Simon Phillips presents his drum kit
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Simon Phillips presents his drum kit exclusively for en.beatit.tv/ - the drummers' website.
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"This is a Tama Star maple shell drum kit. Obviously, custom built. I think most of the Star drums are apart from some, maybe, regular size drums. Let’s start with all the drum sizes.
The bass drums are 24” by 15”. One inch shorter than what would normally be a 24” x 16” bass drum. Personally, if I could have 14” depth bass drums, like the old-fashioned sizes, I would. I think they sound better because the front head responds quicker when there’s not too much depth in the bass drum. But there’s a problem and that’s the tom tom holder. If I don’t put that mount way to the front of the bass drum, I end up with the toms in my lap and I can’t play. That’s mainly because, by today’s standards, I use large size tom toms. By yesterday’s standards, they’re normal. It’s just the way fashion has gone and hence why tom tom holders are put closer to you so the small drums are close enough to be playable. But this is a problem for me so I have to have at least a 15” depth bass drum purely so the kit sets up properly. That’s nothing to do with sound. I think the fashion is to have deep bass drums these days. It actually works the other way. It ends up sounding thinner and smaller because that front head doesn’t react so quickly. It doesn’t matter if you don’t use the front head and it would actually be more beneficial but I use a front head so I need that head to respond very quickly to get all the bottom end. So those are the bass drums.
Tom tom sizes. This little one… I always forget. This may sound silly. I know it’s a 10-inch but some of my drums are 6.5” and some of them are 7”. Don’t ask me why.
That’s a 12” x 9”, 13” x 10”, 14” x 11”, 15” x 12”, 16” x 13”. I think that’s it. 18” x 14”. That’s it ’cause it’s one inch deeper than the old-fashioned standard, which is 12” x 8”, 13” x 9”. Although that was always a 15” x 12” for some reason. So those are the toms. Six are mounted. They have a lot of play in them, which helps the tone. The floor tom is regular but the legs they’ve designed make it wobble around, which makes it work a bit better.
This is a gong drum. It’s a 20” x 14” shell. It has a rim on one side only ’cause it’s only got one head and I use a timpani head. It goes boom and that’s what we like. It lasts forever.
Snare drums. This is exactly the same shell as these, which is a maple ply, not solid maple. This is a 14” x 6.5”, eight-lug. This is a 10” x 5.5”. This is a 12” x 5.5”, I think. That might be a 10” x 5”. I’m not actually sure ’cause there’s other drums which are different.
All the heads are Remo Ambassador. As you can see, clear on the toms - top and bottom. Clear on the bass drums - front and back. Clear on the top of the octobans and the snare drums are Ambassador Coated. They work really well with brushes. As I said before, there’s a timpani head on the gong drum. I think that’s all for the drums themselves.
Cymbals. Every set of my cymbals is slightly different only because of circumstance. The cymbals I like to use are the Zildjian Armand series, which, you’ll see here, is written on them. Actually, this may say „Avedis” but it’s actually an Armand. That splash is an Armand. This is an Avedis. I think that is also an Avedis and this is an Armand. You may wonder why the Armand say ’Avedis’. The real Avedis Zildjians have a bigger ’A’ on them. The reason is because the Armand series was discontinued. Much to my dismay. What they do for me, as a special customer, they make me Armands when they can but they have to stamp them… There’s two ways they stamp them. One is… We don’t have it here. Interesting. It’s called Sound something Prototype. I never remember what they’re called [Zildjian Sound Lab Prototype]. Or they’ll just put an Avedis Zildjian stamp on them because it would be very confusing for people if they see Armand and they can’t buy them. That’s the only reason.
This is a very special cymbal. It was made in 1979. During my first visit to the Zildjian factory, I found two of these. They’re called Swish Knockers, ’cause they’re 24” sized. They’ve tried to make them like that in recent years and they’re nowhere near the same. The other kinda special cymbal is this one. This is a remake of a cymbal they used to call the Oriental Trash. Now, they’ve discontinued those, too. I happen to have a couple of the original ones, which actually look a little different. They have a different color to them for some reason. They made these specially for me only last year, I think. They’re absolutely beautiful.
Something I like to do. This is a Trashformer. It’s pretty interesting. Sounds like a miniature gong. It makes a real dustbin type sound, which I think is actually very cool for certain things. That’s what I’ve been doing recently."
@ZildjianCompany @TAMAofficial @PromarkDrumsticks
“These are the Octobans......made of Octoban material” I love this guy, my favorite drummer!
A phenomenal drummer and a real classy guy! Toto is not the same without him.
Totally agree 👍
I better not make a comment....I got attacked by people saying that Gregg Bisonette was at the same skill level. Sometimes better I keep my opinion to myself as someone who has played drums for 40 years and spent thousands of hours listening to drummers and reading books and articles. All I said was Phillips made Bisonette look like a toilet. My opinion but last time I checked I wasn't living in a communist country and I could express an opinion.
@@regaltip8A So are you saying those people shouldn't be allowed to attack you? Like you said, it's not a communist country and people can express their opinions. So are you suggesting they shouldn't be allowed to express their's?
There's always something to learn from Simon. Genius.
@Neil did i mentioned his playing?
Neil you are of course entitled to your opinion but clearly haven't heard or seen enough of Simon's open handed drumming over the last 40 plus years,I love Billy but Simon took what Billy did and cleaned it up/expanded the concepts until they were Simon's own. The mans independence/control is awesome ! It's fair to say he is one of the most original/creative/influential drummers thus far,at 63 if the man wants to repeat a few ideas then what's wrong with that ? As musicians we all do that,presented with as much material to drum on as he obviously does it's bound to happen.
@Neil what are you talking about? Did you watched the video? he doesn't play anything, he explains his kit and tuning!
Neil ok I'm not even going to honour you with a detailed reply. Like I said you have no idea of Simon's playing history,at 12 years old he was playing Dixie and B bop ! His work with Hiromi isn't rock! In fact 99% of the time he doesn't use a metronome ..... You're clearly a hater just trying to stir people up ! At the very least you should learn how to type properly, the odd capital wouldn't go a miss !
@Neil well, you'r talking about his playing, so why complain about me talking about the video's contents which it's not about his playing actually?
I love that he's not too geeky, he just talks drums without being too technical.
Saw one of his drum clinics in Glasgow a few years ago & was lucky enough to have a chat with him & Ted McKenna together..,.,.. great night
RIP Ted McKenna. He's brilliant on Rory Gallagher's 'Stage Struck' album.
I love to hear him talk about his drums. He has one of the best sounding kits I've ever heard!
Indeed. He's not only an excellent drummer, but he puts a lot of thought into the sounds produced , which is a large part of the effect you generate on the audience.
Every time I listen to Evans Drum Heads and think of experimenting with those, I stumble across Simon's vids and he has the best sounding Remo tuning anywhere. Every kit he's ever owned and played has sounded incredible.
He uses an open tuning.
I'm sure many professional drummers HATE talking about their kits. It's just not interesting to many of them. But i love that Simon just 'chats' for us drummers who love hearing about their choices. Such an interesting guy!
I always like Simon Phillip's drums set up as well as his playing. Amazing drummer.
Simon is one of my favorite drummers.
The gig rug/platform is fucking genius! Why haven't we ever heard of the importance of this? Simon Phillips ....monster player/cool dude/ scientific genius!! Brilliant but simple matter of fact !
It's the first time I hear about that but it is interesting... Simon his a great guy and very kind...
Learned a couple things there...Simon Phillips! 👍
The kit sitting on a wood platform is genius, never realized how much that can affect the sound.
Pay attention kids. That's a man's drum set right there.
*Spaceship
Always impressed with Simon and his loyalty to. Tama and Zildjian throughout his career
As he has been endorsed from the very beginning, it's not that big of a feat...
Neither to have a 100000 piece drum kit when you're getting it for free
Surmoka playing pro from 12 years old,did he have a deal at that age ?
@@philkimber8086 maybe not as a beginner, but throughout his whole career yes
@@Surmoka tama was around 5 years before endorsing Simon and even longer before as Star. He is very loyal. Tama and Zildjian since 1979 and pro-mark and Remo since 1982. He used to have a big Ludwig kit before getting endorsed. He likes a big kit. So yeah
@@RogierRJDonker He's that type of person. Likeable man. No pretentiousness at all.
His live performance w/ Townsend and Gilmore on Give Blood is bloody brilliant
Absolutely. Had that on VHS many years ago. Incredible musicality as a drummer
I agree. Didn't know it was Simon...
Yes that is phenomenal, also the judas priest album sin after sin has Simon on it and its phenomenal
I have a 20"china trash and its a great cymbal
For me, that's where it ALL started! I could feel his energy!!! Even if you took out the audio, you could see the energy!
I’m not a drummer or a musician. This man knows his stuff. His playing is phenomenal! Fascinating to hear him talk about his equipment. Such an expert in his field and craft. Young drummers should gravitate to his wisdom and knowledge.
he said drums are his second best skills. record engineering is the first
I have never nor will ever play a drum kit this large, but this is Simon's style so more power to him!
Been a drummer for 30 years. I have heard the sound of many drumkits. Experienced Simon Phillips 4 times live. Best sounding kit i've ever heard.
Had the pleasure of meeting Simon at a clinic a few yrs back....a real English gentlemen and one of the world’s finest! Thank you Simon.
This was a great video. I get the impression he still loves drumming and drums as much as he did the day he got his first real drum set.
his comments on sound, mics and eq are a masterclass. Great lesson!
Always loved the sound of Simons drums ever since he played on Mike Oldfields 1983 album Crisis , then the two following albums Discovery and Islands.
And then he'd done another great part of drums while recording another drum part for Mike Oldfield's "Heaven's Open" in 1991 that we could call a masterpiece 😃
His knowledge as a drummer and a gear head and many other aspects are quite frankly are on a another level
Love it,Simon is one of my heroes, and can still set his kit up
Hey, big thank you to whoever recorded the sound for this video, and letting me think my tinnitus was blaring away with the high pitch hum at the end.
Mr. Philips! A classic! Now I know why my 22 x 20 kick drum is like hitting a feather pillow! I always thought it was better to lock my drums down! This wobbling and shaking tip is genius! Time to pull that rag rug off my riser! The boys are going to call me Looney Tunes but I’m going to do it!
The Master and his craft, I had the pleasure to meet him and converse few minutes once, found him at dinner and he was very gracious; the best thing about giants is they do not really know how great they truly are, this man is one of those, knowledgeable, very down to earth and easy going, and when he plays, one can feel it.
He is so great on explaining things. Very clear and concise.
This paticular instrument perspective from Simon was extremely well defined and spoken true to the nature in which his beliefs of musicality are preveyed in all that he does. best yet thank you for this EN Beatit TV and of course SP
The most informative drum rig run-down I've seen. Brilliant.
Thank you on both Simon and BeatIt's behalf!
Zildjian really screwed up discontinuing the Armands. I LOVED them. In my opinion were the best sounding Zildjians since the early 70's. Very sad.
Simon says......I listen
Thank you Simon for this special insight into your drums. Hugely appreciated and I love your new music! Really great. My wife Virginia appreciates you too. Regards
0:59 - I once had a vintage Tama Imperialstar from the 70's, with a centered tom mount on the bass drum; I too had the tom toms sit in my lap! X-))
I'd love one of these kits in case anyone from Tama has an extra one they don't need :)
" Hardware shouldnt be too rigid "
Cameraman : "... ok...😔 "
So nice to hear artists taking the time to explain their setup and philosophy
I’m not a Tama guy but damn that kick makes me want to switch!
I really enjoyed his presentation. It all makes perfect sense.
How can one not love this beautiful man!
First became aware of Simon via the Who 1989 tour and he's been one of my favourite drummers ever since.... that he's so articulate and a nice guy are a bonus
Thank you for sharing this video. Great looking set. Love the Zildjian cymbals
I'm honestly surprised that he doesn't use a rack. God bless his drum tech that sets up all of these stands and drums
it goes BOOOOOM - and that´s what we like!!!!
"This cymbal is a very special cymbal" (default phase used by drummers showing their gear).
But he's 100% right about shorter bass drums. Love the attack they have.
Some years ago you couldnt go into a drum store without seeing all those tunnel shaped bassdrums everywhere.
Wonderful technician. Fascinating man
My band just played the Deer Lodge a couple weeks ago!
One of the best drum videos of ever seen Drummer/scientist
LEGEND of percussionist incitefull too
Very interesting technical info. What a great drummer!
This guy is my new guru. And not just drummingly speaking.
How can he be so calm and a beast at the same time?
Excellent Walk and Talk About !!Cheers!! ;-)!!!!
Phenomenal player.
Saw him with the Who in 1989. Knocked everybody back in their seat. "Amazing Journey" and some of the 60s stuff. His take on that stuff was simply amazing.
Beautiful drum kit❤️
"DUSTBIN TYPE" Sound Excellent The man is a legend
Eric Idle has a cool drum set.
That was excellent.
That’s very interesting about BD depth, shorter is good. I play a 20”dia x 18” Premier and it is fussy.
The 50’s era kits got it right.
TY
The china cymbal that made in 79
Sounds incredible tbh
Tama's rack system is called Power Tower. 11:39
He's wrong about having to have the tom mount further from the batter side. Those mounts would let him position the toms further away due to their ability to swivel around, even if the mount itself was installed closer.
I was thinking a 14" depth kick would probably work using a rack. Then the kicks could come in more without compromising tom location. Just a thought, he did mention he likes the kick mount though. Hmm
nice to see one of the greats agree with me that standard depth basses are better that these stupid deep ones the companies are pushing on us. I get all of mine cut down to 14 or 16" depth
wouldnt a rack system solve the hole tom mount thing?
he'd have to buy one...thats a no no!! ;)
He used to use a rack back in the nineties but ditched it because of resonance issues when the toms were being played ...
Simon's drums are all mounted traditionally (tom holders etc) so that when one drum is hit, all the others resonate and add to the sound. Racks isolate the drums, so this doesn't happen. Plus racks look awful, like painter's scaffolds.
Yes and No, It depends on what response you're after. Racks don't have the wobble Simon mentioned that helps bring out the resonance of the toms
7:40 Sound Lab Prototype. Zildjian Sound Lab Prototype. If I'm not mistaken.
listening to this i keep thinking i'm watching a Spinal Tap segment, which goes to eleven
14:18, flatbase stand. As long as it doesn't fall over its great. But if it falls over its too late.
I completely agree about the 14" bas drum depth. But you could eliminate the tom holder problem with a rack application. There's also a unique mount from INDe drums that mounts as part of the tuning lugs which you could put right at the very front of the bass drum so it would mount the toms immediately over the front lugs. That should buy you at least the extra inch you have to use and go with a 14" drum.
Regarding the floor tom legs having to come out where the place locks can get dislodged, you could put the place locks ABOVE the fitting on the drum instead of below, and push the legs up so the top of the legs are flush with the top head. Then you push rotate the leg until the bottom is tucked up next to the drum and store and transport the drum with all the legs secured on it. Then when you go to set it up, you just bring the leg downward until the lock hits the top of the holder so it will be right back in place....My 2 cents anyway....
Simon doesn't go for a drum rack/power tower application anymore as he prefers the toms to have resonance with each other. I've heard that drum racks completely isolate the toms in its own place and thus not creating enough resonance to travel with each other. I guess his tastes changed, especially since he is after all also an engineer in the studio recordings as well. Also doesn't he use 15" depth instead for the kick to allow the mount to have space he wants for his configuration, I believe that's what Tama listed under his specs.
One of my fave drummers along with Mr Gene Hoglan, Mr Gavin Harrison and Mr Will Calhoun
Strange, and I don't want to offend but IMHO Harrison & Hoglan are way above Phillips' level.. I mean he's good, but not nearly world class like the other two who are my favorites as well.
@@Surmoka My music tastes range from PRIMUS to SLAYER KINGS X to MESHUGGAH PINEAPPLE THIEF to SUICIDAL TENDANCIES GINGER WILDHEART/THE WILDHEARTS to STRAPPING YOUNG LAD/DEVIN TOWNSEND RUSH to PINK FLOYD i admire Mr Phillips playing thats all
My new Starclassic birch/walnut has a 22x14 kick drum. I’d tell you if I liked it, but I haven’t had time to set them up and play them!
He’s a genius!!!!
Simon: These are Octobans
**plays Octobans**
**Tusa from Karol G starts playing**
What a fantastic video, I've been following Simon since his early days with Pete Townshend. I wish he would have explained how he mics this huge kit. I didn't see any individual mics on the rack toms, maybe he just uses the overheads.
The China on his right side is not a "Oriental China Trash" ( They still make those btw ).
It was called a Zildjian "Athentic China". They have the wider edge, like his. And yes, Discontinued....
14:57-16:53 ¡Increíble!
Mmm k- every time the dude giving the interview speaks
I totally agree with the sound of a 14" depth bass drum. I never liked my 22 x 16 Yamaha BD but my Sonor Phonic 22x14 sounds way better.
Because alot keep asking why Simon doesn't go for a rack & not understanding why, allow me to clarify & to stop bloody trolls wasting everyone's time:
Simon doesn't go for a drum rack/power tower application anymore since the 90's as he prefers the toms to have resonance with each other. I've heard that drum racks completely isolate the toms in its own place and thus not creating enough resonance to travel with each other whenever he strikes and thus rings with all the toms for his open approach to sound. This is why he wants that 'wobble' in his toms. His tastes have changed in sound in his experience.
Especially since, keep in mind, he is after all also an engineer in the studio recordings as well so he would want the best sound he wants as possible out of his kit, and open as he likes it. Let Simon decide want he wants, it's not *OURS* to decide what an artist should sound like, that's nothing but forcing down an opinion on their throats and not allowing freewill to decide!
There.
Great!
When your drummer OD's the night before a world tour.......you call Simon Phillips
Just missing the pedals...I see he uses Iron Cobra's but l want to know Rolling or Power glide and Why. Love Simon and this video.
I'd like to know Rolling or Power Glide as well? Hoping someone will comment.
He plays with rolling glide.
THE NASA PERCUSSIVE!!! THE BILLY COBHAN WHITE!!
Ask Simon why are so many drum companies pushing 18" deep bass drums?
Why not go with a rack to hold Toms?
Different look, different feel, different sound.
ua-cam.com/video/b7mrbAwNzZQ/v-deo.html Watch this. Here, he describes why he changed his setup in the 90s, including abandoning the rack
does Zildjian still make the Earth Ride from back in the 80s-90s ? Was a very, very unique cymbal with a smooth bell and very thick body.
Sadly they don't.
I am wondering why he changed the angle of his toms and ride cymbal.
He explained it in a different video.
How low Or high snare drum stand you play drum setups simon phillips?
If you had to set your drums up yourself what would you use
-A real WHAT kind of sound, Simon?! "Duspin....Thuspin....Dus(t) pan..." - ??? Lololol.
dust bin= trash can
Dustbin is what we Brits call a trash can. Two nations divided by a common language etc.
Why not use a rack? Then your Toms can be positioned independent of kick depth.
It's a pity he didn't tap the heads on the bass drums. They are tensioned unbelievably high, and when he hits them they sound like cannons!
The diameter of the drum determins it's tone not depth ,if the drums are too deep both heads won't resonate together and the drums will sound dead
About the fact that Simon could not use the bassdrum size he'd prefer (24x14 vs.24x15) due to the toms' mount on it, personally I don't understand how Tama could not build a specific toms' mount to allow a less deeper bass drum. I guess they would sell it worldwide to recover the investment easily. Or even Simon could build his own prefferred toms' mounts to allow it. Mystery..
Yeah I find that weird too, and I love Tama, don’t get me wrong. The one thing I find strange about them is that they really insist on having tom mounts on their bass drums, even in their really high end kits. I’ve only seen a few Tama kits with tom mounts that aren’t on the bass drum, it’s all very odd.
@@Superball01 For the toms' mount on bass drum I have no problems, it might even be a specific Tama marketing strategy. What I don't understand is the impossibility to customized it for specific needs like Simon's. And, as said, honestly I don't understand why Simon heimself does not customize it, probably for endorsement contract reasons. The point is that he keeps saying it on all interviews!
Ciao
@@robertoferrarini7153 Maybe it is intentional for Tama, but I’m a huge fan of having virgin bass drums for a really high end drum kit, but that’s just me. You’re right, they’re kind of picky about what even their endorsed artists can and can’t have. That’s why I personally think I might switch to Pearl soon, they always give their customers what they want, at least from what I’ve seen.
I see reinforcing rings. On Star Maples? Is that a custom aspect?
Hola buenisimo video!! pregunta para afinar toms y snare utiliza el parche de arriba mas tenso que parche de abajo de abajo?
Love this guy but he sounds like James May from Grand Tour/Top Gear.
@Peter Masalsky - Makes sense, seeing that Simon's into car racing, too! :-))
Why the "but"?
@@attekarppinen5083 Because it was unexpected. I like and respect both individuals, I just found the resemblance funny.
@@petermasalsky8844 Fair enough. Just thought you meant it was a bad thing somehow. I could listen to Simon talk for hours. He'd have a great voice for audiobooks.
9 or 10lb for 1 cymbal ? That's as heavy as my Les Paul !
Ha! - saw SP at a drum clinic must have been 84-85 he was playing a earth ride - I got one soon after still have it never weighed it but must be the heaviest 22” cymbal out there
I'd swear that, aside from that first tom, all the others were the same size.
A trick of the camera lens and perspective!
Because they went up in one inch increments 12 13 14 15 16" not 10 12 14 16
LOL good point. Now that you mention that, I can't unsee it.
12X8 is better. I wonder what He thinks of the hyperdrive depths
I could hear him play and talk by hours