Hows does it drive compared to the twins does it sound better. I was thinking of doing , walnut blast,fbo on e85 professional tune on the stockers until they're about gone b4 going single doc rac set up. How are the front o2 sensors holding on the single heard they dont last much with singles.
Seems expensive but still cheap if your considering your getting a fast 500-600+ Hp BMW that can beat most muscle and some supercars for under $30k after all is done.
Just what I was about to comment. To have any other car drive as well and have 500-600 or even more WHP it's far more money compared to the N54 335i or 135i.
So many people talking trash! 😅😅😅 firstly, you mod you car to personalise it, and to design the car to how you enjoy. Sure 50k may get a newer car or a used m3/m5. But then, you have a car that is nowhere near as fast as this car, is not personalised to the owners taste, and will not provide anywhere near the smiles per miles. Plus 50k over 4 years is completley different to having that upfront before he could make that inital purchase. And it's a repeating cycle. Take the m3/m5 and do the same thing, okay your now 100k in. Why not buy (insert car here). Then again and again. People buy the car they can afford and want, and modifications is fun for then. It's not all just about resale value jeez! Good work man, love your channel and keep it up! Really good to see this content for the 135i/335i!
Thanks man! I'm glad someone understands where I'm coming from, lol. I'm happy with the choices I've made and the car is constantly evolving. Can't wait to see where I'm at in another 5 years! I appreciate your support.
@@jake_spence exactly mate! Your car will constantly evolve, and thats what makes it worth it. Everything you do to it, is a journey, and an experience, and you enjoy the car more as it become more of a reflection of what you want, rather then just another stock car off a showroom floor. Looking to bite the bullet on a 335i, and originally thought the brand may not be diy friendly, but your videos change that man and have encouraged me to learn about that Bimmer life 👍🤙
Much love man thanks for the info. Most ppl in the comments are saying your stupid and hating but they miss that u said over 4 years and u own this car plus u take your car to the track. This isn't bad it actually good and now your making money off this car doing videos and and more. Once again much love and if it makes u happy do it it's your life bot theirs. God bless
I just did the same set up. GEN2 6266doc Race. The whole enchilada, index 12s motor mounts, all the gaskets. Everything diy’d, in the tuning phase now with Justin Hubanek. Probably at $8k now. But I came from rattling stock turbos
Nice! This setup is so much fun, plus it looks and sounds cool. As you know, it's totally worth it. Would love to see what kind of numbers you end up making.
Glad I came across this. Playing around with idea but I have the 07 AT which can’t be flashed. Not sure how well that would hold up. Either way, I’m impressed by the fact that you literally listed the links to everything you might need. You da real mvp. Thanks man and congrats on a sweet freaking build
Thanks man! Glad you think it's helpful, that was the goal. I think you'd still be okay with the 07 AT, just not a really high power levels. Good luck with your build!
Hey, you know a ton about the N54 platform. Did you learn from a specific source, or just tons of time doing DIY stuff on the cars? I want to pick up a 335i after I graduate college, but I really want to learn the ins and outs, so I can be comfortable and knowledgeable with the platform. Just found your channel a few days ago, and have loved all the content, keep up the great work!
Just read the forums, watched UA-cam videos and started tearing into the car myself. Learned a lot over the last four years, there's tons of information out there for these cars!
You said you’re over 50K for four years of ownership?? Don’t think that’s crazy at ALL!! That’s about the starting price of a used M3/M4 and then go from there, plus you are above those power levels. 50 grand over that time for a 135i is not bad at all. TRUST me!! Nice car too.
Thanks! I agree, and that doesn't include re-selling all upgraded aftermarket parts that I removed when I went single turbo, or the few sets of wheels I bought and didn't keep.
Dope video jake that’s a lot of money almost could have done this with a used Porsche at this point me personally I’m doing a twin turbo upgrade down the road all I want is 500hp this 7-800hp costs large as we can all see and it’s then a fun car not a daily driver reliability goes way down at that hp rate . Great video thanks for passing on costs . Make more videos for the n54 gang cheers !
Thanks man! Yeah, there are ton of things you can buy in this price range. But to get one of these cars bone stock (cheap) and sink $15k into it for 700+whp, I don't think there are many other cars that can compete for the value. Also, I wouldn't hesitate to daily drive this car. You wouldn't even know it's this powerful until you put the hammer down.
Jake Spence I was wondering all the list was read out without any mods too the transmission what did you do to upgrade tranny or is the Bmw manual tranny capable of 700 plus hp ?
DkKristie I bought a 2007 335i with 100,000 miles for about 7 grand and I’ve put in dci, a Cobb, and Cobb catless downpipes and a FMIC 7 inch inter cooler and make about 410 to the wheel. My friend also got a guy to build a 3 inch straight pipe titanium exhaust for 200 bucks. Cost me total of 9,000ish and it toasts most cars in my town
Jake, you a real man. Thanks a lot. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. I respect you for all your efforts in build this CarPorn. Links below allow to find a set point in our projects with the N54. Greetings from 🇨🇴.
Thanks Michael! I'm happy to help fellow BMW enthusiasts! I figure it's the least I can do now that I've gone through this whole build with first-hand experience.
Thanks for making this, took short break from working on my to contemplate going single turbo, and now I'm just counting my blessings. I bought my car heavily modded and just have to clean up and re do everything that was done. I would have bought everything too good see the numbers ran through
@@jake_spence it was not done well, but at least the parts are decent, single turbo would simplify the car a lot, but it's not that bad getting the engine exposed from underneath
How can I tell if I have a leaky injector besides the cold start misfire I went a while with no light then it turned on for a second and turned off had a cylinder 3 and 6 code so I did coils and plugs and realized my plugs were trashed burnt at the tips well for those 2 cylinders someone help
So are you still pushing 700+ hp through the stock 6 speed manual with just flywheel+clutch upgrade? Do you have to limit boost in any of the gears? What about the rear diff, half shafts, driveshafts? Are they able to take the power?
Yup. With the drag radial tires, I don't have to limit boost in any gear. Stock rear diff, axles, driveshaft, etc. If you care about dig racing, I'd suggest getting an LSD and upgraded axles, but you don't NEED them.
@@jake_spence you don't happen to know what the limit is for the stock 6-sp Manual or Automatic do you? I got a 2011 Mustang GT, they say stock for the clutch is like 550ft-lbs, 700ft-lbs for the Manual Tranny, and 800ft-lbs for the Automatic.
xXBurntBaconXx i am running jb4 and mhd backend 21psi with e60 mix, never done a dyno but the stock clutch is holding up. From what ive seen auto trans limit is around 650whp if you keep the torque under 600.
What do the cheaper single turbos go for? The wast gate rattle is pretty simple to replace the bushing. Removing the turbo to do it on the other hand. LOL
@@jake_spence That kit isn't to bad. It's under 4k so that's a plus lol. I may stick with a twin set up for now until I end up with 3k I don't need. Lol. Step one is getting a 335i first.
Thanks a lot Jake for sharing this information , i want to build drift car 135i or 335i with N54 engine , from beginning i would get good suspension , way bar ,i would do simple modifications like short shifter, add hydraulic hand brake , remove exhaust mulfer , downpipe, cahrgepipe, and i will try different tuning , i think stage 1 would be enough for beginning and will test a lot things .
Funny I'm watching this now, this was 5 days after my son was born. We share the same birthday. Anyway, I drove him home through that vary storm when it was in Minnesota. Haha small world.
Awesome video, I just subscribed great channel you got. U made me make a decision with with video lol I was wondering when u pulled the N54 from the junkyard and did everything. You touch the internals at all?
Noticed you had over 100xxx miles on the car. Would you say it's still worth it to purchase an n54 motor 135i or 335i with higher mileage even if a single turbo build is not in the future for it? Or would searching for a low mileage be worth the extra cash on top? Thanks!
I'm a firm believer that condition is more important than mileage. Check under the oil cap and see if there is sludge, buildup or discoloration. Do a compression/leakdown test. If everything looks good, I'd feel comfortable about it!
just checked out the docrace kit, really nice! do you know by any chance if it fits RHD? cause i heard lots of "the steering column is right in the way...RHD is a PITA" would be awesome if the kit fits also RHD
And I spend about £2,500 tuning my M140i and it made 455bhp/634nm just with a Wagner 200 cell cat, ITG air filter, remap, and XHP3 gearbox software. Another £700 would get a an upgraded high pressure fuel pump which would get me close to 500bhp.
Does the single turbo mod also fit a 335i? Coupe Model I really want that model n54 but I was thinking with all I’m going to spend on the 335i should I just go ahead and buy an m3?? Or just stay with the 335i and build it up that’s what’s really twisting my mind I would like some advice idk what todo tbh.
Santos Tuner its been 4 months since you posted this, so maybe you have already made your decision, but if your considering e92 m3, you will be surprised at how slow it is(relative to even a stock turbo fbo 335) and how little potential it has for increased power. If your looking for a handling machine, the m3 is the better choice, however theres not much you can do in terms of big power. Also from my experience the m3 motors have a higher chance of blowing throughout wear and tear, especially if you tune them and drive aggressively. The n54 is the go to for big power but also has its share of problems.
This is insane. All you need to have is a relatively cheap FBO 500hp stock turbos N54 6MT with a OS Giken LSD to have all the fun and do drifting, trackdays and some Nordschleife. Some glory run on the dyno is not worth all that money!
@@jake_spence Yeah modding is fun I get it, but 50k dollars in total is a lot of cash and you can buy a lot for that money... :D I overtake GT3's on the Nurburgring in my 335i and I'm only risking 15k worth of money and drift circles around an E92 M3 because I have a better LSD... It all depends what your goals are I guess.
What have you done in terms of suspension? Do you know what the cause of the low compression was on your previous engine? From what friends have told me running bigger twins, the higher torque puts a lot of stress on the engine. Also If you ran the single turbo setup before PI, what were your numbers and how was the lag with a 6266 in comparison to stock fbo 21psi?
I just have Eibach Pro-Kit springs for suspension. And I don't know what happened to my old engine, I never opened it up. Torque is definitely harder on the internals than horsepower is. I have never run the single turbo setup without PI. The lag is definitely noticeable, but it pulls much harder up top. At 11psi, I made 450whp on the single turbo setup.
@@jake_spence My turbos are on their way out, smoking and all, but id like to improve the handling and wheel hop before rushing into PI 6266. However i haven't spent much time researching suspension modifications yet, maybe you have. I see a lot of people going with better springs and shocks instead of coilovers, why is that? I'm considering doing m3 arm kit from ECS, mfactory or wavetrack LSD, stiffer subframe, diff bushings, trans mounts, engine mounts, and BC coilovers. I honestly don't know much about coilovers, spring rates, and all of that and haven't had the time to look into it. Would you recommend something different? BTW thanks for the quick reply, great videos and an awesome 135!
Currently just a BMS oil catch can that attached to the flapper valve. Then I'm just running a hose down the transmission tunnel and venting to air for the outlet, instead of routing it to the turbo intake filter. I also have an RB PCV valve.
That's not so bad for what you have. Priceless car you got there. People say you can't buy happiness ..... or can you. I think if you gave everybody in the world this car there would be 75% less suicides.
Hey dude love your precise and informative videos. I live in Panamá and am thinking about doing your 135i set up, problem is I only have access to 91 octane fuel. My goal is a street driven 10 sec 1/4 mile car. What's the max power level I can expect on 91 octane. And is mid 10s possible. I plan to do drastic weight savings, back seat delete light weight race seats exc. Thank you. Any advice would be highly appreciated.
10 sec will be almost impossible on 91 octane. You will need meth and a lot of weight reduction. I'm not 100% sure how much power you can safely make on 91 octane because I've always had access to E85.
@@jake_spence thanx a million, I really liked the setup but like I said no access to E85, virtually eliminates me using the N54. Well back to the venerable svt cobra.
modified td04 turbos are another option too, do a ebay search For BMW 335i E90 E91 E92 E93 135i E82 E88 3.0L 650HP Billet 6+6 16T Turbocharger (Fits: BMW [E92]) Brand new on ebay
Holy poop man you kind of just scared me out of getting a 335i. Lol. What do you think? I'm stuck between either a Mini r53 or n54 car. Mini I found for 4k. 335i e92 for 8k.
Yes, I've driven a modded R53 Cooper S many times, cool little car. I've also driven the newer ones. They are fun for autocross and spirited driving, but lack power for me.
I had a 2003 540i M-sport manual 4.4L aluminum V8, 6 speed, and wow was it an expensive car to maintain. That was one of the best driving cars I had the pleasure of driving though it was down a bit on power (300hp). Found out it needed the timing chain system completely rebuilt and at 80,000 miles no less (rebuild $5k). I sold it on craigslist for half of what I poured in to the car over 2 years (around $30k with purchase of car) Yikes, so I wanted more power and upgrades for it were crazy (stroker kit to 4.8L / 450-500HP $30k + fuel management ect, ect) Shortly after I bought a 2nd generation CTS-V that is great on power, takes the abuse of being driven hard and is worlds cheaper to maintain. Will not own another BMW out of factory warranty again, but they sure are nice to look at and drive when they are not broken.
Those are awesome cars. I've always wanted an E39 540i or M5. Allllllllmost bought a 540i with 210k a few weeks ago but passed on it. Can be maintenance hogs, but totally worth it (most of the time, lol).
Thanks! N54, but I'm a little bias. It can handle so much power, as you can see in my latest dyno video. It's a great platform once you're up to date on maintenance.
Damn bro. I have owned my 08 135i 6spd .for almost a year i paid $13k with 74k miles. I have dumped almost $20k into it. Waiting for my spec stage 3+ clutch. Then its off to get it tuned. I will have about $35k into it when its all said and done. Its an expensive hobby. Have you taken your car to dyno yet?
Sounds like you got a pretty good deal! Gotta love these cars. I'm waiting for the roads to dry up so I can make a few adjustments to the car. Then it'll be on the dyno sometime in May! You'll have to stay tuned for the numbers.
Jake Spence sweet man rite on. Im in northern California we dont have snow here. Same here in may i will get mine dyno tuned cant wait. Your car looks awesome congrats on your build.
Jesus man , what do you do for work? ... I'm asking seriously... I'm in love w these cars . I've only ever " built" first generation small block chevys. I love tuners tho... I've never had a bmw.... I've had 2 tuned vr6s n two 1.8ts .. had a c6 a6 4.2... that last one was a terrible terrible mistake.... but I've got a serious jonesin to actually build something around 550 600hp and have it be reliable if I'm not beating the shit out of it... some life coaching would be so greatly appreciated.
I do marketing, web development, e-commerce, etc. I don't make as much as it might seem, but I'd like to think I'm smart with my money. You'll love how easy it is to make power on this platform if you decide to go down this path!
Jake Spence I'm in love w it. Straight 6 w turbos???? 👀... I had no idea about these cars till just recently. First looking at em and taking note that ppl were putting singles on em after looking at a few videos, then doing research... forged bottoms, n all of the potential w just a few mods and a tune... yeah I fell in love hard.
Soooo excited for the new Doc Race manifold, can't wait to see how you like it! It's too bad Haltech doesn't make a full plug-n-play standalone for the n54.
I make ~420whp with jb4/mhd +fuel it stage 2. on pump E85. Everything else is stock.. I'd start there, but logging is important, keep an eye on what your n54 is doing!
I still have the stock diff, but plan on getting an LSD in the near future. And I just used OE replacement engine mounts, you can get the same pair here: amzn.to/2HcNIi4
That's pretty neat.
You're pretty neat.
You should do water/meth on your 135! Make a video on the kit and another on installation?? 😁
You know what I think I can live with stock turbos 😂
Lol! I didn't want the wastegate rattle anymore, and I was paranoid that mine were going to die after abusing them at 21+psi until 115k miles.
Pure turbos if u arent ready for single turbo cost 😅 thats what i ended up doing, but on3performance makes a 2500 single turbo kit. 2 weeks lead time
@Sami Sosa link to more info this?
Hows does it drive compared to the twins does it sound better. I was thinking of doing , walnut blast,fbo on e85 professional tune on the stockers until they're about gone b4 going single doc rac set up. How are the front o2 sensors holding on the single heard they dont last much with singles.
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W intro , W video, W description.. Thank you sir 🫡
that shopping list cost more than my 335i
bmw community n54 specifically needed this video. great video. love the car and the channel
Happy to help! Thanks for the support!
Jake Spence anytime bud
Seems expensive but still cheap if your considering your getting a fast 500-600+ Hp BMW that can beat most muscle and some supercars for under $30k after all is done.
Dave Johnson agreed
500-600 WHP*
Agreed, I'm sold
Just what I was about to comment. To have any other car drive as well and have 500-600 or even more WHP it's far more money compared to the N54 335i or 135i.
So many people talking trash! 😅😅😅 firstly, you mod you car to personalise it, and to design the car to how you enjoy. Sure 50k may get a newer car or a used m3/m5. But then, you have a car that is nowhere near as fast as this car, is not personalised to the owners taste, and will not provide anywhere near the smiles per miles. Plus 50k over 4 years is completley different to having that upfront before he could make that inital purchase. And it's a repeating cycle. Take the m3/m5 and do the same thing, okay your now 100k in. Why not buy (insert car here). Then again and again. People buy the car they can afford and want, and modifications is fun for then. It's not all just about resale value jeez!
Good work man, love your channel and keep it up! Really good to see this content for the 135i/335i!
Thanks man! I'm glad someone understands where I'm coming from, lol. I'm happy with the choices I've made and the car is constantly evolving. Can't wait to see where I'm at in another 5 years! I appreciate your support.
@@jake_spence exactly mate! Your car will constantly evolve, and thats what makes it worth it. Everything you do to it, is a journey, and an experience, and you enjoy the car more as it become more of a reflection of what you want, rather then just another stock car off a showroom floor.
Looking to bite the bullet on a 335i, and originally thought the brand may not be diy friendly, but your videos change that man and have encouraged me to learn about that Bimmer life 👍🤙
Much love man thanks for the info. Most ppl in the comments are saying your stupid and hating but they miss that u said over 4 years and u own this car plus u take your car to the track. This isn't bad it actually good and now your making money off this car doing videos and and more. Once again much love and if it makes u happy do it it's your life bot theirs. God bless
I appreciate this comment! Thank you. I'm glad you understand and enjoy the content!
I have a automatic and stock exhaust and didnt have to buy a motor (yet) and im at $14K. I went with the self labor route. Sweet build man!
Great breakdown Jake! The links down below are super helpful as well! I need to win the lottery, holy total!!
Happy to help man! I'm sure we could both benefit from winning the lottery, lol.
I just did the same set up. GEN2 6266doc Race. The whole enchilada, index 12s motor mounts, all the gaskets. Everything diy’d, in the tuning phase now with Justin Hubanek. Probably at $8k now. But I came from rattling stock turbos
Nice! This setup is so much fun, plus it looks and sounds cool. As you know, it's totally worth it. Would love to see what kind of numbers you end up making.
Glad I came across this. Playing around with idea but I have the 07 AT which can’t be flashed. Not sure how well that would hold up. Either way, I’m impressed by the fact that you literally listed the links to everything you might need. You da real mvp. Thanks man and congrats on a sweet freaking build
Thanks man! Glad you think it's helpful, that was the goal. I think you'd still be okay with the 07 AT, just not a really high power levels. Good luck with your build!
Enjoy it man you've definitely earned it ...lots of headaches I know!
Thanks man! Still waiting for the roads to dry up so I can tweak a few things... then it's time for 700HP!
Hey, you know a ton about the N54 platform. Did you learn from a specific source, or just tons of time doing DIY stuff on the cars? I want to pick up a 335i after I graduate college, but I really want to learn the ins and outs, so I can be comfortable and knowledgeable with the platform. Just found your channel a few days ago, and have loved all the content, keep up the great work!
Just read the forums, watched UA-cam videos and started tearing into the car myself. Learned a lot over the last four years, there's tons of information out there for these cars!
You said you’re over 50K for four years of ownership?? Don’t think that’s crazy at ALL!! That’s about the starting price of a used M3/M4 and then go from there, plus you are above those power levels. 50 grand over that time for a 135i is not bad at all. TRUST me!! Nice car too.
Thanks! I agree, and that doesn't include re-selling all upgraded aftermarket parts that I removed when I went single turbo, or the few sets of wheels I bought and didn't keep.
Dope video jake that’s a lot of money almost could have done this with a used Porsche at this point me personally I’m doing a twin turbo upgrade down the road all I want is 500hp this 7-800hp costs large as we can all see and it’s then a fun car not a daily driver reliability goes way down at that hp rate . Great video thanks for passing on costs . Make more videos for the n54 gang cheers !
Thanks man! Yeah, there are ton of things you can buy in this price range. But to get one of these cars bone stock (cheap) and sink $15k into it for 700+whp, I don't think there are many other cars that can compete for the value. Also, I wouldn't hesitate to daily drive this car. You wouldn't even know it's this powerful until you put the hammer down.
Jake Spence I was wondering all the list was read out without any mods too the transmission what did you do to upgrade tranny or is the Bmw manual tranny capable of 700 plus hp ?
Bimmer 335 was discussed in the video
Awesome video as E90 335i this has always been on my mind and wonder what the cost would be nice work and break down 👌🏻
Thanks man! I hope it's helpful for those of you who are thinking about it!
DkKristie I bought a 2007 335i with 100,000 miles for about 7 grand and I’ve put in dci, a Cobb, and Cobb catless downpipes and a FMIC 7 inch inter cooler and make about 410 to the wheel. My friend also got a guy to build a 3 inch straight pipe titanium exhaust for 200 bucks. Cost me total of 9,000ish and it toasts most cars in my town
Jake, you a real man. Thanks a lot. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. I respect you for all your efforts in build this CarPorn. Links below allow to find a set point in our projects with the N54. Greetings from 🇨🇴.
Thanks Michael! I'm happy to help fellow BMW enthusiasts! I figure it's the least I can do now that I've gone through this whole build with first-hand experience.
Te veo peligroso Mike....
Just got my son a very clean low mile 2013 135i just like yours.
We want to do your whole set-up
That's awesome! This is the perfect video to follow along with then. Just start buying things as you can afford them.
I see you have a google excel file of the list of mods + pricing. are you able to share that with us as well?
Most of the mods are listed below in the description. You can see current pricing by clicking the link there.
Thanks for making this, took short break from working on my to contemplate going single turbo, and now I'm just counting my blessings. I bought my car heavily modded and just have to clean up and re do everything that was done. I would have bought everything too good see the numbers ran through
Nice, always a lot easier on the wallet to buy something already modified, as long as it was done well!
@@jake_spence it was not done well, but at least the parts are decent, single turbo would simplify the car a lot, but it's not that bad getting the engine exposed from underneath
How can I tell if I have a leaky injector besides the cold start misfire I went a while with no light then it turned on for a second and turned off had a cylinder 3 and 6 code so I did coils and plugs and realized my plugs were trashed burnt at the tips well for those 2 cylinders someone help
The plug will be wet in fuel after sitting overnight with a leaky injector.
i just spend 2k on my i car and i thought i was baller.
lol I spent 10k on my E92 330D M Sport - It is worth it, for the pleasure of the drive - thanks for the video content -
So basically about 3 years worth of tax returns and the soul of my 1st child and I'm in the game😩🤦🏾♂️
Yeah, exactly! 😂
Damn! Nice video! I was halfway through my list of all parts for my single build! (On3)
Nice! Gotta love building these cars...
its fun, but not so fun when looking at the bank account after a project like this hahah
So are you still pushing 700+ hp through the stock 6 speed manual with just flywheel+clutch upgrade? Do you have to limit boost in any of the gears? What about the rear diff, half shafts, driveshafts? Are they able to take the power?
Yup. With the drag radial tires, I don't have to limit boost in any gear. Stock rear diff, axles, driveshaft, etc. If you care about dig racing, I'd suggest getting an LSD and upgraded axles, but you don't NEED them.
@@jake_spence you don't happen to know what the limit is for the stock 6-sp Manual or Automatic do you?
I got a 2011 Mustang GT, they say stock for the clutch is like 550ft-lbs, 700ft-lbs for the Manual Tranny, and 800ft-lbs for the Automatic.
xXBurntBaconXx i am running jb4 and mhd backend 21psi with e60 mix, never done a dyno but the stock clutch is holding up. From what ive seen auto trans limit is around 650whp if you keep the torque under 600.
It’s pouring rain in California right now. I suddenly don’t mind the rain so much now after watching this 😂
Lol
What do the cheaper single turbos go for? The wast gate rattle is pretty simple to replace the bushing. Removing the turbo to do it on the other hand. LOL
Yeah, twin turbos suck to work on. That's part of the reason I chose a top mount single turbo. You can look at an ON3 kit which is on the cheaper end.
@@jake_spence That kit isn't to bad. It's under 4k so that's a plus lol. I may stick with a twin set up for now until I end up with 3k I don't need. Lol. Step one is getting a 335i first.
awesome car man. definitely gave me an insight on whether to go single.
Thanks! And that's what the video is for... I love the setup!
Thanks a lot Jake for sharing this information , i want to build drift car 135i or 335i with N54 engine , from beginning i would get good suspension , way bar ,i would do simple modifications like short shifter, add hydraulic hand brake , remove exhaust mulfer , downpipe, cahrgepipe, and i will try different tuning , i think stage 1 would be enough for beginning and will test a lot things .
Funny I'm watching this now, this was 5 days after my son was born. We share the same birthday. Anyway, I drove him home through that vary storm when it was in Minnesota. Haha small world.
Haha, nice. Small world indeed.
Wow man, great video!
Thank you!
I have a 135i and I was wondering if you can pass emissions with a jb4, and catless down pipes. I also live in Wisconsin.
I don't have emissions in my county. You should be able to pass if you clear the codes or install a DP fix.
I think I'll just stick to some piping and exhaust with a tune lol this is above and beyond the call of duty
Haha, it's a rabbit hole for sure.
Awesome video, I just subscribed great channel you got. U made me make a decision with with video lol I was wondering when u pulled the N54 from the junkyard and did everything. You touch the internals at all?
Noticed you had over 100xxx miles on the car. Would you say it's still worth it to purchase an n54 motor 135i or 335i with higher mileage even if a single turbo build is not in the future for it? Or would searching for a low mileage be worth the extra cash on top? Thanks!
I'm a firm believer that condition is more important than mileage. Check under the oil cap and see if there is sludge, buildup or discoloration. Do a compression/leakdown test. If everything looks good, I'd feel comfortable about it!
super cool video! just subscribed to your channel!
Thanks man! Welcome aboard!
just checked out the docrace kit, really nice! do you know by any chance if it fits RHD? cause i heard lots of "the steering column is right in the way...RHD is a PITA" would be awesome if the kit fits also RHD
I don't have an answer for that. Email John at Doc Race if you're seriously interested, he could give you an answer: sales@docrace.com
ok cool thanks, will do that!
And I spend about £2,500 tuning my M140i and it made 455bhp/634nm just with a Wagner 200 cell cat, ITG air filter, remap, and XHP3 gearbox software.
Another £700 would get a an upgraded high pressure fuel pump which would get me close to 500bhp.
Almost fbo n54 makes about that stock turbos
Does the single turbo mod also fit a 335i? Coupe Model I really want that model n54 but I was thinking with all I’m going to spend on the 335i should I just go ahead and buy an m3?? Or just stay with the 335i and build it up that’s what’s really twisting my mind I would like some advice idk what todo tbh.
Yes, this same single turbo kit will fit a 335i.
Santos Tuner its been 4 months since you posted this, so maybe you have already made your decision, but if your considering e92 m3, you will be surprised at how slow it is(relative to even a stock turbo fbo 335) and how little potential it has for increased power. If your looking for a handling machine, the m3 is the better choice, however theres not much you can do in terms of big power. Also from my experience the m3 motors have a higher chance of blowing throughout wear and tear, especially if you tune them and drive aggressively. The n54 is the go to for big power but also has its share of problems.
There is any chance to build some turbo in 125i e82 ? 😅
Anything is possible with enough money!
this is spot on got around the same amount in my ST build if you do it right it is not cheap there is no way around it no such thing
Hey jake I just bought a 135i and love it what would you say a good safe hp you can make in stock turbos but with all full bolt ons is!?
I made 450whp/500wtq on stock turbos. That was FBO, E60 fuel and JB4 map 6 @ 21psi.
Jake Spence oh ok awesome thanks for the info!
Jake Spence and you had a waste hate rattle ?
Very helpful video, thx man!
No problem, glad to help!
That’s pretty good for over 700 hp keep up the good work mate
Thanks man!
Great video mate well done nice car
Thanks John!
WOW!
Right! I love the overall setup of the car considering what I have into it.
This is insane. All you need to have is a relatively cheap FBO 500hp stock turbos N54 6MT with a OS Giken LSD to have all the fun and do drifting, trackdays and some Nordschleife. Some glory run on the dyno is not worth all that money!
I had a year or two of FBO 500hp 6MT fun, but wanted more. I'm very happy with the current setup!
@@jake_spence Yeah modding is fun I get it, but 50k dollars in total is a lot of cash and you can buy a lot for that money... :D I overtake GT3's on the Nurburgring in my 335i and I'm only risking 15k worth of money and drift circles around an E92 M3 because I have a better LSD... It all depends what your goals are I guess.
Dude, the delay between shifts. You wouldn't move onto dct if you had the chance?
Good video. Now I somewhat understand why people’s N54 fail. Gotta pay to play. I like that
Yup! If you cheap out and always cut corners, things are bound to fail. But I maintain my car and rarely have issues!
Jake Spence yea good video bro. Very needed video for the N54 platform
I got my eye on one of these, 09 6 speed for $5k. I’m heavily tempted to get it now.
u got it?
why did you go with the BMP port injection as appose to the AD egineering kit ?
Everything I mentioned in the video, plus the BMP kit has centered injector ports instead of the offset that ADE has.
Subbed because you're from Wisconsin too!!!
Hell yeah, Wisco represent!
What have you done in terms of suspension? Do you know what the cause of the low compression was on your previous engine? From what friends have told me running bigger twins, the higher torque puts a lot of stress on the engine. Also If you ran the single turbo setup before PI, what were your numbers and how was the lag with a 6266 in comparison to stock fbo 21psi?
I just have Eibach Pro-Kit springs for suspension. And I don't know what happened to my old engine, I never opened it up. Torque is definitely harder on the internals than horsepower is. I have never run the single turbo setup without PI. The lag is definitely noticeable, but it pulls much harder up top. At 11psi, I made 450whp on the single turbo setup.
@@jake_spence My turbos are on their way out, smoking and all, but id like to improve the handling and wheel hop before rushing into PI 6266. However i haven't spent much time researching suspension modifications yet, maybe you have. I see a lot of people going with better springs and shocks instead of coilovers, why is that? I'm considering doing m3 arm kit from ECS, mfactory or wavetrack LSD, stiffer subframe, diff bushings, trans mounts, engine mounts, and BC coilovers. I honestly don't know much about coilovers, spring rates, and all of that and haven't had the time to look into it. Would you recommend something different?
BTW thanks for the quick reply, great videos and an awesome 135!
How do you have your oil catch can setup on your single turbo?
Currently just a BMS oil catch can that attached to the flapper valve. Then I'm just running a hose down the transmission tunnel and venting to air for the outlet, instead of routing it to the turbo intake filter. I also have an RB PCV valve.
Sweet ill go that route too thanks for the reply
Jake! you going to do a video on how much all your suspension cost? Pleaseeeee!
Is it possible to make that power in an automatic 135i?
New sub bro from uk🤙🏻 got 1 series now but getting 430D next year! Love the content keep it up
Thanks man! Welcome aboard!
That's not so bad for what you have. Priceless car you got there.
People say you can't buy happiness
..... or can you.
I think if you gave everybody in the world this car there would be 75% less suicides.
Haha, I love that outlook.
99% of the people out there can barely handle 350 crank hp and you want to give them a 750whp car?
Guillermo Lopez ya know you make a hell of a point there, fuck some of them cant even handle 300 whp if its rwd😂
Just got an sti...making me wish I got a 135i lol
Still wish that?
Where in Wisconsin are you located? I'm in Marshfield. You'd be a good resource for what I want to do with my Z3.
What performance upgrades can i cancel off the list you put on UA-cam in im not running e85
You can narrow that down alot if you buy a used jb4 and charge pipe on facebook groups and stuff
Yup, used is the way to go! Craiglist, Facebook, forums, etc.
Dear future Jake, the 135i makes 751whp.
What part of wisconsin do you stay bro? You should go to Mvade in chicago this Sunday!
I'm further north. There is a WCEC opener on Sunday that I might go to if my weekend clears up.
Hi, how much power can be achieved on serial direct fuel injectors?
450 hp
Dude I fucking love u for this ...especially the fact u put up links
Subbbbeddd
Just trying to help other enthusiasts experience the single turbo life! Glad I can help!
Hey dude love your precise and informative videos. I live in Panamá and am thinking about doing your 135i set up, problem is I only have access to 91 octane fuel. My goal is a street driven 10 sec 1/4 mile car. What's the max power level I can expect on 91 octane. And is mid 10s possible. I plan to do drastic weight savings, back seat delete light weight race seats exc. Thank you. Any advice would be highly appreciated.
10 sec will be almost impossible on 91 octane. You will need meth and a lot of weight reduction. I'm not 100% sure how much power you can safely make on 91 octane because I've always had access to E85.
@@jake_spence thanx a million, I really liked the setup but like I said no access to E85, virtually eliminates me using the N54. Well back to the venerable svt cobra.
what is ur 0-60? and what tune would u recomend for an 1m?
Fastest I've done is 3.93s but I'll improve that this year with my new transmission. I would recommend a JB4 for the 1M: bit.ly/2t8Hevi
Brand new set of index 12 injectors for $1487 and a valve cover brand new from FCP for $341.. Wow. Good times I see
modified td04 turbos are another option too, do a ebay search For BMW 335i E90 E91 E92 E93 135i E82 E88 3.0L 650HP Billet 6+6 16T Turbocharger (Fits: BMW [E92])
Brand new on ebay
Will insurance cover these parts in case of accident?
No, typically not. Unless you're paying for additional coverage.
Idk where in Wisconsin you’re from, but I’m definitely not liking getting snow over night and having 50° weather the following day.
Yup, the state is so bipolar. I think we're finally done with the snow now though!
50G´s damn boy... You buy a GTR skyline 1st edtition in portugal for that price already
I know lol
Great Video !
do the poly mounts on the trans cause any vibrations or it feels oem?
I didn't notice any increased vibration. Now I just don't have to worry about them ripping.
Probably dont feel much extra vibration with the manual but the auto might give you some
Holy poop man you kind of just scared me out of getting a 335i. Lol. What do you think? I'm stuck between either a Mini r53 or n54 car. Mini I found for 4k. 335i e92 for 8k.
335i all the way... but I'm a little biased lol.
Jake Spence lol I figured you would be but have you ever driven a Mini atleast?
Yes, I've driven a modded R53 Cooper S many times, cool little car. I've also driven the newer ones. They are fun for autocross and spirited driving, but lack power for me.
Jake Spence I'm actually wanting to autocross whichever one I get part-time. Have you autocross your 135i?
Btw my bad I didn't realize your name was automatically being inserted at the beginning of each of my replies. Lol
Jake, I love you man! I mean look you spent bank, and still smile big because you just love your BMW(s). Carry on man!! 👍😄😁😁
I had a 2003 540i M-sport manual 4.4L aluminum V8, 6 speed, and wow was it an expensive car to maintain. That was one of the best driving cars I had the pleasure of driving though it was down a bit on power (300hp). Found out it needed the timing chain system completely rebuilt and at 80,000 miles no less (rebuild $5k). I sold it on craigslist for half of what I poured in to the car over 2 years (around $30k with purchase of car) Yikes, so I wanted more power and upgrades for it were crazy (stroker kit to 4.8L / 450-500HP $30k + fuel management ect, ect) Shortly after I bought a 2nd generation CTS-V that is great on power, takes the abuse of being driven hard and is worlds cheaper to maintain. Will not own another BMW out of factory warranty again, but they sure are nice to look at and drive when they are not broken.
Those are awesome cars. I've always wanted an E39 540i or M5. Allllllllmost bought a 540i with 210k a few weeks ago but passed on it. Can be maintenance hogs, but totally worth it (most of the time, lol).
I even put the e39 M5 limited slip diff and drive shaft, aluminum flywheel, larger clutch ect, good times!
Dead!! He said 5k off the rip. That’s more than i paid for my 2009 335xi.
Sounds like you got a good deal on your 335xi!
Worth every penny
Nice build!! n54 or n55? pros and cons?
Thanks! N54, but I'm a little bias. It can handle so much power, as you can see in my latest dyno video. It's a great platform once you're up to date on maintenance.
Pros:fun to drive and make tons of power
Cons::the N54 will destroy your wallet in maintenance and modding.
Michael S fuckin amen to that👌🏻😂
You would think for a $15,000 build you’d do more then a JP4 flash tune.
Would this be cheaper for an automatic? I was interested in this kind of build despite my name
Damn bro. I have owned my 08 135i 6spd .for almost a year i paid $13k with 74k miles. I have dumped almost $20k into it. Waiting for my spec stage 3+ clutch. Then its off to get it tuned. I will have about $35k into it when its all said and done. Its an expensive hobby. Have you taken your car to dyno yet?
Sounds like you got a pretty good deal! Gotta love these cars. I'm waiting for the roads to dry up so I can make a few adjustments to the car. Then it'll be on the dyno sometime in May! You'll have to stay tuned for the numbers.
Jake Spence sweet man rite on. Im in northern California we dont have snow here. Same here in may i will get mine dyno tuned cant wait. Your car looks awesome congrats on your build.
F10 m5 cost 20k in my area , simple remap and u got 700bhp
Must be nice to get an F10 M5 for $20k lol.
@@jake_spence my bad £20k im in uk
Jesus man , what do you do for work? ... I'm asking seriously... I'm in love w these cars . I've only ever " built" first generation small block chevys. I love tuners tho... I've never had a bmw.... I've had 2 tuned vr6s n two 1.8ts .. had a c6 a6 4.2... that last one was a terrible terrible mistake.... but I've got a serious jonesin to actually build something around 550 600hp and have it be reliable if I'm not beating the shit out of it... some life coaching would be so greatly appreciated.
I do marketing, web development, e-commerce, etc. I don't make as much as it might seem, but I'd like to think I'm smart with my money. You'll love how easy it is to make power on this platform if you decide to go down this path!
Jake Spence I'm in love w it. Straight 6 w turbos???? 👀... I had no idea about these cars till just recently. First looking at em and taking note that ppl were putting singles on em after looking at a few videos, then doing research... forged bottoms, n all of the potential w just a few mods and a tune... yeah I fell in love hard.
If it's possible get in contact w me parlevufrance762@gmail.com
And now I'm depressed and it's not even my money hahah. Nice build so far.
Lol, right! Thanks man.
135i in a e87? I my country this type called the 130i
It's an E82, just a coupe.
Are you going to the wcec season opener Sunday?
I didn't plan on it because I have a pretty busy weekend, but might if my schedule clears up.
WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING I’m from MN I need to see this thing in person
Marketing/web/e-commerce during the day and hustling always on the side.
Soooo excited for the new Doc Race manifold, can't wait to see how you like it! It's too bad Haltech doesn't make a full plug-n-play standalone for the n54.
I'm super excited too! You guys will see it as soon as I get it. I also wish there was a solid standalone option for these cars.
Can you make a mod list for the best mods in mid 400's on a budget 🤔
Sure! I made 450whp/502wtq on stock turbos with the following list of parts:
TUNING
JB4 Map 6 @ 22psi + MHD BMS E85 KR flash
JB4 Tuner: amzn.to/2HcCuKD
JB4 Wireless Connect Kit: amzn.to/2Hehg2X
MHD Flashing Cable: amzn.to/2qGKbl2
OTG USB Adapter: amzn.to/2qKvc9R
Free MHD Backend Flash: www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29236
PERFORMANCE UPGRADES
Turbo Inlets: amzn.to/2JYetsy
Catless Downpipes: amzn.to/2HbPTqg
7" Intercooler: amzn.to/2JUUECx
Charge Pipe: amzn.to/2qGuE5I
TiAL Blow Off Valve: amzn.to/2HdILpt
Exhaust: amzn.to/2HdrNHQ
Oil Catch Can: amzn.to/2Hd1p0L
NGK 5992 Spark Plugs: amzn.to/2JWIf0A
Fuel-It Stage 1 LPFP: www.fuel-it.com/e-series-stage-1-lpfp-upgrade/
BMS Cowl Filters: www.burgertuning.com/cowl_filter_covers_bmw_135_335.html
RB PCV: www.rbturbo.com/rbpcv
TRANSMISSION
335is/550i Clutch Upgrade: amzn.to/2JYSl1i
MFactory Single-Mass Flywheel: www.n54tuning.com/mfactory-light-weight-flywheel.html
BMW Performance Short Shift Kit: amzn.to/2JW5hVz
Clutch Pedal Stop: amzn.to/2qJTfG5
JB4 No-lift-shift/2-step Relay: www.burgertuning.com/N54_JB4_upgrades.html
Redline D4 ATF Transmission Fluid: amzn.to/2JWbssH
Redline 75W90 Rear Differential Fluid: amzn.to/2J6pPt7
Jake Spence that's great info, thanks for sharing brotha!
I make ~420whp with jb4/mhd +fuel it stage 2. on pump E85. Everything else is stock.. I'd start there, but logging is important, keep an eye on what your n54 is doing!
Jake Spence thank you so much man!
Lmfao I was dying at the end of the video. Gotta pay to play I suppose.
Lol, damn right. You know how it goes!
Hey did you upgrade to lsd diff?
I forgot to ask also what engine mounts do you have?
I still have the stock diff, but plan on getting an LSD in the near future. And I just used OE replacement engine mounts, you can get the same pair here: amzn.to/2HcNIi4
Jake Spence Thanks Jake!
Love the content keep up the good work 💪🏾
Thanks man, will do!
Not too bad, that’s the price of a brand new one
Anyway to get the spreadsheet 🤷🏻♂️
Check out my website: my1series.com/modifications/
funniest part of the video by far was the fuck fuck fuck fuck meme
I’m actually fine with 320hp lol
i still dont see how u are 20k in to just a turbo set up i mean like replacing gaskets and stuff is normal but wow
The complete turbo setup was only about $7k. The rest was all just additional mods I wanted to go from 500whp to 700+whp.