Isn't it amazing that this hasn't ever been defined. Are you OK with the 45 degree experimental rule, or would you prefer 0 degrees (front of the plate).
@@baseballamerica I think either is fine as long as it's clearly defined and consistently enforced. A zero degree definition would definitely be more hitter friendly. I was at a game last season at Fenway when this situation came up and I got a video of it. In a tie game with two out in the bottom of the ninth and runners on first and second, Red Sox hitter Luis Urias appeared to strike out by going too far on his check swing which would have ended the inning, but the ump blew the call. The next batter, Pablo Reyes (who I erroneously call Jose Reyes in my video) hit a walk off grand slam (which I also caught on video). It's hard to see in my UA-cam Upload but you can tell in my live play by play I thought he swung. ua-cam.com/video/KwKivrCTV0w/v-deo.htmlsi=MhV6dTiW9IrAI7_c Here's a clearer view from the broadcast of that call: ua-cam.com/users/shortsdfQiGiQr6E0?si=rEs3tIYAydMUlq5X Here's my video of the grand slam. I was with my teenage cousins. ua-cam.com/video/SUbteNvptRM/v-deo.htmlsi=4xQtE003kDeRYAuH
Back in the day when I first started watching and playing baseball the rule was a strike if the wrists break. I've always felt the check swing rulings today are too tough on the hitters. I'd like to see this change implemented but I'm sure if you asked a pitcher or former pitcher they would disagree.
My own opinion on a check swing goes something like this: If the bat happens to hit the ball squarely with a checked swing, where would the ball go? Fair, it's a swing, foul, it's a checked swing. Of course, that is just as judgement-related as any other definition.
What does it mean 'the bat'? The front of the bat? The entire bat? Not clear what they mean. 'If you struck at the ball' is clear to me (breaking the wrist is a great line to draw where the swing is followed through).
We do not need this!!!!!! we need to have human umps becuase well... technology is ruining sports! just look at hawk eye in tennis. Humans have played apart of baseball for ever! humans make mistakes. How infuriating would it be if you had a ball that was two inches out of the strike zone and your team looses the game because of a walk from third base? and what would happen if the tech broke down?? this shit needs to stop!
Great video. Thanks for the info!
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I'm glad they're exploring this. Whatever definition they come up with, they need at least some sort of definition.
Isn't it amazing that this hasn't ever been defined. Are you OK with the 45 degree experimental rule, or would you prefer 0 degrees (front of the plate).
@@baseballamerica I think either is fine as long as it's clearly defined and consistently enforced. A zero degree definition would definitely be more hitter friendly.
I was at a game last season at Fenway when this situation came up and I got a video of it. In a tie game with two out in the bottom of the ninth and runners on first and second, Red Sox hitter Luis Urias appeared to strike out by going too far on his check swing which would have ended the inning, but the ump blew the call. The next batter, Pablo Reyes (who I erroneously call Jose Reyes in my video) hit a walk off grand slam (which I also caught on video). It's hard to see in my UA-cam Upload but you can tell in my live play by play I thought he swung. ua-cam.com/video/KwKivrCTV0w/v-deo.htmlsi=MhV6dTiW9IrAI7_c
Here's a clearer view from the broadcast of that call: ua-cam.com/users/shortsdfQiGiQr6E0?si=rEs3tIYAydMUlq5X
Here's my video of the grand slam. I was with my teenage cousins. ua-cam.com/video/SUbteNvptRM/v-deo.htmlsi=4xQtE003kDeRYAuH
Back in the day when I first started watching and playing baseball the rule was a strike if the wrists break. I've always felt the check swing rulings today are too tough on the hitters. I'd like to see this change implemented but I'm sure if you asked a pitcher or former pitcher they would disagree.
So you remember that too. I wonder when the wrist break stopped being viewed as the check swing guide.
My own opinion on a check swing goes something like this: If the bat happens to hit the ball squarely with a checked swing, where would the ball go? Fair, it's a swing, foul, it's a checked swing. Of course, that is just as judgement-related as any other definition.
Is there a definition for a bunt? Can they just hold their bat over the plate and if they miss they call it a check swing?
Ooh. Good question. It's probably not covered by the check swing challenge here but we can't say that for sure.
I checked further on this. Bunts cannot be appealed.
@@baseballamerica How do the rules define "bunt"? Is there some objective criteria to distinguish a bunt from an extremely slow checked swing?
What does it mean 'the bat'? The front of the bat? The entire bat? Not clear what they mean.
'If you struck at the ball' is clear to me (breaking the wrist is a great line to draw where the swing is followed through).
We do not need this!!!!!! we need to have human umps becuase well... technology is ruining sports! just look at hawk eye in tennis. Humans have played apart of baseball for ever! humans make mistakes. How infuriating would it be if you had a ball that was two inches out of the strike zone and your team looses the game because of a walk from third base? and what would happen if the tech broke down?? this shit needs to stop!