Arnos Grove sidings to Earls Court. Piccadilly Line. A slow journey through central London
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Today's video is for a journey from Arnos Grove sidings down to Earls Court.
It was a slow trip down as we followed a train ahead.
once we get in to central London we see a lot of red signals as we catch the train ahead up.
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When I was a kid I travelled from wood Green to Cockfosters alot for school. I remember 1 day I was travelling back to Wood Green and I always sat at front of train behind cab, the driver came through the door and asked if I wanted to sit in front. Up to Wood Green. Was fantastic. Can't remember his name as it was 90s. But I always remember that day ❤
😊……sounds cool! Good thing you didn’t mention his name though as it sounds like a breach of protocol. I wonder if we’ve met as I too used to do a similar route for school although it was a school called St D& St K. If you know, you know😊
I've mentioned before in a previous comment that it's been over 25 years since I last travelled on any of the underground lines, that's why I enjoy watching your videos because I find them fascinating as they show just much things have changed. 👍.
Brilliant video as always.
One thing struck me this week - how much skill and judgement you need to drive these trains 😮
I had pre-conceptions (from where i know not) that it was a case of stop-go-stop but the amount of using your knowledge regarding speeds, gradients, gaps etc is mind blowing.
Until the next one matey - thank you
Your comment ref the amount of concentration required to do your job. Makes me laugh at Tory MP’s, who believe you just push a handle back and forth. So claim you are overpaid.
They share the same opinion as the majority of the general public. They don’t understand what goes into being a Train Operator. Procedures, safety, fixing certain issues with the train to keep it in service, dealing with customer incidents and more!
Thanks Dale for the "slower" journey. As you say, plenty of concentration needed. Always enjoy my tube rides and enjoy your time off work. 😊 👍
I have all Dale's Piccadilly Line videos in my collection which give me great pleasure to watch. His personality and style shines throughout and his knowledge is outstanding. It makes me understand how skilled a train operator's job is. I find looking for the next signal entertaining as I can't tell where they are positioned. I wanted to be a train driver when I was young but it never happened. The level of concentration required is immense. His explanation of SPAD really surprised me as it is not always the drivers fault. My thanks and appreciation to you, Dale. Regards, David
What a grand thing it is to find a driver who makes detailed, lengthy videos of my lifetime local Underground line! Your videos Dale, have answered so many queries that I've had, having used this line for literally day in, day out for 27 years! I now finally figured what that beeping/alarm sound is (the dead man's handle alert) and why it's always followed by a hiss from the brakes whilst sat at a station, or what many of the sidings are called along the route. I thank you so much for all of this and am binge watching your videos!
If only EVERY Underground line had someone like you, particularly the Bakerloo or Central line would be ones I'd love to see! Nonetheless, thank you, your efforts never go unnoticed!
Thank you for the comment
Well done Dale, it explains some of the mysteries of the Tube to those of us who live in the countryside.
Your employers must be pleased with your videos.
They have never said any thing about them so I guess that’s good. If they was unhappy I am sure I would hear about it
Cheers Dale, another banger as always. Always makes me happy when one of these come out.
The distant trains in the pipe come out well thanks Dale. I am always surprised that the signals are some on the left of the track, some on the right. I believe that, on the pre-grouping Great Eastern Railway, of which I make models, the signals are always to the left of the running line to which they refer. I don't know if that is still true for modern UK mainline trains.
Great video Dale, very interesting information.
Thanks Dale, the commentary was interesting, I learned a lot about SPADs.
11:26 Nice view of the suicide pits. I haven’t noticed them from this view before.
Absolutely love this video, these slower journey video's are very interesting. Cheers for this one Dale, look forward to the next one now
Such a fantastic video and thank you for sharing. Dumb question, while I know you are a great operator did you ever "overshoot" a station while you were learning? I never seen it happen in real life but I mess up on my sim game so much 😂😂
No. I came close a few times while training
It was wonderful cab ride.
That was a great trip. Thank you for sharing that with us.
The squealing wheels remind me of Boston's Green Line light rail line as it enters into Boyleston Street station located at the corner of Boyleston and Tremont Streets in Boston, MA. This is one of the tightest curves of any transit system and the speed of the curves is about 5 mph. The trams come to a near stop before negotiating the curve and there are greaser units to squirt grease on the rails to lubricate them.
Whenever new equipment is ordered for the Green Line, the MBTA can't purchase off-the-shelf trams and has to customize them in order to fit the tunnel and curve. Some years ago, BREDA made the mistake of using bogies that were too large causing the test train to derail and get stuck causing millions in damages.
Hi Dale, as someone who loves tunder and lightning, it was great to see the other train leaving the platform and seeing the electricity from the shoes as it went away from Arnos Grove. Great video and commentary yet again.
Another excellent video, Dale. Thanks.
It’s really interesting to see and hear “behind the scenes” information - like how you signal which road you’re on, and how you find out which platform you’re being directed onto. There must be someone organising everything like a giant train set. It’s fascinating.
Thanks Brian
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Great ride , good chat and spad info . Appreciate your descriptions , usually the squealing is tight gauge , if the tracks worn and been tightened until works , train pushing down , track pushing up . Looking forward to the next one 👍☕
There's my evening sorted.....
Well done Dale...great as ever
LOVED your insight into service disruption! Would love to see more! Fantastic as always!
I have a video coming up in a few weeks with long delays that I hope you will enjoy. So stay tuned
I do enjoy watching your videos.
Many thanks, Dale. Very interesting.
loved this video especially your description of the signals and SPADS was another great video
I'll chalk this up to watch later this evening. Thanks again in advance for making the effort to record and publish these videos.
Hi Dale, another interesting journey and commentary. Thanks for explaining, SPADS.
As an American who lived near London as a child, I always enjoy your videos.
My very first ride on the tube was on the eastbound Piccadilly at Gloucester Road in Feb 1975.
I can still clearly remember when the 1973 stock first entered service.
Hey Dale. Probably wouldn't work at the moment bcause the season is over, but I think a really good video would be one where Arsenal FC are playing at home.
2nd, I hope for you to be the operator on the first 24' Stock Passenger train and the last ever 73' Stock train
Love your videos, Simon
A link for you to probably the most famous "don't tell him, Pike" scene: ua-cam.com/video/_YMVPXmaKds/v-deo.html
Thanks for Another really great video Dale, brilliant content keep up the good work 👌
another great video fantastic commentary ive learnt so much I will keep watching
Love the view of the tunnel from the driver's POV
Also trains in Victoria Australia are not powered by the rails
Awesome video Dale
What strikes me: The parts of the Piccadilly line where there is the most to see and the most interesting and diverse stuff happens are exactly those parts most people know the Piccadilly line of. Most people, especially tourists, know the line from the boring pipe part and they never got to see how complete a train line with all necessary worries it actually is.
Great video, always interesting, the unusual running conditions a bonus.
Good stuff mate, keep them coming! 😄
I travel A lot from King’s Cross to Arnos Grove find it cool I do
For a northerner, your educational video's are welcome, the met morning video's are very silent as Al pointed out.
What does the white cross in the red placard mean I did enjoy the ride thank you❤
did you ever encounter a suicide attempt or someone falling on the tracks in your career?
Yes, depot plungers, for us drivers it’s known as something else, a ‘donkeys’ wotsit’ 😂
Yes I have an avoided mentioning that 🤣🤣🤣. Although on the Pic line at least most have been removed for a normal button plunger
Great video and informative as usual. Wish this route was on train sim world on the Xbox.
I travel A lot from King’s Cross to Arnos Grove find it cool I do
Sorry me again I know its long way off but could you done a Video (if your on duty ) on what its like on Christmas Eve or New Year Eve in the mean time Thank-you for another Interesting Video on the Piccadilly Line
If I am working then yes I will film them
Piccadilly Line 1973 Tube Stock
Would a a L U (London Underground ) Driver be Di splined or Dismissed for going through a Red-signal Secondly how many Drivers do L U recruit each year?
As a general rule you can have 4 safety critical incidents in a 2 year period. After passing a signal at red you would be taken off the train and have a meeting with a manager. As for how many drivers they recruit I have no idea
Hmm. A reference to Dad's Army.
Some of the stations seem really close together
Great video👍. Can doing 45 mph where you are allowed be unuseful at times as you would catch up to the train in front?
Yes a lot of the times you are crawling along from one red signal to the next
Wheel squeal. A retired senior BR engineer explained it as:- in a curve the wheels on the outside have to travel further than those on the inside. The wheels are fixed on the axles, there is no differential, so the wheels have to slip slightly on the rail head. There is a steam railway near me with a tight curve on the station approach. You can clearly see the slip patterns on the railhead.
There's other reasons for squeal too, like wheels that are worn unevenly allowing the flange to rub, axles or rails that are on the narrow end of the allowed margin.
love your videos and ive got some qoestions what is the track rail voltage also where do you get your supply from ? the mains grid or do you have your own power supply
We run on 640v DC. I believe the power comes direct from the grid
When you talked about you vacation plans, im a captain in boston harbor, and i gotta tell you i havnt heard the ny seaplane all summer
@@wickidmainah that could be why I couldn’t find any availability when I searched for it. Even though it said they still flew that route. Never mind. It would have been good fun though
Hi Dale, was just wondering, are there any Female drivers?
There are yes
how comes theres no green and yellow black stop marker at every station like hounslow east or ealing common?
Some use a diamond on the floor. However most have the green strip to stop at
Great video dale
great video
Another very enjoyable journey Dale ....thank you. You must have amazing eyesight to see signals and trains so far ahead. lol. Thanks again..all the best. p.s. Just noticed, big well done on reaching 20K subs. Awesome.
What’s your favorite/least favorite part of the job?
I wouldn’t say I had a favourite part. After a while it’s all the same. The late finishes are the worst part though plus the travelling to London every day
If the power was to go while you where in the tunnel is there like a backup battery on the train to keep main controls working
We have batteries for things like lights and PAs. We would have to let momentum carry us along to the next station subject to signals. I have had to coast from just out side Manor House to Turnpike Lane and luckily made it
Cheers Dale, another good video, re camera battery I use a power bank plugged into my GoPro whilst recording a long run with a 256Gb SD card also have a spare SD card just incase needed they don't take up much room to carry around, giving more options.
Ok, so I’m thinking a collaboration of some sorts between you and Jago Hazzard would be really really good. You are both extremely good communicators, fantastic to listen to and knowledgeable. I’m just sewing the seeds👌😊
Sat down with a cold beer to watch the latest vid from you. It’s alway good to watch your vids. Extremely interesting facts 5hat I didn’t know, I used the tube a lot in the 1980’s I remember the Jubilee line terminating at Charing Cross oh how times have changed❤😊
Great video as always, very much enjoyed learning about the different type of SPAG you can have, though I'm sad to hear that bol' isn't one of them!!
Hi Dale, really enjoying these videos - work for SWR down in Wiltshire but always been fascinated with the underground as well!
Great trip, followed it on a map as you went along. Only been to London a couple of times in the sixties and seventies, the station names brought back memories.
Amazing insight! I’ve grown up in Arnos Grove and still commute from AG to Wood Green every day and I love looking out for any oddities about the place
Another great video. Thank you Dale. Regards Michael from Germany
have u ever taken a wrong train after a meal relief at acton and heading west or east?
I have not
Dale just an idea when you go to New York why don't you get in touch with the transport company what does the underground and over head trains in New York. And ask them if possible if you could film on one of there routes so we can see what it's like on there trains.
south kensington has the natural history musuem, the sciene musuem and the london planetarium. I've been there a few times but only via the district line.
Thanks again for a great video and learned some more about you job and the tubes' operations.. Till next time...
When you go into the middle platform at Arnos Grove why don’t you open both sets of doors or is there a reason why you don’t?
We only do that if the train is reversing. So if it is going east all the passengers are on the left platform any way so no need to open on the right. The same the other way if we come in to the middle platform going west
@@dalecharmantravels8057 ah ok thanks for the reply 👍
When you are in the sidings, or waiting to start a journey like in todays video, do signallers ever “forget” about you? Like you plunge in the sidings and never get a signal?
You need to find a way to do a ride along video from the A/C/E lines on the New York subway!
Living in the US, I’m amused to hear you give length in meters and speed in miles per hour.
Picturesque place , visit Costa Café nearby ...
50:38 Hi Dale, I believe the reason why some 73 stock units screech worse than others around bends is due to differring levels of wear on the side profile of the wheels as it is a wear part of the train.
Therefore static friction is higher than rolling friction it's always a good idea to let the train better run slowly than came to a full stop.
Looking forward to the BA first class cabin review when you visit New York. Wouldn't it be great to go to Grand Central station and hook up with a MTA 'motorman' or conductor and film a ride on the NYC subway system.
I hope it should be a good trip. Although at the moment I can’t get a window seat 😢😢
It shows up well on this video how close Convent garden and Leicester square are together.
can I ask why on the tube it is called a corner, and on the overground lines it is called a curve?
14:33 is that why mainline stations have "OFF" signs?
Yes, it is
@@LUAu101 Ahh
Love it ❤
I was taught to say Turnpike Lane with an Italian accent as Turner Picker Larn-ay.
Always find your videos fascinating :)
quick question Dale....
after doing these videos, is your work/job life better or worse or is it more fun in your job doing these videos now???
ie something fun to look forward too???? cheers
I spend most of my week working now. 5 days a week driving trains and at least one day editing and posting the videos. Of cause I also spend most of my time replying to messages and trying to plan my next trips away
Thanks Dale for this video. I enjoyed it. Until the next one😁👍
There's a sign about plunging at Morden station!
So at 20:00 you are held at a red signal, how long would you usually wait before contacting control to find out whats happening? Just curious really, i assume that depends on the driver?
The rule book says after 2 minutes with no info and you should call the signaller/controller
I have never travelled onthe underground in London so I find your videos really interesting
There was 4 trains stabled at Arnos Grove sidings, did you choose the best one out of the 4? Or they allocate you one? No 320 again?
It was allocated to me
@@dalecharmantravels8057
I think this is how most of the trains are normally formed, but as you already know, they do change them around for engineering purposes.
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Do you ever get so close that you see the back of the train in front?
Yes. This video shows me get close to the train ahead a few times
At around 36:47 you can see the rear lights of one in the tunnel. Cheers mate
Your train driving videos were a great find! Keep them coming please. Is the precise braking difficult for the inexperienced drivers? I trust your driving skill. Greetings from Finland.
Like every thing it becomes easier the more practice you get. Some people take to it quickly and some need more time
You don't have a London accent; where are you from?
Thanks Dale, informative and entertaining as always. A couple of questions for you. 1) What voltage do the trains run on? 2) Have you ever accidentally opened the doors on the wrong side of the train or is there something to prevent this happening? 👍
The underground use 630 volts DC. As for the doors, I have never opened them on the wrong side. I do cover this topic in a video coming out soon
Hi Dale - do you know where the half-way point is in ‘the pipe’? I reckon it’s York Rd disused station.
In terms of stations it’s between Holborn and russel square. In terms of the actual length of the tunnel then no idea
Your commentary turns what could be a boring view of very little into an interesting trip during which I'm looking out for all the bits you mention. Forgive me if I repeat my plea for the Down Street rusty rail video!
If all goes well I should be going to down street in the next couple of weeks. So with any luck I can get that filmed and up soon
Can you board the train from both sides at arnos Grove?
Well talked about Dale that was very interesting well DONE ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 😊😊