Pop!_OS By System76 Review
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2021
- In this video I review POP!_OS by System76
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@@troler7147 lul
@Jack The LeafI found a keyboard academic.
0:55 "If the UNIX philosophy was a religion, Ubuntu would be one of the biggest infidel out there. "
Mental Outlaw 2021
Best quote ever
Ubuntu kinnda feels like a totally different OS right now. Not following any mainstream linux distro convention (Fedora, Debian, Mint...)
Pop actually got me to stop distrohopping. And it made me actually LIKE Gnome because of the shortcuts and out the box tweaks. It's not perfect but I can tell you I haven't ran into a dealbreaker in the six months I've had it on my system.
Same man, Pop!_OS cured my distrohopping addiction
Same here it switched me from KDE I love how minimal their gnome theme is.
Only problem i had was battery life on my older laptop. Also gnome has performance issues on lower end hardware even today. However that's it it's a great distro I'd put on a desktop if i didn't want to mess with it
I feel that everything is so big in gnome, claustrophobic in a way.
Gnome has 2 great problems which made me switch to kde again. Big title bars and no definite way to reorder widgets in top taskbar.
"What is NVIDIA? What is a BIOS? How do I use it? Disabling secure boot? That sounds dangerous, they must be trying to hack me. I give up."
-normalFRIENDS
👍 some are really thinking everyone wants to hack them
aka normies lol
@@Noah-xl7md Too Reddit. The FRIENDS is a replacement for the word that I actually wanted to use, that also begins with f.
some people are mentally ill and think everyone is out for them and trying to hack them
Those are just generally unintelligent people with no curiosity or drive to learn new things. Sometimes it isn't their fault, however, I think most of them do it on purpose.
IMO Pop OS is the best implementation of Gnome and makes it so much better and cooler looking.
Hard agree.
i personally love manjaro gnome
Adwaita is very nice these days though.
I wouldn't say that. I think it's quite light on features compared to the modern manjaro gnome
Although i totally agree with you, Pop_os just makes me despise gnome even more due to how good it is.
It shows how great gnome 3 could have been if thier pos developers would have listened to the so called "community" instead of chasing trends.
It’s also meant to be more of a keyboard shortcut driven GUI.
POP OS is really good and work out of the box.
I never had problem with GPU drivers (nvidia and AMD): install the correct one and VOILA, you are good to go.
To be fair, I've never had a GPU compatibility problem on ANY distribution, including void, which I use now.
@@Supertimegamingify Literally only Linux distro I have been strugling with is Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Idk what they were smoking when they made patches for that one, but half of the patches crashed the Gnome, updater or other critical service, third party softwares worked like after 2 restarts. Funnily enough, my friend experienced exactly the same problems with completely different PC. Took 2 year break and it seemt fine on 18.04, but I wanted to be safe than sorry and just switched to xubuntu and had zero problems on my laptop and main PC.
Gnome just been such a huge letdown for me, I think I will never go back into using that.
@LeWolfie Of you want the GNOME experience then you can get it on every other distribution as well. You can always edit shortcuts and window stacking is a feature in many wms.
Intel users: cries in integrated graphics
I'd say the same until nvidia stopped updating the drivers for my card to be compatible with the newest linux versions oop.
Everybody gangster until Mental Outlaw switches to gnome
You can use the super key instead of the activities button.
Yes thank god lol.
Gnome with pop shell can be whizzed through using keyboard shortcuts just as fluently as i3 or any other tiling WM, fully configureable too.
Been running gentoo with gnome and pop shell, works amazingly well as a best of both worlds.
Hitting super and just typing is the only valid way to launch apps imo
@@deso8401 yeah, I tried using stock GNOME (41) on my laptop just to check it out, not really expecting much.
A month later, I'm still using it. I'm surprised how much I like GNOME 41, it's touchpad gestures, and how easy it is to navigate with the keyboard.
Only gripes are the system resource usage (especially GNOME Software) and the fact that it's basically required to install GNOME Tweaks to "unlock" the desktop.
@@lettuce7378 since gnome is a copy of macOS WM, I’m not surprised that it feels super fluid and intuitive. Apple has a massive R&D budget, and they really do create some of the best user interfaces on the market.
@@deso8401 i personally don't think that GNOME in any way resembles macOS, besides maybe the top bar. The Activities view and the emphasis on workspaces just doesn't scream macOS to me.
With Nvidia GPUs, this is the only distro ive tried that has no issues at all. They've already done all the tweaking. Whereas with vanilla Ubuntu I am having pretty major issues trying to get the proprietary drivers to work correctly. And ones like Linux Mint, though I love it, have had major screen-tearing issues with everything except the open source Nvidia driver. I dont remember having many issues with Manjaro, but I hate Arch-based distros and how unnecessarily difficult and annoying they make everything be IMO. Hopefully it wont be too long before I have a 6800xt and I can ditch Nvidia and their bullshit.
same dude
Quite opposite for me, Pop didn't use nvidia's driver when the installation was finished. I ended up installing it manually in 640x480 resolution which was difficult.
vanilla ubuntu really isn't a good idea for gaming
I recommend u should try kde neon or manjaro
@@skedyt yeah or pop os
@@ExtraLargeWindow well pop os is a little harder to use since its gnome its more like mac instead of windows (my personal opinion and preference)
I use Pop_Os for a year now, (came from windows)
Gaming is possible, (steam, blizzard, playstation emulator etc)
works right out of the box with Nvidia.
I even learned to use the terminal and some basic commands. I love it more every day as I learn ;)
@@Randomgirl13102 nice pfp
@@Randomgirl13102 If you don't figure Arch out you could just download Manjaro with Plasma. Basically preconfigured Arch, it works with other desktop environments as well
@@Randomgirl13102 i love debian
@@Randomgirl13102 What did you hate about manjaro? And what DE did you have
@@kris10an64 Artix would work as well.
I distro hopped a lot, passing by even tiling WMs and Arch. As I just want something stable, beautiful and functional, I can say that I haven't looked back in this 1 year I've been using Pop.
Great video!
I use Arch btw
@@LilSixy go ahead and run pacman -Syu.
GRUB RECOVERY SHELL
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5:22 im glad im not the only one that clears any screen even if it doesnt matter lol
This is me
I would like to try a KDE Plasma version tweaked by System 76 team. Pop_os is decent, but Gnome is a pain in the ass even with all the work they put in it.
Same here, although I would've preferred a tweaked MATE or wm-only build.
Presumably some of those high-end system76 threadripper systems are meant as workstations. The idea of a workstation shipping with gnome just seems weird to me.
@@moeta486 A release with awesome-wm would be a great, but I don't think they put the effort in a wm when they are trying to get to normies.
@Victor Hugo R-D, I too am waiting for KPop_os!
As a new Linux user, KDE was confusing as hell. So many customizations in different tabs it was overwhelming. I found that gnome was much simpler to use coming from Windows. Paired PopOS with Dash to Panel and Arc menu and it was the dream for a Windows user coming to Linux
I chose POP! OS for my custom build, and was overall very content with it.
The one issue I had with it (which I still have now on ArcoLinux) is my second monitor being black on startup.
You could try reading this wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA#Multiple_monitors and see if it helps with your monitor being black on startup, it fixed it for me.
even Win10 has problems with multiple monitors
@@moth57999
(2:19) As an engineer who uses trigonometry and calculus on a daily basis, I can confirm that NVIDIA drivers are in a whole new level
Pop OS actually has a guide to install different desktop environments, such as XFCE and KDE. As a beginner I always preferred KDE when testing out different distros
Based
I've been using Ubuntu for like a month and it's better than Windows but I feeling switching to Mint will make me get less criticism from the Linux community
nah dude, don't worry about criticism until you're well versed in most basic linux tasks
ubuntu and mint are hated on simply for being beginner-friendly mainstream distros. dont worry too much about it, the linux community can be both very positive and very negative
@@umamifan I think Ubuntu is rather loathed by some in the Linux community for Canonicals snap packets and snapstore.
Wasn't that the reason why Lefebvre forked off Mint?
But I don't know because I never used a Ubuntu based distro.
Don't care about being frowned upon for your choice of Linux distro, which is a very personal penchant.
Try a few and stick with the one that gives you the least hassle.
@@othernicksweretaken i personally dont like canonical either. they make decisions im not very fond of. which contributes to the hate
I actually just switched to pop os last week and it's pretty amazing . I mainly use my laptop for school and coding random crap and so far getting used to Linux wasn't as hard as I thought. My laptop has really shit specs and I feel like it doesn't sound like a jet engine anymore.
Kinda strange to call it a review when you just load it for the first time to check in a VM.
I'm very impressed by the updates on pop os! The recent sudo vulnerability was patched on my oryx pro (system 76 laptop) before i even heard about it
Been using Pop as my daily for close to a year(came from Windows). I've been playing around with Linux for close to 20 years but Pop is the distro to convince me to make the leap permanently.
same for me. pop os is the only distro that worked out of the box with my mx150 and it just works perfectly
There's this 28yr old bug found on Linux kernel. Very important. Do a video about it
agreed
I've been using linux for my daily driver since like 2008, I run manjaro as my main work PC and for my living room media center type PC I use Pop OS. I'm generally really impressed with what they've done with the desktop environment, the tiling windows are really nice and it's just generally a pleasure to use. Kind of a nice midway point between something like i3 and gnome.
I installed Manjaro GNOME recently, moved from PopOS. The Manjaro team has set it up exactly like in Pop now, including the tiling extension.
I've been using Linux since 2015 and have used several distros; there's just no competition to the AUR. Debian and Ubuntu supposedly have 30k+ packages but the majority are outdated (even on non-LTS releases) or many useful yet obscure programs aren't in.
For example, I wanted to install Emacs on 20.10, it was too old for plugins to work. Ended up installing Guix (another package manager). It's a mess lol
Thank you for this review. I'm getting one of the Pangolins when they come out and I haven't found any reasonable reviews of PopOS aside from yours yet.
"i think our desktop's taking a little while to load"
"this looks an awful lot like GNOME"
"isn't there supposed to be a side panel over here?"
man uses only his preferred window manager for so long, he reveals he doesn't know how to use the most popular GNU/Linux desktop environment in existence
I like your profile picture ❤️
"Most popular" only technically, because it's the default. That thing is atrocious. Is something even popular if people don't choose to use it?
@@censoredterminalautism4073 gnome is still the most used DE even in Arch.
@@rizkyadiyanto7922 People with brain damage can use Arch? That's dedication. Then again, maybe they used some script that sets everything up automatically. There's probably something like that out there.
@@censoredterminalautism4073 why do you hate gnome so much
im a linux beginner, your videos actually got me into Linux, and i got my friend to help me to install Pop, and after a month of using it its really good!
Thank you for the video. You did a good job of showing the basics of pop-shell's tiling and so on.
Switched my primary laptop over to Pop, whilst dual booting Windows solely for the Visual Studio and C#/.NET work that I need to do.
Took me a short few days, but I actually finished yesterday customizing Gnome to suite my preferences and functionality.
Been happy with it so far, and it's kept me from going to a hackintosh, as well as distro-hopping for the past few months.
This Nvidia version is just awesome. It's literally the only distro that worked (almost) out of the box on my Lenovo Legion5. Other distros spammed with graphics related errors or didn't boot at all.
Always had Macs in the house and at school as a kid, got my first PC in 8th and switching to Win10 was outstanding so much better for a light tinkerer like myself. Recently got a new pc and got it with Win10 by default. Ran for about 6mo on win before I started getting into Linux. Now I run Pop! on her and it’s like the same feeling all over again!
I was looking into Pop Os just yesterday, what the hell lol, thanks for the vid man
The tabbing thing is pretty neat. I was thinking about doing that myself.
You shall do helloSystem OS review. Maybe time to look out for BSD?
What do you want to see about had?the de shit that typical reviews are about is boring, more of the same but older version. For systematic difference, there's already extensive videos about license and leadership differences. Bsd is only interesting on firewall. A pfsense review would be neat.
@@emeukal7683 no. bsds are great for desktop use too.
Been waiting for this distro review for a hot minute
Been using Pop!_OS since I switched from Windows 10. I really like the built in tiling feature and keyboard shortcuts. Perfect for Normies like me.
It's also great for laptops that use nvidia optimus switchable graphics, because it supports it OOB, and it's great for laptops in general, because has a lot of power management oriented features and optimizations. Sure, you can do these things in other distros, but the fact that Pop! comes with everything already set up for you is simply great!
Installing on my Lenovo legion now
It just works when i want to and I can dig when I want to, tiling window manager is a plus too
Also, the system76-power rust cli application is a nice perk to have. Seamless hybrid graphics administration.
Oh, and the Pop! Shop lets you chose between deb and flatpak when the former is available. Easy flatpak support OOTB.
Tbh u deserve more subs bro
pop os is the only distro that fixed some annoying bugs with my lenovo laptop (mainly backlight issues)
Ikr Manjaro does not recognize backlight levels on my device as well.
LETS GOOOO HE LISTENED TO US THANK YOU SO MUCH
I put this on my tech boomer dad's old E Machines tower, upgraded with a dual core Phenom II, Radeon 7470 & 4GB of RAM for his gaming/emulating & pirate ship PC. He's never touched anything other than commodore, DOS & windows but loves POP OS & specifically said he liked the GNOME desktop. It runs fabulously on this hardware & is only limited by the old hard drive it's installed on.
Simple: just buy an SSD and install it.
Also good for more experienced users too. I switched from Deb 11 to Pop 22.04 due to constant issues with kernel and Nvidia driver modules since my rig is 50/50 work game device.. Also love the tile mode. Basically use that 24/7
Gnome added a half decent tiling WM? I would have loved that before I jumped off the tiling WM deep end, that's pretty neat.
Love your videos...always watch them
What do you think of manjaro gnome?
Our school kinda forcing us to use it
Hey Mr. MentalOutlaw, it's been a while for me since I've used Linux (played with Ubuntu mostly when I was younger) and to cut a long story short - My laptop has the Intel ax200 wireless card, which was posing problems for me on Ubuntu Mate, ElementaryOS and can't remember the 3rd one I've tried. Have you perhaps encountered this problem, and if so, could you point me in the right direction to try and get this working properly as my speeds are abhorrent by default? I did find some guides which sped things up a bit, but still, much slower WiFI than on WIndows which made me use abandon the Linux idea even though I'd like to use this machine with Linux. Many thanks for the consideration and for the quality and interesting content, cheers! P.S. another issue was that this laptop is passively cooled (no fans at all) and was getting quite hot during use, which was even more concerning than the WiFi issue.
I switched to Linux a few months ago. Pop was what I close because of prompted drive encryption and because it worked with Nvidia, Steam, and flathub (plus the guides at the time). I still you use, miss being a more advanced user just because if goes nice it is and I’m planning on buying one of their laptops.
Unix isn't a religion, but Linux sure is
btw i use arch
Do you use plan9?
for a split second i thought ur pfp was a hyper realistic freebsd logo xd
@Big Perx laughs in Solus
@Big Perx Just make your own distro or use something like kiss linux which you can maintain yourself.
Yes, and Windows is an abusive relationship. I should know, it's the OS I use the most unfortunately.
Love pop from boot to installed within 20 mins, only extension I need for gnome is a transparent top bar.
If they could do a fedora style btrfs setup with grub sync I'd be set.
If your coming from Windows slap dash to panel through gnome extensions or just embrace the dark side
I have the System76 Gazelle 15, came with POP_OS and it's solid laptop too.
i think i'd be really into pop os if they offered it with different desktop environments out of the box.
I think Cinnamon should be the default DE for beginner-friendly distros, or MATE. It resembles Windows and is more lean that both GNOME and KDE.
Yeah, the set up prompts for PopOS looks dope.
for you windows folk (or people who just don't like the taskbar in popos) I've personally enjoyed using the gnome extension dash to panel.
The nividia driver option is pretty good, considering that it even handles hybrid graphics (on laptops for example)
yeah its the only distro that worked out of the box with my hybrid
What are you doing your doctorate from?
Installing Nvidia drivers on linux.
Love your videos man
I have a system76 laptop and run popos on it and on my desktop when I’m not on windows. It is by far my favorite distro with a ui, it really just works. So easy to setup, run and install things. It’s also what I would recommend to Linux noobs for the same reason.
I like to install OS's....makes me feel like a geek when needed.
Hey look, it's the distro i'm using! how fun.
I use Pop just because it feels like it's made for my Notebook, my Intel and NVIDIA Cards work at the same time, the Dell Firmware is automaticly installed, everything is very smooth and I also like Gnome
I am not really a Noob, I do many things in the Terminal but I also prefer a GUI for many things and I was comming from Windows to Gnome and for me it wasn't too confusing
I recently installed Pop on my laptop in dual-boot with Windows 10. Decided to try it when I saw it has support for dual GPUs and fractional scaling (actually a Gnome feature I believe?)
I came from Elementary OS, and while the UI is good (Gnome too IIRC), it makes my laptop run hot and videos are a stutterfest. It might be using the dedicated GPU by default. And the display on my laptop screen is either too small or too big.
I might be staying on Pop for a while.
hey, could you do a more in-depth technical review of this OS? i'm interested in your opinion!
Good content. Liked and I will definitely be checking out what else you have made.
This is my favorite distro by far and I only uninstalled it because I get some weird graphical glitches when playing 3d games and I don't know how to fix, I don't have a powerful laptop and did the non-nvidia installation. Can't wait for cosmic!
Cambridge eh? Can't wait to see you on the T. Mental Outlaw meetup when?
The coolest feature is actually hybrid gpu mode for intel+discrete laptops
thank you for the video!
Came back after using a lot of other distros and feels better will use Gnome-Boxes if feel like a rabitt after watching other Linux channels that may make me want to switch so can just try them in VM.
I don't use PopOS but do use the gnome shell extension which is really nice. In my opinion the best way to get tiling in gnome
Pop OS is awesome. Unlike other GNU/Linux distro is very stable, reliable and very polished Linux distro. 20.04 version has 5 years support. After install POP OS is just working out of the box if you are beginner, or you can change it as you want. In my opinion Pop OS for beginners is little hard in use than Linux Mint Cinnamon, which is also a great GNU/Linux.
It's pretty good. It comes with a dock with cosmic now, has better tiling, so now there's no reason to use ubuntu, popOS is better in almost every way. I think the coolest thing about it is no snaps, simple packages that are curated in the popshop. It's designed to be the easiest experience possible. The drivers and gaming experience has always been great, good drivers otb. The setup without making a user is really cool for normies when you give them a USB stick.
i have it in my 2 pcs
More Gentoo videos. Tweaking, securing etc. Also qubes?
Pop really is the best for Nviida, especially if you have a new laptop or something.
Out of the box:
-Proprietary drivers installed right away on live boot so you can see if it's all working
-Steam games have no screen tearing on first launch (provided you install Proton, Gamemode, Wine, etc all in the Pop Shop). .
-Pop forces a composition pipeline for the GPU (helpful for switchable GPUs). *provided you're in the Pop DE*
-Even if the above isn't working for some reason, Nvidia XServerSettings is installed by default
-A bunch more under the hood things i'm not smart enough to explain
Absolutely fell in love with the customization and included software/gestures. Unfortunately, the installer immediately closes after selecting my language and install disk. Maybe when I upgrade laptops, I'll try again
Recently started binging alot of your videos. I'll be installing arch soon. My NAS is running TrueNAS and I was wondering if you could help me find a way to run MineOS in a jail
I never had problems installing nvidia drivers in linux, neither in Ubuntu, Pop OS or Arch
Maybe do a first impressions/review video for Manjaro or Qubes OS if you haven't already
I honestly love Pop!.. I have used Mint, Manjaro, and a few others. But just keep coming back to it. Yes it's alittle heavy on ram useage with it being Gnome. But I love how it gets out of my way to work. The already set features I like and hot keys/short cuts..
Missed out on the mouse tiling feature released last week
I love Pop OS.
Sadly on my new PC I had Issues with the boot NVME ssd on it, on Manjaro the problem seems to be gone. Hope I can figure out the problem though, I wanna go back
Yeah, I used pop os for about 3months, it is very nice and friendly, I like it .
I started linux on Pop last year and when my windows update broke my dualboot I had to reinstall and I've got to give it to Ubuntu, it was the only distro(out of Pop,Manjaro,Ubuntu) that would straight up tell me 'Yo your username 'lp' is reserved by the system'. On hindsight I could have checked the installation log on Pop :p (which there is a button for right on the installer) but that probably shows that time testing matters
i installed this yesterday
its messing up my computer with those "advanced recovery" things (and they give me heart attack thinking my computer is screwed)
but i love this os, its really fast, and it works really well. the interface is different, but i got used to it really quickly
i hope i will be able to get used to linux soon and one day remove windows
tbh the only reason why i still use windows is because of windows only software
id like to imagine an alternate universe where everything can be used in linux
Unfortunately, they are only available in a Gnome flavor. Of course, I know that you can install other desktop environments as well. However, I prefer getting polished distributions out of the box where I do not have to change everything.
It's pretty alright. I like Lu/Ubuntu (sue me), Zorin, and Manjaro more. But Pop isn't bad at all!
Will it work well on a dual core laptop with 2Gb or RAM?
Could you switch to MATE for the D.E.?
Can you please review Garuda Linux from the perspectives of usability, sustainability and security? Would love to hear from you.
I wonder if he'll go back to it when Cosmic is done
Dude, did you record the audio inside a wind tunnel?
Why is there no minimize / maximize button by default? Window management seems terrible without such basic options. Far from a beginner distro if you expect people to remember key combinations to switch windows and terminal commands to get a task manager that too without a GUI.
Could you do a video about tiled window managers. Like when are they appropiate to use, what are the advantages/disadvantages. I kinda want to try them out, but I always get confused by them. And perhaps not a review of tiled window managers, but rather about how to switch Gnome or Cinnamon or whatever DE to tiled, just like Pop!_OS does. I think that being able to turn on and off window tiling on the fly is really going to help people who are used to floating transition to tiled.
They're appropriate to use if you think you might prefer navigating your desktop mainly with a keyboard but still graphically. They are confusing at first if you're used to the traditional desktop metaphor, but you'll get used to it quickly the more you use it.
The advantages and disadvantages sort of depend on your needs - some people might think it's a con that you can't organise windows using a mouse, but users of tiling window managers might say that the tiling keeps things more organised and focused.
The way you'd activate it, like for any alternate window manager/DE, is installing it as normal, logging out and then selecting the relevant option (usually from a drop-down menu) before logging in again.
16:15 I never knew I could do that. Omfg I missed this feature so much on windows (not native ofc) . Can we do this on KDE?
Do Garuda Linux next please. I recently moved from pop os after a 10 months using Linux from the first time. I feel I betrayed her, but the level of plug and play GL gives is perfect for novice. ARCH might be a issue though but ofc the software manager fixes most of it. I want to go into details on pop os if that interests you or anyone. Pop os made my student life much more productive and I owe this distro alot.
I've heard so much about Ubuntu being not that private and free etc
What is there exactly like that? May be there's a paper or some compilation of information about this?
I really do not like you as a person at all but I love your videos and the way you explain everything so I don't care. Keep up the good work!
The lag you had I have experienced many times installing on the VMs I think the install dialog next button is of the screen, you need to expand the resolution which it looks like you did, I think its a bug with the installer and Virtual Box.
I'm building my first PC now and Win10 was too expensive so I was going to go with Linux Mint, wondering if I should go with POP! OS now though.
both are great in their own ways, it all depends (i know its kinda cliché) to your preference. My advice is to frequent their websites and compare which one gets closer to your needs/preferences. That way, i ended using manjaro XFCE
@@itsdokko2990 Hard choice really, I think I'll go ahead with Mint, it's billed as a decent workstation OS which is what I need atm, I might try some others when it comes time to get the GPU for this thing though.
the window tilling feature is what makes me their loyal client