Hacking the Brain to Treat Tinnitus

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    Tinnitus, or ringing in the ears, often accompanies hearing loss, and usually has no treatment. Now, doctors are targeting the dorsal cochlear nucleus in the brain stem with sounds and vibrations to offer some relief.
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  • @SciShow
    @SciShow  9 місяців тому +17

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    • @FebruaryHas30Days
      @FebruaryHas30Days 9 місяців тому +1

      Saya bermain Duolingo dan belajar bahasa Indonesia

    • @JMill77
      @JMill77 9 місяців тому +5

      I love your channel, but this video should've been 1/3 as long, too much filler

    • @em7dim9
      @em7dim9 9 місяців тому +1

      @@JMill77 He segued into the Babel ad like it was gonna help people's tinnitus.

    • @user-zn4pw5nk2v
      @user-zn4pw5nk2v 9 місяців тому

      If stress can cause hallucinary blindness,
      It could probably also cause hallucinary sounds. Other explanation I've heard is damage to the nerve connected to the inner ear hairs, or the hairs themselves, and focus just removes the effect not the cause of the sound.

    • @henkmagnetic3103
      @henkmagnetic3103 9 місяців тому

      @@FebruaryHas30Days Saya tidak melakukannya, tetapi saya menggunakan Google Translate.

  • @kittykennedyks
    @kittykennedyks 9 місяців тому +1075

    As a person suffering from tinnitus it is very depressing to feel that others don't understand the impact it causes on the affected person. This video gives me a glimpse of hope. 😄

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому +30

      The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 3 times a day. *Magnesium provides protection* against permanent hearing loss.

    • @Johnnyde94v2
      @Johnnyde94v2 9 місяців тому +10

      I can empathize

    • @kaikash
      @kaikash 9 місяців тому

      Does it go away after you take the supplements and does it come back after not taking them?
      @@scotthenrie5148

    • @cfilorvyls457
      @cfilorvyls457 9 місяців тому +20

      I've had tinnitus for as long as I can remember and I never at any point have I ever thought it bothered me. Sometimes I wondered how loud it is for other people who feels bothered by it.

    • @kittykennedyks
      @kittykennedyks 9 місяців тому

      @@scotthenrie5148 is the treatment doctor prescribed? I also heard magnesium helps. Glad it had helped you.

  • @artmei1354
    @artmei1354 9 місяців тому +294

    "Which...technically correct, but that still makes you a jerk." Trusted scientific information are what I'm always here for watching scishow.

    • @prapanthebachelorette6803
      @prapanthebachelorette6803 9 місяців тому +12

      Sometimes common sense is not so common. In case someone kinda lacks empathy, this has to be emphasized again sometimes 😅

    • @freedustin
      @freedustin 9 місяців тому +5

      @@prapanthebachelorette6803 In 2023 you have to explain that common sense means things you'd commonly learn if you were outside doing things with your life...

  • @choo_choo_
    @choo_choo_ 9 місяців тому +662

    I've had it my entire life to the point that I thought that the ringing was something EVERYONE had and that it was the ears functioning "normally".
    I once made a comment to a group of friends about it as an adult, and they told me that none of them had anything like that. Up until that point in my life I had NO clue that "normal" silence didn't have a constant ringing in the background. The sound never caused me anxiety before, but now there's points when I'm trying to sleep that it becomes deafening. The volume hasn't changed, but the realization that it shouldn't be there and I can't help but concentrate on it really bothers me.
    I once thought I was clever and figured if I could figure out the frequency and play the sound at an inverted phase I could cancel out the ringing via phase cancellation, but unfortunately it was a pipe dream and doesn't work because the sound isn't "real" and thus there's no phase to cancel.
    Sucks, man. Hope there's a real treatment someday. I really wonder what "quiet" actually sounds like.

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому +20

      The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 3 times a day. *Magnesium provides protection* against permanent hearing loss.

    • @pandoravex4791
      @pandoravex4791 9 місяців тому +16

      As someone that has the same issue and have had it since a small child (almost your same story to a T.) what’s helped me is this blindfold with built in headphones and putting rainstorm/thunder sounds, as long as the sound is consistent not much pause. Brown noise is also pretty good for me too. The blindfold/headphone thing is pretty inexpensive, just make sure you read the reviews that the headphones are comfortable to sleep in.

    • @tphotos3485
      @tphotos3485 9 місяців тому +16

      That's just like me! I remember listening at night when I was about 5 and wondering how people just fell asleep. I grew up christian and thought I was "listening to the universe", but when I tried to describe to my friends how the universe has a "ringing hum" to it when I was maybe 15, I got some really weird looks and that's when I knew.... probably not a normal thing.
      But doctors don't really believe me, and will tell me it's stress or something because I couldn't have had it as a child all the way until now (two decades later) without hearing loss.

    • @NeiroAtOpelCC
      @NeiroAtOpelCC 9 місяців тому +20

      I sort of relate. I got glasses when I was 17 and was blown away by the 'hi res' world I didn't know existed. Didn't know I had bad eyesight until then.

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому +2

      @@NeiroAtOpelCC needing glasses can be prevented with magnesium, which maintains the structure and function of the eye.
      ⚠️ Up to 80% of people don't get the RDA for Mg because modern farming practices are depleting Mg from the soil.

  • @angelitabecerra
    @angelitabecerra 9 місяців тому +282

    As someone who suffers from Tinnitus, I can tell you it's rough

    • @christianadam2907
      @christianadam2907 9 місяців тому +17

      Agreed, I did not experience silence in 20 years. And i have it in both ears with different frequencies 😮‍💨

    • @BrotherAlpha
      @BrotherAlpha 9 місяців тому +3

      I have intermittent Tinnitus. If I try to sleep in a very quiet room, it can kick in loud enough to wake me up, so I have to sleep with some noise. I sleep with music in the background and that helps.

    • @bigdoublehappy
      @bigdoublehappy 9 місяців тому

      I have it for 10 years and will seek out serious treatment once enough devices are tested and no long-term issues arise. In the meantime there's a company in Ireland called Lenire and they have a new device. I've got my eye on that one. I think I read that the device is about $3,000 or thereabouts

    • @Halokrogg
      @Halokrogg 9 місяців тому +4

      I’ve got in both ears as well. Getting some actual silence would be golden.

    • @angelitabecerra
      @angelitabecerra 9 місяців тому

      @@Halokrogg Same and agreed

  • @MJbramham90
    @MJbramham90 9 місяців тому +204

    Had tinnitus in my right ear for three years. Fortunately my tinnitus isn't as loud as some people's but its still annoying from time to time when I notice it, usually at night when in bed. Hopefully, thanks to treatments like this, I might one day hear silence again.

    • @extrastuff9463
      @extrastuff9463 9 місяців тому +9

      Very familiar, mine is always there but I'm not really bothered by the tinnitus during most of the day. The hearing lossin my right ear is more bothersome, it's bad enough that I deliberately plan where I sit so my left ear can do most of the work yet not "bad enough" that a hearing aid would help me.
      The tinnitus however does really annoy me when I'm in a quiet places including the bed, once you start paying attention to it it's almost as if the tinnitus volume goes crazy and it becomes even more annoying. But having a bluetooth speaker at low volume near the pillow and starting a chapter of an audiobook I've already read before (with a set timeout period) seems to be a nice way to distract myself from the tinnitus while not being too interesting to stay awake very long due to thinking about the book.
      Actual relief from the problem would be great, like you stated to be able to hear silence again. But at least I can manage the nuisance most of the time.

    • @sogerc1
      @sogerc1 9 місяців тому +3

      Since I've moved out from the noisy city my tinnitus has been more manageable. I hear a 3 tone high pitch ringing but sometimes it goes down to 1 or 2 and there were short periods when I didn't even hear anything. Unfortunately I have to go back to the city to work but even being home 2/3 of the time helps. And also, my house is new, there's a lot of work with it and the angle grinder and other tools are no help even with earpro.

    • @weirdredpanda
      @weirdredpanda 9 місяців тому +3

      I have it in my left ear. The only way I can deal with it is to distract myself or listen to something louder than it.

    • @josephm6920
      @josephm6920 9 місяців тому +2

      I get tinnitus in my right ear too. I had it near-constant for around a year and then it became something i only noticed every now & then, especially when i start thinking about it

    • @MephitisUK
      @MephitisUK 9 місяців тому

      I've been listening to rain noise videos when I'm going to sleep, I find it helps quite a lot.

  • @itsirkeel
    @itsirkeel 9 місяців тому +107

    To all of my fellow tinnitus sufferers--- look! We're not alone! Even though having an ongoing sparking din that truly nobody who isn't me can hear is not awesome, I'm grateful we know it is a condition. Hoping for more ways to tune it down! For now, I've creatively used the experience of tinnitus in my story writing.

    • @hippocataclysm37
      @hippocataclysm37 9 місяців тому +1

      I love that you've used it as something to help in your creativity and I wish to do the same someday. Cheers!

    • @itsirkeel
      @itsirkeel 9 місяців тому +2

      @@hippocataclysm37 Thank you for magnifying that creative reframing! I've added it as a kind of singularly unique and 'magical' element to their lived experiences-- trying to infuse how I feel into their story, I suppose!

    • @3abxo390
      @3abxo390 9 місяців тому

      Maybe try neurofeedback?.. 🤷‍♂️

  • @caspenbee
    @caspenbee 9 місяців тому +142

    Mine is genetic -- as a kid, I decided the strange noises I sometimes heard that no one else did were pulses of magic energy! I think that really helped me have a positive association instead of the anxiety many people feel about their tinnitis. To this day when I get a wave of it, it makes me smile.
    That said, so glad there's treatment progress for others!!

    • @torcheddreadnought899
      @torcheddreadnought899 9 місяців тому +6

      It's the sound of silence

    • @kuy3796
      @kuy3796 9 місяців тому +4

      That's kinda beautiful :)

    • @98Zai
      @98Zai 9 місяців тому +2

      It started out as bouts of random beeps that would go away for me. After many years of listening to way too loud music to drown out bus noises it got to the point where it's constant. Protect your ears, friend!

    • @forixiom7410
      @forixiom7410 9 місяців тому

      ​@@torcheddreadnought899 I also thought the same.

    • @3abxo390
      @3abxo390 9 місяців тому

      Maybe try neurofeedback?..

  • @billyfugate4823
    @billyfugate4823 9 місяців тому +31

    I've had tinnitus my entire life as far back as I can remember. Being 3 years old sitting quietly in a silent room wondering what the sound was. In a way I feel like that has made me very fortunate because it is something that has just been normal for me. Watching people I know who have developed tinnitus later in life and how drastically worse they are able to cope with it really made me understand just how disruptive this condition can be. I hope this research sees great success and even greater success in public availability.

    • @nanner3135
      @nanner3135 9 місяців тому

      Me to, somehow I feel it's easier that I was born with it because I hated it so much when I was little but by 8 I was like eh silence = ringing and accepting it has got to be hard for people who get it later on in life

  • @jodimeadows
    @jodimeadows 9 місяців тому +4

    Big thank you for NOT adding the ringing sounds as a demonstration.

  • @melodyszadkowski5256
    @melodyszadkowski5256 9 місяців тому +82

    I have dealt with tinnitus for over 30 years. It is maddening at times and fluctuates from barely there to high-pitched shrieking. I am taking this episode to my doctor at the VA hospital and see if they have caught on to this research. It's such a lovely rush to find out that at least progress is being made. Part of me just wants to know what triggers it (nerd alert) and the rest just wants to leave me in peace. Thanks muchly for this one.

    • @Chrismas815
      @Chrismas815 9 місяців тому +5

      You may want to get your hearing tested. Sometimes hearing loss can exasperate tinnitus, and hearing aids can help "mask" the perceived ringing. The VA may be able to get you free HA's

    • @JuleahStrickland
      @JuleahStrickland 9 місяців тому +1

      @melodyszadkowski5255 I was thinking the same thing. My docs at my VA are pretty to UTD on new or different treatments and the like, so I have some hope.

    • @emmasnow2335
      @emmasnow2335 9 місяців тому +1

      please let us know what your doctors say!

    • @dinf8940
      @dinf8940 9 місяців тому +1

      what 'triggers' (causes) it? very simple, unexpected output from cochlear nerve - which in turn can be caused by anything from developmental impingement (very rare) to exotoxins permeating from infection/colonization in surrounding tissues (most common, typically the offender is pseudomonal colonization of cochlear structures - a leftover from some past, usually ignored infection)

    • @ProjectExMachina
      @ProjectExMachina 9 місяців тому

      My tinnitus was effectively gone while I was under SSRI. It did took 3-4 months to disappear though but it was back few months after I stopped taking them

  • @ecurps1
    @ecurps1 9 місяців тому +48

    The fact they rotated testers with treatments is awesome to me. I know that isn't feasible for a lot of studies, but it feels like a step in good direction to help test and learn about these types of procedures.

  • @ibarzabal
    @ibarzabal 9 місяців тому +67

    I always had tinnitus, but for most of my life it was very mild, I could only "hear" it when in complete silence, so until a couple of years I always thought it was the "sound of silence"
    It was a surprise to me when one day I mentioned to a friend "hey you know, that noise you hear when in silence?" and my friend could not understand
    That was when I learned it was tinnitus
    I am 50 years old now, it has unfortunatelly increased, but my brain kinda ignores it, unless I remember, then I can hear it very loud.
    It also thankfuly does not impair my hearing. My tinnitus is as if it comes from "inside" my hear, not the ears, so it is difficult to explain how sometimes the tinnitus is very loud, but i can still hear milder sounds.
    It IS annoying yes, and I only wish science could find a definitive cure.

    • @eleanorbanwell3478
      @eleanorbanwell3478 9 місяців тому +1

      I’m not sure it’s tinnitus… Buddhists talk about using the sound of silence as an ever present meditation subject just like the breath. On the very rare occasions I’ve been surrounded by absolute silence, there is a hum/whine I can hear. I don’t really like using it to meditate, partly because I’m worried once I really tune into it, I won’t be able to tune it back out again and it will become tinnitus, but it’s definitely there if I choose to look for it. I suspect your friend may just not ever have been somewhere quiet enough to hear it 🤷

    • @ibarzabal
      @ibarzabal 9 місяців тому +1

      @@eleanorbanwell3478 That is very interesting. I didnt mention but there is also another issue I always had, and I dont know if it is related.
      First, when a kid I did just like what you said. sometimes i was curious and focused on the "sound" when in silence, and then that sound would grow, grow, grow, and then I would feel nausea. The sound would become a wave, which also made me dizzy and super scared
      Also didnt mention another issue (i dont know if it is a medical condition) but when I was a kid this came to me without control and would cause me to really feel bad, but as an adult it only comes to me if I pay attention:
      I dont know what it is, but it feels like if I pay attention, all sounds carry like an emotion, you know like when someone tells you something, and you feel the emotion in the conversation, like anger, fear, etca?
      So when a kid (and not only if i focus on this, thank god) all of a sudden all noises in the world would carry emotions as if the noises were people talking, but with no meaning
      It would be like being in a crowd, some people shouting at me, others crying, others happy... HORRIBLE
      I would have to get up, turn on the lights, and try to focus on some comic book or something else, so the sounds would not carry emotions anymore
      I still feel that, if i pay attention to the air conditioning, it is as if someone meditating, or a car... it is as if a crazy person is talking to me... of the trees singing
      I dont know if that is a problem, actually as an adult i dont worry anymore like i said, it only happens when i pay attention....
      I dont know if my brain has a problem, but i just hope not...

    • @MysticWanderer
      @MysticWanderer 9 місяців тому +5

      @@eleanorbanwell3478 I can assure anyone that does not know that these are two separate things. I have experienced both. You can actually hear the sound of blood passing through the vessels in your ears. If you want to experience this without going into an anechoic chamber or some other place of "total silence" just put a conch shell to your ear to hear "the sea". The sound of "the sea" that you hear is actually what I described above. This is NOT tinnitus. In my case the tinnitus is so loud I can't experience the "sound of silence" just in a quiet room like I once could. Now I could be in a crowded noisy bar and still hear my tinnitus and I can hear very faint sounds, often with other noises around but am so focused on trying to ignore the "bad" sound that I often won't know someone is talking to me until I see them or hear something distinctly obvious that it is directed at me. Beethoven is quoted as saying “Sometimes, I cannot hear people who speak quietly, I can hear the sounds, but not the words” and “my ears, they still keep buzzing and humming day and night”. Oh, the agony and the truth of those statements. A PA system might as well be an adult talking to Charlie Brown for all I can make of it.

    • @Psilomuscimol
      @Psilomuscimol 9 місяців тому

      ​@eleanorbanwell3478 . Maybe it's the sound of your molecules vibrations, and only some people are sensitive enough to hear it. Probably not, but it's a good thing to think about.

    • @harmonicaveronica
      @harmonicaveronica 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ibarzabalif the emotions you hear are the same every time you hear that noise, and it's not just that you associate noises with certain emotions, that might be synesthesia

  • @DJRaffa1000
    @DJRaffa1000 9 місяців тому +17

    I've only ever experienced the short-lived (few minutes long) "tinnitus" that comes from circulatory problems (the ones that randomly come out of nowhere and usually go away within a couple of minutes)
    And man, I can't even begin to imagine how hard it must be for people who experience that every minute of every day.
    Glad to see there might be help on the way

    • @marcypitbull
      @marcypitbull 9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah I had that once a year or so, now I have it constantly in both ears. It's horrible and a torture to endure

    • @ketchup016
      @ketchup016 9 місяців тому +1

      Is that what it's from, circulation issues? I always joke I wandered into a high-pressure system because that's what it feels like, and sometimes yawning or popping my ears helps.

  • @not-a-boar3148
    @not-a-boar3148 9 місяців тому +14

    What really trips me out is this isn't considered a debilitating disease even though it literally takes my ability to concentrate away. I used to do complex 6 step math in my head but as the years went on I can no longer concentrate that long before the ringing takes over.

    • @heathermcdaniel5668
      @heathermcdaniel5668 9 місяців тому +2

      And sleep! It affects my sleep since I was a child. I have to have a sound machine to help me "focus" on that sound, instead of the one in my head. It is so hard to focus on other things when there is a constant humming, or buzzing in the ears. It really can be debilitating for sure! I often wonder if Schizophrenia somehow started with people who had different frequency tinnitus, thinking the sounds are words?

    • @not-a-boar3148
      @not-a-boar3148 9 місяців тому +1

      @heathermcdaniel5668 your last point first: it's interesting you say that because tinnitus runs in my family and my great grandfather was "schizophrenic" to the point of self deletion. I often wonder if he just had major tinnitus and diagnosis was just trash in the 40s.
      Point the second: I sleep to trash cartoons like family guy and American dad. I can ignore it but it holds enough sound attention to be a distraction from the whirrrrrrrrr

  • @fiveminutefridays
    @fiveminutefridays 9 місяців тому +89

    I'm hoping this kind of association-breaking approach can be used for other things like chronic pain

    • @somedudeok1451
      @somedudeok1451 9 місяців тому +10

      Sounds like it might be possible. Especially for phantom pain, which seems similar to tinnitus.

    • @craigbryant9925
      @craigbryant9925 9 місяців тому +3

      As someone who suffers with both, I had the same thought (or hope).

  • @vvvvvvvvvwv
    @vvvvvvvvvwv 9 місяців тому +5

    Someone taught me this trick and it’s been the only thing that gives me temporary relief from the ringing. Cover your ears with your palms firmly and tap on the back of your head with your fingers for 10 seconds or so.

  • @brothaMan84
    @brothaMan84 9 місяців тому +17

    I have tinnitus since I was in 6th grade. I’m used to it now at my age of 30, but during my younger years it made me severely depressed. I can hear ringing if I focus on it now but back then I felt like I was suffering. Either way everyone, day by day you will adjust and be happy =]

  • @GhostsOfThings
    @GhostsOfThings 9 місяців тому +9

    This is something I've been struggling with for 3 years now and the thought that maybe someday I won't have to anymore is just amazing.

  • @Beetle_beech
    @Beetle_beech 9 місяців тому +11

    Ive had tinnitus fir as long as i can remember, as a kid i would hold my head and cry because the noise was so overwhelming and there was just nothing i could do! I really hope this kind of treatment goes somewhere, even just slight relief would make so much difference

  • @merlapittman5034
    @merlapittman5034 9 місяців тому +36

    I've got a mild case of tinnitus, so this is very interesting for me, especially because of the possibility that it could get worse. Thanks!

    • @SinHurr
      @SinHurr 9 місяців тому +2

      Ho oh boy, can it ever get worse.

    • @GustavSvard
      @GustavSvard 9 місяців тому +1

      And if people like you can get this treatment early in the progression of the tinnitus, will the progression slow down or maybe even stop? Something we probably can't know till years after this treatment becomes available. But it sounds like it could be true, doesn't it? could. i.e. worth studying.

    • @merlapittman5034
      @merlapittman5034 9 місяців тому

      @SinHurr That's right, cheer me up! 🤣 I'm hoping for it to stay low-key since I'm already old!

    • @SpookiCooki
      @SpookiCooki 9 місяців тому

      Oh yes it can get worse. The volume can go up and more noises can be added. I have 2, a high-pitched tone and a ringing.

    • @theStumblinbear
      @theStumblinbear 9 місяців тому

      Not "can go up" it WILL go up

  • @kevinsayes
    @kevinsayes 9 місяців тому +17

    There are some tinnitus masking/notching videos on YT with very strange and high pitched tones that really work well. Also, I am bipolar and have generalized anxiety, and while it is well treated, when I’m manic or my anxiety is sky high, the tinnitus is many times worse. If you have mental health issues you deal with, doing what you need to to find equanimity before bed etc can really help cut down the noise. Hang in there everyone

    • @Chrismas815
      @Chrismas815 9 місяців тому +1

      Notch therapy is a little more complicated and should be consulted with a hearing care practitioner

    • @pilotavery
      @pilotavery 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Chrismas815you just match the amplitude and frequency of it and then notch that out of everyday sound with hearing aids, or you notch it out while listening to white noise

    • @KatiTheButcher
      @KatiTheButcher 9 місяців тому

      Im also bipolar but the tinnitus fails to annoy me. I've had it over 10 years though.

  • @JacksMelancholy
    @JacksMelancholy 9 місяців тому +19

    Been dealing with tinnitus for the past 7 months after a biking accident.
    If you ever wanna see what a circle of hell looks like, check out the comments section of a long form tinnitus relief video.

    • @outlawbillionairez9780
      @outlawbillionairez9780 9 місяців тому +7

      At 72, and tinnitus for decades, the tinnitus is getting louder, as my hearing diminishes! Salt on the wound! 😤

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому

      @@outlawbillionairez9780 the volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 4+ times a day. *Magnesium provides protection* against permanent hearing loss.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart 9 місяців тому

      @@outlawbillionairez9780 - I am so sorry. Hopefully, this device will become available ASAP.

    • @vegetossgss1114
      @vegetossgss1114 9 місяців тому +1

      We, tinnitus sufferers, need to create secured website which will allow us to give money to fund tinnitus research.
      Something with a number, to motivate us to give even more.
      And the money should be given to most promising solutions, to actually reduce or even eliminate tinnitus.
      Instead of being passive, we can now, thanks to internet and digitalisation, at our level, be part of the solution!

  • @pandoravex4791
    @pandoravex4791 9 місяців тому +37

    What helps me sleep as someone who has tinnitus, is this blindfold/headphone combination, I got from Amazon. Dirty cheap, and I play rainstorm/thunderstorm sounds. I sleep like a baby with it. Brown noise sounds (as dumb as it sounds) also helps me. There’s apparently a whole rainbow of different white noise frequencies, and I highly recommend you check out which one kinda helps negate it to a certain extent. The blindfold/headphones are pretty cheap, just read the review on wether the speakers bother people, and also check the material in case you are sensitive to heat around your face. I can’t sleep without mine.
    I’ve had Tinnitus since I was a young child, so I didn’t know that was an issue until mom was watching a movie where a war survivor developed the ringing in the ear (it sounded louder than mine) and I’m like wait… that’s not normal? My mom looked at me like I grew a second head. 😂

    • @MysticWanderer
      @MysticWanderer 9 місяців тому +2

      I'll add fan noise, wind chimes, river or nature, train and snow storm/blizzard sounds to that . Also low volume or whispered stories (like audiobooks but more inclusive). Just be sure that whatever it is you won't care if you miss the rest of it as you are trying to fall asleep. A story you know well or don't care in the least about could be something to try. If you type ASMR into UA-cam you will find a plethora of things audio and visual. For tinnitus - and especially sleep - audio is of course what matters but for some the visual elements could help with relaxation depending on the theme and the specific viewer combination. Also some "videos" are just audio and black screen which is usually in the title. I use a face down iphone with an account created specifically for ASMR so that the feed is not muddied by other interests and with autoplay enabled so it will continue. Then subscriptions and likes/dislikes help the algorithm feed you what you want. Some of them are 3-10 hours long.
      I have one of those blindfold/headphone things too but I often have my ear to the pillow so it was not easy to find one that worked for me and I only use it when the tinnitus is so loud that I have to basically drown it out or go insane until exhaustion and a slight easing of the tinnitus finally allows me to fall asleep for the last couple of hours before I have to get ready for work. I had some luck with bone conduction headphones as well.
      I almost forgot that there are also sound apps for phones etc. I have a rain sounds one called Rain Sounds HQ (I think only iphone) that I specifically play the Cologne Thunderstorm.

    • @CWorgen5732
      @CWorgen5732 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@MysticWanderer ugh, I get ASMR but I also have misophonia. Whispered stories sounds like it would be literal torture 😂
      the ones that give me good chills are the soap carving or moon-sand cutting ones.

    • @MysticWanderer
      @MysticWanderer 9 місяців тому

      @@CWorgen5732 Yeah, highly personal and for me can vary by the day. If you are interested in non-whispered spoken word search ASMR Aurette. I could listen to her read the phone book. Alas because too many people online are @$$#0!3s she left the space for her own sanity and safety based on some things I have read. My list before doesn't even come close to being complete on what is out there. Singing bowls, hand pan, trivia, map tracing, cosplay (sometimes very elaborate) are just a few more. There is also the "unintentional ASMR" videos also. It is a really deep rabbit hole. But then when you can't sleep because of the siren in your head you find yourself with time to dive into a rabbit hole and the motivation to do it in the hopes something will help.

    • @vegetossgss1114
      @vegetossgss1114 9 місяців тому +1

      We, tinnitus sufferers, need to create secured website which will allow us to give money to fund tinnitus research.
      Something with a number, to motivate us to give even more.
      And the money should be given to most promising solutions, to actually reduce or even eliminate tinnitus.
      Instead of being passive, we can now, thanks to internet and digitalisation, at our level, be part of the solution!

  • @nickbakker2200
    @nickbakker2200 9 місяців тому +8

    Wear your hearing protection kids! Have a pair of plugs with you any time you go to a venue even if the music might be relatively low volume to a big concert. And get some noise cancelling headphones so you don't have to dial up the volume that much.
    Fortunately my tinnitus is now extremely bearable somehow, I'm not even conscious of it 95% of the time. But the first two/three months after it began were awful.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart 9 місяців тому

      @nickbakker2200 - Good advice for people who have not yet damaged their hearing. There are quite a few well-known rockers who have tinnitus now and even hearing loss.

  • @AMVH2012
    @AMVH2012 9 місяців тому +19

    Distressing, more annoying and I wish it would stop. My tinnitus never causes me distress. It can be irritating and on rare occasions be so loud that I have trouble making out what people are saying. It's annoying when it keeps me up but I ignore it and fall asleep. I guess it doesn't bother me as much because I grew up with it.

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому

      The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 4+ times a day.

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому

      The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 4+ times a day.

  • @DruNature
    @DruNature 9 місяців тому +15

    OH GOD I NEED THIS!! as a metalhead, drummer, and audio engineer my hearing is so critical and I unfortunately didn't wear enough ear protection early on and my left ear is just getting worse every concert I attend or play and every recording I mix. it's kinda sad, music is my life, but HEY - at least righty still works pretty damn well! Stay strong people, there is hope sometimes in some cases!

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому

      The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 4+ times a day. *Magnesium provides protection* against permanent hearing loss.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart 9 місяців тому +4

      @@scotthenrie5148 - What is the physiological mechanism that makes that work? Did your ENT prescribe it? I am skeptical.

    • @MossyMozart
      @MossyMozart 9 місяців тому +3

      @DruNature - Be sure to tell the up and coming musicians you meet to wear that ear protection!

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому

      @@MossyMozart I had it verified by an ENT, neurologist, and my primary care physician after I told them that the endocrinologist I see taught me about how long-term tinnitus is from calcification of the basal ganglia, and how _"Calcium is directly influenced by the amounts of _*_vitamin K_*_ in the body as it affects processes, such as the calcification of blood vessels, maturation of sperm in the testes and bone formation."_

    • @CWorgen5732
      @CWorgen5732 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@scotthenrie5148and it's not messing with your blood clotting?

  • @ferguson8143
    @ferguson8143 9 місяців тому +12

    Mine sound like the locust you hear in the summer in the trees its constantly there until i go to sleep and back when i wake up been that way close to 20 years now im 38 years old

    • @outlawbillionairez9780
      @outlawbillionairez9780 9 місяців тому +2

      Mine sounds like air leaking. High pitched. I'm 72,worked around loud machinery and motorcycles all my adult life.

    • @Catastropheshe
      @Catastropheshe 9 місяців тому +3

      I feel bad for you guys, I wonder why brain isn't ignoring sth that is constantly triggering "sound" like it's ignoring repeating smell or view signals... Why not hearing

    • @ajchapeliere
      @ajchapeliere 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Catastropheshemaybe a combo of the info we get from the sense and how the sensory input happens? Hearing allows us to locate things outside of our field of view (eg behind us) more accurately than smell, so maintaining the full auditory range would be important for escaping danger. And one of the common causes of tinnitus is thought to be physical damage to the little hair-like structures in our inner ears. So it's more like a light switch that's stuck in the "on" position, while smell is the result of a bunch of different chemicals bonding to a bunch of different receptors in our noses. The human body is a really fascinating thing

  • @hairytick7882
    @hairytick7882 9 місяців тому +8

    For anyone curious what tinnitus could sound like (my personal flavor) is like the stereotypical "shell-shocked" noise you hear in action movies after an explosion where everything goes quiet except for a high pitched "EEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeee" noise.
    But it's all the time forever and sometimes layers other "EEE"s into itself if it is feeling particularly saucy that day.
    So please, my dear science humans, say more.

    • @tunneloflight
      @tunneloflight 9 місяців тому

      I developed subjective tonal tinnitus when LED lights became common in late 2016. The trigger was the 120 hertz flicker the lights produce. You can’t visually see that. Our brains can.
      In trying to sort out what was happening I concluded that the flicker confused my brain into thinking that there was movement in the world. That is either danger or opportunity. But our eyes and brain couldn’t find the movement. It was and is everywhere. But since my brain couldn’t find the danger another part of the brain directed my ears to listen closely to find the source of the danger using sound. In doing that it both turns up the amplification, and worse it directs the ear to reactivate dead hair cell circuits.
      You know those - the high pitched whistle that happens every now and then, then rapidly turns down and goes silent. That is an outer hair cell in the ear that hears sound dying, then being disabled automatically.
      Now imagine what happens when our brains turn on those dead hair cells and crank up the volume as they our brain searches for the danger.
      This involves a bunch of different parts of the brain beyond those described here in this video. Key among them are the lateral geniculate nuclei, the superior colliculus, the medial geniculate nucleus, the inferior colliculus, the insula, the precuneus and more.
      The primary interaction seems to be the flicker causing the brain to perceive danger. The brain then telling the ears to listen for the danger, screwing up and reactivating dead outer hair cells, with the result being tinnitus.
      That touch is also involved through these other two circuits is unsurprising. These are all primitive functions in the brain. It is especially neat though that tying together touch with sound can turn that back down.
      I also now wonder about the rate of tinnitus in the population over time. I suspect (but do not know) that tinnitus was uncommon prior to the use of fluorescent lighting, and much less common prior to the use of AC power. The frequencies that trigger tinnitus are often about 60 hertz. This has been thought to be as a result of the “flicker fusion threshold”. I believe it is far more likely to be based on the 50 or 60 hertz frequency used for power around the world, and now with the advent of LED lights which flicker at twice the mains frequency that 100 and 120 hertz will be the major drivers of tinnitus.

    • @fredericapanon207
      @fredericapanon207 9 місяців тому

      @@tunneloflight interesting hypothesis. We are exposed to a lot of fluorescent and LED devices both at work and at home.
      I have replaced incandescent and compact fluorescent lights at home with LED lights. Certainly a flicker rate of 120Hz is a lot less perceivable than 60Hz. I used to be able to hear a 60Hz hum from fluorescent tubes with slightly wonky ballasts. I cannot say that I have heard a 120Hz hum from LED lights so far.
      Perhaps I'll replace my bedside lamp bulb with an incandescent to see if that makes a difference.

    • @tunneloflight
      @tunneloflight 9 місяців тому

      @@fredericapanon207 LED lights (with rare exceptions) are extremely hazardous. The most dangerous part is the blue light emission, which is well beyond true safety standards. The blue light activates the ipRGC in the eyes which tell the pineal gland to not make melatonin, which then disrupts both the circadian rhythm and hormone cycles. That leads to dramatic increases in bread, prostate and intestinal cancers. (all hormone related cancers). A Spanish study in 2018 showed that streetlights alone led to a 50% increase in Breast cancer rates, and to a 105% increase in prostate cancers. LED lights are at a minimum IARC Group 2A (corrected) probable human carcinogens, and more likely properly classed as IARC Group 1 (corrected) confirmed human carcinogens. As it turns out, fluorescent lights before LEDs are major culprits there as well.
      The flicker hazard is a separate issue. It has different effects on different people that are dependent on genetics, neural response speed, eye and brain function related to flicker, and more. Experts on vision and the brain have focused on the frame rate at which the brain creates imagery and presents it to the mind - at about 20-25 frames per second. And about the "flicker fusion" threshold, where flicker is no longer consciously perceptible.
      What they neglect is that the eye and brain can and due process faster than consciousness. The eyes send a differentiated signal of the visual field to the lateral geniculate nuclei. Those in combination with the superior colliculus accomplish many functions. Among them is detecting edges, motion and danger, and then directing the gaze to the motion before the conscious brain is ever aware that anything happened.
      With high speed flicker, the LGN sees the entire visual field as moving and hence a potential danger. The SC is unable to direct the gaze to the motion. And they then send a signal to the precuneus and activate the default mode network warning of the danger. That too is not able to resolve it and involves more of the brain.
      Among these, through several potential circuits, the medial geniculate nuclei, the dorsal cochlear nuclei, and the fusiform cells directly the ears to listen more closely to locate the apparent and unresolved danger. This then seems to result in a huge error. The ears in trying to listen more closely seen to re-energize outer hair cells that were previously turned off because those hairs had died (the scream you hear every now and then that goes away). And they amplify the signals resulting in the many forms of tinnitus.
      When that still does not resolve, other parts of the brain enter the picture and also fail. The result can be optical migraines and temporary blindness for about 30 minutes, full blown migraine headaches, and gastrointestinal and bladder distress.
      Problems like these were noted early in the fielding of fluorescent lights. Most people it seems are more susceptible to 60 hertz flicker that those lights had, than to the 120 hertz flicker (100 in most of the world),
      However, beyond this there are studies showing increased rates of headaches with flicker frequencies up to at least 500 hertz, and possibly as high as 5,000 hertz.
      The reason to replace the lights you are exposed to in the bedroom and the two hours before sleep is less about flicker or glare, and much more about circadian disruption and cancer.

    • @MrFram
      @MrFram 9 місяців тому

      @@tunneloflight I think that might not be some illusion from light but actual noise. I noticed many electrical appliances produce barely-audible high pitch noise. If you listen closely, you can even tell whether or not a phone is done charging based on the noise the charger makes

  • @daveharruk
    @daveharruk 9 місяців тому +6

    I have suffered from Tinnitus for several years mainly due to hearing loss in one ear since a child but this is a very promising development. My tinnitus gets worse in cold weather or with more stress so I totally understand that it is about senses other than the ear. My GP has said basically there is nothing that can be done but even audiologists have little to offer except better hearing aids,which to be fair do help a bit. I think many people fail to understand it properly or acknowledge the effect it can have on people's quality of life

  • @suicicada
    @suicicada 9 місяців тому +4

    I've had it for so long now that I've managed to cope with it but I'm glad scientist are finding real world solutions to this problem. Can't wait for the chance to try out this treatment in the future!

  • @SWTORDREKKIN
    @SWTORDREKKIN 9 місяців тому +2

    I developed tinnitus two years ago. At first I was going crazy. Fortunately, this is a situation where you have control about how you feel about not having control. Read that again! You might not be able to turn it off, but you can accept it, and once you do, it pretty much vanishes. The emotional response to not being able to turn it off magnifies the intensity (perception). I can promise you 100% that if you let yourself become bothered by it, it will drive you insane. The solution is simple and entirely in your control: Accept it. Stop trying to fight it, stop trying to mask it and stop trying to run away from it. Your brain is intelligent - Just like with OCD, if you don't learn to accept it and stop running from it, it will become stronger and dominate your life. I have it right now (as I tune into it) and in a few moments I will stop hearing it, not because it stopped, but because my brain will tune it out and it does this because I have chosen not to be bothered by it. Think of that fridge that hums in the background. Does it bother you? No, it doesn't. What bothers you is the lack of control. You know you can walk away from the fridge, or unplug it, but that you cannot do this with your tinnitus. This is the primary reason, I believe, that upsets people. It is the idea that they cannot escape the sound. The more you try, the worse it gets. Our brain pays attention to things that bother us (this can be applied to many areas of life) and so learning to accept things that you have no control over is a skill that will help you in so many areas of life. I wish everyone the best with this, but ultimately, the solution is from within, not from some future hope of a medical breakthrough. I mean, do you want to continue to suffer? If not, start accepting it.

  • @CaptainMarvelsSon
    @CaptainMarvelsSon 9 місяців тому +2

    "What is real? How do you define real?" It's frustrating to have something that others cannot hear be so loud in your ears that you don't even know someone is talking to you. Not only is it depressing and distracting, but others think that you aren't paying attention, intentionally ignoring them, or are having an absence seizure.

  • @agent57
    @agent57 9 місяців тому +9

    I have a genetic case, and I can't really think of a time when I didn't have that ringing noise in the background. It's a thing that I can ignore on occasion, but if I stop and tune in, yep, it's there. I've kinda wondered how much it might be tied to my anxiety, whether as a symptom or cause. I'd love to have successful treatment for it.

  • @BenjaminIMeszaros
    @BenjaminIMeszaros 9 місяців тому +5

    I’ll take literally anything to help with tinnitus.

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому

      The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 4+ times a day.

    • @outlawbillionairez9780
      @outlawbillionairez9780 9 місяців тому

      Living with this is really bad. Caffeine and aspirin and other stuff can make it worse.

  • @killtyrant
    @killtyrant 9 місяців тому +4

    Okay, im listening

  • @lourobin2728
    @lourobin2728 9 місяців тому +7

    Trying something new after seeing an audiologist. He mentioned that teeth grinding can cause tinnitus. So I’ve started wearing a mouth guard at night to see if it will help reduce the ringing. Just once in my life I would like to hear the sound of Silence. Wish me luck!

    • @louisdrouard9211
      @louisdrouard9211 9 місяців тому +2

      True, but a good dentist can just plainly see if you are greeding your teeth or not.

    • @eggosarenotdense
      @eggosarenotdense 9 місяців тому

      I have TMJ issues, and when my jaw locks, my tinnitus is more noticeable. Wearing a TMJ splint at night helps me with both issues.

    • @InfinitiesLoop
      @InfinitiesLoop 9 місяців тому

      Did it help?

    • @elfinvale
      @elfinvale 4 місяці тому

      Oh, a note on that. Teeth-grinding can often be a symptom of sleep apnoea, which itself worsens tinnitus (among a host of other things). When facial muscles relax in sleep the jaw and tongue, no longer held in place, fall back and block one's airway; eventually the sleeping brain learns that a relaxed jaw = bad sleep and clenches/grinds instead. Alas, this doesn't stop the tongue from still falling back, so you end up with jaw pain AND poor sleep 🙃
      A mouth guard can, depending on type/severity, alleviate many sleep apneoa symptoms, especially if it's a splint built to also hold the tongue in place (though those are heinously expensive and usually require specialist consults). If you're like me, though, and have a genetic condition that causes lax connective tissues (of which skin is the largest), no jaw/tongue splint will ever help; the throat's own tissue closes up without constant airflow. (Note: This will happen no matter how much fat one carries around the neck.) CPAP is the best treatment in such cases. It changed my life. According to my initial sleep study i stopped breathing on average 54 times in 60 minutes! Now i only hit maybe 10 on a bad night; most of the time it's around 4 or 5.
      Anyway lol, i just thought i'd share my experience. Sleep has such a big effect on one's health/quality of life and i couldn't believe how badly i'd slept for my first 28 years. Even though it didn't cure my tinnitus, i don't get as sensorially overwhelmed due to lack of sleep so i cope better. Sleep is good, folks!

  • @the83rdtrombonist60
    @the83rdtrombonist60 9 місяців тому +6

    I had to watch this video. If SciShow has a "hack", then it'll be legit

  • @maxarvlo
    @maxarvlo 9 місяців тому +3

    As a kid I thought the ringing in my ears was the sound of silence, I assumed that in the absence of sound everyone’s brain filled in the silence with this ringing. It wasn’t until a couple years ago from a different UA-cam video that I learned most people don’t experience the same ringing that I’ve had my entire life. In all honestly, my tinnitus has never been an issue, its always just a constant ringing in the background that’s always been there, its very much a part of me like the same way my feet or my hands are. But knowing that there are people that can hear true silence was incredibly fascinating to me, I think experiencing that would be similar to when colorblind people use those correction glasses to be able to see colors the way most people do. I hope this treatment gives me the chance to experience that.

  • @sushisea
    @sushisea 9 місяців тому +1

    this is some really good news to hear ^^ hope there is more research, findings, and treatment to come

  • @Icewind007
    @Icewind007 9 місяців тому +2

    I always took "all in your head" as "I am too ignorant to answer that". Even as a child, I called out that adult BS.

  • @Jobobn1998
    @Jobobn1998 9 місяців тому +4

    As someone with Meniere's disease, these kinds of developments are great news!

  • @TheQuickSilver101
    @TheQuickSilver101 9 місяців тому +4

    I have had tinnitus for about 4 years now. I had to learn to control how I perceived the sound myself or I would have gone nuts long ago. Hopefully this helps folks who can't manage theirs!

  • @spehrson
    @spehrson 9 місяців тому +1

    The thought of this possibly working made me break down in tears.

  • @michaelbotelho2714
    @michaelbotelho2714 9 місяців тому +2

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep us informed on this!!! I’ve had tinnitus as a result of having Menzies disease when I was 25. Now 55 I’m beyond desperate!! Thank You!!❤❤

  • @Its-Just-Zip
    @Its-Just-Zip 9 місяців тому +6

    I've actually talked with my mother who's an audiologist about this several times. And yeah, unless she can treat an underlying issue like hearing loss, there's not a whole lot that she can do and it really frustrates her.
    What really frustrates her most is the holistic treatment shenanigans that are going on with some of the supplements can often do more harm than good
    And if it can save anybody here. Vitamin k. Magnesium and vitamin b are not treatments for tinnitus. There is potentially a slight placebo effect that can be gained from them but it's not a solution and your tinnitus is probably going to come back.
    That being said, if you are taking supplements and it seems to be working for you at a reasonable amount, IE one dose a day, it's probably fine to continue that. But if you're taking an excessive amount of the stuff like four, five, or six doses, you probably want to cut that out because that's really bad for your liver and you might want to try some of the other treatment and therapy options for tinnitus, which granted aren't great, but they're not going to destroy your liver in the process

  • @wolfiemuse
    @wolfiemuse 9 місяців тому +11

    I’ve always had short high pitch ringing events throughout my life, but they’re usually no longer than about 30 seconds and then fade off. I’ve always thought it was like an inner ear pressure thing; as in, the inside of your body IS making a very very quiet noise due to XYZ reason that isn’t really detectable outside your own body. That’s what I’ve always thought.

    • @Jesse__H
      @Jesse__H 9 місяців тому +8

      Those momentary things are pretty normal, if it's brief and only occasional, it's usually just a neuron misfiring.

    • @wolfiemuse
      @wolfiemuse 9 місяців тому +6

      @@Jesse__H Have you ever experienced what I’m talking about? It’s like short acting, totally random and not regularly occurring tinnitus. A high pitched noise starts slow and quiet, usually in one specific ear. It slowly ramps up until it’s “loud”, then tapers right back off until it’s completely gone. Takes maybe less than a minute for the entire thing to occur. Due to the way it ramps up and down to me has always felt like it’s an inner ear pressure thing, maybe one eardrum experiencing momentary higher pressures from inflammation, high blood flow, etc etc etc. That’s what it’s always felt like to me. This specific thing, which probably isn’t tinnitus, has always felt like there is something that IS physically causing a “noise”, it just can’t be perceived by anyone other than you since it’s happening literally inside your ear/head. But I’d believe it was brain stuff exclusively, too. 🤷‍♂️

    • @AySz88
      @AySz88 9 місяців тому +1

      Yes, those brief episodes are what most people mean when they refer to "ears ringing". Tinnitus is usually intended to mean something more severe.
      You do see people call the "normal" ringing "mild tinnitus" but IMO that's too confusing terminologically.

    • @wolfiemuse
      @wolfiemuse 9 місяців тому +1

      @@AySz88 Yeah that’s why I said I don’t think it’s tinnitus, I thought it may be a physical thing for those random episodes. But I’d buy that it’s a neuron thing too honestly. Human brain is a very powerful thing to even fool ourselves

    • @sanachanto
      @sanachanto 9 місяців тому +1

      @@wolfiemuse I think of it less as the brain fooling our perception, and more that our perception *is* our brain. If the same neurons that fire when a specific sound enters our ears for some reason fire in the absence of that sound, we will still perceive that we hear it. Brains are truly one of the most incredible things, but they can also be so frustratingly faulty.

  • @fazryu
    @fazryu 9 місяців тому +1

    ENT doctor here - your brain can adapt to tinnitus naturally and will in time ignore it. A good example of this is your nose - you can visualise your nose in your field of vision but your brain actively ignores this as it perceives it as no threat. This is called habituation. Unfortunately, habituation can take 1-2years to occur.
    I would still recommend seeing a doctor to try illcit a cause for your tinnitus especially if it is a pulsing noise.

  • @Keeper963
    @Keeper963 9 місяців тому +2

    This is incredibly encouraging. I've had a low "static" in my ears for as long as I can remember. Only really bothers my when I'm in total silence or when it suddenly flares up into a high pitch.
    I've trained myself to focus on a volume knob and then turning the volume down using the hand motion. That usually works for the worst of it. I would love to experience true silence one day though.

  • @aidenparsons6571
    @aidenparsons6571 9 місяців тому +4

    i had no idea it was possible

    • @skeptyka
      @skeptyka 9 місяців тому

      How come? Everything we subjectively experience is due to physical mechanisms in the brain. The way to fix any experiental thing is to simply manipulate the brain appropriately, just like fixing any other problem.

    • @castleanthrax1833
      @castleanthrax1833 9 місяців тому

      @skeptyka9999, That doesn't mean that anything is possible. That just means that everything you experience, is just electrical signals that are interpreted by your brain. Some things are simply not fixable or correctable.

  • @paulwilk2854
    @paulwilk2854 9 місяців тому +6

    Anecdotally, I noticed a decrease in the intensity of tinnitus when I started taking medication for ADHD. It would be interesting to see a study of stimulant medications as treatment for tinnitus.

    • @WexMajor82
      @WexMajor82 9 місяців тому +1

      Gabapentin is apparently one of the medicaments that can lower the intensity of Tinnitus.
      It's also is an anticonvulsant medication primarily used to treat partial seizures and neuropathic pain, so it's not prescribed unless you have some additional problems.

    • @Psilomuscimol
      @Psilomuscimol 9 місяців тому

      I read psychedelics and stimulants help. And also gaba drugs like phenibut. Phenibut is addictive but also legal in the US

    • @CWorgen5732
      @CWorgen5732 9 місяців тому

      ​@@WexMajor82interesting that you mention that, because epilepsy is comorbid with adhd more commonly than any other disorder.

    • @CWorgen5732
      @CWorgen5732 9 місяців тому

      Thank you for mentioning this, I'm going to try to remember it tomorrow morning so I can try to gauge whether it's true for me too.

    • @vegetossgss1114
      @vegetossgss1114 9 місяців тому

      We, tinnitus sufferers, need to create secured website which will allow us to give money to fund tinnitus research.
      Something with a number, to motivate us to give even more.
      And the money should be given to most promising solutions, to actually reduce or even eliminate tinnitus.
      Instead of being passive, we can now, thanks to internet and digitalisation, at our level, be part of the solution!

  • @anoukk_
    @anoukk_ 9 місяців тому

    Thanks you increased the ringing but this really gave me hope that I could soon finally do something about it :)

  • @chadbailey3623
    @chadbailey3623 9 місяців тому +1

    I suffer from tinnitus and am so thankful for this video!!!

  • @Keith-uk2nw
    @Keith-uk2nw 9 місяців тому +5

    I have had tinnitus for most of my life. Lying in bed, it does seem I can control the pitch at night by focusing on it (not sure if it's mental or that I'm actually able to do something physical). In my head, it gets super loud, but then I seem to be able to control both the pitch and volume. The higher I can make the pitch, the less I hear it.

    • @Keith-uk2nw
      @Keith-uk2nw 9 місяців тому +2

      lack of sleep makes it a lot worse...

    • @Ben111000111
      @Ben111000111 9 місяців тому

      “Lack of sleep makes it a lot worse…”
      This is exactly what I found after leaving the noisy workplace I thought was damaging my hearing. Tinnitus was a constant thing whilst I was working, but became patchy when unemployed. Took a while to work out that being awake for 24+ hours, or averaging less than 4 hours of sleep over several days were tinnitus triggers

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 9 місяців тому +3

    My best friend suffers from it and it's been a rough journey trying to deal with it. I eventually convinced her to see an audiologist and she got hearing aids that apparently help quite a bit, at least while they are in. It would be great to have some way of helping past that much.

  • @kyrab7914
    @kyrab7914 9 місяців тому

    Honestly nice to hear about taking symptoms seriously and actually looking for a treatment instead of just shrugging and passing it off

  • @killerpussy84
    @killerpussy84 9 місяців тому +1

    I've had it for decades. When I started a new attempt I was sent to physical therapy, and the person gave me massages, but it didn't help. Imagine my pure shock when she, as gently as a butterfly!!, touched my scalp and the noise COMPLETELY disappeared! Gone! Just like THAT!!
    well, turns out my tinnitus is my body's warning signal for sore muscles. Basically, I can hear the muscles in my neck/head/skull scream of pain.
    Ever since that I am doing my yoga poses and stretches and occasionally visit said therapist. It has been so much better.
    Oh, and sugar makes it so much worse. It's horrific for me, but cutting down on it helps a lot. 😭

  • @DigitalMonsters
    @DigitalMonsters 9 місяців тому +4

    Last time I was this early these comments were popular

    • @innerspacesurfer
      @innerspacesurfer 9 місяців тому +1

      You've reached the exact other end of youtubes graph charting user interaction. Your reward: way more ads.

  • @justavillain
    @justavillain 9 місяців тому +4

    I’ve had tinnitus since apx 2008 and it’s a loud scratching sound in my left ear and it overwhelms my default hearing loss (or so it feels) but I do have hearing loss. The right ear is less noticeable. Mine is from hearing damage from the military. Hearing aids do help but it doesn’t do much as it’s still there. And the second I take the hearing aids off the scratch is louder than normal and it definitely can cause depression and I do get over it because I can’t change it. But I can see how people can get in that cycle

  • @somedudeok1451
    @somedudeok1451 9 місяців тому +1

    After a night of heavy clubbing I got tinnitus about 10+ years ago. Thankfully the noise became a lot less noticable over time, which makes me fortunate I guess, but ever experiencing silence is a thing of the past. This video makes me hopeful that I might not have tinnitus for my entire life. Knowing the pace of such things, maybe it'll become readily available in something like 20 years.
    Thx for the good vid.

  • @shawntoadally
    @shawntoadally 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for reporting on this! I sure hope this technique works, and it isn't prohibitively expensive if/when it goes to market. I've had pretty severe tinnitus for nearly a couple decades. It has dramatically affected my life in a bad way. Any level of relief would be wonderful!

  • @tphotos3485
    @tphotos3485 9 місяців тому +3

    I've had tinnitus since I was a child but I have no hearing loss - when I got my hearing tested I was told there was no issues and I should just work on living with it or see and ENT if it worsens. I have to sleep with an earphone, it doesn't really stop the ringing or roaring but it lessens it and is a welcome distraction in the quiet of night. The somatic thing works I guess? If I rub my neck. But a long day with lots of background noise and it's deafening by the time I'm in a quiet bedroom.
    Dehydration makes it worse - I get this tiny thudding or "pressure change" that freaked my right out when that started. Again, no-one believes me because I have no hearing loss and because I remember it being there when I was a young child. I used to lay awake at night and "listen to the universe".

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому

      The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 4+ times a day. *Magnesium provides protection* against permanent hearing loss.

    • @awsomebot1
      @awsomebot1 9 місяців тому

      i have minor hearing loss but otherwise same boat as you, except i havent found a relief yet

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому

      @@awsomebot1 I found a treatment using the patient's own stem cells to restore hearing loss. The 3 main sources of stem cells after birth are: bone marrow, the bloodstream, and fat cells.
      There's a clinical trial for getting stem cells past the blood brain barrier. The one I read about has two steps, the first step is intravenous and the second step is topical application on the blood brain barrier through the nasal passage. The doctor said that there's a lot of documentation that the [5th cranial nerve] would facilitate entry of stem cells into the brain.

  • @jennivamp5
    @jennivamp5 9 місяців тому +4

    Hmmm, interesting. I don't think I have somatic tinnitus as it doesn't change with touch or pressure. But it would be interesting to try out one of these devices and see if it has any affect.
    Mine doesn't overly bother me but it would be nice to experience silence again.

  • @el_primer_y_el_ultimo_caiman
    @el_primer_y_el_ultimo_caiman 9 місяців тому +2

    I think that scientists should research tinnitus in the context of autism.
    I'm autistic, asked 5 autistic friends, and all of us have tinnitus. There are also studies linking autism to tinnitus, even without any hearing loss. My hearing is near-perfect and my ears have been ringing since I became conscious... I didn't even know other people knew silence until I was 11 years old.
    My tinnitus is also affected by my other senses, like if I cracked my neck bad it becomes unbearable.
    Anyways, I think this context could deepen understanding of both autism and tinnitus.

  • @Articulate99
    @Articulate99 9 місяців тому

    Always interesting, thank you.

  • @computationaltrinitarianism
    @computationaltrinitarianism 9 місяців тому +3

    During a psychotic episode I had that gradually became worse, I began to have a ringing tinnitus which then later become melodic based on music I had recently listened to, but still ringing. I would be curious as to whether it was regular tinnitus with my psychotic brain modulating it to be more musical, or if it was an entirely different mechanism. I have had sporadic episodes of tinnitus before the episode though.

  • @kinexkid
    @kinexkid 9 місяців тому +5

    Ive got minor tinnitus, and ive found a way to "trick" myself into stopping it when it gets loud enough. I flex my tensor tympani muscles in my inner ear and get that ear rumbling sound, and it seems to override the stimuli and brings it back down to baseline noise levels

    • @kinexkid
      @kinexkid 9 місяців тому +1

      It doesn't always work, maybe like 80-90% of the time. In the rare cases it doesn't help, I'll sometimes whistle or hum pitches that match the tinnitus sound, or are off by a major 3rd or 5th. It doesn't make it go away, but it keeps me sane while hearing it by turning it into a music practice of sorts

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому +1

      The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 4+ times a day. *Magnesium provides protection* against permanent hearing loss.

    • @IanGrams
      @IanGrams 9 місяців тому +2

      Well damn, I've known how to flex my tensor tympani muscles for a while now but never tried doing so when my tinnitus is acting up. Just tried that and indeed it seems to have quieted it down a bit. Thank you for sharing this!

    • @kinexkid
      @kinexkid 9 місяців тому +1

      @IanGrams Hell yeah!!! I'm glad you can benefit from this information. As payment for my services, I ask that you pay it forward and double it for the next person. For every single thing that you benefit from, try to do two good things for others 💙

    • @IanGrams
      @IanGrams 9 місяців тому +1

      @@kinexkid that's a price I'm happy to pay. I'll make sure to do so :]

  • @abbdabbles6038
    @abbdabbles6038 9 місяців тому

    I have high hopes for what this may do for myself and other sufferers. Thank you for bringing it to my attention!

  • @Zappygunshot
    @Zappygunshot 9 місяців тому

    Having had tinnitus for my entire life and suffering from hypersensitivity (in particular to sound but also light), this could be an immense game changer. Since I've never experienced life without a high-pitched near-hiss in my head it's hard to say just how much the and in what manner absence would affect me, but wow. Even just a reduction would be an immense relief, and a very educational experience indeed.

  • @captainjoy8976
    @captainjoy8976 9 місяців тому +5

    Mine sounds like a static TV and is always on and sometimes it is more accute and takes over completely with a ringing sound and then I legitimately cannot hear anything else. Those times I press my earlobes into my ear canal and it somehow always helped - at least with the accute flareups. I really hope this might be a good treatment to help us all!

    • @pauls5745
      @pauls5745 9 місяців тому

      Mine is a constant, faint, very high pitch in one ear. I hear it when there's no other sounds. Basically I ignore it but I have buzzing in that ear from my own voice now with increased hearing loss. Sometimes I wish that ear were totally deaf. I'm still trying to come to terms with this disability.

    • @Mark9150
      @Mark9150 9 місяців тому

      deaf people can suffer tinnitus btw@@pauls5745

  • @Kazzit_Chang
    @Kazzit_Chang 9 місяців тому +4

    I have totally different Tinnitus experience and I think some of Tinnitus(at least mine) is linked to the noise cancelling system of our ear and brain.

    • @scotthenrie5148
      @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому +1

      Which is from the basal ganglia in the brain. The volume of the tinnitus I have decreases or is completely gone because I take a vitamin K supplement 4+ times a day. *Magnesium provides protection* against permanent hearing loss.

    • @Alfred-Neuman
      @Alfred-Neuman 9 місяців тому

      I have something similar, sometimes it feels like I have a bug twitching deep inside my left hear and it is quite annoying!
      Sometimes it can start randomly but some sounds or specific frequencies can also trigger it, especially with videos of people using cheap microphones or even just some particular voices.

  • @roberteischen4170
    @roberteischen4170 9 місяців тому +2

    The worse I get is on occasion there is a sudden ringing in my ears that starts off at a high volume then gradually reduces to zero. Happens a few times a year at seemingly random intervals.

  • @Mamba144
    @Mamba144 9 місяців тому

    I read about this study, and I'm so glad SciShow is covering it. More people need to understand what tinnitus is and how bad it can get.
    I have unilateral somatic tinnitus in my right ear, and a less severe form in my left (sometimes rings, sometimes doesn't). The sound never stops, and I perceive it as a roughly 3000 hz, 25-30 decible ringing. It's an extreme case, not produced from loud noise exposure but perhaps caused by my Otosclerosis: a genetic condition that fuzes the bones in my ears (though even my own doctors can't be 100% certain this is the cause).
    At this level of frequency and decible, plus the fact that it's only consistently in one ear, the condition is life altering. I didn't always have this level of tinnitus, and my life has spiraled deeper and deeper into other complications since it started: insomnia, head pain, neck pain, anxiety, and others. It is a symptom I wouldn't wish on anyone; it has swallowed my quality of life and deteriorated my mental capabilities.
    I want to believe there's a way to alleviate tinnitus, and it seems that way might be inbound. It's strange to feel hopeful about taking away a pain you've all but surrendered to, just "gotten used to", but I am feeling that hope now. Maybe no one else will ever have to live like this; that's an amazing thing.

  • @scotthenrie5148
    @scotthenrie5148 9 місяців тому +3

    Because this video mentioned anxiety, "magnesium deficiency induces anxiety".
    ⚠️ Up to 80% of people don't get the RDA for magnesium because modern farming practices are depleting magnesium from the soil.

    • @helloiamenergyman
      @helloiamenergyman 9 місяців тому

      Didn't find the source for 80%, but this paper from a seemingly trustworthy source cites 50%, which you could count as up to 80%. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5786912/

    • @achecase
      @achecase 9 місяців тому +1

      "Magnesium is a critical mineral in the human body and is involved in ~80% of known metabolic functions. It is currently estimated that 60% of adults do not achieve the average dietary intake (ADI) and 45% of Americans are magnesium deficient, a condition associated with disease states like hypertension, diabetes, and neurological disorders, to name a few. Magnesium deficiency can be attributed to common dietary practices, medications, and farming techniques, along with estimates that the mineral content of vegetables has declined by as much as 80-90% in the last 100 years. However, despite this mineral’s importance, it is poorly understood from several standpoints, not the least of which is its unique mechanism of absorption and sensitive compartmental handling in the body, making the determination of magnesium status difficult. The reliance on several popular sample assays has contributed to a great deal of confusion in the literature. This review will discuss causes of magnesium deficiency, absorption, handling, and compartmentalization in the body, highlighting the challenges this creates in determining magnesium status in both clinical and research settings." Challenges in the Diagnosis of Magnesium Status
      Jayme L. Workinger,1,* Robert. P. Doyle,2 and Jonathan Bortz1

  • @catherinehall2072
    @catherinehall2072 9 місяців тому

    Chemotherapy apparently triggered my tinnitus.
    That has been over a decade. I am so excited about this development. Thank you for highlighting it.

  • @simongross3122
    @simongross3122 9 місяців тому +1

    If 10% of people experience tinnitus, you'd expect 10% of doctors and audiologists should too. Very surprising that it's taken so long to make progress.

  • @thelusogerman3021
    @thelusogerman3021 9 місяців тому +2

    So basically tinnitus is your brain involuntarily turning up the mic monitoring setting and picking up white noise as a result
    Hate it when people have it turned to 11 in gamechat and it sound like a bass drop every time they exhale lol

  • @kingdomheartssorable
    @kingdomheartssorable 9 місяців тому +2

    Honestly as someone with an issue with overstimulation specifically with the amount of sounds around me and volume this makes sense as to why I start to feel better after rubbing my neck and behind my ears. Typically if that doesn't work I go to the ear muffs. This makes sense to me as when I get overstimmed the upper back of my neck in my spine (assuming my brain stem) feels tingly like when my foot falls asleep kinda.

  • @chronosferatu345
    @chronosferatu345 9 місяців тому +1

    This has offered me some relief. Place the palms of your hands against your ears with your fingers against the back of your neck. Put your index fingers on top of your middle fingers. Then "snap" your index fingers from the middle fingers to the back of your neck a few times. You should hear a bit of a thump noise as you do this. It's not a permanent fix, but it has given me some relief for a short while and may help those looking for a solution no matter how brief.

  • @dakotahrickard
    @dakotahrickard 9 місяців тому +1

    I am almost entirely blind. I got occasional ringing in my ears, but when I was in my mid-20s, it became constant and is spreading in its range.
    Before tinitis, I had good enough hearing that I used to spar with friends using swords and staves; I often won. Now, I can barely navigate, because the ringing sound is acoustically shadowing many of the frequencies I rely on to use echolocation.
    I can only hope that, one day, maybe I'll get my hearing back.
    Until then, I'll just keep listening to the sound that isn't there. It never stops.

  • @ItsShatter
    @ItsShatter 9 місяців тому

    Reading these comments makes me appreciate not having tinnitus. Hoping they find a workable treatment soon!

  • @RWSCOTT
    @RWSCOTT 9 місяців тому

    thanks for this! I've suffered from bouts of tinnitus for most of my life, but the condition was really exacerbated from standing under air vents on a kitchen line for over a decade. I notice 2 types of onsets. the random ones and the ones brought on by tensing up, for ex. hearing a noise in my house, becoming alert, trying to 'focus' my hearing - and it kicks in. usually it's the right ear, but sometimes it strobes between both (this is the worst). I would definitely be interested in this kind of therapy as I'm sure neck/head orientation/compression/bloodflow play a big part of it. 👍

  • @PariahSojourner
    @PariahSojourner 9 місяців тому +1

    I've had tinnitus for decades now, much louder in my right ear than my left. I got it from loud machinery and from sticking my head into the speakers at punk rock shows in the 80's. As loud as it is, I've gotten to the point where I don't even notice it unless someone brings it up. This video, for example, has brought it back with a vengeance. But I know that within a short time, it'll fade away as I become interested in other things.
    I've also used my tinnitus as a focal point during meditation, and in doing so, I have discovered that there are at least 6-7 different tones at various volumes.
    My brother also has it, but his only started a few years sgo, and the poor guy is tortured by it. I laugh when he tells me that I don't understand. Lol, if he only knew

  • @chevvvv
    @chevvvv 9 місяців тому +1

    I've always thought the ringing was normal and I just took it as a natural occurrence. I can't imagine living without the ringing, though it'd be nice

  • @matiasd5226
    @matiasd5226 9 місяців тому

    I have it since a years ago after a really bad stress spike. Those first 6 months were the worst months of my life. To the point of thinking about ending things...
    After some therapy and a lot of practice, i started to learn to live with it. After that, the volume of it went down a bit and now i don't think about it most of the time. It's good to know new therapies are coming out, i can only hope someday we'll get a treatment and i can hear silence again.

  • @MaggieatPlay
    @MaggieatPlay 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for presenting this information. There is hope!
    Tinnitus started immediately following a third TBI to the left frontal lobe in 2005. Many sounds were/are painful to the point of tears such as AI, sirens, electronically generated music. The right ear was much reduced in hearing ability (some paralysis on the right side of the body for most of a year as physical therapy worked on those issues). Constant work on brain healing has helped. Wearing a noise-reducing headset for several hours a day when I am exposed to the most daytime human-generated noises helps. I find low sounds, such as bass singers, audio books and stories narrated by bass-voiced men, musical instruments played in the low ranges, exposure to vibrational energy in the low ranges have helped considerably. Higher vibrational energies makes it worse. Over the years, the noise has shifted many times in sound, pitch, location of the brain...in the last 2 years, some times, the tinnitus disappears for a hours, even a few days.Slowly, slowly, I am healing the brain, regaining hearing in the right ear, and reducing the tinnitus. I am hopeful that some day, the tinnitus will disappear completely.

  • @harth2324
    @harth2324 9 місяців тому

    I've had severe tinnitus since 2015 after my appendix was removed. It's been horrible. I have tried many different medications and types of therapy. Waiting for something that actually works. Glad to see this video has promise.

    • @korotaevaa
      @korotaevaa 8 місяців тому

      Возможно это после ототоксичных антибиотиков после удаления аппендикса? Или именно после самой операции начало шуметь?
      У меня тоже с Января 2015, но я просто заболела гриппом с 38,3t

  • @Ataraxia0
    @Ataraxia0 9 місяців тому

    i've had tinnitus for my entire life so thankfully this is just normal to me and it doesn't bother me. its great that steps are being taken to treat it for the people who are in distress because of it, maybe one day i'll try it out too

  • @MeowtronStar
    @MeowtronStar 9 місяців тому

    I had long abandoned hope. It's scary to imagine that you can't get rid of the sound in your head your whole life. This... gives me hope.

  • @paulinemoira8442
    @paulinemoira8442 9 місяців тому

    I'm really glad to hear this. I have tinnitus for just a couple of month now and it's making me seriously suicidal. I have still some hope that it's a symptom of the psychological distress I had beforehand and that it will go away once I've dealt with that. Knowing their is actual physical treatment gives me a lot of hope.

    • @Bittersweet_Life
      @Bittersweet_Life 8 місяців тому

      I know exactly how you feel. In the first few months with tinnitus I didn't want to live anymore and thought I was going crazy with the noise in my ears / head. Hearing aids with noisers helped me, even though I have no hearing loss. Since I've had them, at least the days are bearable and only falling asleep is difficult.

    • @korotaevaa
      @korotaevaa 8 місяців тому

      Не сдавайся, прорывы в лечении осуществляются все больше и больше. Над проблемой Тиннитуса работают разные компании. Всем нам тяжело, я понимаю тебя, у меня 8 лет сильный шум. Обратись к психиатру обязательно! Прочитай про Тиннитус и взаимодействие с антидепрессантами и нейролептиками, например, как Квеатипин.

  • @Waimapu_Wahine
    @Waimapu_Wahine 9 місяців тому

    I have never known silence. I look forward to the future research coming out to help us

  • @harmsc12
    @harmsc12 9 місяців тому

    You have my right ear's attention.

  • @fernbedek6302
    @fernbedek6302 9 місяців тому +1

    Rare test in actual guinea pigs.

  • @samgunn12
    @samgunn12 9 місяців тому

    I have severe subjective tinnitus from not wearing ear protection and playing loud live music for nearly three decades. The NHS in Scotland provided me with hearing aids that play white noise at a low level at the same frequency as my tinnitus. This nearly, but not quite, cancels out the ringing. It certainly makes it easier to live with.

  • @MatthewTheWanderer
    @MatthewTheWanderer 9 місяців тому

    My dad has had extremely bad tinnitus for most of his life, ever since he was in the Navy in the 1960s. The way he describes it, it sounds like hellish torture!

  • @FieniX_
    @FieniX_ 9 місяців тому +1

    This helps me: If you have ringing - close your eyes, empty your mind as best you can, let the internal sound go for a few seconds without interference and then after that time, take your fingers and snap them as loud and fast as you can. Also, at the same time you snap your fingers open your eyes quickly and sit up or just move your head forward. It hasn’t failed me yet. Seems to be rather effective for removing songs that are stuck in your head. Don’t hurt yourself. Just have to kind of “jolt” your system.
    Mine is intermittent, but there has been 1 time I was in a hospital room and the ringing had become so “loud” that I literally couldn’t hear the nurse.

    • @Psilomuscimol
      @Psilomuscimol 9 місяців тому

      Could be placebo. Placebo is a powerful thing.

  • @Erik-pu4mj
    @Erik-pu4mj 9 місяців тому +1

    I'd love to hear true silence someday.

  • @Mr.Anders0n_
    @Mr.Anders0n_ 9 місяців тому +1

    This video made my very mild tinnitus more noticeable 🤔

  • @swegfesh
    @swegfesh 9 місяців тому +1

    I have had permanent tinnitus for as long as i remember. I don't really hear it unless it's super quiet. And when i do i just don't care.
    Tinnitus is only a problem in conjunction with a mental component. The less you stress and feel annoyed about it the less impact it will have on you and your life.

  • @Catastropheshe
    @Catastropheshe 9 місяців тому

    0:13 whoever wrote that line... You're genius 😂😂😂😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣