NYC is Building Anti-Homeless Streets…
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- Опубліковано 11 лис 2023
- “Hostile Architecture” has many purposes, but should it be used against NYC’s most vulnerable? There are examples of this type of design all over the city, some by private companies, and others by the city itself.
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It seems to me the “hostile architecture” is only kicking the can down the road- if you notice they are not solving their homeless crisis - just keeping people out of certain areas
ur the most sane person in this entire comment section❤
I don’t think anyone would say that it’s solving the issue. But I think everyone would agree that they don’t want to walk down the streets with their children and see drugged out people laying around. Not even saying I necessarily support hostile architecture, but sleeping on the streets isn’t the answer for anything
no, they are just spending your tax money on useless shit
Exactly!
It helps. NY has a right to shelter law. These push people into programs where they have better resources. If huge tax sums go to housing any and all homeless then I'd prefer these setups that make public spaces more enjoyable. Most homeless are an eye-sore, get them homed!
The perfect definition of “ignoring a problem believing it will disappear”
How are they ignoring it? This is a pretty effective tactic for keeping the downtown clear of vagrants.
@@Elladrilit's not.
Spending more on being horrible than being helpful. Vote out anyone who builds this garbage. It's like having a water stand with free water and realizing homeless people are drinking it, so you add poison.
It’s the liberal way of life.
What are you doing to personally stop all problems in the world? If you're not solving all problems, then you can't lock your doors since thats cruel to people who need your stuff.
So elderly people with walkers, canes etc.pregnant women, the handicapped have no respite in such a situation- this is VERY cruel and merciless
this is the problem with people these days. they can only see things from one point of view while this has multiple.
-yes its not nice for the elderly, pregnant women and the handicapped to not having a seat.
-its also not nice that there is a homeless person laying down on that seat if there was one because then they still can,t sit.
-yes its not nice for the homeless person that he/she has no house
-its also not nice that they are taking up space and resources from other members of society that they contribute nothing to themselves.
-there are centers for helping feeding, clothing cleaning the homeless there have been for at least a century in this western world.
as are there centers for the elderly,handicapped etc etc
and either people want to be helped or they are not to be helped
society is not obliged to help at all but there are still systems in place to help people who want to be helped.
so if there is not hostile architecture then there will be more and more homeless people laying down on benches all over the city, and not just the homeless people, but also the homeless people who bring all kinds of criminal activities( burglary but also like violently robbing me you or the elderly/handicapped and yes pregnant women as well) with them to pay for their ''substances'' , and you know what the people will say then?? THEY SHOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS...
😂😂😂
@@justposted3524 What are you laughing about?
@@CC3GROUNDZERO source
This is what happens when you let Jews win a world war
This is horrible for anyone with a disability or old. Shit even just has any type of pain
I hate having an old.
Agreed. Every plan that includes excluding one group of people will also exclude other groups too. Why spend money on these type of projects instead of solving houselessness by funding housing and resources for those who need it.
Even to someone who just want to sit as a normal person.
I know politicians likes it, but not everybody feels good when sitting on spikes.
Stop lying
Imagine being the architect who imagines how to make the world uncomfortable.
@@kayakfishin966 passive recreation is a thing. But then again I don't live in NYC.
It's an architectural dystopia - Dr. Eve Edelstein
@@tanyasharma3723 don't have to
I think park benches that are comfortable to sit on but uncomfortable to sleep on are a very practical way to make them most useful to the most people. And people sleeping on the sidewalk are tripping hazards so dissuading that is also advantageous to most people. What's not to like?
@@scottmiller4585 You would rather not have to pay attention to where you're walking and sometimes trip on a dude than for another human being to have a good place to keep them warm in the winter? And why do you think making benches uncomfortable to sleep on is more useful to more people? You're fucking taking away functions from them
That's not stopping people from being homelesss, that's just making everyone uncomfortable.
Need wood palletes and lots of cardboard to be comfortable for damn sure
You will see less homeless on these streets. So win for me
@@deathhunter1029homeless people remain the only group that is "acceptable" to talk about like this, you people act like they're pests
@@nyastalgiakitten They are.
We need more shelters and increased capacity and resources so all of them can get clean. If they're not interested after that then I why should I care? Consequences of your actions and all that. They're adults not children, they can make choices.
@@randomdude1191 they're pests? Being a victim of circumstances outside of your control makes you a pest? I hope you never face financial struggle because you'll finally have to understand what the horror of our outlook causes to other human beings
I was in Moynihan and I wasn't even allowed to sit on the floor. They told me I had to sit on my suitcase or stand.
It's literally criminal.
Where in the City’s code of ordinances is that prohibited?!? Can’t imagine being told I can’t sit in the ground. Wow
Its not a park, its a train station.@@TexasFire_Cross
@@dougtaylor2803 what an a-hole you are you should be proud 👏
@@TexasFire_Cross like 200 people should go in and just staty sitting all over the place for a few months everyday.
Send all the illegals there! @@davidu8688
This mainly affects the elderly, pregnant women and other people with disability who cant stand long. This is horrible.
Maybe if enough people with disabilities sue the city, the evil structures will vanish.
You know what else is horrible to the elderly and pregnant women ?
HOMELESS DRUG ADDICTS !!!
@@bellvnv2000 You hit the nail on the head! 😅
And kids.those hole are small for adult but for kids...
How on earth do vent covers affect the elderly and pregnant women? (ugh. we don't need any more babies earth is over populated)
This is like shutting off the water to the entire house to stop a dripping faucet instead of simply fixing the faucet. But hey, governments are not known for their problem- solving abilities.
the government emulates the attitudes of the people and ignores the possibly larger groups who oppose it because they wont fight back adequately.
Because they don't have them.
Hahahahaha bro, you have to manage them. They clearly can't manage themselves. The amount of times my car and house has been broken into is ridiculous. They installed hostile architecture and blocked off the underpass down the street from my house a year or so ago and all of the homeless have disappeared from the area... haven't had to replace any doors or windows since.
I could care less where they went, but me, my wallet, and my safety are feeling much better these days.
Did they really need to steal one of each of my shoes, take my $750 bike, and then leave an unspent .45ACP round on every window sill in my house? Yeah, I could care less about what happens to those people.
Right they literally caused all of these problems 😂
@@ZNZNUKE yeah, they did. Why do people still trust the government? Oh, the government caused a problem, let's give more power to the government to solve this problem.
Oh, a new person trying to change American politics? Must be the Russians, our government must never change.
We need to vote in more 80 year old boomers to solve the issues they caused over the last 60 years they've been in office.
As someone with a disability that makes it very painful for me to stand for long periods, that train station would be absolute hell. So not only is this affecting the homeless population, it affects the many, many people like me with disabilities. I don’t like having to take my wheelchair places if I can help it, but places like that would force me to.
Most are designed to make laying down either impossible or uncomfortable.
@@markrouse2416 benches are not for laying down, there are a lot of people who would like only to sit, so yes there should be both benches where people can only sit and special benches where people can also lay down. Plus it doesn't matter if all are occupied by sleeping homeless people, it's like not having them at all.
You aren't getting a seat anyway since a homeless person will be laying there preventing 4 disabled people from using that bench.
@@akba666 We don't think about it that much.
@akba666 both need a place to sit, so both can have it.
This is downright evil. Instead of finding a way to help these people, New York’s solution is to make their lives even harder. As if they all had a choice. People don’t just wake up one day and say, you know what? I’m gonna leave this house, job, children and go live in the park, under a bridge, in an alley. Then my life will be complete!
You may be surprised to find out that many people try and escape from their lives in exchange for homelessness. Battered wives do it. Husbands that feel unappreciated by their families. Couples tired of living a rat race or just tired of paying rent choose to sort of run away.
do you live in NYC? probably not. do you have homeless people sleeping in your doorway, pissing in your staircase? probably not. what would you do with that? people live there too and they own the place
@@chrisbelos2834 instead of acknowledging anything they said, you resorted to a stupid fallacy that added absolutely nothing to the conversation, thinking you were actually doing something. If they want to get homeless people off the streets, they could just, I don't know, fund programs to help them readjust into society, and not make hostile architecture that not only wasted materials, but also harms pretty much everyone that isn't just poor and homeless.
There's a very clear solution but you're clearly indoctrinated in the idea that hostile architecture, such as removing benches from a subway that is needed for disabled people and pregnant women, is some grand plan to solve the homelessness crisis. Get real.
❤ finally..someone else sees that the answer isn't to Ignore the issue
@@chrisbelos2834Take care of them. Help them for a short time to become Productive. It honestly wouldn't take long. Also..many seriously mentally ill are on the streets due to Nowhere to go
I was sitting on a bus terminal seat in Atlantic City waiting for my bus. I was just sitting there with my ticket for about 2 minutes minding my own business. I never been there previously, never loitered, not dressed like a bum, etc. One of the workers there complained to me that I had my eyes closed too much like I was going to sleep. I couldn't believe it. I argued with him and wanted to complain to management, but my bus arrived shortly. It just wasn't worth it. Unbelievable.
Again a violation of the ADA. Wear sunglasses. I sometimes have to close my eyes to limit overstimulation. Sunglasses make it more difficult for people to see you're closing your eyes.
Brings a whole new meaning to the city that never sleeps
haha
Benches are not made for sleeping they are made for a quick rest in the city. I do think they should make the seats more comfortable but keep the middle armrest so you can’t lay down
HAHAHHA this comment is underrated.
as an engineer I was trained to optimise things, how do you optimise a bench@@bassentertainmentstudios1900 ? If you place middle armrests you are saying everyone fits a single build, their arms rest at X height, they are Y wide. It's bad enough already that leg length can't be be handled efficiently, without making the rest of the variables of* them either too generous or useless. The simple fact is that no middle arm rests is the most optimised bench, it's self optimising. Hence why they used to be like that back when people cared more about good products and not some BS.
*the edit
@@bassentertainmentstudios1900 Baseball bats aren't made to fight intruders, but when your life is on the line, it is whatever you need it to be.
Cities/people think homeless people will just go away with things like this. Unless you've been homeless (I have) you don't understand the desperation, fear, and embarrassment of it. Whether due to poor choices or not (and it's NOT always, even in America), no one deserves this.
I have been homeless a few times and am now a 1 percenter. I earned my way out by being PRODUCTIVE and RESPONSIBLE instead of a burden. I do not shed ONE little tear for them. How can they be "embarrassed" to defecate in front of others on a public sidewalk? Like animals?
@@crimestoppers1877you just made that judgemental ish up nice lie
My investments were poor choices so I ended up homeless a few times. I had no problems working to have more freedom from debt and government overreach. I found that unless you are an insider stay out of the US stock markets. I did save lots of money on rent and eating expenses while homeless. Free meals everywhere.
Just go camp in the middle of nowhere. The you will have no one telling you what to do or where to sit, you don't have to get a job or rent a place or live like a human being. Of course you won't get the handouts that get taken off MY paycheck either. Wonder why it's not a more popular option.
Skill issue
As someone with a disability, this is a literal nightmare for me. I can't stand/ walk for long at a time, so most of these places are inaccessible to me.
Maybe if enough people with disabilities sue the city, the evil structures will vanish.
In Moscow mayor started to biuld this kind of stuff everywhere, replacing normal benches. Hundreds of people freezing to death every winter. We have mirror situation: poor quality shelters and no choice to stay warm in metro or anywhere else. It's really sad that instead of helping those in need, we push them into more troubles.
And in St. Petersburg they just removed almost all the freaking benches. Even from the parks. You need to walk like David Goggins, with no effing rest. Disabled just sit at home, and homeless populate abandoned buildings in downtown.
I cannot believe that Papa Putin would do such a thing
@@user-mf5ue6rc5n Papa Sobyanin did.
Do you see the irony and hypocrisy that this took place in communist Russia?
Worst thing is they are probably pouring a lot of money into private companies to design this stuff, instead of using the money to help the needy
Companies owned by friends of politicians
Yeah, let's spray money at lazy bums who will waste it all the next minute
It's not Afghanistan, Iran or Russia.
In America you get a job and live a decent life
So you have better idea to rid city of these beggars, transients, and druggies we are all ears? No one can help these that they don’t want to help
Netherlands has a good program to help homeless, check it if you are curious.
@SashaFujiwara we give inordinate amounts of money to countries like that which is just laundered or put into terrorism, like iran and Afghanistan. Yes, this is america: where we pretend like we care and dump money into corrupt and violent foreign countries while ignoring our own citizens at home. Thats why people are mad about this stuff
Keep in mind that private residential property owners can be sued for even a slip and fall on their own land in the US. Yet government can add spikes to curbs and you cannot sue them.
I don’t know how you got this misinformed but you can absolutely sue the government. If someone fell and got injured by a spike they can definitely win a lawsuit. That makes using spikes a very bad idea for multiple reasons.
@@FatherManus yet people injured and the spike still there.
@@shaka2tuThats because they never sued the government.
@@shaka2tu It is possible that if you sued the city they would settle out of court, not admitting guilt, and requiring the plaintiff to sign an NDA.
The city just has to weigh the costs of lawsuits and settlements vs the deterrent factor.
No, you can sue the government. It's just that it's almost impossible to win.
Homeless advocates can let a vagrant stay in one of their many spare bedrooms. The rest of us will keep making cities safe for women and children.
With the growing issue of homelessness and a lack of places to go, soon they'll be on your porch 😂. You gonna install hostile architecture there?
It’s only hostile architecture until the homeless moves into your neighborhood. 😂
Do you understand that there are people with disabilities, elderly, pregnant women?
If this os the solution, what would happen if this kind of stuff was built everywhere? Will homeless people dissapear?
@@doodoo2065why is that my problem?
Hostile architecture is literally the definition of "If we can't see the problem, the problem doesnt exist", just sweep the homelessness problem under the rug and it's all fine
That's not entirely it though, is it. Where I grew up there were a bunch of public seating areas on a beachfront esplanade that homeless people basically commandeered as their own, which meant that elderly people walking along that area had nowhere they could sit down to rest. The homeless people could easily have moved themselves to somewhere more sheltered where it wasn't stopping others from resting, whereas the old people walking along that main pedestrian route didn't have any other options for sitting down if they were tired. So in situations like that, which are probably not so common in cities but definitely so in towns, architecture on benches etc. which is 'anti-sleeping' and 'anti-deciding that you now own this particular area stopping others from being able to use it' makes sense.
Spikes on buildings is messed up, though.
Well, would you like to see homeless people everywhere, especially in the center of the city? You sure have seen neighborhoods with streets literally conquered by homeless people, and they come with litter, drugs and violence. Those benches and air vents are not meant to solve the problem of homelessness, just keeping them away
Homeless is a choise, they can go to shelters, but they doesn't want to give up on drugs, so they choose drugs over a better life
It’s not mta responsibility to take care of the homeless. It is the responsibility of the homeless to take care of themselves. I’m not understanding how you guys are mad about the mta cleaning up their business. Those homeless people commit crimes and make the trains unbearable with their smell.
@@russellhank You misspelled Democrat. The exact ones that pushed these bills. Do your homework and go look at the bills presented and see all those politicians on them.
Not being allowed to sit on the floor when there are no seats is outrageous.
But there are seats. You just have to be using the train station for its intended purpose (waiting for a train) to use them.
Dang it could add a lot more culture shocks for foreign tourists who live in the country without those strict rules
They are meant not to encourage antisocial behaviour and promote safety .
@@jasonwhitley3751 This is still a major issue.
@@kaninma7237 no it isn't it is done to protect the public from homeless people, most of whom have a long criminal record.
Is it permissible to use a fold up chair/stool you pack with you - as in a small and portable backpack camping style seat - to these train stations, or would security not like that either?
*BYOC - Bring Your Own Chair* . . . *and if they don't like it, I'm 6'8", don't make me get up* . . . *I'm not in a good mood* . . . *this in NYC* . . .
Actually, it was the same way during the 90s and early 2000s.
... when skateboarding started taking off as an extreme sport.
cities were putting up ropes around tables and benches and going to cross bar wide grate benches and tables...they had like a smaller chain link type table tops and benches so skate board and Rollerblade wheels would get caught in them so people wouldn't try skating tricks on them, and the cities weren't having to replace broken park benches all the time
I was in New York over Christmas and New Year and was appalled at how few seating options there are in this city. This also applies to garbage cans and toilets.
After walking through the city for hours and there were no seats in the Oculus either, we sat down exhausted on the huge staircase leading to the PATH station. 1 minute later, an officer appeared and told us to get up
I seriously don't know how people can live there let alone look forward to moving there. Too overcrowded, too much going on, etc. A visit here and there but nope
No Longer is this Nation "The Land of the Free, and Home of the Brave" We are now being welcomed into the New Age "Land of the FEE, Home of the (tax) Slave". Better buckle up, lookin to be a hell of a ride.
What ever happened to WE THE PEOPLE?
places for resting and socializing are illegal now
@matthewboyd8689 the darker colored ppl ruined that sort of thing by starting gangs and being violent
@@matthewboyd8689build back better
I flew into JFK airport for the first time not that long ago. Looked for somewhere to sit down and send a bunch of texts...walked through the *entire airport end to end*. No public seats. I walked outside the airport to the pickup area. No seats. It was kind of unreal. It's an airport, homeless people can't even get inside without paying, but still, no seats.
what airport do you pay to get into?
@@uncledeadhead3674 All of them, since I'm obviously talking about debarkation.
They've got this same type of bullshit "archiecture" at a few airports I've been through. Annoying af not being able to lay down while waiting for your next flight. Like put in some tubes you can rent to sleep in instead of pissing away money to inconvenience people.
Some say it's to make you remember to get on the plane on time. Good seat will make you relax and forget the time runs out. I think it maybe a little bit makes sense, but just dont overdo it.
As you said, the elderly, disabled, and expecting or new mothers often need seating, which is unavailable to them if the homeless are sleeping on them. Homelessness is a huge and growing problem with no easy solution, the consequences of which will be felt for a long time.
Yeah, but homeless people need said bench more. Just like a pregnant woman' should give her seat to a guy who has no legs if there was only one
I have knee pain...This would be really a problem for people like me and elderly people who really need to sit down while waiting
there are foldable chairs you can get, pretty small to pack too
It's not just about homelessness, it's about getting people to accept being treated like criminals.
My back is killing me because I just stayed in a motel that wouldnt give me a chair to sit in maybe theyve been studying under these assholes
Exactly I want someone to do something about this it should be illegal to harm people
Absolutely! Another poster pointed out that it's like shutting off the water to a building to fix a leaking faucet or like amputating a foot to cure a hangnail. Victimising people who have been marginalised by that same system.
They marginalized themselves by being lazy, drug users or drunks. @@koriw1701
remember in 2020 when a certain something was happening and thousands of homeless went something something missing from large cities? I wonder what happened to them
never thought we as people needed to fight for the RIGHT to sit. this is ridicules
As someone with chronic shoulder pain. This shot is just one more reason why I’m staying near DC and would never go live in NYC
The fact that security will FORCE you to stand up in a place with nowhere to sit is fucking insane and authoritarian.
@@Cardioid2035It's time to get back to licking your master's boot.
You shouldn't be loitering in train stations or subways anyway.
@@ryan7864 ..By loitering do you mean.. waiting for your fucking train?
Yup nazis EU is taking over
@@ryan7864 How the fck is sitting considered loitering around?? It is like they assume we are vehicles or something I wonder what is next removing seats in the train??
This is like ignoring a broken muffler by turning the radio all the way up, hoping you’ll forget the problem until you have to crank the car up again. 😂😂😂
Wow...watching this video compared to the video you just made like days ago...such a contrast! Hard to believe that NYC got so much more crazier within months of this video.
It’s art that perfectly encapsulates modern New York: don’t solve the problem, solve the perception.
OK, let's hear your solution.
@@MyUtubeScott - Well lets see.... hmmm... how about NOT spending billions on the rest of the world's homeless people while simultaneously ignoring our own? Time to send a lot of folks home.
@@Mr.Ekshin ya ya ya, ok, WHATS YOUR SOLUTION THOUGH. That’s not a real answer
@@user-jf2cq3yw5iYes it is.
@MyUtubeScott There is no answer because most homeless are on drugs, and even if we built facilities for them, tons of buildings just for the homeless, they still wouldn't be allowed in. Thus, just circling back to the start of the problem.
The drug epidemic.
I remember when I was young and first learned about how we started building curb ramps. Like we decided to start designing things to be better for people in wheelchairs, and in the process we learned that these "accessibility features" made things better for pretty much anyone, including groups that we hadn't thought of like workers rolling around heavy boxes on a dollie.
Glad to see we've finally learned our mistake and are now doing the exact opposite, designing specifically to punish the needy and making things worse for literally everyone else in the process.
The “needy” hahaha keep your thoughts and politics away from cities that are doing it right. Stay in la or ny
That 150 billion dollars of US taxpayer money could have solved the homeless problem. Instead they spend more taxpayers money on stuff to deter homeless from sleeping around the city. It's like putting a bandaid on a stab wound🤣
@@TheeAppleName your favorite city and I'll tell you why you're stupid for liking it.
@@TheeApple I think you missed the sarcasm
@@TheeApple Homeless folk are not in need of something? That what you are saying?
A home, for example?
This is how sick the government truely are
Well it's America, the sickest government in the world
I think this started in Britain in the 80s . The benches went from nice wooden style to steel full of holes , then homeless spikes on buildings in central . I think a can of expanding foam could be a fun idea !!
Don’t forget our vets , thank you for acknowledging people with disabilities and elderly and expectant mothers .
The way we treat vets in this country is disgusting.
Florida its off the rails, people that thought they were going to retire in Florida can't make ends meet. Its disgusting seeing their governor run for president. Everyone talks about people moving to Florida, but I live in Atlanta, which is full of people leaving Florida. I'm also from Florida though, left that dumpster fire decades ago.
People with disabilities, the elderly, and expectant mothers are some of the biggest victims of benches and such being "repurposed" to homeless campsites. This video shows places with no homeless people, and doesn't consider that, when those places have nice benches, those benches are constantly filled with homeless people. It's not like those benches become available for anyone else. He sort of mentions how "loitering" caused problems a few years ago, but just dismisses it.
@@Gee-xb7rtFlorida is the #1 state for both domestic and international immigration
@@Gee-xb7rti was in florida in 2016, 2 bucks for a gallon of gas or a pitcher of Yuengling.
As someone who has issues standing in one place for extended periods, that train station sounds like a nightmare
There should be at least a tiny seat to rest for few minutes!!! A foot by foot spot? It’s an outright cruelty for the TAX PAYERS. Also for the visitors and travellers.We like to enjoy the city by sitting down for a few minutes.
It’s a shame on the city.
If you’re not buying a ticket, leave. The point was to stop people from loitering and people from trying to make the train station their home.
@lemonadelemon1960 bro people need to wait for the train.
You are free to walk around.
@@lemonadelemon1960Yes everyone knows when you buy a ticket your train will immediately manifest when you go down to get on, also for preventing loitering, no one would loiter unless they felt they had to but let’s instead spend money on making everyone’s lives miserable and making disabled people more uncomfortable
They spending more money on not letting homeless sleep than to make shelters where they can sleep.
Too busy spending billions on illegal immigrants.
"Only someone with a college degree could come up with this" had me rolling
Places like New York once had boarding houses where people could rent a room and share a bathroom for cheap.Then countries bought in the better town planning idea and the so called slums or older buildings were classified as health and fire hazards etc. In this sweeping away of the ugly, they displaced so many people into more expensive housing that was impossible to keep up with because of uncertain work, casual work and poverty. Now there is a terrible problem with homelessness that they have failed to address. It now seems they are becoming ruthlessly heartless.
Watch old movies, they show how low income people lived in NY. I remember the scene in which a train came by an apartment shook and the noise was so loud. People must have tolerated such nonsense all the time but at least they had a place to live.
all of what was in the video (especially the one where the security guards will come and find you if you sit on the GROUND?!) and what you mentioned seems more and more like dystopian society. No wonder God Y'hovah lets the society slip into depravity of wokeness and what not, we have forsaken Him and His justice.
@dmwp NY would rather take care of illegal immigrants than their homeless population
Yes, NYC had what they called "Flop Houses" all along the Bowery, I remember them as a Teen in 1966-1976 they were $1.00 per Week, dorm room style and housed only Men. Most of the dudes were WWII Veterans who had succumbed to Alcohol and were in their 50's. Coffee Shops in NYC at that time charged Ten CENTS for a cup of coffee. Average Rent in the East Village was $35 dollars per month. Gentrification and developers changed the city to what it is today.
Spiderman 2 Playstation5 < Where is spiderman or Batman when you need them?
I am not homeless, but I can’t walk that much due to a disability. I wouldn’t even be able to sit down to take a break. These people are so cruel.
The cruelty is the point. People walk around holding their noses up disgusted that they even have to look at human beings they think are beneath them.
get a wheelchair?
@@Jason-sh2xc why would I get a wheelchair? I can walk but I can’t stand more than 40 minutes maybe I need to sit down to give my body a break if I got into a wheelchair or use electric scooter all the time my health would decline, but it is cruel what New York City is doing, and other cities like it sanctuary cities that put up illegals in hotels while leaving Americans out in the street and can’t even sit down anywhere now it’s on the news that they are going to pay two years rent for these people while New Yorkers struggle to keep a roof over their heads
@@laurasorrell9713 no no, you misunderstood me. I meant for you to push a wheelchair around and sit down whenever you need to
Get a wheelchair.
Unfortunately, many of these homeless prefer the streets and panhandling/shoplifting rather than seeking out a shelter/rehab/employment services. If it's easy to shoplift, and plenty of public places to set up camp, it creates the environment for those types of problems to thrive and grow. I 100% support "hostile" architecture to ensure that a bench is used to sit in not sleep in. Regarding the benches that were taken out of that one subway stop, even if the benches were not removed, the people that need them couldnt use them anyway because there was probably someone always sleeping on them.
BUT I also agree that the city needs to figure out how to help those that want help and oust the ones who prefer living on the streets.
Public Trash cans are also disappearing and I've noticed a lot of places turn off their public wifi after they close
I lived in NYC on and off for 10 years. I remember coming to the city when there would be homeless people LIVING in the subway, Times Square was a major shit hole ... it wasn't pleasant at all. I've had homeless follow me, harrass me, etc. It was scary to be in the subway waiting for a train. I have empathy for people, but who wants to go into a city where there is filth, feces and the stench of piss? No one.
homeless people dont have a choice city is shitty its not poor peoples fault. what do u wanna do genocide homeless people to make the city nice enough for u?
i was only there for two days and couldn't wait to leave. lunatics and homeless people everywhere, spit on one of my friends because he wouldn't, and i can't make this up, buy his lipstick. It's all because we won't get to the root of homelessness and that's drug addiction and mental disorders.
Cash's virtue signalling is on level 10. Homeless people need more help than flat subway grates. If someone camped in front of his building I'm sure he wouldn't enjoy it
my town has a large homeless population too. I feel you. people that criticize this have never had to deal with this I think
Yeah because what NYC is doing is fixing the homeless problem.
I spent several hours waiting for a 3 a.m. flight in Tel Aviv. It was quite apparent by the nature of the benches that they didn't want people hanging around. They, however, underestimated my ability to snooze anywhere.
:D :D
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no they didn't.
U got me LMFAO sir!👏🤲🎄
@@AssNuggett they did
$10,000,000 spent making NYC anti-homeless, instead of using that money to make homeless, not homeless...
They are too busy spending billions on illegal immigrants.
I saw a guy turn a bus stop bench into his mini room ,he was passed out & there was 2 old lady’s waiting for the bus ,
was messed up cuz they was staring in wet grass
& would have to wait 40m standing
For a school trip I went on once, we went to NYC. It was my first time going there, and I was blown away by the skyscrapers. However, at one point in the trip we were at the grand central terminal and we were told to look around and meet back up at a certain time so that we could get on our bus. I didn't have any money to spend at the stores and felt tired from walking a lot, so I spent most of my time searching for a bench, and eventually settling to sitting on the ground with my heavy bags.
I never realized how strange it was that I couldn't find a bench until I watched this video. Great video! They really need to install some benches.
They benches would probably all be full of homeless people sleeping on them, so you still wouldn't be able to sit.
@@Wolfsheim23even if they will be homeless sleeping on it it best to have benches or they make all the benches like the one in the video that you can only sit but you can’t lay on it
@@renad2649 True they should have those. I first noticed this same thing in train station in Rome back around 2011. They put spikes on the low walls too or anything you could normally sit on. Just a few benches around people fought over.
@@Wolfsheim23 if they did like the benches in nyc best then putting spikes on the spots that people sit on it , some of the benches in nyc you can sit on it but don’t feel comfortable sitting on it for a long time and also not all the people get the message of designing those benches the reason behind it not allowing homeless to sleep on it but the spikes is direct message to not allowing people to sit and be comfortable
@@renad2649 No the spikes are on things you would be able to sit on, but they aren't benches. Like on low walls, edges of fountains, etc.
I’m honestly astonished that they don’t have ‘pay per sleep’ pods, or ‘pay per sit’ benches.
Pay per seat is called Starbucks
Yeah…that will probably be something they try next. SMH 🤦🏼♀️
@@colemichae More like the subway.
A pod that was literally a temperature controlled bed that cost a few dollars a night would be a great idea. Too bad there are laws about how big a rental unit has to be and the like.
Million dollar idea bro
Security in a train or bus station cannot legally force you to stand up.
That is a clear violation of the Americans with Disabilities Act.
They can make you clear certain routes for fire access reasons, but they cannot prevent you from sitting down. You also do not need to list your disability or condition or prove that you have such a disability. Any request of that nature can lead to a lawsuit.
Simply tell them that you are exercising your rights under the Americans with Disabilities Act and if they have a problem with that to please call their supervisor immediately.
If the supervisor backs them up, refuse anyway, and see what they do. Whatever they do will just make it worse for them. If they physically assault you to remove you at that point, they will likely make you a millionaire in the later lawsuit, or close enough.
I clicked on this video thinking it shows ideas to let Homeless people have shelters in the night.... But it turned out to be the complete opposite emotion.
gives new meaning to "the city that never sleeps"
rofl. underrated comment. :D
The city that never have a seat
Hostile architecture is a thing in most big cities, like in mine they shut down most of the homeles shelters & mental health services while also doing stuff like this. You aren't fixing the homeless issue, just moving them around the city and making it someone elses problem.
*Most big cities in America
@LennyMill Thats fair, but in my case I don't live in America.
@@Moetastic Fair enough. I just saw "shut down most of the homeless shelter and mental health services" and assumed. Sorry
Yes sir!!
@@LennyMillyou apologized so nicely, God bless and Jesus loves you ❤️
I moved here 26 yrs ago and what I have seen so far is that unless a person has mental issues , he is definitely homeless by choice. I mean you drive by Home Depot at 7am and there are groups of people (immigrants) looking to Get hired and by the time it's 10AM they are gone working. And then you have an American born man approaching you on a subway asking for a quarter so he could get something to eat. As if he did not know that is if he stands by Home Depot he could end up making more than a quarter an hr.
i'm from the uk .. euston station in london has no seating inside , there is seating outside but it's open air , kings cross is beautiful but also has hostile benches , and a waiting room you have to pay for .. ridiculous , i understand why they do this .. but doesn't solve anything does it
Up until the 1980’s the chronic homeless were locked up in psychiatric hospitals. The hospitals were horrible, so they were shut down. Now the homeless, most of whom are mentally ill, addicts, or alcoholics, wander the streets. I’m not sure which situation is worse.
Better they were in the facilities.
Most of those ppl are probably die now, but man the 90s n the 00s must have been filled with those crazy homeless ppl
@@hittingdasaucetheir will always be people with mental problems..... The problem is that we are a Nation that no longer cares for the Vulnerable.... Even the Grown Adults abandon their Parents..... It's when you get old or mentally unstable that you realize how Inhumane our Society has become.....
There is much globalist political talk today about victims and oppressed vs oppressor, but the globalist leftists with the money shut down the Occupy Wall Street movement since it was confronting the globalists directly.@@ricardosoto5512
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Not only is terrible for homeless folks, but also for people like me. I’m 64 year old woman with chronic body pain who needs to be able to sit down! It sure does not make me feel like going to visit New York City anytime soon. 😢
I agree what stupid city. Don’t care to visit New York I’ll just stay in my little town of minnesota😊
@Nan-59
Time to go to the gym and improve the quality of your life. Or stay home.
@@hyena13164, chronic body pain. You can’t fix age or chronic pain with exercise
Don't vote for democrat then......
Well, good luck sitting on a bench that a homeless person who has pissed themselves is sleeping on in the middle of the day
They be doing everything but the right thing
This isn’t just hostile against the homeless or vagrants, but also those with disabilities and the elderly. My mother is in her mid 70s and is unable to stand for long periods of time without easily tiring out her legs and back. This is problematic in my city of Houston, Texas as well. How is this not illegal and a violation of the ADA? (Americans with Disabilities Act)
I feel bad for people who're actually injured and have hip/leg (more and any related) injuries, who actually just need to sit down comfortably for a couple of minutes
They wouldn't be able to rest there anyway. There would be a homeless person monopolizing the rest station.
That's who the city is trying to hurt.
You're probably poor too, because there ARE benches in which anyone can sit, but due to the arm rest , homeless people can't sleep there
@@Falconer17777nah, you didn't watch the video properly
There are a lot of homeless people who have disabilities and problems like that too ya know. And if you can't sit down next to someone's who's homeless maybe you should just go home and use your chairs at home.. because they cant.
Being a disabled person, i have to sit down frequently. I was upset when the local Walmart removed their benches. My only option was stop going to Walmart. I guess thats what they wanted. I haven't been inside Walmart for about 5 years. I feel sorry for cities that do this. They want to sweep everyone under the rug rather than help them. If your not one of the "Beautiful people " they don't want to even see you. Such self centered people will face judgement someday. I wonder how they will explain themselves.
You wouldn't be able to sit down either way with a homeless bum camped out on the bench doing drugs.
Wait, isn’t that kind of a dystopia?? Its gonna be one soon enough.
@@jameslydon3314people like u are what's wrong with society
They don't need. Many people agree with them, they just don't say it. This is really sad.
you made the right decision but you should've made it before the inconvenience...I haven't shopped at Walmart for years because the second I do, I always regret it and I'm not disabled.
One thing that makes me happy is that there are people who feel for the homeless. Yes, they can cause issues and a lot of them have no plans of getting their life together, some of them are very good people in a bad situation. I was homeless for a couple years, and during that time I felt like no one cared at all... and I get it.
I have chronic postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome sometimes I use a wheelchair and sometimes I don’t and this stuff is very annoying when I’m not
I've been to Moynihan Hall when i had to travel to NYC for work, and I sat on the floor while waiting for my train because there were no seats, but within 5 seconds a security guard came over and told me "NO SITTING ALLOWED!" and made me stand up. Literally insane. -_-
That's wild and doesn't sound like they would have any legal grounds to order people around like that in a public facility.
Literally so crazy there is nowhere to even rest. There are people who get there early to wait for they train so they don't miss it, otherwise they might have to wait a few hours for the next one. They could be holding so much luggage or coming from somewhere else it's exhausting having to stand there after what might be a tiring trip, besides the small food court if you find a seat. Every time I have to take it I call it close just so I don't have to wait for long while holding all my belongings.
Call them nazis
Learn to squat like true Slav 😆😁
@@BobsVageneagreed I would love someone to fight that and see what legal precedence they have to actively enforce that rule.
I am disabled with 2 crushed discs. I can stand for VERY short amounts of time without pain and stamding upright for any period of time is going to cause pain. Having no benches or places to support my back is awful. It doesn't just hurt people with nothing, it hurts everyone.
U can get a walker with a seat. In fact, with ur condition, u should already have been given one. I'd ask ur dr about getting one for u
sounds like a YOU problem
Isn't it fortunate then that there are laws in all 1st world countries requiring by law that certain standards are maintained for people with a handicap. Because my tax dollars pay for your 3rd grade education as well. @@RangaInHD
@@shannapowers4346 I do training many hours a week explicitly to prevent myself from having to use a walking aid.
Goodluck brother in the same position the state try everything to not help people like us, i'm fucked just like you back problems
It’s crazy, I live on Long Island, a 45 minute drive from the city, and we have benches every .5 miles. A lot of them don’t have the arm holders either.
They can afford to build a billion dollar train station but can’t house the homeless
because the homeless will just trash the housing with their heroin needles and filth. 90% of homeless are just choosing drugs over bettering themselves
The no-seat or almost no-seat train stations are actually kinda common in Europe (but we don't have such a big homeless crysis here). However, you CAN sit on the floor or your luggage. The fact that the security will kick you out for sitting on the floor is probably the most disgusting part of all of this to me.
It's a safety thing rather than a "kick the homeless out" kind of thing. Benches were removed or changed to standing benches to accommodate the overcrowding during rush hours times (so when it is PACKED, nobody accidently gets pushed onto the track, or in the case of sitting, nobody trips over you). I've lived in NYC for about 7 years, and use the subway lines ALL the time. I have never once seen security tell someone to stand up unless it was during rush hour.
@@Turtle-.-ever heard of platform-screen doors...
@@o_s-24 That could be a good fix for the subway, though it likely costs the city way more than just removing benches (our city is suuuuper in debt so they are verrrrry money conscious), but If it were a cheaper option I am sure they would have gone with it to avoid the controversy.
@@Turtle-.-spent a billion dollars on a station is what the video said
@@Turtle-.- Lmao, you're delusional.
My first time in NYC my step dad, who’s a bigger guy with knee problems who is also not used to walking all day, got yelled at for sitting down on the floor in some plaza. At the time we didn’t know why it was such a big deal and were kinda confused why there was no where to sit. Now that I know why it’s just sad that instead of fixing the issue they rather just try to hide it. :/
The Dems have gone full-scale center-right. We no longer have even center-left representation in our politics anymore.
Do they offer wheel chairs like some airports do ? How do handicap folks get around? My husband gets dizzy and needs to sit down,he fell yesterday cuz of it,I'm not able to stand for long periods of time and would be sitting on the floor,I'm not able to sit long either,and while at the ER, I had to go lay down in the handicap dirty bathroom stall floor.
Prohibiting people from sleeping in squares and parks is questionable... Now, prohibiting people from sitting... it's inhumane, it's wrong, man!
@@moladhdodhia164 Prohibiting people from sleeping in squares and parks is questionable... Now, prohibiting people from sitting... it's inhumane, it's wrong, man!
@@alexandermoriarty9167 , I understand so many folks are in a rough place in their life, Chicago and Washington State have a lot of folks in need of housing, especially Washington and Portland.
Solution to ridged/spiked/uneven surfaces: Go to nearest surplus store and obtain military-issue foam sleep mat for a couple bucks, probably less. Or just ask someone currently enlisted in the military or National Guard and they'll probably give you one because though it's issued as part of kit it's almost useless since virtually every deployment has racks.
While it sucks for homeless folks needing warmth, i actually liked the small artistic benches. I walked so much when i visited and having severe back and nerve issues, i needed a few minutes of down time. the benches were great. i personally dont need uber comfort for a break but i can see how others would
They did this in the UK years ago. All the bus shelters were knocked down and a replacement canopy was put up instead, over the top of benches which slant downwards so you can't sleep on them. In some areas they've actually made sleeping rough a criminal act, which you get fined for (as a homeless person) and they collect all your stuff up while you're down at the station and dispose of it in a garbage truck. How any of that is supposed to _help_ anyone is beyond me 🤷♂
Do people not realize that homeless shelters exist?? Sure it's not very stable but it's better than begging for change on the street.
It's pure evil
its obviously not, its supposed to make the cities more beautiful
Until they have forced drug rehab or mental health treatment, this is not even a bandaid for the problem. Arrest and treat.
Helping people should be their goal, not just pushing them away. Those people have to go *somewhere*, preferably somewhere comfortable and safe. I want to know how much is spent on these hostile designs, vs how much it costs to actually address homelessness and try to help those people.
I tried to help someone who had become homeless about twenty years ago, the experience was shocking, what I believed would be humble but sufficient services were instead badly short of being able to meet the needs. Things look worse now.
not everyone can be helped not everyone wants to be helped. I've been homeless twice due to fire and covid costing me a place to live and bouncing back is not easy at all especially when the services to help you get out are not designed to keep you out but set you up to pay as much as you can before falling right back into the rabbit hole.
I was helped out of homelessness 17 years ago and help others get out now. Not everyone is a lost cause or unworthy of empathy
If you don’t have a home you don’t have an address, if you don’t have an address you can’t get a job. It’s a huge trap.
U tried to help him by simply showing him where he can get help? Does that even count?😀
@@lukazupie7220literally yes. The system is designed to be confusing, someone helping you through it is a godsend.
It can be taken a step further into consideration, as it may be that it's actually pretty dystopian passive crowd control.
Well done for pointing these features out. If they are trying to repel tourists in New York then they are definitely going the right way about it. Al of those hard steel and marble edges are also a real safety hazard when you have boisterous children. Is this something to do with why so many people are moving away from New York, do you think?
I'd like to mention, not only is "Hostile architecture" for the homeless, but the population of disabled people who need to rest. Depending on the seat, a five minute rest can turn into fifteen. Not to mention that those that struggle or can't get up from a low seating position can't even use the edge of the sidewalk. This doesn't even take into consideration if one is to over-exert themselves.
Yep this has definitely put me off ever visiting NYC. I don't feel like I should have to use a wheelchair against my will just because my pain and disability can't be accommodated if I choose to walk around, however slowly.
Yes! I'm mildly disabled and neurodivergent, and I think about people who are more disabled than myself often. I can just imagine that on a day when my body is not doing well, I could end up having a meltdown if I sat on some of those, especially the granite. Sure, sitting is good, but then the pain of hard, cold surfaces would trigger other pain/sensory responses.
Es contra los Inmigrantes!!!
Not to mention pregnant people and people with children, as well as people who acutely experience a temporary disability (e.g., someone who gets injured, develops a headache, or contracts an illness).
Yes, can confirm. I am disabled and city design like this hurts me...physically. People really are just shafting disabled and elderly people as hard as possible in order to get to homeless people. It's disgusting.
Okay, that bench isn't just anti-homeless, it's anti-butt. I feel like my butt would hurt sitting on what's literally an ARRAY of metal plates. Also, it feels like a lot of money and effort being spent addressing the symptom and not the root cause.
Root cause: lose some weight, get a job, or move away from the most expensive city w/ horrible politics, no jobs, and doesn’t care about its citizens..
@@nicholass2099 Just wait until you find out there's actually homeless people everywhere.
Inflation In 2023: I'm gonna stop you right there buddy.@@nicholass2099
Pretty much
thats not a bench, proly a vent for the subway
Some of those steel grates were designed to prevent flooding in the event of a major storm (i e. hurricane). I knew better than to suspect it had anything to do with the homeless sleeping atop of them.
7:47 another one of the reasons why they might have made the choice to build it with less seating is because in the future they might expect more frequent train service where trains run frequently enough that you can just walk in and get on a train. Although this kind of design is somewhat common in European train stations, where trains run frequently enough that you can just walk in and get on a train. This is not the case yet for the Northeast Corridor which is where the Moynihan Train Hall is. Amtrak has only recently seen new funding highs but is still lacking the kind of funding to make the frequent service this station may have been designed for.
When I was a cello student at Juilliard in NYC in the late 70's my friend (who commuted a lot during rush hour) always carry with him an ingenious light weight walking stick/cane which converted easily into a little seat! It might be time to bring that idea back!
Yes I was thinking that too. Amazon has a good selection of similar seats.
They sell those walking stick/pull-out seats at my local Dick's Sporting Goods.
Exactly
The cello student at Juiliard was so integral to the story. I would have taken you to be a brass player as you like toot your own horn. Smh
funny !@@andrewhite4431
I live in a city with huge populations of unhoused (L.A.), and the opposite is far worse. Piles of trash and human waste, used needles, tents. The answer is to build more shelters & provide housing/assistance, not make it easier to sleep on the streets.
This guy gets it. I noticed the video was all "wah wah the homeless can't sleep on benches" and barely touches on the much worse issue of the results of letting those public spaces be used as an open sewer.
I live in South Africa, we have a huge homeless problem here. And it's not as bad as what I have seen in Democrat run places like NY and LA. You know it's bad when they had to create a turd app to track all the human crap on the ground.
And yes, I get it, there isn't any other option for mose of these people. As others have mentioned, sometimes this is their choice to live like this. It's not an easy issue to solve. Throwing more money at it in the form of shelters only serves to exacerbate the issue in the long run. As long as there are handouts, there is little impetus for them to change their situation, if it can even be changed.
What makes this even worse is the fact that Biden's Border Buddies that are being bussed up to NY get all the service industry jobs or get put up in hotels for extended stays. Why aren't the homeless getting the same love?
for nyc they need to build even just better shelters since the current ones are garbage and even being closed by the state
All this right here. I am ONE HUNDRED percent in favor of "hostile architecture"
Imagine living in probably the worst city for homeless and whining about it haha.
The guy doing this video is a perfect example of what causes the problems in cities like NYC and LA.
So they ruin the lives of the less-fortunate, and they hurt the lives of the fortunate. Who is this benefiting? Absolutely disgusting.
0:50 I can see the point of this. These are literally air circulation vents. Would not want people covering them with blankets bodies and baggage and dropping crap down into them all the time
Literally...dropping a 'crap' down them.
I used to work at a store where a homeless guy started sleeping on the bench outside under the awning. Everyone was cool with it for about a week until he started pissing and shitting all over the entrance to the store over night and I had to clean it up. It was so rancid you could smell it all the way from the road at the other end of the parking lot. Then we were told to start bringing the bench inside to lock up and told him we didn't want him there anymore. I absolutely understand this stuff. Yeah, not all homeless are like that, but a lot of them are. They're largely methheads or crackheads with no care in the world for being decent to others. Some people are unlucky, but some are completely responsible for their own situations and those people are the ones causing this type of stuff.
so then why the fuck attack the homeless when you yourself say that the problem is hard drugs? Maybe look into that instead? Its not that hard
You try to help in the beginning but then find out the issue is far larger than you can handle. I been there done that long ago and done.
Mental hospitals should be the solution for some not all. There are different types of homeless.
Homeless vets, homeless families, addicted homeless, homeless aged out foster children, homeless, sexually abused children.
In my city we have a small newspaper which list monthly the names of the homeless who passed away on the streets.
That was me you kicked out.... Good times
Wait thats why you got mad? I thought u were cool with it
@@aditiram1837 ofc not
In the early 90’s Penn Station and Grand Central station were taken over by homeless people. Ridership plummeted, crime skyrocketed and they were considering discontinuing night time service.
Instead they removed the homeless camps and made it difficult for that to reoccur.
Everybody seems to conveniently forget that part of it or all the complaining that was happening because of that. Imagine, considering what our "Law & Order policies" have turned into, what Penn, GCT etc. would look like.
Libs don’t care about crime. They think people are stealing Gucci because they need to eat
Everyone complains about getting randomly attacked by homeless people in specific areas. But when the City tries to mediate the problem by removing them from those hotspots, people also complain.
@@LeeeroyJenkins whoever complains about such measures is a child. No, really. If you make it easier for them, then more of them will come and make the situation worse. Just like when you give money away on the street, you're thinking you're helping them, but you're dragging them further into their crisis. Knowing they will aquire money every time they're there they will come back. That's not the way.
@@sLim88CPCso whats "the way"?
Converting a train station into an uncomfortable mall, that's American...
Also they put things like this stuff to prevent skating on the benches. So it's a deterrent for homeless people and skaters. The spot with the bench that has the little granite slope is featured in Session a skateboard simulation game.
Me and my wife stopped going into the city and shopping malls. We are older and finding somewhere to sit is not so easy. An aging population and nowhere to rest, unless you pay a fortune to sit down for a cup of coffee, but you can't keep having cups of coffee to have a sit down, as you walk around the mall/city.
Defensive architecture would still allow you to sit for a bit. As you're probably not going to camp there, this won't impact you at all.
@@personnesenki4521 It is all dependent on how you define "a bit."
Five minutes? 10 minutes? 15 -- you get the idea.
@@queenswillrule These designs don't stop people from sitting. It prevents them from sleeping overnight.
@@queenswillrule it's temporary. It's not supposed to be a place where someone can camp out every night.
@@queenswillrule You can sit all you want you cant comfortably sleep on it. If the cops did their jobs this would not even be an issue.
When i was homeless, i slept on the rocks anyways. There's not much you can do to stop a person from sleeping if theyre desperately tired
"... if theyre desperately tired."
Or sh1tfaced drunk, like 98.7995378 percent of the vagrants and bums in the city where I live.
@@glennmuir5617 You just sound like a bitter person who hates homeless people.
@@glennmuir5617I was probably one of them
@@brianjones9780 The key word in both of your comments is "was".
@@glennmuir5617gotta stay warm
Some how
Zuccotti Park seems like it was more skate-stoped than hobo-stoped. granet is notorious for skaters to grind on. those ridges on the long stretches of Granet are to prevent people from ollieing up onto it for manuals.
We have hostile bench here in Fort Wayne, IN at Georgetown Square in front of Jeff's Coney Dogs. My grandson asked why the bench was made that way and I had no clue. Now I know what to tell him.
Honestly those train stations that force you to stand are terrible for EVERYONE. I'm a 19 year old who is relatively fit but I struggle to stand for long periods of time and not being allowed to even sit on the floor sounds like actual torture for my legs. I can't imagine how someone with a full on disability would navigate that place, or what about people with cardiac problems that have to sit/lay down if their heart rate gets too high?
Wow, this generation is soft.
@@hec53 And stupid.
@@aeoneditingserviceoh shut up. I hate capitalism but your criticisms are such bourgeois lvl complaints.
@@aeoneditingservice you can't just throw around economical critiques as the explanation for things you come across that you don't agree with. It's empty. Most of the benches are taxpayer funded, which means it's not related to capitalism. But please, ramble off more neo-leftist jargon and see what you can string together
@@aeoneditingservice have you even read Marx?
This is eerily similar to what LA is trying to do in terms of benches and park designs. I always wondered why it looks weird and used to think it was just modern city design, but now I get it.
usa have lots of money usa funds that money to support terrorism spread misinformation propaganda against india also regime change operation in india bangladesh and many other countries which usa dont like
I don't understand how New York and California are supposed to be liberal and progressive and yet they treat the homeless like they are rats.
My question is.. Why do all of you people want the homeless to have to endure a miserable life on the streets? Do you really think that a comfortable bench (meant for city folk to use) will give them a quality of life you'd personally find acceptable? Why aren't you donating all your spare cash to build them proper shelter? Instead you come to YT to complain about subway benches being too uncomfortable? Doesn't seem like a good solution to me.
@@3rett115 Most people aren't very financially well off themselves and cannot really afford to help the homeless. It doesn't mean they don't have a heart.
I don't think they "came to UA-cam to complain" I think they saw a UA-cam video pop up, and they clicked on it and joined the discussion...
Also, lots of the people in this comment section do donate.
Good, they should do it, the bums are sticking up everything.
Imagine if they cared that much about helping homeless people get their lives back rather than trying to hurt them even more.
A bit like an airport. Trying to ensure you can’t be too comfortable anywhere without spending money. So you get a table at some restaurant but they give you a tiny table with a slim chair so you move along quickly. “Keep moving body. We don’t want you around.”
Maybe someone did already mention this, but the actual cost for these projects is absolutely insane, people can check the total budget for these kind of stuff, since it's open to public
A budget that could be used to help the homeless situation instead.
They dont want to solve the problem
I'll just say the solution... it'll never be done though.
By contract agreement have homeless go to closed off rehabilitation communities where apartments are provided and utilities, food, supplies are rationed.. guranteed contract UNPAID work which these companies instead put income towards paying rent, food, supplies, etc. and essentially pays off the program.
and turns a profit... the idea to build centers off tax dollars is awful.. people will choose to become homeless just to get scooped into a comfy center where they dont work and get everything...
@@Vuldin7that’s an idealistic proposal. Yes, it may help some but what about the people who choose not to move to your ideal community? The homeless population with mental health issues and drug problems won’t want to abide by the rules that will make your community successful- how do you propose helping them?
I remember trying to get through all of these places as a disabled person, hobbling around with my cane. I had a ticket, but it was in the middle of the night and I was lost. My plane had been delayed due to snow, so I was taking the train to Albany just so I could get home. MY uber driver didn't speak English and dropped me off at the wrong station. I wasn't dressed for snow, I'd fallen in a puddle and my socks were soaked through. I looked awful, I am sure. I was freezing. I must have looked desperate because I was getting haggled right and left. All the security did was scold me for hurrying, and told me not to run. I had 4 minutes to spare when I finally took my seat. It was a miracle I made it home at all. Had I missed it, I would have been stuck in New York overnight with nowhere to stay. I can't imagine, I really can't. The cruelty of people is unreal.
genuinely sorry for you. Give yourself more time. So important. Get to places early. These things happen when you cut your time short. THINK IT OUT STEP BY STEP. Iuse to be a caregiver.
It's the Genuine New York experience!
This is the BEST of what progressive left policies have to offer!
Hope you enjoyed it because this X10 is the future!
I'm a very empathetic person and I almost cried. Keep it together. You are strong.
@@tiffanyohara6364give yourself more time when your plane has been delayed?... Sometimes things don't go to plan.
@@CainXVII Nothing, absolutely nothing ever goes to plan. That is why you should never cut time short..