I started out using Arch Linux, and my experience was not so much that Linux in general is too hard, but rather that proprietary Nvidia graphics drivers suck
Uh, proprietary Nvidia drivers suck indeed lol. Had to apply a random patch from internet to KWin in order to make it work due to what looks like a bug in their latest drivers.
@Maxblau exactly. The wiki and other guides online are so well written that it doesn’t really matter if you’re a beginner as long as you’re decent with computers
"When windows.. i don't know 11 or 12 whatever new version... whenever it comes out, i guarantee you there's gonna be changes to the UI, they're gonna move things around ya and you're gonna have to spend time learning that anyway." THIS aged like fine *_Wine_* . [Edit: 10:01 is when the quote starts]
Don't forget to throw your computer in the bin and buy another one that is currently unavailable due to semiconductor shortages, because Winbloat11 won't boot without it... 😒
"I don't really know how to do anything, I just google when things go wrong!" -- My Mom about managing her linux machine. I haven't had to do anything in years.
I have solved ALL my Linux problems by just googling them. If you have an issue on a mainstream distro, thousands of other people have experienced the same issue, and at least 1 person has made a forum post about it, and it has the solution. And usually all you have to do is copy and paste something into the terminal. Or maybe edit a text file. That's it!
plug a new drive in windows: works instantly plug a new drive in linux: "you don't own this drive, root does..." then needing to research how privileges work.
I'm a new-ish Linux Mint user. I had a "Linux is hard moment" when I followed some tutorials on the command line, and ended up breaking some packages in the quest to fix my unsigned kernels problem. Ended up installing the latest version of mint from scratch, definitely a learning experience, if not a frustrating one. If I was a normie I would have given up.
@@undertheoath Imma gonna tell you one thing I wish someone had told me when I was beginning, backup frequently. Secondly try not to reinstall OSes this is the beginning but once like me you start using it as a daily driver reinstallation will become increasingly infeasible so develop good package discipline, as long as possible use the package manager, if you build packages on your own then try to read the README thoroughly and see where the files are going.
@@Kiarie-mg9th I have found that using multiple hard drives solves all the problems with dual booting. Except the time one. The time is never right when I switch back and forth between Windows and Linux.
Nobody in programming or IT should ever give up at Linux because knowing your way around Linux is the quintessential IT skill. Knowing how to run your own servers is important.
No it's not important for programmers. Programming is not about making your own server or how to configure it. It's about problem solving. Server things it's much more about sys admins or devops.
unironically linux is a really good experience if you do basic computer stuff, like browsing, word, excel, (games through steam proton), and the more professional your work flow is the more you would have to stick to some "cooperate OS" yk windows and mac because of adobe or Microsoft, or some other proprietary software
@@vladyslavhlovatskyi1684 as a working programmer, knowing Linux is pretty useful, especially when you deal with terminal stuff which helps to setup your development environment
I got into Linux because I was sent to college with an old laptop with a broken Windows 10 preview install and no money to buy a Windows key. It was eithet Linux or Nothing. Nothing is too hard if there is no alternative.
People need to remember that often times we have YEARS of experience with proprietary operating systems, getting used to them, fixing them, and so on. And often times they're as complicated if not more complicated than Linux. So you can just expect to do the same right after picking up a new OS. It will take time. But if someone were to grow up with Linux I'm sure they'd find it as easy if not easier to use than proprietary ones. So it's certainly possible. You just need to stick to it. And keep your original goal in mind. Like you said
Yeah I mean it’s not even Linux that some people get that confused with. My partner has to use my laptop for work and I have to use Mac OS X for work ergo they have to use Mac OS X for work. And the amount of times that they claim it is worse than Windows simply because one thing is different is astonishing. So far it’s been because the folders were organised by name on the desktop and auto sorted, that apparently complicated things. I just turned it off 🤷 then it was cmd instead of cntrl, then it was cmd+DEL instead of just DEL to delete a file. But surprisingly they don’t really mind LibreOffice or any other free software so much so that’s good. Personally I’m really not a fan of the Microsoft way of things. I do believe I’m biased because I got into computers after my first Mac and not my first windows machine. So for me it’s almost blasphemy to say Windoze is better just because of a couple default settings and key bindings. To be clear though I much prefer my GNU/Freedom over Mac any day, but I still prefer Mac over windows any day too.
My first real experience with Linux was on an old 2Ghz Duel Core laptop which wasn't able to run Win7 well. So I installed Ubuntu MATE on it, and though I didn't like it in the beginning, but after 1 year I really like it. My new laptop duel boots it with Windows, though I barely use it. It's my intention to attempt an Arch installation or at least switch to Fedora or Manjaro soon, but for the moment Ubuntu MATE works good enough for me. I customized the panels and the theme to my exact taste, and I'm starting to use the Terminal more and more, learning a lot about Linux along the way.
@@WyvernDotRed Arch will teach you a lot about Linux and I'd definitely recommend it. The install is difficult but just know that there are multiple ways of going about it and it's far more important to understand exactly what your doing (partitioning, installing the boot loader, etc) than simply typing in a set of commends in the right order. That will make things a lot easier and teach you a lot about Linux too
James Campbell Exactly. Each step of the guide the user should click the hyperlinks on the Arch Wiki and read up on what it is they’re actually doing. Otherwise it’s a lot more confusing and you still have the opportunity to screw something up. I definitely screwed the GNU/Pooch a few times during installs.
I had something like this with Windows. Since birth basically I was on linux. Since my dad likes it more then anything by microsoft. One day my mom bought me a computer. I was like 15. It had Windows 7. I tried it. It was terrible. After a month or so I installed Ubuntu 14 on it.
Literally the same my dad is a Linux user so I've used it till I got my own computer it was very quickly that I dropped the windows shit all though I believed I dual booted it for some time untill I realised windows partions was just bloat
same, started using linux at 8, although when i got my windows laptop at 12 I can't lie, I started using windows lol. Now that I don't play videogames much anymore, I'm back on ubuntu though
@@anonymouswhite352 My dad WAS a Linux user. I started using Linux, then basically the whole family was dailydriving Win7 (incl. me), then I was dailydriving Win10, aand then the Win10 computer broke. I started to use an old computer with Xubuntu 20.04 and that's when I got back on the Linux train. The Win10 PC also magically fixed itself and I dual-booted it with Linux Mint. Fast-forward to today and I am single-booting Manjaro with a separate home partition on the Win10 PC. Also I have a cursed enovo laptop. (Running Manjaro) I use Arch, btw
@@charliekahn4205 unfortunately, I use the proprietary drivers. But I use it in conjunction with bumblebee because I have a laptop, and I would like to use both the integrated and the dedicated gpu's at the same time for different programs.
Honestly, had a pretty hard night, 4am and been thinking over a lot of what i'm doing in my life with my education and other things related to my future. Of all things to help me think clearly about how to approach certain issues i'm facing now i wasn't expecting it to be this that would help me figure those out at all. Thank you, this helped a lot lmao
what he says here is bullshit anyways. i am not a far left crazy person, but crap like this is why they come up with words like "ableism" and "gaslighting." The truth is that some things are too hard for some people, period. They give up because of learned helplessness, which evolved for us to stop wasting our time on things that are useless or hurt us. Not everyone gives up because they are lazy or addicted to having things easy. They sometimes give up because they literally cannot do it, especially if they have to do it on top of a bunch of other stressful expectations that we call "life." This is all abstract of course, not dealing specifically with doing any particular thing like learning linux. But sometimes people really are not able to do something, and there is no shame in "giving up" on that. We are all made differently.
seriously, while this might be the videomaker's viewpoint, it is kind of a dumb thing to say to any consumer. I guarantee that learning how to use a bar at the top of firefox is easier than learning a whole operating system (regardless if it is windows or mac or linux). If amazon had this attitude about its customers whenever they complained, amazon would not be a successful company known for excellent customer service. This sort of thing is equivalent to any company getting negative feedback from customers and blaming the customers, not themselves, and telling the customers to try harder. Maybe the people in the company think that the consumers are stupid, and they may or may not be right, but telling them that is not going to inspire anyone to keep trying. If Mental Outlaw really wants more and more people to use linux, it is stupid to frame his messaging like this. It is not shameful to give up, but it is shameful to shame the users/consumers, and things like that get pushback eventually.
We have a generation of people who were told that all they needed to do in order to do things that they could not do was to keep trying. They kept trying and kept failing, weakening their mental/emotional state. Then they found out that the far-left culture of victimhood accepts them for not being able to do things, for being who they are. It gives them vocabulary like "ableism" and uses terms like "gaslighting" to describe people who contradict their "lived experience" of trying and failing to do something that they cannot do. Now they seek revenge against the types of people who "gaslighted" them, via crazy identity politics. And since they were emotionally damaged from trying to do things they cannot do or from trying to be things that they felt like they were not, they either cannot see the blatant irrationality/logical contradictions/hypocrisy/insanity of their positions, or they do not care. Now these people want to mob and cancel you online for the smallest things. It is bad, but it is understandable. Society told them things that were not true, or expected things they could not give. Eventually, these people push back. Needless to say, telling anyone who is struggling that they just need to try harder (or implying that it is their fault for failing because they did not try hard enough) is a counterproductive message. It often does not work. Society is now paying the price for trying to push that message onto people. Sympathy, lack of judgment, real help -- those are the correct answers. That applies on an individual level, a company level, and a societal level. And on all 3 levels, we pay the price for giving the wrong answer.
Maybe you just had the wrong distro. There's a lot of options, try a few. Personally, I'll never use Ubuntu again after it bricked itself during a routine update. But there are things like Silverblue and nixOS now that greatly reduce that risk.
Agree with this. Forcing myself through my first couple of scuffed arch installs made me a lot more competent in troubleshooting linux in general, and made me switch full time. It has also prepared me for all the linux servers I will run into in future dev jobs.
good thing that kenny's channel has a filter installed so that we are able to see which honeypot accounts are actually feds, you really thought you could fool me "John Smith", hah
I once had a client that ran windows. She had a old PC, something like the one you had. I asked her if she would like to try running Linux Ubuntu. She was horrified. I asked her why and her answer will surprise you. She said that she had years of experience learning how to fix windows problems and didn’t what to give up on windows. 🥴 Of course she ended up loving Linux, in fact she bought a new laptop a year later the had Linux.
"She said that she had years of experience learning how to fix windows problems and didn’t what to give up on windows. " That's actually a pretty good reason. Glad she still went with *nix though.
I don't understand the argument "I don't want to relearn my operating system." I personally want my operating system to be as efficient and easy to use as possible. That's why I spend so much time learning Linux, and especially tiling window managers. Once you get used to them, it's very hard to go back. I'm willing to relearn my operating system as long as it's a significant change which makes it easier to use.
I have a dual boot with windows 11 for (VR) games and arch Linux with awesome wm as my main os. I'm only using awesome for a week now and I miss my shortcuts when I boot into windows, so I agree with this one, it's easier to use, once you figured it out. I was using arch for a long time tho before switching to awesome, just never tried to not use a de before
Counterpoint, my operating system is fine for my purposes, relearning everything and optimizing every detail would not be worth the effort expended, the gains would be severely limited by my knowledge of computing.
With all the pitfalls in getting Linux to do what you want it's often not apparent that you'll actually be more productive and better off. I'm trying to switch over right now and I have a science background with some programming and electronics experience and I'm struggling. Not least because of the elitists and delusional attitudes within the linux community. This whole "learning your operating system" only makes sense if you want to make it your hobby or if it's part of your job. For most it's a tool and most people driving cars aren't mechanical engineers and they shouldn't have to be to be able to drive. Linux is unfortunately still very much an OS by devs for devs, not so much users.
I applied this to installing gentoo in android phone, I thought that was too hard. Pretty easy, adb push /sdcard, root phone as you can, chrooting, nice. I got it. Next, I wanted to update the rom. Phone bricked.
Nope, not plug and play. One can't say these distro 'just work, period'. Sure they do most of the time, but not all of the time. Over the years I run into bugs in whatever distro I try. Sometime the update function just breaks and there is no plug n play fix. I can see when I go looking for help when the issue I'm having is a very common occurrence. One common problem with no plug n' play solution: on mint boot drive (partition) runs out of space, will not automatically remove old kernels. Even running the command in terminal all the guides tell you to try first (something like ‘autoremove’) doesn't free any space. There's never been an update that fixed this despite clearly many people running into the problem.
This is true, but people also just don't like change. Even if they didn't have to learn much of anything new I'm sure they'd shy away from it because people love sticking with what they're used to. I think it's good to practice being open to new things in all aspects of life
Human is as human does. To me this simply is about a pretty standard part of the human condition. Evolution got us here but there are some ingrained behaviors that aren’t the most useful for sure.
the thing is, when you need to go through windows VM everytime you want to run a program (and with that being unstable and you risk getting banned for doing so), then it beats the purpose of using linux to begin with. It's totally up to your use-case. If you don't play games, then linux is fine. Also, linux distros shouldn't take for granted that you already know all the commands etc. They should include tutorial and/or a big list of ALL the useful commands and what programs that you may want to use for a daily basis when you start up the distro. A big hand-holding. You shouldn't have to look it up on the internet. This will trigger a ton of linux users though, they will feel threatened that their "safe-haven" will be taken away by normies by simplifying it.
an alternative is a fixed point distro that won't require the average user to even touch the terminal outside abnormal use cases and windows and macOS like GUI's avalable pre-packaged into an iso.
@@aeropone and with Lutris and some minor tweaking that becomes a solid 95% in my experience. Problem is that other 5% usually are those so popular anti cheat games (personally I don't play them much). Hope things get better with the new easy anti cheat support.
You know, if you hit Windows + R, and type "cmd", the command line comes up. The commands haven't changed since the DOS days either. Commands not changing is not a Linux only thing, nor is the command line itself. My problem with the linux command line, or Linux programs in general, is that command or program names are so obscure or out there that a lot of the time they don't actually represent what they're supposed to be. As someone who gave up on Linux and went back to Windows, the breaking points for me were: 1) Spending 12 hours hunting dependencies and compiling a program for it to not work at all in the end because said program was not in a repository. 2) Going to compile a program from source after editing it only to find out the old compiler or an old library that was needed was no longer available anywhere on the internet making compiling the program impossible, making me realize that old programs will become useless as time goes on as dependencies remove and change old things. (I can still run Windows 95 programs in 10 just fine) 3) Why on earth are there like 6 binary folders?! The file structure makes no sense. If I want to back up a program it's a pain to include all the libraries with it to avoid what would happen in point #2. Everything just feels scattered everywhere and it's a huge mess. (Windows, you can expect everything to be in one folder when it installs, IF it installs) That said, Windows 10 is butts and the criticisms are valid. I run Server 2016. It's basically 10 without the BS. (No Cortana, no telemetry, no forced updates, no ads... It's beautiful) I use Linux on an old web browsing machine but for the things I actually wanna do I just can't use Linux. Windows is a hell of a lot easier and compatible with the software and hardware I want to use. I just wish Microsoft wasn't a butt...
Understanding Linux kind of requires a computing history course. There's a good reason for all of it, and it makes sense if you understand the evolution of how problems were solved as they came up, but just looking at this mountain for the first time from the outside is overwhelming and unintuitive to a lot of people. With Windows, we know the history because we've lived it. Every change to the layout of Office or the default desktop theme elicited an emotional reaction which cemented the lore of the technology into our memory. I think it's just as natural for people who have lived their lives on linux to be just as intimately familiar with their particular flavor of it. You bring up a good point though - If everything you want is in the distro's repository, linux is super easy, "apt/rpm/pacman/emerge (name of program)" and you've got it. Just like the Windows store is very convenient. Compiling obscure programs from source, however, will definitely send you on an adventure. For a lot of packages it's just a matter of typing ./configure / make / make install. The same could be said of windows, though. Have you ever tried compiling OpenSSL from scratch with Visual Studio? There's a lot of things you need to have on your system before you hit compile. If I want to back up a game I made and all its dependencies, I'd need the actual game code, a couple of my own libraries, libpng, OpenAL, glew, maybe SFML, and so on. Fortunately I do not fear these things disappearing from the internet any time soon, but that doesn't eliminate the complexity of all those things being tied together, and all this is running on Windows. And there's plenty of old dead projects with poor documentation and untraceable dependencies for windows, trust me lol. At some point I decided to start using one common folder to hold all the dependencies I ever need, as a matter of my own convention, so I could have a known relative path to #include from. Gee, that sounds a lot like /usr/local. Then there's the phenomenon of DLL hell, although that's more of an issue with installing binary packages rather than source distributions, and more of a problem in pre-vista windows. I remember when I bought a linksys network card for my windows 98 laptop, and the CD-ROM with the drivers on it thought it was a good idea to overwrite a critical system DLL with an older version which was missing several functions, making the machine unbootable. Microsoft's answer to DLL hell was the winsxs directory, a scheme of hard linking versioned libraries to symbolic names and tracking what programs need what version. In linux a very similar thing happens where programs can manually depend on "libSomething-1.2.3.so" - or just "libSomething" which is a symbolic link to the latest version (usually - you can link it to whatever version you want manually). But if you want to copy the program, sans installer, you'll need all those DLLs from system32 too. Or sysWow64, or winsxs... who knows, I guess you'll have to check the registry and see what classes it imports. Anyway, ever since Windows stopped being a DOS spinoff and ran everything on the NT architecture, windows and linux are really much more similar than many people would like to admit, the main difference being how it's presented to the user, and for coders, the names of the API calls. fork() vs CreateProcess(). Linux is full of little analogies and mental images that may not make sense unless you know the story. Windows tends to be more verbose. Honestly, I think NTFS access control lists are a more robust security mechanism than user/group/world permission flags. That's probably the most compelling reason to use it, aside from specific software compatibility, but that's more for server admins and company IT folks than home desktop users. There's stuff like LDAP for linux domains I guess. Sorry I'm rambling. I guess my point is, compare apples to apples. That windows 95 program has dependencies too, it just comes with an installer to copy them where they need to go and link their GUID into the registry. Linux programs have binary distributions as well, that's basically what the repository packages are, installers that are pre-configured with the directory structure of that distro. system32 is /bin, Program Files is /usr/bin, Users is /home (thank God it's not "Documents and Settings" any more), you get the point. You can install a program anywhere you want and change the shell search path, just like you can change the %PATH% environment variable in DOS and Windows. Those environment variables also tell the system where Windows itself is located, the user home folder, AppData, all that stuff. It's just that with Windows there's only one distro. At least in linux you don't have to make a %PATH% for every single folder in Program Files... that's why they combine binaries into one folder and just keep track of packages. A good source install with a configure script and makefile will track that info too. If you notice, in Windows now, most programs don't store their data in their "Program Files" location any more, they use the AppData folder. You can't just copy the program folder and get all the save data, things are "spread out". You just know where to look for them because you know how Windows does things. Directory structures can be learned, the only problem is the mental block of "this is dumb, why is it like this?" So, learn why. History. It's important. But hey, use whatever suits your needs best, pick the right tool for the right job (and the right user.) I'm not trying to be an evangelist, I use Windows most of the time myself, just trying to encourage an open mind. I really do think they're more similar than different.
@@DFPercush As a freshman learning GNU/Linux, one of the long term goals is to actually customize the desktop environment to the extent it resembles the Win7 experience I've had, as some of the stuff is handled pretty logically on Wintops. This includes creating a symbolic links directory with 'proper' naming, finding a file manager with a catfish like indexing search option, resemblence in the menu and keyboard shortcuts, and getting the right 'sysadmin tools' available in similar desktop envitonment places that share the looks. I've got to admit Im heavily used to right clicking some of the icons to tweak the display settings, or accessing and managing the in-built firewall rules via the control panel, but most of these things were touched because Windows' default config is default, instead of being 'safe'. Speaking on the case of Windows 7, a system preconfigured for safety measures only would come up with about as many difficulties for 'regular use' being checking out new applications or learning about them. The thing is, there are plenty more hidden checkboxes you can click through to unlock some of the functionalities unavailable by default, while most Linux DEs primarily focus on display settings (and are easier to reconfigure). Thus far, what I can say is troublesome (non graphical/visually unembedded logic) are the groups and privileges. Now, terming it as system administrating may be too much of a term, but monitoring the system and hardware activity is something I would consider as a sysadmin (root) role. Be it a desktop or a server. Mind you not, but even the lesser geeks do want to have an easy way to look up whats going on with the system. Thats why the XFCE I were using has had an alt ctrl del shortcut for the KSysGuardr, the terminal is opened with ctrl and r, the workspaces are disabled, and the show desktop panel shortcut is nicely placed in bottom right corner. Meanwhile, the Linux desktop environments advertised as being in the style of certain Windows versions are missing these key concepts, and the resemblence ends with replacing the icons. Not sure whether its grotesque, ignorance, someone'a unfinished project, or whether I should take it ironically as satire, but is outright wrong about what a Windows experience is. That being said, I often find the 'open source Linux community' to be totally neutral and skeptic towards feedback given by what can be labeled as target audience, and the feedback is, user experience. I hope Ill be able to make some tweaks here and there to customize the DE im using to be more 'shift friendly' and script installable for other people willing to explore the Unix ecosystem.
I'm a boomer, it's hard for me to use Windows instead, I don't know what the half of functionality in windows does and it's super hard to use build in apps without MAN pages and terminal where I can set cli params and do what I want
As probably many people said, RTFM. There are so many different ways to learn what certain commands/flags do. I don't remember finding good documentation on windows features or installed programs. With Linux I had multiple instances of "I never knew I can do that" after reading --help or wiki article (don't use man pages often when I have internet)
Exactly. Learning the Linux CLI is like learning Calculus: it opens your world to so many cool concepts and quick shortcuts. I've showed my brothers Linux and how fast using Linux/Unix really is. If you know what you're doing then Linux is far superior to Windows in almost every way -- proprietary software and a few games still don't work at all.
Your points are sound and accurate but you missed the most important part. You assume that people are always acting reasonable and rational. Your solution means nothing to them.
Yea. Some people refused to learn a new skill, their ignorance is preventing them from learning something. They're just comfortable what they had and its easy to doubt it rather then try new things. Its like an apple user saying that Andriods are to complex since they're used the simplicity of iOS interfaces.
@@InfernoPhoenixFX And there is people like me that try an iphone and get a seizure cause the ios directory tree makes no fucking sense compared to android.
@@rockytom5889 The iOS directory tree isn't meant to make sense, because it isn't meant to be open directly from a file browser. It is meant, instead, to be opened from iTunes where everything will show properly.
Yeah its real rational to whine about people not putting in the effort to use a tool. Its almost as if most people dont care. Linux nerds and IT people forget they are not the norm of users and never will be. Ive been amused by it for the last 20 years really. "10 year old linux config scrips still work" lol
I installed Ubuntu yesterday, my first time using Linux. It was so easy to install and customize, it was so smooth and using it is really easy. I get a lot more of performance out of my laptop and I do not longer have trouble with some drivers as I used to have with Windows! I'm loving it.
Can you explain the method you used to customize ubuntu to have quicklook and previewing files by pressing space? or being able to airdrop files over to another nearby computer? Linux seems to be incapable of doing these things.
@@Otome_chan311 , Nadie Quintero doesn't claim that he has that working, though Linux is definitely capable of these things. A preview can be the icon of a file when using the grid view in a file manager, or some file browsers can have a built in preview utility (there are more than just the default GNOME3 one). Though a lightweight program can also quickly show the file, and then be closed again. Linux Mint has an AirDrop like program called Warpinator, which can be installed in different distro's, though that's oviously not compatible with Airdrop. This can also be achieved with SSH, though that might be a bit too complicated for the casual user. Files can also be moved around using Bluetooth, as paired devices can share files, and a good 'ol USB stick works fine too. GNOME3 (Ubuntu's default desktop manager) lacks a lot of customization, but a different one like MATE (GNOME2) or KDE give a lot more options. These can be manually installed and configured on Ubuntu, but you can also install a different distro if that's too complicated. If you want an Ubuntu based one, they are called Ubuntu MATE and Kubuntu respectively. Kubuntu is good as well, and Linux Mint's Cinnamon desktop is also great! Ubuntu usually (*cough* *cough* snap) doesn't force these features to the user, and often they have to be installed separately. The thing about Linux is that it's INCREDIBLY customizable and that it isn't as bloated, meaning that the user has to install more programs for these tasks and can be overwhelmed by the options or assume Linux just cannot do it.
@@WyvernDotRed it is clear you have no idea what I'm asking and likely have never used Mac. You are talking about thumbnails. Which is.... Something I would automatically expect. The fact you think it's a feature is exactly why I'm complaining about Linux. The rest of your comment consistently misses the points I am making. A USB thumbstick is not wireless. Edit: quickly opening files is expected and not the feature I'm asking about when I talk about quickview and preview.
@@Otome_chan311 the point of this video and my comment is telling that Linux isn't one big nicely integrated BLOB (Binary Large OBject), but consist of separate parts that make it tick. In Linux you can easily look under the hood and see all the different programs from different developers controlling your computer, and interact with them. In MacOS and Windows (and iOS and Android), this is hidden from the user. But because the OS is made by one corporation, everything integrates nicely with previews and AirDrop and such. Linux doesn't have this nearly as much, and focuses more on giving the user full control over the OS, and not making it as convenient as possible. Though I have never used a Mac, I have used an iPad. Everything was nicely integrated, but I hated using it as I wasn't in control of the device and I couldn't do certain things. For the same reason I don't like Windows or Android. If you want everything to be nicely integrated like that, use something from Apple or Google. If you want to customize a lot and learn about how the OS works, use Linux.
I’m relatively new to Linux myself. Been using Ubuntu for a few months, and it’s phenomenal but also can be tedious at times. I’ve learned so much in that short time, and it was worth the sweat.
If you're enjoying learning Linux so far you should try something a little bit more advanced. I'll paste some recommendations. If you really want to really learn Linux like a pro (not difficult, just dedication, time and effort required, like with everything worth of your time): $ = normal user # = root 1. (I'm not an Arch fanboy, I don't use it and there're lots of distros I'd use before Arch). Install and use Arch, but make sure you know everything you're doing. If you don't know what you're doing run $ info If you aren't still sure $ info (repeat as much as necessary) If it doesn't work, $ man If you aren't still sure $ man (repeat as much as necessary) If it doesn't work, $ --help If you aren't still sure $ --help (repeat as much as necessary) 2. Switch to a Tiling Window Manager. I recommended Awesome to new users. ua-cam.com/video/qKtit_B7Keo/v-deo.html 3. Learn some programming. It's really easy. I recommend Python. It's one of the worst programming languages, but it's probably the easiest one and once you know Python you can learn way more easily any programming language. There're plenty of tutorials out there. ua-cam.com/video/rfscVS0vtbw/v-deo.html
@@Jorge-xf9gs There is so much nonsense in that comment, it's hard to wrap my head around. If your operating system works and runs the programs you're using, there's no reason to switch. If programming is "easy" why are some programmers paid hundreds of thousands of dollars while others flunk out of CS? Programming easy things is easy, programming hard things is hard. If Python is "one of the worst programming languages", why is it the #1 in scientific computing and ML by far? Are people suffering a collective delusion? It doesn't seem like you're actually using your computer to get anything done.
@@Mayank-mf7xr Judging from his comment he is either: a sys admin and can't conceptualize that anyone does anything else than him or he doesn't actually use computers for anything and is simply having a sort of perverse love affair with his cpu.
My introduction to Linux began with RH5 at work. We needed sniffers to diagnose network problems but only had some old Dell workstations that handle a maximum of 256meg of ram. The default install of Windows NT 4 could handle that hardware but it was discontinued. Windows 2000 took nearly all the ram just for itself. We asked for an exception to allow just the network group to try a lightweight o/s and the management said yes! None of us knew a damn thing about Linux we were determined to try. After many failures and trials we did it! Then the corporate culture took over the entire project with everyone claiming that “they” had actually done all the work. Never mind the typical RTFM response on Linux blogs and the worn out h/w everything I had done, mostly alone, was being belittled or stolen. That soured me to the point I started over using XP and eventually those machines were all that was left. Yes, learning what I could wherever I could was a helluva lot of fun. It gave me confidence to try other things too. But I’ll never be good at politics and I’m just as proud of that!
Windows 8 was when I started to seriously consider Linux. The UI change was so bad. Windows 10 went back a little, but came with all spying possible. I switched to Linux for private use. There's a lot to learn and remember, but it feels so much better to be in control and not constantly monitored.
I want to move to Linux, but stay on Windows for the games. They say nowadays 80-90% of games will work, but what if some of my games don't. I'll try it in a while to test things out.
Look into Proton. Your steam games work on Linux. Gabe Newell is funding this for the steam deck (it uses linux too) so now everyone has to support Linux or theyll be caught behind competition @@Iosaiv
@@MrCmon113 Can you though? Can we trust Microsoft here when their intent is clearly hostile? They keep pushing Teams and Edge onto every machine and resetting controls with updates, and that's just what users can easily see. Heinous company. Linux is perfect for peace of mind. As long as I don't try to pull off any exotic commands on a whim.
You are so correct in your giving up theory; it happens all the time and then 10 years later people can do anything for themselves. You really see it when a hurricane strikes where a number of people are waiting for the "professionals" to fix their houses. Meanwhile, you patched your house up enough to keep your family dry and cool. Thanks for the video.
I love this style of video, you look something relivent to Linux, and applied it to life as a whole. Simply awesome, should make more videos like this, keep it up :)
Woah typing sudo and some weird command to install a program!? And I even have to remember my password?? That requires a semi-functional brain... I'm out.
@Deon Denis Linux isn't "hard". It's nonfunctional. For example: it is impossible in linux to have a quicklook/preview style functioning similar to mac os. You just can't do it.
It was worth learning how to install Arch for my privacy. I am already a bit technically advanced than most but hey I learned a ton in the process. My first try was with Ubuntu in virtual box. Then following a ton of tutorials like how to get obs or playing Steam games (that are supported on Linux) I have yet to learn how to install Gentoo.
I love this talk. It just makes sense. This gave me inspiration to try again adapting to Linux based environment. Also it gives a great insight into human behaviour in general. What made me give up last time with Linux was my inability to make some games run properly in a reasonable amount of time. I had to boot in kernel mode to manually install gpu drivers (at the time it had to be done that way in with the distro I used), configure paths to configuration files and generally had to look up everything and apply settings that I didn't know how they work or what they are used for. Finally I manage to run it and it worked but I had some terrible input lag and I just saw how this would take another huge chunk of time to fix. And lastly, Also I used Visual Studio to work on my programming endeavors and adapting to a new IDE or building one from scratch felt too bothersome and not very worthwhile. When I get a new computer, I'm setting it up with linux again no excuses.
And you dont do that, right? Sure you can't alternate visual studio, it's just best IDE miles beyond others. Also as MSDN only in wet dreams of linux users. It is objective reality.
Nobody can fail at Linux, but some programs that have an equivalent on Linux are just not quite the same as how it runs on Windows. If you're used to certain programs, certain keyboard shortcuts, certain settings, then it's tedious to configure Linux to work that way. But I really appreciate all your videos and especially your point of view on security and privacy in Linux vs Windows.
I ran into many roadblocks when I first installed linux half a lifetime ago (I was 17) "what the hell is a 'mount point'?" "Oh, X Windows? So I can have Windows on my Linux?" "Why can't I write to my NTFS partition?" ... and so on. I learned a little over about 2 or 3 years and when I was 19 or 20 I asked somewhere - can't remember where - what the hardest distro was. Top 2 answers were LFS and Gentoo. I went with Gentoo. I also never looked back, save for the times I decided to do some testing with wine.
> "Oh, X Windows? So I can have Windows on my Linux?" This gave me a nice laugh. Having myriads of questions similar to these is almost a mandatory experience when switching to a "deepish" linux distro.
You can't write to a NTFS partition with hibernated Windows on it. This is to prevent data loss. Windows let me mount it no problem (I had put in a Windows drive from a different PC) and when I booted the second Windows everything written was gone. Luckily nothing important. I guess Microsoft doesn't understand its own file system.
I see you're teaching a good lesson by taking linux as an example. You are very smart if you analyse behaviour patterns and draw logical conclusions from it. Use your powers for good!
Tips to adopt Linux: 1-Use Virtual Box with Linux in Windows. Set the shared folder to access the Windows files inside Linux. 2-Define the set of tools for your working profile that is common for both Linux and Windows, for example Libre Office is common for both operating systems, and whenever possible, use it inside Linux in the virtual box. 3-When you feel confident, install Linux in your machine, yet make your computer dual boot, keeping Windows at hand. Open Suse installer automatically recgnize Windows and build the dual boot during installation. Just prepare a USB installer with the Suse 'Image Writer': download this program and give the path for the Suse .iso, then load the USB. Boot the computer and install the Linux (F2 to set the boot for the USB). Open Suse has the coolest KDE (user interface) enviorement out there. I hope it helps.
Just wanted to come back and say, thanks for making this type of content. I have been learning linux for what feels like around 9-10 months now because of your videos. I started out with Peppermint, moved over to Manjaro and Garuda, then to Arch. I'd like to learn more about servers in the near future, and I'm working on building an actual PC instead of using this 2015 MSI laptop with an nvidia video card. On the new one, I'll be ditching windows entirely. I'll probably keep windows on my old laptop, and I definitely will keep the laptop to tinker around with, but my main objective is to keep building knowledge about other OS's and see what I like. So far, Arch has been a ton of fun and I definitely had some moments like you mentioned in the video where I wanted to just give up. I'm incredibly glad that I never stopped though, because there has not been a single problem that I have not been able to fix so far. I'm also getting much better at identifying problems and finding quick solutions (fuck search engines, reddit, UA-cam and the arch wiki are the best places to go) I'll DEFINITELY be trying gentoo out, but probably not on my new machine.
You need a podcast bro! I love listening to your stuff because it applies to all of my life. I love to hear what you have to say about linux, privacy, politics, philosophy or really anything else. I actually use a tweaked version of UA-cam to listen to your videos while I work. UA-cam just sucks up battery life. But seriously make podcast on Spotify or something!
I came here for linux but stayed for the point you made about failure becoming a habit. This was not intentional, but you made one of the most motivational speeches I have ever heard.
Proffesionals on Linux: Use what's difficult, never give up, there is a lot to gain for learning difficult stuff, if you really can't learn linux, there are easier version of Linux to start with, no OS is the best or flawless, they all have their different uses and purposses, no one is forced to learn linux anyways since there are other OS to use and if it's even for its unique stuff no one is missing anything important by not knowing Linux but it's good to learn new stuff like Linux since there is a lot it can be used for. Averages on Linux: I use this because is good for server stuff, scripts, easy to do programs and installations, functionality between things, once you learn the over complicated stuff and it's limits off course, it's a good tool, but I learned it because i needed Linux. Begginers: I use Linux as an OS and maybe for it's server utilities and programming and all of that complicated stuff, I may be learning how to do that from pure will to learn new stuff or I may need Linux in the future, they say Linux is a good tool, I may be liking it or hating it, maybe I keep going or give up. The Linux guy you hear everywhere: If you don't use Linux you are a Windows Returd and you are oblivious to the world I am superior because command saves 2 seconds compared to windows 1000 steps to install thing (when it's actually 5 steps).
@Zacman X well, that's relative, for "regular users" LibreOffice is more than enough, for "regular users" Gimp can be more than enough too, I'm not sure AutoCAD is used by "regular users". Of course you could argue that some specific thing require MS Office or Photoshop, but I don't thing that those are "regular user" features. "regular users" only use multimedia, a browser and basic offimatic. All of those are more than supported by Linux supported and native software. I've even used Electronic CAD on Linux without a hitch.
This is something you'll never hear linux users talk about because they're too busy troubleshooting forks and compatibility software to literally just run one game or one piece of software. Its quite hilarious how none of them seem to mention the outward, directy incompatibility most commonly used software has with Linux. "B-B-But my officelibre!!!! My open sourced clone software!!! Its better!!! Waaah!" Yeah, it sure is, anyways, get back to me when you solve the five errors that just showed up with that. Good luck!
I agree with the sentiment, just want to add that you should do things first and foremost for yourself, because even if you become half man half linux and never even install a GUI for your distro, you might still need to learn the new Windows, because your job uses it, or whatever other arbitrary reason. Point is, you didn't give up and learned linux and that was your choice and journey. On a side note, I never understood GUI complaints, before Win 7 I had my important programs on quicklaunch, since Win 7 I just type the first 1-3 letters into the start menu and press enter. Plus beside the new settings nonsense you can still open run and type in "control".
I started using Linux now as I have an old dual core computer with only 2gb ram. Loved Mx Linux xfce , it runs smoothly. KDE is feature rich and better looking and is lighter than xfce. I'm learning 😊
I remember when I was messing around with my T61 and I was trying to install gentoo, then tried mint and decided to call it quits because things just weren't working. I was turned off by a lot of the Linux noob hate on forums where I was trying to find information on, but your videos have been really informative and I think I'm going to give linux another shot, because a. Windows is horrible slow on that poor machine, and b. I actually do prefer how Linux works and feels to windows. I'll give this comment an update when I'm done EDIT: Was able to install and configure Xubuntu on the T61 without it breaking and all my shit being corrupted. Fairly happy and confident to continue exploring with linux.
The ironic thing is that if you make it past your first couple months, you'll be at the point where if you went back to MacOS or Windows, you'll be bitching and moaning about how unusable those systems are. If you come to Linux and don't immediately give up, the chances that you are going to be a lifelong convert are extremely high.
Too right! Best motivation talk I've heard; no bullshit. Thankfully there's a TON of good Linux info out and the old days of "RTFM N00B!" are pretty much done.
Watched this video a couple weeks ago. Motivated me to dedicate the new SSD that I got exclusively for Arch Linux, which I had tried and given up on at around this time last year. It's still too soon to tell if I'm going to completely stick with it, but the fact that I still haven't switched back to Windows even once up to this point is very promising. So thanks for this video. You should know that it had a tangible positive influence on someone.
@@valerabaglej7437 systemd is a service manager, and systemd was pretty hated by the community and created a big controversy when it was choosen as the default service manager in Arch Linux
I first tried out Linux in 2003 with Red Hat 8 on a desktop. But moving to Linux on laptops became extremely difficult until about 2014 or so because of the evil Broadcom wireless chipset. I'm so happy it is not a standard anymore and have been using Linux exclusively since 2019 (and hoping to carry that over to my mobile devices soon because of the PinePhone and PineTab),
I used linux for like 2 years on a macbook air. I only used Linux because I hated MacOS more & couldn't install Windows. Well after that experience I had a profound realization. I love Windows. However everything you say about Linux is 100% correct & on a logical level I accept that you are right, however on an emotional level I will be happier using Windows cause I'm comfortable with it.
Maybe it's too hard to use a terminal? Or to use a command line? I'm sure, this is true for many people. Surely it's hard to dive into the endless internet to find solutions for problems, which nobody else had before. Often it seems like that. It's hard to get answers, that won't help or that are that way, that you have to throw away your hardware and buy another one. Or answers, which lead into traps. And sarcastic or frustrating answers without solutions ... I remember the last time I installed Linux. I changed the wallpaper on the desktop. Because of this, the system did no more start up, after shutting down. Sounds strange, isn't it? But true. The wallpaper was not on the system drive and the drive containing the wallpaper was not mounted, when the wallpaper had to be loaded. So the screen left black and the system was waiting for the wallpaper forever. No error message, no reaction, no anything ... that problem was hard, to figure out. It took me 2 weeks. Today - one year later - I'm still trying to figure out, how to make my gaming keyboard, my gaming mouse and my gaming headset working on Linux. Not for gaming - I need the special features of this devices for CAD functions and I like to listen 5.1 on my headset. The microphones sound is cristal clear, it works perfect for IP telephony and I like also the special light effects on all devices. But not on Linux. It's hard to make it working. I didn't make it yet, but I still keep trying ...
I would say the main problem with solving difficult issues in linux isn't that its difficult, but the fact that there are alot of issues that just haven't been encountered and solved. Like for windows, if there is an issue, most likely someone has already encountered it on your specific version and has posted a fix. For linux however the distro variations combined with smaller userbase mean that I have encountered many undocumented issues myself, and fixing those can not be expected from an average user.
Damn, dude, this is just the video I needed right now. Was living in easy mode again and it's important for my mental health right now that I do stuff. I concluded I need to proactively make my life now. This is just the boost I needed. Very important too. Might install Linux in a while too, although I am happy Windows finally keeps working, because I messed up with Linux. I can do it.
"Linux is hard"? Here's a solution that doesn't take 13 minutes to explain: Switch over to Linux Mint. You literally never need to use the command-line interface (CLI). Not once. If you do then you are on a very small list of users that have needed to. Everything works out of the box. If you want a nice desktop environment (DE) then install Linux Mint Cinnamon: www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=281 If you want a challenge that forces you to learn Linux then install Manjaro. You'll need to understand the basics of a "rolling distro" and how to use Time Shift. Both of these concepts are actually very simple. Here's a basic explanation: A rolling distro is basically what Windows 10 is. You don't need to re-install a whole new OS to use a newer version, like going from version 19.1 to 20.0. Time Shift is an extremely easy-to-use application that saves your settings. Let's say you changed your desktop background and added some shortcuts onto your desktop. And then, for whatever reason, your OS crashes. Oops! Well, no worries, you can restore those settings and your OS by Restoring from a save you have in Time Shift. If you want a beautiful DE then install Manjaro KDE: manjaro.org/downloads/official/kde/
Linux is awesome! If you ever run in to a problem you can just go search and you'll find at least 5 solutions! Sure, two of those solutions may be deprecated since kernel 3.3, one will likely break something else on the system, one will be for a completely different distro, desktop or BSD, while all five will be declared 'the wrong way to do it' by someone with a thesis length write up to back it up, but you'll find solutions to the problem if you just look!
I was just wanted to say thanks this video didnt just help me with daily driving arch linux it even helped me with: single gpu passthrough learning coding school becoming much more confident and im really glad i watched this video :)
You get it. I don't even know why I started using it, but I never stopped, and I think the possibility of improving is the reason why (while on Windows, you really can't ever be that good), so I became a decently advanced user eventually, by always trying new things. People said Arch was more challenging, so I used Arch. People memed Gentoo as being a difficult distribution, so I installed it and used it. I did take breaks and gave up on a few things, but the difference is that I always came back to them later, better equipped to get things done, because that's what I tend to do, because at the end of the day, the whole appeal of being a human is improving so you can do impressive things and not be some boring asshole like most people are.
I gotta tell you, I've been using windows since I was around 7, from 3.1 over MSDOS to 7/10, and - while I probably did have to re-learn stuff, I never found myself thinking "oh fuck me, here we go looking for element X/tool Y again". The transition from 3.1 to 95 - I was so young I enjoyed the learning, to 98 I still had no dialup so everything felt identical to me, XP was great and an easy transition, and I didn't use vista or anything till 7, which was another smooth transition (they managed the "always online" crap good enough to make me thing, at the time, that it was a great idea). Now, believe me, I despise windows - I got a WHEA issue which is "windows exclusive", but I got to praise MS's engineers. While they do change plenty, they are amazing in making you think they haven't changed nothing. This is not to say Linux upgrades are hard to get used to - but rather that microsoft managed the transitions (for the most part, ignoring vista) so well, that they succeeded in implementing the idea that an OS switch is too much hassle into most of their costumer base.
It's mostly because Windows is an OS family, and Linux is divided into various distros, which have their own subdistros (as in distros that are based on other distros).
@@GumSkyloard Well, I guess if someone went over to a certain distro and stuck to it, they will find themselves at home, that is - updates will be seamless. The issue is the mindset and the pen mentality windows is packaged with, though, like I said - their psychologists or marketing people (design people) are great at making people forget there's a choice until they're fully dependent.
I need it this video, i was considering passing to linux for months and this video really give me the inspiration that I need it. I can't wait to take the challenge!
Linux these days is easier to use than Windows. It's also more powerful than Windows. My 67 year old brother was going nuts trying to use a Windows 10 or 11 system to do e-mail, facebook and web browsing. (He has some problems.) UI inconsistencies, constant ads, notifications and updates were driving him to distraction. I switched him to Linux Mint where the UI is more reminiscent of WinXP or Win7 and he's happy as a clam.
5:07 Not much, Classic Shell ftw ;) Windows ricing was and is still a thing btw. Sort of related, checked out DA only to find decades of customization files lost due to the removal of categories... F
On a Windows system, each installed application is isolated within its own private folder tree. The only runtime libraries commonly shared among multiple Windows apps are Microsoft .NET API's and the like, so in practice all dependency and version conflicts are rooted in that single monolithic source. As a result, Windows users typically blame Microsoft when something goes wrong with their system, unless they have reason to believe some errant app installed itself improperly. For their part, Microsoft is happy to take the blame by default, since it reinforces users' feeling of dependency on Microsoft. The difference with modern Linux systems is that package dependency and permission conflicts can arise between dozens of independently installed apps and services, and there is no monolithic organization to blame for the resulting state of anarchy. Software packages are typically downloaded from random online servers for free, as-is with no implied warranties. Documentation is likewise crowd-sourced at random, with haphazard dating and ad hoc version control. Speak with Linux advocates and you'll find that this is exactly the state of affairs they prefer, which is why it will never be replaced by anything other than endlessly iterated versions of itself. Of course, the same conclusion applies to Windows as well, though for diametrically opposing reasons.
(I'm aware this post is three years old. Just posting in case someone stumbles on it and sees it upvoted and unchallenged.) The description of "modern Linux systems" in the comment is almost completely opposed to reality. Nearly all Linux users depend on their distribution's package management. Linux has voluminous documentation, and its community invented the concepts and idioms used in modern version control.
Here's the issue with your advice... Most people aren't hobbiests who are super interested in their operating system. Just like there are plenty of people who aren't super 'into' cars, but they just need a simple, reliable car to get them from point A to B, most people are this way with their operating system. They're not big into modifying their operating system or with getting the best 'workflows'; they just want something that will open an internet browser, play some music files, print some shipping labels, and maybe type up a document or two. Just as you probably don't want to learn everything there is to know about plumbing in order to simply use your toilet, most people don't want to have to spend their time learning the ins and outs of their operating system in order to do the same things they could have done on a different OS like Windows or Mac without the learning curve. It's nice that you enjoy your operating system, but for most people it's simply a tool they don't want to have to spend their time to think about. I think most people would be better off with a very simple to use OS that can be operated pretty much exclusively through the VGUI like Mint.
Call me a masuchist but I like PowerShell quite a bit. Unlike Bash/sh you can write a more or less understandable script without fancy syntax and you can work in an object-oriented fashion which means no parsing text with grep, awk and whatnot which to this day I still can‘t wrap my head around. And the clear Ver-Noun structure of the commandlets are also pretty nice. That said, because in *nix everything is just an executable, it makes it actually more akin to cmd imo. And still I‘m a big fan of the Bash and use WSL at work for my command line needs where PowerShell or cmd don‘t cut it.
A tech blogger I follow has recently been arguing that PowerShell is better than Unix like shells. But personally, I don't think I can live without Zsh.
Oh man, that's why you're my favorite youtube channel, I gave up with linux 2 times, but it didn't last a week before I reinstalled and tried again, I got used to follow step by step without understanding what was going on in the tutorial, you can't do that while using linux, but still I'm improving.
Even as a software developer, I have to say that Linux is too complicated for Desktop use. I use Kubuntu 22.04. - No standard GUI-Way of installing software (apt vs dpkg) - No clear connections to file endings - Complicated rights management (UAC vs sudo) - Lack of driver support or dogmatic refusal to integrate proprietary but polished drivers - Third party devices stop working out of the blue (faulty or incompatible drivers). Especially bluetooth and Wifi. - Basically can't use it without the terminal or your first point of advice is the terminal - No Microsoft Office easily installable (not my problem but a deal breaker for less techy people)
Discover exists. But, as a newbie, I think a GUI is not needed because installing using a terminal is easier than installing from a browser under windows.
Having to reinvent the wheel only to learn that it's wonky, unstable and not as good as the wheel you had before, is not a compelling reason for people to switch to Linux. I think it's important to be aware of the differences that Linux users often take for granted. The different software, the incompatibilities, the unfamiliarity with file structure, the literal THOUSANDS of different distros, each with their own quirks, benefits and drawbacks (arguably the key factor in deciding whether Linux is for you). You have to understand that many of these people have day jobs where they're going in to work on a Windows-based PC. They know the environment, how it operates and how it works. They're not going to suddenly switch to Linux without a good reason, especially considering how much software they may already have which will no longer function under their new OS. If you're setting up a PC for your grandma to use, you don't really care. You can install anything. She's just going to run a web browser and buy knitting needles and wool from amazon, why would she care? But for anyone using their PC on the regular, it's a landmine. Even knowing the ropes, I still find incompatibilities, dependency problems or outright frustrations with the OS at times. Sure, Windows has those too, but I don't have to trawl through literal dozens of pages of geek speak to find the answer. Getting answers to a Linux problem means answering a dozen questions about your distro, your setup, your drivers. Questions beginners often find daunting even on Windows. Windows users can often just run a troubleshooter and fix it in moments, and even if they can't there are much easier to understand guides to follow than there are for Linux users simply because of the fixed standards. I think it's really hard for regular Linux users to put themselves in the shoes of a total beginner.
Honestly I've never even thought of adjusting my mouse wheel speed because it's always just worked (been using Linux exclusively since 2016) but it's unfortunate that otherwise basic features are sometimes missing on common Linux distros. Linux is a community project and doesn't always have the adhesion and order that an OS strictly developed by a single company might. A lot of features are developed by the users or small groups based on importance to them. Sorry to hear about your experience though, hopefully it gets fixed so that other people don't have to worry about it
love your content brother. not many people think for themselves now-a-days. (speaking of previous videos as well as this one). the way to explain your logic is excellent and sound
I started out using Arch Linux, and my experience was not so much that Linux in general is too hard, but rather that proprietary Nvidia graphics drivers suck
Uh, proprietary Nvidia drivers suck indeed lol.
Had to apply a random patch from internet to KWin in order to make it work due to what looks like a bug in their latest drivers.
@@skedyt Are ya trying to overflow someone's pc with that name? 🤣
@@skedyt you gave up after 6 hours? weak
@Maxblau exactly. The wiki and other guides online are so well written that it doesn’t really matter if you’re a beginner as long as you’re decent with computers
amd gang
do not be fooled, the footage you are seeing was procedurally generated by an AI
Yeah this guy is too hot
@@Yuriyalloween oh look the FBI is saying by itself
dame da ne
Feds always in these rooms sheesh
So...are you one of those morons who trolls a live stream claiming' pre recorded" asininity? -_-
Came for Linux advice. Stayed for life advice.
Lmao
true true
This lecture should've been taught in government schooling.
@@Vermino government and proper education will never go hand in hand in a state system. (Capitalism)
Same
"When windows.. i don't know 11 or 12 whatever new version... whenever it comes out, i guarantee you there's gonna be changes to the UI, they're gonna move things around ya and you're gonna have to spend time learning that anyway."
THIS aged like fine *_Wine_* .
[Edit: 10:01 is when the quote starts]
I Thought the same thing.
When Winndows 11 is Windows 10 but with additional UI issues
Still waiting if I'll have to learn to wait again for one and only control panel instead of this W8/w7 ugly UI
Don't forget to throw your computer in the bin and buy another one that is currently unavailable due to semiconductor shortages, because Winbloat11 won't boot without it... 😒
@Jean Sanchez I remember even as a kid growing up on win7 I hated how 10 looked since it didn't grow on me. now I feel the same about 10 and 11.
"I don't really know how to do anything, I just google when things go wrong!" -- My Mom about managing her linux machine. I haven't had to do anything in years.
I have solved ALL my Linux problems by just googling them. If you have an issue on a mainstream distro, thousands of other people have experienced the same issue, and at least 1 person has made a forum post about it, and it has the solution. And usually all you have to do is copy and paste something into the terminal. Or maybe edit a text file. That's it!
And then some huys from 10 yrs ago says "thx guys but i fixed it"
This is also how a lot of software engineers do their job lmao
Sounds like a horror story. Your mom using Linux all alone? She'd be ahead of her generation I assume 😂 !!!
All fun and games until she copy pastes "sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root" (Considering she's an admin)
Linux is super easy. It is unlearning Windows that's difficult.
Or osx. Windows users are Atleast somewhat competent
plug a new drive in windows: works instantly
plug a new drive in linux: "you don't own this drive, root does..." then needing to research how privileges work.
@@ashishpatel350 there's a few similarities with mac and linux... i'd say a mac user could convert easier than a windows user could.
based af
@@M4tth2w lmao somebody is un educated
I'm a new-ish Linux Mint user. I had a "Linux is hard moment" when I followed some tutorials on the command line, and ended up breaking some packages in the quest to fix my unsigned kernels problem. Ended up installing the latest version of mint from scratch, definitely a learning experience, if not a frustrating one. If I was a normie I would have given up.
this is the exact reason that backups are important
Nothing compares with the feeling you get after fixing a major issue
That's when you know you're officially a user of Unix systems. When you completely break your operating system but don't give up.
timeshift is your friend
@@undertheoath Imma gonna tell you one thing I wish someone had told me when I was beginning, backup frequently. Secondly try not to reinstall OSes this is the beginning but once like me you start using it as a daily driver reinstallation will become increasingly infeasible so develop good package discipline, as long as possible use the package manager, if you build packages on your own then try to read the README thoroughly and see where the files are going.
Fun fact: when I first installed linux, I broke windows, in the end I decided to delete the windows partition. So yeah I couldn't give up. Lol
@@Kiarie-mg9th I have found that using multiple hard drives solves all the problems with dual booting. Except the time one. The time is never right when I switch back and forth between Windows and Linux.
My first ever time with installing Linux was with Ubuntu, and it ruined my windows partition to the point that it was difficult to reinstall Windows.
Same
@Watcher you should read about MBR and GPT formats and I think next time things will be easy.
@@tylerdean980 the freaking windows still tries to put the bootloader on the drive the other system is on
What we learned short after Windows 8 came out: How to re-install Windows 7.
There's this application called ModernMix which makes Win8.1 actually pretty good.
@@charliekahn4205 just use windows 10 lol
@@Belissimo-T no thanks. I'll stick to an OS the kernel was built to handle.
Modern Mix + OpenShell = Windows 8.1 but good
@@charliekahn4205have fun spending 5 hours just to get a game that keeps crashing to work
Nobody in programming or IT should ever give up at Linux because knowing your way around Linux is the quintessential IT skill. Knowing how to run your own servers is important.
I use it as a desktop OS. No programming planned, just looking for a smoother experience. IT is not the only place Linux can work well in.
@@sebastianwendl603 True, but no one implied that
No it's not important for programmers. Programming is not about making your own server or how to configure it. It's about problem solving. Server things it's much more about sys admins or devops.
unironically linux is a really good experience if you do basic computer stuff, like browsing, word, excel, (games through steam proton), and the more professional your work flow is the more you would have to stick to some "cooperate OS" yk windows and mac because of adobe or Microsoft, or some other proprietary software
@@vladyslavhlovatskyi1684 as a working programmer, knowing Linux is pretty useful, especially when you deal with terminal stuff which helps to setup your development environment
I got into Linux because I was sent to college with an old laptop with a broken Windows 10 preview install and no money to buy a Windows key. It was eithet Linux or Nothing. Nothing is too hard if there is no alternative.
In ebay win10 pro keys is 5 bucks lolz
Implying Windows actually requires you to register it
@furesuka distrohopped until i settled on Fedora
@@Goodmanperson55 Any particular reasons you prefer it to Solus? Both are semi-bleeding edge.
@@dawkot6955 wasn't really aware of solus at the time
I started using arch Linux and fell in love. The amount of freedom is amazing!
not to mention the Arch wiki
The choice that makes you more independent is often harder than anything else, but it is _the_ better choice
- A linux man of culture
@@SimGunther wise words
Totally agree with you!
>freedom
>systemd
Pick one.
People need to remember that often times we have YEARS of experience with proprietary operating systems, getting used to them, fixing them, and so on. And often times they're as complicated if not more complicated than Linux. So you can just expect to do the same right after picking up a new OS. It will take time. But if someone were to grow up with Linux I'm sure they'd find it as easy if not easier to use than proprietary ones. So it's certainly possible. You just need to stick to it. And keep your original goal in mind. Like you said
Your theory is right, I would know. I've been using linux since I was 12/13. Had only used windows for ~6 months beforehand.
Yeah I mean it’s not even Linux that some people get that confused with. My partner has to use my laptop for work and I have to use Mac OS X for work ergo they have to use Mac OS X for work. And the amount of times that they claim it is worse than Windows simply because one thing is different is astonishing. So far it’s been because the folders were organised by name on the desktop and auto sorted, that apparently complicated things. I just turned it off 🤷 then it was cmd instead of cntrl, then it was cmd+DEL instead of just DEL to delete a file. But surprisingly they don’t really mind LibreOffice or any other free software so much so that’s good. Personally I’m really not a fan of the Microsoft way of things. I do believe I’m biased because I got into computers after my first Mac and not my first windows machine. So for me it’s almost blasphemy to say Windoze is better just because of a couple default settings and key bindings. To be clear though I much prefer my GNU/Freedom over Mac any day, but I still prefer Mac over windows any day too.
My first real experience with Linux was on an old 2Ghz Duel Core laptop which wasn't able to run Win7 well.
So I installed Ubuntu MATE on it, and though I didn't like it in the beginning, but after 1 year I really like it.
My new laptop duel boots it with Windows, though I barely use it. It's my intention to attempt an Arch installation or at least switch to Fedora or Manjaro soon, but for the moment Ubuntu MATE works good enough for me.
I customized the panels and the theme to my exact taste, and I'm starting to use the Terminal more and more, learning a lot about Linux along the way.
@@WyvernDotRed Arch will teach you a lot about Linux and I'd definitely recommend it. The install is difficult but just know that there are multiple ways of going about it and it's far more important to understand exactly what your doing (partitioning, installing the boot loader, etc) than simply typing in a set of commends in the right order. That will make things a lot easier and teach you a lot about Linux too
James Campbell Exactly. Each step of the guide the user should click the hyperlinks on the Arch Wiki and read up on what it is they’re actually doing. Otherwise it’s a lot more confusing and you still have the opportunity to screw something up. I definitely screwed the GNU/Pooch a few times during installs.
I had something like this with Windows.
Since birth basically I was on linux. Since my dad likes it more then anything by microsoft.
One day my mom bought me a computer. I was like 15. It had Windows 7. I tried it. It was terrible.
After a month or so I installed Ubuntu 14 on it.
Luckyyyyy
yo your dad is so cool
Literally the same my dad is a Linux user so I've used it till I got my own computer it was very quickly that I dropped the windows shit all though I believed I dual booted it for some time untill I realised windows partions was just bloat
same, started using linux at 8, although when i got my windows laptop at 12 I can't lie, I started using windows lol. Now that I don't play videogames much anymore, I'm back on ubuntu though
@@anonymouswhite352 My dad WAS a Linux user. I started using Linux, then basically the whole family was dailydriving Win7 (incl. me), then I was dailydriving Win10, aand then the Win10 computer broke. I started to use an old computer with Xubuntu 20.04 and that's when I got back on the Linux train. The Win10 PC also magically fixed itself and I dual-booted it with Linux Mint. Fast-forward to today and I am single-booting Manjaro with a separate home partition on the Win10 PC. Also I have a cursed enovo laptop. (Running Manjaro)
I use Arch, btw
You know what is really difficult, actually deleting Cortana
Deleting Cortana is much more difficult than installing Arch Linux.
You can simply deinstall it.
Try microsoft onedrive. It’s everywhere. Installed office? Guess who’s back!
When it comes to nvidia drivers, I'm the most powerful person to ever exist.
Do you run proprietary first and then switch to Nouveau at a faster clock?
@@charliekahn4205 unfortunately, I use the proprietary drivers. But I use it in conjunction with bumblebee because I have a laptop, and I would like to use both the integrated and the dedicated gpu's at the same time for different programs.
@@favorite89103 I use proprietary Nvidia and FOSS Intel, managed with Prime Render Offload via the switcheroo-control utility.
Gimme your number real quick
That was a joke. Of appreciation. You dont have to give me your number 😅
For me it was always philosophy, it was hard in the beginning but then it was an enlightening experience
Bruh why you gotta flex on us with the GigaChad face at the starting of the video 😭
Can't I drink my soy latte in peace
😂😂
It's Giga Wakandian face
He looks like a manly vegan gains
@@archygrey9093 That would imply that vegan gains was manly to begin with.
@@IndellableHatesHandles that is a good point, i have now corrected my comment from "manlier" to "manly".
Honestly, had a pretty hard night, 4am and been thinking over a lot of what i'm doing in my life with my education and other things related to my future. Of all things to help me think clearly about how to approach certain issues i'm facing now i wasn't expecting it to be this that would help me figure those out at all. Thank you, this helped a lot lmao
what he says here is bullshit anyways. i am not a far left crazy person, but crap like this is why they come up with words like "ableism" and "gaslighting." The truth is that some things are too hard for some people, period. They give up because of learned helplessness, which evolved for us to stop wasting our time on things that are useless or hurt us. Not everyone gives up because they are lazy or addicted to having things easy. They sometimes give up because they literally cannot do it, especially if they have to do it on top of a bunch of other stressful expectations that we call "life." This is all abstract of course, not dealing specifically with doing any particular thing like learning linux. But sometimes people really are not able to do something, and there is no shame in "giving up" on that. We are all made differently.
seriously, while this might be the videomaker's viewpoint, it is kind of a dumb thing to say to any consumer. I guarantee that learning how to use a bar at the top of firefox is easier than learning a whole operating system (regardless if it is windows or mac or linux). If amazon had this attitude about its customers whenever they complained, amazon would not be a successful company known for excellent customer service. This sort of thing is equivalent to any company getting negative feedback from customers and blaming the customers, not themselves, and telling the customers to try harder. Maybe the people in the company think that the consumers are stupid, and they may or may not be right, but telling them that is not going to inspire anyone to keep trying. If Mental Outlaw really wants more and more people to use linux, it is stupid to frame his messaging like this. It is not shameful to give up, but it is shameful to shame the users/consumers, and things like that get pushback eventually.
We have a generation of people who were told that all they needed to do in order to do things that they could not do was to keep trying. They kept trying and kept failing, weakening their mental/emotional state. Then they found out that the far-left culture of victimhood accepts them for not being able to do things, for being who they are. It gives them vocabulary like "ableism" and uses terms like "gaslighting" to describe people who contradict their "lived experience" of trying and failing to do something that they cannot do. Now they seek revenge against the types of people who "gaslighted" them, via crazy identity politics. And since they were emotionally damaged from trying to do things they cannot do or from trying to be things that they felt like they were not, they either cannot see the blatant irrationality/logical contradictions/hypocrisy/insanity of their positions, or they do not care. Now these people want to mob and cancel you online for the smallest things. It is bad, but it is understandable. Society told them things that were not true, or expected things they could not give. Eventually, these people push back. Needless to say, telling anyone who is struggling that they just need to try harder (or implying that it is their fault for failing because they did not try hard enough) is a counterproductive message. It often does not work. Society is now paying the price for trying to push that message onto people. Sympathy, lack of judgment, real help -- those are the correct answers. That applies on an individual level, a company level, and a societal level. And on all 3 levels, we pay the price for giving the wrong answer.
This is the only "why you should learn linux" type videos that make me reconsider my choice to not use linux anymore. Thank you!
Maybe you just had the wrong distro. There's a lot of options, try a few. Personally, I'll never use Ubuntu again after it bricked itself during a routine update. But there are things like Silverblue and nixOS now that greatly reduce that risk.
I needed this right now! It's always nice to find a random channel that speaks to you in a way the big ones don't.
Agree with this. Forcing myself through my first couple of scuffed arch installs made me a lot more competent in troubleshooting linux in general, and made me switch full time. It has also prepared me for all the linux servers I will run into in future dev jobs.
I appreciate this video. You made me realize how much I've been giving up on school, and it's been repeating over time.
Oh shit the Feds
good thing that kenny's channel has a filter installed so that we are able to see which honeypot accounts are actually feds, you really thought you could fool me "John Smith", hah
I once had a client that ran windows. She had a old PC, something like the one you had. I asked her if she would like to try running Linux Ubuntu.
She was horrified. I asked her why and her answer will surprise you.
She said that she had years of experience learning how to fix windows problems and didn’t what to give up on windows. 🥴
Of course she ended up loving Linux, in fact she bought a new laptop a year later the had Linux.
"She said that she had years of experience learning how to fix windows problems and didn’t what to give up on windows. " That's actually a pretty good reason. Glad she still went with *nix though.
@666NedFlanders Good point, never berate a person who has a work flow that they can deal with. That is no way to win them over.
I don't understand the argument "I don't want to relearn my operating system." I personally want my operating system to be as efficient and easy to use as possible. That's why I spend so much time learning Linux, and especially tiling window managers. Once you get used to them, it's very hard to go back. I'm willing to relearn my operating system as long as it's a significant change which makes it easier to use.
I have a dual boot with windows 11 for (VR) games and arch Linux with awesome wm as my main os. I'm only using awesome for a week now and I miss my shortcuts when I boot into windows, so I agree with this one, it's easier to use, once you figured it out.
I was using arch for a long time tho before switching to awesome, just never tried to not use a de before
Counterpoint, my operating system is fine for my purposes, relearning everything and optimizing every detail would not be worth the effort expended, the gains would be severely limited by my knowledge of computing.
Also that's how you precisely avoid spyware and corporate abuse.
With all the pitfalls in getting Linux to do what you want it's often not apparent that you'll actually be more productive and better off. I'm trying to switch over right now and I have a science background with some programming and electronics experience and I'm struggling. Not least because of the elitists and delusional attitudes within the linux community. This whole "learning your operating system" only makes sense if you want to make it your hobby or if it's part of your job. For most it's a tool and most people driving cars aren't mechanical engineers and they shouldn't have to be to be able to drive. Linux is unfortunately still very much an OS by devs for devs, not so much users.
I absolutely agree with you. Using Linux can be kind of demotivating at the beginning, but turns into a rewarding experience down the road.
I applied this to installing gentoo in android phone, I thought that was too hard.
Pretty easy, adb push /sdcard, root phone as you can, chrooting, nice.
I got it.
Next, I wanted to update the rom.
Phone bricked.
it's good karma to keep your first bricked device forever. kind of like a rabbits foot. most recent one was Intel nuc. i7 one as well. such a shame.
unless you managed to overwrite fastboot, your fine, but you will lose gentoo ;(
@@metalwellington maybe reflash the bios? It should work
@@metalwellington My first bricked device is a S3, tried to put android 9 on it and it took that personally
If anything it's all easier than ever with plug & play distress that "just work" like ubuntu, mint, manjaro, pop OS. People just don't want to learn
distress?
That is true. Lots of people want stuff without earning it.
Nope, not plug and play. One can't say these distro 'just work, period'. Sure they do most of the time, but not all of the time. Over the years I run into bugs in whatever distro I try. Sometime the update function just breaks and there is no plug n play fix.
I can see when I go looking for help when the issue I'm having is a very common occurrence.
One common problem with no plug n' play solution: on mint boot drive (partition) runs out of space, will not automatically remove old kernels. Even running the command in terminal all the guides tell you to try first (something like ‘autoremove’) doesn't free any space. There's never been an update that fixed this despite clearly many people running into the problem.
This is true, but people also just don't like change. Even if they didn't have to learn much of anything new I'm sure they'd shy away from it because people love sticking with what they're used to. I think it's good to practice being open to new things in all aspects of life
Human is as human does.
To me this simply is about a pretty standard part of the human condition. Evolution got us here but there are some ingrained behaviors that aren’t the most useful for sure.
the thing is, when you need to go through windows VM everytime you want to run a program (and with that being unstable and you risk getting banned for doing so), then it beats the purpose of using linux to begin with. It's totally up to your use-case. If you don't play games, then linux is fine.
Also, linux distros shouldn't take for granted that you already know all the commands etc. They should include tutorial and/or a big list of ALL the useful commands and what programs that you may want to use for a daily basis when you start up the distro. A big hand-holding. You shouldn't have to look it up on the internet. This will trigger a ton of linux users though, they will feel threatened that their "safe-haven" will be taken away by normies by simplifying it.
an alternative is a fixed point distro that won't require the average user to even touch the terminal outside abnormal use cases and windows and macOS like GUI's avalable pre-packaged into an iso.
You mean a biiiig list of commands like typing "help" in the terminal? Or a manual for the commands like "man [command]"? Kek
Also "Linux is fine if you dont play games" is soooo 2015. I have steam. 75-80% of the games I have there run on Linux too without any VMs or Wine
@@aeropone and with Lutris and some minor tweaking that becomes a solid 95% in my experience. Problem is that other 5% usually are those so popular anti cheat games (personally I don't play them much). Hope things get better with the new easy anti cheat support.
@@tonyramirez5707 Well yeah thats my bias too: I dont really play triple A titles
You know, if you hit Windows + R, and type "cmd", the command line comes up. The commands haven't changed since the DOS days either. Commands not changing is not a Linux only thing, nor is the command line itself.
My problem with the linux command line, or Linux programs in general, is that command or program names are so obscure or out there that a lot of the time they don't actually represent what they're supposed to be.
As someone who gave up on Linux and went back to Windows, the breaking points for me were:
1) Spending 12 hours hunting dependencies and compiling a program for it to not work at all in the end because said program was not in a repository.
2) Going to compile a program from source after editing it only to find out the old compiler or an old library that was needed was no longer available anywhere on the internet making compiling the program impossible, making me realize that old programs will become useless as time goes on as dependencies remove and change old things. (I can still run Windows 95 programs in 10 just fine)
3) Why on earth are there like 6 binary folders?! The file structure makes no sense. If I want to back up a program it's a pain to include all the libraries with it to avoid what would happen in point #2. Everything just feels scattered everywhere and it's a huge mess. (Windows, you can expect everything to be in one folder when it installs, IF it installs)
That said, Windows 10 is butts and the criticisms are valid. I run Server 2016. It's basically 10 without the BS. (No Cortana, no telemetry, no forced updates, no ads... It's beautiful) I use Linux on an old web browsing machine but for the things I actually wanna do I just can't use Linux. Windows is a hell of a lot easier and compatible with the software and hardware I want to use. I just wish Microsoft wasn't a butt...
Understanding Linux kind of requires a computing history course. There's a good reason for all of it, and it makes sense if you understand the evolution of how problems were solved as they came up, but just looking at this mountain for the first time from the outside is overwhelming and unintuitive to a lot of people. With Windows, we know the history because we've lived it. Every change to the layout of Office or the default desktop theme elicited an emotional reaction which cemented the lore of the technology into our memory. I think it's just as natural for people who have lived their lives on linux to be just as intimately familiar with their particular flavor of it. You bring up a good point though - If everything you want is in the distro's repository, linux is super easy, "apt/rpm/pacman/emerge (name of program)" and you've got it. Just like the Windows store is very convenient. Compiling obscure programs from source, however, will definitely send you on an adventure. For a lot of packages it's just a matter of typing ./configure / make / make install. The same could be said of windows, though. Have you ever tried compiling OpenSSL from scratch with Visual Studio? There's a lot of things you need to have on your system before you hit compile. If I want to back up a game I made and all its dependencies, I'd need the actual game code, a couple of my own libraries, libpng, OpenAL, glew, maybe SFML, and so on. Fortunately I do not fear these things disappearing from the internet any time soon, but that doesn't eliminate the complexity of all those things being tied together, and all this is running on Windows. And there's plenty of old dead projects with poor documentation and untraceable dependencies for windows, trust me lol. At some point I decided to start using one common folder to hold all the dependencies I ever need, as a matter of my own convention, so I could have a known relative path to #include from. Gee, that sounds a lot like /usr/local. Then there's the phenomenon of DLL hell, although that's more of an issue with installing binary packages rather than source distributions, and more of a problem in pre-vista windows. I remember when I bought a linksys network card for my windows 98 laptop, and the CD-ROM with the drivers on it thought it was a good idea to overwrite a critical system DLL with an older version which was missing several functions, making the machine unbootable. Microsoft's answer to DLL hell was the winsxs directory, a scheme of hard linking versioned libraries to symbolic names and tracking what programs need what version. In linux a very similar thing happens where programs can manually depend on "libSomething-1.2.3.so" - or just "libSomething" which is a symbolic link to the latest version (usually - you can link it to whatever version you want manually). But if you want to copy the program, sans installer, you'll need all those DLLs from system32 too. Or sysWow64, or winsxs... who knows, I guess you'll have to check the registry and see what classes it imports. Anyway, ever since Windows stopped being a DOS spinoff and ran everything on the NT architecture, windows and linux are really much more similar than many people would like to admit, the main difference being how it's presented to the user, and for coders, the names of the API calls. fork() vs CreateProcess(). Linux is full of little analogies and mental images that may not make sense unless you know the story. Windows tends to be more verbose. Honestly, I think NTFS access control lists are a more robust security mechanism than user/group/world permission flags. That's probably the most compelling reason to use it, aside from specific software compatibility, but that's more for server admins and company IT folks than home desktop users. There's stuff like LDAP for linux domains I guess. Sorry I'm rambling. I guess my point is, compare apples to apples. That windows 95 program has dependencies too, it just comes with an installer to copy them where they need to go and link their GUID into the registry. Linux programs have binary distributions as well, that's basically what the repository packages are, installers that are pre-configured with the directory structure of that distro. system32 is /bin, Program Files is /usr/bin, Users is /home (thank God it's not "Documents and Settings" any more), you get the point. You can install a program anywhere you want and change the shell search path, just like you can change the %PATH% environment variable in DOS and Windows. Those environment variables also tell the system where Windows itself is located, the user home folder, AppData, all that stuff. It's just that with Windows there's only one distro. At least in linux you don't have to make a %PATH% for every single folder in Program Files... that's why they combine binaries into one folder and just keep track of packages. A good source install with a configure script and makefile will track that info too. If you notice, in Windows now, most programs don't store their data in their "Program Files" location any more, they use the AppData folder. You can't just copy the program folder and get all the save data, things are "spread out". You just know where to look for them because you know how Windows does things. Directory structures can be learned, the only problem is the mental block of "this is dumb, why is it like this?" So, learn why. History. It's important. But hey, use whatever suits your needs best, pick the right tool for the right job (and the right user.) I'm not trying to be an evangelist, I use Windows most of the time myself, just trying to encourage an open mind. I really do think they're more similar than different.
@@DFPercush im impressed purely by your comment effort
@@DFPercush
As a freshman learning GNU/Linux, one of the long term goals is to actually customize the desktop environment to the extent it resembles the Win7 experience I've had, as some of the stuff is handled pretty logically on Wintops. This includes creating a symbolic links directory with 'proper' naming, finding a file manager with a catfish like indexing search option, resemblence in the menu and keyboard shortcuts, and getting the right 'sysadmin tools' available in similar desktop envitonment places that share the looks. I've got to admit Im heavily used to right clicking some of the icons to tweak the display settings, or accessing and managing the in-built firewall rules via the control panel, but most of these things were touched because Windows' default config is default, instead of being 'safe'. Speaking on the case of Windows 7, a system preconfigured for safety measures only would come up with about as many difficulties for 'regular use' being checking out new applications or learning about them.
The thing is, there are plenty more hidden checkboxes you can click through to unlock some of the functionalities unavailable by default, while most Linux DEs primarily focus on display settings (and are easier to reconfigure). Thus far, what I can say is troublesome (non graphical/visually unembedded logic) are the groups and privileges. Now, terming it as system administrating may be too much of a term, but monitoring the system and hardware activity is something I would consider as a sysadmin (root) role. Be it a desktop or a server.
Mind you not, but even the lesser geeks do want to have an easy way to look up whats going on with the system. Thats why the XFCE I were using has had an alt ctrl del shortcut for the KSysGuardr, the terminal is opened with ctrl and r, the workspaces are disabled, and the show desktop panel shortcut is nicely placed in bottom right corner. Meanwhile, the Linux desktop environments advertised as being in the style of certain Windows versions are missing these key concepts, and the resemblence ends with replacing the icons. Not sure whether its grotesque, ignorance, someone'a unfinished project, or whether I should take it ironically as satire, but is outright wrong about what a Windows experience is.
That being said, I often find the 'open source Linux community' to be totally neutral and skeptic towards feedback given by what can be labeled as target audience, and the feedback is, user experience.
I hope Ill be able to make some tweaks here and there to customize the DE im using to be more 'shift friendly' and script installable for other people willing to explore the Unix ecosystem.
@@DFPercush add spacing to your text so it will be easier to read
@@DFPercush bro went godmode with the essay
I'm a boomer, it's hard for me to use Windows instead, I don't know what the half of functionality in windows does and it's super hard to use build in apps without MAN pages and terminal where I can set cli params and do what I want
It's hard to know what half the functionality of Windows does even if you're a Windows power-user. XD
As probably many people said, RTFM. There are so many different ways to learn what certain commands/flags do. I don't remember finding good documentation on windows features or installed programs. With Linux I had multiple instances of "I never knew I can do that" after reading --help or wiki article (don't use man pages often when I have internet)
@@wumi2419 ...you just told him to RTFM...and then admitted there wasn't good documentation on Windows...
@@liesdamnlies3372 I guess I put statements in wrong order. On linux you at least have the opportunity to RTFM
Exactly.
Learning the Linux CLI is like learning Calculus: it opens your world to so many cool concepts and quick shortcuts.
I've showed my brothers Linux and how fast using Linux/Unix really is.
If you know what you're doing then Linux is far superior to Windows in almost every way -- proprietary software and a few games still don't work at all.
Your points are sound and accurate but you missed the most important part. You assume that people are always acting reasonable and rational. Your solution means nothing to them.
Yea. Some people refused to learn a new skill, their ignorance is preventing them from learning something. They're just comfortable what they had and its easy to doubt it rather then try new things. Its like an apple user saying that Andriods are to complex since they're used the simplicity of iOS interfaces.
@@InfernoPhoenixFX
And there is people like me that try an iphone and get a seizure cause the ios directory tree makes no fucking sense compared to android.
@@rockytom5889 The iOS directory tree isn't meant to make sense, because it isn't meant to be open directly from a file browser. It is meant, instead, to be opened from iTunes where everything will show properly.
@@vhns_
Thanks, I forgot apple makes every single part of their devices as hard to use without proprietary tools as possible.
Yeah its real rational to whine about people not putting in the effort to use a tool. Its almost as if most people dont care. Linux nerds and IT people forget they are not the norm of users and never will be. Ive been amused by it for the last 20 years really.
"10 year old linux config scrips still work" lol
I installed Ubuntu yesterday, my first time using Linux. It was so easy to install and customize, it was so smooth and using it is really easy.
I get a lot more of performance out of my laptop and I do not longer have trouble with some drivers as I used to have with Windows! I'm loving it.
Can you explain the method you used to customize ubuntu to have quicklook and previewing files by pressing space? or being able to airdrop files over to another nearby computer? Linux seems to be incapable of doing these things.
@@Otome_chan311 , Nadie Quintero doesn't claim that he has that working, though Linux is definitely capable of these things.
A preview can be the icon of a file when using the grid view in a file manager, or some file browsers can have a built in preview utility (there are more than just the default GNOME3 one).
Though a lightweight program can also quickly show the file, and then be closed again.
Linux Mint has an AirDrop like program called Warpinator, which can be installed in different distro's, though that's oviously not compatible with Airdrop.
This can also be achieved with SSH, though that might be a bit too complicated for the casual user.
Files can also be moved around using Bluetooth, as paired devices can share files, and a good 'ol USB stick works fine too.
GNOME3 (Ubuntu's default desktop manager) lacks a lot of customization, but a different one like MATE (GNOME2) or KDE give a lot more options.
These can be manually installed and configured on Ubuntu, but you can also install a different distro if that's too complicated.
If you want an Ubuntu based one, they are called Ubuntu MATE and Kubuntu respectively. Kubuntu is good as well, and Linux Mint's Cinnamon desktop is also great!
Ubuntu usually (*cough* *cough* snap) doesn't force these features to the user, and often they have to be installed separately.
The thing about Linux is that it's INCREDIBLY customizable and that it isn't as bloated, meaning that the user has to install more programs for these tasks and can be overwhelmed by the options or assume Linux just cannot do it.
@@WyvernDotRed it is clear you have no idea what I'm asking and likely have never used Mac. You are talking about thumbnails. Which is.... Something I would automatically expect. The fact you think it's a feature is exactly why I'm complaining about Linux. The rest of your comment consistently misses the points I am making. A USB thumbstick is not wireless.
Edit: quickly opening files is expected and not the feature I'm asking about when I talk about quickview and preview.
@@Otome_chan311 the point of this video and my comment is telling that Linux isn't one big nicely integrated BLOB (Binary Large OBject), but consist of separate parts that make it tick.
In Linux you can easily look under the hood and see all the different programs from different developers controlling your computer, and interact with them.
In MacOS and Windows (and iOS and Android), this is hidden from the user. But because the OS is made by one corporation, everything integrates nicely with previews and AirDrop and such.
Linux doesn't have this nearly as much, and focuses more on giving the user full control over the OS, and not making it as convenient as possible.
Though I have never used a Mac, I have used an iPad. Everything was nicely integrated, but I hated using it as I wasn't in control of the device and I couldn't do certain things.
For the same reason I don't like Windows or Android.
If you want everything to be nicely integrated like that, use something from Apple or Google.
If you want to customize a lot and learn about how the OS works, use Linux.
@@WyvernDotRed I fail to see why linux cannot also have that convenience.
You're channel is so good. Transparent, motivating, informing. True representative of what freedom of information means.
Whenever I feel down regarding my goals, I come here for the advice. Thanks for your inspiring words, I hope one day I can be as knowledgeable as you
Love u bro.. From ALGERIA 🇩🇿❤️
I’m relatively new to Linux myself. Been using Ubuntu for a few months, and it’s phenomenal but also can be tedious at times. I’ve learned so much in that short time, and it was worth the sweat.
If you're enjoying learning Linux so far you should try something a little bit more advanced. I'll paste some recommendations.
If you really want to really learn Linux like a pro (not difficult, just dedication, time and effort required, like with everything worth of your time):
$ = normal user
# = root
1. (I'm not an Arch fanboy, I don't use it and there're lots of distros I'd use before Arch). Install and use Arch, but make sure you know everything you're doing. If you don't know what you're doing run
$ info
If you aren't still sure
$ info (repeat as much as necessary)
If it doesn't work,
$ man
If you aren't still sure
$ man (repeat as much as necessary)
If it doesn't work,
$ --help
If you aren't still sure
$ --help (repeat as much as necessary)
2. Switch to a Tiling Window Manager. I recommended Awesome to new users.
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3. Learn some programming. It's really easy. I recommend Python. It's one of the worst programming languages, but it's probably the easiest one and once you know Python you can learn way more easily any programming language. There're plenty of tutorials out there.
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@@Jorge-xf9gs yeah I use C++ as my main but python is good for beginners
Worth the sweat I don't have that with windows just works .
@@Jorge-xf9gs
There is so much nonsense in that comment, it's hard to wrap my head around.
If your operating system works and runs the programs you're using, there's no reason to switch.
If programming is "easy" why are some programmers paid hundreds of thousands of dollars while others flunk out of CS? Programming easy things is easy, programming hard things is hard.
If Python is "one of the worst programming languages", why is it the #1 in scientific computing and ML by far? Are people suffering a collective delusion?
It doesn't seem like you're actually using your computer to get anything done.
@@Mayank-mf7xr
Judging from his comment he is either: a sys admin and can't conceptualize that anyone does anything else than him or he doesn't actually use computers for anything and is simply having a sort of perverse love affair with his cpu.
My introduction to Linux began with RH5 at work. We needed sniffers to diagnose network problems but only had some old Dell workstations that handle a maximum of 256meg of ram. The default install of Windows NT 4 could handle that hardware but it was discontinued. Windows 2000 took nearly all the ram just for itself. We asked for an exception to allow just the network group to try a lightweight o/s and the management said yes! None of us knew a damn thing about Linux we were determined to try. After many failures and trials we did it!
Then the corporate culture took over the entire project with everyone claiming that “they” had actually done all the work. Never mind the typical RTFM response on Linux blogs and the worn out h/w everything I had done, mostly alone, was being belittled or stolen. That soured me to the point I started over using XP and eventually those machines were all that was left. Yes, learning what I could wherever I could was a helluva lot of fun. It gave me confidence to try other things too. But I’ll never be good at politics and I’m just as proud of that!
Your point got lost on me or forked into different directions but, good to know.
Windows 8 was when I started to seriously consider Linux. The UI change was so bad. Windows 10 went back a little, but came with all spying possible. I switched to Linux for private use. There's a lot to learn and remember, but it feels so much better to be in control and not constantly monitored.
I want to move to Linux, but stay on Windows for the games. They say nowadays 80-90% of games will work, but what if some of my games don't. I'll try it in a while to test things out.
Look into Proton. Your steam games work on Linux. Gabe Newell is funding this for the steam deck (it uses linux too) so now everyone has to support Linux or theyll be caught behind competition @@Iosaiv
You can turn all of the spying off. But yeah, in Linux, you don't have to think about it.
@@MrCmon113 Can you though? Can we trust Microsoft here when their intent is clearly hostile? They keep pushing Teams and Edge onto every machine and resetting controls with updates, and that's just what users can easily see. Heinous company.
Linux is perfect for peace of mind. As long as I don't try to pull off any exotic commands on a whim.
You are so correct in your giving up theory; it happens all the time and then 10 years later people can do anything for themselves. You really see it when a hurricane strikes where a number of people are waiting for the "professionals" to fix their houses. Meanwhile, you patched your house up enough to keep your family dry and cool. Thanks for the video.
I love this style of video, you look something relivent to Linux, and applied it to life as a whole. Simply awesome, should make more videos like this, keep it up :)
Woah typing sudo and some weird command to install a program!? And I even have to remember my password?? That requires a semi-functional brain... I'm out.
@Deon Denis Linux isn't "hard". It's nonfunctional. For example: it is impossible in linux to have a quicklook/preview style functioning similar to mac os. You just can't do it.
@@Otome_chan311 actually, nothing's impossible
@@screwflower7647 You say that as you fail to provide instructions or an answer to my request. If it's not impossible, then explain how to do that.
@@Otome_chan311 Have you tried Elementary OS? elementary.io/
It has allot of features built-in.
I did the research for you, you may thank me laiter
@@jd-raymaker last I checked, elementary os could not do what I have asked
It was worth learning how to install Arch for my privacy. I am already a bit technically advanced than most but hey I learned a ton in the process. My first try was with Ubuntu in virtual box. Then following a ton of tutorials like how to get obs or playing Steam games (that are supported on Linux)
I have yet to learn how to install Gentoo.
I love this talk. It just makes sense. This gave me inspiration to try again adapting to Linux based environment. Also it gives a great insight into human behaviour in general.
What made me give up last time with Linux was my inability to make some games run properly in a reasonable amount of time. I had to boot in kernel mode to manually install gpu drivers (at the time it had to be done that way in with the distro I used), configure paths to configuration files and generally had to look up everything and apply settings that I didn't know how they work or what they are used for. Finally I manage to run it and it worked but I had some terrible input lag and I just saw how this would take another huge chunk of time to fix. And lastly, Also I used Visual Studio to work on my programming endeavors and adapting to a new IDE or building one from scratch felt too bothersome and not very worthwhile.
When I get a new computer, I'm setting it up with linux again no excuses.
And you dont do that, right? Sure you can't alternate visual studio, it's just best IDE miles beyond others. Also as MSDN only in wet dreams of linux users. It is objective reality.
Nobody can fail at Linux, but some programs that have an equivalent on Linux are just not quite the same as how it runs on Windows. If you're used to certain programs, certain keyboard shortcuts, certain settings, then it's tedious to configure Linux to work that way. But I really appreciate all your videos and especially your point of view on security and privacy in Linux vs Windows.
I ran into many roadblocks when I first installed linux half a lifetime ago (I was 17) "what the hell is a 'mount point'?" "Oh, X Windows? So I can have Windows on my Linux?" "Why can't I write to my NTFS partition?" ... and so on. I learned a little over about 2 or 3 years and when I was 19 or 20 I asked somewhere - can't remember where - what the hardest distro was. Top 2 answers were LFS and Gentoo. I went with Gentoo. I also never looked back, save for the times I decided to do some testing with wine.
> "Oh, X Windows? So I can have Windows on my Linux?"
This gave me a nice laugh. Having myriads of questions similar to these is almost a mandatory experience when switching to a "deepish" linux distro.
At least you knew what a partition is.
I didn't even know anything else but downloading games.
You can't write to a NTFS partition with hibernated Windows on it. This is to prevent data loss.
Windows let me mount it no problem (I had put in a Windows drive from a different PC) and when I booted the second Windows everything written was gone. Luckily nothing important. I guess Microsoft doesn't understand its own file system.
@@idk-bv3iw in 2003, with exception of experimental support, you couldn't write to an NTFS partition AT ALL when you were in Linux.
just git gud
git: 'gud' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.
The most similar command is
gui
just wget gud
Sudo apt git gud
I see you're teaching a good lesson by taking linux as an example. You are very smart if you analyse behaviour patterns and draw logical conclusions from it.
Use your powers for good!
Left Windoze after 7, installed Mint two years ago, and my machine runs awesomely. Learned a lot. Love Timeshift while I was learning.
Tips to adopt Linux:
1-Use Virtual Box with Linux in Windows. Set the shared folder to access the Windows files inside Linux.
2-Define the set of tools for your working profile that is common for both Linux and Windows, for example Libre Office is common for both operating systems, and whenever possible, use it inside Linux in the virtual box.
3-When you feel confident, install Linux in your machine, yet make your computer dual boot, keeping Windows at hand. Open Suse installer automatically recgnize Windows and build the dual boot during installation. Just prepare a USB installer with the Suse 'Image Writer': download this program and give the path for the Suse .iso, then load the USB. Boot the computer and install the Linux (F2 to set the boot for the USB).
Open Suse has the coolest KDE (user interface) enviorement out there.
I hope it helps.
Just wanted to come back and say, thanks for making this type of content. I have been learning linux for what feels like around 9-10 months now because of your videos. I started out with Peppermint, moved over to Manjaro and Garuda, then to Arch. I'd like to learn more about servers in the near future, and I'm working on building an actual PC instead of using this 2015 MSI laptop with an nvidia video card. On the new one, I'll be ditching windows entirely. I'll probably keep windows on my old laptop, and I definitely will keep the laptop to tinker around with, but my main objective is to keep building knowledge about other OS's and see what I like.
So far, Arch has been a ton of fun and I definitely had some moments like you mentioned in the video where I wanted to just give up. I'm incredibly glad that I never stopped though, because there has not been a single problem that I have not been able to fix so far. I'm also getting much better at identifying problems and finding quick solutions (fuck search engines, reddit, UA-cam and the arch wiki are the best places to go)
I'll DEFINITELY be trying gentoo out, but probably not on my new machine.
I feel like he's a mind reader at the beginning, he really gets me.
You need a podcast bro! I love listening to your stuff because it applies to all of my life. I love to hear what you have to say about linux, privacy, politics, philosophy or really anything else. I actually use a tweaked version of UA-cam to listen to your videos while I work. UA-cam just sucks up battery life. But seriously make podcast on Spotify or something!
I came here for linux but stayed for the point you made about failure becoming a habit. This was not intentional, but you made one of the most motivational speeches I have ever heard.
Proffesionals on Linux: Use what's difficult, never give up, there is a lot to gain for learning difficult stuff, if you really can't learn linux, there are easier version of Linux to start with, no OS is the best or flawless, they all have their different uses and purposses, no one is forced to learn linux anyways since there are other OS to use and if it's even for its unique stuff no one is missing anything important by not knowing Linux but it's good to learn new stuff like Linux since there is a lot it can be used for.
Averages on Linux: I use this because is good for server stuff, scripts, easy to do programs and installations, functionality between things, once you learn the over complicated stuff and it's limits off course, it's a good tool, but I learned it because i needed Linux.
Begginers: I use Linux as an OS and maybe for it's server utilities and programming and all of that complicated stuff, I may be learning how to do that from pure will to learn new stuff or I may need Linux in the future, they say Linux is a good tool, I may be liking it or hating it, maybe I keep going or give up.
The Linux guy you hear everywhere: If you don't use Linux you are a Windows Returd and you are oblivious to the world I am superior because command saves 2 seconds compared to windows 1000 steps to install thing (when it's actually 5 steps).
My main issue with Linux is the lack of software support which has thankfully been getting a lot better but still isn't as good as on windows.
lack of software support for the software you use, Windows lacks of almost 90% of the software I use, and Windows is not gatting any better.
@@mz-pd5hw True. Development on Windows is kind of a pain even with the Linux subsystem.
@Zacman X well, that's relative, for "regular users" LibreOffice is more than enough, for "regular users" Gimp can be more than enough too, I'm not sure AutoCAD is used by "regular users". Of course you could argue that some specific thing require MS Office or Photoshop, but I don't thing that those are "regular user" features. "regular users" only use multimedia, a browser and basic offimatic. All of those are more than supported by Linux supported and native software. I've even used Electronic CAD on Linux without a hitch.
This is something you'll never hear linux users talk about because they're too busy troubleshooting forks and compatibility software to literally just run one game or one piece of software. Its quite hilarious how none of them seem to mention the outward, directy incompatibility most commonly used software has with Linux.
"B-B-But my officelibre!!!! My open sourced clone software!!! Its better!!! Waaah!" Yeah, it sure is, anyways, get back to me when you solve the five errors that just showed up with that. Good luck!
@@mistergoodfellow5847 You sound mad lol
I agree with the sentiment, just want to add that you should do things first and foremost for yourself, because even if you become half man half linux and never even install a GUI for your distro, you might still need to learn the new Windows, because your job uses it, or whatever other arbitrary reason. Point is, you didn't give up and learned linux and that was your choice and journey.
On a side note, I never understood GUI complaints, before Win 7 I had my important programs on quicklaunch, since Win 7 I just type the first 1-3 letters into the start menu and press enter. Plus beside the new settings nonsense you can still open run and type in "control".
Most people who say "Linux is hard" never even tried learning about any Linux distro in the first place.
I love Linux, it teaches you how computers work. It's like having a car where all the parts are well documented and changeable.
I started using Linux now as I have an old dual core computer with only 2gb ram. Loved Mx Linux xfce , it runs smoothly. KDE is feature rich and better looking and is lighter than xfce. I'm learning 😊
I remember when I was messing around with my T61 and I was trying to install gentoo, then tried mint and decided to call it quits because things just weren't working. I was turned off by a lot of the Linux noob hate on forums where I was trying to find information on, but your videos have been really informative and I think I'm going to give linux another shot, because a. Windows is horrible slow on that poor machine, and b. I actually do prefer how Linux works and feels to windows. I'll give this comment an update when I'm done
EDIT: Was able to install and configure Xubuntu on the T61 without it breaking and all my shit being corrupted. Fairly happy and confident to continue exploring with linux.
The ironic thing is that if you make it past your first couple months, you'll be at the point where if you went back to MacOS or Windows, you'll be bitching and moaning about how unusable those systems are. If you come to Linux and don't immediately give up, the chances that you are going to be a lifelong convert are extremely high.
I'm so used to linux with a tiling WM I can't even use the Windows PCs at school anymore lol
I have a semi Tiling/floating manager simlar to windows
Too right! Best motivation talk I've heard; no bullshit.
Thankfully there's a TON of good Linux info out and the old days of "RTFM N00B!" are pretty much done.
Watched this video a couple weeks ago. Motivated me to dedicate the new SSD that I got exclusively for Arch Linux, which I had tried and given up on at around this time last year. It's still too soon to tell if I'm going to completely stick with it, but the fact that I still haven't switched back to Windows even once up to this point is very promising. So thanks for this video. You should know that it had a tangible positive influence on someone.
Lenix is as hard as riding a bike is
Once you learn systemD everything is downhill ;)
what the fuck is systemD and how do I learn it?
@@valerabaglej7437 systemd is a service manager, and systemd was pretty hated by the community and created a big controversy when it was choosen as the default service manager in Arch Linux
@@erzma9908 boys, I did it! I learnt systemD and now running my home DLNA server through systemctl. No issues so far
@@erzma9908 What is wrong with parallel startup and a combination of exactly three utilities?
@@valerabaglej7437 was about to trash talk on systemd-kerneld but my job has already been done
Mental Outlaw, the VeganGains doppelganger of Linux
LinuxGains
It's like the sanity that vegan gainz lost a long time ago
@@Eltipoquevisteayer What happened to him?
@@triliner254 He sometimes have ..... Erratic moments to say the least
I first tried out Linux in 2003 with Red Hat 8 on a desktop. But moving to Linux on laptops became extremely difficult until about 2014 or so because of the evil Broadcom wireless chipset. I'm so happy it is not a standard anymore and have been using Linux exclusively since 2019 (and hoping to carry that over to my mobile devices soon because of the PinePhone and PineTab),
My man uses Arch btw and compares quitting to addiction -- very good analogy. Keep up the awesome content man! Love your channel!
he uses gentoo
I used linux for like 2 years on a macbook air. I only used Linux because I hated MacOS more & couldn't install Windows. Well after that experience I had a profound realization. I love Windows.
However everything you say about Linux is 100% correct & on a logical level I accept that you are right, however on an emotional level I will be happier using Windows cause I'm comfortable with it.
Maybe it's too hard to use a terminal?
Or to use a command line?
I'm sure, this is true for many people.
Surely it's hard to dive into the endless internet to find solutions for problems, which nobody else had before. Often it seems like that. It's hard to get answers, that won't help or that are that way, that you have to throw away your hardware and buy another one. Or answers, which lead into traps. And sarcastic or frustrating answers without solutions ...
I remember the last time I installed Linux. I changed the wallpaper on the desktop. Because of this, the system did no more start up, after shutting down. Sounds strange, isn't it? But true. The wallpaper was not on the system drive and the drive containing the wallpaper was not mounted, when the wallpaper had to be loaded. So the screen left black and the system was waiting for the wallpaper forever. No error message, no reaction, no anything ... that problem was hard, to figure out. It took me 2 weeks.
Today - one year later - I'm still trying to figure out, how to make my gaming keyboard, my gaming mouse and my gaming headset working on Linux. Not for gaming - I need the special features of this devices for CAD functions and I like to listen 5.1 on my headset. The microphones sound is cristal clear, it works perfect for IP telephony and I like also the special light effects on all devices.
But not on Linux.
It's hard to make it working. I didn't make it yet, but I still keep trying ...
I would say the main problem with solving difficult issues in linux isn't that its difficult, but the fact that there are alot of issues that just haven't been encountered and solved. Like for windows, if there is an issue, most likely someone has already encountered it on your specific version and has posted a fix. For linux however the distro variations combined with smaller userbase mean that I have encountered many undocumented issues myself, and fixing those can not be expected from an average user.
So as a TL:DR, Giving up on linux = GIVING UP ON LIFE
Damn, dude, this is just the video I needed right now. Was living in easy mode again and it's important for my mental health right now that I do stuff. I concluded I need to proactively make my life now. This is just the boost I needed. Very important too. Might install Linux in a while too, although I am happy Windows finally keeps working, because I messed up with Linux. I can do it.
I was expecting advices to change to Linux easier and yet I got some mad good Life advices
"Linux is hard"? Here's a solution that doesn't take 13 minutes to explain:
Switch over to Linux Mint. You literally never need to use the command-line interface (CLI). Not once.
If you do then you are on a very small list of users that have needed to.
Everything works out of the box.
If you want a nice desktop environment (DE) then install Linux Mint Cinnamon: www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=281
If you want a challenge that forces you to learn Linux then install Manjaro. You'll need to understand the basics of a "rolling distro" and how to use Time Shift. Both of these concepts are actually very simple.
Here's a basic explanation:
A rolling distro is basically what Windows 10 is. You don't need to re-install a whole new OS to use a newer version, like going from version 19.1 to 20.0.
Time Shift is an extremely easy-to-use application that saves your settings. Let's say you changed your desktop background and added some shortcuts onto your desktop. And then, for whatever reason, your OS crashes. Oops! Well, no worries, you can restore those settings and your OS by Restoring from a save you have in Time Shift.
If you want a beautiful DE then install Manjaro KDE: manjaro.org/downloads/official/kde/
"Linux is too hard" - Translation: I don't know how to use a search engine
Linux is awesome! If you ever run in to a problem you can just go search and you'll find at least 5 solutions! Sure, two of those solutions may be deprecated since kernel 3.3, one will likely break something else on the system, one will be for a completely different distro, desktop or BSD, while all five will be declared 'the wrong way to do it' by someone with a thesis length write up to back it up, but you'll find solutions to the problem if you just look!
Windows:
Clicks button
It works
I was just wanted to say thanks
this video didnt just help me with daily driving arch linux
it even helped me with:
single gpu passthrough
learning coding
school
becoming much more confident
and im really glad i watched this video :)
This is exactly what I needed man. Thank you. Installing mint today
I forgetting that this guy just literally looks like gigachad
You get it. I don't even know why I started using it, but I never stopped, and I think the possibility of improving is the reason why (while on Windows, you really can't ever be that good), so I became a decently advanced user eventually, by always trying new things. People said Arch was more challenging, so I used Arch. People memed Gentoo as being a difficult distribution, so I installed it and used it. I did take breaks and gave up on a few things, but the difference is that I always came back to them later, better equipped to get things done, because that's what I tend to do, because at the end of the day, the whole appeal of being a human is improving so you can do impressive things and not be some boring asshole like most people are.
I gotta tell you, I've been using windows since I was around 7, from 3.1 over MSDOS to 7/10, and - while I probably did have to re-learn stuff, I never found myself thinking "oh fuck me, here we go looking for element X/tool Y again". The transition from 3.1 to 95 - I was so young I enjoyed the learning, to 98 I still had no dialup so everything felt identical to me, XP was great and an easy transition, and I didn't use vista or anything till 7, which was another smooth transition (they managed the "always online" crap good enough to make me thing, at the time, that it was a great idea).
Now, believe me, I despise windows - I got a WHEA issue which is "windows exclusive", but I got to praise MS's engineers. While they do change plenty, they are amazing in making you think they haven't changed nothing.
This is not to say Linux upgrades are hard to get used to - but rather that microsoft managed the transitions (for the most part, ignoring vista) so well, that they succeeded in implementing the idea that an OS switch is too much hassle into most of their costumer base.
It's mostly because Windows is an OS family, and Linux is divided into various distros, which have their own subdistros (as in distros that are based on other distros).
@@GumSkyloard Well, I guess if someone went over to a certain distro and stuck to it, they will find themselves at home, that is - updates will be seamless. The issue is the mindset and the pen mentality windows is packaged with, though, like I said - their psychologists or marketing people (design people) are great at making people forget there's a choice until they're fully dependent.
I need it this video, i was considering passing to linux for months and this video really give me the inspiration that I need it. I can't wait to take the challenge!
Linux these days is easier to use than Windows. It's also more powerful than Windows. My 67 year old brother was going nuts trying to use a Windows 10 or 11 system to do e-mail, facebook and web browsing. (He has some problems.) UI inconsistencies, constant ads, notifications and updates were driving him to distraction. I switched him to Linux Mint where the UI is more reminiscent of WinXP or Win7 and he's happy as a clam.
I would say it's not trying something difficult, It's trying something different
5:07 Not much, Classic Shell ftw ;)
Windows ricing was and is still a thing btw.
Sort of related, checked out DA only to find decades of customization files lost due to the removal of categories... F
On a Windows system, each installed application is isolated within its own private folder tree. The only runtime libraries commonly shared among multiple Windows apps are Microsoft .NET API's and the like, so in practice all dependency and version conflicts are rooted in that single monolithic source. As a result, Windows users typically blame Microsoft when something goes wrong with their system, unless they have reason to believe some errant app installed itself improperly. For their part, Microsoft is happy to take the blame by default, since it reinforces users' feeling of dependency on Microsoft.
The difference with modern Linux systems is that package dependency and permission conflicts can arise between dozens of independently installed apps and services, and there is no monolithic organization to blame for the resulting state of anarchy. Software packages are typically downloaded from random online servers for free, as-is with no implied warranties. Documentation is likewise crowd-sourced at random, with haphazard dating and ad hoc version control. Speak with Linux advocates and you'll find that this is exactly the state of affairs they prefer, which is why it will never be replaced by anything other than endlessly iterated versions of itself. Of course, the same conclusion applies to Windows as well, though for diametrically opposing reasons.
(I'm aware this post is three years old. Just posting in case someone stumbles on it and sees it upvoted and unchallenged.)
The description of "modern Linux systems" in the comment is almost completely opposed to reality. Nearly all Linux users depend on their distribution's package management. Linux has voluminous documentation, and its community invented the concepts and idioms used in modern version control.
There is a really deep message in this video.
Thank You for taking the time and sharing your perspective on life and difficult things.
Here's the issue with your advice... Most people aren't hobbiests who are super interested in their operating system. Just like there are plenty of people who aren't super 'into' cars, but they just need a simple, reliable car to get them from point A to B, most people are this way with their operating system. They're not big into modifying their operating system or with getting the best 'workflows'; they just want something that will open an internet browser, play some music files, print some shipping labels, and maybe type up a document or two.
Just as you probably don't want to learn everything there is to know about plumbing in order to simply use your toilet, most people don't want to have to spend their time learning the ins and outs of their operating system in order to do the same things they could have done on a different OS like Windows or Mac without the learning curve. It's nice that you enjoy your operating system, but for most people it's simply a tool they don't want to have to spend their time to think about. I think most people would be better off with a very simple to use OS that can be operated pretty much exclusively through the VGUI like Mint.
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When ever I hear people say Linux is too hard I always tell them use CMD or Powershell than try to say that again.
Call me a masuchist but I like PowerShell quite a bit. Unlike Bash/sh you can write a more or less understandable script without fancy syntax and you can work in an object-oriented fashion which means no parsing text with grep, awk and whatnot which to this day I still can‘t wrap my head around. And the clear Ver-Noun structure of the commandlets are also pretty nice.
That said, because in *nix everything is just an executable, it makes it actually more akin to cmd imo. And still I‘m a big fan of the Bash and use WSL at work for my command line needs where PowerShell or cmd don‘t cut it.
A tech blogger I follow has recently been arguing that PowerShell is better than Unix like shells. But personally, I don't think I can live without Zsh.
1:59 Windows Vista made every computer slow.
This video was very inspirational. Thank you, man!
Oh man, that's why you're my favorite youtube channel, I gave up with linux 2 times, but it didn't last a week before I reinstalled and tried again, I got used to follow step by step without understanding what was going on in the tutorial, you can't do that while using linux, but still I'm improving.
Even as a software developer, I have to say that Linux is too complicated for Desktop use. I use Kubuntu 22.04.
- No standard GUI-Way of installing software (apt vs dpkg)
- No clear connections to file endings
- Complicated rights management (UAC vs sudo)
- Lack of driver support or dogmatic refusal to integrate proprietary but polished drivers
- Third party devices stop working out of the blue (faulty or incompatible drivers). Especially bluetooth and Wifi.
- Basically can't use it without the terminal or your first point of advice is the terminal
- No Microsoft Office easily installable (not my problem but a deal breaker for less techy people)
Discover exists. But, as a newbie, I think a GUI is not needed because installing using a terminal is easier than installing from a browser under windows.
Lol, how do you install project dependencies my fellow software developer? With a GUI?
Having to reinvent the wheel only to learn that it's wonky, unstable and not as good as the wheel you had before, is not a compelling reason for people to switch to Linux.
I think it's important to be aware of the differences that Linux users often take for granted. The different software, the incompatibilities, the unfamiliarity with file structure, the literal THOUSANDS of different distros, each with their own quirks, benefits and drawbacks (arguably the key factor in deciding whether Linux is for you).
You have to understand that many of these people have day jobs where they're going in to work on a Windows-based PC. They know the environment, how it operates and how it works. They're not going to suddenly switch to Linux without a good reason, especially considering how much software they may already have which will no longer function under their new OS.
If you're setting up a PC for your grandma to use, you don't really care. You can install anything. She's just going to run a web browser and buy knitting needles and wool from amazon, why would she care? But for anyone using their PC on the regular, it's a landmine.
Even knowing the ropes, I still find incompatibilities, dependency problems or outright frustrations with the OS at times. Sure, Windows has those too, but I don't have to trawl through literal dozens of pages of geek speak to find the answer. Getting answers to a Linux problem means answering a dozen questions about your distro, your setup, your drivers. Questions beginners often find daunting even on Windows. Windows users can often just run a troubleshooter and fix it in moments, and even if they can't there are much easier to understand guides to follow than there are for Linux users simply because of the fixed standards.
I think it's really hard for regular Linux users to put themselves in the shoes of a total beginner.
I tried linux this year and it wasn't even possible to adjust the scroll speed of my mouse
I can do that. What distro did you try?
Bokhead Pictures POPos. It was only possible with a hack called imwheel
I like the one where your keyboard doesn't even make symbols you can recognise and you can't type the username password to log in
@@metalwellington You mean the one where you selected the wrong keyboard layout during installation?
Honestly I've never even thought of adjusting my mouse wheel speed because it's always just worked (been using Linux exclusively since 2016) but it's unfortunate that otherwise basic features are sometimes missing on common Linux distros. Linux is a community project and doesn't always have the adhesion and order that an OS strictly developed by a single company might. A lot of features are developed by the users or small groups based on importance to them. Sorry to hear about your experience though, hopefully it gets fixed so that other people don't have to worry about it
love your content brother. not many people think for themselves now-a-days. (speaking of previous videos as well as this one). the way to explain your logic is excellent and sound
This video caught me as I was loading the windows 10 ISO on my usb drive. Made me rethink things.