Them Ole Perkins Engines Can't Be Beat And The Old Original True Blue Fords Say On Models 9700 On Down Were Very Reliable As Well For Us Down Here In Southern Decatur & Grady County Georgia. If I Remember Correctly In The Late 70's Early 80's KMC Built Some Planters That Mimic The JD 71's...Loved Our 180 & 285 MF, And The 7700 Fords...😊
Great video! I plant around 5a of pumpkins in New york..I use my transplanter to plant mine..slow but the spacing is right on! An i use the older ford's for my tractors..they are very reliable as well! My pumpkins are running right now.
I would line up with a bolt on the steering axle on the 1850 Oliver when I was cultivator corn when i planted wheat my row marker was a board mounted on the front weights with chains hanging down
We had a massy ferguson 135 gas. I remember the gear would lock and I had to un screw the round cap on the side and stick a big screwdriver down in the gear to unlock it. We use it to pull a cucumber picker and cultivate with it.
@PatrickShivers It was a 3 point hitch cucumber picker. It was a four row with wooden benches going across and a tin roof. We sat on it and picked cucumbers. This was in the mid 90s. I'm from Mount Olive NC. Home of Mount Olive pickle company. We grew cucumbers for them. I have to ask my uncle what the brand was. The reason we used the 135 was because it could almost crawl with. It was alittle too heavy for the 135. When we turned around at the end we had to stand on the front for extra weight
@PatrickShivers It was a 3 point hitch cucumber picker. It was a four row with wooden benches going across and a tin roof. We sat on it and picked cucumbers. This was in the mid 90s. I'm from Mount Olive NC. Home of Mount Olive pickle company. We grew cucumbers for them. I have to ask my uncle what the brand was. The reason we used the 135 was because it could almost crawl with. It was alittle too heavy for the 135. When we turned around at the end we had to stand on the front for extra weight
@@PatrickShivers Its a handy little tractor. Its the 38 horsepower version and the little brother of the 255, 265, 275, and 285. It was made in Detroit.
First tractor I ever drove was a 135, My great grandfather’s. Stand up grab the steering wheel and stand on the clutch. Pulling tobacco wagons back in the late 70’s early 80’s.
I dealt with a Ferguson TO-30. 12 years old, and I had to jump on both the clutch and the brakes, and the L brake was in the L side, well behind the clutch. How I didn't wreck things is still a mystery to me. Never cottoned to MF after that, even after they caught up with the rest of the world for pedals.
Agree with you in the 135 and the 165 Fergusons. Disagree about the 71 flex planter, even though I use them also, as being more reliable than the Covington Planter. I have said many, many times, "If you have seed that a Covington will not plant, get more seed." Prowl/Treflan/Balan/Sonlan and Dual will help with weed control
Love the first generation guidance. I haven’t seen that in a long time. I grew up on a 35 & 165. The first tractor I ever drove was a 165. I miss those days.
My daughter and Son in Law put out 2 acres of Pumpkins here in VA. They figured something out to plant with, and I think it involved an old hand planter I had. Let's hope that their youth and enthusiasm will make it happen for them. Great video, Patrick! Nothing like rolling old iron!👍👍
No telling how many semi loads of 135’s my grandfather sold when he owned the MF dealership outside of Adel! He used to have them shipped in by railroad.
@@PatrickShivers I wish I was as half as good as that old feller was. He was either loved or liked by everyone that knew him. I’d absolutely love to hear what he would have to say about agriculture these days.
Had a 67 and a 73 MF135. Crank broke in the 73. Ended up putting the 67 engine on the 73 tractor, using it still today. It is way too dry in my part of Alabama to plant anything. Sure, sound good.
Hey Patrick, Have you grown collard, kale and turnip greens through the winter months? If not you might try it. They all grow through the winter here at my place which is just 7 miles north of I 85 in Tallassee Alabama.
I bought a 1973 MF 135 when I was 18!! What an upgrade from Ford 8N 😂😂😂 I’ve got some of the orange pumpkin seeds will plant next week. I’m in northwest Florida.
I'll definitely be giving the orange bulldawg variety a shot next year in my garden. Been looking for a reliable variety I can plant after my sweet corn. Thank you, sir!
@@PatrickShivers i had the same experiences with the Masseys. I am or was a green guy but every brand now has some issue that just makes you wonder why.
@@billygoff7388 as mentioned, I planted Dill’s Atlantic Giant & a brown warty from a viewer. Not mentioned in the video I also planted silver moon and I am about to plant We be little
Great vid Patrick been growing pumpkins here in UK ( 30k ) 10 acres .. I start ours off in soil pots in glasshouse mid May and plant out mid June because of soil temperature not always reliable in May to germinate them The use of gramoxone is a fab stale seed bed technique We can’t use it in UK anymore but used a couple times once to clean up ground pre sowing an once pre emergence of crop is a winner 👍 that’s how I grow the sunflowers but use roundup nowadays. 12 showings over 12 weeks to come ready all summer /autumn check out Rupps seeds sunrich orange sunflower the tops for quality cut flowers ( PYO in mind … 👊
I have a couple questions, would you consider yourself a small or average size farm and also how much land would a small or average farm plant. I understand it varies considering what your planting but on average how much does a small/average South Georgia farm plant?
Average south Georgia farm is 2,000 acres. I am a 1 man farm (no employees). I farm 400 acres of row crops 10-20 acres of produce, 350 pecan trees, and a small Brangus herd. I also operate a sawmill and build custom furniture and guitars.
@@jonfloyd6013 I borrowed this planter and 135 from my uncle. We started out with a plate modified for watermelons (all but 3 notches were filled in with caulk). It’s notches weren’t deep enough to consistently drop seeds so my uncle dug one out with deeper notches, not sure which one it was, he has stacks of them.
I just planted my pumpkins, Patrick how do you store your seed I have tried storeing them lots of ways but most of the time they get too hot and go bad
@@colefletcher-ox7xd most of my seeds are in metal storage container…slightly cooler than an oven. Like a true redneck, I do keep 5-10 species of vegetable seeds in my bedroom next to the gun safe.
What are your thoughts on a covington planter?? i bought one in may and have had the worst time getting it to plant uniform and not too deep even though i have the disc openers at 1.5 inches for my beans. im looking at either removing the shovel on the front of it and/or buying a JD 71 planter and sell the covington....
@@Richard31406 I see more old covington planters at the auctions than any other kind. I think the 71s are considered to be superior to them. I run a 7000 planter on most of my produce. The covington and 71s are easier to get parts for (not at the JD place) than the 7000, but the 7000 is the best if you’re planting acres. If I was planting big gardens I’d stick to 71 or Covington. Does your Covington have a down pressure spring? JD planters have down pressure separate from depth set. If you’re running too much down pressure that could be your issue.
@@PatrickShivers Hey thanks for the info! no i dont have a down pressure spring, it floats on the ground. i just bought a tiller and going to till up the small amount of beans ive got planted and replant them this weekend. i plant about 2 acres so my garden is small but this is my first year so ive got alot to learn. my dad farmed a long time ago and he had jd 71's and said they would be the best for what im doing. Really enjoy your channel and thanks for the info, if you know anybody selling a single row jd 71 let me know i live in the boro'. GATA!
@@Richard31406 best opportunity to find a 71 will be November-March farm auctions. Check the online auction/farm equipment sites as well. Hail Southern!
@@PatrickShivers Update, i planted about 5000 corn seeds 2 weeks ago with the covington. about 20 rows, only 1 came row came up halfway uniform. the other rows are very sporadic. im selling my covington or throwing diesel on it. ive planted 5 times now beans and corn with it. i do better hand planting it. going to try to find a jd71 this fall for next spring. Gata!
@@Richard31406 a few things that may help if you’re not doing them already: 1. Uniform speed around 3 mph. 2. Prepare ground then let it get a good rain (or irrigating) on it to firm it up some. If ground is too soft seed depths will be wildly inconsistent. 3. Run the planter about 1” above the ground for 40’ and see if it’s dropping the seeds uniform. If it is then the planter isn’t the issue. If it isn’t then there may be a worn out (or multiple) sprocket or you may need different plates. 4. Are you in clay? If so you may be planting them correctly but then getting a crust over the top that is preventing emergence. I always scratch behind the planter and find the seeds. This lets you know how it’s spacing them and what depth they are. They come up better if you plant into moisture than planting in dry dirt and then irrigating. You’ll want the top of the ground dry but the seed zone to have plenty of moisture. 5. Of course don’t plant too deep. If the seeds are deeper than the main knuckle on your finger then it’s putting them too deep. You will get a sporadic stand when planting too deep.
@@FC-cz6zd I save some. The Dill’s Atlantic Giant (hyper expensive) were saved from a 96 pound pumpkin I grew 2 years ago. I saved a lot of orange bull dog seeds from a few selected pumpkins last year, but can’t figure out where I put them so I had to buy back in
Every time you mention in a video that you try to plant enough variety to get paid in all 12 months per year I say to myself that you need to get some dairy cattle. Lol
My great grandfather had a dairy. We lived on it and my dad milked cows until I was 3. Then we moved to grandpa’s row crop/pig operation. 2 things I’m not planning on doing is getting back into pigs or dairy.
Them Ole Perkins Engines Can't Be Beat And The Old Original True Blue Fords Say On Models 9700 On Down Were Very Reliable As Well For Us Down Here In Southern Decatur & Grady County Georgia. If I Remember Correctly In The Late 70's Early 80's KMC Built Some Planters That Mimic The JD 71's...Loved Our 180 & 285 MF, And The 7700 Fords...😊
@@lamarcutts2511 😳I’ve NEVER heard of a kmc planter or a 180 MF. Got something to look up now.
I worked for UGARD center and we used the 71 planter unit for planting plots
I have a 71 s on 1440 notill frame i agree well built and simple
I didn't realize they had plates for those kinda seed and even cucumber..... u do make some great videos and explain very well ..
@@blakelinning851 thanks for watching Blake. They weren’t pumpkin specific plates, but they worked
Great video! I plant around 5a of pumpkins in New york..I use my transplanter to plant mine..slow but the spacing is right on! An i use the older ford's for my tractors..they are very reliable as well! My pumpkins are running right now.
How do you deal with all that heat down there?
I would line up with a bolt on the steering axle on the 1850 Oliver when I was cultivator corn when i planted wheat my row marker was a board mounted on the front weights with chains hanging down
@@chrisbubba6000 I’ve heard of using a pipe across front of tractor when pulling a grain drill many times.
We had a massy ferguson 135 gas. I remember the gear would lock and I had to un screw the round cap on the side and stick a big screwdriver down in the gear to unlock it. We use it to pull a cucumber picker and cultivate with it.
@@markisb3585 pull type cucumber picker?! You can’t say something like that without dropping a model/make. I got to know more about this.
@PatrickShivers It was a 3 point hitch cucumber picker. It was a four row with wooden benches going across and a tin roof. We sat on it and picked cucumbers. This was in the mid 90s. I'm from Mount Olive NC. Home of Mount Olive pickle company. We grew cucumbers for them. I have to ask my uncle what the brand was. The reason we used the 135 was because it could almost crawl with. It was alittle too heavy for the 135. When we turned around at the end we had to stand on the front for extra weight
@PatrickShivers It was a 3 point hitch cucumber picker. It was a four row with wooden benches going across and a tin roof. We sat on it and picked cucumbers. This was in the mid 90s. I'm from Mount Olive NC. Home of Mount Olive pickle company. We grew cucumbers for them. I have to ask my uncle what the brand was. The reason we used the 135 was because it could almost crawl with. It was alittle too heavy for the 135. When we turned around at the end we had to stand on the front for extra weight
love those masseys grew up farming with them. I currently have a 230 diesel. Been searching for a 135 diesel.
@@Dave-fo1cb dad had a 225 once. I’ve never operated a 230
@@PatrickShivers Its a handy little tractor. Its the 38 horsepower version and the little brother of the 255, 265, 275, and 285. It was made in Detroit.
First tractor I ever drove was a 135, My great grandfather’s. Stand up grab the steering wheel and stand on the clutch. Pulling tobacco wagons back in the late 70’s early 80’s.
@@Man-cv5ws great tractors. No telling how many people started out just like you did on a 135
I dealt with a Ferguson TO-30. 12 years old, and I had to jump on both the clutch and the brakes, and the L brake was in the L side, well behind the clutch. How I didn't wreck things is still a mystery to me. Never cottoned to MF after that, even after they caught up with the rest of the world for pedals.
Massey Ferguson!!! It’s official y’all good people I knew it 😂👍🇺🇸
@@Florida239 😂 That’s my uncle’s 135. I have 2 videos of my 135 and 1 video with my dad’s MINT 165 in the background running an auger.
Yetter makes those planters now. I have a two row planter using them. They are identical to the JD 71. They drop very consistant.
Agree with you in the 135 and the 165 Fergusons. Disagree about the 71 flex planter, even though I use them also, as being more reliable than the Covington Planter. I have said many, many times, "If you have seed that a Covington will not plant, get more seed." Prowl/Treflan/Balan/Sonlan and Dual will help with weed control
Love the first generation guidance. I haven’t seen that in a long time. I grew up on a 35 & 165. The first tractor I ever drove was a 165. I miss those days.
Crotoleria will lay dormant in fallow ground for years. Start working the field again and that mess pops back up.
My daughter and Son in Law put out 2 acres of Pumpkins here in VA. They figured something out to plant with, and I think it involved an old hand planter I had. Let's hope that their youth and enthusiasm will make it happen for them. Great video, Patrick! Nothing like rolling old iron!👍👍
Please give us some follow up videos on the pumpkin crop. I'm very interested in seeing how this turns out.
I release a video every week detailing what’s happening on the farm. I grew pumpkins last year and posted several videos during the process.
No telling how many semi loads of 135’s my grandfather sold when he owned the MF dealership outside of Adel! He used to have them shipped in by railroad.
@@jackweeks8099 if you’re descended from an Adel, Georgia MF tractor salesman then you are a legit good ole boy.
@@PatrickShivers I wish I was as half as good as that old feller was. He was either loved or liked by everyone that knew him. I’d absolutely love to hear what he would have to say about agriculture these days.
I like the 135 Massry. That series of tractors are some of the prettiest Massey ever built.
@@stevenarnold1960 they remind me of a little hot rod. There is sone videos out there of people putting V8s in them.
Gen1 guidance system. 😂
Great old small equipement i love 135
Didnt know you could no till with those planters.
@@michaelschreiner95 …..if the ground is wet and you got the down pressure set full bore
You get cultivator blight without that sophisticated guide system. Keep er straight.
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Enjoyed the video Patrick! God bless
Thanks Greg
Love the 135, I cut teeth on super 90. Hope the pumpkins make a crop.
Had a 67 and a 73 MF135. Crank broke in the 73. Ended up putting the 67 engine on the 73 tractor, using it still today. It is way too dry in my part of Alabama to plant anything. Sure, sound good.
You are doing a great job and I enjoy watching. Peach and Houston county retired farmer
@@lannyfenster7461 thanks for watching!
Like your videos, learn something most every one I watch.
@@johnscurlock1204 thanks John!
Hello, Patrick! What a fine 135! At the end, it became a transformer with a V8! Be lucky with the pumpkin.
@@luisnunes7933 thanks as always Luis!
@@PatrickShivers 👌
Hey Patrick, Have you grown collard, kale and turnip greens through the winter months? If not you might try it. They all grow through the winter here at my place which is just 7 miles north of I 85 in Tallassee Alabama.
@@DeepSouthBama56 I have grown them at small scale/large garden a couple times. Haven’t tried marketing them though.
Howdy Patrick
Howdy Tug!
I bought a 1973 MF 135 when I was 18!! What an upgrade from Ford 8N 😂😂😂
I’ve got some of the orange pumpkin seeds will plant next week. I’m in northwest Florida.
@@ddrake54fl definitely an upgrade. Where at in NW Fla? I’m not far from Florida line.
@@PatrickShivers
DeFuniak Springs, Florida is the nearest town to my farm. Mainly have pine timber with several plot and garden areas.
@@ddrake54fl I’m about 2 hours north east of you
I grew up around 4240s and a 4450 that had row markers for cultivating, didn't know what it was for until I was an adult
@@jaybud1080 my dad’s 4430 has a chain that hangs down on the row, my 4020 has the original gen 1 guidance.
I'll definitely be giving the orange bulldawg variety a shot next year in my garden. Been looking for a reliable variety I can plant after my sweet corn. Thank you, sir!
@@robclower9606 I harvested over 1,500 orange bulldogs on 1 acre last year. Caught a lot of late summer rains, which is highly unusual for this area
@@PatrickShivers That's amazing for your area!
Ford 3000 in my opinion was just as reliable and easier to fix but I hated sitting "inside" the tractor
I know Ford people think old Fords are the most reliable tractors, but all of them I have been around needed something fixed on them constantly.
@@PatrickShivers i had the same experiences with the Masseys. I am or was a green guy but every brand now has some issue that just makes you wonder why.
@@jamescausey2387 yep
Patrick what other 3 types of pumpkins did you plant? i planted orange bulldawgs as well!
@@billygoff7388 as mentioned, I planted Dill’s Atlantic Giant & a brown warty from a viewer. Not mentioned in the video I also planted silver moon and I am about to plant We be little
Great vid Patrick been growing pumpkins here in UK ( 30k ) 10 acres .. I start ours off in soil pots in glasshouse mid May and plant out mid June because of soil temperature not always reliable in May to germinate them The use of gramoxone is a fab stale seed bed technique We can’t use it in UK anymore but used a couple times once to clean up ground pre sowing an once pre emergence of crop is a winner 👍 that’s how I grow the sunflowers but use roundup nowadays. 12 showings over 12 weeks to come ready all summer /autumn check out Rupps seeds sunrich orange sunflower the tops for quality cut flowers ( PYO in mind … 👊
I have a couple questions, would you consider yourself a small or average size farm and also how much land would a small or average farm plant. I understand it varies considering what your planting but on average how much does a small/average South Georgia farm plant?
Average south Georgia farm is 2,000 acres. I am a 1 man farm (no employees). I farm 400 acres of row crops 10-20 acres of produce, 350 pecan trees, and a small Brangus herd. I also operate a sawmill and build custom furniture and guitars.
What kind of plate did you use in the 71?
@@jonfloyd6013 I borrowed this planter and 135 from my uncle. We started out with a plate modified for watermelons (all but 3 notches were filled in with caulk). It’s notches weren’t deep enough to consistently drop seeds so my uncle dug one out with deeper notches, not sure which one it was, he has stacks of them.
I just planted my pumpkins, Patrick how do you store your seed I have tried storeing them lots of ways but most of the time they get too hot and go bad
@@colefletcher-ox7xd most of my seeds are in metal storage container…slightly cooler than an oven. Like a true redneck, I do keep 5-10 species of vegetable seeds in my bedroom next to the gun safe.
@@PatrickShivers 🤣
@@PatrickShivers ok thanks Patrick
What are your thoughts on a covington planter?? i bought one in may and have had the worst time getting it to plant uniform and not too deep even though i have the disc openers at 1.5 inches for my beans. im looking at either removing the shovel on the front of it and/or buying a JD 71 planter and sell the covington....
@@Richard31406 I see more old covington planters at the auctions than any other kind. I think the 71s are considered to be superior to them. I run a 7000 planter on most of my produce. The covington and 71s are easier to get parts for (not at the JD place) than the 7000, but the 7000 is the best if you’re planting acres. If I was planting big gardens I’d stick to 71 or Covington. Does your Covington have a down pressure spring? JD planters have down pressure separate from depth set. If you’re running too much down pressure that could be your issue.
@@PatrickShivers Hey thanks for the info! no i dont have a down pressure spring, it floats on the ground. i just bought a tiller and going to till up the small amount of beans ive got planted and replant them this weekend. i plant about 2 acres so my garden is small but this is my first year so ive got alot to learn. my dad farmed a long time ago and he had jd 71's and said they would be the best for what im doing. Really enjoy your channel and thanks for the info, if you know anybody selling a single row jd 71 let me know i live in the boro'. GATA!
@@Richard31406 best opportunity to find a 71 will be November-March farm auctions. Check the online auction/farm equipment sites as well. Hail Southern!
@@PatrickShivers Update, i planted about 5000 corn seeds 2 weeks ago with the covington. about 20 rows, only 1 came row came up halfway uniform. the other rows are very sporadic. im selling my covington or throwing diesel on it. ive planted 5 times now beans and corn with it. i do better hand planting it. going to try to find a jd71 this fall for next spring. Gata!
@@Richard31406 a few things that may help if you’re not doing them already:
1. Uniform speed around 3 mph.
2. Prepare ground then let it get a good rain (or irrigating) on it to firm it up some. If ground is too soft seed depths will be wildly inconsistent.
3. Run the planter about 1” above the ground for 40’ and see if it’s dropping the seeds uniform. If it is then the planter isn’t the issue. If it isn’t then there may be a worn out (or multiple) sprocket or you may need different plates.
4. Are you in clay? If so you may be planting them correctly but then getting a crust over the top that is preventing emergence. I always scratch behind the planter and find the seeds. This lets you know how it’s spacing them and what depth they are. They come up better if you plant into moisture than planting in dry dirt and then irrigating. You’ll want the top of the ground dry but the seed zone to have plenty of moisture.
5. Of course don’t plant too deep. If the seeds are deeper than the main knuckle on your finger then it’s putting them too deep. You will get a sporadic stand when planting too deep.
$100/lb? Wow!
@@FC-cz6zd yep
@@FC-cz6zd yep, meanwhile cotton farmers are complaining about seed cost….if they only knew.
@@PatrickShivers It's probably not worth the time and effort to save seeds?
@@FC-cz6zd I save some. The Dill’s Atlantic Giant (hyper expensive) were saved from a 96 pound pumpkin I grew 2 years ago. I saved a lot of orange bull dog seeds from a few selected pumpkins last year, but can’t figure out where I put them so I had to buy back in
@@PatrickShivers FYI, I'll get some Black Habanero sauce to you w/in the next few weeks.
Every time you mention in a video that you try to plant enough variety to get paid in all 12 months per year I say to myself that you need to get some dairy cattle.
Lol
My great grandfather had a dairy. We lived on it and my dad milked cows until I was 3. Then we moved to grandpa’s row crop/pig operation. 2 things I’m not planning on doing is getting back into pigs or dairy.
@@PatrickShivers understandable