Logic: An Example of How to Kill A Rap Career
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2022
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At almost every turn, Logic has found himself as the butt of the cultural joke. Ridiculed for everything from his insistence on discussing his biraciality to his willingness to present himself as an open book to an inherently cynical audience, Logic has been written off by no shortage of fans over the years. But even as the world took from him with one hand, it gave with the other.
Through it all, he’s retained a passionate fanbase that’d basically ensure that every time that he dropped a record, it skyrocketed to the top of the charts. Or at least that was the case until very recently when, after years of weathering PR disasters and public sleights from others, Logic’s stock appeared to take a notable drop.
But before we get there, we need to look at when Logic’s path through hip-hop began to veer off from the norm.
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Logic is Another example When critics/haters/fans tear down a artist. To me he is a good MC.
And the fact that they keep making videos about him makes it apparent that he’s a staple in hip hop. The ones who hate him keep him relevant beside his fan base so he’s def winning
Exactly. This is why I don't take pages like this seriously. This page has dissed Logic, Joyner, Dax, Eminem, Hopsin, Royce, G-Eazy, and alot of other great artists. Meanwhile, they say stupid shit like
"This is why Lil Wayne's worst album, is his most influential",
And
"Why clout rap beats woke rap". Like na bro, we get you like shit music. No need to lie about it on your own UA-cam page
Dudes body of work speaks for itself, it’s really sad that he gets the hate considering he was really a pioneer for rap careers being built from YT. Always gonna be a Bobby fan, Welcome to Forever is one of my favorite MIXTAPES
Same
I don't think its "Hate" so much even around me we all know him, and the beats the songs for the most part are dope no lie
Its the CONSTANT "I'm black"... "I'm black"
its just weak and over done
How many times you heard Eminem go on about how he is white and its so hard for him..he doesn't really ever...
Again I think he good , its just the constant focus on him talking about his father and being black over and over
even these "Critics" its the same thing "The man is dope but he goes on about the same thing"
Logic has lyrics that are dope, but his stories are the same thing...song after song
He is just an example of someone whose sensitivity was a gift and a curse. He is way more in tune with the human struggle than most rap artists today. (Hip hop, in general, used to be that way). And he is as empathetic to humanity as it gets. He is emotional. He is affected by criticism. He does take things to heart. He is everything that most of us are as human beings. He is just open about all of these things in a genre that doesn't value or respect them. Most artists who have shown their sensitive side have had to temper it with a harder side to stay relevant. Logic is just a talented artist in a genre that has no respect for what he stands for. That part is not his fault.
Well said. Logic could have been fine if he just ACTED like he never cared about the controversy
I was a logic fan when he was dropping mixtapes. I liked his flow and beat selection and his freestyles sounded good, but then I realized how much he was trying to sound like Drake when Drake was really taking off. I noticed how all his freestyles sound the same. I noticed his rather basic and kinda predictable rhyme schemes. He's got flow and hes got his sound, but lacks originality in other areas. I hadn't heard he was biting K dot and j cole but I'm not surprised in the least bit. Xxxtentacion and Juice Wrld were just as sensitive but had way more originality.
Very well said
“His sensitivity” he exploits people’s shit. His stupid ass suicide hotline song is so bad. He shows no understanding of mental health. It’s one of the dumbest songs I’ve ever heard. He may be sensitive but probably just an idiot trying too hard.
Interesting. I think we’ve all heard the saying, “I’m an artist and I’m sensitive about my ish”.
I don’t think there’s any artist who isn’t affected by criticism even if they can hide it very well.
There are people who are built for this tough and unforgiving industry and those who aren’t.
We’ve seen Kanye rap for years about his critics and his insecurity. And yet Ye is still here moving forward (I hope mentally now still). Ye’s Netflix doc was an eye opener on how his own people were trying to keep him boxed in as a producer but he fought for himself to get out of that box.
When you say, “genre that doesn’t value or respect them [the topics Logic discusses]”. Kendrick, Cole, and many others within the genre discuss the same topics he does (guilt, questioning identity, mental illness, suicide, etc.). I don’t think we should blame the genre. It’s certain peoples WITHIN the genre who’ve been shading Logic. But only Logic can control his actions and reactions. I feel for him because I’m an empath but like I said: not everyone is built for the music industry.
I didn’t even know Logic was hated so much. Brilliant rapper in my opinion
I don’t think he’s actually hated that much people just need things to gossip about
@@patch1459agreed. a lot of people dont wanna admit it but hes a great rapper. sure, he definitely has some bars that are cringe (or corny since thats pretty much all people say about him nowadays) im a logic fan and even i can say that he gotta good amount of lyrics that make me side eye him but as a whole, hes a great lyricist who can put together a great song
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Naaah. He just biracial guys. Lol
You probably didn't know Logic was hated in the hip hop world because you don't know a lot about hip hop (and that's why you like Logic)
Shout out to the stupid specialized media and rap "influencers" trashing out a dude who definitely can rhyme, while theres a bunch of bs rappers and trappers on streaming playlists. Sick.
For real
He can't rhyme or rap no more tho. He ran out of things to talk about. Let's be real.
@@user-sw4md4mj2k His latest albums have been pure gems.
For real. He is way better than these trash rappers that think there good.
Just cuz he can rhyme doesn’t mean his songs are any good
Logic has nothing to prove. Happy that the man is being true to himself and making time for his family. I wouldn’t wanna get back in the spotlight if I was being treated this way either. He’s gotten a lot of people through tough times, and to me, he’ll always be one of the greats
Facts
This guy hasn't gotten anything but emo teens out of their illusion depression. Made a 1 800 song about suicide then jumps on a song called "Homicide". Get the F out of here with that crap. Festering on some shit someone said about your professional career for 6 years?
He does continually act like he had something to prove, he can’t have a conversation without mentioning he’s half black and mentioning he’s ditch
@@JC-bs5pd he doesnt have this issue as much but i still see people posting on social making fun of him claiming hes the whitest person ever and those posts blow up too its not just a few people who dont believe it but yeah was pretty annoying in some of the songs, the biracial bars
everything in music/hip hop is subjective. Logic majority of his career has done nothing but stay true to who he is and that’s one of the best forms of measure with art. Transparency. I get a dislike for the music, but the man should be respected.
Fr
nah he trash
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We always put people who live toxic ass lifestyles or promote it higher than people who reflect on themselves in their music. Not a big logic fan too fast for me usually but his music is nothing to hate. I think its just that people see it as "oh you know better than me!!?? youre corny then"
His old Young Sinatra shit go hard . I wish he stayed that logic
He did not kill his rap career he killed his industry career and that is a good thing my man is still making bangers and living his best life.
What "bangers" are you talking about
@@specterMVI mean they aight but yeah not banger
I went to his show a couple weeks ago and he killed it, the flow, lyrics, freestyle, the love compassion and humility he shared with his fans 👌 this is video is a small example of what gate keeping is
I went to his show too. Tbh I know it’s on stage and in front of people but he seems very humble and out going and truly caring. But his music is absolutely amazing. He got me through some rough times a lot of times and I really fw it. I love his music. I hate how he got so much backlash for stuff. He’s himself. He’s different from all these other rappers singing about drugs money and fame and sleeping around. He’s a rapper that actually has stories within his music and it’s what makes it so good to listen to.
@@kylewilson1011 you’re 💯 percent right. His music actually has meaningful substance to it. I wish people could see what true music really is instead of chasing the trends of their peers and bashing those who are to bash. This dude is one of kind
Man can rap, and he’s damn good at it.
Said no one EVER
@@Tramplyfe ratio
@@Tramplyfe If you listened to only his bad albums than you probably think that💀
@@jueezzzzthe original logic from UK is far more better don't understand how he is so underrated every time I try to look for his tracks I can't find them because this man shows up just proves attention outweighs skill these days
@@jueezzzz logic uses the same cadence and same bars over the same type of beats. If I hear logic say “finger fuck em” on more than one track, he’s been wack
Idgaf what anyone says. I'm happy for the man finally having a family, being independent and making the rap and indie rock shit he wants to make. The numbers don't mean anything.
Right plus dude came from nothing LITERALLY and now rich asf can’t do nun but respect it 💯
Exactly .. let him do what he wants to do and feels
Exactly. His talent put him in a mansion.
I know you're capping
He defended and shielded a pedophile, Silas one of the artist he signed was grooming logics underaged fans and asking 16 year olds for nudes by scrolling through logics instagram comments. Logic protected a pedo.
Logic is blessed. He’s for the “people”, his fans are loyal. I enjoy listening to his lyric because they are meaningful. Some people need to open up their world.
It's so interesting that this video is about his fall but most comments are positive towards him. It means that people are not dumb.
I feel really bad for logic for the backlash he gets, he’s made amazing music, he just overworked himself to no extent, hopefully he’s enjoying his time with his family 🖤
Not saying some of it isn’t deserved, just feel bad for the backlash he gets, and that’s coming from someone who doesn’t listen to him often
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correct. he MADE good music, until he became an arrogant douche. listen to the Under Pressure album, and then listen to his new work. its night and day difference.
Everyone gets tested from God and the meaning is how will u stand up to evil....
Corny
Logic got me through a divorce and custody battle simply by listening to his Under Pressure album. He'll always have a fan in me. Thank you Logic 🙏
@La Capone this is a dumb comment by a (probably) unintelligent person. Obviously he helped himself, there can be multiple factors in the final outcome of a situation.
@@josephmother2659 exactly, logic’s music probably kept him in focus instead of jus being in his thoughts.
@La Capone You sound like a true weirdo. Hope your friends never come to you for support. You'll tell them to do it themselves.
Under pressure is still one of my favorite albums. He's such a good lyrical rapper. Better than most rappers these days, but he did fall off the map for me after these current mumble rappers chased me back to listening to 90s and 2ks. That shits the best and will always be
I would divorce you too if you were routinely listening to a logic album LOL
WoW UA-cam is officially worse than TV. Two 15 second, sometimes longer uninterrupted ads followed by a sponsor ad read mid video, followed by another ad at the end of the video all in under 20 minutes.
Logic did it right. He burst onto the scene, released some absolute bangers for years, as well as some "pop songs" to make it big, then when it started to slow down he retired a rich, but not jaded, man.
Props.
Lmao til 4 days ago. New album is great
Isn't it sad how one of the last genuinely positive hip hop artists that's for the culture has to deal with videos like this? Bro, how about a video on how successful he's been?
Exactly! 💯🎯
@Lordeverfall100 He still set at his age, he knows what is in his account.
Yea his new album is incredible yet it’s being used to shit on him like wtf!?!?
you know KRS-1 still out here right?
@Lordeverfall100 and you broke oh well
Besides the misleading title, This was a well put together video. I feel like people magnify logic’s flaws, but don’t actually listen to his music, which is incredible!
it’s a shame bc he’s actually better than most rappers
Skoowitit.
The title isn't misleading. Logic is a great rapper who could have had an incredible career but ended up having simply a good career.
True bro
Hi samad (it’s Rudy btw)
He definitely proved himself in his latest album, I still have his newest albums songs in my rotation, definitely redeemed himself and no longer cares what the critics think
his “welcome to forever” mixtape is one of the best hip hop projects i’ve ever heard. i wish people gave it more credit
Man, he doesn’t deserve all the hate.
I think logic tries way to hard. He has skills but he just trys to rap fast all the time for no reason
he's racist.
@@lukesawardbeats9629hahaha😂
@@lukesawardbeats9629 Mofo how is he racist?
@Bonner says the n word but looks like the whitest "biracial" guy ever.
I find it lame how someone you look up to so much growing up turns out to be so hated. I love logic and what he's done. His progress through the music industry and downfalls are all part of the game no one gets a perfect road but the outcome has been great. He is mentally healthier than ever. Most importantly he's a happy husband and father who's just living life now.
That’s the thing Bandwagon hate doesn’t last forever remember when Justin Bieber first got started he had bandwagon haters but as everyone aged and got older and more mature so did culture as well
they stopped hating on him , it wasn’t that the hate was empty and pointless it had a point and reason , like it or not logic is very off putting in many circles
He’s not pass the aux music
He’s corny listen to it by your self music
He not jam at the club music
He’s not deep think music
( I mean this on a out of his fan base point of view)
So with all that against him why should ppl not dislike his music when every other bar is a bar about how good the bars are….
@@stonegardenllc9346 funny how wrong you are on some of these points but to each their own brotha
Justin Bieber has ACTUAL talent!
@@ervinsmisu1066 funny how you put in the effort to write this cringey condescending reply yet didn’t actually point out a single thing
It's just other rappers that aren't as successful as Logic that are hatin'. Their fans of those rappers end up having to follow suit.
Honestly I think he is right where he wants to be now. He is surrounded by family and day one fans and doesn’t have to be in the spotlight
What a positive guy. He did it right, made his $$ doing what he loves and stepped back to raise a family. 👏❤
Logic on the Impulsive podcast mentioned he wrote his 1-800 verse for The Chainsmokers but they didn’t think it fit so he made it into his own song
Bruh when people make videos like this, do you really think they're concerned with giving the whole picture of matching the facts for whatever title they come up with? Lol
Joyner is just salty he didn’t blow mainstream wise like logic
@@gooddickman1561 Also he thinks he's better than what he really is. Not a fan... At all
@@gooddickman1561 thank god, Joyner is the biggest fucking cornball in the rap game
Logic is very talented. Was listening to some of his tracks again on Apple Music to and from work, and to say he is horrible is ridiculous. This kid has bars. I like his flow. He is a legitimately talented and good rapper, with some really good tracks. The hip hop industry just values being hood, from the streets, fucking bitches, getting money, etc too much.
facts
They value blackness too much aswell, like Em
Joe Budden is garbage idk why he said shit
Dre said, its all about image and acting.
truth man
they slept on logic….just appreciate his music. Some people are good even great. But being accepted that is the real challenge.
not really. I mean if you make your own songs you won't be hated it's that simple. the reason why eminem is goated is because he really can rap battle and spit lines out of nowhere. It seems logic is a fake ass dipshit.
this honestly hasn’t aged all too well, he’s on an insane run No Pressure, Vinyl Days, College Park. he’s really redeemed himself and he’s moving into a new phase of his life and doing well
Has he lol? I have not heard or seen Logic since quarantine (the only song the general public knows of his)💀 Joe was right.. nobody really cares hence the video explaining what happened lmao.
@@ditzydora69 😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
@@BonnerDoesUA-cam based off your recent comments on other Logic “content”, you are just a stan lol. Probably white tbh. Logic is a generic suburb rapper. Stan culture is diminishing the art form.
EDIT: I went back checked & you literally a CHILD (under 18; way younger than that tbh). YOU CANT EVEN VOTE 😂. This takes a little bit more adult knowledge & “Logic” before typing tween.
@@ditzydora69check out Gaithersburg Freestyle shit was crazy in person. I think him taking a short “retirement” just lowered the scale of his popularity and only his fans bump him (honestly probably what he wanted)
Bruh just dropped bars in his free mixtape too 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I know the video is about logic, but man sum about joe budden having opinions on other artists when he himself was a wack ass artist really gets under my skin. Dude gives opinions on music as if he was a top charting influential figure in hip hop when in reality nobody even knew who he was until his show on complex with akademics and further with the joe budden podcast. Like dude really needs to sit down somewhere and be humble
jajaja yes fr
💯
He’s just a a salty old bum with a failed rap career
Facts
This is a good take
as someone who's been listening to logic for around a year and a bit, his biggest problem is that he's inconsistent. i never understood the pure hatred some people have for him because the dude's got some great albums; under pressure, the incredible true story, no pressure and more recently, vinyl days. he does definitely have some misses for sure like everybody which was just ok and confessions of a dangerous mind which was underwhelming but i think he's still one of the better artists we have
it’s a shame he gets a lot of hate bc he’s actually better than 90% of rapper out there
@@Gameplays1able yea his rap ability alone is insanely good, it just doesn't appear that way to most people due to inconsistency and because most people still only know him as the 1-800 guy
He’s corny.
I think that’s the general “problem” with him, and it rarely gets yoo far beyond that.
He can spit
He picks some good- though rarely memorable- beats
He’s just kind of corny
I see it more as he just seems to get cornier, he’s more technical than Joey badass but doesn’t get the respect because he leans really hard into being a nerd while then complains about not being seen as cool. In Hip Hop image is everything.
The truth is a lot of us don't see him as great as you see him.
His albums are okay not great and he's the biggest rapper that is known for complaining 🤷🏾♂️.
We notice when he's not being authentic, we notice when he's being over the top trying to give a message, we notice when he's following trends.
There's a lot of evidence to show why people consider him Corny.
His come up story is the only thing he had for him that brought him the success and majority respect early on.
He has been very consistently annoying and that's the problem.
He needs to do something new and appealing. And he needs to improve his pen, he is not a great rapper, he is decent and is nowhere near the goat status he keeps trying to say he is in his songs.
idgaf what others say, Under Pressure is a Classic and nothing that Logic did or didn't will decrease what he done.
No pressure, the incredible true story, and under pressure are 3 of my favourite albums. They're really good. I also love his 3 young sinatra mixtapes, they're all classic pieces.
Logic's newest album definitely was a good return and a good record it's sad to see it do so poorly commercially. Due to the fact that hip-hop is all about street rap and most of anything on that wave is what is surfing right now, it's hard to try and promote a boom bap style. In the future though, if Logic plays his cards right, he can gain a bit more respect if he can appeal more to the OG's while also being true to his style and not doing whatever is mainstream.
Kendrick sold good. J Cole sold good. Kanye sold good. Logic didn’t sell low because street rap exists and is taking over. When ASAP drop, he’ll sell too.
Yeah but while the album didn't do well commercially, there were a good amount of non fans who enjoyed it
@@Christian-eq6pq why do you think he struggled to sell?
@@Phosphor_Sco People have just moved on from Logic and his public perception mixed with his recent albums (No Pressure excluded) have been bad. He still has a fanbase, he tours and they bought Vinyl Days but the average consumer who isn’t a diehard Logic fan has no incentive. NP sold well because people thought he was retiring so those who were former Logic fans tuned in for nostalgic purposes and a send off out of curiosity. Chance The Rapper is going through the same thing. If he were to announce his next album as his last, he’s doing 200-300K. Retirement and posthumously albums are anomalies.
@@Christian-eq6pq well said christian
Really I find it weird how Joe simultaneously acknowledges logic success, but doesn’t think that that can be attributed to any sort of talent. What I think a lot of people still fail to realize is, maybe you just don’t like the artist? Because if they’re successful, it can’t mean that they have no talent at all.
Milli Vanilli
Just cause McDonalds sells the most burguers it doesn't mean it has the burgers of highest quality. Look it up, it's called the fallacy of popularity.
I fw logic but your telling me lil pump and soljia boy are talented rappers? Hell no. In logics case I think you’re right but that shoe isn’t gonna fit every situation
@@princewavy237 ey don't diss big Drako 😂
@@princewavy237 they’re not as talented as logic, proof is in the numbers. Eskettit and Crank Dat aren’t garbage.
I have to respect Joe Budden for being ballsy enough to crap all over other artists while never making a single good song in his entire life
hes only ever brought up cause of Logic now
Budden is the biggest hater with no accountability
LITERALLY
Coming back to this video is crazy cause he’s revitalized his career now that he’s dropping projects an an independent artists. He’s finally making the art that makes him and he enjoys creating.
I like him personally. Dude has more money than what the people who criticize him do.I wouldn't gaf what anyone thinks if I were him
Yeah no doubt his discography will go down in the history of hip-hop, like look how long he's been in the game now, still going, and still with projects like Vinyl Days III already hinted at, just think how crazy it is that we're living right now listening to our fav rappers and generations to come will revisit this stuff aswell
I go back and discover albums and artists all the time, like for example, been listening to Digable Planets and The Pharcyde. Logic will be another role model for hip-hop as he already has been.
@@deleteduser987logics sick and I like listening to his music and his rhyme schemes
Don’t care what anyone says the second verse on soul food is still to this day one of the hardest modern rap verses I’ve ever heard
facts
With that said, TITS is easily a top 20 hip hop album of all time. I said what I said.
They said dude can’t rap. 🤦🏻♂️😆 if this ain’t rappin…. Bro… on the spot, murdered it. ua-cam.com/video/nkFHBaXl9pc/v-deo.html
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IK DUDE ITS SO GOOD
He'll be fine. Dude is a warrior and his creativity will always shine through.
Warrior 🤓
Yes..he could easily fold like budden if he wanted to and start a podcast
His fans will always be there for him. He stopped acknowledging the hate. The positivity speaks louder. Always will. Negativity is just loud bc it's the easiest thing to do. It's easy to hate. It's hard to push against the grain.
I mean No Pressure, Vinyl Days, College Park, now Inglorious Basterd he's kinda on a roll now
He’s honestly underrated lyrically. His outside drama is his business. His music is nice though. Definitely on my work playlist and chilling playlist
Bro he literally said he was biracial in his penis. Like what? He also said I ain’t playing games unless we talking Fortnite. He saids a lot of corny rhymes. No doubt his early works the best, but he tends to decline with time.
Facts, like his music is insanely good to me, he's so underappreciated and I hate. I mean he's My favorite rapper but even if he wasn't he's literally done nothing to deserve the hate, it's sad fr
If you break down his bars, they aren’t that good and some bars are just atrocious. You just think hes a good lyricist because he can rap fast. Logic says the phrase “finger fuck em” in like 10 songs, “who’s only biracial in his penis”, “white white white white white” (yes these are all real) “how many drips to lick your lemondrop” (corny ass line)
He sounds like the ultimate form of a dude who grew up rapping in a mega church. Dude is corny and has terrible style. Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
He has the same flow and even copies his own lines over and over again there’s no way you can say he’s “underrated” 🤣🤣 he’s straight up butt cheeks
Logics biggest issue was inconsistency and dropping way too much from 2017-2019, but anyone who’s listened to his projects know how much raw talent he has, it’s a shame he cared so much about what other people think. But vinyl days is a contender for AOTY and he’s a great rapper
this didn’t age well
…
Im a bit out of it on logics career but how did this age bad,
@@erikbritz8095 he never fell off & is still making music lmao
One of my favorite artists just due to his drive to stay true to himself. A true underdog
@@GoalPostNetworksome are bandwagons and the ones that left, left. The ones that stayed are the true fans
Logic's recent album is the best album he has ever released. I think the issue here is that Logic is honestly too positive for Hip-Hop, Logic is the nice guy that would hold the door open for the girl he likes while all the other guys including the guy the girl likes find that corny af.
I personally respect Logic as an artist because he actually talented than most and brings a much needed positive vibe to Hip-Hop. 💯
Corny
@@odysseus8403 Corny
This! 💯
Hold the door open for everybody, not just as a pathetic attempt to get laid
He needs to find a way to be positive but not come off as corny….. but for sure a factor is that he’s “TOO” positive
I can't ever be mad at the man that made 44 Bars...this song is amazing and one of the best rap songs and beats of all time...and no matter how much they try to tear Logic down...this will always remain true
this video aged so poorly
Fr😂
Def Jam controlled and tried to milk Logic in the music industry. That's the reason why he left and went on to do more amazing things.
Logic is my favourite rapper, and I will say that it is just a fact that his worst shit is still better than a lot of current rappers that don't get criticism for stealing/copying other people's stuff. Logic was heavily inspired by so many people, and while overused, I see no issue when he pays homage to other rappers and it wholesome and genuine about it. Rappers these days come up offering nothing of value and are loved and praised, but Logic who's nicer and makes better, more impactful music, isn't held to the same standards. He was heavily inspired by Kendrick and J. Cole, but not once listening to their stuff to I think "Ah yes, Logic took this" I just don't hear it. He references a lot of stuff. The Thalia thing definitely was an idea he was inspired by from Tribe. The Joyner thing is hilarious, because he even admitted that he was just envious of the dude and wanted to pick a fight, then got upset because Logic didn't respond by saying his name. He's been accused by so many of cheating on his first wife without there being any proof at all besides "timing". COADM was a social experiment, and always was one, he said it before it released, but of course only the fans who dig deep will know this, but so many people spread BS. But you really can tell the people who are fans from the people who don't take 5 minutes to look in to him and his shit, his whole Incredible True Story idea is super creative and unique, and a better fictional story than any other rapper has made, and his real life story of him growing up is told pretty well, not on the level of Kendrick through deep meaningful music, but Logic told it through good songs you can vibe through. People saying he's anything other than a genuine, good dude, who is inspired by his peers, loves hip-hop and his fans are just mad for the sake of being mad.
The dude has his issues, there's gripes in there, but people always look for the wrong shit, or shit that seems like it's an issue but actually does have it's reasons. I'd be mad too if I thought the dude did bad shit, but he really doesn't.
Beautifully said👑
that's an excuse for COADM, but everything else you said was completely valid
@Julio Ranji how insightful julio
@Julio Ranji ong idk who else listening to logic
TL;DR kodak better
Logic may be inconsistent with his music, but the hip-hop fan base is too. Flocking over to whatever like ducks and a bit of bread, no matter if its dry or soggy.
Facts
💯💯💯 whatever’s trending on TikTok is basically what gets the attention
Thank youuuu for saying this !!!
The clarity and flow of the narration grabbed my attention more than the content even. Well done.
Tbh, Logic just drops music when he feels like it. Not to mention he's one of the only rappers in the game who's really trying to spread a positive, heart-felt message, but most people in this genre think that shit's too damn mushy. For my money, while his career may have tapered off a little bit, Logic will forever be the G.O.A.T.
"Only" maybe you should branch out more. He's definitely not the only one to spread a positive message.
@@haileenowacki5202 notice how I said one of the only, not THE only. Maybe you should read more 🤔
@@kool-aidman6955 what other rappers spread a positive message then?
While Logic does have some issues when it comes to his music, like referencing the Biracial memes too much or his album concepts not being fully utilised in the albums himself, you could always root for him since he comes of as a huge fan of hip hop.
sad cause that Under pressure album was incredible. And i’m definitely not a fan of that double time flow stuff but he’d have lines in those
So he has no right to speak on his experience as someone who’s biracial?
@@M00PSY what no he does 💀 he just does it a lot and some would say in corny ways
It’s sad because he talks about being biracial just as much as Eminem talks about being white. Or Kendrick talks about being black. He’s the same. People look at him different. It makes no sense
@@icon4311 bro is always mentioning he’s biracial what 😭
The retirement really slowed him down. But damn this opened my eyes to how fickle people can be in hip-hop and rap game can be. The fact that it's the rappers themselves talking shit, really sucks. I'm used to shit fans in the metal scene, metal elitists for the most part. But the artists in metal don't mind other bands 'ripping' on them. Everyone has something to bring to the table.
The popularity is what killed logic. He has said it many times when he was writing songs he felt people couldn’t relate. It’s even in no pressure. What made logic amazing was the zero commercial appeal. I think him “retiring” wasn’t him retiring from rap. But I think as of “rap industry in the media” and showing he can still rap to the top of his game. Now that he has gone back to being an independent rapper. We have had phenomenal tracks ever since. BT3 was unfortunately a contract during DEF jams run and he has said that Bobby Tarantino three is a big joke multiple times and he just came out with something to satisfy the contract.
The sad part is if he didn’t worry so much about outside opinion and had just kept moving forward then he no one would’ve batted an eye. This seems so repetitive you’d think that should be simple by now.
The irony in the name of logic. You’d think he would’ve thought about these possible outcomes.
These videos are so good it really shines a light on just how petty and childish this genre of music is. Shit talking, name dropping, murders, anything to get a one up on someone
Really is the worst culture, spent a couple weekends with metal heads/bands and it was just good conversation about the genre
It's really sad to see the mainstream shit on logic so heavily. He's a good dude that makes (mostly) good music. His horrible run from 2017-2019 tarnished all his cred as a rapper and he became the face of the corny rapper hate movement. If homie doesn't release Everybody and Confessions, I think he would still be a widely respected rapper today.
They got a ceiling on all white rappers besides eminem. That's why Jack Harlow is having a rough stretch. They not gonna let another white rapper hit their peak potential until Em dies.
*supermarket and Confessions
I love that, that puts it into perspective, it's only been a few years in real time. It's just that logic has so much material he wants to drop it was just more prevalent
You can’t call 2017-2019 “his horrible run” it was they were the 3 biggest years of his life. Everybody debuted at #1 BT2 debuted at #1 and COADM debuted at #. He even went on to release what some people call his best project “No Pressure” the year after.
@@sleepykaito4348 yes, commercially 2017-2019 was logics best commercial run, he was the most popular he was ever at that point and made the most money off of work he has put out in that era. However, what he is referring to is the lackluster reception from the fanbase that logic has created since 2010, of pretty much all of those releases. BT2 is the only project I could stomach besides no pressure but I don’t count no pressure as part of this run. If logic did it drop COADM especially, and probably everybody as well, the hate would never have gotten to this point
College Park came out today. Show some respect he has nothing to prove that album is amazing
I use to love rap, I really can't stand most of it now. But I still listen Logic and love all his music because he's that good.
The 90's. These fools dont even know.
You lying to yourself 😂
@@Hornychineseboy To each their own pal
Just to address the Freddy Gibbs “white boy” quote. Why is logic constantly having to defend being biracial, yet J.Cole and Drake are never called out. It isn’t his fault he looks white, it’s the card his genetics dealt him.
Ignorant blacks people hating.
J cole and drake are accepted more and they cooler more than logic is drake used to get called out about his race before he was famous and cole went through shit also I think with family behind close doors
Because he constantly has to remind everyone he thinks he is black and cooked crack 🤷 that is annoying and pitiful looking at someone so insecure with themselves begging for acceptance
Colorism, and public perception of who gets to keep their black card, as long as they're cool.
He didn't have to defend anything. He's white passing. Just be white passing and leave it at that. The need to prove he's black was corny. Just be biracial and move on with it.
the main issue with logic is that he falls into that cringy fast rapper category, and his fans garner the stereotype of nerdy kids who hate rap because it's "meaningless" or "a bad influence" but listen to logic because he's "one of the good ones"
Fax
What you mean I've been listening to logic since under pressure 2014 when I was 15 im 21 now & still listening
@@TRDjuli same bro
hes a lyrical spiritual miracle individual type rapper
You speaking some real! 💯🗣🥇🧘🏾♂️
The fact Joe Budden is even speaking is hilarious! This guy LITERALLY thinks he's better then Eminem 🤣😂
Logic made his best ever music from 2010 to 2016, if you weren’t around back then or never went back and listened, then you’ll never like him or understand the appeal. His younger days in the game were his best but at a certain point interviews became the highlight and downfall of his career. He was too transparent and open about his life in his interviews and then once people like joe budden and charlamane got ahold of his name on podcasts, the criticism must’ve got to his head because the music took a downfall as well. Coming from a proud logic fan.
bobby tarantino 2 was amazing
JUST THE FACT THAT THIS VIDEO GOT 400k plus videos just by using his name and photo. People tend to forget this guy worked 10 plus years straight dropping project after project and never stopped. He literally overworked himself. I will admit he did reuse some of his old bars to the point I even stopped. But his production style and beats is honestly one of a kind. He might have been knocked down but I can promise he won’t stay down. He loves creating music more than anything.
I've heard Jadakiss and Eminem use some of their old stuff. I think if something is fire you just want the world to hear it. If they havent made it yet they might switch it up a little as an improvement. I don't hold it against them
7 months later, we’re up to almost 1 million views using his name so ur point still stands!
1m views and 21k views
This video pretty much paints logic in a negative light
Logic was very popular so it makes sense it’s getting views. Logic’s latest songs are not getting views so there has to be a disconnect with the fanbase towards Logic. Honestly, there are better artist out there who are putting out higher quality than Logic. Either Logic takes a Kendrick Lamar break or continue to see his fanbase dwindle.
I will never understand the Logic hate. His discography is incredible, and dude can spit. IDC
🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝
If he wouldn’t have released everybody, confessions of a dangerous mind and specially supermarket he would probably still be respected by the mainstream media
You sound like logic, saying you don't care when clearly you care 🤷
@@jasondavid1187 you sound like all these sheep filling youtube comments
@@dagger4419 lol how is pointing out fact to you thin skinned corny crybabies sheepish?
always love logic
Great vid🔥
Logic might just be the most inconsistent rapper.
He's actually a great rapper and has some very great highs in his discography (Under Pressure, Welcome to Forever, Undeniable, No Pressure, Vinyl Days) but also some average / very terrible lows (Bobby Tarantino, BT3, Everybody, COADM). His new album is great, though.
Dude just needed to stop releasing an album every year.
Don't forget Supermarket
I mean keep in mind Supermarket was released on behalf on his book. I remember reading it and listen to the album as I read it. If anything, it only pertains to the book. It wasn't the best, yeah, but at the end I realized it was more of a soundtrack for his book. Bobby Tarantino lowkey had some bops in there. Everybody is a CONCEPT album that targets mental health. That was the main goal. If you didn't like it, it probably wasn't meant for you. It was meant for others who were depressed. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just simply stating that that album had a clear goal of helping everyone with their own battles and to say it sucks, kind of takes away from all the positive feedback from broken people. People that actually felt they could relate for once. To be honest, I haven't listened to as much Logic after he "retired". I treated COADM as a turn-up album and I just turned off the "Where's the old Logic" and just treated it as a regular album that the gen. pop listens to. Talking about money and b*tches and stuff. I still go back and listen to the older albums like U.P, or to the amazing intro of TITS and continue to listen to the rest, but I can't say I agree or disagree with either side. I'm just a random mf.
bobby tarantino 1 is a low?
Glad you showed love to those two mixtapes, straight heat. Lot of great tracks on the mixtape he dropped before Undeniable too
he didn’t do it on purpose he kinda just running wit the fact he fell off
I think he's doing fine. One of my favorite things is when an artist reflects their life in their art. Like how eminems discography mirrors what he was going through as a person, and an artist. I think logic has been solidified
I love the positivity in the comments, Logic is a great hip hop artist and a great human being. I've loved him for years and I know he didn't deserve this bullshit from the community.
To me he represents a person like myself. I loved his second album, being fresh by not being "hard" but just true to himself. I'm also a "nerd" and love to hear some of my interests represented in hiphop. Keep on doing you man F the haters just make music for yourself
Man logic released so many bangers the hate is unwarranted. Every artist does things that ruffle feathers but he’s got some legit classics that I’ll probably bop until the day I die. He’s always got a fan in me 🔥😤
i mean, this might be true, then he drops "college park" and proves he's a fucking top talent with top production.
Logic: How to revive a rap career
like legit honestly, I feel like his last couple records have just been a lot better than most his stuff. it's honestly really refreshing.
Joe Budden is really an authority on being a bad rapper. He's one of the worst ever, easily. I don't even like Logic but seeing him saying that to Logic's face is absurd.
Budden is a clown and represents all the worst things about modern American culture in the internet age. He’s a failed rapper that now sits on his ass criticizing other rappers who are putting themselves out into the world through their music. What does he contribute to the culture these days other than negativity
Joe Budden is so bad most people don’t even know that he was a rapper…
Sorry but Budden is anything but a bad rapper.... if you were familiar with his catalogue beyond his more commercial songs then you most def wouldn't say this.
It's messed up how he targeted Logic like that though, when there's a plethora of commercially successful rappers out these days who can't hold a candle to Logic when it comes to bars.
You seem like a logic stan in his feels. Budden is a great rapper, much better than logic
Logic isn't the better rapper but definitely the better MC.
He's come a long way from his destructive childhood, carved out his own lane in rap and was just himself, no wack persona. Leave it up to the current society to constantly tear a man down just for pursuing his dream and celebrate other artists with completely toxic lifestyles. People have been calling him corny for a minute, what's embarrassing is years later being hung up on one artist who made a few songs you just weren't giving with. Oh wait Logic has a new album, I guess I haven't slandered him enough better send out some more hate, hurt people hurt people
Facts
College park just shat on this video
Idk man I’m not the biggest logic fan but I thought he came back hard with vinyl days & the crazy thing is this video was posted after it. Vinyl days had some pretty decent verses. I go back to it more than other recent albums.
I feel like Logic released so much music is a short amount of time is also one of the problems. He had a run where he did 2 projects every year, that's an easy formula of people getting tired of your music and start the trolling.
yeah def, he should release once every two or three years
At least he had a "career" unlike Buddens. Talking trash like a H.S. girl from his mom's basement and his two lovers..lol
Budden is 100% a hater
@@__rm307 Budden is the reason a lot of y’all trying to do podcasts too
@@brodyoutlaw55 a lot of “y’all”??? Lol not here, maybe you
He hasn't killed his rap career though, he's arguably on his best arc ever rn
When he toured to Miami and the tickets were undersold I was upset! We’ll support more trash rappers than actual pure lyrical content and creators. Shows where we are today and the future
Logic is EASILY a top 10 hip-hop artist of his generation. He’s just a genuine guy who had the gift and the hard work to become a commercially successful rapper, all while staying true to himself. I love his relatability, and the fact his personality truly shines through his music. I feel like you truly get to know HIM, the guy behind the brand, allowing his fanbase to make a true connection with the art and the artist. I do see the inconsistency, as the tail-end of his projects with def-jam, excluding No Pressure, were sub-par. Being a fan of the guy for nearly a decade has me excited to see where he takes his career next, though I doubt he’ll ever be mainstream again. But being independent for College Park has me hopeful that we can expect a sound similar to that of his mixtapes, just more refined. Sorry for the long ass ramble, but damn man it just sucks to see how negative the general perception of Logic is.
Joe Budden just mad cause he could never sell 200k first week, even at his prime
the title just had me laughing mane they gettin on em off top😂
Can we get a video on how Logic rose after no pressure and college park
I really like Logic. Definitely a good rapper
5AM is one of my favorite rap songs of all time. I have lots of respect for Logic. He’s made a lot of great music back when I was in high school and even after college. Hope he’s happier now with his wife and baby!
I seen a lotta shit I shouldn’t hAve
He hates that album..and thinks people who like his old music are waxk
@@Rational_upper_cut yeah that doesn’t annoy me ngl
@@phettywappharmaceuticalsll8842 same! Idk why logics become depressed but won’t kill my vibe with listening to his old music
same bro
I saw him & wiz. Didn’t really want to see him. Saw his show. Was front of the crowd. That kicked. Not lying
People hate logic because it somehow became a fad, same thing happened to Wale around the time when he released “The Gifted” in 2013. People kill me with that.
Right
Bro should’ve started droppin more shit like Bobby Tarantino 1 & 2 and adapted with the new sound of the industry. Bro was doing songs with durk not that long ago he could’ve been poppin but sold out instead
Coming from someone that’s been listening since he dropped the spotlight video when I used to be a huge faze fan
Nah BT aren't his best projects tho. Imma say they're good but his best was TITS tbh or Under Pressure. They re pure art. Or all of the YS mixtapes. This is the true Logic. With the fast unstoppable flow
Incredible rapper that took the internet way too much to heart, should've chilled and rolled with the punches like most.
Reminds me of when 50 Cent announced he would hang up his mic forever if his Curtis album was outsold by Kanye West's Graduation. Kanye's sales blew his away and now we all just pretend that 50 never said it.
Logic has an incredibly strong mind to have manifested the negative reaction he got from the world. I don’t think it’s possible to fathom how much he was terrified of not being liked.
This is False Logic never sabotaged his own career he just released a few bad albums but still managed to release classics and is arguably better than most rappers today.
Men’s hasn’t released any classic since everybody what are you talking about
@@omniken2494 closer to “Cult Classics”…no type of GKMC but he will be remembered
@@omniken2494 Everybody a classic? What? God no
Wait, what classic are you speaking of? 🤔
@@ItsYaBoi888 under pressure, no pressure ,vynl days
Gonna go Listern to some Logic
Real
The only way words hurt is if ur actually doing what they said … if he wasn’t he would brush that off
This video be like:
“Logic attacked by many for being himself I. Hip hop, and that’s his fault” 🤨
Basically