pickings!

  • @rtrasphalt9963
    @rtrasphalt9963 Рік тому +2

    this formation is amazing in rome total war with phalanx units, just make sure you overlap the ranks on the corners to make the flanks safe

  • @karsonyu7240
    @karsonyu7240 10 місяців тому

    I absolutely love this tactic when using it in battles. I didn't know the formation name so I just called it the infantry square, best formation against calvary in the napoleonic wars, I was Vlandia and had Vlandian Sergeants and Pikemen, I had arboreals as my archers, I made the square just as you did but since the archers didn't have shields they were just bow men. Nether the less the archers fired point blank into the line, regardless enemy or not and it was so much fun getting the better of the enemy by being smarter. I was fighting the Empire, they had Empire Legionaries and Empire Elite Menavliatons. Their calvary was Empire Cataphrats to balance things out. I tried to create a pike and shot scenario (without the shot). By the way I was doing a custom battle to test things out and the RBM mod. It was like out of the movie, calvary attacking all flanks but the square stood their ground and we ended winning the day. Here's to the schiltrons!

  • @DrBrule-ht2ms
    @DrBrule-ht2ms Рік тому +5

    Funnily enough I’m in the middle of a Robert the Bruce campaign right now. Guess I’ll have to incorporate this in a few battles for the fun of it. I’ll try for an outnumbered bridge battle as well, a la William Wallace at the Battle of Stirling Bridge

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +2

      Nice! Perfect timing :D Good luck on your campaign

    • @giorgioosiris3216
      @giorgioosiris3216 Рік тому +1

      Lol, I started my very first playthrough on console last week, my character is a battanian modeled on Robert the Bruce, his name is Bob the Deuce...

    • @ThatFontGuy
      @ThatFontGuy Рік тому

      Don't forget to skin Hugh de Cressingham when you are done at Stirling. I think thats the guy, been a while since I read up on this period. His skin was turned into a baldric for William Wallace - the Scots really didn't like the guy it seems :P

  • @AnotherDuck
    @AnotherDuck Рік тому +1

    I need to watch more of these.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      I'm a little delayed on inverted crescent formation from Battle of Cannae, but I'll have it ready early in the week!

    • @AnotherDuck
      @AnotherDuck Рік тому

      @@Strat-Guides Awesome. I enjoy a bit of history too, and this is an interesting way to see how those battles could work. Not that it's 100% realistic, but it's good food for thought.

  • @rowanosborn2152
    @rowanosborn2152 Рік тому +2

    Love your videos there so helpful

  • @madeingermany9445
    @madeingermany9445 Рік тому +1

    1:10 Unstoppable shieldwall... Enemies come in from one side. Reminds me of that video with the smol rhinoceros baby that walked between the steelbarrs behind the reporter xD

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Lol what?! I'm going to look that up right now, sounds like a hilarious video

    • @madeingermany9445
      @madeingermany9445 Рік тому +1

      @@Strat-Guides pretty old video

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      @@madeingermany9445 lol just watched it, very cute! I like how it went after the camera first

  • @bg-cb4ih
    @bg-cb4ih Рік тому +1

    Keep up the content loving it

  • @Oblivionplayer12345
    @Oblivionplayer12345 Рік тому

    Awesome stuff. Now to recreate the Battle of Carrhae and see if you can win as Crassus...

  • @samza360
    @samza360 Рік тому +1

    Damn, Horatio Nelson'd right at the end there

  • @FadedResolutions
    @FadedResolutions Рік тому +3

    Yah know... there's a certain wealthy individual named Crassus who did the same exact thing in Carhae around 2000 years ago... except he got utterly slaughtered by an army half his size consisting of purely horse archers. Crassus was captured and had molten gold poured down his throat ending his life. They then cut off his head and shipped it to the leader of the Parthians.. who then had his own general Surena executed because he was jealous of his glorious victory over Crassus. I guess nobody really does win in war..

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin Рік тому

      For every successful implementation of a tactic, there are dozens of failures!

  • @erensahin5447
    @erensahin5447 Рік тому +5

    Would be really cool to see you do a feigned retreat tactic

  • @drach420
    @drach420 Рік тому +1

    Oh, hell yeah. This is that content that gets me to pick up the game again.

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      I know what you mean - the game can get really stale if you do too much of the same thing and they don't really explain how to use troops well. Glad everyone is enjoying these :D

    • @drach420
      @drach420 Рік тому

      @@Strat-Guides I think I mentioned on one of your polls that "I would watch hours and hours of tactics videos". I wasn't lying.

  • @SolitaryJake
    @SolitaryJake 2 місяці тому

    I only started playing this game about a week ago so I don't have a big force like this, and I mainly fight bandits right now. But holy crap dude you commanded them like a boss.

  • @AdaLollA
    @AdaLollA Рік тому +1

    this is awesome content!

  • @aa-uq1qj
    @aa-uq1qj Рік тому +2

    In Total War we call the box formation at the start the "n00b" formation lol. Good video tho, legit tactic, if not a little cheesy

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Haha yeah the noob box :D Thanks for watching!

  • @ItsK1NOTIME
    @ItsK1NOTIME Рік тому +1

    7 videos in a row and this man is allergic to having his archers shoot arrows XD

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Haha and it probably will continue to happen :P

  • @kube410
    @kube410 Рік тому +1

    Realistic battle mod seems fix most of the issues i had with bannerlord battles.. I think its time to reinstall the game! Awesome vid man

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому

      Personally I have a hard time playing without RBM now! It's not very good for smaller battles (like 20 vs 20) but for anything in the mid to late game it's waaay better

  • @archiebruce929
    @archiebruce929 7 місяців тому +1

    as a Bruce who is a direct descendant i love to see how effective and well thought out his plans were

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  7 місяців тому

      Whoa, that's something you don't see every day! Thanks for watching and sharing :D

  • @KingPlaty
    @KingPlaty Рік тому +1

    Earned my sub with this content

    • @Strat-Guides
      @Strat-Guides  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for the support!!

    • @KingPlaty
      @KingPlaty Рік тому +1

      @Strat_Gaming thank you for the content good sir 🙏

  • @DudeWatIsThis
    @DudeWatIsThis 7 місяців тому +1

    >vikings use Bronze Age-tier shield wall in the year 1000
    English armies: "NOOOOO THIS IS UNBEATABLE!"
    >scots use crappy Carrhae Roman formation in the year 1300
    English armies: "TOO STRONK, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO, DERP."