Their attitude is right there in their lyrics. They have a death wish, they are dealing with trauma, they don't trust women, they are all about their money and their homies, their guns and their drugs. OF COURSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU. THEY TOLD YOU.
@@christopherjameswright9614 but if a mf tell u they not about sh!t please believe it. That's not the same as trusting man. That's using discernment. 😘
Same. I wanted to help some artist before hitting record pools, open mics,etc. They acted like rehearsals was beneath them and they got it. One of the many reasons I gave up on that profession.
Exactly, and when you have a personal relationships with these artist and you give them some insight on how they can improve their performance they look at you like you are a hater. Its crazy, been there. At that point you just have to close your mouth, stand back and watch them crash and burn.
This is 100 percent on point. Artists like Michael Jackson and Prince were tour masters because they knew the importance of stage presence and production value.If your tours were whack then you didn't go touring for long. DMX had such an electric atmosphere for his concerts. Today's rappers are too cool to dance and learn new skills. Get a real hype man, a real band, or a real dance crew.
I saw Michael Jackson in 1996. It made me a fan. His stage show was incredible. His presense was felt throughout the audience. It was my first big concert and still is one of the best. I don't know any modern artist who can do that.
That’s cause they skipped my generation of artists and signed weirdo’s now the music industry is failing it’s a known fact they can’t recoup their money from these artists 😂😂😂😂
I don't know why they wanna spend their money on an artist that you don't understand what the heck they're saying. It's just a good beat on the record. Keep your money.
This is what happens when the craft is infiltrated and inundated with bag chasing hustlers more than actual naturally gifted rappers who respect the art even if they do want to make money. If they’re gonna half step in the studio, if they’re not going to show love and care about their art then expect them to show the same lack of care to be at their shows.
Artist are struggling to sell tickets, is because this rap era is trash and people are waking up. Record labels going out of business. The real talented rappers are independent. The Radio stations where I am even know this, they always playing recycle old school mixes everyday....
The real problem is the fans who expect mediocre artists to give them something extraordinary. You can listen to some of these guys music and tell that they aren’t going to give a great show. The songs be lackluster so what do you think the performance is going to be? A lot of these artist barely put time into making the songs and albums but y’all think they’re going to rehearse and put a show together for you???😂😂😂 the fans are the real problem, y’all the ones put these guys on and always taking up for their basicness lol
The problem is a lot of these artists get way too comfortable with them getting a massive amount of fame with also gaining a whole lot of money not from just their advance but from other ventures on top of that if they don’t start selling more tickets the record labels are gonna start looking at them funny and say listen if you don’t start selling more tickets we are not gonna support you at all because we’re wasting money on you
I’m an old head, 49. Was in a pretty “locally” successful hiphop group in the early 2000’s. RAPPING OVER THE SONG?!?!? It was 4 of us, we did backing vocals for each other and we actually REHEARSED our shows. Spitting over your song was just UNHEARD OF!!!
This era is showing everybody why supporting artists that really care and have passion for music should be in the forefront more. Oppose to these so called artist that ain’t even REAL artists fr🤣🤦🏾♂️
I paid $60 for 2 tickets to see Little Brother’s reunion tour in 2019. They had a live DJ and a live set for an hour and a half. Lupe Fiasco was out here with a live set for 2 hours for like $40. Run The Jewels was $60 with an hour and a half of hits. Y’all can keep these new dudes if I can hear slightly older rappers with wider catalogs for a fraction of the price.
He ain't wrong. The day lip-syncing became okay, live black music died. Also, for artists taking fans for granted, it's generational. Society at large is a lot less respectful. This is how many people from this generation treat each other.
@@CleanMusicLover229 no doubt but it was a secret back then. Now, I see artists missing some of their own vocals but it still plays in the background and they dont even care. 💀
Maybe it's a talent thing. So many artists today are manufactured. Honestly, most of these guys sound similar. If I didn't have to put blood, sweat, and tears into honing my craft, would I even have a craft to hone? Artists had to stand out once upon a time in order to get heard. I mean, even with big money backing back in the day, it was super hard for subpar talent to go that far. Now though...
I saw the The Foo Fighters after they canceled due to Dave having a sore throat. They came back on the last leg of the tour and played 3.5 straight hours and an 45 min extra set after he said he loved us so much at Calgary 2018. Best $200 I ever spent
NBA Young Boy with the Mic walking the stage from one side to another, security in a suit behind him. One dude waving a durag or towel, two other dudes mouth mumbling the lyrics while another on his phone either taking pic, streaming live or checking to see how many Instagram models DM'd him... SDMH 😂🤣😂
.....NAH THAT AINT IT!! Don't forget about the stage hands walking in shadow land in the back of the stage back and forth across the backside of the DJ, One of the 7 possible people that could be Young Boy Manager on one corner of the stage (in view) on the phone, several random girls and other young people that clearly look like groupies on the corner of the stage.... yeah.....I think I accounted for everyone...yeah......well, maybe 😂🤣😂
I'm 45 and I'm from the Era of my favorite artist Tupac actually performing. We would actually purchase albums. The streaming era has really watered down the artist and the music. These new age rappers do not give a great performance and have no stage presence. I wouldn't pay nothing to see these new artist. I only attend the old school concerts.
I’m glad he said this because even when they can’t sell out arenas, artists should do small areas. Regular people spend money just to see them, so the least they could do is show up and perform. Much respect Curtiss 🤝🏾 Also to add: I went to a G Herbo concert a few years ago and dude is not lying. We waited until almost midnight just for him to show up. And he performed like 2-3 songs
That's because nowadays touring isn't prioritized. It's cool that artists today do have a lot of other avenues to blow up and make a ton of money but it hurts the shows often times. Back in the day the only real way for artists to get cash from their music was to go on tours and perform since their royalties would typically suck from their label. Most record contracts gave artists a lot of the cut of their touring and most of the cut from merchandise sales though. So going on the tour was the normal lifestyle of all types of genres. Nowadays touring is an afterthought. It isn't uncommon to see an artist blow up, schedule only 55 shows in one year and only show up to 25 of them and perform lackluster in 10 of those. They are also afraid of performing at smaller venues in say Nebraska because of backlash on social media if they're seen performing at a small club.
@@ellisberry5984 bro almost everything on mtv cribs was rented. Lol. I can only think of 2 people who didn’t rent mansions for the show. That was 50 cent. Who showed off the mansion he got from mike Tyson, and Paul walker. Oh and method man and red man. Who were trapping out of an apartment with a shoebox of dollars. Their different kinds of cats tho tbh. But yeah most of those people rented houses just for mtv to come thru.
I believe this is the death of the rappers that just treat the genre like a hustle. People are back to wanting real art. These rappers that treat the rap game like the dope game make the same song on different beats and over saturated the genre. It was cool with master p and them but it’s time for them to find some else to do and make room for the real artists.
But that's up to the fans too. We gotta demand more. And not just Hip-Hop. Across the board. Before I give you my hard earned money, you gotta earn it.
It's crazy in this Era when you can literally see the stones, Alice Cooper, a bunch of other classic rock acts, and some classic rap acts all for like $80 per person and the show is 100000x better than a $200 show for a current artist.....smh
Rap is entertainment and new rappers don't understand it. They treat a live performance as a studio session with their hommies or just on the block hanging out. They have too many people on stage just walking around having conversation with one another and they ad no value to the show. Ole school rapper put on a show, with dancers, stage props ect...
One thing the young ones are realizing is what it's like to deal with themselves instead of us older people... these artists are from their very own generation so this is healthy lesson in how they are perceived by other generations and what it feels like dealing with the way that they see the world and what us older folks put up with when dealing with them sometimes.
I'm 40, white, and have lived in brooklyn, NY my whole life. My parents listened to mostly rock, but weren't anti-black music at all. They liked Motown, 60s & 70s funk+soul, etc. So when I was a kid the music didn't seem completely foreign. It was exciting to hear the influence of the past in a new, still evolving style of music that came from just miles away from me. I was too young and clueless to realize gangsta rap was being marketed to white teens. I couldn't give a shit what the lyrics really were. The music just sounded great with geniuses like DJ Premier, Rza, Dre in the early 90s and then the Neptunes, Tim, Swizz Beats, Just Blaze in the late 90s and 2000s. I literally can't remember the last time hip hop excited me. Shit is terrible. It's like these kids are too uneducated to realize how good hip hop can be so this mediocrity sounds good to them.
The crazy part is I’ve gone to many concerts and only 3 stood out Tyler the creator ( wolf tour), Joey Badass world domination tour, & one of the best concert ever Method Man & Redman. The thing that stood out at these concerts were no backtracking and showed effort and love their fans. Meth and Red by far shows you when you practice your craft and love it, it will show Shit even the first time I preformed I remembered my lyrics and had no backtrack.
Went to LL cool j force tour this past Sunday his stuff was on point and over delivered show was incredible. LL proved why he is a true legend and goat 🐐 every one who performs put on a show
Young brother is $1 million percent correct. I was going to hip hop shows in the '80s when they really put on the performance like they had something to prove and they did. I would never pay money for a hip hop show today outside of Drake or Kanye
I see young buck never been to a Drake show. You may not like him, but check out the showmanship young brother, this is what we talking about. I see you don't get it though...jah
@@legenda4341. You definitely a basement keyboard warrior who's never been to a Drake concert. You can attack Drake for his quality but you can NEVER attack him for his performances. That dude takes his shows seriously, probably even more than Kanye, who is prone to erratic behavior. When talking hip-hop, you talk objectively or you shut up. If you want to give salty, emotional takes, go comment on a Taylor Swift video or something. Pop was invented for cats like you who can't think beyond your precious little feelings.
As a former local artist in my city, I didn't feel any way when he said "dance". I get your point but I performed my ass off rapping on stages. Stage presence is everything if you want ppl to pay to see you. Dancing doesn't always mean twerking or choreography - it can be you just doing your favorite "2 step" on stage while performing . It's entertaining and also shows the artist's personality. I got a lot of props back then for the energy I displayed at my shows
Man I’ve never seen why anyone would pay 200 to go see a rapper on stage walk back and forth: then y’all out there getting 💩 thrown at you; you gotta stand up the whole time etc..
@Curtis King TV, went to a Krs-One ft the jungle Brothers show in Akron, Ohio back in 2019 right before the pandemic. Best concert i ever been to. He rocked for almost 3hrs straight. The only break he took is when the mixer went out and even then he never stopped rapping. With no music he went accapella for about 25-30mins until they got the music going. A real mc fir sure.
I believe the real issue is the pricing of some of these shows. they have become unattainable to the common person. Nobody is going to pay $150 for a Lil Baby concert when Beyonce & Drake Tickets just went on sale at the same time and they are way more expensive.
This video is the truth. As an artist the ONE thing I always am told is that the people are glad that I actually rap over my shit. Sometimes if it's an unreleased song I'll play the track for full effect so they can hear but man if the songs playing you better be MOVING and engaging your crowd, Man stage presence as WHOLE in so important and these new artists do not have it. 19:59 YESS I got a FULL band together to play my music for my release show! This video is honestly so good for independent artists take notes and get creative!
I thank God that in the '70's We were blessed with great concerts by Bootsy, Parliament Funkadelics, Santana, Chaka Khan and Ohio Players. Now it's hit or miss if the group shows up to a show that you paid an arm and a leg for.
This makes me happy to be a metal fan. I can go to a show for $20-30, probably meet members of the bands, get fairly priced merch, and enjoy the show. Can’t even remember the last time I’ve seen a band show up late or not at all.
I am really enjoying your channel, great points were made. I’ve noticed that all of our faves from the 99s and 2000s are selling out tours because they are professionals, giving high quality shows FOR the fans. Seems like the new artists don’t care about the fans or being professionals.🤷♀️
I went to see AC/DC show years ago..my first Rock show ever yeah the tickets cost me damn near a mortgage payment and a half an😂 plus travel cost and hotel….let me tell you something, them dudes got to be 70+ and was turnt more than any rapper show I ever been to (except for Travis Scott and DMX)
I'm glad I mostly listen and go to underground Hip Hop concerts where they really rap live over instrumentals (Hieroglyphics, The Roots, Projected Blowed, Living Legends, etc.)
I have only been to 1 hip hop concert. R&B, Soca/Reggae and Gospel are the ONLY concerts WORTH it for those prices. Artists now aren’t coached in terms of development especially in Hip Hop. It’s all about the money for them and now it’s reflecting.
“It happens in multiple genres” in ALL my years years photographing (6) and attending (10) concerts I’ve only had ONE rock concert cancel, literally cancelled 1 hour before doors open and this was very recent. It’s not all genres. RAP Artist and the culture have the issue of calling people out, it ain’t cool to “complain” or “voice” your concern because in the culture you gotta be tough or get angry.
Sounds like you know little about music history, a quick search shows artists across multiple genres who have no showed, stop concerts early, or came on stage too high/drunk to perform.
@@Shadowlurkering I agree about Axl and other artist but the rap community consistently does this more often. I will also say to be fair that concert I mentioned above? The band never made an announcement on social media in any capacity so there is a huge possibility that this is a bigger issue than I could justify.
As someone who's gone to alot of underground and midlevel rappers' shows... 99% weren't "showing" much. The percentage is lower for mainstream artists but not much. But when you off that Henny & dro you still think you doin somethin. This moment might be what the game needs to hear right now.
As an independent artist, i feel all the facts, remarks, and statements bruh just made me myself, I take my performance to heart. My passion is ignited in my performance because the love and appreciation i have for music. The artistry put into the lyrics all of it is like an ensemble. How you incorporate the culture plays a role too, ppl. Know when an artist is serious about their content. I'm glad to see someone demanding quality performance now. Stage presence is still a major figure.💯
Love that video. I personally see festivals are a way better investment than seeing one rap artist individually UNLESS it is an artist that actually cares about their fans. I remembered when I went to a Denzel Curry concert and he performed the Tab1300 album and it was super hype, fun, and crazy. Denzel really put in effort at that concert and he came early to chat with us. That is what matters, the experience. These whack rappers need to feel the pain of taking fans from granted. Hitting them in they pockets is the only way to make them give a $hit
I feel like this happen, due to artist really not loving the craft. A lot a new artist would tell you they just started rapping two months ago and blew up. Why would you expect that person to be dedicated to the craft, it’s a money grab/hustle for them not a passion. It’s Lowkey sad.
That’s why I respect only a few artist like nipsey hussle , curren$y , wiz khalifa to name a few and a few others who actually perform their music without the DJ playin the lyrics in the background. The artist who are willing to loose their voice rapping every single word, word for word. Those are the real heros of rap
My Renaissance ticket cost me $127 with fees and I was mid bowl central view of that big beautiful gorgeous staging. That woman opened for herself singing ballads and then sang and danced for 2 1/2 hrs straight. Thats another caliber of show. You dont have to be a fan to appreciate the PRODUCTION and SHOWMANSHIP. Putting it simply EFFORT. These rappers lacking EFFORT.
Rappers treat their fans like they treat their women. Because you are there for them doesn't mean they'll be there for you. Bare minimum energy is the flex.
I totally agree, as a fan I would never pay that price for a show. Luckily, most shows I get media passes for that I want to see. I had this conversation the other day, ticket prices compared to festival prices are a far stretch now. Festivals cost millions in insurance, performance fees & security & venue rentals etc. An indoor venue that holds 5k shouldn't cost more than a couple g's to book plus technicians and security - the way I see it, the big ticket prices is just a way to stretch the profit on the fans dime.
Most rappers today have no stage performance (heck, the ones of the past didn’t even have a decent show), because they don’t work on one. Basically they act as if their work is done after they recorded the music. Artist development is out the door for most artist today. They’re getting what they deserve.
Great gems yesterday. Man I honestly can count on 1 hand from major artist that was worth going to. And I’ve been to a loooot of shows. I can confirm why fans are fed up.
Rappers who have substance / real message in their music are not struggling. Rappers who are “mainstream” with barely no substance are not NOT selling well, they are just playing venues that are too big for them. That’s all
I hear what saying on this video. I also agree. However, I went to It’s All A Blur tour with Drake and 21 July 6th, 2023 in The Raq and it was nothing short of exceptional! That’s how every rapper should have a concert. It was absolutely amazing! Pure class acts.
I been saying this for a long time. And it's the reason I stopped going to Concerts and just started going to live musical Shows instead. The production is better. You can get food, dress up take your girl and still have a nightcap.
Crazy he’s absolutely right. Last person I remember speaking on it was Kid Rock. And he said that he’s watched the quality of the shows that preformed aren’t even worthy of being called entertainment.😢
This is why I only go see artist like Curren$y because I already know he's gonna put on a good show... no background music playing because most times he has a band... and he raps his lyrics without his song playing in the background... #jetlife🤙
Yesterday I watched a video of meth and red at the rock the bells concert … remind you 52 and 53 YEARS OLD! The blew the roof off!!!!! Then UA-cam suggested a video of Travis Scott going live with Ye…. They didn’t perform a hole verse!!! FULL PLAYBACK!! They just shouted the end of some bar here and there!!! EMBARRASSING….
I been saying they're doing karaoke! 😂😂😂 when I perform it's just the instrumental and maybe the chorus cause you gotta PERFORM if you on stage! Where's the ego when you need it!? Lol
We all hated when older people used to start a sentence with "back in my day..." However, I came up in the age when hip hop was just becoming popular. Acts like Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five put on a show. The Treacherous Three were also showmen. They made their money by getting you to come out to their live performances again and again and again. You purchased their records because you'd seen them live and you felt a connection to their movement. Back in my day, that was what it meant to be an artist.
I APPRECIATE THIS VIDEO AND IT MADE ME RETHINK MY APPROACH AS AN ARTIST IM SHARING THIS BECAUSE THIS VIDEO MATTERS FR THESE ARE DOING TOO MUCH TO COME SEE YOU TO BE SCAMMED I SEE WHY PPL THROWIN SHIT AT SHOWS NOW
S/O to u for understanding what imeant because i left a whole word out typing too fast but it is fasho. see you at the top boss appreciate these gems as well.@@CurtissKingTV
I'm glad they are struggling to because why would people keep giving their money to folks who do not respect u especially in the times we are living now save your time & money please
Some of these rappers are not even performing. Using playback the whole time or running out of breath. Not paying hundreds of dollars for not. Damn unprofessional professionals.🤨
One of the reasons I stick to small venues, pop up shows, free shows, weekly/monthly beatvitationals, record store shows, etc Edit: when you mentioned that fine line, I couldn’t help think of if that spike lee film, Bamboozled.
I went early to a prince concert (RIP) and i listened to him and the band outside the coliseum doors rehearse for a hour before the show and hes prince and always performs
Have this new generation of hip hop ever wonder how artist from the 80's and 90's can be missing from the scene for years and show up and perform at a award show or do a cameo at a concert and literally have every body on their feet young and old partying and bringing the house down it's called talent & consistency
Excellent video. I agree completely with your closing thought. I didn't become a huge fan of travis scott's music until i saw him at rolling loud live and got to be a part of the experience back in 2018.
Nope. Festivals are selling out. Dubstep DJ's are selling out venues, rock bands are selling out venues. Bots are the big problem. Record companies use bots to push industry plants. Industry plants exist for several reasons, but Iusetobepay is right about everything. Most of these rappers are not artists. Most of them are not musicians. They have no showmanship. Also the fans are a problem. The last 4 hip hop shows I went to in my city had shootings
This is what I'm practicing and singing 100% Live is a best feeling ever. Bringing new emotions to the show and I'm building that this year. It's kinder working so far and people are loving it
The difference from then and now the rappers and any other artists wanted to put on a show. It was their passion. It’s all about the dollar and showing off now and it’s not worth it. That’s why you can go see New Edition etc. they know that they’re real entertainers and it’s what we want.
first time i caught the curtiss king tv show was surprisingly good, the point you made was valid. you show both sides, and you was very objective, good show
Their attitude is right there in their lyrics. They have a death wish, they are dealing with trauma, they don't trust women, they are all about their money and their homies, their guns and their drugs. OF COURSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU. THEY TOLD YOU.
That's true... But your never supposed to even trust men. It says it in the Bible
@@christopherjameswright9614 but if a mf tell u they not about sh!t please believe it. That's not the same as trusting man. That's using discernment. 😘
It’s why I stopped listening to rap and hip hop unfortunately the quality of music has greatly declined.
“When people show you who they are, believe them the first time.” - Maya Angelou 🎯
@@Curious.JenJen You trust women ?
I used to do Artist Management and THEE AMOUNT of Artists that literally REFUSE to practice bettering their shows is INSANE.
I can only imagine 😂😂😂
Same. I wanted to help some artist before hitting record pools, open mics,etc. They acted like rehearsals was beneath them and they got it. One of the many reasons I gave up on that profession.
Exactly, and when you have a personal relationships with these artist and you give them some insight on how they can improve their performance they look at you like you are a hater. Its crazy, been there. At that point you just have to close your mouth, stand back and watch them crash and burn.
That is why I am not in the industry
@@Crucial1-m9fI’m glad you ain’t cuz you gotta do some rituals to be in that industry
This is 100 percent on point. Artists like Michael Jackson and Prince were tour masters because they knew the importance of stage presence and production value.If your tours were whack then you didn't go touring for long. DMX had such an electric atmosphere for his concerts. Today's rappers are too cool to dance and learn new skills. Get a real hype man, a real band, or a real dance crew.
It's freaking ridiculous and yet concert prices are through the roof.
50 Cent is killing it rn with the Final Lap Tour and he did not disappoint .
@@1EvilEastSide26I saw 50 cent in Germany in 03…absolutely amazing show…still one of the best I’ve ever seen…it was electrifying
I wanted to see x soo bad when I was younger. Sadly I won’t get to see him anymore.
I saw Michael Jackson in 1996. It made me a fan. His stage show was incredible. His presense was felt throughout the audience. It was my first big concert and still is one of the best. I don't know any modern artist who can do that.
Most rappers are not worth paying to see in this generation
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Facts
That’s cause they skipped my generation of artists and signed weirdo’s now the music industry is failing it’s a known fact they can’t recoup their money from these artists 😂😂😂😂
Yes!
I don't know why they wanna spend their money on an artist that you don't understand what the heck they're saying. It's just a good beat on the record. Keep your money.
This is what happens when the craft is infiltrated and inundated with bag chasing hustlers more than actual naturally gifted rappers who respect the art even if they do want to make money. If they’re gonna half step in the studio, if they’re not going to show love and care about their art then expect them to show the same lack of care to be at their shows.
Faaaaaaaaaaaactsss
Artist are struggling to sell tickets, is because this rap era is trash and people are waking up. Record labels going out of business. The real talented rappers are independent. The Radio stations where I am even know this, they always playing recycle old school mixes everyday....
FINALLY!!!!!
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These rappers just suck. The worse generation of rap ever. The record labels new way of business is killing rappers and puttting them in prison ..
The real problem is the fans who expect mediocre artists to give them something extraordinary. You can listen to some of these guys music and tell that they aren’t going to give a great show. The songs be lackluster so what do you think the performance is going to be? A lot of these artist barely put time into making the songs and albums but y’all think they’re going to rehearse and put a show together for you???😂😂😂 the fans are the real problem, y’all the ones put these guys on and always taking up for their basicness lol
THIS IS THE ONE
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Yup. People hype up these corny artists who are all ab the aEsThEtIc and ViBe, until they realize that shit wears off overnight
Speak on it 👏🏾
The problem is a lot of these artists get way too comfortable with them getting a massive amount of fame with also gaining a whole lot of money not from just their advance but from other ventures on top of that if they don’t start selling more tickets the record labels are gonna start looking at them funny and say listen if you don’t start selling more tickets we are not gonna support you at all because we’re wasting money on you
I’m an old head, 49. Was in a pretty “locally” successful hiphop group in the early 2000’s. RAPPING OVER THE SONG?!?!? It was 4 of us, we did backing vocals for each other and we actually REHEARSED our shows. Spitting over your song was just UNHEARD OF!!!
Facts bro
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Facts! Amen 🙏
Facts, it insults my brain cells to hear alleged artist performing over their track, they don’t even hide it. It’s so subpar
Might as well just Milli Vanilla it at that point, at least it'll sound better, lol.
This is why i don't even bother with rap anymore. If your heart isn't in it i don't wanna hear it
Exactly
They are Not 🚫 SELLING because people need to EAT and pay bills 💸 instead of throwing money 💵💰 AWAY to people don't care about them anyways 😞
Preach sis!
That's def my reason ..
I wouldn't go for free
Only LUMP SUM I'm going to SPEND is on MEEEEE
@@jstarzz3780 wys
This era is showing everybody why supporting artists that really care and have passion for music should be in the forefront more. Oppose to these so called artist that ain’t even REAL artists fr🤣🤦🏾♂️
Lmao 🤣 jadakiss said it best during his versus. This is Hip Hop not rap karaoke on Apple Music 😂😂😂
One of the best that has ever done it. A living legend.
But how they going to make money cause Jadakiss still owes money in his 360
@@wallstreetbella24 he's financially free
I paid $60 for 2 tickets to see Little Brother’s reunion tour in 2019. They had a live DJ and a live set for an hour and a half. Lupe Fiasco was out here with a live set for 2 hours for like $40. Run The Jewels was $60 with an hour and a half of hits.
Y’all can keep these new dudes if I can hear slightly older rappers with wider catalogs for a fraction of the price.
Right. I saw Nas and Wu last year for less that $50 a ticket. Dope sets too not this rhyme over the track bullshit.
run the jewels is great live.
He ain't wrong. The day lip-syncing became okay, live black music died. Also, for artists taking fans for granted, it's generational. Society at large is a lot less respectful. This is how many people from this generation treat each other.
Exactly.. I just don’t understand how they have to lip sync to their own RAP song🤦🏾♀️
Lip synching has been around for a long time. *cough cough* most artists lip-synched on Soul Train
@@CleanMusicLover229 no doubt but it was a secret back then. Now, I see artists missing some of their own vocals but it still plays in the background and they dont even care. 💀
Maybe it's a talent thing. So many artists today are manufactured. Honestly, most of these guys sound similar. If I didn't have to put blood, sweat, and tears into honing my craft, would I even have a craft to hone? Artists had to stand out once upon a time in order to get heard. I mean, even with big money backing back in the day, it was super hard for subpar talent to go that far. Now though...
@@ynmonroe exactly
I saw the The Foo Fighters after they canceled due to Dave having a sore throat. They came back on the last leg of the tour and played 3.5 straight hours and an 45 min extra set after he said he loved us so much at Calgary 2018. Best $200 I ever spent
NBA Young Boy with the Mic walking the stage from one side to another, security in a suit behind him. One dude waving a durag or towel, two other dudes mouth mumbling the lyrics while another on his phone either taking pic, streaming live or checking to see how many Instagram models DM'd him... SDMH 😂🤣😂
.....NAH THAT AINT IT!! Don't forget about the stage hands walking in shadow land in the back of the stage back and forth across the backside of the DJ, One of the 7 possible people that could be Young Boy Manager on one corner of the stage (in view) on the phone, several random girls and other young people that clearly look like groupies on the corner of the stage.... yeah.....I think I accounted for everyone...yeah......well, maybe 😂🤣😂
Bad seats for concerts now are $200. Great seats are thousands. Good seats are like $400/$500 .. it’s wild.
I'm 45 and I'm from the Era of my favorite artist Tupac actually performing. We would actually purchase albums. The streaming era has really watered down the artist and the music. These new age rappers do not give a great performance and have no stage presence. I wouldn't pay nothing to see these new artist. I only attend the old school concerts.
Tupac's performances were very similar to the current rappers. MC Hammer would given you a show like a Michael Jackson, James Brown and Bobby Brown
@@CleanMusicLover229 None of the names that you mentioned were in the same Genre as Tupac. 🤣
Ol School concerts are selling out these days yesss worth every reasonable price they ask for 🙏🏾♥️🙌🏾
@@Mrs.Fluellen MC Hammer is in the same genre as Tupac. Hammer, Kid N Play, Heavy D & Big Daddy Kane would have given you a show like a singer.
I’m glad he said this because even when they can’t sell out arenas, artists should do small areas. Regular people spend money just to see them, so the least they could do is show up and perform. Much respect Curtiss 🤝🏾
Also to add: I went to a G Herbo concert a few years ago and dude is not lying. We waited until almost midnight just for him to show up. And he performed like 2-3 songs
That's because nowadays touring isn't prioritized. It's cool that artists today do have a lot of other avenues to blow up and make a ton of money but it hurts the shows often times. Back in the day the only real way for artists to get cash from their music was to go on tours and perform since their royalties would typically suck from their label. Most record contracts gave artists a lot of the cut of their touring and most of the cut from merchandise sales though. So going on the tour was the normal lifestyle of all types of genres. Nowadays touring is an afterthought. It isn't uncommon to see an artist blow up, schedule only 55 shows in one year and only show up to 25 of them and perform lackluster in 10 of those. They are also afraid of performing at smaller venues in say Nebraska because of backlash on social media if they're seen performing at a small club.
Bruh 😭🤦🏾♂️
@@TheSeattleGamerwow I didn’t know that
Like they got better things to do, than perform for the people that support their lavish lifestyles; that they're all on MTV Cribs flossing.
@@ellisberry5984 bro almost everything on mtv cribs was rented. Lol. I can only think of 2 people who didn’t rent mansions for the show.
That was 50 cent. Who showed off the mansion he got from mike Tyson, and Paul walker.
Oh and method man and red man. Who were trapping out of an apartment with a shoebox of dollars.
Their different kinds of cats tho tbh.
But yeah most of those people rented houses just for mtv to come thru.
I believe this is the death of the rappers that just treat the genre like a hustle. People are back to wanting real art. These rappers that treat the rap game like the dope game make the same song on different beats and over saturated the genre. It was cool with master p and them but it’s time for them to find some else to do and make room for the real artists.
That because many of the rappers are thugs.
But that's up to the fans too. We gotta demand more. And not just Hip-Hop. Across the board. Before I give you my hard earned money, you gotta earn it.
💯 I’ve been saying this for years. Rap became a “get rich quick scheme”.
Look at Tobe Nwigwe!! Putting on a good show doesn't always mean loads of money. Right from the start his videos and shows were pure art.
Love Tobe...🔥
It's crazy in this Era when you can literally see the stones, Alice Cooper, a bunch of other classic rock acts, and some classic rap acts all for like $80 per person and the show is 100000x better than a $200 show for a current artist.....smh
Rap is entertainment and new rappers don't understand it. They treat a live performance as a studio session with their hommies or just on the block hanging out. They have too many people on stage just walking around having conversation with one another and they ad no value to the show. Ole school rapper put on a show, with dancers, stage props ect...
Michael Jackso and Prince gave you a life time experience every show.
Absolutely 💯% Facts.
And Madonna. They don't make them like that anymore.
One thing the young ones are realizing is what it's like to deal with themselves instead of us older people... these artists are from their very own generation so this is healthy lesson in how they are perceived by other generations and what it feels like dealing with the way that they see the world and what us older folks put up with when dealing with them sometimes.
thanks good comment
Extremely well , said ❤❤❤
I'm 40, white, and have lived in brooklyn, NY my whole life. My parents listened to mostly rock, but weren't anti-black music at all. They liked Motown, 60s & 70s funk+soul, etc. So when I was a kid the music didn't seem completely foreign. It was exciting to hear the influence of the past in a new, still evolving style of music that came from just miles away from me. I was too young and clueless to realize gangsta rap was being marketed to white teens. I couldn't give a shit what the lyrics really were. The music just sounded great with geniuses like DJ Premier, Rza, Dre in the early 90s and then the Neptunes, Tim, Swizz Beats, Just Blaze in the late 90s and 2000s. I literally can't remember the last time hip hop excited me. Shit is terrible. It's like these kids are too uneducated to realize how good hip hop can be so this mediocrity sounds good to them.
The crazy part is I’ve gone to many concerts and only 3 stood out Tyler the creator ( wolf tour), Joey Badass world domination tour, & one of the best concert ever Method Man & Redman.
The thing that stood out at these concerts were no backtracking and showed effort and love their fans.
Meth and Red by far shows you when you practice your craft and love it, it will show
Shit even the first time I preformed I remembered my lyrics and had no backtrack.
The Rap game is over, every coast had there chance to shine, no other coast it can go to, where now Fiji??
Went to LL cool j force tour this past Sunday his stuff was on point and over delivered show was incredible. LL proved why he is a true legend and goat 🐐 every one who performs put on a show
Young brother is $1 million percent correct. I was going to hip hop shows in the '80s when they really put on the performance like they had something to prove and they did. I would never pay money for a hip hop show today outside of Drake or Kanye
Because they appricated fans in 80s 90s even 2000s rappers respected they fans
Drake lol
I see young buck never been to a Drake show. You may not like him, but check out the showmanship young brother, this is what we talking about. I see you don't get it though...jah
@@legenda4341 Drake actually puts on a show.
@@legenda4341. You definitely a basement keyboard warrior who's never been to a Drake concert. You can attack Drake for his quality but you can NEVER attack him for his performances. That dude takes his shows seriously, probably even more than Kanye, who is prone to erratic behavior. When talking hip-hop, you talk objectively or you shut up. If you want to give salty, emotional takes, go comment on a Taylor Swift video or something. Pop was invented for cats like you who can't think beyond your precious little feelings.
As a former local artist in my city, I didn't feel any way when he said "dance". I get your point but I performed my ass off rapping on stages. Stage presence is everything if you want ppl to pay to see you. Dancing doesn't always mean twerking or choreography - it can be you just doing your favorite "2 step" on stage while performing . It's entertaining and also shows the artist's personality. I got a lot of props back then for the energy I displayed at my shows
Busta is the king of performing he gives u a show show for real these cats these days is lazy and be drugged up bunch of junkies
@@buddahkahn6911 facts!!!!!!
These rappers just suck. The worse generation of rap ever. The record labels new way of business is killing rappers and puttting them in prison ..
$300 to $500 for tickets I’ll watch online lol
Man I’ve never seen why anyone would pay 200 to go see a rapper on stage walk back and forth: then y’all out there getting 💩 thrown at you; you gotta stand up the whole time etc..
@Curtis King TV, went to a Krs-One ft the jungle Brothers show in Akron, Ohio back in 2019 right before the pandemic. Best concert i ever been to. He rocked for almost 3hrs straight. The only break he took is when the mixer went out and even then he never stopped rapping. With no music he went accapella for about 25-30mins until they got the music going. A real mc fir sure.
I saw KRS-1 end of June in NYC he had a live band and DJ's and he did a accapella set gave a great show
I'll pay to see Krs 1 anytime.
I believe the real issue is the pricing of some of these shows. they have become unattainable to the common person. Nobody is going to pay $150 for a Lil Baby concert when Beyonce & Drake Tickets just went on sale at the same time and they are way more expensive.
This video is the truth.
As an artist the ONE thing I always am told is that the people are glad that I actually rap over my shit.
Sometimes if it's an unreleased song I'll play the track for full effect so they can hear but man if the songs playing you better be MOVING and engaging your crowd,
Man stage presence as WHOLE in so important and these new artists do not have it.
19:59 YESS
I got a FULL band together to play my music for my release show!
This video is honestly so good for independent artists take notes and get creative!
Lil Baby only couldn’t sell out 6 of his shows out of 30+ shows on this tour I swear social media be gassin shit
But as big as a artist he is those shows that was cancelled those places he supposed to showed out.
Kendrick Lamar's stage performance is amazing too. Especially for his most recent tour.
I thank God that in the '70's We were blessed with great concerts by Bootsy, Parliament Funkadelics, Santana, Chaka Khan and Ohio Players. Now it's hit or miss if the group shows up to a show that you paid an arm and a leg for.
This makes me happy to be a metal fan. I can go to a show for $20-30, probably meet members of the bands, get fairly priced merch, and enjoy the show. Can’t even remember the last time I’ve seen a band show up late or not at all.
I am really enjoying your channel, great points were made. I’ve noticed that all of our faves from the 99s and 2000s are selling out tours because they are professionals, giving high quality shows FOR the fans. Seems like the new artists don’t care about the fans or being professionals.🤷♀️
I went to see AC/DC show years ago..my first Rock show ever yeah the tickets cost me damn near a mortgage payment and a half an😂 plus travel cost and hotel….let me tell you something, them dudes got to be 70+ and was turnt more than any rapper show I ever been to (except for Travis Scott and DMX)
Man this was eye opening and the way you expound on this situation was graceful and insightful. Thank you! 🙏
I can’t believe these rappers are charging $200 to them. This is crazy.
The legacy rap acts still understand the concept of entertainment! Putting on a good show!
I'm glad I mostly listen and go to underground Hip Hop concerts where they really rap live over instrumentals (Hieroglyphics, The Roots, Projected Blowed, Living Legends, etc.)
these artist need to start stepping their game up because festivals are taking over.
I have only been to 1 hip hop concert. R&B, Soca/Reggae and Gospel are the ONLY concerts WORTH it for those prices. Artists now aren’t coached in terms of development especially in Hip Hop. It’s all about the money for them and now it’s reflecting.
“It happens in multiple genres” in ALL my years years photographing (6) and attending (10) concerts I’ve only had ONE rock concert cancel, literally cancelled 1 hour before doors open and this was very recent. It’s not all genres. RAP Artist and the culture have the issue of calling people out, it ain’t cool to “complain” or “voice” your concern because in the culture you gotta be tough or get angry.
Or risk being called a hater if you complain, even if your issue is valid.
Sounds like you know little about music history, a quick search shows artists across multiple genres who have no showed, stop concerts early, or came on stage too high/drunk to perform.
@@Shadowlurkering what does that have to do with music "history"??
@@warrenlewis3977 Anyone who talks about Axl Rose will likely bring up his issues during concerts, plenty of acts are tied to incidents at concerts.
@@Shadowlurkering I agree about Axl and other artist but the rap community consistently does this more often. I will also say to be fair that concert I mentioned above? The band never made an announcement on social media in any capacity so there is a huge possibility that this is a bigger issue than I could justify.
As someone who's gone to alot of underground and midlevel rappers' shows... 99% weren't "showing" much. The percentage is lower for mainstream artists but not much. But when you off that Henny & dro you still think you doin somethin. This moment might be what the game needs to hear right now.
The Drugs . Preach 💯💯😂
As an independent artist, i feel all the facts, remarks, and statements bruh just made me myself, I take my performance to heart. My passion is ignited in my performance because the love and appreciation i have for music. The artistry put into the lyrics all of it is like an ensemble. How you incorporate the culture plays a role too, ppl. Know when an artist is serious about their content. I'm glad to see someone demanding quality performance now. Stage presence is still a major figure.💯
Love that video. I personally see festivals are a way better investment than seeing one rap artist individually UNLESS it is an artist that actually cares about their fans. I remembered when I went to a Denzel Curry concert and he performed the Tab1300 album and it was super hype, fun, and crazy. Denzel really put in effort at that concert and he came early to chat with us. That is what matters, the experience. These whack rappers need to feel the pain of taking fans from granted. Hitting them in they pockets is the only way to make them give a $hit
I love Pay, I’m glad you reacted to him!
I agree 100% performances need to have more production value to ensure the return of investment from their audience.
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I feel like this happen, due to artist really not loving the craft. A lot a new artist would tell you they just started rapping two months ago and blew up. Why would you expect that person to be dedicated to the craft, it’s a money grab/hustle for them not a passion. It’s Lowkey sad.
That’s why I respect only a few artist like nipsey hussle , curren$y , wiz khalifa to name a few and a few others who actually perform their music without the DJ playin the lyrics in the background. The artist who are willing to loose their voice rapping every single word, word for word. Those are the real heros of rap
Not a huge Beyonce fan but I didn't have to work at one of her concerts here in Washington DC and let me tell you.. she puts on a helluva SHOW💯.
My Renaissance ticket cost me $127 with fees and I was mid bowl central view of that big beautiful gorgeous staging. That woman opened for herself singing ballads and then sang and danced for 2 1/2 hrs straight. Thats another caliber of show. You dont have to be a fan to appreciate the PRODUCTION and SHOWMANSHIP. Putting it simply EFFORT. These rappers lacking EFFORT.
Rappers treat their fans like they treat their women. Because you are there for them doesn't mean they'll be there for you. Bare minimum energy is the flex.
I saw KRS-1 perform end of June in NYC he had a live band and DJ and he performed acapella no fake props just great rhymes and stage presence
I totally agree, as a fan I would never pay that price for a show. Luckily, most shows I get media passes for that I want to see. I had this conversation the other day, ticket prices compared to festival prices are a far stretch now. Festivals cost millions in insurance, performance fees & security & venue rentals etc. An indoor venue that holds 5k shouldn't cost more than a couple g's to book plus technicians and security - the way I see it, the big ticket prices is just a way to stretch the profit on the fans dime.
Most rappers today have no stage performance (heck, the ones of the past didn’t even have a decent show), because they don’t work on one. Basically they act as if their work is done after they recorded the music. Artist development is out the door for most artist today. They’re getting what they deserve.
This was a outstanding video that actually makes sense by this young man
Not to even mention the $100 worth of additional fees Live Nation, Ticketmaster, etc are charging. Smh
Music Festivals are really where it’s at.
Great gems yesterday. Man I honestly can count on 1 hand from major artist that was worth going to. And I’ve been to a loooot of shows. I can confirm why fans are fed up.
"The kids are fed up" lmao 🤣 😂
Meanwhile Nas, Lauryn Hill and Wu-Tang Clan selling out arenas.
Rappers who have substance / real message in their music are not struggling. Rappers who are “mainstream” with barely no substance are not NOT selling well, they are just playing venues that are too big for them. That’s all
Saw future in Oakland this year & I’ll say he put on a good show. Show started at 7. He came on around 9/9:30 show wasn’t over until midnight.
16:55 Bruh 😂😂😂 my brain registered Micular as a real word until you said something about it 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣 I feel like a bad influence now
@@CurtissKingTV All Good bro, put that on a shirt 😂😂😂
I hear what saying on this video. I also agree. However, I went to It’s All A Blur tour with Drake and 21 July 6th, 2023 in The Raq and it was nothing short of exceptional! That’s how every rapper should have a concert. It was absolutely amazing! Pure class acts.
21 Savage was straight trash. Drake carried the whole show.
1 word. Inflation. If it’s between gas, groceries, rent, meds or a show.. the least needed goes out the door always.
I been saying this for a long time. And it's the reason I stopped going to Concerts and just started going to live musical Shows instead. The production is better. You can get food, dress up take your girl and still have a nightcap.
Crazy he’s absolutely right. Last person I remember speaking on it was Kid Rock. And he said that he’s watched the quality of the shows that preformed aren’t even worthy of being called entertainment.😢
I'm every bit glad I watched this! I know I will need this one day, when that day comes, I will be back to thank you!
This is why I only go see artist like Curren$y because I already know he's gonna put on a good show... no background music playing because most times he has a band... and he raps his lyrics without his song playing in the background... #jetlife🤙
a good artist can make good music, but a great artist can entertain.
That part ❤
They aren't that good to be that arrogant. Imagine someone paying to see you and you don't show up.
50 cent didn't have trouble selling his tickets.
This I why I prefer rock concerts, real instruments real talent on display just raw energy 🔥
Yesterday I watched a video of meth and red at the rock the bells concert … remind you 52 and 53 YEARS OLD! The blew the roof off!!!!!
Then UA-cam suggested a video of Travis Scott going live with Ye…. They didn’t perform a hole verse!!! FULL PLAYBACK!! They just shouted the end of some bar here and there!!!
EMBARRASSING….
I went to Don Toliver’s concert in ATL last month and the set was great with an engaging performance.
I been saying they're doing karaoke! 😂😂😂 when I perform it's just the instrumental and maybe the chorus cause you gotta PERFORM if you on stage! Where's the ego when you need it!? Lol
Exactly, most of these rappers can’t perform for shit. And they love using the actual track to cover up the fact they have no breath or voice control.
We all hated when older people used to start a sentence with "back in my day..." However, I came up in the age when hip hop was just becoming popular. Acts like Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five put on a show. The Treacherous Three were also showmen. They made their money by getting you to come out to their live performances again and again and again. You purchased their records because you'd seen them live and you felt a connection to their movement. Back in my day, that was what it meant to be an artist.
Great video! My favorite part was when he said he could go to Rollin Loud for $300 and you were sitting there scratching your beard! …. Lololololol
I APPRECIATE THIS VIDEO AND IT MADE ME RETHINK MY APPROACH AS AN ARTIST IM SHARING THIS BECAUSE THIS VIDEO MATTERS FR THESE ARE DOING TOO MUCH TO COME SEE YOU TO BE SCAMMED I SEE WHY PPL THROWIN SHIT AT SHOWS NOW
It’s on us now 🙏🏽🛠️
Me too
S/O to u for understanding what imeant because i left a whole word out typing too fast but it is fasho. see you at the top boss appreciate these gems as well.@@CurtissKingTV
I'm glad they are struggling to because why would people keep giving their money to folks who do not respect u especially in the times we are living now save your time & money please
Some of these rappers are not even performing. Using playback the whole time or running out of breath. Not paying hundreds of dollars for not. Damn unprofessional professionals.🤨
If I had a concert I’d have somebody dressed like a dripped out Anubis and wear a oversized chain with a pyramid moving in the background 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
14:57 had me dying cause it’s tru 😂
One of the reasons I stick to small venues, pop up shows, free shows, weekly/monthly beatvitationals, record store shows, etc
Edit: when you mentioned that fine line, I couldn’t help think of if that spike lee film, Bamboozled.
as someone who just went to a 50 Cent concert yesterday, I'm glad to say that none of that happened. I wonder if this is a newer rapper thing 🤔
I went early to a prince concert (RIP) and i listened to him and the band outside the coliseum doors rehearse for a hour before the show and hes prince and always performs
Legends doing what Legends do ☔️
💜💜💜💜💜
If there was a union, this would be regulated easily.
The thing is Blacks are tired of the negative shit these rappers promote. We want real music not to listen to another mans fantasy power trip.
I agree
facts i make inspirational shit motivational shit
Have this new generation of hip hop ever wonder how artist from the 80's and 90's can be missing from the scene for years and show up and perform at a award show or do a cameo at a concert and literally have every body on their feet young and old partying and bringing the house down it's called talent & consistency
Excellent video. I agree completely with your closing thought. I didn't become a huge fan of travis scott's music until i saw him at rolling loud live and got to be a part of the experience back in 2018.
inflation is why shows are being cancelled. people just dont really have the money right now.
exactly
U might well say rap is comin ta a end things changing fast
Nope. Festivals are selling out. Dubstep DJ's are selling out venues, rock bands are selling out venues. Bots are the big problem. Record companies use bots to push industry plants. Industry plants exist for several reasons, but Iusetobepay is right about everything. Most of these rappers are not artists. Most of them are not musicians. They have no showmanship. Also the fans are a problem. The last 4 hip hop shows I went to in my city had shootings
@@dickdiamonds3410 Well said!
Thats a small percentage of it. Inflation mostly affecting the retail industry. These era of rappers just suck, and people waking up to it.
This is what I'm practicing and singing 100% Live is a best feeling ever. Bringing new emotions to the show and I'm building that this year. It's kinder working so far and people are loving it
The difference from then and now the rappers and any other artists wanted to put on a show. It was their passion. It’s all about the dollar and showing off now and it’s not worth it. That’s why you can go see New Edition etc. they know that they’re real entertainers and it’s what we want.
first time i caught the curtiss king tv show
was surprisingly good, the point you made was valid.
you show both sides, and you was very objective, good show