Here in Kazakhstan we have a specific word to refer to the descendants of Chinggis Khan - “Ақсуйек” (literally “White bone”) or “Чингизид” (“Chingissid”). And one of my great grandmothers was one of the descendants and distantly related to Shoqan Walikhanov, a Kazakh ethnographer and historian who himself was a great grandson of Ablai Khan. It is important in Kazakh culture to know your first seven ancestors so either families themselves or mosques would keep some records of familial lines. And it would be quite interesting to see one day a study conducted using both genetic material and historical records but the latter are sadly not as accessible. It took quite a while for my family to rebuild my dad's line while searching only for male ancestors so I can only imagine how laborious it would be to just collect all of this information
@@camediafumf1 I heard that some guy who was in power in Kazakhstan at one point implemented this rule to force Kazakh tribes to intermarry, instead of just marrying within their tribes. Basically, he wanted the tribes to be more connected to fight ... well... tribalism and to support Kazakh unity. Idk where he got the idea from, but it seems far-fetched that he got it from the North Americans. But maybe I'm wrong. I think I got this information from a geography video on why Kazakhstan is doing better than other countries in the region, which also talked about Kazakhstan's demography, and I might be misrembering something.
@@camediafumf1 Makes you wonder exactly how closely related our indigenous population is related to this Mosque custom of recording lineage 7 generations. As a descendant of plain old white farmers generally from rural Ohio until the past two generation/-I can only go back four until I reach areas of too many Smiths to keep them all straight. But the specificity of 7 generations seems too purposeful to ignore.
When I had a friend tell me he was related to Genghis Khan and I remembered he was from a Mughal family from Pakistan and his family name happens to be the same as one of Genghis Khan’s official sons, I was like “well you certainly have the best chance of it.”
@@greenweed3253Pakistan was one of the more central parts of the Mughal empire, it’s not a stretch to believe that a smaller branch eventually settled there.
I can actually trace my ancestry back to Genghis Khan and I'm a White guy. If I remember correctly, it's through his son's that ruled the "Golden Horde", whose descendants ended up having kids with the rulers of the Kievan Rus. I was able to make that connection on the website Geni, which shows you your exact relationship. He was something like my 24th great grandfather.
Thank you so much for this throughly researched video. As a Mongol myself, I always tell people about Chinggis Khan's remains never been found so it's too assumptive about he was the only culprit. Thousand s of years before him nomads followed pastures into Europe and Hungry migrated like pulse few hundred years apart. Plus the silk road contributed immensely to the dispersal of the DNA no doubt.
So what you're saying is that we might be all related to Greg *Non-Khan,* some other person in the Mongolian Empire who was just as prolific with their genetic material.
So what you’re saying, is that if his remains have never been found, then there’s a chance he could still be living his life somewhere out there, just hiding from the world. Got it.
Interesting fact: In Kazakhstan, descendants of Genghis Khan still exist, known as the Töre (dynasty) . You can read about the Töre on Wikipedia. One of the most famous descendants of Genghis Khan in Central Asia was the Kazakh scholar Shoqan Walikhanov. In 1856, the great Kyrgyz epic "Manas" was first recorded on paper by Shoqan Walikhanov. The Kazakh researcher Walikhanov is considered the scholar who first published records of the epic "Manas." Kazakhs and Mongols also share common clans, such as the Naimans,Dughlats ,Jalairs, and Khongirads.
your people are more famous than you might think. and no, not just due to the sauce and the dish (which are both French i think) ..or maybe i'm just a nerd
I think the thing people leave out of the figuring when talking about Genghis Khan's descendants, is that not only did the man have lots of wives and concubines, his official sons also did. Ögedei Khan's Wikipedia page lists nine people as "spouses" and says he had 60 concubines.
thank you.. and an interesting addition to this is that Ghengis' first wife, the mother of those 4 sons, was very smart and savvy and accomplished alot in her life.. i forget her name but she is famous. edit: Borte
She was also kidnapped & raped by other tribes many times, so her kids may be from other men not Genghis Khan. However, this was not a problem for Genghis Khan, he regarded them as his sons even if there is a possibility they were not his biologically. Being his wife meant she will be kidnapped & raped, so that was just accepted by him & her. He respected her for accepting the dim role.
They are politicians with the only record being them writing their own history. What success r u talking about. I never understand why people are simping over this filth. Also thats a plus sized dude with multiple wifes in an era kings are known to pick wifes unwillingly. I am sure its totally her will to marry him. And i dont think money ment jack sh, it when the most advanced technology is a wheel.
@@InservioLetumit only takes a 10 second google search to get the answer, which is that Ghenghis is the westernized version of the original name Chinggis, or "Universal Ruler"
i think it's FAR more likely that this theorethical Mongolian ancestor ACTUALLY was an ancestor of many of his men, potentially including the Khan himself. it's unlikely one man sired that many children. It's far more likely a common ancestor will be found amongst an invading army.. >.> i'm honestly a bit annoyed at myself for not realizing this obvious truth earlier.
Unless you’re Jonathan Jacob Meijer. I would say he’s one of the few known verifiable cases of one person (man) fathering hundreds to a thousand children haha.
Ah, thank you. I had virtually the same response, but being the little beacon of self-deprication and misery that I am, I assumed I was just being daft. Sets one's mind at ease to see one is not the only one drooling on the veranda in a diaper hahahaha
@@ZeMarkKrazee You could have thousands of children and still zero descendants a few generations later. There was a very high mortality rate. 50% of those children would've died off the bat, another 25% due to childhood disease. Then you have to account for your spinsters, bachelors, monks, etc and it's not improbable that the line ends rapidly even with dozens of children.
@@MrBrock314its not that simple though. Those descendents take up space and resources. Meaning there are other genes from partners that would not have to existence due to that.
I think people are missing the main point that Ghenghis Khans army did so much genocide and graping of women that he changed the genetic landscape globally
There’s a similar legend in the UK that were all descended from Edward III or something, but the argument I thought was a statistical one. Ie if you can trace that a person from long enough ago (many hundreds of years) has at least one direct descendant alive today (easy for a monarch) the chances that anyone with British ancestry is NOT directly descended from them becomes infinitesimally small
I've heard that with Charlemagne too, that if you have European ancestry you're descended from him just due to the basic mathematics of generational descent.
So interesting! My DNA test showed a small percentage of Central Asian, and I was really baffled by that. "Grampa Genghis" became a running joke for me, but now I understand better why I have that in my DNA.
Funnily enough, John makes the claim that Hank is "debunking" the basis of his addressing of the open letter that episode to Ghengis Khan's descendants. I was expecting a tongue-in-cheek reference to that the whole time.
As Genghis Khan's empire grew, his army became decreasingly Mongol in any ethnic sense Even in the early days it had been drawn from a confederation of Turco-Mongol tribes to which Uighurs, Kirghiz and others were gradually added. By the time the Khan died in 1227, Turkish warriors greatly outnumbered real Mongols whose role was now that of a leading élite.
"Turkish" does not equal "Turkic" The modern Turkish of Anatolia literally have no trace of blood of the original Turkic tribes of Central Asia. To simplify, the Turkic Seljuk tribes have established their rule in Anatolia and made the local Mediterranean population speak their language. In other words, technically, the Turkish are genetically closer to the Greek (if not identical) and other Mediterranean neighbours but no one's ready to have that conversation
@@DiavoloVolpe No trace of blood of original Turkic tribes? Although Anatolia has been quite mixed since the beginning of time, pretty much, there are a lot of Turkic genes and culture remaining, despite the current Arabized image of the country. To the contrary to your last point, Greeks of today probably have little genetic connection to thee Greeks of 5000-2000BC, because Anatolia is and have been quite the melting pot.
@@DiavoloVolpe The earliest civilizations of Anatolia and the Middle East were Turanian, that is proto-Turkic and proto-Finno-Ugrian. Read the 19th century great scholars, assyriologist, archeologists and linguists like Jules Oppert, Francois Lenormant, Henry Rawlinson and many more. They were those who discovered those civilizations and deciphered their scriptures and said that they had nothing to do with the Indo-Europians and the Semities but were very close to Turkic and Finno-Ugrian language and cultures. But then they were silenced. You can read James Fergusson about Tree and Serpent Worship and who was firdt to have hhat cult and how the memory of it survived in the Bible. The Sumerians, the first Babylonians, the Troyans, the Medes, the Etruscans, the Crete's first population, the Hatti, the Scythians, the Parthians and many more were Turanians. Even the Kurds and Armenians were Turanians in the beginning.
A great analogy I've heard is that these haplogroups draw a Monet picture. If you look at it from afar and squint your eyes you can see some patterns. But at the individual level these patterns don't really hold. There may be these gene that is shared among 60% of French people, but also by 15% of Germans and 10% of Spaniards. If you have this gene 23andme will probably tell you you have French ancestry, but maybe it comes from those Germans, and you can also be French without having that gene.
@@user-zw5jj2uf1p I'm not educated enough about this to speak confidently on it, but I do know that DNA tests are based on modern populations of people, and no matter how far back you go to try and get a "pure" person as a representative, there's always going to be a little bit of something else mixed in. Or, they just read the DNA you give them wrong - I did My Heritage because I was interested in what it would say while also knowing that it is not accurate. Now, as far back as I can trace my family tree, I'm 100% British and Irish. And yet My Heritage told me I was 20% Iberian?! That would imply a grandparent from Iberia, and I know my grandparents and none of them are/were remotely Iberian. My general thinking is that the Celtic/Germanic mix got confused because Iberia also has a history of being Celtic with some Germanic peoples there. I don't think it was that we shared the same genes so much as the combination of genes I have led to them deciding it was Iberian. To add to this theory, I had a lower percentage of Irish than I theoretically should have considering my family tree, which makes me think that they got Iberian genes out of a British and Irish admixture. Basically, I don't think however many genes that people share between their ancestral groups that trips things up, I think it's that there's a lot of places where very similar people groups have mixed historically, and those places are usually fairly close. There are a lot of places where Celtic people and Germanic people have met, and that includes the British isles and Iberia amongst other places! I think the genes aren't the same, but they act in a similar way, so to speak, so that they get read as the same unless you are going in extremely precisely and ideally have historical data to work off so you can tell when you maybe made a wrong call. Modern DNA testing companies don't get that, so they just give you some results and let you process them. I'm lucky that I knew they were dubious and also that I can trace my maternal family back far enough to know that everyone has come from the same place in England for many, many, many generations. If I hadn't, I think I would be very concerned that a grandparent had been lying to me, and it sucks to think that there are people out there who would put that much trust in something that is so easily messed up by simple population mixes! Everyone is a bit of something else in Europe! Sorry this was a really long comment, I've had a chest infection and taken really strong painkillers and muscle relaxants because the coughing has made my chest muscles spasm. I hope I made sense. I promised to someone that I wouldn't talk to people on the internet with all this in my system but I wanted to reply to your comment because I thought it was interesting and I actually had something to contribute! Sorry for rambling hopefully you can understand me and I didn't just write my memoir for no reason. Also hopefully I don't regret writing this lmao
@@rosehipowl Things like MyAncestary are just scams dude. People have fooled them by sending in things like dog DNA and it coming back giving human breakdowns. As for "100% English and Irish", yeah, that's not even how it works either. English isn't a genetic type. England has been invaded by France, Germany, Italy, Norway, Denmark etc etc etc for like 2000 straight years and for the past 5000 years has had continuous breeding with the local European populations, including Iberians (Spanish / Portugese)
Vsauce did a video where he worked out statistically we are all (so many, can't remember number) cousins Via the quantity of people who HAVE lived vs. The current population
The math says it’s probably at the most 50th cousins to anybody on earth. The math models also suggest that the most recent common ancestor that everyone shared lived about 2,000 years ago probably near Taiwan or the South China Sea. I love bringing up this trivia bit to people because when you tell people that we are all related closer than you think the response I get is “well of course because Adam and Eve or Noah”. And I’m like no I mean much closer than Noah. Think the time of Christ. Also, also, actually, actually if you are the same ethnicity and live in the same country as your significant other there is about a 10% chance that you are at most 10th cousins or less. That brings it to about the 1500s give or take. I tell that to people and they freak out and act like I told them they married their siblings or Uncle or something. They don’t understand that once you get past 2nd cousins it’s genetically insignificant that they share one common ancestor with their spouses. Your fine people. Just enjoy the fact that we are all part of a big family called the human race and try to love one another and get along ❤
You have to account for the absolute size of the human population at the time of Genghis Khan. Fewer people means larger influence of the individual. 8 billion today vs 100s of millions then.
@@sqlexp Even if that's the case (I don't know enough to say either way), they conquered lots of places, and one of the main draws to conquering places is getting to take their stuff. It may not be specifically Mongol artefacts, but there could still be plenty of neat stuff.
Nah bro he was hard he didn't want that, he ordered a group to bury him in the steppes then ordered them all killed so no one would know where he was. They think he's likely next to a river.
@@sqlexp bruh you did NOT just hit them with the "uncivilized" lmaooooo like ???? what are you like an ancient Chinese orphan whose parents perished at the hands of the Mongol raids? fhskdfhghrg Just an absolutely WILD choice of words there my guy.
@@EnkiduIX Well not all peoples want to take their riches to their graves (literally) like for example Egyptians. For example, Vikings had very simple ship burial. Also to be honest... maybe leave your riches to living people so you don't get robbed after your death, your grave disturbed, your bones used for whatever weird thing future may bring (like DNA testing or cloning or whatnot :D )
He was also the first world leader to identify the need to protect natural areas as a benefit to all of mankind. He basically created national parks to ensure overgrazing didn’t occur. So he wasn’t just a ruthless conqueror, and horn dog, he was a naturalist as well.
8:48 I first saw this statue from drone footage on a TV show discussing Genghis Kahn. It's a statue of him on horseback. There is an observation deck on the back of the horse. You get to the observation deck from a door located in his crotch. You can also view it on Google Earth.
In the Google docs page you link to with all of the sources, it would be helpful if the source links also had the title of the article, or the year, or the authors. Sometimes you mention a specific article in the video and I want to go read it, but it is a little bit hard because I have to click through all of the different links to try to figure out which one it is. I mean, you are providing a list of sources, which is way better than most content on the internet does, even among science communication, so, you know, thank you, and please do not take this as criticism. If you wanted to crowdsource a solution, you could have a wiki version of the sources document thet could be edited by fans with accounts, or maybe just Patreon patrons, and they could add little notes if they felt like it.
This is so true. Took the DNA test and found that I'm of course mostly Irish and Nordic countries but I still have about 2% from India and Sri Lanka region
“I had this conversion recently….To be curt, the persons did not understand the difference between being born in a geographic location versus the genetic composition of biological hosts….I proceeded to pull out of their theory without pillaging or raping their village- questionable beliefs is the twin sibling to faith.”
I like that SciShow did this but they failed to mention the degradation of the Y-Chromoson making it harder ti detect individual ancestry using it as well as other external factors which contribute towards the inability to accurately trace genetic histories including as they mentioned a lack of concrete sampling material. Good video! We know less than we think.
We already knew that... we are the same species... if you find this beautiful, grass and wheat are also kin... and fruit flies and humans are also kin... it all depends how far back we go. It is a shallow and meaningless sentiment
@@SioxerNikita you have to love who you are before you can appreciate & love others. If you find things that make you someone you don’t want to be, change. Until you are capable of that, your cynicism will be your bedmate. I prefer a more lovely bedmate.
All I know is 23 and me linked me up with Viking era bones, and ancient Dominican Republic peoples, and I’m American so you know I’m mixed. Wild days. Can’t wait to be related to more bones. (My haplogroup is the ‘first peoples of Americas’ Bering land bridge natives and all that.
Whats crazy is i just commented this on another vid a few days ago about the FBI director looking up you-know-who's Google searches: "Here's what the FBI would find in my Google searches: - Oven temp cast iron pan seared steak - Release Spray for fiberglass molds - How many people today related to Genghis Khan" Incredible minds think alike 😃
That's interesting about the IBD study. It sounds like a lot of ancient ancestry content could be gleaned by looking at those zones, whereas current methods mostly look at Y and mitochondrial lineages.
I know a lot of people like the tangent cam, but I don't get the point. I can tell when the speaker is about to turn and it just throws me. I guess as long as everyone is having fun, no harm = no foul.
Seems more likely that probably a Genghis type mostly lost to history with omniscient POV/data gathering would be common ancestor yeah 2600 years ago mentioned here hmmm yeah Great Pyramid builders definitely our common ancestors - oh aside from y and mitochondrial dna very hard to go back more than 500 years if not impossible with dna techniques as far as I know so Great Pyramid builders as our common ancestors just statistics vs scientifically verifiable in any specific sense or whatever yeah it is an interesting philosophical idea that aside from 100% pure blood New World people and a few other isolated groups yeah Great Pyramid people are on our family tree as direct ancestors unless somehow they were all massacred after completing it or similar
There's a vid of a man from the Native American Red Leg tribe that did the 23 and me thing. His mother also did one and it said that she was 16.3% Mongolian. As a kid I was always amazed that the majority of the world's population looks Asian, Hispanic, Inuit etc.
If Ghengis Khan isn't necessarily our biological ancestor, is he just our Steppe Father?
Very Smart 😂 & funny remark
arrgh! Take my up-vote, punny one :)
Khan _is_ likely your direct ancestor, even if you did not inherit DNA from him.
If this ain't a dad joke I don't know what is.
This was so good I'm mad
"Not the father!"
*Genghis Khan dances across the stage*
Stage provided by James Bisonette and Kelly Moneymaker...
The famous “I don’t have to pay child support” song.
@@AnimeSunglassesi sense a presence i haven't felt in a long time
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
As a Mongolian I am now convinced that I’m related to 8 billion people
You are! Hello from your very, very distant cousin from America!
We're all technically related.
And I thought I had a big family because I’m Mexican. (Got about 30+ second cousins and 11 first cousins.)
Hello from your long lost Chinese relative ❤❤❤
i mean, in the end we're all homo sapiens so... hello brother from a very ancient mother
Here in Kazakhstan we have a specific word to refer to the descendants of Chinggis Khan - “Ақсуйек” (literally “White bone”) or “Чингизид” (“Chingissid”). And one of my great grandmothers was one of the descendants and distantly related to Shoqan Walikhanov, a Kazakh ethnographer and historian who himself was a great grandson of Ablai Khan.
It is important in Kazakh culture to know your first seven ancestors so either families themselves or mosques would keep some records of familial lines. And it would be quite interesting to see one day a study conducted using both genetic material and historical records but the latter are sadly not as accessible. It took quite a while for my family to rebuild my dad's line while searching only for male ancestors so I can only imagine how laborious it would be to just collect all of this information
That is very interesting, thank you so much for sharing about your culture and history.
In some indigenous cultures in North America seven generations back is where families trace their lineage. Not coincidental.
@@camediafumf1 I heard that some guy who was in power in Kazakhstan at one point implemented this rule to force Kazakh tribes to intermarry, instead of just marrying within their tribes. Basically, he wanted the tribes to be more connected to fight ... well... tribalism and to support Kazakh unity. Idk where he got the idea from, but it seems far-fetched that he got it from the North Americans. But maybe I'm wrong. I think I got this information from a geography video on why Kazakhstan is doing better than other countries in the region, which also talked about Kazakhstan's demography, and I might be misrembering something.
@@camediafumf1 Makes you wonder exactly how closely related our indigenous population is related to this Mosque custom of recording lineage 7 generations. As a descendant of plain old white farmers generally from rural Ohio until the past two generation/-I can only go back four until I reach areas of too many Smiths to keep them all straight. But the specificity of 7 generations seems too purposeful to ignore.
@@solar0wind Here is the link is to why Kazakhs need to know their 7 generation. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jetyata
When I had a friend tell me he was related to Genghis Khan and I remembered he was from a Mughal family from Pakistan and his family name happens to be the same as one of Genghis Khan’s official sons, I was like “well you certainly have the best chance of it.”
Lol I am also Mughal
@@ismailchoudhary7441 Choudhary?
@@unholycrusader69 Mughal family from Pakistan? Since when Mughals became Pakistani?😂
@@greenweed3253Pakistan was one of the more central parts of the Mughal empire, it’s not a stretch to believe that a smaller branch eventually settled there.
I can actually trace my ancestry back to Genghis Khan and I'm a White guy. If I remember correctly, it's through his son's that ruled the "Golden Horde", whose descendants ended up having kids with the rulers of the Kievan Rus. I was able to make that connection on the website Geni, which shows you your exact relationship. He was something like my 24th great grandfather.
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this is so real
that side shot of "AND HAVE NEVER BEEN FOUND." felt like I was subtly being told to find the One piece and claim the treasure within
3:15
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People have a fairly good idea of where he was buried. However, it's in a 12000km² protected area, and the government doesn't let people look around
@@atari109the one piece government doesn't let people look around either, and guess how that's going for them
@@atari109 sounds like the Grand line calling out for us to me..
Thank you so much for this throughly researched video. As a Mongol myself, I always tell people about Chinggis Khan's remains never been found so it's too assumptive about he was the only culprit. Thousand s of years before him nomads followed pastures into Europe and Hungry migrated like pulse few hundred years apart. Plus the silk road contributed immensely to the dispersal of the DNA no doubt.
So what you're saying is that we might be all related to Greg *Non-Khan,* some other person in the Mongolian Empire who was just as prolific with their genetic material.
@@ZT1ST Hey, that's my husband u r talking about !
Mongolia is my new obsession. So fascinating.
I can't imagine Genghis having the time and leisure to impregnate thousands of women anyway.
So what you’re saying, is that if his remains have never been found, then there’s a chance he could still be living his life somewhere out there, just hiding from the world.
Got it.
I like everyone's already forgot Hank survived cancer, looking good brotha
Geesus Christ! Heaven must have blessed him for bringing us so much scientific fun.
Such hearty story 👍👍
Interesting fact: In Kazakhstan, descendants of Genghis Khan still exist, known as the Töre (dynasty) . You can read about the Töre on Wikipedia. One of the most famous descendants of Genghis Khan in Central Asia was the Kazakh scholar Shoqan Walikhanov. In 1856, the great Kyrgyz epic "Manas" was first recorded on paper by Shoqan Walikhanov. The Kazakh researcher Walikhanov is considered the scholar who first published records of the epic "Manas."
Kazakhs and Mongols also share common clans, such as the Naimans,Dughlats ,Jalairs, and Khongirads.
"We are all related" is obvious, but also such a powerful statement when you think about it.
Adam and Eve are still my ancestors many many bazillion times over…how about you? 😅
Oh wow! I have never expected to hear about Tatars from you! Hello from Tatarstan!
TATAR SAUCE!!! ha 😊
This video is based on an article by Russian scientists. So there.
i just screamed TATARS MENTIONED to my screen haha
your people are more famous than you might think. and no, not just due to the sauce and the dish (which are both French i think)
..or maybe i'm just a nerd
Wait this cannot be real. There's a country I have literally NEVER heard of?!
Such a wonderful, heartwarming and unifying message at the end. That's Hank Green in his truest form
“And have never been found” side shot was like straight out of Goonies
Chester Copperpot!
I came down to the comments to look for a comment like this
If life were the Goonies then this would be his tomb: 3:25 "No one knows where he was buried..."
I think the thing people leave out of the figuring when talking about Genghis Khan's descendants, is that not only did the man have lots of wives and concubines, his official sons also did. Ögedei Khan's Wikipedia page lists nine people as "spouses" and says he had 60 concubines.
what a beautiful example of the importance of peer review
thank you.. and an interesting addition to this is that Ghengis' first wife, the mother of those 4 sons, was very smart and savvy and accomplished alot in her life.. i forget her name but she is famous. edit: Borte
Well, for a year at least.
Then she turned borte-one. 😂😂😂😂
She was also kidnapped & raped by other tribes many times, so her kids may be from other men not Genghis Khan. However, this was not a problem for Genghis Khan, he regarded them as his sons even if there is a possibility they were not his biologically. Being his wife meant she will be kidnapped & raped, so that was just accepted by him & her. He respected her for accepting the dim role.
They are politicians with the only record being them writing their own history. What success r u talking about. I never understand why people are simping over this filth.
Also thats a plus sized dude with multiple wifes in an era kings are known to pick wifes unwillingly. I am sure its totally her will to marry him. And i dont think money ment jack sh, it when the most advanced technology is a wheel.
Was anyone else expecting John Green to make a cameo with his Mongolian "charge" video clip from Crash Course?
Hoping. I was really hoping for it.
No, but now you mention it I'm amazed they didn't do it!
Unfortunately he was too busy leading the charge against Tuberculosis to make an appearance.
Again with the Mongols... epic!!
I was actually expecting Hank himself to say the thing and play the Mongol-tage.
Chingis Khan existed in the context of all in which he lived and all that came before him
How the....
Walk me through that spelling. This CANNOT be a typo, you've literally seen the spelling in this video.
@InservioLetum I took a class on the Mongol empire and my prof who knew Mongolian spelled & pronounced it like that
@@InservioLetumit only takes a 10 second google search to get the answer, which is that Ghenghis is the westernized version of the original name Chinggis, or "Universal Ruler"
Well ya but you could say that about anyone
@@croutendo2050search up Kamala Harris coconut tree to get the joke 👍
i think it's FAR more likely that this theorethical Mongolian ancestor ACTUALLY was an ancestor of many of his men, potentially including the Khan himself.
it's unlikely one man sired that many children.
It's far more likely a common ancestor will be found amongst an invading army.. >.>
i'm honestly a bit annoyed at myself for not realizing this obvious truth earlier.
Unless you’re Jonathan Jacob Meijer. I would say he’s one of the few known verifiable cases of one person (man) fathering hundreds to a thousand children haha.
Ah, thank you. I had virtually the same response, but being the little beacon of self-deprication and misery that I am, I assumed I was just being daft.
Sets one's mind at ease to see one is not the only one drooling on the veranda in a diaper hahahaha
@@ZeMarkKrazee You could have thousands of children and still zero descendants a few generations later.
There was a very high mortality rate. 50% of those children would've died off the bat, another 25% due to childhood disease.
Then you have to account for your spinsters, bachelors, monks, etc and it's not improbable that the line ends rapidly even with dozens of children.
@@MrBrock314its not that simple though. Those descendents take up space and resources. Meaning there are other genes from partners that would not have to existence due to that.
I think people are missing the main point that Ghenghis Khans army did so much genocide and graping of women that he changed the genetic landscape globally
I think it’s worth mentioning that he also had brothers that traveled with him
They did not travel. Murdered, raped and plundered their neighbors.
@@applesrgood-pb4st and sons!
And second cousins! Actually I would believe the whole horde were all second cousins at the time of Kublai!
There’s a similar legend in the UK that were all descended from Edward III or something, but the argument I thought was a statistical one. Ie if you can trace that a person from long enough ago (many hundreds of years) has at least one direct descendant alive today (easy for a monarch) the chances that anyone with British ancestry is NOT directly descended from them becomes infinitesimally small
I've heard that with Charlemagne too, that if you have European ancestry you're descended from him just due to the basic mathematics of generational descent.
I have a couple of lines that go back through E3 to at least Geoffrey Plantagenet. A separate line branches off to William the Marshal.
And this is why applying pure statistics to real life can lead to crazy results
My ancestors are more likely from the other side of the Danelaw
Stephen Fry said that about everyone in the UK and NZ, Australia etc., so it it almost certainly true 🤓
I appreciate the video's screenshot answering the question without the click bait.
Lol
Hank. . .great job per usual.
So interesting! My DNA test showed a small percentage of Central Asian, and I was really baffled by that. "Grampa Genghis" became a running joke for me, but now I understand better why I have that in my DNA.
Commercial DNA tests are guesstimates of possibilities.
I'm pretty upset there wasn't a single "except the Mongols" clip of JG from crash course history
Funnily enough, John makes the claim that Hank is "debunking" the basis of his addressing of the open letter that episode to Ghengis Khan's descendants. I was expecting a tongue-in-cheek reference to that the whole time.
Nice to see the SciShow Quiz Show table make an appearance!
I can sit and listen to hank all day.
I'm not playing favourites but can listen to him all the time
As Genghis Khan's empire grew, his army became decreasingly Mongol in any ethnic sense Even in the early days it had been drawn from a confederation of Turco-Mongol tribes to which Uighurs, Kirghiz and others were gradually added. By the time the Khan died in 1227, Turkish warriors greatly outnumbered real Mongols whose role was now that of a leading élite.
And who were the real Mongols? The tribes Naiman, Jalair, Kongyrat, Kerei, Manghyt etc.? But they had been Turkic tribes all along.
"Turkish" does not equal "Turkic"
The modern Turkish of Anatolia literally have no trace of blood of the original Turkic tribes of Central Asia.
To simplify, the Turkic Seljuk tribes have established their rule in Anatolia and made the local Mediterranean population speak their language.
In other words, technically, the Turkish are genetically closer to the Greek (if not identical) and other Mediterranean neighbours but no one's ready to have that conversation
@@DiavoloVolpe It's their own fault for not resolving territorial dispute with Greece so they can join European union. No one would question then.
@@DiavoloVolpe No trace of blood of original Turkic tribes? Although Anatolia has been quite mixed since the beginning of time, pretty much, there are a lot of Turkic genes and culture remaining, despite the current Arabized image of the country.
To the contrary to your last point, Greeks of today probably have little genetic connection to thee Greeks of 5000-2000BC, because Anatolia is and have been quite the melting pot.
@@DiavoloVolpe The earliest civilizations of Anatolia and the Middle East were Turanian, that is proto-Turkic and proto-Finno-Ugrian. Read the 19th century great scholars, assyriologist, archeologists and linguists like Jules Oppert, Francois Lenormant, Henry Rawlinson and many more. They were those who discovered those civilizations and deciphered their scriptures and said that they had nothing to do with the Indo-Europians and the Semities but were very close to Turkic and Finno-Ugrian language and cultures. But then they were silenced. You can read James Fergusson about Tree and Serpent Worship and who was firdt to have hhat cult and how the memory of it survived in the Bible. The Sumerians, the first Babylonians, the Troyans, the Medes, the Etruscans, the Crete's first population, the Hatti, the Scythians, the Parthians and many more were Turanians. Even the Kurds and Armenians were Turanians in the beginning.
That look to the side camera was gold 😂
World Politics: "As 'such and such' group, we're unique.'
Human Biology: "Umm, not really."
Because if it moves we screw it?
A great analogy I've heard is that these haplogroups draw a Monet picture. If you look at it from afar and squint your eyes you can see some patterns. But at the individual level these patterns don't really hold. There may be these gene that is shared among 60% of French people, but also by 15% of Germans and 10% of Spaniards. If you have this gene 23andme will probably tell you you have French ancestry, but maybe it comes from those Germans, and you can also be French without having that gene.
@@user-zw5jj2uf1p That is a pretty good analogy.
@@user-zw5jj2uf1p I'm not educated enough about this to speak confidently on it, but I do know that DNA tests are based on modern populations of people, and no matter how far back you go to try and get a "pure" person as a representative, there's always going to be a little bit of something else mixed in. Or, they just read the DNA you give them wrong - I did My Heritage because I was interested in what it would say while also knowing that it is not accurate. Now, as far back as I can trace my family tree, I'm 100% British and Irish. And yet My Heritage told me I was 20% Iberian?! That would imply a grandparent from Iberia, and I know my grandparents and none of them are/were remotely Iberian. My general thinking is that the Celtic/Germanic mix got confused because Iberia also has a history of being Celtic with some Germanic peoples there. I don't think it was that we shared the same genes so much as the combination of genes I have led to them deciding it was Iberian. To add to this theory, I had a lower percentage of Irish than I theoretically should have considering my family tree, which makes me think that they got Iberian genes out of a British and Irish admixture.
Basically, I don't think however many genes that people share between their ancestral groups that trips things up, I think it's that there's a lot of places where very similar people groups have mixed historically, and those places are usually fairly close. There are a lot of places where Celtic people and Germanic people have met, and that includes the British isles and Iberia amongst other places! I think the genes aren't the same, but they act in a similar way, so to speak, so that they get read as the same unless you are going in extremely precisely and ideally have historical data to work off so you can tell when you maybe made a wrong call. Modern DNA testing companies don't get that, so they just give you some results and let you process them. I'm lucky that I knew they were dubious and also that I can trace my maternal family back far enough to know that everyone has come from the same place in England for many, many, many generations. If I hadn't, I think I would be very concerned that a grandparent had been lying to me, and it sucks to think that there are people out there who would put that much trust in something that is so easily messed up by simple population mixes! Everyone is a bit of something else in Europe!
Sorry this was a really long comment, I've had a chest infection and taken really strong painkillers and muscle relaxants because the coughing has made my chest muscles spasm. I hope I made sense. I promised to someone that I wouldn't talk to people on the internet with all this in my system but I wanted to reply to your comment because I thought it was interesting and I actually had something to contribute! Sorry for rambling hopefully you can understand me and I didn't just write my memoir for no reason. Also hopefully I don't regret writing this lmao
@@rosehipowl
Things like MyAncestary are just scams dude.
People have fooled them by sending in things like dog DNA and it coming back giving human breakdowns.
As for "100% English and Irish", yeah, that's not even how it works either. English isn't a genetic type. England has been invaded by France, Germany, Italy, Norway, Denmark etc etc etc for like 2000 straight years and for the past 5000 years has had continuous breeding with the local European populations, including Iberians (Spanish / Portugese)
I lived in Mongolia for a while and given how often his name appears on stuff it sure seems like he's everywhere
Thanks!
You know... at the end of the day... humans really are all related and our similarities are greater than our differences. And I think that's neat.
Cat kind, Dog kind, Equines, Human kind.
There is only one kind of us, the human kind (though we come in delightful flavors).
8:27 hank is a cube earther confirmed
That's just stupid. Everyone knows the Earth is a donut.
@@syd.a.m i think you mean a bagel
@@ivanfreiremathematically speaking, a torus.
I think it means far reaches. Corners are farthest from center. Hardest to get to physically and in distance.
He clearly traces out the tetrahedral earth stfu
𝗛𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝘄, 𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝗾𝘂𝗲𝗿𝗲𝗱, 𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗮𝗺𝗲
He rapped
And clapped
He gooned
He pooned
Repeatedly. 🍆💦
I'm just sitting here, shaking my head in amazement. Humanity and genetics are so dang cool.
And gross. We are so incestuous.
@@abraxasjinx5207speak for yourself 😅😅
@@abraxasjinx5207 why is that gross.
@@n-hexane8271 why is incest gross? Really?! Have you had that "birds and the bees" talk with your mom and dad yet?
@@abraxasjinx5207 it's not gross, i think it's hot.
So, are we all 78th cousins?
Closer than that, apparently.
My decision to not marry at all was the right one it seems
Hi cousin!
Vsauce did a video where he worked out statistically we are all (so many, can't remember number) cousins Via the quantity of people who HAVE lived vs. The current population
The math says it’s probably at the most 50th cousins to anybody on earth. The math models also suggest that the most recent common ancestor that everyone shared lived about 2,000 years ago probably near Taiwan or the South China Sea.
I love bringing up this trivia bit to people because when you tell people that we are all related closer than you think the response I get is “well of course because Adam and Eve or Noah”. And I’m like no I mean much closer than Noah. Think the time of Christ.
Also, also, actually, actually if you are the same ethnicity and live in the same country as your significant other there is about a 10% chance that you are at most 10th cousins or less. That brings it to about the 1500s give or take. I tell that to people and they freak out and act like I told them they married their siblings or Uncle or something. They don’t understand that once you get past 2nd cousins it’s genetically insignificant that they share one common ancestor with their spouses.
Your fine people. Just enjoy the fact that we are all part of a big family called the human race and try to love one another and get along ❤
Thanx, enjoyed this one. Appreciate you Hank! 💙🌻💙
3:16 That B camera was a jumpscare for a SciShow video and it's genius.
The expenditure for a side camera was worth it.
Amazing video! Loved the deep research that went into this
Proud to be related to you, Hank 🪺
One thing people forget is that Gengis was quite old by the time his empire became so global
His sons and daughters would not have been as old as he was, I would assume.
as long as you can get a bonner, you can still get someone pregnant
@@pattheplanterlmao
@@pattheplanteragreed. His genes didn’t have to be passed on by only him. If his many descendants spread across the territory, they carried his genes.
What a well researched video, great script, I like this style, more thorough and specific.
"Everyone was wrong about Genghis Khan...he was actually Mexican and he hated horses ...very big into arts and crafts"
LMAOOOOO
Great shirt Hank
Dang, that's one of the best videos on this channel, or even generally on the topic. Really well done.
mind blown yet again! Good knowledge. Thanks SciShow.❤🎉😮
FINALLY! Thanks for tackling this one.
You have to account for the absolute size of the human population at the time of Genghis Khan. Fewer people means larger influence of the individual. 8 billion today vs 100s of millions then.
Great video, thanks Hank 🤗
Gengis Khan's tomb must contain several museums worth of invaluable treasures
@@sqlexp Even if that's the case (I don't know enough to say either way), they conquered lots of places, and one of the main draws to conquering places is getting to take their stuff. It may not be specifically Mongol artefacts, but there could still be plenty of neat stuff.
Nah bro he was hard he didn't want that, he ordered a group to bury him in the steppes then ordered them all killed so no one would know where he was. They think he's likely next to a river.
@@sqlexp bruh you did NOT just hit them with the "uncivilized" lmaooooo like ???? what are you like an ancient Chinese orphan whose parents perished at the hands of the Mongol raids? fhskdfhghrg Just an absolutely WILD choice of words there my guy.
@@EnkiduIX Well not all peoples want to take their riches to their graves (literally) like for example Egyptians. For example, Vikings had very simple ship burial. Also to be honest... maybe leave your riches to living people so you don't get robbed after your death, your grave disturbed, your bones used for whatever weird thing future may bring (like DNA testing or cloning or whatnot :D )
@@sqlexp Racist as hell, but yes, Mongol tombs weren't initially all that fancy.
Beautiful. Thank you Hank!
We are all related! We all breathe the same air. We must look after this biosphere if we are to survive.
(camera change) "-and have NEVER been found!" feels like exposition in a story leading up to the discovery of said remains
If we are all related, then logically, we are all related to Genghis Khan. It's just that some, are closer related than others.
He was also the first world leader to identify the need to protect natural areas as a benefit to all of mankind. He basically created national parks to ensure overgrazing didn’t occur. So he wasn’t just a ruthless conqueror, and horn dog, he was a naturalist as well.
good joke
This will come as news to my nomadic horde.
Lol
8:48 I first saw this statue from drone footage on a TV show discussing Genghis Kahn. It's a statue of him on horseback. There is an observation deck on the back of the horse. You get to the observation deck from a door located in his crotch. You can also view it on Google Earth.
7:43 it seems like the Persian Gulf is mislabeled on that map. Isn't that the Red Sea?
As a Persian, I have to sadly confirm :))
@@mqasemniksefat4202 yeah it's nowhere near Persia/Iran, so my mind did a double take when I saw the label.
You can't trust the average American to know basic geography lol.
@lionandwolfboy8714 well, I'm American and I pointed it out.
@@l.n.3372 I am too.
Thanks Hank.
Thanks to learn I was wrong telling this story. And I love your conclusion.
I love the ending of this video!
That was such a kind ending. This video didn't go where I expected, but it turned out to be far more than the premise.
In the Google docs page you link to with all of the sources, it would be helpful if the source links also had the title of the article, or the year, or the authors. Sometimes you mention a specific article in the video and I want to go read it, but it is a little bit hard because I have to click through all of the different links to try to figure out which one it is.
I mean, you are providing a list of sources, which is way better than most content on the internet does, even among science communication, so, you know, thank you, and please do not take this as criticism.
If you wanted to crowdsource a solution, you could have a wiki version of the sources document thet could be edited by fans with accounts, or maybe just Patreon patrons, and they could add little notes if they felt like it.
Looking great Hank!
definitely not I cry when I eat spicy food
But do you cry when you bite into your enemies?
The family disappointment still counts as family you know /jk
This makes a lot more sense given what I've learned of his life lately.😅 Also Hank, your shirt was on point in this episode!!
I’m really glad someone finally dug into this claim, because it hasn’t ever sat right with me. On account of it not making any kind of sense.
This is so true. Took the DNA test and found that I'm of course mostly Irish and Nordic countries but I still have about 2% from India and Sri Lanka region
“I had this conversion recently….To be curt, the persons did not understand the difference between being born in a geographic location versus the genetic composition of biological hosts….I proceeded to pull out of their theory without pillaging or raping their village- questionable beliefs is the twin sibling to faith.”
JG and the Mongols is such a nostalgia ❤ thank you for coming back to it
I like that SciShow did this but they failed to mention the degradation of the Y-Chromoson making it harder ti detect individual ancestry using it as well as other external factors which contribute towards the inability to accurately trace genetic histories including as they mentioned a lack of concrete sampling material.
Good video! We know less than we think.
Love that closing statement Hank 👏👏👏
The audacity to make a whole video about the Mongolian empire and John didn’t show up once
Kibbles and bits and bits and bits! Great episode!
Fascinating episode.
The “good on ya, take on THE BIG TASKS” WAS SO FUNNY I had to rewatch it multiple times 🤣
An alternate title for the mythologically minded: Are we all related to Zeus?
Yep
That sounds like an interesting video. I'm onboard to watch.
How about Woden, I don’t want to live life like an electric eel
Plausible ngl
Congrats on 8 million!!!
Sci show, please do an update on Cheddar Man, pleeeeese
I heard he was lactose intolerant which was pretty disappointing for a cheddar man
@@ivanfreire 😆
That 2020 study from Khvorykh et al is actually really, really interesting
3:15 - Ahh! Surprise camera change!
This is a good video it seems well researched 🎉
All I'm saying is I've played enough ck3 to know how this goes
Incest?
That shirt/overshirt combo is cool
Beautiful sentiment about how we are all kin in the grand scheme of things lol💗
We already knew that... we are the same species... if you find this beautiful, grass and wheat are also kin... and fruit flies and humans are also kin... it all depends how far back we go.
It is a shallow and meaningless sentiment
@@SioxerNikita you have to love who you are before you can appreciate & love others. If you find things that make you someone you don’t want to be, change. Until you are capable of that, your cynicism will be your bedmate. I prefer a more lovely bedmate.
@@SioxerNikita 🤡 oh u so deeeeep
@@kariannecrysler640 It's not cynicism but you are living in a dream world
@@SioxerNikita ideas for solutions are dreams in a sense. So thank you for the compliment
Nicely done. 😊
All I know is 23 and me linked me up with Viking era bones, and ancient Dominican Republic peoples, and I’m American so you know I’m mixed. Wild days. Can’t wait to be related to more bones. (My haplogroup is the ‘first peoples of Americas’ Bering land bridge natives and all that.
Important video! Thank you team.
Whats crazy is i just commented this on another vid a few days ago about the FBI director looking up you-know-who's Google searches:
"Here's what the FBI would find in my Google searches:
- Oven temp cast iron pan seared steak
- Release Spray for fiberglass molds
- How many people today related to Genghis Khan"
Incredible minds think alike 😃
I think I need to have a talk with your spouse if those three questions happened in the same evening. Is he still..... above ground? 😜
That's interesting about the IBD study. It sounds like a lot of ancient ancestry content could be gleaned by looking at those zones, whereas current methods mostly look at Y and mitochondrial lineages.
You made this whole video without dropping the "we're the exception" clip?!
Nice video.
3:14 That tangent camera was perfection! 👌
I know a lot of people like the tangent cam, but I don't get the point. I can tell when the speaker is about to turn and it just throws me.
I guess as long as everyone is having fun, no harm = no foul.
Thanks, Hank for very interesting. Genetic report.
The idea that the common ancestor to everyone but some perhaps uncontacted tribes lived ~500BCE as seafarer in East Asia is interesting too 🧬🤯
Seems more likely that probably a Genghis type mostly lost to history with omniscient POV/data gathering would be common ancestor yeah 2600 years ago mentioned here hmmm yeah Great Pyramid builders definitely our common ancestors - oh aside from y and mitochondrial dna very hard to go back more than 500 years if not impossible with dna techniques as far as I know so Great Pyramid builders as our common ancestors just statistics vs scientifically verifiable in any specific sense or whatever yeah it is an interesting philosophical idea that aside from 100% pure blood New World people and a few other isolated groups yeah Great Pyramid people are on our family tree as direct ancestors unless somehow they were all massacred after completing it or similar
I like the new stage setup. Or backdrop. I like the new duds too. 👍
He certainly "horde" around a lot.
😂😂😂
There's a vid of a man from the Native American Red Leg tribe that did the 23 and me thing. His mother also did one and it said that she was 16.3% Mongolian. As a kid I was always amazed that the majority of the world's population looks Asian, Hispanic, Inuit etc.