To answer the most common comment in this comments section, _"Why is this asshole complaining about a problem without proposing a solution?"_ I did, 1 month ago, in a detailed video. See here: ua-cam.com/video/8WGjCeFyr1g/v-deo.html I mentioned that video in this video, and linked it in the description. *Feel free to disagree, or argue against it, but please don't say nothing else has been proposed!* Because I covered what was proposed a long time ago. I can't explain why a well thought through, well cited video got 7% the views in 2 months that a dumb cellphone rant did in 12 hours. Smarter, more knowledgeable people have discussed this problem and pointed out some really obvious corruption and proposed *specific remedies to it.* I explained why I thought this was a great step forward. It isn't perfect; but it's a start. The findings don't require genius to understand. I went over how the system currently works, along with the proposed plan to make things better. It's taking an axe to the helpthehomeless-nonprofit-industrial-complex that sucks the taxpayer dry with nothing to show for it. Citations for that video down below: twitter.com/thebl0w/status/1418642879111745541 apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=133770118&name=The%20H%20E%20L%20P%20USA%20Fund%20Inc.&city=New%20York&state=NY&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=CHARITIES,%20COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=CHARITIES&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS www.nydailynews.com/new-york/homeless-shelters-founded-cuomo-riddled-violence-article-1.2628746 www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-hevesi-homeless-shelters-cuomo-campaign-donations-20190728-nbr47cqytzdpfdfjtqvdpjiy2q-story.html www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/laurence-belinsky-well-paid-boss-nonprofit-group-founded-gov-cuomo-resigns-article-1.957177 council.nyc.gov/press/2021/05/25/2092/
Because the yt algorithm loves short ranty videos because they spur more "debate" than a thought out one with arguments that are harder to refute. The algo is smart enough to understand your content now. Deep learning has come so far... More than the average internet troll apparently..
It makes sense for vents to not be obstructed. Homeless people can stay warm in shelters, and if there's not enough, then they should work on that, which doesn't require allowing those people to obstruct vents.
The less effort a video has the easier it is to critique because the video doesn't go out of its way to explain anything, the more effort you put in means more sources or arguments preemptively made more points raised and the amount that can be added or refuted by comment is significantly less, add into the fact is is short so full watch time is basically 100% of the views it's a runaway from comments, rewatching to debate in the comment section, and viewer engagement as a whole, honestly if you want to blow up a video make it 30 seconds long and say something crazy or you want to bury it make it 10hrs and go into such detail people fall asleep. To be clear this video is much closer to the first case hence the views
To be clear, I agree that the officials should do more to improve shelters, but I think you should focus on that instead of complaining about people not being able to obstruct vents. I also think it's reasonable (and common) for people to not want a homeless group right in front of their home because problems can come from that. (I made a separate comment because edit button isn't working for some reason.)
Since everyone loves China now, and by that I mean the US elite since they sent all the jobs there, NYC could apply the Chinese solution for homeless people . That way we will have more organ donors, hair donors and empty jails, and no homeless. Wait. You did know the Chinese solution right?
How do you help someone who don't want help? There are MANY people who like that they have no responsibility, bills, or anything else tying them down. They live the ability to travel and see the country. You're assuming that these are victims because you don't approve of their life style. As someone who has been homeless. Trust me tossing money at this issue will fix nothing. Because there are millions of people who don't want a home.
@@usagifang what conclusion did you come up with to call them a trumptard? Weird insult and proof of idiocy of someone that disagrees with whats right.
@@TheDarkoricle Quite ironic how you target them based on them talking shit about Trump, then go on to say "oh well the guy they insulted was right tho" kinda hypocritical. Yeah, why don't I agree with a guy who unironically believes that people don't want homes. You know? Because logic.
I was homeless as a child. It’s almost unfathomable to believe bc my mother did such a wonderful job of making me feel normal despite homeless shelters. I cannot imagine the otherwise…
There seems to be good money in homelessness, just not for the homeless. I bet that grate cost 25k to design, test, fabricate and install. I'd love to see who got the contract on that.
Same happened in Sydney, the city councils decided to make outdoors seats and bus stop areas as uncomfortable for homeless people as possible. Added unnecessary arm rests and lumpy gaps. Yet the root cause of homelessness is never addressed. Often mental health issues going on.
I remember that meme where it was like "cutting homeless people in half by 2022" and people were joking about the wording. Ney York would physically cut homeless in half if they could legally get away with it lol.
@@Voltaphonic it was by the artist fokawolf, he puts up loads of fake posters around birmingham. You'll always spot one any time you go into digbeth especially.
Fun story, there was a guy who was dedicated to creating affordable portable housing for the homeless in California and they shut it down for "not being safe to live in".
What the hell is an affordable portable house? That doesn't solve the problem at all. The problem was never that the homeless didn't have a roof over their head but that there were too many of them in the cities that the cities want to be able to permanently kick out.
@@GeorgeMonet if you have a roof and the assurance that your things won't be stolen from you it's easier to find a Job and start saving money to scape poverty. So yes, no having a home is a problem that keep homeless people homeless
I was homeless in NYC several years ago. I'm a veteran and was in a horribly violent situation. I escaped, but I'll NEVER forget my time in the cold, flagging, holes in my shoes and bruises on my body. Sheer insanity!!! Thank you for posting this! ❤❤❤
Being a veteran myself (along with my son and grandfather), why should WE get taken care of but people who DIDN'T serve not get taken care? We're all humans. There are shitty veterans, good veterans, shitty homeless veterans, and good homeless veterans. ALL veterans get lifetime benefits. The VAST majority of homeless veterans could get a permanent and total unemployability rating and receive $4,000+ PER MONTH, TAX FREE, that includes free public transportation, discounts, and in some states pay no property taxes, and more but they refuse to go through with VA evaluation because most homeless "veterans" are either dishonorably discharged and ineligible for benefits or they have a mental illness and are not wanting help. We need to treat everyone equally and stop putting certain groups on pedestals.
@@chadcoady9025It's hilarious how psychologically addicted people are now to try to help others then helping their own selves. People now are so dependent of others around them its mind blowing, just world of 5 year olds. I don't understand at all why it would be my responsibility to stop living my own life to help someone else's who can't even help themselves in anything. Yet people out there can't even help themselves in anything to begin with, therefore how are you supposed to help someone else? Only you can help yourself out of your own problems, not other's. If you're a so called grown human being and you still need to be held by the hand by others around you, you never had something that's called discipline and self dependence withing your life.
@@ReigoVassal I have a better idea. If all the socialists and corporatists politicians die, then there will be no more homelessness for generations to come.
@@lad4830 the thing about the overpopulation myth is that it’s only a problem insofar as more people means more resources being consumed, and I don’t know if you noticed but homeless people don’t generally consume a lot of resources.
We need itemized audits of where our money goes, from the federal to local levels. It’s ridiculous how we give our hard earned money to thieves in suits and never once request a receipt
Give? No friendo it’s at gun point. Don’t pay your taxes armed lawmen will come to your house and put you behind bars and if you so much as resist boom you got a gun in your face.
When I was young I was hired as a guard to keep people off the grates on my overnight shift on 7th avenue and 47 street. All they wanted to do is stay warm at 2am-4am, so I would allow them. People with kids, people alone, I mean so many people you wouldn't expect are homeless, the only deal I asked was to be gone by 4am and head to another spot, so my boss wouldn't catch em and fire me.
The most infuriating aspect is that these things cost more than a normal vent covers / benches. The same applies to all the other so-called "hostile architecture" installments. So, not only are the people who install them refusing to help the poor, they actually pay money to make their life even more miserable. Therefore, i refer to those things not as "hostile architecture" but as "sadistic architecture".
Local authorities spend vastly, vastly more money in punishing homeless people for simply existing than they ever would do if they did anything to help accommodate and help them move out of their situation.
This falls under the category of "hostile design" and there are many examples of it, such as pigeon spikes, making surfaces that were flat sloped so people cant sit on it, and adding little brass bumps to short walls so skateboarders cant grind on them.
Some of your examples are perfectly fair. Not having pigeons perch in spots where they can shit on your patrons is pretty reasonable. Preventing skateboarders from grinding YOUR property is fine too. This is coming from someone who did grinds. Not all of these designs were made with malicious intent, so be careful what you use to make a point.
@@MrSatchelpack true, bit making the ground slope so people can't comfortably sit on the ground seems excessive. But idk maybe there's a situation where it's necessary?
The best part of this is that, despite however many millions this somehow cost, it isn’t going to stop anyone. A couple of blankets or a few pieces of cardboard plus a bit of positioning is all it takes to overcome that. Plus if you’re actually freezing, a little discomfort is not a problem.
You’re crazy $1000?? The design fees alone for the drafting and development gotta be several thousand. Actually producing it probably over a thousand for like 10 feet of it
@@UA-camCommenter7402when the government is paying the winning design will usually be someone involved with the committee choosing the design and suddenly a £10,000 ,design is valued as 1 000 000
@@UA-camCommenter7402the cost of labor alone to build one of these is easily over $1k. Add an additional $1k minimum for installation. Then add hundreds of thousands for R&D, hundreds of thousands for permits & licensing, hundreds of thousands to hire an attorney to draft necessary paperwork, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. This would easily cost $10 million as a city-wide project
@@thatscrazy6373 Did you just pull that out of your ass? The point of these structures are to get them off the streets and into to shelters and then on to secure housing. During covid they were spread out among hotels and shelters to stop the spread.
Defensive makes it sound like the city is under attack. Aggressive would be more accurate. The city is actively antagonizing the local homeless population.
@@TKnightcrawler how did you become aware of them in the first instance? I think the majority of people are almost completely unawares, based on 6 years or so living in London…
In Nashville they started putting in wheelchair accessible benches. It’s like a bench but you cut out the middle of it… in all reality it’s really an anti homeless bench.
This might sound insensitive but I'm genuinely curious as to the purpose of "Wheelchair Accessible benches" are... because they're already sitting down in the wheel chair. Most of them are really comfortable a soft and have a hand brake of sorts... I don't know, I just don't see a use for it. Especially since it sounds like more effort for someone who lost the use of their legs to move to the bench from a wheelchair
@@geek4306 the only argument is if the bench has a rain/ sun cover over it otherwise they could have just put it at the end of the bench. or even at both ends.
@@geek4306 Honestly, I’m pretty sure it’s less of a comfortability thing and more of a relaxation type of thing. Sometimes they just want to get out of their wheelchairs to sit on a bench just for the satisfaction and relief. Now that shit where they literally cut holes in the sides of benches is kinda stupid.
@@H0DAX1 I can imagine that if they were with family, theyd want to maybe sit next to them or something, I don't know but making a gap in the middle sounds stupid
This has actually a name: hostile architecture. Many places in-especially-big cities are designed to keep people away or at least to have them hang out for the shortest time possible.
I've noticed seating in some big name restaurants are the same. Pay for your food, eat, and gtfo. Well, I no longer pay for their food now, have fun paying the bills.
I don't see much hostile architecture in my area but, if I go to Houston or Dallas it becomes way more apparent. It is a poor plan and solves nothing and it generally implemented to hide a problem cheaply instead of addressing it. Also I don't like restaurants that use it in their seating as they generally have poor quality food and even worse service.
Property value jumps into my mind. Also half the poor are not homeless so much as jobless. The other half are dangerous. Half the poor myself included needs to figure something out...the other half tough shit. They sure as hell don't give a damn bout how u feel kiddo. Just saying.
No no, it's not the country itself, but the city. Liberal politicians to be exact. You don't see this problem ANYWHERE that has a conservative governor.
@@thecomedypilot5894 because red states have way less people. NYC is extremely dense, which drives up land value, which increases homelessness. whenever conservatives are in charge of running major metropolitan areas instead of rural towns, its a disaster. if democrats were actually progressive they would implement the extremely successful anti-homelessness policies we see in countries like finland and denmark, but then low iq republicans would call it communism.
Let's just drop agent orange across the country too, that will help with over population.. we are supposed to be helping the situation not worsening it
I’m going to quote a comedian who talked about this. It’s not homelessness it’s house less ness a home is a state of being a state of mind a home is a physical tangible Structure
Thank you so much for treating people who have hit rock bottom, whose lives are basically living hell and are struggling to survive one more day like absolute shit. Now they'll never try to feel like they deserve to be treated kindly ever again! That'll teach em!
I honestly don't think that's the purpose for these designs. Some of the homeless would stay homeless if they had an apartment to go to, it's a mental disorder. I'm sure there are residential buildings where families prefer not to walk out to a drugged-up herd of homeless out their front door. I get having compassion for the homeless, but it goes both ways.
@@Jkief123 of course, but I'm sure the general majority are not enjoying homelessness. Of course we get that, but homelessness is a debilitating situation to be in and we would be doing a better job trying to get those we can help out of it rather than dealing with the un-comfortability of seeing them. One is dealing with the root cause whilst the other is like a band-aid on a festering sore (just cosmetic really solves nothing).
@@Jkief123 yeah, maybe we should just let them die instead of helping them rehabilitate. There's a lot money can do, you just have to be smart about it.
“No we can’t kill homeless people for being homeless.” “Fine! What if they freeze to death?” “We aren’t going to lock them in freezers!” “I have a better idea.” “Is it a war crime?” “Not the first time.”
My state governor just demoted the homeless shelter that had 500 rooms in 2019 for profiting income apartment by billionaire developers and left thousand homeless families frozen to death through the harsh winter. When we stands up to protest then we got arrested for "illegal late-night" or loitering, lol. Wasn't first they used police to kick them out when they have nowhere to go home to.
Now they can still place planks over the spikes underneath bridges as well as between those protrusions where the air can still come through and put cardboard on top of that then lay down to keep warm for where there is a Will there is a way.” Keep this in mind before you M.A.D. satanist get anymore ideas.”
I mean I understand why your angry but you have to think about the non homeless people who’ve been harassed by the homeless . These homeless have problems man 🤦🏽♂️. They harass a lot of people due drugs, envy, all sorts reasons. Heck some homeless people may rob people so I can’t call nyc terrible you know what I’m saying but the city should put there energy into helping the homeless rather than “evicting” the homeless but I do know you can’t just enable homeless people because it’ll lead to problems like Chicago for example. Chicago has a homeless people problem and it’s disgusting and filled with feces and pee. So you just can’t enable the homeless living near the communities nobody would want that in there neighborhoods.
@@vlahblah4785 wow. Thanks for using logic and critical thinking unlike 90% of the comments. Imagine paying 2200 or more a month in rent only to be harassed or assaulted by a crazy person that resides down on your side walk. That’s a good way to lose a whole lot of revenue. I feel for the mentally ill homeless but any other, if theirs a will theirs a way, like idk.. moving to an affordable city to build your life back up 🤷🏽♂️
@@anthonyfletcher8053 you've never experienced what they do and likely never will. You did not make yourself who you are today on your own. Be grateful and pay it forward.
@@ewokshoterz as someone who’s lived in nyc for a bit to study, i can say that it’s somewhat concerning seeing these people on the streets. Not only is it obviously bad for them, but it’s also bad for the people who live there. I’ve had pretty poor experiences with people, even when minding my own business. Especially if you refuse to give them something IF they ask, some people just shrug it off, others take it the wrong way. It’s also a cause for paranoia ngl, I’ve had someone follow me around for a bit before i got onto campus grounds. I know majority of homeless people aren’t that bad, but it’s the ones who do things like that who cause concern.
this is called hostile architecture and it's actually quite common. Examples of hostile architecture include spikes under bridges, spikes in benches, removing benching areas, and much more.
This is a “hostile architecture” perfect example, there’s plenty of documentation about these devices in urbanistics and sociology books. Humans can be so dishumans.
@@twistedgrillz7729 ok then what about the ones who are trying rise above the poverty line but are down on their luck at the moment? They too need a place to lay even for a moment.
NYC: " I have an idea to help homelessness." Batman: "Oh." NYC: "We can hire them to install architecture all over the city." Batman: "Hmm like what kind of architecture?" NYC: "Like the kind that hurts"
@@doctorfeelgood2670 While it's certainly not the best comment of any sort, I would argue that it is not BY FAR the "most cringe" comment on UA-cam... I've seen some shit man
Then they go " *just get a loan to buy a home and work the debt off* " Not really realizing what they suggest is essential impossible, or if it does work, then they'll never be able to pay it off and be basically working for the bank just paying off "interest".
When I was homeless in Denver, we built igloos and heated them with candles and body heat. Works like a charm. It even had a PVC line taking sewage to a grate 30 yards away. We'd "flush" the toilet by pouring water down the line from a five gallon bucket.
Heeeyyy Denver street community represent! Amazingly deep culture, really. People underestimate how rich the social history of the street and traveler subculture is.
@@sixfeetundertheradar6080 dude in my new apartment that I'm watching for my brother cause people keep breaking in, I found a full on twin sized grocery bag mattress and it was the coolest thing I've seen in a while. Some serious ingenuity!
Government: “How do we deal with homeless?” Citizen: “How about funding shelters and foundations?” Government: *”Lmfao how about we just make their lives an even grander hell…”*
@@harlow8577 Lol, whut? What this has to do with the government? The construction crew just built this from nothing then? My governor just demoted a homeless shelter that had over 500 rooms for profiting. That conservative-pro-life governor.
Just want to point out that building more shelters won't do much. Many homeless people refuse or don't qualify because you'll be drug tested and have to remain sober.
@@soggybreh810 Indeed. All the people who got kicked from their jobs and can't find new work too. Just find work! It's that easy. You are on the streets because you were laid off? Go get a job!
Thank you for speaking out on this. It disgusts me how the government and people in general view the homeless. They're STILL PEOPLE. No one wants to struggle to survive... not knowing when your next meal will be and being in harsh conditions with no shelter... People fail to realize that addiction, mental illness, and the cost of living are the root causes of homelessness. And it can happen to ANYONE. They're worthy of respect and basic human needs/rights just like anyone else.
Ah, hostile architecture. My 'favorite' example is probably a gap in the middle of a bench for 'people in wheelchairs' (as if theres a deficit of places to sit while in a wheelchair...)
Don’t think I have seen this before unless i don’t get what you mean. But another “popular” one is the ridges on seat of benches. Not the one to deter skateboarding, but the weird leg molds some have. Can’t lay down on those. Also, needless armrest dead center of bench.
Hostile, antagonistic architecture has been plaguing this city for years. Designing uncomfortable benches that you can't lie down on, covering any surface you might stop to rest on with spikes, and just simply removing benches. As I get older and less physically fit and agile, I've noticed this not so subtle command to keep it moving. The landlords, the lords of the land, don't want you to be able to rest, to loiter, to stop and smell the flowers or feel the breeze. If you want to enjoy existence, you're gonna have to pay. No free rest and relaxation for you. The city is like a penitentiary for the poor and less able bodied.
@@mortaldeity1922 well not everybody is fit. Old people exist. Sick people exist. Disabled people exist. Do they not deserve the same accessibility and comfort of your everyday, "fit" person? I thought society was working towards treating people equally. Huh
@@mortaldeity1922 Aren't you helpful? Not to mention clever. Way to make that connection. But as people try to get back in shape, they may need a place to rest while exercising, or walking around. Public space should be beneficial and comfortable for the public. Wrapping everything in spikes and barbed wire is not a good look for a civil society. Disabling benches and places to rest (or skate on, or whatever) is not the answer. Hopefully you will be fit forever, and never get sick. Or hopefully you'll die young, and leave a pretty corpse, instead of getting old and breaking down. Either way, good luck to you, keen observer and captain of the obvious.
They aren't trying to get rid of homelessness, they are trying to remove people causing an inconvience by having bulk people stand on property; Use common ense
"If you're homeless, just buy a house" - A Legendary Girl on the Internet NEVER HAD so many likes on a comment, it really made my day everyone! Thanks y'all♥️
@Lane AWD only way I could agree with housing for homeless people is if it has rules like no alcohol/drugs and you would have to have a job in 1-3 years.
It’s called “dark design”. Saw a small exhibition about it in a museum. It’s when a city is designed in a way to reject certain people. It is also called “defensive design”, which it is called in an attempt to justify doing and dehumanise those that it is used against
*those are enemies of god who will bathe in fiery rocks from up above when the time comes. Each wrathful missile from the divine is programmed with inherent intelligence and will not miss its target. They will have subzero shelter or safety during the worst possible storm to befall mankind. Enmity with God is the stupidest move a human can make.*
@@stitchtehzombie7420 It looks repulsive. There’s a hunger strike group in tents going on for the Irish homeless in Dublin City center, look it up. I hope they are listened to this time.
reminds me of that prison in texas that spent 10 years and over $20,000 defending a lawsuit from a wool-allergic prisoner that wanted a non-wool blanket instead of just buying him a non-wool blanket. continue to inflict suffering at any cost
@@creamycream7081 Unless I'm mistaken it sounds like they're arguing over the precedent of whether or not prisons have to make adjustments for the prisoner. It may have been cheaper but then it opens up up whole bag of worms for literally every other prisoner. Plus in this instance if the prisoner was allergic to the blanket they should've brought their own one. If they had no money they could've used alternatives, like the shedts I'm assuming they had no problem with, and worked to buy one that suited him. It certainly would've been cheaper on the prisoner's side if they ponied up for a lawyer to argue the point.
Its understandable that they may have been blocking the ventilation but an easy solution to that would be to cover the vents with a similar architecture but instead have the top be flat and have openings on the side so the air can still pass through that way
It would also ruin the point of raising them in the first place though, since they are made that tall to prevent water from getting in. So holes on the side would allow water to get in.
@@dfct9494 damn, if only there was an architectural invention that helped humans keep water off of things. Like, idk, an outcrop on some kind of overhanging ledge of some variety that slopes water away.. alas! If only someone could invent such a thing and put it on top of all our buildings!
You can always round them up and ship them off to inturnment camps there they will be " off the streets" and the so called charity's can provide "Services" mental health screenings, employment training to become productive members of society, drug and alcohol treatment ehab and once they are "Clean & Sober" put them to work in factory or farm labor. Those found to be too mentally ill will be institutionalized for the "Greater Good of Society" How's *That* for a solution to the "homeless problum?"
@exposing truth Internment camp is also where they put American soldiers & American prisoners of war captured by the Imperial Japanese army during ww2 in basically hitler style concentration camp to torture and kill them...
Good example of hostile architecture. Tons of this stuff can be found across large urban areas with a big homeless population. I see them in Seattle all the time. It's also funny how well they design these things so that it looks more like a stylish thing at first glance, so that most people don't realize the true intent behind it.
@@virajgoonerarsenal8022 I mean, it's in there name. Who are we to take away the identity of a homeless person? If they're not homeless then what would they be? "Homed", it just dosen't have the same ring to it. Plus, if we actually fixed the homeless problem then how could I buy my second Yaht?
There ware way more of these “anti homeless” designs outside major banks such as chase. They would place small iron spikes around the banks to prevent people from sitting on it.
those spikes also make it anti-senior citizen. In a way it’s a rather shtty thing to do if somebody old just wants a place to sit for a moment and catch their breath.
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If you're from New York, this is literally your tax dollars hard at work. I laugh when I see cities do shit like this. Not because it's funny, but because a group of people, actually got together and decided thay this was the best way to deal with the homelessness issue. It's like putting a band-aid on a severed artery
@@Naz34452 it isn't even preventing anything though, it's just pushing the problem down the street to another area. It's almost as useful as literally burning money
@@BillAnt Homeless people eat good in America and have access to good drugs. Do you realize our homeless in America are better off than citizens in other countries?
@@NinjaSushi2 Yeah but also, they're homeless. I'm not sure why so many people like comparing countries to see which one is worse to justify the other one. Downplaying a serious problem helps no one.
I can sort of see the logic of it. The vent is there for a reason; if the vents are covered by mattresses or cardboard, then it isn't a vent any more. You wouldn't install a vent or grill in your flat and design it in such a way that it was easy to block it would you! Having said that, there should be warm dry places for rough sleepers to shelter.
There are 39,000 vents in the city, many of them being unblockable already since they're hidden in fake facade buildings, I doubt it was any sort of blockage issue for the vent system. The MTA's stated reason was anti-flooding, which is why they're not flush with the sidewalk anymore, but they don't mention the hostile architecture features.
@@kingding9542 This is the problem, even the guy who posted the video doesn't know or care about what that ventilation structure actually is, he's saying "i don't know it comes from subway or something". So do you think the engineers would design and drill and make this structure just because they have nothing else to do? That is a crucial engineering element of the system so if people were to block it it wouldn't function.
@@user-ou2md4nr4ywhile that might be true, this is just one of many examples, anti-homeless designs are everywhere, besides if they invested into making it work for both rather than yaknow, hate, they couldve solved it better.
If I may shed a light on the perspective of the western "elites" which I have some personal "education" of their views on - they genuinely have no desire to ever fix the homeless problem because they don't view it as a problem but as a necessary evil, they don't want them dirtying up the main city streets but they do want them in the alleys and under the bridges and so forth, mostly out of sight but always a ghost in the background. They are realists who believe there will always be those that can't function in and will suffer in any society of any construct but capitalism is the best system for raising the common standards of living for all of society - and there must be 3 classes - upper, middle and lower. Survival of the fittest means those who have the drive, work ethic and ambition for it can elevate themselves to the middle class while the lower class is always there to scare them into keeping the middle class grind going. What is great about American capitalism is that with enough drive (or ruthlessness) anyone can potentially elevate themselves all the way into the upper class, it's not a closed club with entry only for those that are chosen by the royalty but rather anyone that can figure out how to make money can have money and buy an extraordinary standard of living in the upper echelon of society. That lack of motivation from combined fear and enticing reward is IMHO the main reason no "true" communist utopia has been achieved and why all attempts have fallen into generic authoritarianism - without the fear of poverty and/or the dream of wealth there's little to motivate people to keep up the daily grind to keep society chugging and so eventually it always leads to brainwashing and the constant fear of Big Brother lurking over your shoulders ready to punish you for a bad social credit score that keeps it going. When virtually all manual labor jobs can be done by machines,, which though huge strides are being made is still a ways off, then maybe that system could exist without the people having to do the grinding and thus lack of motivation is irrelevant, but theorizing of what could be is like counting the stars or grains of sand in an hourglass. Some day I bet Star Trek will come true and a perceived "utopia" will exist but till then human reality will never be as perfect as some want to imagine it, there's a reason the realists are largely at the top of every society regardless of ideology - human nature is a hard thing to change but simply accepting it can bring great wealth and power.
@@jonnygrey3497 while i don't believe that the youtube comments section is the best for debate, i respectfully disagree. Since you argue about realism, the idea that drive and ambition is what gets you up the ladder is false. Its actually opportunity, often in addition to money that does that. Money buys education, shelter, food, security and other basic necessities. Opportunity is created/seen when people have the luxury not to worry about the basics. So yes, while it is "realistic" that "we can't save 'em all", neither is spending money on yachts. So i respecty disagree that most people on top are realists.
@@jonnygrey3497 Capitalism is quite young. 300 years ago, if you were homeless in a city, you probably just died when winter came and there literally wasn't enough food to go around. Now, the homeless get to suffer instead. I would not be surprised if, in my lifetime, homeless people no longer suffer from lack of shelter/food. There's no fucking way capitalism right now is as good as it gets, not when it is so young in the grand scheme of the human species. Capitalism has changed substantially, and it will continue changing, hopefully improving. Some people are crazy and think that the world they grew up in is how the world will be forever. That's not realism. That's an excuse to ignore the suffering of others. Or, an excuse to be lazy. If the world cannot get better, no use in thinking of how it can change, eh? Lazy!
@@charpkun Only being poor in a city makes you a homeless. In the countryside there will always be a place for you and ways to make a humble, but decent living. No lucusy and waste. Live simple clean.
When people make fun of the Eastern Bloc, they are guaranteed to mention those old Soviet apartment buildings for how ugly they looked. The irony of people in a country with anti-homeless designs making fun of someone for building homes for the poor is not lost on me. (Not defending the USSR here, just saying)
As a New Zealander who's lived in NYC in two 6-month stints in the mid-late 00s - I'll never forget the Disgust I felt when I saw how poorly homeless people are treated by the city.
Chicago does it to, they put fences under underpasses and literal spikes aswell. Only because they dont want homeless people to be seen by drivers. Fucking assholes.
Right, so they move to California, Florida, etc and it keeps these “budgets” high and all the people in charge like their pockets. 1 billion goes to LA for homeless every year and they buy them tent, cheap ones at a whole sale price and give them out, and that’s about it, the rest of the money they keep, instead of putting in place businesses or non profits that could help them and also create jobs…but what do I know, I was homeless and thankfully had family that loved me and helped me through Hard times. 🤷♂️
putting lots of money in inflicting more pain on the "lowest class" instead of using a fraction of that budget to actually solve the problem. great job america! truly the richest country!
@@stupididiot4034 nope, America does this worse than anywhere else. No other country deliberately lets its weak suffer like America. Survival of the richest in action.
Believe it or not as an architecture student we had a whole section dedicated to teaching us how to come up with these 'hostile design' strategies. Fun times....we'll be productive citizens
Damn school systems dont teach you the right things anymore. Im sorry for you man. Im also an art student, just not in architecture. But I feel pain just imagining designing something like that
The real joke is that when you graduate as an engineer, you often take an oath to only create for the benefit and progress for all. While doctors are putti g their victims on ventilators for $$$. And cops are trampling on the constitution. Oath taking has become the new satire.
@@mikel8850 "remember many homeless don't want to get helped". Where are you getting this from? The homeless population are overwhelmingly people with mental illness issues who NEED help....
@@mikel8850 my logic is perfectly fine. I literally quoted you, then made a statement pertaining to the broadest issue of homelessness in general. And no. I did not refute your point outside of your sweeping statement that most don't want to be helped because I agree with the rest of what you said. However I also have to disagree with berating people for raising issue with the air vents as it's just unnecessarily cruel on the homeless that might rely on such things as sources for heat as the help that we argue they do indeed need does not currently exist....
This is what most of people don’t understand. In New York City at least, there is enough housing available for EVERY homeless person living there. That’s not an opinion but an indisputable fact However many of them choose not to take advantage of this because these places have curfews, metal detectors and allow no alcohol or drugs. So most homeless in New York are on the streets by PERSONAL CHOICE. I’m not saying every single homeless person is some drug addict that needs to be met with scorn, but they choose this lifestyle rather than being clean and in an apartment. So that’s on them and they get zero sympathy from me The city is right to be building these structures
@@pugorilla8848 seems like you never been around homeless people and if so it was probably a charity event? Some "homeless" are just lazy people who stand outside with signs wanting money,i seen a old homless man stand up from a wheelchair to go to his 2017 honda with great rims i can say. I know this because i used to kick him and alot others like him.
I had a history teacher in high school who once described America as “gilded”. Gilding is when an object is made of a cheap, usually more durable material, but then coated in a prettier, more expensive metal such as gold to make it look as if the whole object is made of it. I feel like that perfectly describes the nature of people in power who would rather cover up problems and make America look great than actually solve them, and I’ve never really forgot his words.
Maybe they were referring to what Mark Twain called the Gilded Age -- which is basically the late 19th century -- and encompassed all the wealth inequality and bullshit of the time. I definitely see parallels in modern society. The Gilded Silicon Age.
So about a year ago, I managed to injure my leg while playing at a park quite far from home. Naturally I didn't want to walk all the way back, so I went to a nearby bus stop. The next bus would take a bit to arrive, and I had to sit around. The benches there were "homeless-proof"; they were incredibly uncomfortable and at an angle to the wall. I remember having to push my feet against the ground continuously to stay up, which exerted a lot of pressure on my injured leg. Looking back, it was only 10 minutes, but it felt like forever. This leads me to bring up another point against homeless-proof design: it's also incredibly inconvenient *for those who are its intended users*
It’s the total opposite here in California and it doesn’t do much about the homeless problem either. Like you said instead of finding the root cause of the homeless problem, they’re building tiny huts to shelter them in. It does not help, it increases the problem.
Wouldn't it be smarter to make the grates be at a 45 degree angle instead of just curved and slightly lumpy? Not saying I'm for or against it either way, just saying the person who came up with the design did a bad job
*"...the person who came up with the design did a bad job"* To make that assessment, you need to know if the design is achieving the goal of keeping people off of the grates. Also, consider if the *"...curved and slightly lumpy..."* design may have been chosen for some artistic merit.
Artistic my ass, the only artistic design language it says is like "wanna get cozy? yeah? come here, then bam.. slap in the face.. fk off!". It's a trap. What a snob of design.
@@niubilities Art, obviously, is in the eye of the beholder, or so they say. Not my cup of tea either, but art may still have been a consideration in the design.
This is a great idea. Now that the homeless can't lay down on the vents, they'll just have to buy homes. Who knew that ending homelessness would be so easy?
@@kogasoldier9379 Not all jobs require an address. However, if they did, then they could easily just remove that requirement. And yet, they would rather pass vaccine mandates keeping good people from working.
It was weird and sad when we as a society started covering so much of our architecture with bird spikeson every elevated horizontal surface. That we now do the same with the human equivalent on lower surfaces is even more depressing.
@@dfct9494 yes, that's the true issue with homelessness. That it doesn't look good. Not that people are freezing to death on the street of the most wealthy country in human history. Did you even think this comment through?
They put those exact same style things out when I was homeless years ago in the uk. 3 cardboard boxes on them and you're good. You won't feel a thing, as for the wonkiness you can find a comfy spot easy enough, especially after a few beers or a bottle of cheap cider 😉
One of the Blade movies showed how the Vampires attempted to solve the homeless problem. Maybe you could show it to them and see how they react to it! Considering those running your city are Vamps!
The only hostile architecture I like is seeing sharp shattered glass cemented on top of walls that surrounds a house. Looks beautiful and morbid, and would work on discouraging thieves from climbing them
I live in hungary, and i see this sometimes (only at 2-3 houses) in my neighborhood, and i don't live in the worst part of town, like not too much crime happens around here i think.
These are such an iconic representation of the culture we live in. If New York were designed to be homeless proof, it would be designed to decentivize treating land investment like tulips or nfts so rent wouldn't be insane.
If you want something to be homeless proof, you work on making it so that everyone has the opportunity to grow. But yeah. For New York, what you sounds like something they'd do.
Boss: "Alright, we got money from charity for the homeless. What do we use it for??" Employee 1: "Spikes on comfortable sections of the ground!" Employee 2: "Wonky grate covers where warm air pours out!" Employee 3: "Buying cheap homes/residential property and giving the homeless a place to rest" Boss: *throws employee 3 out of the window*
The underpaid Gov contract engineer who had to design and CAD that out probably had a few self reflective cigarette breaks about what they were doing with their life
Can't even begin to understand the sorrow that the homeless must have felt the first time see that their spot has been ruined by these hate grids. Seeing society conspire actively or complicitly against you would fill me with rage, but they can't even afford rage, it probably just adds to their despair...
I’m from nyc and most of these people are mentally ill, they cannot work, they 99% of the time have some sort of drug and alcohol problem. They should help themselves. Kids in nyu Washington sq sell anything, clothes they found, weed, nutcrackers. I don’t want to hear any excuses.
I don't think I've ever seen somebody so sharply acknowledge struggle outside of somebody's hands and then immediately pivit to "They should just fix it themsleves! :)"
@@yallannoying398 fair enough but too be fair the only way to make good money without a job or passive income is selling weed if you dont want to be imprisoned forever if you get caught unless you found one of those secret hustles
This is called Hostile Design... No kidding. It's an actual design field. It includes public benches with separators and little pikes on the ground around shopping centers...
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To answer the most common comment in this comments section, _"Why is this asshole complaining about a problem without proposing a solution?"_ I did, 1 month ago, in a detailed video. See here: ua-cam.com/video/8WGjCeFyr1g/v-deo.html I mentioned that video in this video, and linked it in the description. *Feel free to disagree, or argue against it, but please don't say nothing else has been proposed!* Because I covered what was proposed a long time ago.
I can't explain why a well thought through, well cited video got 7% the views in 2 months that a dumb cellphone rant did in 12 hours. Smarter, more knowledgeable people have discussed this problem and pointed out some really obvious corruption and proposed *specific remedies to it.* I explained why I thought this was a great step forward. It isn't perfect; but it's a start.
The findings don't require genius to understand. I went over how the system currently works, along with the proposed plan to make things better. It's taking an axe to the helpthehomeless-nonprofit-industrial-complex that sucks the taxpayer dry with nothing to show for it.
Citations for that video down below:
twitter.com/thebl0w/status/1418642879111745541
apps.irs.gov/app/eos/detailsPage?ein=133770118&name=The%20H%20E%20L%20P%20USA%20Fund%20Inc.&city=New%20York&state=NY&countryAbbr=US&dba=&type=CHARITIES,%20COPYOFRETURNS&orgTags=CHARITIES&orgTags=COPYOFRETURNS
www.nydailynews.com/new-york/homeless-shelters-founded-cuomo-riddled-violence-article-1.2628746
www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-hevesi-homeless-shelters-cuomo-campaign-donations-20190728-nbr47cqytzdpfdfjtqvdpjiy2q-story.html
www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/laurence-belinsky-well-paid-boss-nonprofit-group-founded-gov-cuomo-resigns-article-1.957177
council.nyc.gov/press/2021/05/25/2092/
Because the yt algorithm loves short ranty videos because they spur more "debate" than a thought out one with arguments that are harder to refute. The algo is smart enough to understand your content now. Deep learning has come so far... More than the average internet troll apparently..
It makes sense for vents to not be obstructed. Homeless people can stay warm in shelters, and if there's not enough, then they should work on that, which doesn't require allowing those people to obstruct vents.
The less effort a video has the easier it is to critique because the video doesn't go out of its way to explain anything, the more effort you put in means more sources or arguments preemptively made more points raised and the amount that can be added or refuted by comment is significantly less, add into the fact is is short so full watch time is basically 100% of the views it's a runaway from comments, rewatching to debate in the comment section, and viewer engagement as a whole, honestly if you want to blow up a video make it 30 seconds long and say something crazy or you want to bury it make it 10hrs and go into such detail people fall asleep. To be clear this video is much closer to the first case hence the views
To be clear, I agree that the officials should do more to improve shelters, but I think you should focus on that instead of complaining about people not being able to obstruct vents. I also think it's reasonable (and common) for people to not want a homeless group right in front of their home because problems can come from that.
(I made a separate comment because edit button isn't working for some reason.)
Since everyone loves China now, and by that I mean the US elite since they sent all the jobs there, NYC could apply the Chinese solution for homeless people . That way we will have more organ donors, hair donors and empty jails, and no homeless. Wait. You did know the Chinese solution right?
It always annoys me when I see cities focusing on keeping homeless people away rather than helping them.
How do you help someone who don't want help? There are MANY people who like that they have no responsibility, bills, or anything else tying them down. They live the ability to travel and see the country. You're assuming that these are victims because you don't approve of their life style. As someone who has been homeless. Trust me tossing money at this issue will fix nothing. Because there are millions of people who don't want a home.
@@JohnGalt916 keep talking, trumptard.
And when you know money isn't a problem and you only need a small percentage of that money to settle the problem.
@@usagifang what conclusion did you come up with to call them a trumptard? Weird insult and proof of idiocy of someone that disagrees with whats right.
@@TheDarkoricle Quite ironic how you target them based on them talking shit about Trump, then go on to say "oh well the guy they insulted was right tho" kinda hypocritical. Yeah, why don't I agree with a guy who unironically believes that people don't want homes. You know? Because logic.
I was homeless as a child. It’s almost unfathomable to believe bc my mother did such a wonderful job of making me feel normal despite homeless shelters. I cannot imagine the otherwise…
Your mother is a hero
I hope your doing better, and kudos to your mom! I hope she is ok too
Unbelievable
@@MisatoBestWoman Holy frick, i thought for a second u typed hoe
You have great mother
There seems to be good money in homelessness, just not for the homeless. I bet that grate cost 25k to design, test, fabricate and install. I'd love to see who got the contract on that.
It was probably a million plus dollar contract when you factor in corruption
$25K/hr for the contract law firm fees, minimum. You're looking at a million bucks in R&D alone right there.
@@newdefsys You are probably right. I'm not calibrated to New York...
@@nickjohnson410 they've been at the laundromat all day. They've been washing money..
All day
25k is peanuts, more ki 500k.
Same happened in Sydney, the city councils decided to make outdoors seats and bus stop areas as uncomfortable for homeless people as possible. Added unnecessary arm rests and lumpy gaps. Yet the root cause of homelessness is never addressed. Often mental health issues going on.
Amsterdam, same
damn fancy seeing you in these comments i watched you alot when i was a kid
It's not really the governments problem to fix mental health issues. At some point the people need to take responsibility for their own actions.
@@gorosaursshut up goofy
@TheChrisUmstadterStupid comment.
I remember that meme where it was like "cutting homeless people in half by 2022" and people were joking about the wording. Ney York would physically cut homeless in half if they could legally get away with it lol.
LOL but I think it was confirmed that said statement was not a real campaign slogan. Too silly to be true
@@Voltaphonic yep yep meme.^ :d
@@Voltaphonic it was by the artist fokawolf, he puts up loads of fake posters around birmingham. You'll always spot one any time you go into digbeth especially.
Just call the Clintons no need for it to be legal
Never heard that
Fun story, there was a guy who was dedicated to creating affordable portable housing for the homeless in California and they shut it down for "not being safe to live in".
@@GoogleDoesEvil they were forced
They were shut down cause they cant tax the houses
What the hell is an affordable portable house? That doesn't solve the problem at all. The problem was never that the homeless didn't have a roof over their head but that there were too many of them in the cities that the cities want to be able to permanently kick out.
@@GeorgeMonet Corrupt politician thinking detected
@@GeorgeMonet if you have a roof and the assurance that your things won't be stolen from you it's easier to find a Job and start saving money to scape poverty. So yes, no having a home is a problem that keep homeless people homeless
"There is no homeless of you don't see them."
- nyc government, probably
What whas that quote? , if you are homeless , yust buy a house !
Some stupid girl on internet.
@@MatteoComensoli If your homeless, Just build a house illegally
Good keep them away
There is no homeless in ba sing se
- three girls
Wow!!!!! Thats a profound statement and very sad!😪
I was homeless in NYC several years ago. I'm a veteran and was in a horribly violent situation. I escaped, but I'll NEVER forget my time in the cold, flagging, holes in my shoes and bruises on my body. Sheer insanity!!! Thank you for posting this! ❤❤❤
how did u end up like that? (just curious)
@@ham_hilton_420 Hes a veteran and was in a horribly violent situation
@@nab4L ur not wrong man 🫡
@@PIPpalaceFX That's what we called "sarcasm".
@@PIPpalaceFX Hey pal, you just blew in from stupid town?
The fact that many homeless people are veterans that served for the same country that also does that to them is absolutely disgusting
What is disgusting is the fact that the states glorify their veterans but after the military service they throw them away like garbage.
Being a veteran myself (along with my son and grandfather), why should WE get taken care of but people who DIDN'T serve not get taken care? We're all humans. There are shitty veterans, good veterans, shitty homeless veterans, and good homeless veterans. ALL veterans get lifetime benefits. The VAST majority of homeless veterans could get a permanent and total unemployability rating and receive $4,000+ PER MONTH, TAX FREE, that includes free public transportation, discounts, and in some states pay no property taxes, and more but they refuse to go through with VA evaluation because most homeless "veterans" are either dishonorably discharged and ineligible for benefits or they have a mental illness and are not wanting help. We need to treat everyone equally and stop putting certain groups on pedestals.
It's a charity for the tax benefits as well. Literal insult
@@rainpain3655 It's much easier to say you'd do something than actually DOING it if your mind is altered.
@@chadcoady9025It's hilarious how psychologically addicted people are now to try to help others then helping their own selves. People now are so dependent of others around them its mind blowing, just world of 5 year olds. I don't understand at all why it would be my responsibility to stop living my own life to help someone else's who can't even help themselves in anything. Yet people out there can't even help themselves in anything to begin with, therefore how are you supposed to help someone else? Only you can help yourself out of your own problems, not other's. If you're a so called grown human being and you still need to be held by the hand by others around you, you never had something that's called discipline and self dependence withing your life.
NYC: Let's attack the homeless together!
Citizen: Don't you mean homeless problem?
NYC: no
To be fair, if all homeless people die, then there is no homelessness. Totally 200IQ decision.
That reminds me of Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog
"I hate homeless"
*switches to the next cue card*
"ness problem in this city"
"We promise to cut all homeless people in half by 2022"
NYC: Wouldn't that fix the problem?
@@ReigoVassal I have a better idea. If all the socialists and corporatists politicians die, then there will be no more homelessness for generations to come.
"Can't have a homeless problem if they all freeze to death"
-New York City
I mean, they're right... If you have trash you go and take it out,you won't keep it in the house + we're overpopulated for about 3 bil. so...
Let nature take its course
Based
@@lad4830 the thing about the overpopulation myth is that it’s only a problem insofar as more people means more resources being consumed, and I don’t know if you noticed but homeless people don’t generally consume a lot of resources.
Trust Burgers to justify people freezing to death because their media says we're becoming overpopulated. You people are un fucking real.
I guess nobody actually realizes that fabricating this uncomfortable geometry triples the cost of those items. Guess who pays for it? YOU!
I don't pay tax, I'm a tax evader
@@GuyRandomLoLbased
@@GuyRandomLoLdoubtful
paying money to get rid of eyesore bums, i'll take that deal.
@@Augustus1001pretty sure most of those around you would gladly pay a hefty sum to get rid of you as well
We need itemized audits of where our money goes, from the federal to local levels. It’s ridiculous how we give our hard earned money to thieves in suits and never once request a receipt
We don't Give it, the money is stolen.
you are to pay them at gunpoint, there is no give.
Give? No friendo it’s at gun point. Don’t pay your taxes armed lawmen will come to your house and put you behind bars and if you so much as resist boom you got a gun in your face.
No, you need to start applying medication i 556 or 756 doses to those people in charge.
Those thieves don't pay anything funnily enough. Same with billionaires.
When I was young I was hired as a guard to keep people off the grates on my overnight shift on 7th avenue and 47 street. All they wanted to do is stay warm at 2am-4am, so I would allow them. People with kids, people alone, I mean so many people you wouldn't expect are homeless, the only deal I asked was to be gone by 4am and head to another spot, so my boss wouldn't catch em and fire me.
Doing the lords work. Homelessness is becoming more and more of a pandemic.
you did good lad
Only if people like you were in charge
You're a good dude
Thank you
gives new meaning to "the city that never sleeps"
Grate analogy !
😄
Brilliant comment.
Nice lol
I live in chicago, and frankly, I’m blown away.
The most infuriating aspect is that these things cost more than a normal vent covers / benches. The same applies to all the other so-called "hostile architecture" installments. So, not only are the people who install them refusing to help the poor, they actually pay money to make their life even more miserable. Therefore, i refer to those things not as "hostile architecture" but as "sadistic architecture".
I'm not sure that's even legal. Those benches cannot comply with ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act).
Local authorities spend vastly, vastly more money in punishing homeless people for simply existing than they ever would do if they did anything to help accommodate and help them move out of their situation.
@@FastBowtie388Theyre vents, not benches
@@FastBowtie388they literally are making the side pavement under bridges into spikes now.... Im serious.
@@ZeallustImmortaltheyre doin it with benches too. The original commenter did list vents....
If these where made in Poland, the homeless people would dismount it and sell it at scrapyard.
Lmao and they'd certainly get away with it too
True
@@ManLikeEddy They would 'cause how do you want to punish them? :D
Same in my country. But first it will be low quality in the first place because of the people organizing it putting the money into their pockets.
Devious lick at a higher level
This falls under the category of "hostile design" and there are many examples of it, such as pigeon spikes, making surfaces that were flat sloped so people cant sit on it, and adding little brass bumps to short walls so skateboarders cant grind on them.
Good. Fuck homeless and fuck manchildren on their tiny wheeled boards.
Some of your examples are perfectly fair. Not having pigeons perch in spots where they can shit on your patrons is pretty reasonable. Preventing skateboarders from grinding YOUR property is fine too. This is coming from someone who did grinds. Not all of these designs were made with malicious intent, so be careful what you use to make a point.
@@MrSatchelpack yeah these people simply dont understand shit about the real world lmao
Homeless people still use these on cold days. They have rolled up foam camping mattresses.
@@MrSatchelpack true, bit making the ground slope so people can't comfortably sit on the ground seems excessive. But idk maybe there's a situation where it's necessary?
"There is nothing more permanent than a temporary solution."
-Russian Proverb
Nice
"The worse, the better." Another Russian classic.
Детерминизм это Свобода 🤙
lame
Ooooooooof, ouch.
The best part of this is that, despite however many millions this somehow cost, it isn’t going to stop anyone. A couple of blankets or a few pieces of cardboard plus a bit of positioning is all it takes to overcome that. Plus if you’re actually freezing, a little discomfort is not a problem.
They look more usable than a flat, sidewalk level grate.
I highly doubt it cost millions to design and make that. Maybe 1k top.
You’re crazy $1000?? The design fees alone for the drafting and development gotta be several thousand. Actually producing it probably over a thousand for like 10 feet of it
@@UA-camCommenter7402when the government is paying the winning design will usually be someone involved with the committee choosing the design and suddenly a £10,000 ,design is valued as 1 000 000
@@UA-camCommenter7402the cost of labor alone to build one of these is easily over $1k. Add an additional $1k minimum for installation. Then add hundreds of thousands for R&D, hundreds of thousands for permits & licensing, hundreds of thousands to hire an attorney to draft necessary paperwork, and that is just the tip of the iceberg. This would easily cost $10 million as a city-wide project
When they were told to combat the homelessness, they took it in a literal sense
I thought that said liberal not literal the first time I read it😆
There is plenty room in homeless shelters
@@jacobj6376 There actually isn't. a lot of them are over crowded and COVID doesn't help.
@@thatscrazy6373 Did you just pull that out of your ass? The point of these structures are to get them off the streets and into to shelters and then on to secure housing. During covid they were spread out among hotels and shelters to stop the spread.
@@jacobj6376 yeah, plenty of room for drug addicts who will steal the shoes right off your feet!
“Defensive” architecture is in many many cities and it’s subtle if not invisible to the untrained eye
Maybe if you're low IQ.
"Invisible to the untrained eye?" I've seen many, and I'm no super-sleuth. They're super-obvious.
Defensive makes it sound like the city is under attack. Aggressive would be more accurate. The city is actively antagonizing the local homeless population.
@@measlesplease1266 mediocre try, troll! 😂
@@TKnightcrawler how did you become aware of them in the first instance? I think the majority of people are almost completely unawares, based on 6 years or so living in London…
In Nashville they started putting in wheelchair accessible benches. It’s like a bench but you cut out the middle of it… in all reality it’s really an anti homeless bench.
This might sound insensitive but I'm genuinely curious as to the purpose of "Wheelchair Accessible benches" are... because they're already sitting down in the wheel chair. Most of them are really comfortable a soft and have a hand brake of sorts... I don't know, I just don't see a use for it. Especially since it sounds like more effort for someone who lost the use of their legs to move to the bench from a wheelchair
@@geek4306 the only argument is if the bench has a rain/ sun cover over it otherwise they could have just put it at the end of the bench. or even at both ends.
@@Kittsuera yeah, that makes more sense to me, thank you
@@geek4306 Honestly, I’m pretty sure it’s less of a comfortability thing and more of a relaxation type of thing. Sometimes they just want to get out of their wheelchairs to sit on a bench just for the satisfaction and relief. Now that shit where they literally cut holes in the sides of benches is kinda stupid.
@@H0DAX1 I can imagine that if they were with family, theyd want to maybe sit next to them or something, I don't know but making a gap in the middle sounds stupid
America, the country all about human rights and freedom, what a wonderful sighting to see!
Ah yes you will
@InsertYTHandleHere it's about happiness. West people love money more than else, even if it was all just fake relationship they'll be happy.
only an american would believe that.
Lol, what a wonderful sight to behold.
This has actually a name: hostile architecture. Many places in-especially-big cities are designed to keep people away or at least to have them hang out for the shortest time possible.
I've noticed seating in some big name restaurants are the same. Pay for your food, eat, and gtfo.
Well, I no longer pay for their food now, have fun paying the bills.
That's f*** ed up.. is there any humanity left??😓
Some call it "defensive architecture" but I like hostile better. It's a little more accurate.
I don't see much hostile architecture in my area but, if I go to Houston or Dallas it becomes way more apparent. It is a poor plan and solves nothing and it generally implemented to hide a problem cheaply instead of addressing it. Also I don't like restaurants that use it in their seating as they generally have poor quality food and even worse service.
Property value jumps into my mind. Also half the poor are not homeless so much as jobless. The other half are dangerous. Half the poor myself included needs to figure something out...the other half tough shit. They sure as hell don't give a damn bout how u feel kiddo. Just saying.
This is what happens in a country that views homeless people as the problem and not homelessness itself.
well said yo!
Exactly.
There is enough money for giving some roof and food
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No no, it's not the country itself, but the city. Liberal politicians to be exact. You don't see this problem ANYWHERE that has a conservative governor.
@@thecomedypilot5894 because red states have way less people. NYC is extremely dense, which drives up land value, which increases homelessness. whenever conservatives are in charge of running major metropolitan areas instead of rural towns, its a disaster.
if democrats were actually progressive they would implement the extremely successful anti-homelessness policies we see in countries like finland and denmark, but then low iq republicans would call it communism.
“If we make them all freeze to death, there won’t be as many homeless people! 😃👍” -nyc
I mean... It's a solution, just not a humane one
Let's just drop agent orange across the country too, that will help with over population.. we are supposed to be helping the situation not worsening it
homeless solution engineer..... 1 award earned.
I’m going to quote a comedian who talked about this. It’s not homelessness it’s house less ness a home is a state of being a state of mind a home is a physical tangible Structure
I mean it's all a question of do the ends justify the means?
Thank you so much for treating people who have hit rock bottom, whose lives are basically living hell and are struggling to survive one more day like absolute shit.
Now they'll never try to feel like they deserve to be treated kindly ever again!
That'll teach em!
Homeless person: *_being homeless_
Government: *_installs specific designed grates to solve "homelessness"_
Homeless person: "Gee, thanks Government. I'm not homeless anymore!"...
Homeless person: "Just kidding. I'm even more homeless now."
Because he got in the casket... do they even do that for the poor?
I honestly don't think that's the purpose for these designs. Some of the homeless would stay homeless if they had an apartment to go to, it's a mental disorder. I'm sure there are residential buildings where families prefer not to walk out to a drugged-up herd of homeless out their front door. I get having compassion for the homeless, but it goes both ways.
@@Jkief123 of course, but I'm sure the general majority are not enjoying homelessness. Of course we get that, but homelessness is a debilitating situation to be in and we would be doing a better job trying to get those we can help out of it rather than dealing with the un-comfortability of seeing them. One is dealing with the root cause whilst the other is like a band-aid on a festering sore (just cosmetic really solves nothing).
@@Jkief123 yeah, maybe we should just let them die instead of helping them rehabilitate. There's a lot money can do, you just have to be smart about it.
“No we can’t kill homeless people for being homeless.”
“Fine! What if they freeze to death?”
“We aren’t going to lock them in freezers!”
“I have a better idea.”
“Is it a war crime?”
“Not the first time.”
Listen here, what if we...
Inconvenience those who have lost hope in life and everything they have that's gone get taken away too 👌
@@ronn6771 see he gets it.
My state governor just demoted the homeless shelter that had 500 rooms in 2019 for profiting income apartment by billionaire developers and left thousand homeless families frozen to death through the harsh winter. When we stands up to protest then we got arrested for "illegal late-night" or loitering, lol.
Wasn't first they used police to kick them out when they have nowhere to go home to.
Remember how would you want to be treated if you were homeless
Now they can still place planks over the spikes underneath bridges as well as between those protrusions where the air can still come through and put cardboard on top of that then lay down to keep warm for where there is a Will there is a way.” Keep this in mind before you M.A.D. satanist get anymore ideas.”
NYC really just said “If you’re homeless, just buy a [pent]house” without really saying it.
I mean I understand why your angry but you have to think about the non homeless people who’ve been harassed by the homeless . These homeless have problems man 🤦🏽♂️. They harass a lot of people due drugs, envy, all sorts reasons. Heck some homeless people may rob people so I can’t call nyc terrible you know what I’m saying but the city should put there energy into helping the homeless rather than “evicting” the homeless but I do know you can’t just enable homeless people because it’ll lead to problems like Chicago for example. Chicago has a homeless people problem and it’s disgusting and filled with feces and pee. So you just can’t enable the homeless living near the communities nobody would want that in there neighborhoods.
@@vlahblah4785 wow. Thanks for using logic and critical thinking unlike 90% of the comments.
Imagine paying 2200 or more a month in rent only to be harassed or assaulted by a crazy person that resides down on your side walk.
That’s a good way to lose a whole lot of revenue.
I feel for the mentally ill homeless but any other, if theirs a will theirs a way, like idk.. moving to an affordable city to build your life back up 🤷🏽♂️
@@anthonyfletcher8053 you've never experienced what they do and likely never will. You did not make yourself who you are today on your own.
Be grateful and pay it forward.
@@ewokshoterz as someone who’s lived in nyc for a bit to study, i can say that it’s somewhat concerning seeing these people on the streets. Not only is it obviously bad for them, but it’s also bad for the people who live there. I’ve had pretty poor experiences with people, even when minding my own business. Especially if you refuse to give them something IF they ask, some people just shrug it off, others take it the wrong way. It’s also a cause for paranoia ngl, I’ve had someone follow me around for a bit before i got onto campus grounds. I know majority of homeless people aren’t that bad, but it’s the ones who do things like that who cause concern.
Holy shit. People here really hate homeless. I guess they have never been hungry or cold before.
They don't want to fix it ..
No city does ,they just want them to go somewhere else.
this is called hostile architecture and it's actually quite common. Examples of hostile architecture include spikes under bridges, spikes in benches, removing benching areas, and much more.
Seattle has many of the spikes
Anything to make protests less common.
So because the government hates the homeless I can’t sit and relax at the park?! That’s stupid!
@@jacobc8036 ngl the government are just encouraging people to paint a worse picture of america
Im siding with the government on this one cause what they did is pretty funny
This is a “hostile architecture” perfect example, there’s plenty of documentation about these devices in urbanistics and sociology books. Humans can be so dishumans.
That’s a whole nother field bro holy shit
Ok boomer
I support anti homeless architecture, I don't want to see lazy, drug addicted homeless people in my town when I go out.
@@twistedgrillz7729 ok then what about the ones who are trying rise above the poverty line but are down on their luck at the moment? They too need a place to lay even for a moment.
Because when I walk downtown, I obviously don't want to spend my time around a bunch of homeless people.
NYC: " I have an idea to help homelessness."
Batman: "Oh."
NYC: "We can hire them to install architecture all over the city."
Batman: "Hmm like what kind of architecture?"
NYC: "Like the kind that hurts"
Batman: " Thats it im going back to Gotham our Psychos are on the streets, yours are in charge"
This is one of, if not the most cringe comment ive seen on UA-cam to date.
Why is batman here
@@doctorfeelgood2670 While it's certainly not the best comment of any sort, I would argue that it is not BY FAR the "most cringe" comment on UA-cam... I've seen some shit man
its called hostile architecture at where im from
Thought it was a sick skateboard rail from the thumbnail
lol
I bet those *authorities* were also thinking like; *"why can't homeless people just buy a home?"*
No shit bro
Fr bruh😔
Then they go " *just get a loan to buy a home and work the debt off* "
Not really realizing what they suggest is essential impossible, or if it does work, then they'll never be able to pay it off and be basically working for the bank just paying off "interest".
If u r homeless, buy a home. That was trending once
"why don't they just get a job?"
When I was homeless in Denver, we built igloos and heated them with candles and body heat. Works like a charm. It even had a PVC line taking sewage to a grate 30 yards away. We'd "flush" the toilet by pouring water down the line from a five gallon bucket.
Ya surprisingly igloos have like amazing insolation
Heeeyyy Denver street community represent! Amazingly deep culture, really. People underestimate how rich the social history of the street and traveler subculture is.
Small problem, snow falls like once a month in NYC, and hardly enough to make any sort of igloo
@Bing Bong wow
@@KitttyEnvy once a month? It should only snow 1 a year and that's during g December.
Homeless man with a pillow: my power is more then you can ever imagine
I might start giving homeless people pillows now 🤔
@@MyDogIsYoshi theres a way to knit plastic grocery bags into a makeshift mattress pad, it could help as well as reduce waste
Than*
@@sixfeetundertheradar6080 dude in my new apartment that I'm watching for my brother cause people keep breaking in, I found a full on twin sized grocery bag mattress and it was the coolest thing I've seen in a while. Some serious ingenuity!
@@MyDogIsYoshi or food or something that can help them get back on their feet and into a real job.
And what happens if you block ventilation for a closed subway system…
kinda true
Yeah, that's much more serious issue than a few homelessngetting cold.
@@HyperOpticalSaint to the new york government it apparently is 😔
Yeah tbh I don't think people realize that 😂
If it weren't for the grate, that looks like it would be extremely comfortable
Maybe for some minutes at best. That would hurt your spine really bad and become unbearable after a while.
I know a few women that would enjoy sitting on the raised parts 🙈
@@dragzgaming man wut
@@dragzgaming💀
If you have something to lay on it's not so bad. Plus like he said it keeps you from freezing to death.
Government: “How do we deal with homeless?”
Citizen: “How about funding shelters and foundations?”
Government: *”Lmfao how about we just make their lives an even grander hell…”*
I mean the poor is government
What does this have to do with the government
@@harlow8577 they make u paying taxes
@@harlow8577 Lol, whut? What this has to do with the government? The construction crew just built this from nothing then?
My governor just demoted a homeless shelter that had over 500 rooms for profiting. That conservative-pro-life governor.
Just want to point out that building more shelters won't do much. Many homeless people refuse or don't qualify because you'll be drug tested and have to remain sober.
"They gotta try something else if they don’t wanna die"
- The city
Ya, like actually getting a job
@@Lxndon11 Exactly bro if you have nothing,then just stop being poor like why doesn’t anybody think of that? If you’re poor just…..stop being poor.
@@soggybreh810 Indeed. All the people who got kicked from their jobs and can't find new work too. Just find work! It's that easy. You are on the streets because you were laid off? Go get a job!
@@soggybreh810
I can't mad because I didn't want a whoosh. But here we are, found some refference from dumbass Twitch Thots
@@nuubier8911 literally what I was thinking, covid just happened, how is this not a more understood topic now.
Thank you for speaking out on this. It disgusts me how the government and people in general view the homeless. They're STILL PEOPLE. No one wants to struggle to survive... not knowing when your next meal will be and being in harsh conditions with no shelter... People fail to realize that addiction, mental illness, and the cost of living are the root causes of homelessness. And it can happen to ANYONE. They're worthy of respect and basic human needs/rights just like anyone else.
It doesn't happen yo anyone and people always view that way about the homeless
@@assassin8636Bro posting from mommy's basement
@@assassin8636Anyone can become addicted. Inflation is inevitable, and if you don’t work enough or don’t get enough money it can happen to you too.
@@JustSomeKittenwithaGunchildren on the internet were a mistake
Ah, hostile architecture. My 'favorite' example is probably a gap in the middle of a bench for 'people in wheelchairs' (as if theres a deficit of places to sit while in a wheelchair...)
Hostile architecture. Is my dystopian Techno band. We all go on stage as homeless people.
😂 you got me with the contents of the parentheses
Might as well get rid of the bench at that point
Don’t think I have seen this before unless i don’t get what you mean. But another “popular” one is the ridges on seat of benches. Not the one to deter skateboarding, but the weird leg molds some have. Can’t lay down on those. Also, needless armrest dead center of bench.
Are you shitting me tax payers money has bought chairs with slits in for a wheel chair ?????
Hostile, antagonistic architecture has been plaguing this city for years. Designing uncomfortable benches that you can't lie down on, covering any surface you might stop to rest on with spikes, and just simply removing benches.
As I get older and less physically fit and agile, I've noticed this not so subtle command to keep it moving. The landlords, the lords of the land, don't want you to be able to rest, to loiter, to stop and smell the flowers or feel the breeze. If you want to enjoy existence, you're gonna have to pay. No free rest and relaxation for you. The city is like a penitentiary for the poor and less able bodied.
You wouldn't really need the benches if you were fit.
@@mortaldeity1922 well not everybody is fit. Old people exist. Sick people exist. Disabled people exist. Do they not deserve the same accessibility and comfort of your everyday, "fit" person? I thought society was working towards treating people equally. Huh
@@mortaldeity1922 Aren't you helpful? Not to mention clever. Way to make that connection.
But as people try to get back in shape, they may need a place to rest while exercising, or walking around. Public space should be beneficial and comfortable for the public. Wrapping everything in spikes and barbed wire is not a good look for a civil society. Disabling benches and places to rest (or skate on, or whatever) is not the answer.
Hopefully you will be fit forever, and never get sick. Or hopefully you'll die young, and leave a pretty corpse, instead of getting old and breaking down. Either way, good luck to you, keen observer and captain of the obvious.
@@mortaldeity1922 just be young. Don’t be old 🤪🤪
@@supereggtartersauce6464 wish I could
Everyone: Let's get rid of homelessness.
NYC: Get rid of the homeless? Okay!
They not all pent houses, they're regular apartments and houses thats just really really really expensive
@@peterpiper1 Sorry, Piper. This comment had nothing to do with that.
@@LinKueiDragon ye he was probably referring to the comment below this one
They aren't trying to get rid of homelessness, they are trying to remove people causing an inconvience by having bulk people stand on property; Use common ense
@@LoomiYT and making their life more miserable because they're such a cry baby? "Common sense"
"If you're homeless, just buy a house"
- A Legendary Girl on the Internet
NEVER HAD so many likes on a comment, it really made my day everyone! Thanks y'all♥️
Thats the classic karen parenting.
But people like that still in goverment.
Who elected them?
Who gave them chances to be stupid?
Cringeonomics
smartest idea ever sheeeeeeesshhhhhhh
What's wrong in it?
a man of culture i see
I mean, let's be honest: the people who actually run the city would rather just kill homeless off than do anything to help them.
Well yeah no shit.
Why we accept it tho?? The power in the people frfr
@@Patel-Chirag-Gupta cause majority of them accept their homelessness rather than do anything about it
Lemme guess, too much paperwork
@Lane AWD only way I could agree with housing for homeless people is if it has rules like no alcohol/drugs and you would have to have a job in 1-3 years.
It’s called “dark design”. Saw a small exhibition about it in a museum. It’s when a city is designed in a way to reject certain people. It is also called “defensive design”, which it is called in an attempt to justify doing and dehumanise those that it is used against
*those are enemies of god who will bathe in fiery rocks from up above when the time comes. Each wrathful missile from the divine is programmed with inherent intelligence and will not miss its target. They will have subzero shelter or safety during the worst possible storm to befall mankind. Enmity with God is the stupidest move a human can make.*
Thanks for that explanation, very interesting, you’ve sent me on a quest for more on this. Can you remember where the exhibition was held?
@@stitchtehzombie7420 It looks repulsive. There’s a hunger strike group in tents going on for the Irish homeless in Dublin City center, look it up. I hope they are listened to this time.
How dare people not want violently unstable drug addicts living in front of their homes.
@@RabbiHerschel No we get it but there’s better ways to do the job.
"Oh shoot! They made an anti-homeless design! I guess I can't be homeless no more!"
reminds me of that prison in texas that spent 10 years and over $20,000 defending a lawsuit from a wool-allergic prisoner that wanted a non-wool blanket instead of just buying him a non-wool blanket. continue to inflict suffering at any cost
That's what happens when people or institutions hold on stupidly on their pride instead of showing compassion.
He can buy his own blanket. It's prison, not a holiday camp.
Stupid thing is, synthetic fibre blankets are a lot cheaper than pure wool
@@illegalopinions4082 but they would literally save money with a fiber blanket over the wool one he had. no need to spend 20k of my tax money
@@creamycream7081 Unless I'm mistaken it sounds like they're arguing over the precedent of whether or not prisons have to make adjustments for the prisoner. It may have been cheaper but then it opens up up whole bag of worms for literally every other prisoner.
Plus in this instance if the prisoner was allergic to the blanket they should've brought their own one. If they had no money they could've used alternatives, like the shedts I'm assuming they had no problem with, and worked to buy one that suited him. It certainly would've been cheaper on the prisoner's side if they ponied up for a lawyer to argue the point.
Its understandable that they may have been blocking the ventilation but an easy solution to that would be to cover the vents with a similar architecture but instead have the top be flat and have openings on the side so the air can still pass through that way
If they had that much brains to think of that, they would have solved the homeless problem years ago
or even better! have slits from all sides!
Ok, go out and do that to every single vent in new york then.
It would also ruin the point of raising them in the first place though, since they are made that tall to prevent water from getting in. So holes on the side would allow water to get in.
@@dfct9494 damn, if only there was an architectural invention that helped humans keep water off of things. Like, idk, an outcrop on some kind of overhanging ledge of some variety that slopes water away.. alas! If only someone could invent such a thing and put it on top of all our buildings!
Problem: Homelessness
Solution: Make the city hostile to human life.
"What if we just got rid of the homeless people? Then there wouldn't be any more homelessness!" - almost certainly someone, in a serious manner
You can always round them up and ship them off to inturnment camps there they will be " off the streets" and the so called charity's can provide "Services" mental health screenings, employment training to become productive members of society, drug and alcohol treatment
ehab and once they are "Clean & Sober" put them to work in factory or farm labor.
Those found to be too mentally ill will be institutionalized for the "Greater Good of Society"
How's *That* for a solution to the "homeless problum?"
It kinda is already what w all the death machines rolling around
@@rickcoona Ah yes, the solution to homelessness, *GULAGS*
@exposing truth Internment camp is also where they put American soldiers & American prisoners of war captured by the Imperial Japanese army during ww2 in basically hitler style concentration camp to torture and kill them...
What do New Yorkers do who complain about this? Move to cities like Austin and turn them into New York!!!! Yayyy!!!
Good example of hostile architecture. Tons of this stuff can be found across large urban areas with a big homeless population. I see them in Seattle all the time. It's also funny how well they design these things so that it looks more like a stylish thing at first glance, so that most people don't realize the true intent behind it.
oh this is only the start, wait till you see them give orders to find and kick every homeless person off of every popular block in NY.
Horrible to the homeless,!
I live in the Seattle area and yeah the homeless here get mistreated pretty bad. Especially how many homeless there is now compared to 10 years ago.
It's good. Homeless people need to go use the shelters instead of taking over the streets doing drugs and yelling at people..
@@LuvThyMind29 Here's the thing: you don't fucking know what you're talking about.
Politicians probably:
"If all the homeless people freeze to death, nobody will be homeless.
Problem solved everyone, can I buy another Yaht now"?
Genius, you are genius
Ever thought about running for president because you my friend seems to have a bright future ahead of you as a politician
Just make sure you mark that Yacht as a "business expense" for some charity you run and you're all set bud.
HOMELESS DESERVE TO BE HOMELESS
@@virajgoonerarsenal8022 I mean, it's in there name. Who are we to take away the identity of a homeless person? If they're not homeless then what would they be? "Homed", it just dosen't have the same ring to it.
Plus, if we actually fixed the homeless problem then how could I buy my second Yaht?
There ware way more of these “anti homeless” designs outside major banks such as chase. They would place small iron spikes around the banks to prevent people from sitting on it.
That is a hell of a lot different, thats a professional institution, where people are taking out money, this is a city problem in the video
It’s the city that never sleeps. Idk what the commotion is about.
those spikes also make it anti-senior citizen. In a way it’s a rather shtty thing to do if somebody old just wants a place to sit for a moment and catch their breath.
@@georgieman1910 or maybe just anti-pigeon. cause there are a lot of pigeons, and generally that's what small metal spikes are for
If there were a Hell, the people who put those in would lie on them for eternity.
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If you're from New York, this is literally your tax dollars hard at work. I laugh when I see cities do shit like this. Not because it's funny, but because a group of people, actually got together and decided thay this was the best way to deal with the homelessness issue. It's like putting a band-aid on a severed artery
More like prying it open with two cleavers
Band aid would help it by miniscule amounts, this is more like trying to removd the blood from the artery so it stops bleeding
It's cheaper to prevent it than actually spend money resolving the issue
@@Naz34452 it isn't even preventing anything though, it's just pushing the problem down the street to another area. It's almost as useful as literally burning money
america earned money by spending money
At this rate "we will cut homeless in half" meme is close to reality
I defended a homeless man in London from police bullying him to go away.
@@HOLLASOUNDS nice
@@HOLLASOUNDS round of applause
@@HOLLASOUNDS good job doing good for the world & that guys life 💯
I do like how they view homeless folks essentially recycling energy so they won't freeze to death as a big problem.
It's all about the optics to them.
"Heeey... They're getting to live for _free!"_
Under capitalism there is extra cruelty and inhumanity for people who are not consumers
@@ststst981 Explain.
@@harleyrdr1 basically if you don't buy into the system the system fucks you
Imagine wanting to make people's lives harder who's lives are already hard. This is unbelievable. There's no humanity. This is kaliyug.
For those who don't know, it's called "Hostile Architecture".
Although the name might be confusing to some people and they think it's something bad
@@Andre-ih8rv it IS something bad.
@@Andre-ih8rvit is bad
@@Somethingelse506 I think it’s sarcasm.
I call it a waste of taxpayers money.
You can tell he's a real new yorker just by how frickin fast he walks off mid video
I came to the comments for this reason 😂
He took off! And it was so abrupt.
I try and learn something g new every day, this is what I learned today.. "how to recognize a New Yorker"
As someone who walks relaxed most of the time that was the first thing I notice
Hes walking slow
The irony of the "Promised Land" sign on the corner he's walking towards.
They promised the land, they just won't deliver it.
@@BillAnt Homeless people eat good in America and have access to good drugs. Do you realize our homeless in America are better off than citizens in other countries?
@@NinjaSushi2 kinda true, I'd rather be homeless in America than a factory worker in china
Promised to work your ass off just to live
@@NinjaSushi2 Yeah but also, they're homeless. I'm not sure why so many people like comparing countries to see which one is worse to justify the other one. Downplaying a serious problem helps no one.
I can sort of see the logic of it. The vent is there for a reason; if the vents are covered by mattresses or cardboard, then it isn't a vent any more. You wouldn't install a vent or grill in your flat and design it in such a way that it was easy to block it would you! Having said that, there should be warm dry places for rough sleepers to shelter.
There are 39,000 vents in the city, many of them being unblockable already since they're hidden in fake facade buildings, I doubt it was any sort of blockage issue for the vent system.
The MTA's stated reason was anti-flooding, which is why they're not flush with the sidewalk anymore, but they don't mention the hostile architecture features.
I'm curious to see when they will release some electroshock drones that can simply target and chase out the homeless.
Don't give them any ideas!!
If cops are drones, then they already do that (Lamport Stadium, Alexandra Park, Trinity Bellwoods - all 2021)
Idea for a TV show
Those will keep my baseball bat busy and my knife cutting notches
I mean, why spend money on fancy drones when the cops can just go out and spray them with cold water like they normally do at night?
I love how sarcastic that sign at the end that said "The Promised Land" felt
"The promise of never living happily"
@@kingding9542 This is the problem, even the guy who posted the video doesn't know or care about what that ventilation structure actually is, he's saying "i don't know it comes from subway or something".
So do you think the engineers would design and drill and make this structure just because they have nothing else to do?
That is a crucial engineering element of the system so if people were to block it it wouldn't function.
@@user-ou2md4nr4ywhile that might be true, this is just one of many examples, anti-homeless designs are everywhere, besides if they invested into making it work for both rather than yaknow, hate, they couldve solved it better.
They're not solving the "Homeless" problem; they're solving the "seeing the Homeless" problem.
Smelled them first, I'm near sighted.
If I may shed a light on the perspective of the western "elites" which I have some personal "education" of their views on - they genuinely have no desire to ever fix the homeless problem because they don't view it as a problem but as a necessary evil, they don't want them dirtying up the main city streets but they do want them in the alleys and under the bridges and so forth, mostly out of sight but always a ghost in the background.
They are realists who believe there will always be those that can't function in and will suffer in any society of any construct but capitalism is the best system for raising the common standards of living for all of society - and there must be 3 classes - upper, middle and lower. Survival of the fittest means those who have the drive, work ethic and ambition for it can elevate themselves to the middle class while the lower class is always there to scare them into keeping the middle class grind going.
What is great about American capitalism is that with enough drive (or ruthlessness) anyone can potentially elevate themselves all the way into the upper class, it's not a closed club with entry only for those that are chosen by the royalty but rather anyone that can figure out how to make money can have money and buy an extraordinary standard of living in the upper echelon of society.
That lack of motivation from combined fear and enticing reward is IMHO the main reason no "true" communist utopia has been achieved and why all attempts have fallen into generic authoritarianism - without the fear of poverty and/or the dream of wealth there's little to motivate people to keep up the daily grind to keep society chugging and so eventually it always leads to brainwashing and the constant fear of Big Brother lurking over your shoulders ready to punish you for a bad social credit score that keeps it going.
When virtually all manual labor jobs can be done by machines,, which though huge strides are being made is still a ways off, then maybe that system could exist without the people having to do the grinding and thus lack of motivation is irrelevant, but theorizing of what could be is like counting the stars or grains of sand in an hourglass.
Some day I bet Star Trek will come true and a perceived "utopia" will exist but till then human reality will never be as perfect as some want to imagine it, there's a reason the realists are largely at the top of every society regardless of ideology - human nature is a hard thing to change but simply accepting it can bring great wealth and power.
@@jonnygrey3497 while i don't believe that the youtube comments section is the best for debate, i respectfully disagree. Since you argue about realism, the idea that drive and ambition is what gets you up the ladder is false. Its actually opportunity, often in addition to money that does that. Money buys education, shelter, food, security and other basic necessities. Opportunity is created/seen when people have the luxury not to worry about the basics.
So yes, while it is "realistic" that "we can't save 'em all", neither is spending money on yachts. So i respecty disagree that most people on top are realists.
@@jonnygrey3497 Capitalism is quite young. 300 years ago, if you were homeless in a city, you probably just died when winter came and there literally wasn't enough food to go around. Now, the homeless get to suffer instead. I would not be surprised if, in my lifetime, homeless people no longer suffer from lack of shelter/food. There's no fucking way capitalism right now is as good as it gets, not when it is so young in the grand scheme of the human species. Capitalism has changed substantially, and it will continue changing, hopefully improving.
Some people are crazy and think that the world they grew up in is how the world will be forever. That's not realism. That's an excuse to ignore the suffering of others. Or, an excuse to be lazy. If the world cannot get better, no use in thinking of how it can change, eh? Lazy!
@@charpkun Only being poor in a city makes you a homeless. In the countryside there will always be a place for you and ways to make a humble, but decent living. No lucusy and waste. Live simple clean.
When people make fun of the Eastern Bloc, they are guaranteed to mention those old Soviet apartment buildings for how ugly they looked.
The irony of people in a country with anti-homeless designs making fun of someone for building homes for the poor is not lost on me.
(Not defending the USSR here, just saying)
From the video, we can see that NYC is interested in soulless Soviet design.
@@BloodwyrmWildheartall the bad with none of the good
And also the same people complaining about commie blocks live in suburban hellholes 😂
Very good observation
Both economically far-left and far-right architectures are idiotic
As a New Zealander who's lived in NYC in two 6-month stints in the mid-late 00s - I'll never forget the Disgust I felt when I saw how poorly homeless people are treated by the city.
It’s the same in all country. South Korea, Japan.. etc.. they were treated like subhuman
@@romella_karmey America is very bad for a developed country.
Stay in your country then
See how your old PM treated those who wanted basic human rights.
treated bad? yeah, worse than this shit? probably not
The homeless problem is a tragedy in this country and I hope we fix it one day, but I want to point out that you walk so freaking fast dude holy shit.
U SURE ABT THAT? R U SURE THAT U DIDNT WATCHED THIS VDO AT 2X SPEED?😂
@@MINEWISE r/ihadastroke
@@rebeccaoertell6941 ???
im walkin ere
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Just so everyone's aware, "hostile architecture" is by no means limited to these grates or NYC.
I didnt even know "hostile architecture" was a thing. Its aweful.
they can always move
Chicago does it to, they put fences under underpasses and literal spikes aswell. Only because they dont want homeless people to be seen by drivers. Fucking assholes.
That’s for birds.
ingenious* architecture
World: "How is New York dealing with homeless people ?"
NYC: "Lets make homeless people lives even harder"
So you just want homeless people to camp in front of public places and homes. Just because "we are all equal"?
NYC be like: there won't be a homeless problem if all the homeless will freeze to death
@@mihan2d Modern problems require modern solutions
Right, so they move to California, Florida, etc and it keeps these “budgets” high and all the people in charge like their pockets. 1 billion goes to LA for homeless every year and they buy them tent, cheap ones at a whole sale price and give them out, and that’s about it, the rest of the money they keep, instead of putting in place businesses or non profits that could help them and also create jobs…but what do I know, I was homeless and thankfully had family that loved me and helped me through Hard times. 🤷♂️
if they die they wont be a problem anymore, nyc, probably
putting lots of money in inflicting more pain on the "lowest class" instead of using a fraction of that budget to actually solve the problem. great job america! truly the richest country!
It's every city of every fucking jackass country.
@@stupididiot4034 nope, America does this worse than anywhere else. No other country deliberately lets its weak suffer like America. Survival of the richest in action.
Hey uh look at the Soviets or in Mexico where cartels run towns, still is an issue but we are still miles ahead of other countries
Also this is to one of the replys UA-cam messed up my vomment.
@@arnegraphics3380 that isn’t the state. And the soviets haven’t been a thing for 25 years.
Believe it or not as an architecture student we had a whole section dedicated to teaching us how to come up with these 'hostile design' strategies. Fun times....we'll be productive citizens
This explains why all the US homeless are going to CAL.
Damn school systems dont teach you the right things anymore. Im sorry for you man. Im also an art student, just not in architecture. But I feel pain just imagining designing something like that
The real joke is that when you graduate as an engineer, you often take an oath to only create for the benefit and progress for all. While doctors are putti g their victims on ventilators for $$$. And cops are trampling on the constitution. Oath taking has become the new satire.
@@cooperyoung1928 oh whaaatt?? Is it through contract with the government?
To be fair half of modern engineering is just marketing.
NYC officials be like:
Corpses in the streets > Homeless people
they get to count those corpses as "covid deaths"
@@mikel8850 "remember many homeless don't want to get helped". Where are you getting this from? The homeless population are overwhelmingly people with mental illness issues who NEED help....
corpses? heh, not if there's a rat infestation
@@mikel8850 my logic is perfectly fine. I literally quoted you, then made a statement pertaining to the broadest issue of homelessness in general. And no. I did not refute your point outside of your sweeping statement that most don't want to be helped because I agree with the rest of what you said. However I also have to disagree with berating people for raising issue with the air vents as it's just unnecessarily cruel on the homeless that might rely on such things as sources for heat as the help that we argue they do indeed need does not currently exist....
At least something I'd agree with one thing.
Honestly, if I was drunk that would probably be the first place I’d lay. Looks like it contours the body pretty well.
That's what I thought
You shouldn’t be laying out in public if you’re drunk.
@@arbow954 Thank you captain, but people are depressed.
Life saver.
@@arbow954 what if I don’t have a home??
NYC is bringing a new meaning to "Fighting homelessness"
Literally
that's stolen from a quite famous comedian...
This makes me loose faith in humanity.
Shame on parents and society who teached
City designers and other people to be like this
This is what most of people don’t understand. In New York City at least, there is enough housing available for EVERY homeless person living there. That’s not an opinion but an indisputable fact
However many of them choose not to take advantage of this because these places have curfews, metal detectors and allow no alcohol or drugs.
So most homeless in New York are on the streets by PERSONAL CHOICE. I’m not saying every single homeless person is some drug addict that needs to be met with scorn, but they choose this lifestyle rather than being clean and in an apartment. So that’s on them and they get zero sympathy from me
The city is right to be building these structures
@@pugorilla8848 seems like you never been around homeless people and if so it was probably a charity event?
Some "homeless" are just lazy people who stand outside with signs wanting money,i seen a old homless man stand up from a wheelchair to go to his 2017 honda with great rims i can say.
I know this because i used to kick him and alot others like him.
Hostile design is the end result of compassion fatigue. Period. That's what you're seeing in the cities all around the world.
I had a history teacher in high school who once described America as “gilded”. Gilding is when an object is made of a cheap, usually more durable material, but then coated in a prettier, more expensive metal such as gold to make it look as if the whole object is made of it. I feel like that perfectly describes the nature of people in power who would rather cover up problems and make America look great than actually solve them, and I’ve never really forgot his words.
This is a really clever way to say it in just one word, I'm definitely writing that one down
Maybe they were referring to what Mark Twain called the Gilded Age -- which is basically the late 19th century -- and encompassed all the wealth inequality and bullshit of the time. I definitely see parallels in modern society. The Gilded Silicon Age.
I think everyone learned about the gilded age, but they dont twll u its still going on
@@skinnymon123 It's soon gonna be common knowledge, as the gold coating has been quickly wearing off the last 10 years
Well instead of gilded we simply say it’s cat sh1t wrapped in gold leaf.
So about a year ago, I managed to injure my leg while playing at a park quite far from home. Naturally I didn't want to walk all the way back, so I went to a nearby bus stop.
The next bus would take a bit to arrive, and I had to sit around. The benches there were "homeless-proof"; they were incredibly uncomfortable and at an angle to the wall.
I remember having to push my feet against the ground continuously to stay up, which exerted a lot of pressure on my injured leg. Looking back, it was only 10 minutes, but it felt like forever.
This leads me to bring up another point against homeless-proof design: it's also incredibly inconvenient *for those who are its intended users*
you changed my mind
Hostile architecture is abhorrent beyond words, everyone involved in creating it deserves 3g of lead
Exactly. It's ableist. Imagine the permanently disabled having issues with this despite them perhaps not being homeless.
@@datakristen8500 YESS
@TheGreekGod1488 same thing as saying to the homeless "just buy a house!"
God forbid a homeless person have a minuscule amount of comfort at any time.
Wasnt even comfortable to begin with they just assholed
It’s the total opposite here in California and it doesn’t do much about the homeless problem either.
Like you said instead of finding the root cause of the homeless problem, they’re building tiny huts to shelter them in. It does not help, it increases the problem.
Trying to find the root cause is going to take a lot of money, and they don't want to use too much
Wouldn't it be smarter to make the grates be at a 45 degree angle instead of just curved and slightly lumpy? Not saying I'm for or against it either way, just saying the person who came up with the design did a bad job
*"...the person who came up with the design did a bad job"*
To make that assessment, you need to know if the design is achieving the goal of keeping people off of the grates. Also, consider if the *"...curved and slightly lumpy..."* design may have been chosen for some artistic merit.
must be for storage efficiency
@@feathermerchant Very artistic.
Artistic my ass, the only artistic design language it says is like "wanna get cozy? yeah? come here, then bam.. slap in the face.. fk off!". It's a trap. What a snob of design.
@@niubilities Art, obviously, is in the eye of the beholder, or so they say. Not my cup of tea either, but art may still have been a consideration in the design.
This is a great idea. Now that the homeless can't lay down on the vents, they'll just have to buy homes. Who knew that ending homelessness would be so easy?
Right, it's actually pretty smart. An incentive to get a job basically, they should do this more often
@@skrimper tell me. How exactly does one go about getting a job with no address?
@@kogasoldier9379 Not all jobs require an address. However, if they did, then they could easily just remove that requirement. And yet, they would rather pass vaccine mandates keeping good people from working.
@@bermchasin you mean keeping stupid people from working
@@kogasoldier9379 You do know that this comment is a joke, right lol?
It was weird and sad when we as a society started covering so much of our architecture with bird spikeson every elevated horizontal surface. That we now do the same with the human equivalent on lower surfaces is even more depressing.
Because birds and animals damage buildings. And homeless people aren't really a good look.
@@dfct9494 yes, that's the true issue with homelessness. That it doesn't look good. Not that people are freezing to death on the street of the most wealthy country in human history. Did you even think this comment through?
@@person10284 yea. They are just really unpleasant to be around. I don't care where they go, or what happens to them, not my problem.
@@dfct9494 not sure how I'm supposed to explain to you that you should care about others but I think that's for you to learn bro
@@dfct9494 Currently hoping to the universe you end up homeless one day🙏
They put those exact same style things out when I was homeless years ago in the uk. 3 cardboard boxes on them and you're good. You won't feel a thing, as for the wonkiness you can find a comfy spot easy enough, especially after a few beers or a bottle of cheap cider 😉
One of the Blade movies showed how the Vampires attempted to solve the homeless problem. Maybe you could show it to them and see how they react to it! Considering those running your city are Vamps!
yea ima vamp slatt slatt ‼️‼️🧛🏾♂️🧛🏾♂️
drain gang
Well if you think technology is your friend then you should definitely watch this: The Connections (2021) [short documentary] 💖
Well said!!
@@Gromnomicon drain gang
The only hostile architecture I like is seeing sharp shattered glass cemented on top of walls that surrounds a house. Looks beautiful and morbid, and would work on discouraging thieves from climbing them
Yeah, also the spikes they put on rails at schools for kids who like to slide down them. Can be pretty, also saves childrens lives.
Let me guess...Brazil?
I live in hungary, and i see this sometimes (only at 2-3 houses) in my neighborhood, and i don't live in the worst part of town, like not too much crime happens around here i think.
@@Iregretmyoldname Latin America and probably Asia too
For a long time I thoght they were there to keep away cats and pingeons but then I saw a cat walking around them like they weren't there at all 😂
These are such an iconic representation of the culture we live in. If New York were designed to be homeless proof, it would be designed to decentivize treating land investment like tulips or nfts so rent wouldn't be insane.
If you want something to be homeless proof, you work on making it so that everyone has the opportunity to grow. But yeah. For New York, what you sounds like something they'd do.
Capitalism baby, it's a feature not a bug.
And whats better than capitalism? Let me guess, fucking communism... its so sweet to those who have never experianced it
Tulip and NFT prices have no affect on rent whatsoever in NYC tho..
@@gavinerickson9392 yeah thats capitalism, you dont want to work? Then yeah enjoy homeless life. If like comunism you can go to cuba or venezuela
“BUT WHERE WILL THEY FIND THE MONEY TO HOUSE THEM??!?!?” I think it’s in the NYPD’s budget somewhere, might want to check…
Boss: "Alright, we got money from charity for the homeless. What do we use it for??"
Employee 1: "Spikes on comfortable sections of the ground!"
Employee 2: "Wonky grate covers where warm air pours out!"
Employee 3: "Buying cheap homes/residential property and giving the homeless a place to rest"
Boss: *throws employee 3 out of the window*
employee 3 now sleeps on wonky grates
I thought of this as well lmfaooo
What the fuck is the matter with you?! You just want to GIVE them a place to rest?!
WHERE
IS
THE
MONEY?!?!
They'd probably build those hoses out of sheet paper and twigs so I don't think that would help all that much.
So you thinking making the homeless more comfortable will solve the problem?
How many do you take in or live on your property?
The underpaid Gov contract engineer who had to design and CAD that out probably had a few self reflective cigarette breaks about what they were doing with their life
Didn't stop them tho
If you love the homeless so much, why don't you offer them a place to stay at your place. Fucking hypocrite.
@@raphk9599 challene accepted
@@FaposaurusRex69 nope.
@@raphk9599 I dont think you understood the op's comment because I don't understand your comment.
NYC: "Lets cause pain to homeless people"
Homeless people: "Oh, well I guess we'll just stop being homeless"
Agreed they need homes too Especially when the weather is miserable is it always feel bad when I see them outside in horrible weather:(
@@bigburgerboi2005 but people won’t donate to them
@@DrR. exactly!!!
More like they’ll just be homeless somewhere else
As long as i i can't see them it is good enough
Can't even begin to understand the sorrow that the homeless must have felt the first time see that their spot has been ruined by these hate grids.
Seeing society conspire actively or complicitly against you would fill me with rage, but they can't even afford rage, it probably just adds to their despair...
NYC is basically doing:"Hey guys I see you're starving over there, here"
*THROWS A SLICE OF BREAD WITH NAILS STICKING OUT*
"And something to chug it down! "
*throws soup bowl with glass shards in it*
@@bobono ok this got me laughing. NYC serving bomb pies now
I’m from nyc and most of these people are mentally ill, they cannot work, they 99% of the time have some sort of drug and alcohol problem. They should help themselves. Kids in nyu Washington sq sell anything, clothes they found, weed, nutcrackers. I don’t want to hear any excuses.
I don't think I've ever seen somebody so sharply acknowledge struggle outside of somebody's hands and then immediately pivit to "They should just fix it themsleves! :)"
@@yallannoying398 fair enough but too be fair the only way to make good money without a job or passive income is selling weed if you dont want to be imprisoned forever if you get caught unless you found one of those secret hustles
This is called Hostile Design... No kidding. It's an actual design field. It includes public benches with separators and little pikes on the ground around shopping centers...
what kind of evil genius goes into this career field smh
beat me to it
@@bluewuppo Simon Barsinister
is there a field called hostile city planning? because if so, NYC has a lot of them on payroll
This is literally like taking pain meds so your cancer doesn't hurt.
They're not solving the problem, just making sure less people notice.