Ive worked with Chinese electric motors for over a decade for various projects, the money they save is mainly in the mosfetts in the controller, they have a tendancy to burn out when they overheat, and lasting a year is usually the case, you can avoid this by never running over 75% power, or adding additional cooling.
Instead of those lead acid anchors, you could add one LiFePO4 server rack battery (about 90 pounds, and $1450) that would run that motor for 3 to 5 times longer than those lead acid batteries and dropping those deep cycle batteries to 39 volts probably took 200 or more charge discharge cycles off the battery life. The LiFePO4 battery can be fully discharged (about 5100 watts) 5000 times, so no worries about them. Add a 48 VDC to 12 VDC converter and run the trolling motor and all your 12 VDC accessories and save another 40 pounds, and add a 12 volt ICECO cooler full of beer to make the fishing even better. All from one 90 pound 5.1 kilowatt battery that will last 10 to 15 years under the harshest use. Thanks for another great video!
LiFePO4 can be repurposed for many years to other "projects". Electric is not just about having one thing but having several things sharing a capable battery.
Soon as I heard "with gas prices through the roof" I thought... Yeah, but have you looked at 48V battery prices. Glad you covered every angle of this thing in the video. Hope this video makes you $300 richer to cover cost of the engine.
@@gregpeterman1102 meh...depends what you are doing. I got 6 years out of my last set of batteries (36volt) and don't cost by pennies to charge. Now gasser golf carts are often cheaper on the used market so for used the savings are out there.
Did you check to see if you can add gear oil to it? Sounds like its running dry. I just ordered the exact same motor, so I guess I'll see for my self. Also you can get a 20 AH 48v Lifepo4 battery for $300-350, that's what I'm using and it weighs 20lbs. I'm also going to see if adding a $25 voltage booster will increase top speed, and I can report back if you want.
@@Big_Friendly I haven't actually tried it, but It should get about the same runtime as an equivalent 60AH lead acid set up. And the voltage curve is much flatter and doesn't droop as much at high amp draw. That just means that the motor will stay at a higher rpm for longer compared to a lead acid set up. It should be a runtime of about an hour at full throttle because the stock controller outputs 18 amps. But you could probably fish all day with that because you aren't going to be using full throttle all the time. But I am going to cover my boats Bimini with about 900w of solar panels which would basically mean infinite runtime.
I made my own electric outboard. I took a 24v motor from a junk electric lawn mower ground the shaft square to fit the drive shaft of a 3.5 hp toshiba outboard lower unit that had a seized cylinder. I could run it on 12v or 24v with two batteries. Really kicked with 24v.
@@bassingaround3233 Ciao. Presta bene attenzione al motore che utilizzerai. Quello montato nel motore del video, è poco più di un giocattolo. Dimensiona i fili elettrici in maniera saggia, rinforza le saldature in stagno del controller e se è il caso comprane uno con un numero di mosfet maggiore , di buona qualità. Valuta anche l'opportunità di montare il motore elettrico orizzontalmente ( è nato per lavorare in questa condizione ) o di aggiungere un cuscinetto " assiale - radiale " nella parte inferiore del banco . Un motore a 48 volt potente 1500 W beve molta batteria ( in 35 minuti esaurisce la scorta prelevabile da una 20 ampere ) i calcoli descritti in qualche commento qui sopra sono molto generosi e fantasiosi , idem la copertura con pannelli fotovoltaici che occuperebbero un area realmente grande , per non parlare dell'intralcio che darebbero a chi cerca di pescare . Comunque buon lavoro e buon divertimento, sperimentare serve sempre per giungere ad una soliuzione soddisfacente 🙂
Boy, I felt bad for you guys out there. I've spent many miserable days out on the water when it was cold and windy. HOWEVER....you gave me some things to think about when I invest in my outboard. Thanks for the video, it made a big difference to me!
This is for the ID mycomputer above, Bait casters are targeting aggressive fish that strike out of pure instinct. Most fish in rivers and lakes stay close to shore and are not even found in 10 to 20 feet of water. I frequently pull ten and fifteen-pound stripers out of 3 to 4 feet of water. Catching even a 5-pound striped bass in 3 to 4 feet of water with dead bait will be almost impossible for any shore angler because most fish prefer live, active bait over a smelly piece of dead meat. Consider this: how many bait fish like bluegill and crappie live and hang out in 20 to 30 feet of water? None of them do. Additionally, both bluegill and sunfish that stay in shallow water are the primary meal for most fish. Even catfish live in shallow water, ask yourself this, why would a fish hand out in 20 to 40 feet of 30 degrees of water when they can hang in 55 degrees and warmer and eat well.
depends on the body of water i guess, i see baitfish 20 ft down with bigger fish hanging a foot below them. i look for the baitfish they could be anywhere depending on wind/tide/time of day cover and available algae etc to find fish. i catch more bass and smaller fish near shore, stripers are free roaming meaning they don’t look for cover or hang out, they chase bait 5 ft all the way down to 40 ft where k live.
The big thing is to manage expectations with these electric motors. A good rule of thumb is to cut its rated power in half. They now make a 60v 10hp version that I believe would give you similar speed to your 5hp gas motor.
My 36 v fortrex will push my basscat 5.5 mph. That’s fully loaded tournament boat. You might look at getting one of those used and you can cut down to 3 batteries on the boat . And it’s a heck of a lot quieter lol
I work on tornado sirens in tennessee, they are 48v DC, they have a battery backup that are 4 12v deep cycle marine batteries, they will run the siren and the rotator motor for about 20 minutes before the batteries either explode, or it catches it in time and shuts it down. The siren pulls about 190-200 amps.
Thanks for doing the video. I think with some shade tree mechanics you could add a solar charger with brackets, maybe review the quality of the wiring and contacts, put a different speed controller ect... 300 bucks I think it will be a good test motor for you. Honestly 40 mph winds though? That's tough for an ICE engine to plow water. We all know it's going electric soon, so we might as well get used to making the improvements that we would like to see as boaters. My opinion and 50 cents will just about get you a cup of coffee though. Take care.
"We all know it's going electric soon" ... its not going electric anwhere but the low end and the super high end.... midrange should probably go for opposed piston engines.
I have one of those and i ran it on a 48.1v nominal 90ah lithium ion battery that was a rack mount server rack pack that only cost $400. You wasted a ton of money for such crappy batteries. I also had a 14ft boat with me, my wife, and 3 kids for a total weight of over 1000lbs going 7.4mph using gps. Went around a lake for hours and barely used the pack.
I used to work at UPS and we processed many amazon boxed and i can tell you i we all sling them boxes man and go fast asf lol so yeah that is why its not from the manufacture
LifePO4 batteries are cheap on Amazon. I just bought two 100 amp hr batteries to run a 2,500 watt inverter for a cabin - and they were $275 to my door - for both. I have seen deals for $500 for 4 of them - which would give you 4.8 kilowatt hrs of power - a heck of a lot for that 48V motor.
promising stuff, as others have mentioned a shade/awning system with 100 watt solar panels facing up could be an interesting addition to a setup like for multi day trips but it would catch the wind more and i'm not sure if you get enough sun wear you are to make it a worthy investment could make a very intersting loadout for river trips though.
2:45. There is no reason to put the 5th battery. You can just pull 12 volts off one of the rear batteries and run a cable up. If you are a little more cleaver you can pull 12 volts off each by wiring them in parallel, (at least as far as the front motor is concerned). This will allow you to drain the batteries evenly, rather than making a weak link draining one using the front motor, that the main motor will suffer for later. That said. You should get a 24 volt trolling motor. Or even better if they make a 48 volt, that would be best. Every time you double the voltage of a motor, you cut the current required to operate it in 1/2. So that 12 volt trolling motor is using 4 x the energy as the rear motor relative to hp.
Ya made a wise decision to turn back captain. With 30 knot winds, and miles from the launch site, it sure would get pissy to row against the wind in that shallow vessel. It was fun to hear that motor screen!
I'm getting a different model for my rubber yacht. Lol Thank you for showing me this motor , because I was going to buy it but I also wanted a different one.
Great video! It really makes me think even more about how NOT green electric driven motors are. Four batteries! All that extra boat weight and capacity load loss, heavy metals, and acid toxins. Then there is loss of energy in cold or extreme heat. I can load my Yamaha 2.5 h.p. on my 17-foot square stern canoe with 37lbs of engine weight and about 2lbs of gasoline/a quarter of a gallon and run all day at seven miles an hour.
...rent a warehouse, seal it up nice and tight, and run that yamaha "all day" inside it, and then tell me how much "greener" gas motors are. 😂 12 volt lead acid batteries are the cheapest option, but they are by no means optimal.
That motor sounds like it is losing so much power through the gearbox. The gearbox sounds like it is dry? (no lube) Has anyone tried just using multiple trolling motors like the on some of the large petrol powerboats? Regards, Jas. VK4FJGS
Bought one of those for a canoe several years back . No not a hot rod but it'll yake you and a friend anywhere you want . 4 hours on a half gallon . I bought mine from sears for $90 back in the 90s . As far as the electric one the trolling motor on the front is a better motor.
Maybe you could mount a windmill on the front to charge your batteries. then put a hand crank on the fan and make an air boat out of it for safety in case the battery doesn't charge fast enough.
There are a lot of electric lakes in my area. I think if I were building an all electric boat to tournament fish I’d go with Elco. Bass Boats aren’t cheap.
Get yourself a a small trickle charge solar panel and when you're fishing and not moving around with the electric motor, it can be charging by the solar panel, good luck and have fun
Agm sealed lead acid were designed for boats and planes. So if they leak they dont melt through your hull. On a budget i would Build a lithium iron phosphate. No danger of fire like lithium ion. Get some battery sells and a bms. Jkbms is a recommend one. You will get alot more power. A 1/4 of the weight and space.
Looks like you’re at ladue reservoir in auburn, I’ve been there a few times just with a trolling motor. That electric motor you have would be too much of a hassle for me with the batteries needed. Cool video though
At first I was looking forward to adding something like this to my UltraSkiff…then after seeing the quality😬 I think I’ll stick to my 55lb thrust MinnKota to boost me around on it. Thanks for taking one for the team tho!😂
agree, I've had #36, #40, and #55 MinnKota's with a Kipawa prop on each, they're really all about the same, a little nicer with the Kipawa. flee-bahay'd DC electronic speed controllers, two wired parallel was plenty of power to the motor and gave *far* more range than original resistor coil setups they came with, had F-N-R switch and potentiometer to control the speed. a scratch built 16ft low drag displacement hull did an honest 5 mph cruising speed with them, basically an over-sized kayak but looking like a gentlemen's runabout.
HULL SPEED of the jon boat? The designed hull speed of THAT boat will make a bigger difference than the additional batteries or other weight. Boat speed and motor load makes a huge difference in battery life. It is NOT your test parameters but; you could be just a bit more gentle and get a lot more battery life. I think hull speed is listed on the boat data plate. As you approach or exceed that speed power, requirements go up quickly. Plaining hulls are different though.
😎well, so cheap but unexpected running long time ! may be need to water cooler in summer day ! by the way, the motor may not used of luminous battery !
what does the green CCS button do / mean? I have the 3HP model that has a similar button. The 3HP model actually worked seamlessly with basically no setup, out of the box working great
*I hate to tell you this but 4 fully charged 12 volt battery's in series should equal 58.6 Volts at peak charge. 50 volts is 55% dead already. Also this is a 1200W rated motor so its only about 1.75 HP (745 W = Per every 1 HP is the engineering math) If you ran it at 50V you only had about 850 Watts or just over 1 HP*
Is this on Pymatuning? I have never been on the water but it looks like the causeway in the background. I have been over that 100s of times. And I see you have Ohio plates. O boat about 10 miles from Pymatuning on Conneaut Lake in PA.
i like the concept for the price, but what scares me in the south with the heat we have and that set up would cook. ventalation is key even with just a cheap computer fan on the amp. i have 4 25 watt solar panels and a 100 watt pannel. i think a 25 would give you enough charge to help from keeping you going dead but wont come close to topping off unless you were sitting still for over an hour. it sounds like something fun to test out. yeah.. buying that motor sounds risky af, but sometimes you just gotta have fun and have a trolling motor and battery back up and a paddle and dont be up stream incase it dies. down stream and you are gonna have a bad day/night. i really enjoyed the video though and it got me excited for the concept even though for durablity and longevity... i would think two really strong trolling motors would come pretty close of that range of speed and would be way safer.
Did it come with Manufacturer Origin Statement and Bill of Sale when you bought it? In Texas, we require those to title the motor and all motors must be titled or they will take your motor. Just wondering. Thanks!
That is not the law of Texas... Texas requires any boat that has a motor to be registered. The motor itself does not need registration. You can switch different motors onto a boat that is registered without consequence.
As someone who owns a sick electric boat these hangkais are not as powerful as they say on the back, the '4hp' model actually only consumes about 1.2kw if i can remember properly, which is about 1.6hp. Still a good deal if you get it from china and not amazon but nonetheless its not '4hp', neither is the '5hp' model or the '8hp' motor. if you want to replace a small gas engine on a budget i cant recommend a hangkai more.
I bet they used crocodile connections on the battery which gives huge voltage and performance drop. Atleast use skrew on terminals on the battery and 2 batteries in parallell to give the poor motor a proper test. Most of these motors come without gear oil in the propeller housing btw..
How much did you spend on the batteries.? If I could find some cheaper batteries I guess it would be worth keeping but it's a lot of weight in the back of my sailboat too
Buy a MK 106 Kayak, its top speed is about 4 and the battery will last all day..and its super easy to fish out of..I have a nice Humminbird fish finder. Also I use all lithium batteries.
I think it's a good value were I live we have some good water shed lakes with decent fishing but you can't use a gasoline engine on them there prohibited but the best fishing spots are a good ways from where you can put in.
Lifepo4 batteries are 100$/kwh, three times cheaper than lead deep cycle. Just buy 75ah server cells for about 25$ each, you need 14 of those so that's 350 dollars for 10 years of use
I have an ancient mercury troller hooked to a 57# marine batt that moves my 10’ JonB rigged out with 2-150+ lb men, and all of our equipment better and faster than that thing could ever hope for.
Going “electric” with lead acid or even AGM batteries is just the completely wrong way - the only way which makes sense is using LiFePo4 batteries, which give you much more “bang for the buck” at much lighter weight. Also, what do you expect from a motor costing ~ $300.00 ? Look at E-Propulsion or Torquedo if you want to save money and be happy and satisfied with the outcome.
to expensive , i want too build a 4 or 5 meter cheap polyester boat with electrick outboard . Torquedo costs 2300 euro's, thats more then my budget complete for boat and engine.
@@remcovanderkolk1969 E-Propulsion is less expensive than Torquedo, but same quality… trying to spending less usually means spending more at the end, because you will not be happy, so you continue to replace until you get what really works, loosing all the money for the „cheap“ trial alternatives.
It looks as the much better build 30- 40 lb. thrust electric motor from Endura Minn Kota may provide you the same speed, but with four batteries may run almost forever.
Ive worked with Chinese electric motors for over a decade for various projects, the money they save is mainly in the mosfetts in the controller, they have a tendancy to burn out when they overheat, and lasting a year is usually the case, you can avoid this by never running over 75% power, or adding additional cooling.
Thanks. VERY helpful.
My Bafang bbshd I’ve had for a year has been awesome. I’m wondering if u can use my 52v batteries for an outboard also. I’m I’ve got 2 at 24ah each
@@cameronharris2862 I've seen salt water outboard E-motors from 3-6 HP for between £700 - £7000, most would happily run off that battery setup.
Instead of those lead acid anchors, you could add one LiFePO4 server rack battery (about 90 pounds, and $1450) that would run that motor for 3 to 5 times longer than those lead acid batteries and dropping those deep cycle batteries to 39 volts probably took 200 or more charge discharge cycles off the battery life. The LiFePO4 battery can be fully discharged (about 5100 watts) 5000 times, so no worries about them. Add a 48 VDC to 12 VDC converter and run the trolling motor and all your 12 VDC accessories and save another 40 pounds, and add a 12 volt ICECO cooler full of beer to make the fishing even better. All from one 90 pound 5.1 kilowatt battery that will last 10 to 15 years under the harshest use. Thanks for another great video!
🤣🤣🤣 $280 + $1450 + $... 🤣🤣🤣 + Life at the outlet ... = 6:34 🤣🤣🤣
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LiFePO4 can be repurposed for many years to other "projects". Electric is not just about having one thing but having several things sharing a capable battery.
Soon as I heard "with gas prices through the roof" I thought... Yeah, but have you looked at 48V battery prices. Glad you covered every angle of this thing in the video. Hope this video makes you $300 richer to cover cost of the engine.
Electric golf cars cost more to operate than gasoline powered golf cars.
@@gregpeterman1102 breathing gasoline costs more in hospital fees on a long run, you forgot to put that into account.
Lol you can buy a 48v 14ah battery right now for $75. Used scooter batteries are dirt cheap .
Didn’t pay anything for the engine…
@@gregpeterman1102 meh...depends what you are doing. I got 6 years out of my last set of batteries (36volt) and don't cost by pennies to charge. Now gasser golf carts are often cheaper on the used market so for used the savings are out there.
Did you check to see if you can add gear oil to it? Sounds like its running dry. I just ordered the exact same motor, so I guess I'll see for my self. Also you can get a 20 AH 48v Lifepo4 battery for $300-350, that's what I'm using and it weighs 20lbs. I'm also going to see if adding a $25 voltage booster will increase top speed, and I can report back if you want.
Please... I've put one on my boat
Did you break it or something? We need an update
Not sure if gear lube is an option. Haven’t been home in quite a while. If it’s an option your prob right! Def sounds dry haha
So how much run time are you getting with that 20ah battery? Do you carry a few of them as backups?
@@Big_Friendly I haven't actually tried it, but It should get about the same runtime as an equivalent 60AH lead acid set up. And the voltage curve is much flatter and doesn't droop as much at high amp draw. That just means that the motor will stay at a higher rpm for longer compared to a lead acid set up. It should be a runtime of about an hour at full throttle because the stock controller outputs 18 amps. But you could probably fish all day with that because you aren't going to be using full throttle all the time. But I am going to cover my boats Bimini with about 900w of solar panels which would basically mean infinite runtime.
I made my own electric outboard. I took a 24v motor from a junk electric lawn mower ground the shaft square to fit the drive shaft of a 3.5 hp toshiba outboard lower unit that had a seized cylinder. I could run it on 12v or 24v with two batteries. Really kicked with 24v.
thank for the idea y will try it my self on a trophy bass boat , can't afford a gas powered outboard any more
@@bassingaround3233 Ciao. Presta bene attenzione al motore che utilizzerai. Quello montato nel motore del video, è poco più di un giocattolo. Dimensiona i fili elettrici in maniera saggia, rinforza le saldature in stagno del controller e se è il caso comprane uno con un numero di mosfet maggiore , di buona qualità. Valuta anche l'opportunità di montare il motore elettrico orizzontalmente ( è nato per lavorare in questa condizione ) o di aggiungere un cuscinetto " assiale - radiale " nella parte inferiore del banco . Un motore a 48 volt potente 1500 W beve molta batteria ( in 35 minuti esaurisce la scorta prelevabile da una 20 ampere ) i calcoli descritti in qualche commento qui sopra sono molto generosi e fantasiosi , idem la copertura con pannelli fotovoltaici che occuperebbero un area realmente grande , per non parlare dell'intralcio che darebbero a chi cerca di pescare . Comunque buon lavoro e buon divertimento, sperimentare serve sempre per giungere ad una soliuzione soddisfacente 🙂
So awesome
I would love if you could explain more. I have an electric plug in mower and my dog ate the cable. I'd love to repurpose the motor for this
@@kameya87 Well ok what were you thinking of making with it?
“This thing rips” ***Goes slow af** 😂😂
Boy, I felt bad for you guys out there. I've spent many miserable days out on the water when it was cold and windy. HOWEVER....you gave me some things to think about when I invest in my outboard. Thanks for the video, it made a big difference to me!
Can yuo go out when the weather is better. I don’t want to be in the cold and wind Best wishes.
You could build your own Lithium battery packs for much cheaper. There's videos on youtube that show you how.
Since it's electric, you could probably run a dual motor setup for more power and it would be less stress on one motor.
Why do people in boats cast as close to the shore as they can, and people on shore cast out as far as they can?
Dude you’re blowing my mind but most shores fished from boats can’t be accessed by land…which sounds ludicrous
This is for the ID mycomputer above, Bait casters are targeting aggressive fish that strike out of pure instinct. Most fish in rivers and lakes stay close to shore and are not even found in 10 to 20 feet of water. I frequently pull ten and fifteen-pound stripers out of 3 to 4 feet of water. Catching even a 5-pound striped bass in 3 to 4 feet of water with dead bait will be almost impossible for any shore angler because most fish prefer live, active bait over a smelly piece of dead meat. Consider this: how many bait fish like bluegill and crappie live and hang out in 20 to 30 feet of water? None of them do. Additionally, both bluegill and sunfish that stay in shallow water are the primary meal for most fish. Even catfish live in shallow water, ask yourself this, why would a fish hand out in 20 to 40 feet of 30 degrees of water when they can hang in 55 degrees and warmer and eat well.
depends on the body of water i guess, i see baitfish 20 ft down with bigger fish hanging a foot below them. i look for the baitfish they could be anywhere depending on wind/tide/time of day cover and available algae etc to find fish. i catch more bass and smaller fish near shore, stripers are free roaming meaning they don’t look for cover or hang out, they chase bait 5 ft all the way down to 40 ft where k live.
@@Glennmc7 except for pike. You find them by trolling deep.
Metal frame, 4 solar panels. Gives you shade, and charges batteries as you chill. Yes it only leaves side casting... but hey... no gasoline.
Yowza!
@@Shmerpy Glad you like the idea.
Do you guys allways run your outboardmotors without oil in the lower unit gear?
Get a solar setup on the back so while you stop to fish the batteries can charge up alittle.
The big thing is to manage expectations with these electric motors. A good rule of thumb is to cut its rated power in half. They now make a 60v 10hp version that I believe would give you similar speed to your 5hp gas motor.
My 36 v fortrex will push my basscat 5.5 mph. That’s fully loaded tournament boat. You might look at getting one of those used and you can cut down to 3 batteries on the boat . And it’s a heck of a lot quieter lol
Yeah this thing sounds horrible. Everyone will yell at you for scaring the fish lol
I work on tornado sirens in tennessee, they are 48v DC, they have a battery backup that are 4 12v deep cycle marine batteries, they will run the siren and the rotator motor for about 20 minutes before the batteries either explode, or it catches it in time and shuts it down. The siren pulls about 190-200 amps.
Thanks for doing the video. I think with some shade tree mechanics you could add a solar charger with brackets, maybe review the quality of the wiring and contacts, put a different speed controller ect...
300 bucks I think it will be a good test motor for you. Honestly 40 mph winds though? That's tough for an ICE engine to plow water.
We all know it's going electric soon, so we might as well get used to making the improvements that we would like to see as boaters. My opinion and 50 cents will just about get you a cup of coffee though. Take care.
"We all know it's going electric soon" ... its not going electric anwhere but the low end and the super high end.... midrange should probably go for opposed piston engines.
Man !!!! You made me laugh,I think the comment “Something is Burning “” I thought of the movie “Blind Fury “”
IT MUST BE LOVE 💕
I have one of those and i ran it on a 48.1v nominal 90ah lithium ion battery that was a rack mount server rack pack that only cost $400. You wasted a ton of money for such crappy batteries. I also had a 14ft boat with me, my wife, and 3 kids for a total weight of over 1000lbs going 7.4mph using gps. Went around a lake for hours and barely used the pack.
I used to work at UPS and we processed many amazon boxed and i can tell you i we all sling them boxes man and go fast asf lol so yeah that is why its not from the manufacture
Isnt this the same as a trolling motor? Except faster? Why would it need engine oil? Does it have pistons?
i wonder how this would work with a 48v ebike battery
electric trolling motor probably better, I put a solar Panel on boat with one Deep cycle 100 ampere hour battery never ran out of power all day
I find these electric outboards interesting, so it’s cool to see one in action. Guess we’ll see where they go in the future. Nice video!
Imagine one with a tesla motor running it.
@@getchasome6230 Just a matter of time I bet, but it’ll be on a Tesla boat that only powers up on Tesla chargers! Lol
@@NWPA_Outdoors Yup. You could do a jet boat type setup with the motors out of a tesla plaid running the turbines.
@@getchasome6230 right, and imagine it breaking down, and nobody knows how to fix it.
@@gregpeterman1102 I mean it'd be a custom build so whomever built it (the guy who has it most likely) will fix it. Not that complicated
I think with a little tweaking and testing different batteries...maybe. Definitely worth $280 as an experiment.
LifePO4 batteries are cheap on Amazon. I just bought two 100 amp hr batteries to run a 2,500 watt inverter for a cabin - and they were $275 to my door - for both. I have seen deals for $500 for 4 of them - which would give you 4.8 kilowatt hrs of power - a heck of a lot for that 48V motor.
promising stuff, as others have mentioned a shade/awning system with 100 watt solar panels facing up could be an interesting addition to a setup like for multi day trips but it would catch the wind more and i'm not sure if you get enough sun wear you are to make it a worthy investment could make a very intersting loadout for river trips though.
2:45. There is no reason to put the 5th battery. You can just pull 12 volts off one of the rear batteries and run a cable up. If you are a little more cleaver you can pull 12 volts off each by wiring them in parallel, (at least as far as the front motor is concerned). This will allow you to drain the batteries evenly, rather than making a weak link draining one using the front motor, that the main motor will suffer for later.
That said. You should get a 24 volt trolling motor. Or even better if they make a 48 volt, that would be best. Every time you double the voltage of a motor, you cut the current required to operate it in 1/2. So that 12 volt trolling motor is using 4 x the energy as the rear motor relative to hp.
Ya made a wise decision to turn back captain. With 30 knot winds, and miles from the launch site, it sure would get pissy to row against the wind in that shallow vessel. It was fun to hear that motor screen!
I'm getting a different model for my rubber yacht. Lol
Thank you for showing me this motor , because I was going to buy it but I also wanted a different one.
Great video! It really makes me think even more about how NOT green electric driven motors are. Four batteries! All that extra boat weight and capacity load loss, heavy metals, and acid toxins. Then there is loss of energy in cold or extreme heat. I can load my Yamaha 2.5 h.p. on my 17-foot square stern canoe with 37lbs of engine weight and about 2lbs of gasoline/a quarter of a gallon and run all day at seven miles an hour.
...rent a warehouse, seal it up nice and tight, and run that yamaha "all day" inside it, and then tell me how much "greener" gas motors are. 😂
12 volt lead acid batteries are the cheapest option, but they are by no means optimal.
That motor sounds like it is losing so much power through the gearbox.
The gearbox sounds like it is dry? (no lube)
Has anyone tried just using multiple trolling motors like the on some of the large petrol powerboats?
Regards, Jas.
VK4FJGS
Bought one of those for a canoe several years back . No not a hot rod but it'll yake you and a friend anywhere you want . 4 hours on a half gallon . I bought mine from sears for $90 back in the 90s .
As far as the electric one the trolling motor on the front is a better motor.
May be good for a 10ft flat bottom boat to do some magnet fishing. I have 24v kobalt batteries, could I use two of those?
Maybe you could mount a windmill on the front to charge your batteries. then put a hand crank on the fan and make an air boat out of it for safety in case the battery doesn't charge fast enough.
Some pros use Haige trolling mortar and its 160lb. It is about 6 horse power. And put 110 mortar guide at front.
There are a lot of electric lakes in my area. I think if I were building an all electric boat to tournament fish I’d go with Elco. Bass Boats aren’t cheap.
Huge difference with Lifpo4 batteries. Both in performance and weight.
Get yourself a a small trickle charge solar panel and when you're fishing and not moving around with the electric motor, it can be charging by the solar panel, good luck and have fun
Was the motor cavitation plate on the motor even with the bottom of the boat? Too high or too low will effect the speed incredibly.
What speed did you reach with the hangkai motor? (with your actual rig...)
As seldom as I would actually go boating, an electric is really looking good to me just for the reduced maintenance.
Also not polluting the water. Good for you.
I wonder was is the downside for electric motor and how to repair. Best wishes.
I'm glad they gave the money back. That thing is loud, heavy, slow and probably isn't built to last
Agm sealed lead acid were designed for boats and planes. So if they leak they dont melt through your hull.
On a budget i would
Build a lithium iron phosphate. No danger of fire like lithium ion. Get some battery sells and a bms. Jkbms is a recommend one. You will get alot more power. A 1/4 of the weight and space.
If you could add a switch for fwd and reverse and make that make less noise. Yes and go lip04 thanks
Looks like you’re at ladue reservoir in auburn, I’ve been there a few times just with a trolling motor. That electric motor you have would be too much of a hassle for me with the batteries needed. Cool video though
Nice video. Where you from man? Trying to figure out your accent. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Good test idea! Now I know what I wanted to know so my decision is made.
At first I was looking forward to adding something like this to my UltraSkiff…then after seeing the quality😬
I think I’ll stick to my 55lb thrust MinnKota to boost me around on it. Thanks for taking one for the team tho!😂
I have a Minn-Kota 55 lb as well. Works good enough for me. I'll stick with mine as well...
agree, I've had #36, #40, and #55 MinnKota's with a Kipawa prop on each, they're really all about the same, a little nicer with the Kipawa. flee-bahay'd DC electronic speed controllers, two wired parallel was plenty of power to the motor and gave *far* more range than original resistor coil setups they came with, had F-N-R switch and potentiometer to control the speed.
a scratch built 16ft low drag displacement hull did an honest 5 mph cruising speed with them, basically an over-sized kayak but looking like a gentlemen's runabout.
lil prideful? Shouldn't be when noone cares what kind of motor you have also a lot of people richer than you are have a lot more than you do
Does these hangki electric outboards, jet or prop have reverse?
This video made me subscribe!More unboxing vids please!😃
HULL SPEED of the jon boat?
The designed hull speed of THAT boat will make a bigger difference than the additional batteries or other weight.
Boat speed and motor load makes a huge difference in battery life. It is NOT your test parameters but; you could be just a bit more gentle and get a lot more battery life.
I think hull speed is listed on the boat data plate. As you approach or exceed that speed power, requirements go up quickly. Plaining hulls are different though.
😎well, so cheap but unexpected running long time ! may be need to water cooler in summer day ! by the way, the motor may not used of luminous battery !
what does the green CCS button do / mean? I have the 3HP model that has a similar button. The 3HP model actually worked seamlessly with basically no setup, out of the box working great
*I hate to tell you this but 4 fully charged 12 volt battery's in series should equal 58.6 Volts at peak charge. 50 volts is 55% dead already. Also this is a 1200W rated motor so its only about 1.75 HP (745 W = Per every 1 HP is the engineering math) If you ran it at 50V you only had about 850 Watts or just over 1 HP*
Is this on Pymatuning? I have never been on the water but it looks like the causeway in the background. I have been over that 100s of times. And I see you have Ohio plates. O boat about 10 miles from Pymatuning on Conneaut Lake in PA.
i like the concept for the price, but what scares me in the south with the heat we have and that set up would cook. ventalation is key even with just a cheap computer fan on the amp. i have 4 25 watt solar panels and a 100 watt pannel. i think a 25 would give you enough charge to help from keeping you going dead but wont come close to topping off unless you were sitting still for over an hour. it sounds like something fun to test out. yeah.. buying that motor sounds risky af, but sometimes you just gotta have fun and have a trolling motor and battery back up and a paddle and dont be up stream incase it dies. down stream and you are gonna have a bad day/night. i really enjoyed the video though and it got me excited for the concept even though for durablity and longevity... i would think two really strong trolling motors would come pretty close of that range of speed and would be way safer.
12v lithium motorcycle batteries are like 35 bucks a pop. I use one in my Harley. Weighs ounces
Did it come with Manufacturer Origin Statement and Bill of Sale when you bought it? In Texas, we require those to title the motor and all motors must be titled or they will take your motor. Just wondering. Thanks!
That is not the law of Texas... Texas requires any boat that has a motor to be registered. The motor itself does not need registration. You can switch different motors onto a boat that is registered without consequence.
My advice, save up and by a suzuki or a tohatsu. 5 year warranty and much simpler to find replacement parts.
As someone who owns a sick electric boat these hangkais are not as powerful as they say on the back, the '4hp' model actually only consumes about 1.2kw if i can remember properly, which is about 1.6hp. Still a good deal if you get it from china and not amazon but nonetheless its not '4hp', neither is the '5hp' model or the '8hp' motor. if you want to replace a small gas engine on a budget i cant recommend a hangkai more.
I am so glad to gays enter into the world of motor reviews on youtube!! Way to go guys.....
Two GAYS ? AHHAAHAHA
Motor seems good value, but lugging 4 batteries, for me, NADA, LOL
He doesn't need to lug them. Lifepo4 batteries are 3 times cheaper and 4 times lighter that lead
I bet they used crocodile connections on the battery which gives huge voltage and performance drop. Atleast use skrew on terminals on the battery and 2 batteries in parallell to give the poor motor a proper test. Most of these motors come without gear oil in the propeller housing btw..
did it come with a title or a MCO manufacture certificate of origin? or MSO manufacture statement of origin? In texas we need it for titling purposes.
Hey Tightlines, love your content, keep up the good work. I subscribed to your channel!
Thankyou!
Some small motors don't have reverse, you have to turn it 180 degree to reverse.
Yeah but this didn’t even have the provision to do that cos it’s an electric motor and wires will get caught up and wrapped. What a waste of resources
So, what was the total running time? What do you think you would call the total if you ran it with less wind? How many hours, or hour?
I’d say 1.5 - 2 max
@@TightlineTV Thats not bad . with lead acid batteries and the weight it was pushing .
Nice coffee grinder dude!!
Are you still happy with your outboards? I guess it has been more than a year now, would you recommend us to purchase the same outboards? Thnx alot..
I check the reviews it suck like 2 starts lol, it very tempting it so cheap but don't expect this thing to last more then a years if not fews months.
I'd add a few things. Voltage regulator, battery meter, small generator. It might work.
Lifepo4 from battery hookup like headway.. you can build a lithium battery for a couple hundred bucks
Love your vids man
Thanks man!
Price = Quality..... Thanks for the video 👍 one mistake less.
If you’re still looking for batteries, could check out the 48v ebike batteries.
How much did you spend on the batteries.? If I could find some cheaper batteries I guess it would be worth keeping but it's a lot of weight in the back of my sailboat too
Buy a MK 106 Kayak, its top speed is about 4 and the battery will last all day..and its super easy to fish out of..I have a nice Humminbird fish finder. Also I use all lithium batteries.
Can still your electric outboard to
a petrol generator
Like Inspector Harry Callahan once said “A MAN HAS GOT TO KNOW HIS Limitations “ 😎
Can u use 2 @ the same time ?
I think it's a good value were I live we have some good water shed lakes with decent fishing but you can't use a gasoline engine on them there prohibited but the best fishing spots are a good ways from where you can put in.
They don't ship from china with gear oil. I know from experience with hankai. You could take a small generator with you and charge batteries
Why was it dying if u had it hooked to the batteries?
Lifepo4 batteries are 100$/kwh, three times cheaper than lead deep cycle. Just buy 75ah server cells for about 25$ each, you need 14 of those so that's 350 dollars for 10 years of use
That’s ladue or la-dont I should say I live right there By the lake I was watching electric outboard motors very cool
Did you ever think about switching out for high-performance quiet propeller
What do u consider Rips cause I just didn't see that
You might check the lower end for oil they might have empty it to ship it
I've only had it out once so far but it handled well stability was okay but I need more time
Sounds pretty loud. Do you have any updates since this April post?
The batterys turn me off to it..If could run on 1 12volt Ibe interested ..Thanks for video
electric motor or not damn i need a john boat like yours in mediterrean for shore fishing.
I have an ancient mercury troller hooked to a 57# marine batt that moves my 10’ JonB rigged out with 2-150+ lb men, and all of our equipment better and faster than that thing could ever hope for.
Like 100 dollars for each battery so that is 400 more added to use that electric motor.
I'm looking into an electric motor myself. Hard to pick one when most of them have issues already
Check out Elco Motors! I have their 14hp tiller, it's been flawless!
Going “electric” with lead acid or even AGM batteries is just the completely wrong way - the only way which makes sense is using LiFePo4 batteries, which give you much more “bang for the buck” at much lighter weight. Also, what do you expect from a motor costing ~ $300.00 ? Look at E-Propulsion or Torquedo if you want to save money and be happy and satisfied with the outcome.
to expensive , i want too build a 4 or 5 meter cheap polyester boat with electrick outboard .
Torquedo costs 2300 euro's, thats more then my budget complete for boat and engine.
@@remcovanderkolk1969 E-Propulsion is less expensive than Torquedo, but same quality… trying to spending less usually means spending more at the end, because you will not be happy, so you continue to replace until you get what really works, loosing all the money for the „cheap“ trial alternatives.
Elco is another great one!
It looks as the much better build 30- 40 lb. thrust electric motor from Endura Minn Kota may provide you the same speed, but with four batteries may run almost forever.
I have to ask, what's the advantage of the electric outboard vs just using a larger trolling motor?
one is made for going slow and steady the other is made to send you?
@@SD-ft6gs 5 miles an hour is pretty slow, I don't think trolling motor will be any slower
Where is the link to motor?