We Couldn't Believe This Was Fox Suspension! [Shock Value Ep.1]

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  • @brentstam7751
    @brentstam7751 Рік тому +75

    Man, this series is SO valuable to the consumers!! I mean, I'm sure most of these issues could be fixed with a re-valving, but 99% of people buying shocks aren't going to care to go through that process.

    • @Toastert4co
      @Toastert4co Рік тому +3

      That's a great point, but when companies like Accutune exist, it's a matter of sending one additional email to get them tuned/re-valved properly for little to no additional cost. I bought my fox 2.5 DSC elite series from them, had them tuned, and ready in just over a week. Same for the rear 12" shocks I just ordered from them. I can't imagine a better on/offroad setup than what I have now.

  • @ShockSurplus
    @ShockSurplus Рік тому +58

    holy balls so jealous you guys beat us to the punch on this - awesome series, cant wait to see the whole thing! Great job Ian!

    • @DinoAnthonyFilms
      @DinoAnthonyFilms Рік тому +13

      U guys should do it anyways.

    • @paulthompson661
      @paulthompson661 Рік тому +6

      Do it

    • @paulthompson661
      @paulthompson661 Рік тому +13

      Cheaper ones like 6112 and 5160
      Fox 2.0
      Eibach

    • @gregd4391
      @gregd4391 Рік тому +4

      Do it!
      More comparisons are always good.
      Maybe leave the sway bar connected. Most people who do a little wheeling and use their truck as a daily driver will not remove the sway bar.
      How about adding a towing test?
      Another interesting test would be panic/emergency swerving testing that the gov does...the test to see if trucks and SUVs roll over.

    • @415jokr
      @415jokr Рік тому +2

      You guys should do it with a full size truck. My buddy says his fox 2.5s perform great on his tundra unlike the taco from this vid

  • @gregs190
    @gregs190 Рік тому +3

    After seeing this I’m going with Kings. Foxs’ response about a future redesign shows that they know it’s a problem yet they are still putting them out.

  • @Humboldt710
    @Humboldt710 Рік тому +20

    Thanks for doing this testing guys! I am currently looking for shocks on my Taco, so I'll be watching each episode.

  • @tylerverbitsky8147
    @tylerverbitsky8147 Рік тому +6

    Please continue this testing and adding shock setups to the leader board! Bilstein 6112, Rancho, 2.0 series, Stock, Remote resi vs not for each, etc.

  • @BradenYoungMTB
    @BradenYoungMTB Рік тому +17

    This kind of confirmed my experience with my shocks. I got Fox 2.5 with dsc for my 1st Gen Tacoma, and I’ve found that it rides really stiff, and it feels like the valving isn’t quite right. I’m looking to have it re-valved soon to a much softer tune.

    • @mark.esposito
      @mark.esposito 8 місяців тому +1

      I’m in the same boat with my 1st gen Tacoma. I even went thru the effort of having them tuned with Accutune. How they described the ride in the video is exactly what I feel with mine, especially the on-road experience. I think I would rather have the stock setup than the fox DSCs. Have you done anything different since?

    • @HuxonBrand-s5k
      @HuxonBrand-s5k 8 місяців тому

      LMK how that goes, in the same boat.

  • @right_foot_down-mm8hm
    @right_foot_down-mm8hm Рік тому +3

    I have a stock 2023 4Runner ORP and I have been thinking about the King suspension. These suspension tests are perfect. Keep the videos coming.

  • @timbelding3678
    @timbelding3678 Рік тому +4

    We the off road viewers love this stuff, thank you…. Like any science project there are variables…. The biggest may be the weight of the loaded vehicle and where that weight is located…. And I still like watching this stuff keep it up! And kudos to the sponsor for buying all that gear…. Can I get a bid on the Bils. When your done😊

  • @MattyC007
    @MattyC007 Рік тому +17

    Can’t wait to see the rest and be “shocked” at the results.

  • @SpeedPhreak87
    @SpeedPhreak87 Рік тому +3

    Love that you guys did this series! I can't wait for all of the episodes. You guys hit the nail on the head, so many people swear their suspension is the best when their only comparison is stock, and everyone's perception of what is comfortable is different so having the same truck, with the same people comparing is awesome - keep up the great work!

  • @kotaman232
    @kotaman232 Рік тому +6

    It would be cool to see the same series of videos but with all the shocks tuned properly. Can't wait for the next video!

  • @kwojciech
    @kwojciech Рік тому +8

    I loved Braeden’s facial expression when they hit the whoops! Great vid! I’m currently shopping for a new suspension upgrade for my Taco.

  • @antonio1405
    @antonio1405 Рік тому +1

    I first got the 2.5 DSC on my tundra for the rear noticed less body roll by a lot which was kinda surprising. Then installed the front after a few weeks, it was stuff but lowered the preload and it was nice!! Then after another while, I wanted more out of it and played with the DSC, and I seemed to make it better. After taking out off-road I was super happy how smooth it was fast and slow off-road. I almost got king non adjustables but slapped myself why would I spend so much money and not be adjustable, but sadly they were on back order for months. So I got the FOX. Glad I went adjustable! 🎉

  • @ProneToRome
    @ProneToRome Рік тому +2

    This shock break down and comparison is long overdue. !! Thank you

  • @Ian-ke3gq
    @Ian-ke3gq Рік тому +1

    Just bought my fox coilovers for the Tundra...........Thanks for the test great stuff

  • @justaguy259
    @justaguy259 Рік тому +1

    I have these on my Tacoma. I feel this is spot on. They are good at 3mph and controlled and comfortable on rough dirt roads at 70mph. Everything else sucks. One of mine has had a horrible clank/clunk sound at droop.

  • @PowerTankOfficial
    @PowerTankOfficial Рік тому

    This is incredible quality. It makes me so happy to see that this exists. Thank you for investing the time and money!

  • @SandyCats
    @SandyCats Рік тому +9

    Excellent series. Really appreciate the time and effort your taking to do this… really really hope it 10x your subs cuz it deserves it! Only comment I have is if you could mention which ones are adjustable vs not adjustable…. And if adjustable what setting it was at? Also… front coil weight out of curiosity.
    Again… this is seriously the best and most honest comparisons I’ve seen anyone do for Toyotas.

    • @OverlandOutfitters
      @OverlandOutfitters  Рік тому +5

      Thank you! We hope so too haha!
      We chose to do NO adjustable shocks, I thought we mentioned it in the intro video but maybe we forgot. We wanted to test each company's base tune without any way to muck it up.

  • @devondrayton4006
    @devondrayton4006 Рік тому +2

    I had a similar experience with Fox. I switched from Old Man Emu to Fox 2.5 Factory Series and my initial thought was that they ride great on road but as soon as you hit small bumps they are pretty stiff. The thing I've noticed is that after a long trail Fox made me less fatigued which is what I was hoping for. On trial rides they are amazing compared to the OMEs. They soaked up the larger bumps really well. Just not so well on small bumps. Weird I guess. So Id say my experience was similar.

  • @ericnexplore
    @ericnexplore Рік тому

    Guys thank you for doing that unbiased tests. I will save the series in my 4Runner folder for future references when time comes to upgrade. Greetings from Yellowknife 🇨🇦

  • @saiikoh4893
    @saiikoh4893 Рік тому

    This is by far the most informational Tacoma video I have watched. Can’t wait until the series is over so it can help my purchase

  • @oceangoin79
    @oceangoin79 Рік тому +1

    I absolutely love that you guys are doing this! I've been sharing and looking forward to seeing what the rest of the series brings to the table. I'm a +1 for someone finding a full list of testing on all platforms. 😂😂

  • @ChronicMasterHater
    @ChronicMasterHater Рік тому +3

    I wonder how much of it really comes down to valving? I have the same coil overs in front and the 12 inch smoothie in the rear and had it valved for my set up at accutune. I take it to anza and ocotillo all the time and I love the way it rides. Also I DID noticed a decent amount of body roll without the sway bar lol, but still rides better without it.

    • @OverlandOutfitters
      @OverlandOutfitters  Рік тому +1

      Basically what we are testing almost completely comes down to valving. Most people won't be custom valving their suspension, so this is out of the box. We can tune suspension for anybody in either of our shops though!

    • @Toastert4co
      @Toastert4co Рік тому +1

      that's funny. I've got a similar setup from Accutune with the Fox 2.5 DSCs up front and soon to be Archive relocation and 12 inch rear on my 14' Tacoma. Even with just the front being upgraded, it handles ocotillo/anza incredibly well. Definitely stiffer than stock, but it's well worth it when you feel how much support you get when things get rowdy. Nice to have a local shop that specializes in shock tuning...

  • @kevinmang7802
    @kevinmang7802 Рік тому +1

    Stoked for this series! Looking to upgrade to 2.5s from my OME’s

  • @zgmurph
    @zgmurph Рік тому +2

    This was very interesting, I am wondering if there was too much spring rate on the shocks. My king 2.5’s were worse offroad then my stock trd sport suspension until I put bigger 34 inch tires and it handled much better.

  • @AldenPez
    @AldenPez Рік тому

    Super pumped for this series. I have 5100’s on my tundra and they are ok but im already researching my next upgrade

  • @arboatrentals
    @arboatrentals 8 місяців тому

    Wow I ordered the 2.5 fox for my ram 1500. It’s a heavier truck but I’m nervous now. 😅. I was between the fox and the kings but called king and they had horrible customer service; I called fox and they took their time on answering all my questions and gave me great advice and was super nice guy. went for the fox because of him.

    • @OverlandOutfitters
      @OverlandOutfitters  8 місяців тому +1

      customer service is a big part of the decision making process for sure! I've typically had the opposite experience as a shop, which is why we wanted to do these tests unbiased!

  • @J_Christiansen
    @J_Christiansen Рік тому +1

    Great content guys! Nice to see a video that’s not sponsored by the brand your trying to sell. looking forward to see which one is the best!

  • @perchowski3021
    @perchowski3021 Рік тому

    Been waiting for a video like this! Great idea guys! Glad someone is actually giving some feedback on how the ride quality is in the truck with the suspension installed.

  • @joshp3239
    @joshp3239 Рік тому

    I agree and I am a fox fan boy. But without adjusters they aren’t great. Custom valving and adjusters on top of that help so much. Oddly I find that their 2.0 series to be amazing, but the standard 2.5 to be too stiff. I believe that is because they pair it with a 600 pound spring and valve it as if you will be consistently jumping your truck, hence why I won’t buy them without adjusters and revalved to my driving style and application. I’ve also found that when you wear them in a bit the ride improves.

  • @rosesbite
    @rosesbite 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for doing this review 🤙 hit the nail on the head with doing a multiple item review. Thank you❤

  • @cacog35
    @cacog35 Рік тому +2

    I’m pumped for this series.

  • @pittwerx
    @pittwerx Рік тому

    You should do a video where you re-valve each of them and then retest!
    I wonder if they assume people will add weight to their trucks and valve them accordingly. Tuning them would level the playing field and isn’t an unreasonable amount of money for as expensive as these shocks are!

  • @kalebaiken3477
    @kalebaiken3477 Рік тому

    So stoked for this series. Would have been interesting to throw some 6112 in there to see how they perform compared to the bigger bodied brothers for the price, especially after hearing how bad these fox's were.

  • @frankvielma4102
    @frankvielma4102 Рік тому +1

    A bilstein 6112 comparison with fox and others would be awesome as well

  • @JeffButcherDP
    @JeffButcherDP Рік тому +1

    Dudes.. so stoked for this series!

  • @0naquest
    @0naquest Рік тому

    This series is such a fresh approach. Thanks for putting it together. I'm looking forward to the future episodes.

  • @604Voodoo
    @604Voodoo Рік тому +3

    This is gonna be a goooood series 🤘

  • @HD46409
    @HD46409 Рік тому +2

    This is going to be an awesome series. Would you guys add the IronMan FoamCell Pro suspension to the mix?

    • @jadenrea
      @jadenrea Рік тому

      that kit is not comparable with any of these lol

  • @beastman101
    @beastman101 Рік тому

    Stuff like this is critical like you addressed in the video, forum comments are only a small snapshot into overall performance. I would have assumed Fox would have been the most dialed!

  • @bquade70
    @bquade70 Рік тому +2

    Great series👍😉
    Lake Havasu 🌞 Az

  • @bri7929
    @bri7929 Рік тому +1

    Can you plaese make a video explaining and comparing valving. Amount of zones,Low,mid,high speed... on/off road..... tow/payloads..... highway/city cornering swaying...... abc 123 thank for informative videos.
    Ps possibly throw in spring type combo/ AIR SPRING AND SHOCK USAGE!!!!! VERY OPEN MARKET

  • @Absolute_Unit135
    @Absolute_Unit135 Рік тому +1

    I would totally watch more shock comparisons on different vehicle platforms 10:27

  • @mahalomydude
    @mahalomydude Рік тому

    Congrats on ep 1! 🎉

  • @adamscottmartin
    @adamscottmartin Рік тому +1

    I have Fox 2.5's on my 2nd gen Tacoma. At first they were terrible, but now that they are "broken in" I can't imagine anything riding or performing better. This isn't to take anything away from any other manufacturer, just sharing real-life data that it seems like they seemed to take a while to feel right. It could also be that the springs take longer to settle which leads you to think it's the shocks. I still don't know because I'm not a shock vendor or a bigtime UA-camr to test them all. And forgive if I missed the part of the video talking about DSC adjusters but it looks like your Fox's dont have adjusters while the Elkas and Icons do. Not a perfect 1:1 comparison there, could be that your Fox's just have a bad valving setup. Cheers.

    • @OverlandOutfitters
      @OverlandOutfitters  Рік тому +1

      We didn't test any suspension with adjusters to keep it fair

  • @speedegg6170
    @speedegg6170 Рік тому +1

    WHAT! No way. I am looking at the Fox 2.5 Factory…but I am going to reconsider. What Fox shocks were you NVM. Gonna check the previous video for the model. When is the next video? What about the other shocks?!

  • @DinoAnthonyFilms
    @DinoAnthonyFilms Рік тому

    Man! I’m in the market. I was so close to getting this set. Thank you!

  • @noahsanchez8910
    @noahsanchez8910 Рік тому

    I’m loving this channel, just found it a few days ago. Keep it up!

  • @AndrewKumler
    @AndrewKumler Рік тому +1

    Love this series. Looking forward to the next one.

  • @chrismumford7295
    @chrismumford7295 Рік тому

    Absolutely loving this! Keep it going, you guys work great together. Pulling out the true data in its purists form. Testing and breaking through pre conceived notions. 🙌🏼💯

  • @brianc1655
    @brianc1655 Рік тому

    Great video! Looking forward to the rest of them.
    Any plans to put dobinson in the mix in a future video/series? It’d be cool to see the MRR shock and how much real world adjustment you can actually get out of the compression and rebound adjusters. But I maybe that shock line doesn’t make sense for this comparison. So the IMS shock instead?

  • @BountyHunterNK
    @BountyHunterNK Рік тому

    Great episode! Looking forward to the rest of the series!

  • @erikschutzman2402
    @erikschutzman2402 Рік тому

    This is really interesting. Blind testing is awesome for these shocks

  • @sleeks9939
    @sleeks9939 Рік тому

    Thanks for the honesty! The reaction at the end tho😂😂

  • @omerkhan571
    @omerkhan571 Рік тому

    Appreciate the real world testing ! New subscriber from Lahore, Pakistan

  • @nickdpraha
    @nickdpraha Рік тому

    Would be very interested to see you guys review Ironman 4x4 suspension and see what kind of opinion you have towards them

  • @Catholic_warrior_of_Christ
    @Catholic_warrior_of_Christ Рік тому

    Wow and I just ordered fox coil overs can you test the dial settings

  • @Shogunslossy
    @Shogunslossy Рік тому

    I use kings because kings are the king hahaha but fox came out with a set of shocks that’s tuned for the Tacoma. Give those a try I hear they are much better then the performance series.

  • @krhunt1014
    @krhunt1014 Рік тому

    Awesome, keep testing.

  • @rosesbite
    @rosesbite 11 місяців тому

    High mileage (aka 60 mile driving) driving test along with everything you did would be a good review

  • @NorthEastDirt
    @NorthEastDirt Рік тому +1

    Always, ALWAYS, get your 2.5s tune. Out the box tuning is trash. Accutune offroad does amazing work.

  • @bradbest14
    @bradbest14 Рік тому

    Only 2 minutes in and the only issue I have with this is my coils broke in another a few thousand miles and the ride got much better.

  • @jordanbrookes5826
    @jordanbrookes5826 Рік тому +1

    Great content and editing!

  • @justinvanbibber6234
    @justinvanbibber6234 Рік тому +1

    This one surprised me!

  • @SBYOTA4X4
    @SBYOTA4X4 Рік тому

    Would of been cool if you guys tested the rough country vertex set up since they're a cheap set up, compared to fox,kings

  • @4x4hoth
    @4x4hoth Рік тому

    Looking forward to the final results

  • @DoubleClutchProductions
    @DoubleClutchProductions Рік тому

    No mention of spring rates?

  • @breesej
    @breesej 7 місяців тому

    It seems that the spring rate was too high based on how fast the suspension was rebounding (air time over the whoops), and the compression didn't look like full stroke on some of the footage. Softer springs could make a huge difference in plushness. What was the sag percentage on this suspension setup?

  • @paulthompson661
    @paulthompson661 11 місяців тому

    Ready to see if the eibach2r system is the best 2.0 you can buy?

  • @HelplmAlive
    @HelplmAlive Рік тому +1

    This is a great series!

  • @erice4611
    @erice4611 Рік тому

    The all-pro house brand coilovers ride amazing in my 01 Tacoma even better then my Kings.

  • @philiptaylor2567
    @philiptaylor2567 9 місяців тому

    Did you guys ever get any sort of response from fox after this review? Not that you asked them for one. But im just wondering if, as a company known for quality performace suspension, they took this into account and made any changes to the valving.

  • @rogieboy3162
    @rogieboy3162 Рік тому +1

    This is great guys!

  • @artofwar1776
    @artofwar1776 Рік тому

    Dude! Looking forward to the next episode.

  • @eotmanoftheyear
    @eotmanoftheyear Рік тому +1

    Literally had these shocks in my cart with the Cognito arm. This video has DETERRED me from making the purchase.
    Thank you 🙏🏽

  • @allentisthammer4763
    @allentisthammer4763 Рік тому

    Would it of made any difference with the performance if the truck was carrying more weight (500lbs)? Such as a decked drawer system along with a roof top tent, prinsu rack, etc?

  • @alandowney4458
    @alandowney4458 Рік тому

    ditto to the comments I can't wait for the other reviews as I'm looking to upgrade my current suspension. Thanks from south of the Canadian border

  • @4xhoser
    @4xhoser Рік тому

    Thank you for doing this right with no bias 🤘🇨🇦

  • @Simpify_VR
    @Simpify_VR Рік тому

    hello guys,
    what about if do repeat the test again (blind) and try to figure which suspension is on the vehicle, we want to see if you can get them wright.

  • @mdgeist472
    @mdgeist472 Рік тому

    As others have said, maybe the shock needs to be broken in. Could you do that with shock dyno?

  • @415jokr
    @415jokr Рік тому

    I wouldve loved to see you guys run these through barstow main🤣🤣

  • @abdullah-w5x8b
    @abdullah-w5x8b Рік тому

    Is this fox suspension the same thing as the ones that come on a TRD PRO?

  • @nikbounthavilay1313
    @nikbounthavilay1313 Рік тому

    Awesome!!! Can’t wait to see more.

  • @norkisserrano
    @norkisserrano Рік тому

    Does this Fox shocks have the DSC adjuster? Because you can adjust the compression and rebound to really dial them.

  • @DrewDayToday
    @DrewDayToday Рік тому

    lol man these videos are awesome love the honesty my dudes!!!

  • @Ramiel77
    @Ramiel77 Рік тому

    I have these very same shocks in my 22 4Runner (with the adjustable valves). And yes, your impressions are correct lol
    I came from Bilstein 6112 front and 5100 rears. And compared to those, the FOX are bouncier, and bottom out less. But they do feel about as harsh over the small stuff and over broken pavement. They do corner great, after I got my suspension dialed in (new track bar, link arms, etc). But are they worth 4x more than the $1,000 Bilstein set I had before? NOPE. And I honest to god could NOT recommend it to some one, unless they are ok with a tiny level of improvement on their shocks and they have money to throw away. Not to mentioned i had issues with the valves being stuck out of the box, and I had to sent them in for warranty repairs right away to get that fixed. If I had to do it all over again, I would go with something cheaper, more comfortable for long Overland trips and spend the rest of the money on other suspension parts like control arms, bump stops, link arms, etc.
    But they do look cool, so I guess that's that

    • @camronbay1
      @camronbay1 Рік тому

      Damn that sucks to hear I have a TRD Off road 22 and I’m looking for better shocks as I carry quite a bit of camping gear the fox shocks seems like for the price they would perform better.

    • @camronbay1
      @camronbay1 Рік тому

      @@Ramiel77 Thanks for the reply I don’t know what shocks I want now but I need to figure something out I have a fridge chainsaw water and I’m hitting the bump stops quite a bit I think adding a leaf spring would be good.

  • @jaredchilds8714
    @jaredchilds8714 9 місяців тому

    I subscribed just because of this video. Thanks.

  • @krisagustin1666
    @krisagustin1666 Рік тому

    I hope you guys do Dobinsons

  • @sorryociffer
    @sorryociffer Рік тому

    He was “SHOCKED”…. 😆

  • @roadrunneradventuresmx3053
    @roadrunneradventuresmx3053 Рік тому +1

    I’ll let you use my fj cruiser if you wanna compare shocks on that one

  • @trd_addict77
    @trd_addict77 Рік тому

    What size of tires you got on that truck?

  • @NWPURSUIT
    @NWPURSUIT Рік тому

    Are all the spring rates between all the coilovers the same as well? That way it's a true apples to apples comparison. ALSO would love to see the new fox performance elite series shocks tested against these. Thanks guys great info!

    • @OverlandOutfitters
      @OverlandOutfitters  Рік тому +1

      All used 600# coils

    • @NWPURSUIT
      @NWPURSUIT Рік тому

      @Overland Outfitters I've been running resi icons for years on my tacoma and wanted to make the switch to fox but after seeing this idk anymore! I'm very curious how the new fox performance elite shocks would compare

  • @spencerwarholik2904
    @spencerwarholik2904 Рік тому

    Great video I just hope you didn’t find out they were fox till after all the shocks were tested. As that would narrow down what it could be giving it a biased opinion. But I look forward to the rest of the videos these will become some of the most popular shock videos on UA-cam im sure!

    • @OverlandOutfitters
      @OverlandOutfitters  Рік тому

      Nope, all the shocks were revealed after all testing had been done

  • @sherk05
    @sherk05 Рік тому

    What is the setting front and rear?thanks

  • @WheelsAndHelmets
    @WheelsAndHelmets 6 місяців тому

    Did you guys adjust the compression etc on the fox and try again?

    • @OverlandOutfitters
      @OverlandOutfitters  6 місяців тому +1

      The shocks we tested had no adjusters to keep it fair. However, we added bleed to the pistons for the next Shock Value series coming out soon!!! Definitely get subscribed if you aren't already!

    • @WheelsAndHelmets
      @WheelsAndHelmets 6 місяців тому

      @OverlandOutfitters I saw on the conclusion video where you answered this question. I tried looking for my comment to delete it but forgot where i posted it haha thank you for getting back to me though!

  • @Simpify_VR
    @Simpify_VR Рік тому

    I bought fox shocks only because they offer 2.0 shock with the ability to install different lengths of springs.

  • @ahmedalothman4998
    @ahmedalothman4998 Рік тому

    I hoped that you didn't see the shocks until you finish the series.

  • @coastaltransplant
    @coastaltransplant Рік тому

    shit i just ordered a fox performance elite set up... are they going to suck?

  • @omnickron3669
    @omnickron3669 Місяць тому

    Why not tune them right and try again? Or just start with them tuned.

  • @stevegarcia3229
    @stevegarcia3229 Рік тому +1

    Locked off-road shocks ride super sweet 🎉