Why 7.62mm is POINTLESS Against Juggernauts?? State of Decay 2 HIDDEN Game Mechanics

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  • @StateofDecayScience
    @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +44

    *No REAL Juggernauts were harmed in the making of this Video!!!*
    Juggernaut Heads are Armored:
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    Juggernauts can Heal their Health Over Time:
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    Also Join My Discord Server if you are interested!!
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    • @awesomeashton
      @awesomeashton 3 роки тому

      Wait this was made secs ago how did you comment 23 mins ago

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому

      When someone uploads a video, it will not be public till they make it public. In that time, you can watch and comment on the video if you have the link for it.

    • @dragimlinplays4202
      @dragimlinplays4202 2 роки тому

      Was the AR15 removed from the juggernaut edition? I haven't been able to find any semi automatic rifles

    • @rykerz105
      @rykerz105 2 роки тому

      @@dragimlinplays4202 I have one from a save from December haven’t found one since

    • @keithp7325
      @keithp7325 11 місяців тому

      No.@@dragimlinplays4202

  • @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
    @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 3 роки тому +47

    meanwhile im still traumatized by a plague juggernaut that took over 500 rounds, mostly .357, a couple pipe bombs, and about 3 melee weapons to take down. this does not take into account the ammo used by the 3 soldier npcs that were shooting him the entire time. i refuse to believe this wasnt a bug

    • @Grilldude
      @Grilldude Рік тому +8

      You could say....
      *He's fucking invincible*

    • @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
      @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 Рік тому +2

      @@Grilldude im going to assume thats a metal gear reference but i have no clue how you reached that

    • @rizkyantoni3948
      @rizkyantoni3948 Рік тому +1

      My only question is how tf did you carry all those with inventory limits

    • @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
      @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 Рік тому

      @@rizkyantoni3948 never said it was all in my inv

    • @wowdozer
      @wowdozer Рік тому

      His power level must have been over 9000. ;)

  • @griffonclaw
    @griffonclaw 3 роки тому +14

    I never gave the Starshank Launcher a second thought. It's a nice alternative to not having a .50 caliber weapon. I'm calling in my Independence Trader now! Thank you RivdD! Great graphs, great video, excellent narration.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +5

      Excellent narration? First time hearing this lol

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +3

      Keep in mind that when using starshank, only shoot their chest. If you shoot their belly, the firework will bounce off from his belly.. Try that, it will be fun.
      Also don't use Gunslinging.

  • @stealthbeastgaming
    @stealthbeastgaming 3 роки тому +26

    These graphs are GREAT, but kind of difficult to access and compare them to each other when I have to bounce around a video for them. I know it's asking for a lot, but perhaps you might consider posting links to the charts in your description in the future.

    • @wazman77show
      @wazman77show 3 роки тому +9

      If you join his discord, he has a channel set up with all of his graphs. His comment to this video has the link.

    • @stealthbeastgaming
      @stealthbeastgaming 3 роки тому +3

      @@wazman77show ooOOOOOOOoooo. Thank you very much!

    • @aATENEA
      @aATENEA Рік тому

      ... or you can just take a damn screenshot

  • @SirPhantom.
    @SirPhantom. 3 роки тому +7

    Thank you for making these videos. They are very informative and helpful

  • @DubG89
    @DubG89 3 роки тому +32

    Rvidd thank you for your videos! You give out so much value. Definitely professional level content. You’re the go to encyclopedia for SOD! Could you do a heavy weapons vs plague hearts guide?

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +2

      I had a plan for Melee weapons Vs Plague Hearts guide. But dropped it few months ago.

    • @bucephalusv.6071
      @bucephalusv.6071 3 роки тому +1

      if you have powerhouse skill, it will be much easier. its fine if you dont have. just dont forget to bring stimulant or lots of energy drink

  • @huffhuff4604
    @huffhuff4604 3 роки тому +5

    Dang, i had to watch this three times to really consume all the data. Keep it up! :)

  • @someoneyouarentcalibrated2217
    @someoneyouarentcalibrated2217 3 роки тому +5

    I can't thank you enough for posting this! I only play on Green Zone & Standard Zone because I don't have a death wish. I've been wondering if there's a difference in the effectiveness of different calibers of guns (besides 50 cal). 🤗

  • @jimmymorris6409
    @jimmymorris6409 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks RviD! Your Videos are very informative .

  • @sergefreeman3729
    @sergefreeman3729 Рік тому

    Very informative charts. I didn't even know smaller calibers can be so efficient against jugs as I was always using 5.56mm or 7.62mm to fight them. Thank you.

  • @DRAEK05
    @DRAEK05 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for making this video, it was extremely informative and exactly the info I needed.

  • @Vylin1
    @Vylin1 3 роки тому +1

    So great! Thanks RviD!!!

  • @parthtrivedi5203
    @parthtrivedi5203 2 роки тому

    Rvid is the only guide you'll ever need for state if decay

  • @kunalnarang1912
    @kunalnarang1912 3 роки тому

    This information is quite handy, dude. Thanks!

  • @Mucurex
    @Mucurex 3 роки тому

    Very nice video. Great job 👍

  • @henriquelrcunha
    @henriquelrcunha 3 роки тому

    Awesome! Your videos are amazing! Such useful information! And you're so dedicated and commited to these videos that we watch it with joy! Amazing man! Congrats!

  • @evangilene2905
    @evangilene2905 3 роки тому +1

    really appreciate the videos. The vehicle ones have helped me a load

  • @cr4yv3n
    @cr4yv3n 5 місяців тому

    In SOD 1 jugs would charge and stagger if they charged into a wall.
    Now they recover insanely fast or stop before hitting the wall. Kinda removes the cheesing ig.

  • @mattc3510
    @mattc3510 2 роки тому

    Nice work bro good video

  • @rorixdragonblade8480
    @rorixdragonblade8480 3 роки тому

    Great info, very thorough. thank you

  • @IdleAndHungry
    @IdleAndHungry 3 роки тому

    This was really helpful!

  • @danielp5226
    @danielp5226 2 роки тому

    thanks for the tips, so helpful

  • @gucky4717
    @gucky4717 3 роки тому

    Also a good weapon is the Sharpshooter Rifle of Daybreak. 1 Mag or 4 Shots (8 CLEO-Ammo) to bring it on its knees. CLEO-Ammo can be crafted or called in with the Relay.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому

      That is "CLEO Heavy Sniper" and not Sharpshooter Rifle. It is an equivalent of 50 Cal. Any weapon other than 50 cal and explosives always need a minimum of 36 shots.

    • @gucky4717
      @gucky4717 3 роки тому

      @@StateofDecayScience Yes i meant the Heavy Sniper, I play with a different Language and mixed up their names.

    • @ArthurCallahanSolos
      @ArthurCallahanSolos 2 роки тому

      That's heavy, but the sharpshooter rifle is ass in daybreak and regular because it can't insta kill a regular zombie or can't bring down a juggernaut in 4 shots

  • @ConsoleFreaked
    @ConsoleFreaked 3 роки тому

    Left a like because of quality

  • @joshbell1335
    @joshbell1335 2 роки тому

    Awesome content

  • @LaCoalicion.
    @LaCoalicion. 3 роки тому

    One thing you should take into account for future ammo comparison videos. The shooting skill has effects on the ammo. Example a .22 cannot dismember anything but with a character with sharpshooting or with a Red Talon Agent one .22 shot can dismember a leg in one shot. This also affects armored zombies. Sharpshooting and RT soldiers also reduce the ammount of headshots needed to remove the helmet of an armored zombie to 4 instead of the traditional 11. I know from experience this also affects combat with jugs, althoug not with ferals. Wnat im trying to say, avoid using red talon agents, sharpshooters or assault characters because they all have increased damage. Stick to weapon handling and gusnlinger to prevent having wrong results.

    • @LaCoalicion.
      @LaCoalicion. 3 роки тому

      Forntunaly the difference is as mentoned small.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +1

      Actually none of the shooting skills has any effects on the number of bullets we need when we shoot the Juggernauts.
      I tested every possibility that might affect the number of bullets we need, but I could only find two mechanics that have any effects on it.
      That's why I made those videos first before making this guide and linked those videos in the pinned comment here. If you are experiencing any mismatches with these charts, one of those mechanics is responsible for that.
      I recommend you to take a look at them first to confirm which one it actually is. I mostly think you got different results because of their "Health regeneration mechanics".

    • @LaCoalicion.
      @LaCoalicion. 3 роки тому +1

      @@StateofDecayScience Dude I also tested it and I also made a video on this a year ago, and Im aware of the Heatlh mechanic, I made the test on Nightmare mode on 2020. And my results were also similar to yours thats why since 2020 I have been advicating for Bouncing Boris since 2020 because they are the cheaper non melee way to take down juggernauts

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +2

      I don't know what do you mean by you tested this. Even if you are late to shoot by one second, you may need 1 extra bullet to take down a Juggernaut's health phase.
      For example, if you use G18 Auto Custom and shoot a jugg's head in full auto with a Gunslinging survivor, it will take 18 bullets. But if you use MP5A2 Spec Ops and shoot the Jugg's head in burst firing mode with an RT, it will take 19 shots. Even if you shoot a Jugg's head slowly using G18 Auto Custom, you will need 19. Whether the survivors are skilled or unskilled, all of them will need the same amount of bullets. Only the time you took will change the results.
      If you had tested this, you should have got the same resuts for all the survivors if the time you took was consistent.
      And why do you have to bring Bouncing Boris in? I didn't say anywhere that guns are the best. It is just an efficiency video specifically made for guns. That's why I specifically asked everyone to not to talk about Explosives and Vehicles here.
      But if you say BB are the cheapest non melee weapon, you are wrong. Cars are cheaper than even Melee weapons and it is also the safest.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +1

      Can you give me the link to the video you made?

  • @lightfenx5796
    @lightfenx5796 2 роки тому

    Amazing work and that, but... There's a guide for bloody ferals and how to destroy the horde of three ferals With the best possible efficiency?

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  2 роки тому

      Check my "The Only State of Decay 2 Guide You Ever Need". It has answers!

  • @_I__I_ERROR_I__I_
    @_I__I_ERROR_I__I_ Рік тому

    Yo what's that pistol with the large magazine? And any tips on how to get it?

  • @905SONICking
    @905SONICking 3 роки тому

    For distance 44 magnum is the sweet spot for cost and effective. However 22lr if is also very effective.

  • @genossolens
    @genossolens Рік тому

    i think the heavy cleo sniper is really efficient, it uses 2 cleo ammo per shot but does as much dmg like the .50 cal rounds for a lot cheaper price

  • @checher100
    @checher100 3 роки тому

    fantastic!

  • @manhphuc4335
    @manhphuc4335 3 роки тому

    Question, why is .44 excluded from the list? With mare's leg and other lever actions, the .44 can certainly be suppressed and have advanced breaks to kill juggernauts.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +1

      .44 is excluded only in the "Required number of body shots category" because a lot bullets required for body shots and there is no practical fully automatic .44 gun available to use. It has been tested in the "required number headshots" category.
      But .357 was tested in all the categories because there is a very good gun available that uses .357 - MPX Submachine Gun. It has 30 capacity mag and features all 3 firing modes.

  • @alexrawnick5680
    @alexrawnick5680 3 роки тому

    Tbh most my community uses 5.56 and magnum (full red talon community) i have a few snipers who use a SVD and SkS which usually drop juggs. Also aren't juggs fire resistant?

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +2

      Juggs are resistant to fire. But starshank is an explosive. Only pyro launcher won't work against them.

  • @autumnleaf7953
    @autumnleaf7953 3 роки тому

    Is Providence Ridge your favourite map? Because most of your tutorial videos seem to be on this map.

  • @racckoon
    @racckoon 3 роки тому

    Rvid Can you make a video about pleague hearts health bar please?

  • @monkimaabloocervantes1357
    @monkimaabloocervantes1357 3 роки тому

    Wow super useful, at least now I can choose a powerful gun 🤩

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому

      What?? You shouldn't choose powerful guns.. get MPX Submachine gun (.357)

  • @rogerstalder7184
    @rogerstalder7184 2 роки тому

    I wonder does it make a diffrence if you got the skill Sharpshooting. it should actualy penetrate the Juggernauts. dont it?

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  2 роки тому

      No. they make no difference.

    • @rogerstalder7184
      @rogerstalder7184 2 роки тому

      @@StateofDecayScience hmm okay. So what is this skill for anway, i mean the penetrating. there are only 2 Enemys with Armor lol. #confused ;)

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  2 роки тому +1

      It will mostly be useless unless we are fighting hundreds of slow moving zombies. Then only we will be able to target multiple zombies at once

  • @lancelusco7448
    @lancelusco7448 Рік тому

    what caliber is a truck what i use

  • @MrShirial
    @MrShirial 2 роки тому

    Is there a way to get the weapon you want for survivor?

  • @unknownastroid_2240
    @unknownastroid_2240 2 роки тому

    Is there any theory history of the jugs.. why the hell they do big like the thugs from Dead island series lol

  • @zackhiggins8716
    @zackhiggins8716 2 роки тому

    You a fucking G dude. Pure INT build in life haha

  • @zoeskee1199
    @zoeskee1199 Рік тому

    What about Cleo ammo?

  • @BADAAKM
    @BADAAKM 3 роки тому

    Muito bom vou comecar a jogar este jogo ...... muito bom o video 👍

  • @ProxMackintosh
    @ProxMackintosh 3 роки тому +2

    Who would've thought .357 rounds are efficient?

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +4

      Grab a lot of MPX Submachine guns in the Go bag pack

    • @ProxMackintosh
      @ProxMackintosh 3 роки тому

      @@StateofDecayScience good idea

    • @wazman77show
      @wazman77show 3 роки тому +1

      I had a suspicion, it’s one of the reasons I asked rvid if he would be interested in doing this vid.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому

      .44 is closer to 7.62mm

  • @Zertemis
    @Zertemis 3 роки тому

    That shitty caliber cost 8 ammo resources in the highest difficulty. I'm always using Cleo blast rifle and hand gun press. Other guns are so noisy.

  • @awesomeashton
    @awesomeashton 3 роки тому

    Thx

  • @LaCoalicion.
    @LaCoalicion. 3 роки тому

    For me the most efficient way to kill a jug using ammo is plain bouncing boris. I really dislike the idea on going "rambo" and firing at them. And seing your graphs, great work by the way, it might actually be the best. 1 unit of ammo to kill 1 jug.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому

      But the problem is, it is hard to use BB against an aggroed Juggernauts in an open area.

    • @LaCoalicion.
      @LaCoalicion. 3 роки тому

      @@StateofDecayScience What? Is not easy but is far from hard.

    • @jamstheshapeshifter
      @jamstheshapeshifter 3 роки тому

      @@StateofDecayScience Definitely not hard

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +2

      @@jamstheshapeshifter I am not talking about myself. I am talking about new players

    • @ArthurCallahanSolos
      @ArthurCallahanSolos 2 роки тому

      @@jamstheshapeshifter it literally is for new players

  • @dontedimora5942
    @dontedimora5942 3 роки тому

    Wow this must have taken forever

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, Absolutely!!! It took 15 Days!! For a 4 minute video!!!!!

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +1

      But my Red Talon video is the one took the most time!!

    • @dontedimora5942
      @dontedimora5942 3 роки тому

      @@StateofDecayScience just saw that one. I believe it.

  • @Moz29
    @Moz29 3 роки тому

    Nothing beats bouncing boris for jugs- throw one at their feet and they instantly die. Just kidding of course- this is a guns only vid I know. You should try the bouncing boris thing if you haven't yet though its great :D

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому

      1:19 You saw BB there????

    • @Moz29
      @Moz29 3 роки тому

      @@StateofDecayScience My bad! Love your content btw even if im annoying in the comments :P

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому

      All the comments are welcome and I am happy to answer any questions. The only thing annoys me are the one upping comments but yours is not!

  • @hinokawamatthew5253
    @hinokawamatthew5253 3 роки тому

    So can a jugg can recover their health then hmmm.

  • @bucephalusv.6071
    @bucephalusv.6071 3 роки тому

    you said "how do I verify myself". if you heart this comment, then its really you. you know what im talking about. :D

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому +1

      Made that comment just for fun!! Even if you clicked my Reddit profile there, my channel would be linked there!! Anyway, You put a smile on my face!! Thanks!!

  • @Spychopunk2077
    @Spychopunk2077 2 роки тому

    i think just use .50 or 40mm is best, just run around and keep it quick and simple.

  • @overthis
    @overthis 3 роки тому

    It's true, 7.62 sucks in this game, except it's the ammo for that 150 rd AK

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  3 роки тому

      If you don't mind using a 100 mag gun, use Masterwork Assault rifle. The best 5.56 in SOD2. You can craft it using the facility mod from trumbull valley bounty pack.

  • @lookatmyright
    @lookatmyright 3 роки тому

    Not that much eh? I guess the real problem is hitting the shots, lol.

  • @spadeXD69
    @spadeXD69 3 роки тому

    ya forgot pyro launcher

  • @thatdeliagirl1491
    @thatdeliagirl1491 11 місяців тому

    🎉🎉

  • @bdleo300
    @bdleo300 Рік тому

    Starshank is another dumb Mickey Mouse DLC op cr4p, I'll never use that ridiculous thing (same as pyro)

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  Рік тому

      Yes, they don't make you feel you are in a zombie apocalypse! They remove the "satisfaction" from the game