I DELAY the Piccadilly Line just out side Piccadilly Circus. Plus extremely busy platforms
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
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This is a bonus video and starts on the east just inside the tunnel at Piccadilly Circus station.
I had some issues departing the station which resulted in me coming to a stop just outside the station.
I explain the issues in the video.
However the video starts just as we get on the move.
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Dale I think you have a patients of a saint when you are dealing with platforms so full and you have the safety of the passengers and your self. I stand and salute for your professionalism and calmness.
Thank you. I appreciate it
Patience.
@@oldman1734 He might have meant Dr Saint, who indeed did have patients :p
Having your colleagues join you in the drivers cab was an added bonus! Some of those stations were millions of busy. Thanks for the extra vid, Dale!
Dale, "I'm on a diet, oh ok leave it on the floor then" 😂😂😂
It’s rude to say no 🤣
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 I like you video
Nice addition to last video SO MANY PEOPLE if i had to travel in that crowd I'd be grateful it's you driving, you really do care about your passengers big pat on the back mate all the best Mark D.
It's so cute when a train driver talks to passengers
Must be bloody nerve wracking when you’re coming into crowded platforms like that. I’m ashamed to admit in the 90’s when I lived in Sydney and was younger and more stupid I almost became a passenger incident. Stupidly I ran for a train, got my right arm holding my bag in but the doors wouldn’t move. Train takes off and I’m doing increasingly longer paces down the platform. Fortunately the guard in the centre carriage was observant and sent the emergency bell to the driver. Driver dropped the dead man and we stopped. Idiot here was then able to get on. Lesson learned, there’s always another train. It’s not worth the risk, rushing for a train. 🤔
Thanks Dale for the bonus. You’re a good man. 👍🏻
Thank you. People don’t always realise the dangers of their actions. I hope my videos high light them for people
I once was stuck on a Piccadilly line train for 2 hours after a signal failure so it terrifies me when tube trains get this busy 😱 keep up the good work and excellent videos 👍
Luckily that doesn’t happen too often. Well the signal failures might but in terms of getting stuck
@@dalecharmantravels8057 WHY YOU GOT People in the cub
@@jacobdawson7193 I don't see any cubs or lions in the cab mate.
@jacobdawson7193 those were other TFL employees. Drivers or potential other employees can ride in the cab if they wish so, and that's handy if it's this busy.
It's great to see the monitors, thanks Dale.
Since discovering your channel I really started feeling sympathetic towards drivers. Insane to think how just a couple minutes of a delay can cascade into a big disruption like this.
It doesn’t take much on a busy day to mess it all up
I reckon this is your best video yet, fantastic stuff
Thank you
21:51 Hello little mouse! Another very informative video - thanks for these.
Absolutely fantastic, we just so enjoyed this broadcast, thank you so glad for doing this for all of us.
Been watching for a little bit and enjoying. As a mainline driver in the north of England, I have to say that some of the differences are wild! You can contact Control on the move, have off-duty staff in the cab, and of course film your trip! Any of these would be a disciplinary if not worse for me. Very interesting to watch how different our jobs are, despite essentially being the same thing!
im an aussie and i recently visited London and was so amazed at how good the underground was. like you say "a delay here and a delay there" but in the grand scheme of things as a passenger on those trains for a couple of weeks i noticed every time i went down into the underground getting on and riding a train even with delays always seemed like one came every couple of minutes it was the lest stressful train system i have ever ridden in the world. at least outside of peak times when i rode great to see what you guys as drivers see. i tell you what the first time i was down there the trains as they came into the stations looked and sounded like they where doing 100mph hahaha. anyways keep on doing what you do brother.
I hope you enjoyed your visit to London and hope you get to visit again
I just discovered your videos today. Now I am well hooked. Sitting here with a glass of wine just chilling and enjoying the tour of the London underground. Thank you so much for letting us join you on your trips.
Glad you enjoyed it
Super Sunday treat! You certainly had a lot going on today. Sooo many people! You are right, it was quite a shock. The new camera seems clearer, and can see a lot more in the tunnels. Nice to have some company in the cab for a little while. Hope the food was nice!
This takes me back to the closing of the 2006 Commonwealth Games here in Melbourne, Australia. I was hired as a Platform Census Taker, passing on the levels of crowding on the platforms at Richmond Station following the closing ceremony. At one point we were moving over 12000 passengers an hour per platform and had to close the station on several occasions. The trains at the time could safely carry 1600 passengers. I think the Inspectors were not looking too closely, as I'm pretty sure that limit was exceeded several times an hour in the three hours it took to clear the station of passengers. The MCG could hold 100,000 people and they pretty much all came through the one station.
Some times it’s nice when it’s busy ( from a stations point of view). Never a dull moment and time flys
Great stuff thanks for capturing those scenes. With the train heavily loaded could imagine the power contact shoes sucking every last amp out of the power rail.
Great video dale fellow English man here living in New Jersey USA I’m a local truck driver and like you safety is paramount with me people don’t realize the pressure you have on us drivers to keep everyone safe
When it goes wrong the driver is always the first in to blame. Happy trucking my friend
All that humanity. Thank you Dale, very interesting like you say. Nice to compare the different platforms, one heaving and a bit further on nobody there. All the best.
This vid brought back memories of being a passenger in the 80’s rush hour trying to get home three changes on the tube then a train, oh happy days! Good to see it from a drivers perspective❤😊
Really enjoying your videos - thank you for sharing!
Thank you so much. I really appreciate the support
That was Certainly very busy on some of the Stations. .have a great week ahead 😊
I enjoy watching your content.
Thank you so much. Your support is most appreciated
Hi, Dale. I’m watching this in Orlando, Florida waiting for whatever is going to happen to happen. Not much I can do.
I drive a Universal Orlando bus. Passengers (guests) often tell me how boring and monotonous my job must be, driving a bus back and forth on such a short route, so many times, all day.
I tell them, on the contrary, this is like a vacation for me.
I had a 25-year career driving buses, subways and streetcars up in Toronto (TTC and GO Transit, and a year in Vancouver just for fun) before moving to Florida over 7 years ago.
I’ve had my share of excitement for a lifetime. And I’ve got the grey hairs to prove it (I started greying in my 30s).
I went from US$28 an hour in Canada in 2017 to US$12 in Florida. And I was happy to do it!
Thank you for doing these videos. And thank you to London Transport for letting you do them.
You do a fine job I she. Used that bus service before in Orlando. Of cause I hope that not just you but the whole of Florida survive this storm. Please let me know you are safe
@@dalecharmantravels8057 Thank you sir.
This was an excellent demo of how extreme busy time can both cause ops issues, and weigh the train.
But also was a great demo of the co-worker comraderie, and the extra tip of food was a welcome treat.
Also the reflected images of the driver door, and ops is really neat to watch.
Thanks for the extra vid!!
At 21.52/54 A small mouse ran past the door,behind the platform monitors. This is a great video !!!!
Posted the same, then scrolled down to see your comment...
Excellently explained and very interesting to watch, well done Dale
Classy act Dale. Being from New York, as much as I root for the home team you're already way more invested in the issue and trying to solve it (as well as keep the people informed as to what's going on) in 5 minutes, than I've EVER experienced on our railroad, and that's what immediately struck me w this style of video. You're invaluable to LUL Dave. Keep doing a great job brother. True professional.
From this side of the pond, we agree with you! But his name is Dale, not Dave.
@evelynsutton4411 yes I know, auto-correct got me lol thank you though
@@Cq184 Yes, Dale is a much more unusual name so l suppose autocorrect can be forgiven!
Thank you. I appreciate the kind words
@dalecharmantravels8057 anytime sir keep doing what you do!
Another fantastic video dale. Also thank you so much for the shout out much appreciated Keep up the great work.
my right ear is enjoying the cab view
My left ear feels left out of the action
I thought it was my earbuds konking out again
God love ye
Sorry I hope to have a fix sorted asap. On a tv or laptop you don’t notice the issue
@@dalecharmantravels8057 If you use Adobe Premier for your audio/videos "Fill Left" or "Fill Right" in the audio track filters
The issue is usually the audio is panned to Left or Right instead or being Center, you can also convert it to Mono instead, which will also solve the problem. Hope this helps
(Edit: It can also be the reverse, that its a mono audio file being played only in one channel, and needs to be playing in both)
This has been a great video, seeing how busy it can get. Thanks Dale.
During times like this we implement crowd control from the gateline, so the person doing SAT’s, if there is anyone will report the busyness to the control room, then we either reduce entry to the platforms or stop it altogether. Worst case scenario, station closure. We deal with crowd control measures very frequently at Bank/Monument.
Some stations suffer from over crowding more than others. It doesn’t happen that often on the pic line ( not on the late shifts any way)
@@dalecharmantravels8057 Central line gets hammered regularly and quite often we face problems. Prior to our new gateline opening, we used to really suffer if the Central and Northern went down at the same time.
I saw a program once about Oxford Street, it often showed the entrances to the tube station being closed, presumably due to crowd numbers.
@@leeroberts1192 I work with one of those members of staff who was filmed during that. It can be chaos, but it makes time go quickly whilst you’re thinking on your feet.
@@NoddyMaccy A good few years ago now there was a "fly on the wall" type documentary series called "The Tube"
"Mind the doors please....or stick your foot in em" LOL
Once as a boy I was riding a commuter train in Toronto. The conductor yelled at somebody over the speaker, “GET YOUR HEAD INSIDE OR I’LL TAKE IT OFF”
Ultimately, I worked for that agency (GO Transit) for many years. But I never could summon the courage to channel that conductor, much as I wanted to.
That's SO interesting! It puts into perspective the issues and reasons for delays that I experience sometimes, which at the time, seem frustrating.
Whenever I travel by train, if possible and practical, I like to at least say "Hi" and "thank you" to the driver (often possible at terminus stations, particularly when they exit their cab). Not only am I interested in their job, but I know they often appreciate it. I don't like to think they might do some hours on the job without talking much to anyone.
Just a "technical" point - in this video, the sound is in the right channel only (I notice because I'm listening through a sound system).
I was using a new mic and don’t know it was recording in mono. There are a few videos recorded this way
Got to admire your professionalism. The Underground's a dangerous place with all those people, some of whom obviously don't help themselves or the situation. I assume you have a much better view in the mirrors than we get? (not a cticism btw, I know the cameras you use have limitations and you can't be moving them all the time). Another excellent video - thanks!
That was a lovely chat with the TfL staff! Great vid!
Hi Dale great video! Never so many people get on one train! Nice staff that gave you free food! Congratulations on 30k subs🎉
Thank you
Great video keep them coming please.
Hi Dale. Thanks for sharing what happens when there's issues with departure & overcrowding. Hope enjoyed your "free food" & congrats on achieving 30,000+ subs! Well done! 😊 👍
Thank you
I've found that impatience equals discomfort and delays when it comes to using the tube. These trains are extremely frequent. There is no sense in cramming yourself into a train that is at capacity. I'm glad tube drivers like yourself are beginning to film their days at work to show the commuters that the job is not easy and it can be super stressful.
You often hear people say it should be illegal to carry so many people on trains. However it is there choice to get on and would soon want an argument if you told them no it’s too busy
@@dalecharmantravels8057Yep. No way to satisfy some people. No matter what is happening, they’d rather it be some other way.
Even when it's not busy, I don't understand the London mentality of holding open doors or dangerously running towards a train that's about to depart. There's literally one every two minutes. Is that small delay really going to mess up your day?
@@dalecharmantravels8057 its some what often the case that a train will be delayed on the tube but one will be right behind it and every time the first will be rammed with 6 to 10 minuets of people getting straight on and the second will be empty as its running closer to clear the tracks.
Londoners are too impatient.
Fantastic video Dale. Can't believe the crazy amount of people on the platforms keep up the good work
Very interesting trip. Thank you.
Another excellent Video 👍
Enjoyed today vids. Great of to see the chaos when it goes belly up. Great professional customer services from you Dale. When it happens to me on heavy rail I sort of do the same except when it turns ugly then I am a git to them but still professional with it. Keep the vids coming dude. 🐷👍
I've seen it busy but never seen it that busy on the Piccadilly Line! Great video
I experienced firsthand the crowded conditions of the Picadilly Line at peak hours on my trip to London last spring. Not a pleasant experience, to say the least; narrow carriage + 100 people + lack of air-conditioning = tube traveler's nightmare!
Dale, I must commend your patience, smart attitude, and strict adherence to safety when dealing with these less-than-ideal conditions. You are a testament to transit professionalism, good sir!
Thank you I appreciate it
Hello Dale
Love the videos thank you for the brilliant work.
Kind regards
Andrew
You mentioned the football, and this is something I have found recently - there's been no Piccadilly Line service on the Rayners Lane branch for the last two Fulham home games, which is incredibly annoying!
There was a couple off weekends of engineering works on that branch. Hopefully it will be open the next time you need to travel for the footie
@@dalecharmantravels8057As you’ll know - I checked the schedule and it turns out all bar one of the next Fulham games are affected in some way. In fact I’ve written to TfL and FFC about it, because there needs to be better cross-communication.
here we go!! another legendary video
Wow how stressful, good job. You must breath a massive sigh of relief when you pull into Cockforsters at the end of a shift.
Days like that keep you on your toes
Still no mints . . .
First time I've seen one of your videos where it was so busy,
Great to see the mirror and monitors.
keep up the good work Dale.
I waited at Arnos Grove with some mints but no one came for any. Maybe next time
Wow, that was crazy busy. This is when you realize and appreciate what you do every day
Thank you again for another great video❤
Great video dale
Great job Dale, your attention to safety is exemplary. Through travel for my job I rode a lot of extremely crowded trains in Japan, some of them so rammed I could hardly breathe. Not for the claustrophobic! But there was a good discipline among the passengers that makes the London experience seem quite disorganized by comparison.
I have seen some videos of the trains in places like Japan. They are much busier than here but like you say they have dicipline. It would be fun to watch staff pushing people in to the train though
Thank you Dale for another very interesting video. Cheers from Brisbane Au.
these videos are great!!. Live in NY now and ride the MTA there but am British and spent many a year riding the tube. Nice to see it from a different perspective!!!
Another informative video ty
I did'nt know that the delay causes so much waiting travellers. It was very busy. But you manege well. Nice video Dale. See you at the next one 👍
Hope you didnt forget your free food Dale! Great video mate thanks again
Enjoyed that Dale. Best wishes.
Thanks for sharing Dale. Well handled. One of the worst trips I had on the underground was on a very heavily loaded train that then stopped in the tunnel with all the lights going out for about 15 minutes. If you think you may have claustrophobia this is when you find out!
ps. I originally found this channel when I was looking for essentially the same thing for the LIRR in New York. I used to live on Long Island and commute into Penn Station and the only way I can stay sane if you don't like crowds and the trains frequently get stopped is to focus on the technical side of things ...
I think the not knowing what’s going on is the main issue. Some times a driver can’t make a PA for several reasons which just makes people more on edge
I wish i had that many passengers on my platforms when im playing Train Sim World 5....hahahaha
Very interesting video. Thanks!
Great video dale! Love these
I have never seen the Tube so busy. It show more of the challenges the job throws at you.
Hi Dale, hope you’re well. Camera is good in this position as it picks up any light better. Have a good week and we look forward to your next instalment👌🙏
Bus driver here. I get twitchy pulling into a bus stop where there is a crowd waiting along the kerb, it would do my head in pulling a train into a station with crowds like that right up to the platform edge !
A great video again especially seeing the station's so full.
Dale could you please maybe at the start of your runs and filming say your run number.
Not that many of us from other countries could relate but it does make it interesting to know run number's
What do you mean by run numbers. We have duty numbers and train numbers but they wouldn’t mean any thing to passengers?
Thanks for the great videos
MARTA, here in Atlanta, generally isn't busy like Underground gets ... but there are exceptions for large stadium events. When events let out, the crush on the train is extreme.
MARTA handles this by stationing personnel on the platform to, essentially, herd the cats.
great video
Wow, so busy. Whenever my bus got full I simply didn't stop at bus stops unless someone wanted to get off. You obviously don't have that option.
In another world I would have loved to drive on the underground.
Love your videos and love the fact that your first name is my last name 😅.
Hey Dale! Lovely video as always. I've been really fascinated by London's Tube (and train driving!) since I was 3 years old! I'm not sure whether or not I'll ever get a chance to visit it IRL but watching your videos brings me so much joy (especially when I'm feeling down)!
Have you ever considered/tried putting the camera on a wall behind you so that we can get a better picture of you driving the train (without unveiling too much about it of course)?
Also, absolutely LOVE it when you take us for a "walk" when changing ends at some sidings (like Heathrow).
Thanks again for the amazing content and for fulfilling 2 of my dreams!
Greetings from Greece!
There has been issues about some videos that show some of the controls so I can’t film that sort of video any more. Having the camera in the back wall all you would see is my bald head. Sorry I know it’s not as interesting but I don’t want to be stopped filming
@@dalecharmantravels8057 Noooooo it’s totally alright and I 1000% understand that. I’ll still watch your videos either way. Your company is what matters the most. Thanks for taking the time to reply to my comment! Sorry if I came off a bit harsh :(
You didn’t come across harsh at all.
good to be able to see the platform monitors. so many people though; glad I didn't have to suffer the crowds.
Hello there I have always fascinated seeing trains never been in one don't know if I will ever travel in one either. Watching from Jamaica 🇯🇲.
I hope you manage to get in one some day. Of cause the Piccadilly line trains are the only ones you need to try 🤣🤣
Thanks Dale
Thanks for a great series of interesting videos of the Underground.
Seems strange to have some signals on the left and others on the right compared to the main line where they are all on the left.
thank you for the shout Dale hope your having a lovely afternoon just getting ready too leave London waterloo too Portsmouth harbour fire Basingstoke
You’re* having
To* not “too”
Why The Spaces 😭
Wow what a mare with these old trains 🫠
Hellow sir the stations where fully packed but I saw few onces where empty .nice editing though 💥👌
Once we passed the central London stations then more people are getting off than going east towards Cockfosters
@@dalecharmantravels8057 ok sir I understand now👍
Can remember traveling on that line in early 60s with my dear old dad every Sunday who was working overtime...we travelled from Waterloo to Piccadilly Circus when trains stopped at Fleet Street and Trafalgar Square before it all changed...we always walked up the emergency spiral staircase at Piccadilly...I wonder if you can still do that...
No idea. I don’t think I have ever used that station
Dale hi again. You did had a rough
Time that day. I am glad that you didn't get in trouble for it. I just wanted to congratulate you on your 3000 fan count. So how does your family feel about you being a UTube star?
I hope your next days at work go much smoother.
Take care.
Ps I have gone through all of your Tube videos now I have too finish going through your travel ones.
Thank you for the kind comments. The family just like the fact I can travel and bring back duty free for them 🤣🤣
Fascinating, I didn't know that staff can ride in the cab with you. Is it all TFL staff, or are they off-duty drivers? Seems like a wicked perk.
Interesting to see how the train reacts to a major perturbation.
‘95 stock hardly suffers from loss of the DCV compared to the ‘73’s, personally, I think there’s a deeper internal window lip on the doors so it’s easier for a shoulder, a hand or an elbow to dig in and lean against the doors, plus, some doors have weaker interlocks I find. Also we have in cab CCTV to help with safe departures, picture all the way to the six car marker on leaving.
The 73 stock is not as bad as it used to be for loss of pilot light. Even on empty trains the pilot used to go. Hopefully the new trains won’t have these problems
@@dalecharmantravels8057 as a guard on the ‘73’s I can recall losing pilot light often when busy, but I can also recall the doors having hard rubbers and what seemed to be a high psi behind them as even burly dudes found it difficult to push them back open, health and safety must’ve kicked in now it seems lol
Oh, btw, hope you’re well Dale, keep up the great work old chap 👍🏻
I am good thanks I hope all is well with you
who dale that was a busy one the busiest ive seen so far.thats the time when you need a mint😀
Well done Dale
Great Ride
Yep.
You can tell Arsenal were at home..I've made that journey a few times in the past. Nightmare!
It's a shame they can't (or won't) redevelop Drayton Park Station, as it's right next to the Emirates, but due to the very small island platform, it's always closed on Matchdays as it just can't handle the amount of passengers.
Redeveloping it would ease the major congestion on the Piccadilly line when the Gunners are playing.
I agree there is plenty of open space at Drayton Park to redevelop the station. I suppose with so many other upgrades needed in the network it's unlikely to.happen.
Brilliant thanks
Great video Dale,. Wow when it get's busy it get's busy and the pilot light incident certainly didn't help still bonus of free food. 😉👍. PS: How was the food. 🤔.
The food was ok thanks
Hi Dale great Video crazy busy. Could you explain what the letters A and B near the monitors means.
An A category platform means if there is an issue with the monitors or like I had leaving Pic circus staff would need to assist as I can’t see my train. Generally speaking if there is a curve on the platform it is most likely an A platform. Category B means if I look down the side of my train I can see it all so can dispatch myself if there is an issue
Just discovered your channel and really enjoying the videos. It fuels my nostalgia as a former London commuter now moved away. A question I had is how line assignments work. Did you get to choose which line? Are some lines more popular with drivers? Thank you and keep up the great videos :)
When you get the job as a driver you will be assigned a line and depot. After I think it’s 2 years you can then transfer to a different line. So a lot of people will put there name down for one closer to their home
@@dalecharmantravels8057 Thanks for the information!
you eluded to it yourself between Holborn and Russell Square ( 8:34 ) but I personally much prefer the more straight on angle you had between Piccadilly Circus and Covent Garden 🙂
I used to work as a conductor up north and agree it’s never fun when you are full and standing and customers start getting upset about being left behind etc… but that’s what keeps it interesting at the end of the day I suppose… apart from the verbal you have to take sometimes lol 😅
The joys of public transport I guess
Do you know if they have ever send a train to skip stations due to being full? Like dispatching calling and saying when ya stop at Picadilly Circus announce that the train will be non stop untill Kings Cross or so? For example when the football's on and staff observe the train if filled to the brim with arsenal fans?
Mega busy, can I have a shout out please.... Cheers love the streams
Leave it with me
When I worked for BR Regional Railways North East, we had some Multiple units where high winds could force the doors interlock open and we could lose traction.
Not the best of designs
@@dalecharmantravels8057To say the least 😅
You certainly picked the perfect day to try a different camera position.