ALBATRON GeForce FX 5900 vs 5700 restoring and testing
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0:00 - intro
1:09 - first post to BIOS
4:03 - new caps for Albatron FX5700
5:58 - restoration Albatron FX 5900 XT
13:12 - restoration Albatron FX 5700
14:40 - restoration PixelView FX 5700 No.1
17:41 - restoration PixelView FX 5700 No.2
20:08 - testing setup
21:47 - MAFIA
23:22 - Quake III
25:00 - 3DMark 2001SE + temperatures
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Inception - Aakash Gandhi
Journeyman - Aakash Gandhi
No Turning Back (Instrumental) - NEFFEX
The Empty Moons of Jupiter - DivKid
Tropic Fuse - French Fuse
Viking - Aakash Gandhi
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The real Noctua GPUs
This backup fan idea is hilarious. To solve the potential problem of a cheap fan failing, they simply added another crappy one , so it's OK if one of them fails. Just using one or two reliable fans would be too boring I guess :).
I really miss the time when graphics cards used to have funky PCB colors. Nowadays the 3 most common colors are black, white or green. That's sad.
I think blue and red PCBs, look pretty!
Fantastic video as usual! I really enjoy these kind of videos.
Oh yes there has been some great designs over the years.
The blue pcb Hercules 3d prophet 9700 pro & their 9800 pro with the blue led fan.
Arctic cooling's vga silencer gpu cooler cards like from HIS which usually took it a step further with those too.
Their Ice q models specially the HD 3000 & 4000 series still look great.
UV reactive coolers!
I'd love having that kind of glow with the gigabyte 1660 super i use in my main pc right now even if i dont use any uv reactive cold cathodes right now id buy some just for the card.
Copper coolers are also great looking both third party & first party.
Like Msi's gtx 560 ti golden edition & their gtx 465 golden edition or cards with the Zalman vf1000
Other third party coolers like the zalman vf3000 series, Thermaltake Duorb & 330 fanless cooler, Gelid icy vision, xigmatek battleaxe.
(Dad has one mounted on my old xfx hd 6870, great cooler for the card got it used new in box for like 5 usd off ebay years ago.
Stays silent pretty much up until 70'c where it starts too make some noise.)
It's so sad Gigabyte gave up their typical color, blue, that they've picked up around year 2001. They fell for that black boreness. They've made also beatiful blue motherboards, even in times of Z77 chipset (Ivy Bridge)
@@warrax111 That's so true. I still have a bunch of Gigabyte boards in my collection, with that PCB color. My personal favourite is the GA-6BX7+, it looks lovely. What a shame, that the majority of PC Hardware have to use the same colors.
Thank you, finally someone that understands :) Also, I miss the times where ATI cards had green PCBs, and Nvidia red ones...
I had an old PC with a red Nvidia 1080HD Graphics card that lights up and changes colour with an AUSUS BLACK PEARL motherboard and a fluro green sound chip with all the flashing lights you can fit in a single unit, Compare that to my new PC and style wise it puts even the fanciest new PCs to shame. I miss the days where companies actually tried to impress their customers.
4:38 if you ever see nippon-chemicon KZG series caps - replace them. Nippon-chemicon makes very good caps, but KZGs were awful and they have very high failure rate.
KZJ same
This was when people didnt bothered with noises coming from the PC, today most people wouldnt accept this level of noise in any circunstance.
I've never had a loud build, even back in the FX5900 Ultra days. If you build with a good quality case and don't have the tower open or sitting right next to your ear, the noise should always be minimal. I think the noise here on the videos is pretty enhanced with the microphone, too.
So I had a Leadtek Winfast FX5900 Ultra and it was silent in running unless looping 3D Mark or stress testing the card. I still own it and use it in a Core2Duo retro build from time to time, but the machine right now has an X800Pro installed because it gave much better performance in Age Of Mythology.
It's actually one of the features I miss from the old PCs, some may find it annoying or unnecessary, but for me it's the sound of a hard working PC. Sometimes I actually remodify the fans (if safely possible) with louder ones just to bring back that experience plus it cools down my PC way better that those quiet stock ones.
PC's back then weren't really loud unless you made them that way, barring all the mechanical media and modems, which, I presume, you are not talking about.
People that bought "high performance" cards are gonna expect more noise, and the modern cards aren't a lot different when you work them hard enough to trigger the fans.
If anything, the cases back then were quieter due to being more closed off.
People bothered and most of people were doing 5V mod to fans, just manufacturers of GPUs didn't care for some reason.
love the old builds but oof, I certainly don't miss having fans making that noise anymore.
been playing with fanless cards, some of my favs for Win9x: PowerVR Apocalypse 3Dx, VooDoo3500, MatroxG400, fx5200, 7600gs, 9600gt
7600GS boy what a card that is, got one in my Pentium M retro rig. Passive too!
No H.264 acceleration is a massive downside though :( Need to get me one of those HD 3850s but FUCK the prices they want for them.
i truly appreciate your passion for Fixing, Restoring and Testing Old hardware, You got all my respect and i only hope the best for you
Those pixelview cards are very forward thinking, using a shrouded design and led lighting before most cases even had side panels!
And don't forget about the LCD that they have for no reason at all!
I love how unnecessarily complex that spare fan system is on the FX 5900.
4:40 Cap exploded downwards, rare but happens.
You recognize a Mafia fan when he's showing you footage from the Free Ride Extreme, and he already has a lot of cars :)
these coolers are gorgeous
Last time I had to clean a heatsink so dirty, I took it to the sink and cleaned it with hot water and dish soap, then I dried it with a hair dryer.
This was amazing! Thank you this video.
Takes me back to 2003. I was lucky enough to buy a ATI Radeon 9700 PRO full price at $399 and my friend calling me crazy for not waiting for the Geforce FX. Joke is on him even today because I got a great deal. I miss Albatron though, they always had great GPU box covers.
03:20
Well i never knew those existed FX 5700 AGP card with LCD on it. That must be pricy back in days.
08:18
Cleaning old graphic card is rewarding but sometimes disquieting, especially if previous owner was smooker, i remember one TnT2 i got i cleaned damn thing countless time and even after year in open box in storage still i can smell the Tobacco
Thanks for great video builds will be interesting for sure
Thanks for pinup and great video without this chanell i never would know that so much awesome hardware exists.
Watching you clean those fans reminds me I need to clean my retro systems from when I was a smoker. Thank God I gave that nasty habit up. I got fans that look way worse than those. Smh
adoro este canal siempre targetas que nuca habia visto
Love the crazy shroud designs, looks like alien tech.
Very nice work, congratulations and these video cards look really good
That Albatron 5700q what the second gfx I’ve ever purchased! EVGA GeForce 4 MX 440 was my first.
I got that 5700 so I could run Half-Life 2!
Tá rodando melhor que a minha GTS 250 , aí manja na informática se loco👍
those Pixelview cards remind me a bit of the Galax hof edition cards with the displays
Excelente 👏 aí e manutenção preventiva para evitar corretiva todo mundo que tem desktop têm que fazer.
a protip, the bubblegum-type paste will come off easier with petroleum-based products like goof off.
Muito bom, coleção aumentando. 👍
Amazing cards! Maximum respect! 🙂👍👍👍
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Friend, you should try to get an ultrasonic cleaner, it will make your life easier cleaning the coolers, heatsinks and boards. Great vid as always.
I saw this stuff. It is good for metal parts ... but not sure how this works with plastic parts or elox aluminium. This way I know/see what Iam doing and can use "handbrake" in second if anything goes wrong. I mean bad cleaner (IPA, petrol cleaner, acetone, toluen).
@@RETROHardware I did not see any plastics, or componenets being damaged. It can save you tons of time, and not suffering 2.5 hours in 3 small fans lol :D . Check this guy (minute 6:15) he even puts the CPU in it. ua-cam.com/video/A0_qPz8TT9c/v-deo.html
OK I watched video. This is absolut non-accetable = put everything to basic water. Will keep my way with x hours :-)
@@RETROHardware I use IPA in my sonic cleaner. But I mostly only use it for cleaning pcb's that had severe acid damage from leaky caps. It really does work very well. But I also use white vinegar to neutralize the acid first too. Most times I just clean them manually just because..../shrug it seems like I can see more what is going on.
Back in those days and prior i used to remove the small fans and either replaced it with an entire new cooler or jury rigged a large silent fan to the passiv cooler base.
Way less annoying sounds then small fast spinning fans. Even so they had some good looking designs.
I love those light blue fans. i imagined them as having a slight glow as they spun. Perhaps another time. I was surprised when the blue color was revealed as I had no expectation of it at all. Not too noisy for me. I remember squealing fans and shrieking bearings.
Not sure if they were built with lower end components in general or people simply treated them badly for some reason (...), but the amount of faulty/broken FX cards in my collection is unmatched by any other generation
Anyways you could have used some PC 133 2-2-2-5 instead of those crappy CL3 😜😜
I have very good percentage of working FXs vs. Radeons 9xxx, they are more defective.
Setup was free preinstalled after OC session ... and this ram module can do 215MHz+. But here is pointless to play with timing. Just run any 3D apps to see what cards doing or not.
ATI 9700's are notoriously bad because of the thermal compound failure. If they were replaced right away it may not be so bad but I have 3 that worked even as recently as 2010 but 2 are corrupting now. The FX cards were somewhat better but I also have a couple dead 5600's and one dead 5200. And only 3 working FX cards.
thanks for this
loved it
Whoa,what a cool way with a "spare" fan !!!
Nice work mate I really enjoyed the process, I still own my old AGP era GPUs, (MX440,FX5200,Albatron 6600GT)
Is your FX5200 with 128 or 64 bit memory? Have you compared your MX440 with your FX5200?
beautiful video cards.
My favorit dish old hardware thanks for this vídeos.
Helo!
I love your video!
With love from România !
Such a great disassembly/assembly of GPUs.
First time i see such a detailed video ,even how the fans were lubricated ,i never had the slightest idea how to do such a thing.
--P.S. I had been using(*still own) a GeForce 6600GT from *Albatron* (one of the 1st pci-e GPUs so it's still compatible with modern PCs) , so Albatron models are always in my heart.
still compatible !!!!! lol go on then try it, think you'll be sadly disappointed...
@@chloedevereaux1801 ok , you are right , it's not suitable for modern days PCs ,but you have to think the possibility of being used in a very powerful *retro* PC.
Why to build a retro PC which will be limited with an old AGP mobo/CPU-combination ( meaning it could only play games of until around 2005 ) , while i can use a PCI-e mobo/CPU combination which could be the foundation of a much more powerful retro-system ?
--P.S. By the way , i had built an office pc for my father around 2013-2016 which actually utilised an Athlon64 FX60 CPU and this PCI-e Albatron 6600GT. He never complained to me that the pc couldn't perform its office/browsing tasks. So the PCI-e version of the Albatron 6600GT could be combined with a more modern system compared to an AGP-system , even if it wasn't meant for gaming .
An AGP based system would be limited in many areas besides the GPU alone...
Nice!
I'm so glad the recapped card worked!
I didn't remember those PixelViews, love them!
As a non-smoker, smoker's computers/parts are the worst... Not only are they difficult to clean, they also stink.
Those pink sticky thermal pads come off relatively easy with contact cleaner (at least with the one available in my country).
oy, quit hating on fkkn smokers..... if it wasn't for us YOU wouldn't be enjoying pc's or poxy consoles..........
@@chloedevereaux1801 Didn't hate on smokers, only on the tar residue on computer parts...
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That emergency fan seems like a cool thing but id imagine the bearring would be dry if one of the main ones fail
Respect form the card thank you for cleaning me .lol good job cleaning this classic card
i remember having fx 5900 was soo goood card back at the time
I suggest using GPU-z v. 0.7.2 or 0.7.6 for better chance of getting a core and memory clock read on this old GPUs. It's not perfect, but at least it shows something in clock speed.
Alternative is AIDA64 or HWInfo.
Yep this was my mistake, I didnt catch that no clocks displayed in that version. I tried 2.4.0 version and got black screen. I had AIDA on the desktop, but main point was runs any 3D app to test if cards are OK.
7.2.0? I think that latest version is 2.4.6 or something like that.
Next time will use AIDA to show info.
@@RETROHardware It was my bad. I corrected GPU-z versions from my previous comment.
I have the FX5600EQ from Albarton. it work just fine but sometimes it has to be a little bent to work. Otherwise it will show artifacts.
Nice vgas cards!
Those fan's were originally blue who would have thought, nothing worse than cleaning smokers electronic.
They are UV reactive on all Albatrons, not with LED like PixelView
The older graphics cards looked way cooler than the modern ones more great pc hardware in your large collection .
Ahhh... That reminds me that i also had FX 5200 in 2010. Barely enough to ran WOS Haulin lol
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This golden edition is beautiful :) where do you find such wonders :)
Привет! На 5900, интересно, под крышкой на кристалле термопаста или металл? И смысл было три кулера лепить на неё, работает как кофемолка и не греется, а третий так, на всякий случай стоит.😁 Спасибо, что такие железки показываешь.👌👍
they made a backup fan, becasue the fans failed frequently. my grandmother had a computer which the gpu fan hadnt been working for months or even years. no one noticed. it started to die after red and blue numbers poured onto the screen, probably due to overheating....
Dica quem desktop placa de vídeo bota virado de cabeça pra baixo a placa de vídeo esquenta as solda fica de cabeça embaixo aí rebailin já a solda com próprio esquentar da placa e gravidade a lei de aintem
I'm glad you can't smell through youtube because that FX 5900 must've smelled like 15 years of indoor smoking.
8:21 I wonder if it would be worth sticking that in an ultrasonic cleaner for a while.
Lets go Guys 100k Abbos for him
My first pc had a geforce fx 5700. I even played crysis on it.
I used to have exact Albatron FX 5700 many years ago. The heatsink design will forever be etched into my memory!
Someone had given it to me for free back in 2006, as I was just getting started with building PCs as a hobby. Unfortunately, that make and model of card was very prone to failure even when they were new. Within the first few times of getting mine up and running, I got a ton of video artifacts before the card outright died and refused to display anything.
These pixelveiw cards are cool as hell, where can I get one?
Kann ein voller Block Kupfer nicht mehr wärme aufnehmen und an die Finnen abgeben?
Beautiful video cards from brands that have already disappeared from the mass market...
Essas placas esquenta muito aí a solda saí do chip aí pode jogar fora, mas ela de cabeça prá paixo o chip esquenta e solda no lugar
Tenho uma GTX1660 super, e ela no jogo fecha o jogo e diz que falta desempenho, e não não sei o que fazer, como queria que o senhor morasse perto para me ajudar 😭
I have gpu has pcie x16 vs agp
4:36 ripped via?
This CPu is a little too slow for that GPUs test it on Athlon 64
man that was all nicotine on the cooler and fans right?
The Albatron fx 5700 has a neat cooler design, kind of an owl with a crown on it's head, fans are bit more quiet then the fx 5900 fans which i guess is due too the lower tdp & less use heh.
Bit of a bearing noise there from those or is it just the buzz from them being tiny fans ?
My dell inspiron 6000 windows xp laptop soldiers on still despite being a ati x300 chipset which was prone too failure.
(Using a non standard 90w HP charger missing the 400 ohm resistor in the ground pin so it limits cpu normally but can be forced out of it with crystalcpuid.
Made a profile shortcut on the desktop with the help of that program so i can just doubleclick that for full speed & a slight undervolt at 1.276v or 1.294v.)
Guess that's thanks too it being the slower pentium m cpu of the time 2 mb cache 1.5 ghz pentium m 715.
tried getting the leaked duke nukem 2001 build running on it but got the graphical glitches from the broken renderer & the direct x 8 to 9 dll needs a newer windows too start it seems but runs great on vulkan on my main pc that leaked build.
Also fixed up a laptop recently from 2012 but hey 25$ too have it up & running fine isn't that bad. Samsung 3 series laptop with an amd a8 4500m & a dedicated hd 7670m as gpu 1x4 gb ram currently as i put those in my lenovo t420 a few years ago. & a random 120 gb hdd for now. With the windows 7 usb 3.0 patch i installed that rather then 8.1 or windows 10 too make it lighter too run. with the rather low res 1366x768 screen it hit the 300 fps cap on half-life 2 pretty easily so much faster then the hd 3000 graphics of the lenovo t420 lol.
Those fans were bad like new .. triple bad after xxx hours 🙂
@@RETROHardware Guess you haven't collected any more laptops ?
Or not your kind of thing too collect besides that old 386 dell & that military laptop you showed on the channel 2 years back ?
Might be fun too check out the early Alienware laptops for example or perhaps some old Clevo laptops that had upgrade possibilities like mxm slots for the graphics card & desktop processors on a few models a few years back.
Laptops ... I have only few VIA C7s and maybe 5 others yeah Dell 386 and army ... I have no place and to much interest.
Last laptop I bought was with Transmeta CPU year ago, faulty one ... thats all.
@@Mini-z1994 The Dothan pentium M can undervolt like mad when you use something like RM-Clock. At 800mhz they will run as low as .7 volts. And at about 1.5 should be able to do around 1.25. At least my 2ghz model does. At above 1.5ghz it wont undervolt too far though. And at 1ghz the stock voltage was 1.1! They had so much more potential.
isn't the geforce fx hold back by the p3 ? i think a athlon xp or p4 s.478 system would be more fitting for the fx ...also the lag of agp8x and single channel sd ram and the slow clocks of the p3
yes, FX5700 and higher should go with P4 / Celeron 2ghz minimum
Installed setup was lying around. Everytime is something slow, here CPU, in other test is overpowered CPU ... main point was clean and save cards, not roasting them for 100% :-)
I agree I had Duron 1800 mhz and FX5200 64 mb and I scored just about 7000 on mark01. Later on I had FX5900XT and i think I scored something between 11 and 12k. Mark01 was very CPU sensitive
Price 5900XT in 2003 year unreal)
Don't see these much anymore if at all and the pci-e are ever harder to find.
2.5 hours cleaning those fans wew, I bet they still stink like smoke too.
I cant smell almost anything since I got card ... I think that card was lying in box without use for a long time ... so bad smell run away :-)
If I were you I would clean the AGP connector first before testing.
I really don’t think you should replace thermal pads with thermal paste all the time, especially on the Memory.
Thank god we aren't able to smell that smokers' card.
CPU cooler also needs cleaning.
:-))) I know, Iam lazy to do it
show me your pc that you are using now teme work
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I used to have the FX5200 as a kid, and boy that card fn sucked
you probably had as many 64-bit crippled version. Some were even 133/166 on memory (so 50% slower from good one)
Full FX5200 128-bit with good memory was actualy good card (for the price, and fact, it is lowest line of all FX series).
Differance bandwidth of memory was like:
worse one: 64-bit 133 Mhz stock
good one: 128-bit 300 mhz overclocked.
It's like 6x more bandwith on good FX5200.
Would give +100% performance in games, if not more.
My real gaming started from Fx 5700 ..😥😓😁
That CPU may have been a real bottleneck to those GPU's. A gforce 4 4200 can hit >10000 on an athlon xp2100. I would not have expected the FX cards to score so close to each other in either the games or 3dmark. Those GPU"s were contemporary with P4C and Athlon XP Palomino and early Thoroughbred.
That was a strange result, considering that I got 7000 with my FX5200 64 mb.
@@Just_a_Lad 7000 for a 5200 should be about right if its on a higher end cpu and has proper chipset and driver support. Otherwise I tend to get low 6000's with mine. But mine isn't an ultra.
Mazec, že se ti to povedlo vyčistit. Skoro to vypadalo, jako by se s tou kartou míchaly sračky. Smokers edition je vždy zárukou řádné dřiny.
čistil jsem základní desku po tátovi kterej je kuřák, do původního vzhledu to nedáš nikdy, i po vyčištění je to na všech plastech vidět že je to od kuřáka, to samý grafika, všechny nálepky a plasty žlutý, když někdo prodává HW třeba na aukru tak by to tam podle mě měli psát jestli to měl kuřák nebo ne protože je to dost podstatná informace
Backup fan lol what ? Like they expecting it to fail ?