⚔️🐠 AtomRC Swordfish FPV - Testing DJI on a LOW River Run
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2023
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I returned to a location I haven't flown from for a while as I really wanted to see how well DJI digital would handle the low river run I used to fly regularly on 1.3g video (all footage is DVR recorded in the goggles, there was no on board recording). On board is a standard Caddx Air Unit running 1200mw in 50mbps. There are places where VLOS is blocked by land or trees so I knew the picture would get bad in places. I have to say the more I use DJI the more it’s impressed me! Personally I think it did very well on this route, and that picture low to the ground at 10/11km is still so clear! It's also worth noting that Crossfire worked really well too considering I am using one of the floppy free antennas that come with the nano rx... and it's mounted amongst a lot of electronics. Let me know what you thought watching this... did DJI do better or worse than you expected? And please remember to leave a reaction before you leave. Thanks 😃
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========AtomRC Swordfish Setup========
In the Air:
-AtomRC Swordfish - RTH Version (includes PNP gear plus FC & GPS) ► tiny.cc/AtomRC-Swordfish
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-Caddx Polar Air Unit ► tiny.cc/CaddxPolarAU
-TBS Crossfire Nano Rx ► tiny.cc/TBS-Nano-Rx
-4S Lipo ► tiny.cc/3000-4S
On me:
-DJI V2 Goggles ► tiny.cc/DJI-V2-Goggles
-TrueRC Omni Stubbies ► tiny.cc/TrueRC-Stubby
-TrueRC X2Air's ► tiny.cc/DJI-X2-Air
-Sandisk 64gb V30 Micro SD for goggle DVR ► UK Link: tiny.cc/SanDiskV30UK - USA Link: tiny.cc/SanDiskV30USA
-TX16s Transmitter ► tiny.cc/Radiomaster-TX16s
-Crossfire Micro Tx V2 ► tiny.cc/TBS-Crossfire-TX16s
========3D Printing Equipment========
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In this video I'm flying the AtomRC Swordfish - RTH Version: tiny.cc/AtomRC-Swordfish (use coupon code 'AdamGdoesFPV' for $10 off). The full kit list can be found in the video description along with links.
Thank you for watching and please leave a comment letting me know what you think about the low flight performance of the DJI digital system 😎
Ehh where you been with your promo? mine just arrived and ordered without promo :(
@@VadimBryksin doh! Well I did add the promo code on my previous Swordfish video in the video description
I'm only getting a $10 discount
@@suborgulag7289 it reveals that even with discount it is still cheaper to buy from Ali then from official website
@@suborgulag7289 It looks like they may have changed the discount to $10. I've updated the comment to reflect that sorry.
Hell yeah Adam DJI and the Swordfish got some legs on them, got out there a good ways and made it back with solid video, thanks for sharing!
Thanks 😁The Swordfish is a nice little plane and the DJI system is really proving it can perform! 😎
Adam its amazing experience, nice flight and job. Congratulations
Thanks a lot! 😁🎉
Very cool video and country! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching and commenting 😁👍🏻
Nice video Adam! I also like the DJI FPV air units more and more. Great distance you have flown with this system.
Cheers mate 😃 They do perform well! Next I need to try this with the O3
love the song
😎 🙌🏻
Epic run mate!! Surprising how well the digital system holds up. Impressive stuff!
Cheers Stuwe, not good enough for the river section of your downhill but still excellent for 5.8g! 😎
@@AdamGdoesFPV you can't compare apples and pears :) it's a very nice run. my ultimate fav of your exquisit collection
That’s one hell of a flight. I really think I should push mine more now after seeing that 😍👍👍👍
It's extremely capable mate, as long as you don't break LOS too badly 😅
You definitely convinced me to pass a swordfish. Excellent video !!!!! saludos desde CRC
It's a good little plane. Thanks for watching 😃
That was impressive man, good effort
Cheers Giz. I was impressed with how it went, and maybe in places I still could have gone lower 😃
Cool flight. I'm always thinking about where to fly next to have longest possible runs of cool "lines" low to the ground over trees and rivers. A higher start place of course helps. Love things like the wind display in inav now. Wonder how the code calcs the wind. Gives me more and more confidence with my planes to go out further. Have the same antennas on gv2 and use them for o3 and vistas.
Thanks 😁 I’m the same, looking for places I can launch and get a good low line for following a trail or river, it’s the most fun flying! I use google maps/earth to search for places like this.
I do like the new wind speed/direction feature, I fact it was one of my favourite additions in iNav 6. Darren Lines did a video about it, some clever guy worked on the calculations and it’s apparently quite accurate. I think it requires you to change heading every now and then to remain accurate.
I do like this antenna setup. Hard to beat TrueRC antennas. Thanks for watching 🙌🏻😃
Great footage, was interesting watching the OSD display. 😃
Glad you enjoyed it. Flights can be a lot more people when you can see all the data 👌🏻
Nice!
Thanks! 😁
Splendid 😊
Thanks 🤗
Very nice!
Thank you 🙌🏻
Impressive!
Thanks 😃
Pretty close to the same setup I am using on all my planes, radiomaster tx16S with crossfire full size. DJI original airunits or vistas on v2 goggles with true rc patches. It is a really good combination.
Yeah it works well! I have a couple of O3s and I also have a new pair of goggle 2 which I haven’t tried yet. Be interesting to compare how they perform.
That was truly impressive and I think puts the nail in the coffin of 1.3GHz FPV. Good 1.3G equipment was expensive with the correct antennas probably more than a DJI setup costs now. Thanks for posting Adam, very informative 😃
still need the 1.3 for real long range, i mean guys pushing 100+kms
Thanks for your comment and for your support with the coffees, much appreciated 🤗 My fleet is currently 50/50 analogue and digital. I have to say I find myself flying DJI 😅95% of the time now, but I will still keep a couple on analogue for now for the really tough flights. At the moment all my new builds are digital, I can't see myself building any/many analogue planes going forward. Cheers
@@alerx94 Yeah for real range you still can't beat 1.3g. If only 1.3g had enough bandwidth suitable for a good digital feed 🥲
You'll enjoy the Funjet, it's one of my favorite, fast and stable, but better to use a catapult to launch!
Should get that ready for maiden soon 😅
Very impressive Adam. Watching home arrow, terrain, and altitude had more brain spinning, attempting to understand the LOS for VTx signal. Would be cool to see a elevation cross section of path flown, but that would be way too much effort. It did look like flew across a valley, with negative altitudes, but yet there still appeared hills between plane and home (at 6-9 km out).
Like the video drop-out effect at 3:52. The loss of colour, contrast is much preferable to frame freezing, or binary snow.
BTW: Think I recognize that bridge (2:53) from a previous video. ;)
Hey, yeah there are definitely times where LOS is broken and I’m surprised the video didn’t instantly drop. 6-9km there is a raised part of land between me and the plane so that’s where it gets quite tricky. Doing an elevation profile is actually really easy on google earth, just not easy to share in the comments here. DJI is definitely quite clever in the way it handles image break up as I always assumed when it first came out that the screen would just freeze up and drop a lot of frames. Yeah that bridge is the one that I passed under in my other video… I always wanted to attempt the pass under from the place I launched in this video but video gets really bad once you get down to river level at that point, even on 1.3g 😅 cheers
Impressive. I have gone 3 miles with 03, but here in Sedona all the iron oxide in the rocks messes with 5.8 pretty good.
Oh wow I never would have considered that. 1.3g impacted by this much? Cheers
@AdamGdoesFPV No. But who wants to run 1.3 when dji looks so good?
@@scottyh72 haha. I have to admit it’s rare I fly anything analogue now these days. Especially since WTFOS came along. Oh and the O3 😎
This swordfish is so good! I have about 10 flights with it, and can go as far as 4km, limited by the fact our club strip is surrounded by a lot of trees...must try on a more open area to test next time! too bad I lost a brand new Funjet flying FPV with a DJI O3, video transmission and GPS position had been lost at the same time, and no RTH...now I always fly with a Microtrak beacon!
SF is a nice plane. Sorry to hear of the Funjet loss, I have one I still need to maiden from a year ago :/
Hey my friend first of all , great video and also great flight , i was wondering how do you keep your RC Link so rock solid so far and low?
Thank you :) I'm not doing anything special with the control link... in fact my Swordfish has the worst setup for this as it's just using the tiny flexible antenna that comes for free with the TBS nano Rx and it's not positioned well. On my other planes I run Pro-Drone 868 tuned antennas for maximum performance. On the tx end it's just a Crossfire Micro Tx V2 with the standard antenna. Cheers
Impressive. I run a very similar setup all round on several planes. I haven't been able to do what you did though that could be due to the mountainous terrain I live in. I'd have to drive a fair way to find open and relatively flat terrain like yours. Regardless, still very impressive.
There are plenty of places near me that are flatter than this, it's quite hilly in this location. But yeah results were good. Thanks for watching and commenting 😃
Nice :)
Cheers mate 😁
As I understand it, the main merit here is the TrueRC X²-AIR antennas?
I also like to fly low and far, but after 1.5 km my bitrate begins to drop. If I buy patches with a gain of 10dbi, will I be able to fly in the same style, but over a shorter distance of 5-7 km?
Yes the key to flying further and lower is higher gain antennas (good quality ones at that). In theory yes if you get higher gain patches you can fly lower and further, but there are also other factors involved such as the terrain, your setup and noise in the area. If you break LOS you will lose your image fairly quickly with it being 5.8. Good luck :)
Amazing. The LEDs on the plane are stock? They look bright.
Thanks 😁 Yeah the LEDs on the wings are stock and come fully pre-installed and wired up. They are quite bright!
Hello Adam! I sold my Caddx camera because it was tedious to switch from the Caddx to the new O3 with better quality and stabilisation (necessary to re-bind with the Goggle V2 everytime). Can't wait to test the range with the O3 on my swordfish and the Crossfire as well, can't believe a so small crossfire nano rx can be trusted for long range, what power do you select on your Tx module? This is my first steps with Crossfire and INAV and my goal is to fly FPV with my EDF jets, switching from analogic to numeric!
Hi, yeah the switching is annoying. I got the Goggle 2 and don't have to do that anymore. Cf power output, just set it to Dynamic and it uses the power needed. Cheers
Lovely man! what antennas on the TX ? The beam width from the X Air is good enough to fly slightly away from you ? Do you keep your head pointed perfectly ?
Thanks 😃 the tx side just has the standard antennas, I think they are DJI. The beam on the XAir-2 are wide enough so I just aim my body in the direction of the flight path and fly. I'm sure my head isn't always pointed perfectly but if the video gets bad I sometimes just lift the goggles to check the direction I'm facing and re align.
@@AdamGdoesFPV : Thank you for the reply. Good to know. Does the OSD works well and does the OSD data record now? My dgi goggles is just sitting as i couldn't get OSD in my recordings..
Hiya buddy what are those nav lights? Just standard led? Or something else? This was a GREAT flight and tomorrow I'll maiden my first ever wing after literally thousands and fov quad flights....
Standard LED lights that come on the plane out the box. Good luck for your maiden and enjoy!
Adam do you have a copy of your inav setup to share? I have basically the same setup minus the dji cam. I have a problem with my setup where the plane chokes on up elevator and throttle.
Sent 👍🏻
Hi @AdamGdoesFPV, Are you using INAV with this sett up?
Hi, yes iNav 6.0 👍🏻
I would reeeally appreciate if you testet this route with the walksnail system or if you tell write me how well the walksnail system does at that low and far away flying in comparison to the dji system.
I searched the whole internet for someone doing a similar thing with Walksnail but I didnt find anything at all 😢.
From my point of view WS is terrible at this sort of flying compared to DJI. But I need to be honest and say I have only tried WS using the external Rx with stock antennas. That said, I can fly low out to 7km at a certain location with Omnis only on my DJI v2 goggles. At the same location with the stock WS setup I'm lucky to get 3km at high altitude. At 1km out WS gets pretty poor for me. Low altitude I have no chance. Maybe stock antennas are bad? I'm sure others have had way more success than me with WS... Don't take this as the definitive answer, but this is my experience which is also matched by my fling buddy who was all in on WS until he couldn't fly the routes I was. He switched to DJI and problem solved.
@@AdamGdoesFPV Ok, thanks for the long answer, I had that feeling too, that Walksnail doesnt perform even half as well but needed an confirmation.
It seems like Walksnail does as well as dji when its about penetration through a building but it performs way worse when there are some trees between the vtx and vrx.
Hello, what connectors in googles v2 do you have the patches connected to? Rx, RX or RX, TX? Thanks
Both top connectors so it’s rx & tx
That deep is impressive, I think I have to combine my AXII HD2 with these X2Air, the Omnis are useless at that distance anyway I think.
All directional antennas are annoying though as you’re constantly going into null zones when flying close by. The x2air get me to the max range limit with ease so I have no need for more 😃
50 mb or 25? Im really impressed air unit handle that, can you try with dji o3?
50mb. I’ll probably give the O3 a try. Have another on the way to go on my Albabird so I might send that
Wow...impressive! This is with stock air unit antenna at 4:40?
Yup, stock antennas on the air unit 🤘🏻
I watched the 1.3 vid at the time and didn't expect the DJI system to perform anything like as well. As an early adopter, I'm on V1 goggles and have an average of around 5-6km range when flying with a mate, also on V1, max was 5 miles/ 8km. I find the range is variable, but reconnects better on 25mbps. We should try more separation where we are seated. Mad Angler suggests the max range to be:
the O3 range limit on both V2 and goggles 2 is 23.4km.
DJI FPV AU and Vista range limit on V1 and V2 is 13km.
DJI FPV AU and Vista on Goggle 2 with the “O3” firmware the limit is 30km.
Be interesting to repeat with stock antennas to see what impact the True RC ones have. The suggestion from early testing some years back was not a huge amount.
Another good flight and video.
Hi Les, I was also impressed with how well DJI held out on this route. If you're flying with a buddy on DJI we find you get the best results if you lower the output power to 500 or 700 and give yourself good physical separation between each other. Using high power or standing close to each other produces worse results.
The stats you quote are interesting. I knew the first 2 but I had never heard of the 1st gen gear (AU and Vista) running on O3 FW. I have a set of goggle 2 but haven't had chance to fly with them yet, but looking forward to trying them out.
I feel like I did notice a good difference between stock antennas and Truerc in the early days, I flew a low route along the top of a hill just 3km away and on the stick antennas the image broke up a little but with the TrueRC it was clear the whole time.
Cheers
@@AdamGdoesFPV There were a lot of posts about range in the early days, but little now regarding the '03', just the Mad Angler comment that I've come across. We'll try the lower output you suggest - as it's wall to wall sunshine, we'll be out soon.
@@lesjack137 Enjoy. Weather is good In Ireland too at the moment but I'm currently on holiday in USA. It's really hot here but I have no planes with me to fly
If I may ask, are there any downsides about flashing the DJI FPV AU or Vista with ˋO3´ firmware? Will they still work with Goggles V2 and ˋtextfile power mod´?
Also I’m considering WTFOS for my Goggles V2 for the nice OSD… can I still use audience mode with that, so friends can share my feed on their Goggles V2 ?
@@TheAtariJoe If when you say the 'O3 FW' I assume you mean the FW that makes the old AU and Vista compatible with the Goggle 2. If so, then yes there are downsides. The vista and AU will no longer work with the goggle V2. The NACA power hack will no longer work but you can use the FCC hack which works on the O3. Also they will be stuck in low power mode until they receive an arming command from the FC (which is bad news of you're running a plane without an FC).
I wonder if the Ranger will be able to keep up?
Let’s find out some time soon 😎 can’t see why not
Great, what power was you on?
1200 🤪
@@AdamGdoesFPV hi, I would have been surprised if it had been less 😂. Wonderful setup and video 👏
Nice, was wondering: You do not fly 1.3 anymore?
I do have a couple of 1.3g planes still but for 95% of my flying DJI works perfectly. In fact it's allowing me to fly lower than I used to because I'm not worried so much about hitting a tree I didn't see until the last second. Next year might be my last season with 1.3g actually... we'll see.
Thanks, I never thought that 5.8 that can be even distributed by fog could compete with 1.3 . Will try my dji v1 with 4 directional antennas who knows maybe it can fly as low as 1.3 , never tried before.
is there a dji build video?
Sorry no but it’s fairly simple to install DJI as it’s just about connecting your AU to your FC.
Which place is this one.. I want to visit.🙂
Ireland 😁👍🏻
Your not flying low, your Video receiver is flying high instead ...🤔😳😏😏😏😀🇬🇧
Haha. A bit of both. Still breaking LOS in places so it did well
This video alone sold me on this plane! Question tho, did you laminate this plane or are you flying it out of the box ?
Didn't laminate. Got it out the box, added DJI AU, Crossfire nano and a lipo and it's ready to throw.
@@AdamGdoesFPV ok awesome thanks, any reason you prefer crossfire to ELRS? I used to run crossfire but I can’t ever find their stuff in stock
I thought you done really well considering you was probably going behind trees or obstacle’s. At that distance I am very surprised that your break up was so minimal. So well done and keep educating us all. 👍
Thanks 😎 Was definitely behind trees and other obstacles during parts of the flight so I was really impressed with how well it did. Very fe of my flights require 1.3g video these days 😳
@@AdamGdoesFPV ye Adam I have noticed that you are not doing as much on the 1.3 stuff. It is a bit of a faff setting it up compared to just switching your goggles on and throwing your plane in the air. Might get some of those True rc Directional Antennas that you used. I use the Chrystal patch but not as good as the results at low altitude you was getting.
Need small bobble head glued to nose cone
Haha :)