Look, i have 6 yamabisi motors. I took a calculated risk buying, but it paid off. I haven't had any major issues. I use 2 in the Philippines & 4 in the US. Just take care of them like you would harbor freight tools & you'll be ok. I also have hangkai & aiqida outboards. All do good as long as you take care of them.
As somebody who has bought chinese engine devices a few times (generator, trimmer, chainsaw, rototillor) because they are ridiculously cheap, I say it will last for 1 year before needing to be fixed, and then will require to be fixed every 2nd or 3rd time afterwards.
i have a few Chinese engine devices that are quite reliable(motorcyle,chainsaw), i find they can be pretty good when they just clone a known good engine, brand new engine design, yea good luck
@@BoatBustersi saw how you slipped "boat ramp street cred" in there, that was actually a comment i left on a hangkai review on youtube, kinda feel like everyones lookin at ya 🤨
Most people don't realize it but Yamaha built the first 4 stroke engines for Mercury. I owned a Mercury Big foot 50 HP 4 stroke that was built by Yamaha. As I recall, I bought it in the early 2000's. I have a Merc 60 HP on my latest boat and my mechanic says most of the parts are interchangeable with the Yamaha 40-75 hp.
Almost Japanese 4 stroke.. for that price and shipping is awesome. 2 things to help u.. 1.. add a small movable wood block between mounting bracket/stern... 2. Just shorten the gas line. Love all those cool rod holders built in!
The issue is whether or not it simply dies in less than a year. A lot of Chinese knock offs look decent at first glance but then they die prematurely. I would love to see a follow up a year from now.
Same I have literally no manual skills and have trouble with a tin opener 😂but there’s something quite calming and satisfying watching this kind of stuff . I guess maybe it’s just watching masculinity at its best,a kind of Tim Walz vibe maybe?
I have a Chinese 15hp Sail brand 2 stroke OB (Souzhu Sail Motor Co) which is now about 9 yrs old. It's a copy of the Yamaha from the late 70s to 80s. Lots of parts (coils etc) are interchangeable and the motors look identical (looking like doesn't mean much with Chinese stuff) I have seen one apart and the cranks/rods etc look substantial and well made. Only problem with these Chinese Motors is the material in the castings. It is not marine grade alloy apparently. so they are best used in fresh water. I had the head off my 15hp late last year to inspect the water galleries, and they were full of corrosion, even though the motor was flushed religiously. When it was all scrubbed out, it didn't appear to be the block corroding badly, more a collection from all round the motor. New head gasket and water pump and it was away again with a few pulls. The motor is run in salt water and has done a couple of 3/4 throttle runs of 22km up the coast and back with no problems. Changed the lower end oil after about 6hrs of running and it had quite a bit of metal in it, (probably not the best hardened gears) but next time will see if it continues shedding metal. For NZD $1500 (new Yamaha was around $3000) it's been a really good motor, and pushes a 12ft ply dinghy at 20 knots, which is pretty much the same as the original Yamaha, Merc, Evinrude etc 15s will do on a 12 ft dinghy. Motor is extremely economical as well. Pulled it out the other day to give it a run after about 5 months of sitting, and it started with about 5 pulls, starts 1st pop when hot. You can buy 2 of these Chinese motors for the price of one genuine model. Most smaller outboards - Merc, Yamaha, Suzuki etc are (or were) made in China anyhow.
I used to import Yamabisi into Vancouver Canada.We never had any issues with these engines.The import rules changed where they needed EPA a few years back so we could no longer import them. I think the same rules for EPA also apply to the USA.Maybe they now have EPA approval which would be great as the engines are first rate.
@@ct1762 I use to live in CA and Yamahas would run fine for a little while and then start to bog out and give problems. They just needed slightly bigger jets. They just needed to pass the emissions test before they were allowed to be imported. Idling is easy, notice how it wouldn’t rev up and lacked power and it wasn’t just the hose, I think they had a tank venting problem.
Where in the world do you get parts for this thing? Mail order to China? Seriously I think it would make more sense to buy a name brand so you can get parts over the counter.
My 9.9 mercury outboard is identical to a yamaha and a tohatsu.These Chinese clones are really dialed in.Have a predator generator that's 15 years old and gets about 50-60 hrs of use a year during storm's and for $400 it has never let me down.The rumor is that tohatsu makes every ones small outboard engines.
i mean if you are going to make a review and then say THIS THING IS JUNK BECAUSE IT BROKE AFTER 15 MIN, and then the footage is you starting it up first time and instantly keeping it full throttle for 15 min everyone wil be saying yeah what did you expect? Guy gives the yamabisi a fair chance as it should be.
Despite their actual wealth and development, China and the companies shipping out of the country have been using a shipping loophole with worldwide mail services and shipping companies for years as they designate themselves a 'developing country', so worldwide they ship anything and everything almost for free, so the deal they gave him on the freight charges cost them nothing and the $500 you mentioned is just a way to make more money off of the sale. Plus they own/operate a lot of the cargo ships. Never pay a large shipping cost out of China as it's a fake additional charge.
I order from dealer in China w/no problem, & I've used yamaha dealer in US 2 get replacement parts. I have 6 yamabisi 2 & 4 stroke ranging from 6-20hp.
My first Video here…I like to see reviews from the places you can save money but…most people are scared to try… Your honest up from info was key…. Sounds more like a 5.5 or 6 motor but…for the money this thing is a great value
ONE CONSIDERATION ON FUEL HOSE SIZE IS THAT AN 4 CYCLE ENGINE USES LESS FUEL THAN AN 2 STROKER! THEREFORE THE FUEL DELIVERY ABILITIES ARE UP TO THE JOB !
I had a Parsun 15hp 2 stroke given to me. I got it running with parts from a yamaha 15hp i had. It was identical but looked like it had been through hell. It ran great and my buddy still uses it. The Yamabisi carb looks different than the yamaha 4 stroke i have. Looking forward to seeing whats innerchangable in the next video. -Dan from the Virgin Islands.
@@brianblizzard7591 it is a long shaft but that boat does take a long shaft. I think I’m missing some sort of air adjustment or something honestly. I’ll figure it out !!
@@BoatBusters Check that the carb at full throttle is actually wide open. Some of the carbs have a stop before wide open, to lower hp a little. If it isn't wide open, cut the stop off, and you'll have a lot more top end. It looked like it was missing the last 1/4 throttle on your speed run. Or, buy a 25 hp ... heh heh.
common type of issue and good review. My big welder was the same way. It came with an absolutely horrible ground cable and clamp but the welder itself is absolutely fine. So I put my own custom made ground cable on and now I’m good to go.
Definitely try that outboard with a standard fuel hose, that tiny diameter could also limit full throttle as not delivering enough fuel. Looks pretty decent for that money.
You really need to break in the rings with "Real" oil. I don't understand why a new , or rebuilt engine will not break in the rings ,n cylinder walls with synthetic. Possibly the outboard oil is different. But the synthetic will make an engine last much longer while using it after first break in with dinosaur guts. Like the Clonda clone Predator engines. I'll burn a couple of tanks of gas thru them with old fashion oil in them while sitting in the ground with zero load on them. Then put the synthetic oil in them , and put them to hard labor. Other than leaving the gas on , and flooding the crankcase , I've never had one of them go bad. I use them on everything around the farm. The coils go bad , or the carb ruins from ethenol, but the guts of the engines just keeps on working like a borrowed mule.
you dont run synthetic anything for break-in lol. and what else besides motor oil? gearcase oil? thats all pretty standard wont make a difference. having too high of an idle speed as seen here, however, will damage the clutch dog.
@@ct1762 I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. No insult intended. I was talking about all 4 stroke engines. I do run synthetic in my chainsaws. From new I run synthetic in the 2 strokes. As high as they rev , I'm not sure if it makes a difference in them about ring setting. Hi Rev , and idle there is a huge difference in all around performance between regular oil , and synthetic in a 2 stroke. But in a 4 stroke the crankcase needs regular oil to break in or seat the piston rings. Newer vehicles don't seem to matter. Like my Toyota Tacoma 4 cylinder came with synthetic , and has only ran synthetic , and has never used any oil between changes. But I can't understand how these modern engines use oil as thin as water , and don't have any issues 🤔¿¿?? Anything with flat tappets I use regular diesel oil in to save the camshaft. After having 2 truck cams ruin I called Howards Cams. They explained that newer oil doesn't have enough zinc to preserve the flat tappets.
I dont have a boat, I dont need an outboard motor, the UA-cam rabbit hole led me here and I stayed for the whole video. Its a pretty good video and and I enjoyed the test and review for an item I have no interest in, you did well.
Twenty years ago, I paid over $900 for a Honda 4-stroke 2 hp outboard for my canoe. It runs just as well today as it did then. About four years ago, I thought I should replace the rubber lines in the engine. When I got into them, they were all still supple with no cracking, so I left them alone!
Finally another review showing love to Alibaba outboards in the US. If you can find a good supplier, it’s definitely worth the buy and more efficient than buying in the states. I have an enduro and I love it!
Clowns like you buy on price. Then when ALL quality has been squeezed out of the market you have the wittle balls to dare bitch about the current market.
Actually really enjoyed this video. I bought the 6 HP Hangkai 2 Stroke and have had a lot of fun with it. Cold start takes 3 pulls and warm starts, always one pull. Had to add lower gear oil and I also greased the zerts and put grease on the throttle cable and prop shaft so I dont get rust or corrosion. Yamabisi, very interesting name for a company, but this sounds like a very solid motor. Will be cool to see future videos of how the longevity of this motor is. I Subscribed!!
I bought a Mercury 4 Stroke 5 years ago. It ran so rough it shook the hole boat. Hated that motor, bought an electric trolling motor. Sold the 6hp on Marketplace in 2 days. I truly was like new because I only used it for an hour or so.
@mcmuskie2563 my hangkai 6 hp did the same thing. The vibrations were horrible during the break in period. It took about 12 hours of running it before it finally calmed down. Brand new motors seem to have bad vibration issues until the piston rings and everything in the outboard has broken in. Your mercury may have quit vibrating after 10 to 12 hours on it. Yet it seems like to me that these motors are best to be broken in using a Jon boat. They are much stronger and can handle vibrations a bit better than an aluminum fishing boat. We have a minn kota trolling motor we have with us as well. Always keep it just in case we run out of gas, or if we want to shut the gas motor off and slowly troll, but have that option at least.
I see your point about the flimsy fuel line. Fortunately that's not hard to change. That motor has a really good sound. I guess the engineering credit goes to Yamaha. Thanks for the video.
You should do a performance comparison video between this and an 80s 9.9 OMC. Speed to plane, and top speeds with different weights in the boat. The old 2 stroke will eat it up.
Like someone said look at what prop pitch it has and also maybe there is some carbi or throttle restrictor. Will be interesting to see if u can make some improvements in speed 👍@@BoatBusters
I would put an insulator over the intake manifold so your fuel doesn't boil for long use I've seen it happen a lot on the Honda outboards that are small
Nice video, just discovered you. Have My Dad's Johnson...... lol. 5HP 1950's. would be nice to see the difference for the age, but the old tool box green still runs great! Though nice to have a back up on fish trips. Keep up the great work, and funny commentary. Cheers..
I'm thinking of buying the Yamabisi 40 HP Long stroke - $1300 plus $650 shipping. Looks so simple to fix yourself compared to like an Evinrude Etec or a modern 4 stroke. Might turn out to be a reliable motor for 6 or 7 years on saltwater and be a great motor to teach yourself how to fix Outboards. Very reluctant doing anything major on a motor that cost $8000.
I would be wondering if it shares internals with higher horsepower motors. You may find restrictor plates or throttle restrictors. Its all ways nice when your 9.8hp motor can be modified to 15hp with some small fixes/ upgrades. It sounded like it reved so nice and low, surely it has a few hidden 1000x more to squeeze out.
Love the vid. Caution get rid of that gray fuel line. It has a plastic liner in it and will cause fuel issues if you haven't had them already. The plastic comes unattached to the hose and you will loose suction. FYI
Thanks for breaking in the motor properly, it will thank you for that! I gotta say that this 9.8 hp looks like a Tohatsu 9.8 hp, and not a Yamaha. But maybe some parts from Yamaha fits also, but I think this particular modell is based on a Tohatsu
A 9.9 Yammy will cost around $2,500. Suzuki and Tohatsu will be closer to 2k. Not sure I’d take the chance on a Chinese knock off to save 700-1000 bucks
UA-cam algorithm brought me here. The honest review and great editing job kept me from bailing. Would love to know what factory produces these Yamaha knockoffs. Also what's the street price for a Yamaha.
Hey mate, really enjoy your videos. About to buy a small Tinny to go fishing with my 13 year old boy and 10 year old daughter. You are giving me the confidence to buy decent second hand and do some motor maintenance ourselves. Look forward to your videos every week. Shane from Australia 👍
@@ShaneDouglas-n9u really appreciate that! Always free to DM on instagram too if you ever have questions on an engine you’re buying or need some help with a fix!
I work on this stuff for a living, and although I've heard of this brand, its basically a yamaha clone. (Yamaha may use two coil vs a waste fire system though.) Looks like could add electric start as well.
What a lot of people don’t realize is that big companies like Yamaha outsource for a lot of their smaller displacement motors. In the the motorcycle world a lot of the youth machines are all made in the same factories as the other brand names (and non name brands) who are all outsourcing to a 3rd party manufacturer
I once had an Akron brand outboard an exact copy of a Yamaha 15 2 stroke, went better, faster and more economical, but clearly made of inferior materials
I have wanted to order from alibaba but I guess I was worried about my money disappearing. So you trust them? No problems. Approx how much time from ordering until delivery> thanks man and you are an excellent poster.
First I have to say is this guy Crazy to buy this but then I said wow what a Nice looking Motor starts right up and the trip to the Lake ,,,,wow wow ,great Music Buddy ,for that Video ,,nice Motor ....
Your video's are awesome mate. I really appreciate how much effort you put into them to entertain us all. Keep them coming. I would like to see more of your Akita.🇦🇺
Great demonstration of being a wise consumer. I'm guessing that in the end run, your Yamagisi will not be constructed with the same hardness of some major parts, that will affect the longevity of the motor. You'll only find that out with a 'tear-down' of the drive train and an inspection of the bearing manufacture. There are oil additives containing suspended metal particles that will add to the life of any bearing, not just high quality product.
That was informative, I have leage Chinese CNC and edgebanders several are years old and still work well. facing retirement i am refitting my sailboat now off to a new motor !
If you have something that has an issue and creates noise, it will create loss! Great video love this sort of stuff. The thing you don't know is the person who had the issue may have equipment that is causing the issue.
You really had to STRETCH to find something wrong with the outboard considering that the fuel line from the tank to the outboard ISN'T part of the outboard!!😂 Sure it's inferior quality to your other fuel line but I think fuel line is typically considered an accessory. I'm not sure why you were trying so hard to find something bad with this engine. It's pretty commonplace in China for them to reverse engineer products which is most likely what they did in this case. It actually may be identical in design but the metal may be inferior so it may not last as long. An interesting video would be to run the comparable yamaha for the same amount of time then do an oil analysis to see what impurities are in each.
@@davidbenji1 I agree! I wasn’t purposefully trying to find things that are wrong with it, just doing an honest review and that was really the only thing I could find!
in Australia we get the PARSON outboard motors which are built and made in the same factory as the identical Yamaha every part down to the crank shaft only difference is the stickers and price. PARSON IS ONLY A THIRD THE PRICE
You can't argue with that price. Even if it's substandard Chinese parts if you can replace them with Yamaha bits when needed then you could still end up with a long term reliable little motor.
@@Dan_Akins The inside diameter of that supplied fuel line is a lot bigger than the orifice of the jet in the carburetor. These engines sip very little fuel even running wide open. That fuel line flexibility reminds me of the ones that came with the very early outboards.
I would venture to say that you could be down on power at full tilt because of the fuel supply line. Replace it with a real 3/8" fuel line and you might pick up some full throttle powr!
Since you have some hours on it, change out the oils and hang it on the smaller boat in your garage, guarantee it will go faster than the 15' boat you had it on.
I've seen other reviews of cheap Chinese machine parts and suggest you do an oil change immediately. Get in there with a magnet. Consider doing a 2nd one after your break-in is complete. Some of their things have bits of metal, shavings and such remaining that they don't clean out before assembly.
Is it Fuel Injected or Carburetor? To me this is critical because one does not have to worry about fuel evaporation, clogging needle jets and fuel bowls etc. provided it is Fuel Injected, the greatest improvement since sliced bread! A+ video Dude!
Cool channel! I love this kind of messing around with boats stuff. I'm not gonna take the chance on buying a knockoff motor like this, so I'm happy to see you check it out. Keep it up!
Expert trick. You can cut those plastic straps, when you got one loose. Simply take the loose end, and use it as a band saw. Zoof zoof zooof, you cut through the tight strap in no time. The other way, is find where it got heated, that spot you can often pull it apart, just get hold of the loose end and start pulling. Plock, open. You have not seen many factories up close, have you?
Mate I bought a $300 knockoff of a $2500 DJI drone. same camera. literally the same performance for video recording. Doesn't avoid obstacles itself, needs the pilot to do that. Alibaba and aliexpress are where most amazon sellers are buying the stuff they put 50% markups on and sell to the bigger audience on Amazon. Half of the Alibaba sellers will let you do a batch order of say 200 units and print whatever company name you want on the side. And most of what you buy and pay the big brand tax on comes out of the same factory anyway. Very rarely do more expensive brands use better components. Certainly not with Chinese made big brands. (Like DJI, for example.)
Careful on fuel tank as well...over time it can crack or rubber gasket at fuel pickup assembly will leaks, orange/red color "o-ring" is actually gear case drain plug gasket
I am a marine engineer. That gray fuel line is ABSOLUTE JUNK!!!! The supplied fuel line is silicone, that's why it's so flexible. Much better quality!!!
Nope. You’ll get a ticket if your boat is inspected with that worthless black fuel line. The sun will break it down, the bulb will fail, and it will leak vapors. Typical engineer…
Look, i have 6 yamabisi motors. I took a calculated risk buying, but it paid off. I haven't had any major issues. I use 2 in the Philippines & 4 in the US. Just take care of them like you would harbor freight tools & you'll be ok. I also have hangkai & aiqida outboards. All do good as long as you take care of them.
Makes sense. China is a major industrial power and what we buy is usually something they use in their own country.
Thank you for sharing that knowledge! 💯
I’m interested in their 30 or 40 tillers. Have you had to get parts for your yamabisis in the states? If so, where do you find them.
As somebody who has bought chinese engine devices a few times (generator, trimmer, chainsaw, rototillor) because they are ridiculously cheap, I say it will last for 1 year before needing to be fixed, and then will require to be fixed every 2nd or 3rd time afterwards.
i have a few Chinese engine devices that are quite reliable(motorcyle,chainsaw), i find they can be pretty good when they just clone a known good engine, brand new engine design, yea good luck
Thanks for actually breaking it in properly. Half of these UA-cam boat guys have no idea how to break in an engine/motor
@@jimlahey3919 thanks for supporting Chinese scammers is more appropriate
@@AARDFD I had a nice engine shipped to me… who got scammed?
Where is the oil filter ?
@@AARDFD the real scammers are the big manufacturers for those absurd prices
@@JerickWallace This from a guy who demands $15-$20 an hour from his employer with no skills.
i dont even think thats cheap, $800 feels like what an outboard SHOULD cost the prices i see on new outboards lately is nuts
@@ragdolltrucking you’re telling me… insane prices
@@BoatBustersi saw how you slipped "boat ramp street cred" in there, that was actually a comment i left on a hangkai review on youtube, kinda feel like everyones lookin at ya 🤨
@@ragdolltrucking 😂😂😂 was hoping someone would catch that hahaha
It's not the 80 s anymore
A outboard that size hasn’t been $800 in decades, you just wake up from a coma?
Change your prop to a higher pitch and it will be fine. They ship those
Looked like a plastic prop off of a toy boat.
You can inner tube behind that.😮
Most people don't realize it but Yamaha built the first 4 stroke engines for Mercury. I owned a Mercury Big foot 50 HP 4 stroke that was built by Yamaha. As I recall, I bought it in the early 2000's. I have a Merc 60 HP on my latest boat and my mechanic says most of the parts are interchangeable with the Yamaha 40-75 hp.
I owned a Honda 4 stroke in 1967 and it ran when i sold it in 1980 and never changed anything but water pump impellers and carb.
i had a 2000 Mercury bigfoot 25hp and if i recall it was built in fond du lac, wi. I'm almost positive it wasn't a Yamaha.
Have a 30 hp Mariner that was built by Yamaha. Every part on it is Yamaha, good since you cannot get Mariner parts!!
*Most people don't care* - Fixed that for you.
@@NotchFox And lots of Mercury parts work on a Mariner LOL
My 1st job would be ordering replacement Yamaha stickers!
Good business scam🤣
There goes all the money you saved buying the knock off…
You can print them on a water-resistant PVC foil. Thank me later
Nah the Yamaha outboard would disappear first.
Or, just don't buy Chynese products.
Wow!! This is tempting! I’m dying for a 40hp tiller and they got one for $1,500!!
You can get door2door for $2100. Meray, is the rep. You can get the much lighter 30hp for $1600 door2door US.
Almost Japanese 4 stroke.. for that price and shipping is awesome. 2 things to help u.. 1.. add a small movable wood block between mounting bracket/stern... 2. Just shorten the gas line. Love all those cool rod holders built in!
The issue is whether or not it simply dies in less than a year. A lot of Chinese knock offs look decent at first glance but then they die prematurely. I would love to see a follow up a year from now.
@@kirbyjoe7484 Correct, they often cheap out in the materials, build quality etc. Early failure is likely and no warranty to speak of.
I'm only 3 minutes in and subscribed already. I appreciate the lighthearted no BS style here. Good info
@@Ca_Tule_Ninja much appreciated my friend 🤝
I got the 12hp 2 stroke hangkai and it flies. 18mph on my bros 10.5 inflatable.
Both motor and boat for 2k
I dont even own a boat or a boat motor, but I enjoy mechanical things and this was a good video.
Yeah I completely agree. I'm not into fishing or boating, but this was one enjoyable video!
Same I have literally no manual skills and have trouble with a tin opener 😂but there’s something quite calming and satisfying watching this kind of stuff .
I guess maybe it’s just watching masculinity at its best,a kind of Tim Walz vibe maybe?
Disagree 100%. This was not a good video on mechanics. This guy knows very little.
I have a Chinese 15hp Sail brand 2 stroke OB (Souzhu Sail Motor Co) which is now about 9 yrs old. It's a copy of the Yamaha from the late 70s to 80s. Lots of parts (coils etc) are interchangeable and the motors look identical (looking like doesn't mean much with Chinese stuff) I have seen one apart and the cranks/rods etc look substantial and well made. Only problem with these Chinese Motors is the material in the castings. It is not marine grade alloy apparently. so they are best used in fresh water. I had the head off my 15hp late last year to inspect the water galleries, and they were full of corrosion, even though the motor was flushed religiously. When it was all scrubbed out, it didn't appear to be the block corroding badly, more a collection from all round the motor. New head gasket and water pump and it was away again with a few pulls.
The motor is run in salt water and has done a couple of 3/4 throttle runs of 22km up the coast and back with no problems. Changed the lower end oil after about 6hrs of running and it had quite a bit of metal in it, (probably not the best hardened gears) but next time will see if it continues shedding metal. For NZD $1500 (new Yamaha was around $3000) it's been a really good motor, and pushes a 12ft ply dinghy at 20 knots, which is pretty much the same as the original Yamaha, Merc, Evinrude etc 15s will do on a 12 ft dinghy. Motor is extremely economical as well. Pulled it out the other day to give it a run after about 5 months of sitting, and it started with about 5 pulls, starts 1st pop when hot. You can buy 2 of these Chinese motors for the price of one genuine model. Most smaller outboards - Merc, Yamaha, Suzuki etc are (or were) made in China anyhow.
Great video sir! Some of these off brand items are junk, but some are real values. Great honest review.
I used to import Yamabisi into Vancouver Canada.We never had any issues with these engines.The import rules changed where they needed EPA a few years back so we could no longer import them. I think the same rules for EPA also apply to the USA.Maybe they now have EPA approval which would be great as the engines are first rate.
Might have to re jet them to make them run properly.
@@D-B-Cooper re-jet? you didnt hear the idle? it idles like a sewing machine. what would you suggest richer or leaner? and why?
@@ct1762 I use to live in CA and Yamahas would run fine for a little while and then start to bog out and give problems. They just needed slightly bigger jets. They just needed to pass the emissions test before they were allowed to be imported. Idling is easy, notice how it wouldn’t rev up and lacked power and it wasn’t just the hose, I think they had a tank venting problem.
No one gives an honest review when they buy junk.
Where in the world do you get parts for this thing? Mail order to China? Seriously I think it would make more sense to buy a name brand so you can get parts over the counter.
My 9.9 mercury outboard is identical to a yamaha and a tohatsu.These Chinese clones are really dialed in.Have a predator generator that's 15 years old and gets about 50-60 hrs of use a year during storm's and for $400 it has never let me down.The rumor is that tohatsu makes every ones small outboard engines.
More than a rumor
Thats because its made by tahatsu
@@fergiesguideserviceferguso8830at least someone knows that mercury uses tohatsu outboards for both 2 and 4 strokes from 60hp down
How nice to see someone cares about proper run in of the motor !
@@Mr.-Wint gotta protect the investment!!
Mototune USA break-in secrets.. Tells you all you need to know about seating piston rings. "Babying" the engine = burning oil.
@@t.w.3 Damn right.
i mean if you are going to make a review and then say THIS THING IS JUNK BECAUSE IT BROKE AFTER 15 MIN, and then the footage is you starting it up first time and instantly keeping it full throttle for 15 min everyone wil be saying yeah what did you expect? Guy gives the yamabisi a fair chance as it should be.
@@gabbermaikel what are you rambling about lmao nothing broke 😂
A good rundown on this motor. Looks like it may be worth buying. The 500 bucks shipping charge is a bit steep. Thanks for doing what you do well.
If you ever need a part for it, kiss it good bye
@@KingfishStevens-di9ji Yamaha/Merc parts will fit, well some of them. But you can get the parts from China, no problem. But it may take some time.
Despite their actual wealth and development, China and the companies shipping out of the country have been using a shipping loophole with worldwide mail services and shipping companies for years as they designate themselves a 'developing country', so worldwide they ship anything and everything almost for free, so the deal they gave him on the freight charges cost them nothing and the $500 you mentioned is just a way to make more money off of the sale. Plus they own/operate a lot of the cargo ships. Never pay a large shipping cost out of China as it's a fake additional charge.
I order from dealer in China w/no problem, & I've used yamaha dealer in US 2 get replacement parts. I have 6 yamabisi 2 & 4 stroke ranging from 6-20hp.
Low price is because $450 of price is built into "shipping"... lots of other things priced that way...
I bought my 20hp Mercury to the door at 3,350. And with a 3 year warranty then I added the 5 year extended warranty oh and you done a great review 👍 😊
Slice a section of hose lengthwise, then place the flimsy hose inside. No cutting or splicing new hose and no leaks.
My first Video here…I like to see reviews from the places you can save money but…most people are scared to try…
Your honest up from info was key…. Sounds more like a 5.5 or 6 motor but…for the money this thing is a great value
run it with USA fuel line and see if runs better at wot.
i bet it does
ONE CONSIDERATION ON FUEL HOSE SIZE IS THAT AN 4 CYCLE ENGINE USES LESS FUEL THAN AN 2 STROKER!
THEREFORE THE FUEL DELIVERY ABILITIES ARE UP TO THE JOB !
@@rossbryan6102 TYPING IN ALL CAPS MEANS YOU ARE VERY SMART, AND ALWAYS RIGHT !
@@eriklarson9137 Stop yelling you two...
I had a Parsun 15hp 2 stroke given to me. I got it running with parts from a yamaha 15hp i had. It was identical but looked like it had been through hell. It ran great and my buddy still uses it.
The Yamabisi carb looks different than the yamaha 4 stroke i have. Looking forward to seeing whats innerchangable in the next video. -Dan from the Virgin Islands.
That looks like a long shaft, so your lower unit probably contributed to a lot of drag limiting your speed. Cool little outboard!
@@brianblizzard7591 it is a long shaft but that boat does take a long shaft. I think I’m missing some sort of air adjustment or something honestly. I’ll figure it out !!
@@BoatBusters Have you tryed defferent trim settings if not try that🤠
@@BoatBusters Check that the carb at full throttle is actually wide open. Some of the carbs have a stop before wide open, to lower hp a little. If it isn't wide open, cut the stop off, and you'll have a lot more top end. It looked like it was missing the last 1/4 throttle on your speed run. Or, buy a 25 hp ... heh heh.
Carbureted 4 strokes don't like ethanol gas. Use Trufuel no ethanol gas.
1950's 10 HP Mercury outboards would rev out to about 16 HP and push a hydroplane about 60 MPH...
common type of issue and good review. My big welder was the same way. It came with an absolutely horrible ground cable and clamp but the welder itself is absolutely fine. So I put my own custom made ground cable on and now I’m good to go.
Definitely try that outboard with a standard fuel hose, that tiny diameter could also limit full throttle as not delivering enough fuel. Looks pretty decent for that money.
Switch out all the fluids for quality synthetic ones to ensure longevity.
You really need to break in the rings with "Real" oil. I don't understand why a new , or rebuilt engine will not break in the rings ,n cylinder walls with synthetic. Possibly the outboard oil is different. But the synthetic will make an engine last much longer while using it after first break in with dinosaur guts. Like the Clonda clone Predator engines. I'll burn a couple of tanks of gas thru them with old fashion oil in them while sitting in the ground with zero load on them. Then put the synthetic oil in them , and put them to hard labor. Other than leaving the gas on , and flooding the crankcase , I've never had one of them go bad. I use them on everything around the farm. The coils go bad , or the carb ruins from ethenol, but the guts of the engines just keeps on working like a borrowed mule.
you dont run synthetic anything for break-in lol. and what else besides motor oil? gearcase oil? thats all pretty standard wont make a difference. having too high of an idle speed as seen here, however, will damage the clutch dog.
@@coburnlowman its not different in a 4 stroke
@@ct1762
I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say. No insult intended. I was talking about all 4 stroke engines. I do run synthetic in my chainsaws. From new I run synthetic in the 2 strokes. As high as they rev , I'm not sure if it makes a difference in them about ring setting. Hi Rev , and idle there is a huge difference in all around performance between regular oil , and synthetic in a 2 stroke. But in a 4 stroke the crankcase needs regular oil to break in or seat the piston rings. Newer vehicles don't seem to matter. Like my Toyota Tacoma 4 cylinder came with synthetic , and has only ran synthetic , and has never used any oil between changes. But I can't understand how these modern engines use oil as thin as water , and don't have any issues 🤔¿¿?? Anything with flat tappets I use regular diesel oil in to save the camshaft. After having 2 truck cams ruin I called Howards Cams. They explained that newer oil doesn't have enough zinc to preserve the flat tappets.
@@coburnlowman Yep. I think people do that with bikes also.
I dont have a boat, I dont need an outboard motor, the UA-cam rabbit hole led me here and I stayed for the whole video. Its a pretty good video and and I enjoyed the test and review for an item I have no interest in, you did well.
@@dirtybirdau I appreciate that! Never too late to get a boat though 😏
Great review. You may get better speed by swapping props.
Twenty years ago, I paid over $900 for a Honda 4-stroke 2 hp outboard for my canoe. It runs just as well today as it did then. About four years ago, I thought I should replace the rubber lines in the engine. When I got into them, they were all still supple with no cracking, so I left them alone!
Finally another review showing love to Alibaba outboards in the US. If you can find a good supplier, it’s definitely worth the buy and more efficient than buying in the states. I have an enduro and I love it!
@@Jonboatjimmy absolutely agree!
Clowns like you buy on price. Then when ALL quality has been squeezed out of the market you have the wittle balls to dare bitch about the current market.
isnt an enduro a genuine Yamaha???
@@annydaysullysay yes
Yamabisi reminds me of the good old days of car audio and seeing Rockwood and Kenford amps at the swap meet.
😆🤣
My favorite outboard youtuber
@@I_Fix_ur_broke_stuff really appreciate that man 🤝
I've been thinking about ordering one of these for a minute and youre the first video I found for one, thank you
Actually really enjoyed this video. I bought the 6 HP Hangkai 2 Stroke and have had a lot of fun with it. Cold start takes 3 pulls and warm starts, always one pull. Had to add lower gear oil and I also greased the zerts and put grease on the throttle cable and prop shaft so I dont get rust or corrosion.
Yamabisi, very interesting name for a company, but this sounds like a very solid motor. Will be cool to see future videos of how the longevity of this motor is.
I Subscribed!!
@@leoscomputerandguitarrevie978 thank you so much!
I bought a Mercury 4 Stroke 5 years ago. It ran so rough it shook the hole boat. Hated that motor, bought an electric trolling motor.
Sold the 6hp on Marketplace in 2 days. I truly was like new because I only used it for an hour or so.
@mcmuskie2563 my hangkai 6 hp did the same thing. The vibrations were horrible during the break in period. It took about 12 hours of running it before it finally calmed down. Brand new motors seem to have bad vibration issues until the piston rings and everything in the outboard has broken in. Your mercury may have quit vibrating after 10 to 12 hours on it.
Yet it seems like to me that these motors are best to be broken in using a Jon boat. They are much stronger and can handle vibrations a bit better than an aluminum fishing boat.
We have a minn kota trolling motor we have with us as well. Always keep it just in case we run out of gas, or if we want to shut the gas motor off and slowly troll, but have that option at least.
I see your point about the flimsy fuel line. Fortunately that's not hard to change. That motor has a really good sound. I guess the engineering credit goes to Yamaha. Thanks for the video.
You should do a performance comparison video between this and an 80s 9.9 OMC. Speed to plane, and top speeds with different weights in the boat. The old 2 stroke will eat it up.
@@publicdefender77 great video idea
@@BoatBusters to be fair to the 4 stroke you could also do a MPG category to show how much more efficient it is.
Like someone said look at what prop pitch it has and also maybe there is some carbi or throttle restrictor. Will be interesting to see if u can make some improvements in speed 👍@@BoatBusters
I own two of these Chinese outboards. One is an 18hp and a 40hp. Both copies of Yamaha. Good reliable little motors for a fraction of the price.
The block feels good 😊
Sounds good. Sounds very healthy and lively.
))) FOR HOW LONG (((
Come back in 3 to 5 years and show us how good it still runs
I'm thinking 3 months.
8 months tops
Probably the same as the name brand junk sold nowadays
I would put an insulator over the intake manifold so your fuel doesn't boil for long use I've seen it happen a lot on the Honda outboards that are small
Sorry to break it to you but everything is built in asia, American ingenuity is dead has been for years.
Nice video, just discovered you.
Have My Dad's Johnson...... lol. 5HP 1950's. would be nice to see the difference for the age, but the old tool box green still runs great! Though nice to have a back up on fish trips.
Keep up the great work, and funny commentary. Cheers..
@@erice.5844 thank you so much man! And love those old motors
That motor is identical to my 2011 Tohatsu 9.8, but in gray. Same motor, same cowl, same sound
I'm thinking of buying the Yamabisi 40 HP Long stroke - $1300 plus $650 shipping. Looks so simple to fix yourself compared to like an Evinrude Etec or a modern 4 stroke. Might turn out to be a reliable motor for 6 or 7 years on saltwater and be a great motor to teach yourself how to fix Outboards. Very reluctant doing anything major on a motor that cost $8000.
I would be wondering if it shares internals with higher horsepower motors. You may find restrictor plates or throttle restrictors. Its all ways nice when your 9.8hp motor can be modified to 15hp with some small fixes/ upgrades.
It sounded like it reved so nice and low, surely it has a few hidden 1000x more to squeeze out.
@@Side85Winder couldn’t agree more. Going to spend a lot of time on this one and dig a lot deeper!
@@BoatBustersI know the old 9.9 just needed a bigger barb to be a 15
Yup. My 9.9 Yamaha was easy to do. I replaced the reed cage and carb. 50% more power.
Love the vid. Caution get rid of that gray fuel line. It has a plastic liner in it and will cause fuel issues if you haven't had them already. The plastic comes unattached to the hose and you will loose suction. FYI
All top speed tests should be 🎭 performed with Tuggy for the sake of accuracy and giggles 😃
@@ManMountainMetals this is a fair request 😂
Thanks for breaking in the motor properly, it will thank you for that!
I gotta say that this 9.8 hp looks like a Tohatsu 9.8 hp, and not a Yamaha. But maybe some parts from Yamaha fits also, but I think this particular modell is based on a Tohatsu
A 9.9 Yammy will cost around $2,500. Suzuki and Tohatsu will be closer to 2k. Not sure I’d take the chance on a Chinese knock off to save 700-1000 bucks
I paid 2200 for my tohatsu 9.8.
It’s been an amazing motor.
@@williamsporing1500 I have a Merc 3.5 for my dinghy. It’s a basically a Tohatsu with a Merc label on it. Great little motor
UA-cam algorithm brought me here. The honest review and great editing job kept me from bailing. Would love to know what factory produces these Yamaha knockoffs. Also what's the street price for a Yamaha.
@@roaddog7542 appreciate you my man 🤝 not sure on the factory- but a new Yamaha 9.9 is gonna run you around $4,000
Really nice lil outboard looking forward to watching part two.👍🦅🇺🇸
New subscriber. Loved the way you meticulously broke this down.
@@dsmith6785 thank you so much 🤝🤝
Hey mate, really enjoy your videos. About to buy a small Tinny to go fishing with my 13 year old boy and 10 year old daughter. You are giving me the confidence to buy decent second hand and do some motor maintenance ourselves. Look forward to your videos every week. Shane from Australia 👍
@@ShaneDouglas-n9u really appreciate that! Always free to DM on instagram too if you ever have questions on an engine you’re buying or need some help with a fix!
I work on this stuff for a living, and although I've heard of this brand, its basically a yamaha clone. (Yamaha may use two coil vs a waste fire system though.) Looks like could add electric start as well.
rev limiter on the first ever second of this engine running 😂😂 always nice to see your videos !
@@samijacquin8814 yeah that’s my bad 🤣
That's how ya break it in real good. Full throttle for the first 100 hours.
@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 if it can’t take it then it was junk anyways
What a lot of people don’t realize is that big companies like Yamaha outsource for a lot of their smaller displacement motors. In the the motorcycle world a lot of the youth machines are all made in the same factories as the other brand names (and non name brands) who are all outsourcing to a 3rd party manufacturer
I once had an Akron brand outboard an exact copy of a Yamaha 15 2 stroke, went better, faster and more economical, but clearly made of inferior materials
Liar.
I have wanted to order from alibaba but I guess I was worried about my money disappearing. So you trust them? No problems. Approx how much time from ordering until delivery> thanks man and you are an excellent poster.
@@chuckcunningham9653 I appreciate that! And I was nervous as I had never bought from there, but everything went great! Roughly 2 months shipping
The fuel line looks like they only used the liner out of a typical fuel line lol cause if you cut the grey hose it should have a black center lol
Congrats on the sponsorship brother. Again, fantastic video. Fan for life
@@austinalbright1373 thank you so much man 🤝
Fun Fact: My great grandfather invented those shipping strap thingys…
Neat, how's life like being an obscenely wealthy heir to the shipping strap thingy fortune?
Funner fact - me too.
They should have built you a statue 😅😂
First I have to say is this guy Crazy to buy this but then I said wow what a Nice looking Motor starts right up and the trip to the Lake ,,,,wow wow ,great Music Buddy ,for that Video ,,nice Motor ....
Interesting video. Im happy I subscribed to your channel a while back. Ready for the next one.
@@johnhamilton9229 thank you my friend
Your video's are awesome mate. I really appreciate how much effort you put into them to entertain us all. Keep them coming. I would like to see more of your Akita.🇦🇺
@@Tacticalandk_9 really appreciate that man! I can give the Akita some more screen time 😎
Thanks. Ramp cred…just cut the bisi and leave Yama!
@@markthomasson5077 agreed 🤣
Black duck tape problem solved
Now do the 200hp knock offs, I just discovered that's a thing... subbed instantly
Normal a tohatsu 9.8 is a carburator and 9.9 injection
How much extra for injection? I have never had problems with my Mercury 40HP EFI purchased new with my boat in 2007
Great demonstration of being a wise consumer.
I'm guessing that in the end run, your Yamagisi will not be constructed with the same hardness of some major parts, that will affect the longevity of the motor. You'll only find that out with a 'tear-down' of the drive train and an inspection of the bearing manufacture.
There are oil additives containing suspended metal particles that will add to the life of any bearing, not just high quality product.
Looks like you fell for the old fuel tank sitting on fuel hose trick or the tank cap vent closed trick. You aren't the first
He's lucky his buddy didn't poke him in the eye with a peace sign, nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
Great video with no BS… new subscriber here looking forwards to more.
@@tbsomerville5798 appreciate you brotha 🤝
Yamabussy? sure, why not.
@@pbdropshot5369 I’m voting for the official name change
Are you going to change the fuel line and run it on a smaller boat..see how it performs?.....great video and review btw.
Boat ramp cred "Yamabisi" 🤣🤣
Todays Yambisi is sometimes tomorrow's Honda... a simple fact most stuff designed in japan gets made in China Vietnam Malaysia these days .🤷🏻
Great video. Just randomly going this in my feed, watched the entire thing.
A lot of good videos on this channel, earned a subscription from me. Looking forward to part 2!
@@zibzer really appreciate that 💯
Character reference points sky rocketed when I saw your Akita. Great info on the motor. Gorgeous Akita!
@@davidlowndes7731 thank you so much!
That was informative, I have leage Chinese CNC and edgebanders several are years old and still work well. facing retirement i am refitting my sailboat now off to a new motor !
Listen buster, I currently like the rate of video posting, keep it up!
@@DirtHouseBoi I will keep ‘em coming don’t you worry!!
If you have something that has an issue and creates noise, it will create loss! Great video love this sort of stuff.
The thing you don't know is the person who had the issue may have equipment that is causing the issue.
You really had to STRETCH to find something wrong with the outboard considering that the fuel line from the tank to the outboard ISN'T part of the outboard!!😂 Sure it's inferior quality to your other fuel line but I think fuel line is typically considered an accessory. I'm not sure why you were trying so hard to find something bad with this engine. It's pretty commonplace in China for them to reverse engineer products which is most likely what they did in this case. It actually may be identical in design but the metal may be inferior so it may not last as long. An interesting video would be to run the comparable yamaha for the same amount of time then do an oil analysis to see what impurities are in each.
@@davidbenji1 I agree! I wasn’t purposefully trying to find things that are wrong with it, just doing an honest review and that was really the only thing I could find!
Bro you're trippin'. The fuel line came with it, and it sucked. So what -- are you a dealer?
Nobody's even going to use that fuel line.
Love your stuff
Evinrude 9.9 in the garage
Carb leak
Tackling soon
YOU NEED MORE CONTENT!
@@gregcherechinsky8686 thank you and best of luck with the carb!!! More content coming soon 🫡
in Australia we get the PARSON outboard motors which are built and made in the same factory as the identical Yamaha every part down to the crank shaft only difference is the stickers and price. PARSON IS ONLY A THIRD THE PRICE
You can't argue with that price. Even if it's substandard Chinese parts if you can replace them with Yamaha bits when needed then you could still end up with a long term reliable little motor.
Be nice to see a regular fuel line and tachometer on this engine for reference.
Tach on a 9.8 ?
@@blairtully6200 as a reference point between the small and larger fuel line. I know it is not gonna rev to the moon. lol
Thanks!
@@Dan_Akins The inside diameter of that supplied fuel line is a lot bigger than the orifice of the jet in the carburetor. These engines sip very little fuel even running wide open. That fuel line flexibility reminds me of the ones that came with the very early outboards.
I would venture to say that you could be down on power at full tilt because of the fuel supply line. Replace it with a real 3/8" fuel line and you might pick up some full throttle powr!
I got a hangkai 6hp, runs great!!! use it as a trolling motor. No issues at all. Bet that motor works great to.
Since you have some hours on it, change out the oils and hang it on the smaller boat in your garage, guarantee it will go faster than the 15' boat you had it on.
I've seen other reviews of cheap Chinese machine parts and suggest you do an oil change immediately. Get in there with a magnet. Consider doing a 2nd one after your break-in is complete. Some of their things have bits of metal, shavings and such remaining that they don't clean out before assembly.
Is it Fuel Injected or Carburetor? To me this is critical because one does not have to worry about fuel evaporation, clogging needle jets and fuel bowls etc. provided it is Fuel Injected, the greatest improvement since sliced bread! A+ video Dude!
@@CaptBobGT62 thank you! This one is carbureted
Dude, congratulations on a great purchase and good luck with the brand spanking new YAMA-BEAT-CHU…!.!. Do they have an electric start model?
@@JakeDuin-fz6tj thanks and yes they do!!
You have earned yourself a new subscriber today, as I'm very interested in how genuine Yamaha and Merc parts will work with this scam engine!
Cool channel! I love this kind of messing around with boats stuff.
I'm not gonna take the chance on buying a knockoff motor like this, so I'm happy to see you check it out.
Keep it up!
Try one of those v-8 motors with a 15 foot shaft next!
Expert trick. You can cut those plastic straps, when you got one loose. Simply take the loose end, and use it as a band saw. Zoof zoof zooof, you cut through the tight strap in no time.
The other way, is find where it got heated, that spot you can often pull it apart, just get hold of the loose end and start pulling. Plock, open.
You have not seen many factories up close, have you?
Definitely try a bigger outboard from them if possible 😁. Awesome review 👏👏 Definitely prolly will buy. These name brand outboards price is insane.
Mate I bought a $300 knockoff of a $2500 DJI drone. same camera. literally the same performance for video recording. Doesn't avoid obstacles itself, needs the pilot to do that.
Alibaba and aliexpress are where most amazon sellers are buying the stuff they put 50% markups on and sell to the bigger audience on Amazon. Half of the Alibaba sellers will let you do a batch order of say 200 units and print whatever company name you want on the side. And most of what you buy and pay the big brand tax on comes out of the same factory anyway. Very rarely do more expensive brands use better components. Certainly not with Chinese made big brands. (Like DJI, for example.)
Careful on fuel tank as well...over time it can crack or rubber gasket at fuel pickup assembly will leaks, orange/red color "o-ring" is actually gear case drain plug gasket
Reminds me of those Yamasaki motorcycles that were sold online for a while. Some people said they were actually pretty good bikes.
Good honest review, outboard seemed good.
I am a marine engineer. That gray fuel line is ABSOLUTE JUNK!!!! The supplied fuel line is silicone, that's why it's so flexible. Much better quality!!!
Nope. You’ll get a ticket if your boat is inspected with that worthless black fuel line. The sun will break it down, the bulb will fail, and it will leak vapors. Typical engineer…
Thumbs up for changing fluids first. So many people use the garbage shipping fluids.
9.8HP 4 stroke is a very good purchase