Swimmer gets disqualified for celebrating (Uncut)
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2024
- North Carolina State Senior Owen Lloyd posted the fastest time in the Men's 1650-yard Freestyle, earning him the ACC Title, an automatic entry to the National Championships, and a new best time. Moments later, an announcement was made that Lloyd had been disqualified for "interference with another swimmer."
The rule(s) at play from the NCAA rulebook:
- Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a: "Any competitor who interferes with another swimmer during a race shall be disqualified from that race, subject to the discretion of the referee..."
- Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified."
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this sport does damn near everything in its power to disallow fun
Big fan, and I totally agree. Love your videos!
Love the vids bro.
I agree. Swimming is never going to become a popular sport if dumb stuff like this continues.
Totally right kyle, this is also pretty good footage documenting everything happened after the race and disqualification
have they tried Galactic Swimming?
This feels like getting a 0 on a test because you spoke with your friend after you were both done
Except like 50x worse.
Also, Jesus Christ loves you! He is the only way to heaven. May God bless you! 😊
This literally happened to me moments after finishing a test in high school. We were instructed not to talk, and I had forgotten that and commented to my neighbor “that wasn’t so bad.” The teacher gave us both 0s. I had to plead with the teacher to at least excuse my neighbor as it wasn’t her fault that I had leaned over to make the comment. It worked, but I still got the 0.
@@petelancaster6715 The teacher was right. Answering the comment: yes, if you are doing an important test and not only you're not allowed to talk after finishing the test (not at least until everybody else has finished aswell, or the time limit has runed out) but it's explicitly in the rules that you will be disqualified as punishment if that happens, in that case if you break the rules the only one you can blame is yourself.
@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alot thanks but kinda random
@@Jesus_Christ_loves_you_alotlove how you threw in that hustle at the end 😂
Next time he wins you know he will not celebrate again; this is how you kill someone’s happiness. So sad.
Nwo master plan
Good, maybe win with some class and follow the rules of the competition, this isn’t a frat party.
@@HeyhitmeBAM Are you dumb? The guy won by a landslide and in the heat of the moment wanted and deserved to celebrate. I can tell you are absolutely miserable.
@@HeyhitmeBAM where the fuck do you people come from?
@@HeyhitmeBAM there is a reason you are the only person with that opinion. The part your emotional problems have a problem with isn't what he got disqualified for anyway. he could have done the same thing litterally 3 seconds later, he just made a mistake not thinking lanes on the other end where still active so he couldn't cross into one where his team was already done. This is an optionally enforced rule for causing problems with other lanes that was used at the wrong time. Thanks for pulling out frat party from no where as it isn't slighly relevant to the video. Every living thing that sees your comment will go away knowing you have something wrong with you. just because you see a guy happy about an accomplishment like beating his overal best time doesn't mean something is wrong. work on yourself a little.
judges are just salty they haven't done anything even near as important in their lives
True, they just passed exam memorising shits
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The race was still on and the other swimmers were still racing. That's why. It wasn't just because he celebrated. Check the facts.
@@lvlysticgirl those 2 racers were finished. A rule shouldn't count when the qualification isn't there.
@@lvlysticgirl Hush, I understand that you're miserable with your life and have never achieved anything meaningful or significant in your life, and you feel bad for yourself. But keep that to yourself.
Anyone defending the decision in the comment section is a loser. It would make sense if he crossed over into someone's lane who was still finishing the race but he didn't.
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The worst thing is he was celebrating with his friend who ALREADY finished the race
yeah but others were still finishing up is the issue. however he didn't impede them so i guess they chalked it up as unsportsmanlike conduct.
*already
Its splitting hairs, I used to competitive swim. Its down to literally what the rules were for that event, word for word. Im betting its written no swimmer shall cross lanes at any point, regardless if the race was finished or not. But yes, the man broke a record, he deserves the win.
@@dajosco115 Its irrelivent, when a swimmer finishes his laps the timer is instantly stopped the secind he hits the wall. but on the other foot, it distracts the audience from cheering on the other swimmers, and "takes some of their glory" at their finish I guess. Not worth DQ my opinion.
@@user-iy1vo2jf2q *irrelevant
I was expecting to see some disgusting display of egotism and hubris. This kid was excited that’s all. Totally deserves the win and to celebrate. Ridiculous ruling.
Same. This is so wrong
Unfortunately for him, he screwed up. Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
I'm going to be honest and real when I say I genuinely wish there were more egotistical people winning and celebrating their victories. Getting really tired of the "humble and modest" people winning. It's just hating at that point
The race was still on going, the other guy is irrelevant as the rules are you can’t cross lanes while the race is on, he got jumpy.
@@roberthedrick1397 That rule is clearly to punish disrupting swimmers that haven't finished. He crossed into a lane of a swimmer that already finished. We have brains, let's use some fucking logic and give the kid the fucking medal. Shit like this is fucking pathetic.
This sort of stupid technicality is what happens when idiots judge by the letter of the rule, rather than the spirit of the rule. The NCAA should have gotten involved and corrected that. His harmless celebration is NOT what that rule was put in place to prevent. A complete injustice.
The referee used two rules and only one makes some sense, basically one states that you can’t interfere with other swimmers which doesn’t apply in this case. And rule 2 states you can’t switch lanes in a race which was an extremely vague rule since they both finished and hence stopped participating in the heat. Only one of these rules are discretionary meaning it’s up to the referee’s judgement to implement it, this being the interference rule. The other rule is fixed meaning it isn’t circumstantial and is applied no matter what which is a big problem with this sport.
So stupid. Its not like he was showing poor sportsmanship by gloating in his competator's faces or being vulgar. He was just celebrating with him. Poor guy.
Swimmer: "YES!!! I WON!! MY BEST TIME EVER!!!"
Referee: "Fun detected. Engaging emergency protocols."
No: Rules violation detected; psychopathy inferred.
It was the right thing to do : when he lets himself fall in the other lane, he makes waves that can affect the chrono of others swimmers. Imagine the first F1 pilot who finishes the race starts to make a burnout and makes smoke al overt the finish line. That's the same thing, and that was the right decison to disqualify him.
@@Zuriki_ but look how small those waves are
@@Zuriki_ “”””waves””””, bro he literally broke a record, who cares????
@mickeymousesupremency149 Having worked in the mental health field in numerous positions for over 25 years, including direct client care, and without yet searching Google, I'd say it means presenting the personality disorders and conditions of a psychopath. Now I WILL look it up: "Psychopathy is a neuropsychiatric disorder marked by deficient emotional responses, lack of empathy, and poor behavioral controls, commonly resulting in persistent antisocial deviance and criminal behavior." Bit of advice: the ad hominem is the worst fallacy of all: It instantly demonstrates you have gifted your opponent a very satisfying win.
They should disqualify that official from that job.
I agree, but officiating isn't a job (unless it's been changed recently). For both swimming & track & field it costs money to take the different levels of officiating courses & it's all unpaid volunteer work.
The person who made the rule should.
Rules are rules
@@temp5782 You can bent a rule though if the rule isn't any helpful in a certain case. Or at least you should do it. Some people just follow rules blindly even if it only courses harm. Tolerance of ambiguity is an important trade!
@@maestro3887 Yes… but not on this level of sports. The rules should be discussed and changed arbitrary. He knew the rules and agreed on them. This is sad, bad rule but the judges job is to enforce the rules.
Bruh, where's the point in sport if you can't be emotional. Just put robots instead of humans and force the referees to watch.
What were they meant to do?
The problem wasn't the emotion but the rules he broke that are in place to maintain the integrity of the race. The problem is in this exact situation the only people that ruined the integrity of the race was the judges. By acting by the letter of the law and not using any reasonable situational judgement the judges acted against the spirit of the law in the first place.
I hope the judges who disqualified him get fired and banned from ever judging any sporting event again, absolute disgraces
No they shouldnt be. Its the rule not the judges. Take the rule out of the book not the people who are upholding it
@@BumfCromulent The rule book refers to interfering with SWIMMERS DURING A RACE. Neither lane was occupied by anyone swimming or racing. They had both finished. Following the rules as written, he should be fine.
@@BumfCromulent The judges are responsible for good sportsmanship, no? The referees should make decisions in unique circumstances like this one and see which option is the best for the players whilst respecting the rule book, basically the opposite of what these judges have done
@@BumfCromulent absolutely not! its not the rule, its the dispassionate and pedantic application of it, thats not what its there for, rules like this have a place but the referee, judge, or whoever must have the common sense to recognise its proper use. Its people like that referee who ruin job environments, policing, classroom settings, customer service, healthcare, bureaucratic sectors, you name it. This sort of thing should be treated with the utmost scrutiny.
MAD respect to the guy who said he wouldn't take the winning spot.
This is disgusting. The judges have lost their humanity. God bless his teammate for his attitude and support.
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@@kristinleigh545 The referees literally had no other option as the rule mandates automatic dq for the swimmer. So maybe be angry at the swimmer for breaking rules and stop being disgusting.
@@lunalane Rules suck. Everyone knows that. Read the room.
@@lunalanethe only thing that is disgusting is your comment.
who let a reddit moderator become a referee
LMAO true.
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Dude this is the best comment on UA-cam honestly this made me laugh!😂
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The most accurate comment ever. Reddit mods are truly awful
Whoever made the decision to disqualify should be immediately fired. They are not fit to be a judge. Terrible decision.
says random commenter who probably hasn't read the rules of the event once in their life
@@klipk7296 someone trained for years and won just for a petty judge to DQ him over nothing. not even the commentators knew what happened. rules are made for a reason and that rule was not enforced for the reason it was made.
He crossed into another competitor’s lane, who had finished his race, and then gets disqualified for interference of other players….. the only guy he would’ve affected was *Done.* That rule should not stand.
I like how the judges don’t have enough balls to actually show themselves when making a dumb decision like that.
Afraid the spectators may chuck them in the pool😁
Bruh, the rules are there for a reason. Also nobody has to show themselves on camera for you to see. This is not a fight, people are just doing the job they are paid to do. It's not like the judges gain anything from him not winning. They are just doing their job.
@@webrevolution.found the judge
@@webrevolution. bro will lick anyone's boots christ almighty
@@webrevolution. They could have let it go. Rules are there for safety and fairness of the sport. In no way did his actions interfere with the outcome of the race. The fact that they are judges and could not use good "judgement" appears that they weren't doing their job
This was literally one of those moments where an official is free to interpret a rule as they personally see fit. The rule exists to prevent any interference of another swimmer before the race is finished. 0 swimmers were interfered with. The official is an asshole. Honestly I think the crowd should have gone on riot.
And on top of that consider the following. Some nasty competitor deliberately takes an hour to complete the heat so noone can exit the pool or they are disqualified. To all the blind sheep reciting "rules are rules", I guess you did not think of that.
Nah, it was more so the rules being shit to begin with. Judges make decisions based on the rules, and try to not do it on their own opinions, and its most likely this was always never allowed and they're just applying that. Awful, but probably absolutely not the judges fault, but whoever makes the rules for the national qualification.
@@tortoisewarrior4855100% the judges fault, making a judgement call in that situation, reaching the decision “let’s take away this kids medal for celebrating with his teammate who finished even though he interfered with no one” 🤡
Whoever decided this, should show his name and face.
@@tortoisewarrior4855
How is the rule shit?
You can interfere with other swimmers, seems like a most obvious rule, Otherwise whats stopping you from kicking, punching or biting a swimmer to beat him?
I agree with the judges, the race wasnt over, and hes blocking other lanes.
Those judges should be fired for this. With that much adrenaline in his system it would be really hard not to get excited and celebrate. Those judges are pure evil. It’s sad to watch because you can just see his heart breaking in that moment. Not to mention it’s probably extremely humiliating.
Even the broadcasters are confused and kinda angry
Literally everyone is against that decision, the fact they kept the disqualification tells exactly who they are.
aleksandr karelin lost the olympic gold in wrestling on a technicality. learn to control your emotions
@@grawakendream8980thats the same as legally right but morally wrong
@@Altair2786 so now it's question of morality lol. ok
@@grawakendream8980we talking about swimming and homie brought up wrestling
@@grawakendream8980 So... having basic empathy and an oppinion in the matter is now being emotionally unstable? sure pal. I'd reccomend you to project elsewhere.
The guy who ended up taking the technicality saying he’s not taking the medal is a serious friend and shows amazing sportsmanship
"He beat me fair and square and he deserves that medal not me" Good teammate and friend
I mean, any decent human being would do the same, no one would take that medal in pride
u know they homies coz id do the same for mine ✊✊ respect to him man
Rules like these were made by fools.
K kid
the judge went on to moderate r/minecraft
Referee: You’re disqualified
Swimmer:WHY??
Referee:for being too happy
Bullsht
@@NNRedemptionStart your brain
@@android-user i Started IT. But He wasnt disqualified BC He celebrated
This is the perfect example of some try-hard ref enforcing a rule but completely and utterly ignoring the spirit of the rule. Obviously no interference was caused and the swimmer in that lane was already done. Insane.
that what i said to cops: you are insane, there were no traffic on the road, you are ignoring the spirit of red light, it means: do whatever the duck you want on this street and i was happy about my job promotion!
it’s stupid. it’s as if robots are enforcing the rule. this clearly isn’t what the rule tries to prevent and any person with common sense can see that.
the judges just said “well technically, he broke a rule” without actually considering why that rule exists in the first place
Is it not allowed if the lane is finished? That is dumb
hey, ask a stupid question, get ... wrecked.
@@zloidooraque0 that’s- without a doubt- the worst analogy i’ve heard all week. breaking traffic laws and hugging a teammate who’s finished with the race are two totally different things.
to fix that analogy, it’s more like getting that promotion, driving home with your work friend in separate cars, getting out of the car, having a drink to celebrate, and getting a ticket for a DUI in your own house. do you think you can see why that doesn’t really work now?
I get the point of the rule, not going into someone else's lane to avoid interfering with another swimmer, but when they've both finished the race the ruling is as pedantic as it is ridiculous
Rules are rules dude
@@KhaoShungsome rules are stupid
@@KhaoShung rules have exceptions
race was over @@KhaoShung
@@KhaoShungrules should be a guideline to avoid negative behaviour, but then there's also people like you
👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼 it’s not like he jumped into a lane with someone still swimming.
Yes he did
@@davecoop9579 What video did you watch,, it surely wasn’t this one 🤣😂😅
@jimmypugh3332 This video is carefully curated to imply that the "winner" was punished for celebrating. This is false. He was punished for breaking a long-standing rule that swimmers may not cross into any other lane while the race is still under way. He undertook to follow the rules and he failed to do so. The judgement was perfectly fair. There can be no argument.
@@davecoop9579 I know what he did,read my comment again,I’m just saying,the lane he jumped in to celebrate with his buddy was already done,he didn’t jump in someone else’s lane that the person was still swimming, he didn’t interfere with nobody’s race.the judges should have overlook that.
@jimmypugh3332 You don't understand the rule, then. He knowingly broke the rule and was rightfully disciplined. Rules are rules and he agreed to abide by them. There is no valid argument against this.
how miserable do you have to be to disqualify a kid for celebrating WITH his team mate AFTER the team mate already finished too! there was no “interference”. he made HISTORY.
a rule is a rule. not that hard to follow. cross the lane after everyone leaves. that's totally fine.
@@noob.168 do you want the officials number? I think he is looking for boot lickers.
@@noob.168 bootlicker alert
@@noob.168you must be fun at parties
@@noob.168 You must be fun to hang around
That's what I call a lawsuit right there, if he has the grounds to make a case for it ofc. Sue the referees, sue the whole damn league/organization if possible.
Unfortunately as harsh this is, it is most likely that all competitors has signed with their own signature in a form that *”I have read all of the terms and conditions regarding about this competition. Any violations may result in disqualification and possibly blacklisted for an x amount of seasons.”* Competitors should’ve known all of the regulations, which will invalid the lawsuit and will cost him a lot of money for nothing.
oh man. that pissed ME off.
Holy shit. This is crushing. What a perfect way to absolutely discourage future athletes from wanting to compete.
Why cause they can’t follow the rules…
@StefanRial he could have climb the pool and celebrate on land. Not a hard thing to do.
you mean like in football, where players get ejected from the game and fined for celebrating?
@StefanRial the Australian women's swim team beat the world record in the olympics and was disqualified for something the same....it resulted in the USA getting the gold metal. USA team didn't complain...hell they pointed it out....its heart breaking and a bit S*?t.
f8k the rules. that decision is a f8king joke and i hate swimming.@@rolandoramirez1193
BRO EVEN THE ANNOUNCER SAYS “GET ON THAT LANE” 0:42
His friend was finished in the race for over 10 seconds and they still disqualify him for "crossing the lane before he had finished" Like what???
He didn’t get it. His competitors didn’t get it. The crowd didn’t get it. The TV reporters didn’t get it. This really isolates the judges.
Anyone with a brain got it. Don't break the rules.
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c bet you're fun at parties
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Wow. I'm sorry officer.
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c What rule did he break? obviously no one understood
@@user-fh2vx3hd6c Anyone with a real brain understands that you can't interfere with a another swimmer that has already finished the race, plus it was his TEAMMATE, it's not like he fell into a random competitors lane while they were still racing, that would have been uncalled for
That rule is the equivalent of a baseball player celebrating a home run by giving someone running to the plate behind him a high five after he goes over the plate, and getting the homerun disqualified because of it, it makes no sense and everyone knows it
Alt title: Swimmer gets disqualified for being happy.
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that is straight up messed up :/
The race was still on and the other swimmers were still racing. That's why. It wasn't just because he celebrated. Check the facts.
The race was still on and the other swimmers were still racing. That's why. It wasn't just because he celebrated. Check the facts.
@@lvlysticgirlthat’s even stupider lmao
like why are you going out of their way to defend them when you’re only gonna make them look more soulless than they already are
The fact his teammate *already* finished the race and when he crossed his teammates line to celebrate hes “disqualified”
He just experience whole spectrum of emotions in under a few minutes
As an experienced Swim Coach myself I understand the rule, however if both swimmers have finished the race, referees need to apply some common sense. Every winner in swimming history celebrates like that! Pathetic officials.
Isn't other sanction possible for this mystake ? He broke le rule so sanction seem normal but discalification is just too high !
I have never seen two swimmers competing in the last heat and the rest were a lap behind +. what kind of beer league is that? there is no winner under FINA sitting a celebrating on lane until everyone is done
He broke the rules and got DQ. What's the problem?
@@DecodingWithJordan
Punishement is too strong regarding the fault.
@@Simon-if2hs but he broke the rules...
Crazy how much people love to use authority to ruin other people's fun.
On the point, that is also why our society is so fucked up unfortunately. Power with the wrong hands and you can clearly see how everything is ruined year by year..
Sad people with no power over their own lives so they try to take it out on others. Pathetic humans.
Yeah, who needs to have rules!?
@@mintymusnot stupid rules lmao dumb
@@mintymus Tyrannical rules are shit, normal rules are ok
'Rules as Written versus Rules as Intended' moment.
Disqualified for huggin his teammate when both were done swimming??? That’s ridiculous!!!
don't u just love america.
These crowd should have went after the judges
Other people were still swimming.
@@xiaokaSo what? That’s not th point, the rule is in place to stop finish swimmers from interfering with people still swimming. They were both done so the rule doesn’t apply. It’s literally his own teammate too
@@jurelrossanyonsmith-gk1pbbro what?
He did not interfere with the other swimmer. The guy had already finished swimming. This needs to be protested! Stupid rule!
@@basnoordermeer4249gtfoh😂 you can’t even sit here and act like this wasn’t stupid asl jus stop.
I have to agree! Lloyd got this fair and square! Never liked that rule.
He crossed into an inactive lane (teammate was done swimming). So... how, exactly, is the rule "effective" in this case? Wouldn't it only be effective when applied to active lanes?@@basnoordermeer4249
@@basnoordermeer4249This is snowflake rule
@@basnoordermeer4249 yes, it was an incredibly stupid interpretation and use of that rule, and I say that as a swimming coach and ex pro swimmer. He didnt interfere with any other active swimmer, and the spirit of the rule is only about those. Such celebrations actually happen all the time even in Olympics without such stupid disqualifications happening. Mongoloid ref with a pathetic need to use their power, or someone with an agenda, vengence, or something.
He did win, fair and square. Screw your technicalities.
How can you interfere with someone who's already finished the race? Those judges should get a fkn life
That’s like a dick move you’d expect from a school PE teacher who always had a grudge against you during the entire school year for no reason.
@@lopez8277is your brain dented?
@@lopez8277 grow up
@@lopez8277 >> that would be cheating
How is celebrating with his teammate, who had ALSO completed the race, even _slightly_ cheating?
True@@mbg4681
@@lopez8277How stupid are you??
I played soccer almost all my life, touching a ball is so different compared to cheering your win with your teammate that already finished the swim as well.
You must have a rough life for being so cruel. Touching a ball is literally everything against soccer. Since you can only use your feet😭😭💀
I can understand a penalty for being a sore winner, for gloating, for rubbing your win in an opponent's face, or being disruptive. That isn't what happened here. The judges are incredibly pathetic and immature.
Idk man, getting up on a lane line while competitors are still swimming is pretty disrespectful. I swam competitively (I was mediocre, not a record breaker), and we were always taught that when you finish, you stand and wait until everyone else finishes before you do anything else
@@Sklounst_Actualdude whos lane he entered was also finished genius
@@Sklounst_Actual AGREED! The judges were simply following the rule. Don't like the rules? Change them. The kid made a terrible mistake. He can learn to weave it into his life for the better if his coach and family help him. The lady announcer? She's wrong. You do NOT celebrate in someone else's lane when the race is still underway.
@@Sklounst_Actualmaking up rules that don’t exist AFTER someone has already broken the rule doesn’t mean anything. You people have mental issues
@@Sklounst_Actual Ur obviously crap at what you do if you believe what he did ruined the experience for the runner-up. If I was that athlete in second place, I would throw my medal into the guys lap and stated pubically that i'd came second. It isnt right and yet some people like you defend the stupid decision all because that would've hurt YOUR feelings.
"Climb over that line, you've earned it"
The stupid ass rule makers: I don't think sooooooo
"another swimmer during a race"
The other contestant had already completed the race as well, and was no longer swimming. This should 100% be overturned.
"Let's ruin someone's career for the jokes"
@@joris5429 ferme ta gueule, ne refais pas le monde à ta façon personne ne réagit comme ça c'est ridicule
@@joris5429what ?
@@joris5429what are you yapping about?
The game is rigged
National Soft Athletic Association
What a skilled ref, somehow manages to make people uninvolved in the sport viscerally angry at him
whats his name? and adress?
@@consumoholic not the best way to indicate your agreement here
Took the words right out of my mouth. I don't even watch Swimming at all. And I want to become involved in this sport just to support this young man and see Justice take place.
@@consumoholic You hear one swimming rule and youre ready to grab pitch forks. Bro it’s not that serious. Wild to me you make that joke but they’re actually receiving threats.
Facts
I feel so bad for him. This is horrible. He didn't mess up any other swimmers or cheat or anything.
swimming race is already boring enough but to also have the most karen ass rules ever, this is why no one watches swimming.
Judges spent their highschool years as lifeguards yelling at kids to stay off the ropes
NCAA swimming
Where a man is allowed to swim with women but a man cannot celebrate
@@skoop651 he was celebrating but he removed himself from a race that was still going on. Like all swimmers he can punch the air, hug the person either side of him or even wet himself as long as he’s in their own lane. Simple.
@@cherylmartin8086 ... you know he was disqualified for interference with another swimmer right ?
@@Not_A_Lazy_Dev it was because he climbed on a lane rope and left his lane to celebrate with another swimmer whilst the race was still going.
@@skoop651 Is this just a spam account or what?
His teammate was a class act with that " he will be getting that medal"
Totally agree
well I don't want to be that guy but.... I'm a terrible human being and even I wouldn't want that hunk of metal, It doesn't feel earned, where's the pride in it?
that alone is enough for both to earn
@@bungiecrimes7247 What do you mean
@@qqy He means the guy who came in second, he wouldn't want the medal because he didn't deserve it, Lloyd deserves it
The sole reason judges exist is to make a nuanced decision in situations like these, might as well just let a robot check a positive or negative for any rules lol That judge is clearly unfit for their job
Before enforcing a rule on someone, the purpose of the rule has to be kept in mind not just blindly enforce it and get someone disqualified. Here the purpose of the rule is obviously to make it so no one interferes in another athlete’s swimming. This rule could have been used here to disqualify him, the only problem? BOTH THE ATHLETES WERE DONE WITH THEIR RACE.
He and his teammate were already done with the race when he entered the other lane. That rule was specifically written to prevent interference while the race is still in progress. But as those two were already finished, he caused no interference. Major props to his teammates for supporting him and refusing the automatic win.
also no interference with those still racing, nobody for obvious reason noticed him celebrating because they were swimming and racing
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b: "A swimmer who changes lanes during a heat shall be disqualified." The heat hadn't finished. Stupid rule, that could be revised, but it is what it is. All sports have some unpopular rules but they certainly shouldn't be changed from play to play. It's the participants responsibility to be aware of them. Accountability...a value of the past?
@@roberthedrick1397 you realise what judges exist for right? if all we did was take rules for a sport at face value, judges wouldnt even have a job. they are there to decide technicalities and nuance. the spirit of the rule not the words. the world isnt black and white. i can tell you never watch sports and just want to wag your finger to pad your ego. he didnt interfere with other lanes still in progress, therefore most judges would deem no interference and let it fly but i guess the judges this time were similar to you. egotistical with their head in the clouds.
@@newp0rtThat guy is just copy pasting that comment in threads. Clearly never achieved anything and is resorting to demeaning others to make himself feel better. Pathetic.
@@newp0rt This is even more egregious when you see that the teammate who technically won by default of the disqualification said he wouldn't accept his own "win" either and admitted the guy won fair and square. I don't watch sports though, so I don't know much about the nuances of this, but I would be inclined to believe a judge is there to make the calls in line with the spirit of the rule on a case by case basis.
ah yes, interference with someone who finished the race
Someone didnt like that he was happy and wanted to change that
and is also your teammate
@@atte9702 If I'm misrable, why shouldn't you be either. Look at me I'm a referee btw and I hate my life
Fr! Makes no sense. Interference my ass. Even the announcers were stunned.
Between this and males swimming against women I will never watch another swimming event.
I wonder what that referee thought when he went home that night. "Damn, I did a good job today". What a scum bag
Props to the person who ended up 'winning' in the end after Owen's disqualification. He stood up for him and did the right thing even if he was being told he won.
"Hey so even though you just beat your personal best by 4 seconds, won a conference championship, and punched a ticket to nationals, we couldn't help but notice that you got a little too happy about all that..."
Exactly we’re all human and it’s a stupid rule anyway!
@@billweeks9606I'm sure ladies are pleased around you
@@billweeks9606his excitement shown through him literally hopping over to celebrate with his teammate (who had already finished swimming). *Its a dumb rule.* Just accept it
@@billweeks9606it's also illegal to walk down the street with an ice cream cone in your back pocket in some states. Don't you think some rules are plain dumb?
@@billweeks9606 how bout you breakdown that rule for us? How tf did his action disrupt the race in anyway??
I just imagine the NCAA Officials smiling as he's breaking down. Legit scumbags for doing this.
What does that stand for?
National Collegiate Athletics Association@@gunnar1797
@@gunnar1797 National Collegiate Athletics Association. They are the governing body for college sports in the US
It's not the NCAA. It's ACC officials in this case.
It's most likely retaliation towards NC State by disgruntled ACC members. NC State has the current head of the ACC and all the big schools (Clemson, UNC, FSU) have a grudge against him for various reasons related to other sports@@rustytutton9473
The judges should be disqualified from judging ever again
God loves you all
@@dizo-jp2tdgod wouldn’t have judged him so unfairly
@@alcyonaecorrect!
@@dizo-jp2td God doesn't love these judges
They probably found out he supports Trump. Wouldn't be the first time I see something like that.
Imagine winning olympics first but being disqualified and you prepared for this a year
That wasn't a technical ruling that was corruption
"He will be getting that medal"
The closest thing to "FU judges" without actually saying it.
Also an absolute daydream.
@@debrasnipes7431 Well, no. They are going to put that medal around his neck and he can easily take it off and give it to his teammate. Not super surprising that someone would do it, either. Who in hell wants a gold medal for a race in which everyone saw him finish second?
You just did! ...and rightfully so!
not second but first since one got disqualified . @@mrdevito2063
@@the_one_and_carpool the point went right over your head.
Props to the guy who said he wasn't gonna take the glory while they snatched the obvious winner's dreams away. The referees made a fool out of that event and themselves.
i wouldnt do that, and he never did, he won it fair and square.
@@goodbyemr.anderson5065what do you mean, I hope you aren’t saying he didn’t give it to him. Cause they both came out and said that it was given to him, it’s in his room. It went to the rightful winner
@@zealotdraws3017Your overuse of pronouns makes it impossible to follow what you are saying.
@@philipmccracken697 no it doesn't lol
@@philipmccracken6973rd grader reading comprehension skills
the referee was either a karen, or a discord mod who simps for an unhappy egirl
damn bunch of old men wanted to feel powerful and just kill everyones vibe. what a sport.
jealous old men or something cant stand to watch the young succeed
@@xgouchxstrangler_yttv451 Rules are rules.
Come on. That is a stretch to say the reason is because of jealous old men. Do you really believe that?
No, this is a clear case of being young and dumb or feeling inferior to old men lol@@bradspringer2372
@@bradspringer2372100% old heads are the biggest haters on planet earth
The purpose of this rule is clearly to deter swimmers from interfering with other swimmers still racing. Both of the swimmers involved here were obviously finished with the race.
Lloyd was disqualifed under rule 5.1b and has nothing to do with interference.
@@hottuna2006 It does bro, Section 5 Article 1 A-F are ALL labeled underneath "Interference" as a subsection to Fouls as a whole. It is quite literally only there so you don't unfairly interfere with other swimmers, going into a lane that has a swimmer that has already finished and is totally fine celebrating with you is not interference.
Could you please explain what the rule means instead of just sighting its number? I can't seem to find a list of rules for competitive swimming that has this numeration @@hottuna2006
@@chaotikkiller1617 not to mention the other swimmer was on his own team too
but the race wasn't over yet. You clearing don't understand racing, and I hope you try to race one day in any sport because its timeless tradition, that doesn't change for any generation, especially this one.
The judges really said ☝️🤓 with that announcement
3:07 “So basically you fell into another guys lane by accident while you were both celebrating That caused a massive disruption because the swimmers 50 yards away from you could obviously notice. Next time, don’t celebrate a lifetime achievement.”
His teammate is such a chad on making that bold stand against that unfair disqualification.
@user-se3kj5ej4d I am just a fish
@user-se3kj5ej4d buhu
was surprised, yeah. to see some honesty and good sportsmanship in sports...unheard of
@user-se3kj5ej4dNo. No more content creators! Get a job.
Rules is rules my dear
This is pure cruelty masquerading as rules. These judges are psychopaths.
Let's not be throwing that term around here. I'm not saying the judges aren't assholes, but "psychopath" is a real medical condition that is far too serious and sometimes dangerous to be used as an insult.
@@ZeMeatMuncher Cruel, then.
@@zoetropo1 Maybe not Psychopath , but Sociopath fits accurately, as they obviously have some personal issues that they are expressing in a very public and concerning manner, ego-maniacs come to mind.
They enforced the letter of the law and not the spirit of the law. The rule is meant to prohibit swimmers from interfering with others. The swimmer finished in the lane his leg went into.
@@ZeMeatMuncher ok well hes a f 49 then.
This is like getting a 0 in the middle of your math test because you asked the person in front of you for a calculator
Me after Reddit mods taking down my most effortful meme
Crossing into the lane of someone who is still swimming would be a reasonable disqualification. But the swimmer in the next lane had finished also. This decision is totally bonkers.
That's what I'm saying... Dude was already done and even celebrated WITH him... WTF?!?
Yup. The referee is just a power obsessive human being. This decision tells a lot of his/her character.
Was this upheld?
That other finisher WAS HIS TEAMMATE
100%
When you hire a reddit mod to supervise the event.
For real lmao
actually though
Don't forget the discord mod as well
LOL Ikr
@@BoldBolod8 basically the same person 🤣
"LETS GOO I WON!"
Referee: HES HAVING FUN? HOW CAN THAT BE? DISQUALIFIED!!!!
You must be kidding what S was that? To cancel someone's joy at such an achievement. Someone definitely got out of bed from the wrong side that day.
This is some Umbridge level bs. How spiteful do you have to be to rob someone of their greatest achievement for virtually no reason?
Hilarious that Umbridge is so intolerable she gets her own tier of bullshittery
Someone got bullied as a kid and just couldn't let it go. Huge loser.
@@thefootballer777 Bro she is a menace, no level of BS is on par with hers 🤣
There is a reason. Nobody watches this sport, but this video has 4M views.
@@Rinshun_it's blowing up fast too, was 3.8M just a few hours ago!
referees were 100% hall monitors when they were in school
gingers and hated by literally everyone
@@AdamFontenet-jf3qp they might grow up to be power tripping Karens. IDK
usually they are parents who really care about ALL these kids. It's tragic but absolutely the right call.
They all volunteered to be Umps at little league games and yelled at children for breaking big major league game rules.
@@AdamFontenet-jf3qpyou're too literal...
That ref needs to be taught a lesson. You don't just destroy someone's career on a whim like that because you're jealous they're happy and you aren't. What an absolute scumbag.
His teammate is a real one for voicing his opinion during the interview and refusing to take the podium.
Stand up young man right there.
Eh you guys give him too much credit, I'm sure he'd agree.
In the end, he took the podium
@@RobbyBabesI feel the same way, like it actually would have been wrong of his teammate to not say anything
True sportsmanship for sure.
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1a. He DID NOT interfere with another swimmer.
Rule 2, Section 5, Article 1b. He WAS NOT an active swimmer who changed lanes during a heat. He had finished as did the other lane swimmer who had also finished. Both rules refer to active swimmers
He needs a lawyer and a Go Fund Me page
All the other people in the comment section who argue against the winner saying he just “broke the rules” need to see this
@@prabhav1788 well, the majority of people that say that just want to be different that's all
@@bernardkoey4087 yeah, kinda figured they were rage-baiting anyways
I don't know for the Go Fund me (??) but the lawyer, sure.
He's an NCAA kid in 2024. He doesn't need a GoFundMe now that he can get paid for this.
Not only was the lane he entered swimmer done he was celebrating with him. Two good friends just enjoying after a competitive heat. Definitely judges didn’t use their judgment correctly here.
Meanwhile, man doesn't get disqualified for competing against women.
Lol shut the hell up and go to another comment section jeez
He crossed the lane to a teammate who was already finished.
To celebrate.
That is the dumbest ruling use on a situation calling for it ever.
The kid trained a very long time for that event. Then to take it from him with such reasoning?
Uncalled for. Very unsportsmanlike as a judge. That judge or judges should be banned from these events for that call.
This needs to be overturned.
Ten four!
rules are rules
@@AiVaultGuyRules are made for a reason, to blindly follow them is ignorant at best. Context is very important
@@AiVaultGuy and he didn’t break any rules as he didn’t interfere with the other swimmer’s race. both swimmers were done when he crossed into the other lane
@@gonnn777F "nO gUyS, yOu DoN't uNdErStAnD. We sHoUlD AlL jUsT FoLlOw tHe RuLeS eVeN WhEn tHeY DoN't mAkE SeNsE tO bE PuT iNtO eFfEcT"
The other swimmer was DONE swimming thus NO INTERFERENCE. These refs should be fired and the original winner reinstated and given a FULL APOLOGY. What a DISGRACE! God bless~
It doesn't matter...cuz the competition was still on going and the guy on the other side of him wasn't done....
@@midnull6009found the judge
@@midnull6009 The lane where he went into was his teammate who WAS done. It's right there in the video. God bless~
@@midnull6009He interfered with guy on the other side? How?
@@midnull6009youre bad at seeing + hearing + being alive
How sad and pathetic do those refs lives have to be? I hope they're watching this and realizing just how dumb they must be to have literally every single person tell them they were wrong.
That teammate is a real one.
Swimmer: So happy I won!
Referee: My happiness senses is tingling. You're DISQUALIFIED!
Yeah, who needs rules!?
@@mintymus We need rules, but rules need to be applied in a logical way. Yes, he indeed broke the rule, but it didn't affect the competition itself nor the performance of the rest of the swimmers.
@@mintymuswhat he did would not have ruined it for the other swimmers
Guarantee you, it was a liberal.
@@argent5196 Rules are rules.
What a loser that judge is. It's the swimming equivalent of arresting a child for a lemonade stand. Yes, it's technically right by the rules, but still something that no sane or remotely empathetic person would actually enforce given the context.
Agreed, completely stupid
Such a good comparison
i don't think it's necessarily right by the rules, though.
key word necessarily, cause im sure you could stretch it to be correct if you were a loser judge lol
……or how about handing out speeding tickets at formula 1
Tax is theft.
I hope that miserable judge watches this every now and then and sees how much everyone hates him for this. What a mean-spirited, pedantic, pretentious ruling.
We all know the only reason he disqualified that man was because he was happy and the judge wasn't. Totally miserable and sharing it with another person.
What a teammate. Much people would just be happy that they won.
Huge respect for his teammate standing up for him
Fr.
He still took the entry into the national championships 😂
@@oberpenneraffe The real winner probably urged him to, they're apart of the same team right? *whoosh*
@@oberpenneraffe.. I knew a tennis player who had a promising career ahead of her but just could not reach the top. She talked to a top coach who asked her what she would do if she saw her best friend on the ground, badly injured and begging for help. The woman said that she would stop and help. The coach told her that was the reason that she would never be a top flight player because they understand that the only thing they can think about is personal success. Nothing else mattered, and it appears that the team mate understood that the door of opportunity had opened for him.
@@johnvienta7622dang it’s rough but it makes perfect sense
The swimmer he "interefered with" was done swimming and was congratulating him. What a disgrace to the sport to make a call like that.
Nope, its just the application of the rules.
The swimmer knew the rules.
If he didn't like the rules, he should chose another sport.
Every sport, btw, have the same 'seemingly' bonker rules. EVERY sport!
@@evertvdb000the rule is for interference with another swimmer for crossing the line, the swimmer already finished therefore he didnt intervene with the swimmer. this was literally either a dude with poor eyesight or argueing that crossing affects everyone at the swiming pool
@@bandi642he still crossed the line before the whole race ended so he's guilty
@@itdobelikedattho8112unnecessary
@bandi642 Others hadn't finished the race yet...
Wow this has to be one of the worst decisions ever made in sports history! He was just celebrating with his own teammate who already finished! Ridiculous.
he learned a very important life lesson on that day
there will always be people like that ref who cannot relate to the fundamental reality of these swimmers, but have absolute power over them