Why Watchtowers will get Your Community Killed [Watchtowers 2024 Update] - State of Decay 2

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • In this video, we will discuss the design flaws of watchtowers and the pros and cons of building them in our bases.
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    0:00 Chapters
    0:17 Tower Analysis 1
    0:40 Tower Analysis 2
    0:53 Tower Analysis 3
    1:07 Tower Analysis 4
    2:02 Tower Analysis 5
    3:35 Pros of Watchtowers
    4:01 Cons of Watchtowers
    5:48 Why Beds are Useless?
    Watchtowers are bad state of decay 2
    Should I build Watchtowers?
    Watchtower changes after update 33
    State of decay 2 in 2024
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  • @josegerardo5488
    @josegerardo5488 6 місяців тому +52

    The absolute chad npc survivor just climbing down the watchtower to kick the juggernaut in his belly was peak SOD2 comedy

    • @gts2550
      @gts2550 5 місяців тому +1

      Truly captured the essence of the battle of the bulge

  • @Triumph633
    @Triumph633 6 місяців тому +36

    Pro: Roleplay wise you need a watchtower in a base.
    Cons: everything else :D

    • @BiggusD77
      @BiggusD77 6 місяців тому +5

      Actually, having a watchtower INSIDE a base is absolutely horrendous. The shooting will actively draw zombies to the base, which is the opposite of what you would want when roleplaying. Watchtowers belong on the perimeter (-fence), which should be far enough outside the living quarters that the ones resting would only barely hear the shooting.

  • @Jk_hbngfvg
    @Jk_hbngfvg 6 місяців тому +47

    They need to buff them. There’s no reason something that actually is essentially in a situation like this is useless 😂

    • @LordGadwin
      @LordGadwin 6 місяців тому

      Just get a Haven device. =)

    • @Jk_hbngfvg
      @Jk_hbngfvg 6 місяців тому +1

      @@LordGadwin Okay, but that doesn’t change what I said 😂

    • @SC-ce3vp
      @SC-ce3vp 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@LordGadwin they nerfed it heavily

    • @SomethingVISCID
      @SomethingVISCID 4 місяці тому +1

      @@LordGadwinHaven is arguably more useless than watchtowers.

    • @LordGadwin
      @LordGadwin 4 місяці тому

      @@SomethingVISCID Just play Helldivers 2 instead. =)

  • @robdead4550
    @robdead4550 6 місяців тому +3

    I had always "felt" the towers were not so hot, good to see some real science to confirm it. Many Thanks.

  • @iDEATH
    @iDEATH 6 місяців тому +5

    I think it was a previous video of yours that got me to try without watchtowers. I've never used 'em since! Except the firehall one. It seems to function well if you block off the front and back entrances, since it has a great view into the side lot area and the gate over there. I haven't done any hardcore testing, mind you!

  • @PositivEddie
    @PositivEddie 6 місяців тому +2

    Another great video. Loving your content. Please keep it up!

  • @basilblack9928
    @basilblack9928 6 місяців тому +2

    I only ever really built them for roleplay/aesthetics. But before the siege update the towers at least reduced the threat level so sieges never got big enough to ever really be a real danger. But now Threat level no longer really matters

  • @seltin1988
    @seltin1988 4 дні тому

    i wish we could place guards in them that stay there when a siege happens! but i hope for better base and comunity actions i the 3rd one :D

  • @SoulGhost5249
    @SoulGhost5249 6 місяців тому +1

    Yo Rvid HAPPY NEW YEAR🥳🥳🥳 you, your team and family ❤❤
    I really appreciate this type of video
    Respect🫡🫡

  • @longnguctoi
    @longnguctoi 6 місяців тому

    1:51 LOL . Thank you. Very helpful !

  • @RangerNCR_
    @RangerNCR_ Місяць тому +1

    Had to stay on Bridge fort base in Cascade hills for a while. Dude said 100% truth, trust me. Base looks like a bridge with two doors on sides, and second floor up with two towers.That base could be one of the most defended locations in the game, but there's TWO goddamn watchtowers in it, that can't be destroyed. It means that up to 4 of your team doing like nothing. Zombies comes in like in their own house, being welcome to eat everyone in infirmary. Having 4 survivors now mean that I have to fight a horde on my own. There's hovewer a bright side in it: if there's no wounded survivors on the ground, everyone else just stay up on ladders, and you can go waste zeds with car or stay up and feel yourself like at shooting gallery. But if there's someone down -- they're doomed.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  Місяць тому

      The base has laddered towers, so the ones on the towers won't be in danger. Since the AI is still bad, if anyone is down there, only them will be fighting zombies!

    • @RangerNCR_
      @RangerNCR_ Місяць тому

      @@StateofDecayScience Now I remembered about Sheriff's leader building, large spot hospital. Bridge fort has one large spot on roof, but no small spots.
      So this base might be great choice for Sheriff, because there will be no wounded survivors in dangerous area

  • @simondripdrip815
    @simondripdrip815 6 місяців тому +1

    Really helpful video

  • @simondripdrip815
    @simondripdrip815 6 місяців тому +4

    Another banger.

  • @joshuacabral2348
    @joshuacabral2348 6 місяців тому

    Sniper Tower is great for newbies starting on Lethal Zone. It can totally bail them out on tough situations like Blood Feral packs or Double Juggernaut spawns with hordes.
    But as you grow, you'll find it irrelevant as you get access to high tier weapons and items.
    So in my opinion...
    Is Sniper Tower good? YES!!
    Is it worth to build? Not so much. More on 50/50.
    Is it okay to ignore? Yes.

  • @ThePotchili
    @ThePotchili 6 місяців тому

    I mean I've had exceptional results out of my RT watchtower but that's also with a full RT squad on the fenced warehouse (not many LOS blockers), I don't think they're bad per se but heavily dependent on many factors.

  • @SomethingVISCID
    @SomethingVISCID 4 місяці тому

    Thanks for bringing full-autos into the discussion. RaiderAK is my base-defense unicorn. 🙃

  • @konstantinoskountousias3099
    @konstantinoskountousias3099 5 місяців тому

    i always build a watchtower because it makes the game more real and it really makes sieges much easier. also i have direct fire support when i m returning home and zombies follows me. And if i have 0 beds i build a small slot with 3 beds because if it was real my survivors would use them with schedule, idk why they need 1 each in the game...

  • @mesquiteaviation
    @mesquiteaviation 6 місяців тому

    I have always hated watch towers. Especially the built in towers, because you can’t clear them. You’re stuck with them. I find they pick fights with hoards and draw them into the base, that would have normally just stood there. In my last game, I was in the bridge fort, and the watch towers constantly drew hoards into the base. Now, I’m in the truck stop in providence ridge, and I’m constantly having to clean up hoards that the watch tower pulls in. It used to be that watch towers would reduce noise and sieges, but with the new siege mechanics, watch towers are a liability in my opinion.

  • @mikkodoria4778
    @mikkodoria4778 6 місяців тому +1

    Basically the sod1 watch tower design is superior that sod2 really impresed by undead labs

  • @sashapinesnguyenhienhoa8003
    @sashapinesnguyenhienhoa8003 6 місяців тому

    Unless you can keep the zed away from the tower at all time , which only a few base can watch tower alway gonna be bad

  • @RigbyyGaming
    @RigbyyGaming 6 місяців тому +1

    interesting

  • @Jack-ht2gr
    @Jack-ht2gr 6 місяців тому

    Do we know what the next update will be about yet?

  • @maximvedaprav3377
    @maximvedaprav3377 6 місяців тому

    Brother, why don’t you post a video of your playthrough in the death zone? It's very interesting to see how you build a strategy for collecting resources, completing tasks and building a base.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  6 місяців тому +1

      I am not good at giving long form voice overs. Narrating this itself took me 5 hours because English doesn't roll off my tongue. This is while I am reading the script.
      Imagine me talking unprepared!

    • @maximvedaprav3377
      @maximvedaprav3377 5 місяців тому +1

      You play so well that just recordings of your play from start to finish will be interesting for many to watch. Cut your walkthrough into hour-long videos. You can simply leave the game sounds or add some music. It does not take a lot of time. Try starting a community from scratch and recording a couple of episodes.@@StateofDecayScience

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  5 місяців тому +1

      @@maximvedaprav3377 In recent months, I only play SOD2 for testing stuff. It has been long since I played full campaign

    • @DixieSchizo
      @DixieSchizo 5 місяців тому

      ​@@StateofDecayScience what games have you been playing recently?

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  5 місяців тому +1

      @@DixieSchizo I haven't played any other games for the last 4 years.
      Last game I played was Sekiro

  • @drugsarebad97
    @drugsarebad97 6 місяців тому

    I just like using them to bait in juggernauts for easy takedowns . Tht way there aren’t any outside my base

  • @NETWORK_UNKNOW_BRODCASTER
    @NETWORK_UNKNOW_BRODCASTER 6 місяців тому

    Do you think they will add something new to the game? I'm talking about something big like a new map, new storyline content, idk, something that make me want to go back to the game?

  • @aRedTalonPro
    @aRedTalonPro 6 місяців тому

    Buff or Rework

  • @FirstLast-qg7xn
    @FirstLast-qg7xn 6 місяців тому

    Would watch towers make more sense if you completely car block all but one entry point? That way extra vision at least does more than nothing.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  6 місяців тому +1

      if your watchtower has clear line of sights and it is not close to the door, it will be ok.

  • @Anoni-mus
    @Anoni-mus 6 місяців тому

    Can you make a video about how to make your community happiness in 100% ? I'm playing in lethal zone, and no matter what i try, the moral is always mid

    • @Anoni-mus
      @Anoni-mus 6 місяців тому +1

      I'm trying to get the achievement but don't want to make it in Terror Zone

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  6 місяців тому +3

      Build lounge and activate the highest morale activities in it, build 2x officer quarters and install white noise machine in them, destroy a plague heart, kill a juggernaut, feral and hostile enclave, have power outpost.
      Besides, your survivors themselves will have morale buff from your workshop, infirmary, garden (depends on their leader type)

    • @Anoni-mus
      @Anoni-mus 6 місяців тому +1

      @@StateofDecayScience thanks 🤠👍
      Happy new year from Brazil

  • @SubLucio
    @SubLucio 6 місяців тому

    It's time to see Arvid fighting against RT or the Network just because they use watchtowers

  • @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
    @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 6 місяців тому

    Watch towers remain a waste of space. Only type that's worthy is the sniper one and just for the sniper support radio command. Not the tower itself.

  • @emorsi
    @emorsi 6 місяців тому +2

    The watchtowers are completly useless, no, they are damaging in addition (as shown here in the vid too)... I only use bases without a checkpoint, watchtower and so on.

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  6 місяців тому +1

      They are not completely useless, but the lower tier ones don't make any difference!

  • @DarkLiamtoh
    @DarkLiamtoh 6 місяців тому

    Isn't there a mod to fix?!

    • @StateofDecayScience
      @StateofDecayScience  6 місяців тому +4

      A mod can be made to fix the design. But the Devs need to fix the AI.

  • @albertburger7912
    @albertburger7912 6 місяців тому

    I disagree, it's one of most interesting facilities. If u gear ai with Powerful rifle, .5 . It is very powerful and useful watch tower functions

  • @calmbeast1329
    @calmbeast1329 6 місяців тому

    So boring to hear...