"Fem-coded" is so weird. Like, they're not allowed to say men and women are different, but then why make different characters if they're the same? But at the same time, they demand representation of female characters. Its the kind of word born of cognitive dissonance.
so, are Femboys Fem-coded? would changing all women into femboys be woman friendly content? tbh i can't comprehend almost half of this gender related slang, like with previous +size cosplayer, going about fem- something, do i need to get a degree in gender studies to understand internet now?
This wasn't stupidity or an accident, it was a deliberate attempt to smear the developers for going against the woke agenda. And also part of a campaign of targeted racism. Look at what's been happening lately with Stellar Blade, AC: Shadows and now Wukong. They want to destroy Asian culture and Asian companies.
"We're still waiting for the developers to adress the sexist remarks" We're still waiting for IGN to adress the blatantly obvious disningenuous translation.
It's a trap. They want "fem" representation in every game so they can have something else to complain about, like "too sexualized" or "not fem enough."
True. And they'll never complain about men being s*xualised either - they'll gladly accept tall, big, muscular shirtless dudes in the media they consume
If there's no fem component, then there's no pretense they can exploit in order to take control of the IP's content. That pretense is vague and contradictory on purpose. It means there's no standard to satisfy. They act like they're here to solve a problem, but that problem doesn't exist, therefore they can stay in charge, by hopping from one issue to the next, forever. It's a manufactured forever-war.
I’m still blown away by how they say a virtual girl wearing revealing clothing in stellar blade is sexualizing women. But then they’ll turn around & say that it’s “empowering” when women do the same thing irl. Like, make it make sense.
I am a Chinese girl that bought a copy of this game for presale. I don't know about other places but for our school, we were required to read the original novel, "Journey to the West", which this game is based on. If they change the genders of some characters that are canonically male, I will actually refund my copy. Also, there were film adaptations of "Journey to the West" in Japan and Korea where they changed the genders a main character; those adaptation were very poorly received in China (one of them was rated 2.4/10 on a popular Chinese film review site with the lowest possible rating being 2/10 if I remember correctly.)
@@phreshxmetal "Journey to the West" (西游记) is one of the most famous books in China. "Journey to the West", "Outlaws of the Marsh", "Romance of the Three Kingdom", and "Dream of the Red Chamber" are referred to together as the 四大名著, which means the "Four Greatest Classics (of Chinese Literature)". This game is definitely heavily inspired by the characters (especially the enemies) and locations, but I think they will come up with a unique plot.
most journey to the west adaptations that japan changed the genders of the 4 travelers were almost all lewd, of course chinese people would be pissed, even one of the adaptation with the same genders are being turned into hot guys for no reason just to cater to female audience, it's kinda cringe to read for people who actually read the actual story
They'd have to admit they are wrong, something these types are vehemently against.
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If they admit that the whole controversy is based on an intentional mistranslation then they will not be able to milk articles about the game until they find another Asian develop game to target. This is how they make money now, so they will not stop until it affects them financially.
Bro Americans don’t even care, let alone Chinese people or corporations 😂 The only one here that cares are a few people on the Internet that just wanna jump on the next virtue signal train, and the DEI hired activists working at these corpos.
The original plot of "Journey to the West," the source material for "Black Myth: Wukong," is about four monks traveling to the Western Heaven to retrieve scriptures, encountering various demons along the way. The game also features all sorts of animals and monks. However, IGN loudly exclaimed, "There's no female character in the game's demo!"🤣🤣
Wu Kong is a six-ear-macaque, one of the four spiritual primates that do not belong to any of the ten categories that all beings in the universe are classified under, so technically speaking it is an endangered species, which could be said Wu Kong can be consider as a minority.
Sigh being a female gamer can be frustrating at times because of clowns like this. Ultimately I only care about a game being fun, if you go in bearing some form of representation metric you're playing a game in bad faith and have no business playing it at all. As a chinese my only other hope is that they exhibit the culture authentically/show what makes the novel so beloved which I have 0 concerns about.
@@Quintessence4444 Making false statements that can damage someones reputation is defamation so if IGN decides to double down on their stupidity then they can definitely get slapped. Actually they probably already did double down by saying they're backing these "mistranslated" statements.
@@Quintessence4444 While it isn't illegal per say, I do hope there's grounds for suing if the article stays up. They could've feigned ignorance on that horrible mistranslation and taken down the article, however I do believe the translation and entire article itself is grounds for defamation as she makes many claims that have no viable proof or source, and are pulled right out of her ass. Then again given the difference in laws between countries i'm unsure if an international lawsuit would be possible, hopefully it would be though.
One thing to be noted is that in the original story, Wukong came out of a rock. Not sure if biology have distinction between female rock and male rock, but Waking is not gendered throughout the story, in which at the end Wukong became Buddha, which is also not gendered.
@@Mare_Man If we are being pedantic, the term would be better translated to chief/leader/head of gang, to refer to Wukong's status as the head/ruler of the monkey population. So the original term in Chinese is not really gendered. But honestly "monkey king" is a much more straightforward and more badass sounding than "monkey leader", and it is really not that off as a translation, so it is understandable that they go with this translation.
Yeah, as a native Chinese speaker, that first few lines are kinda like an equivalence of the dev told the hypers to "stop dickriding me and my team so hard" because he knew they still had to work hard to develop and improve the game as he pointed out lots of pitfalls at that time. It has absolutely no sexism undertone whatsoever. It might be inappropriate if he said that during a formal interview or press, but he simply just made a post on his own social media account. And he never brandishes himself as some moral role model that the IGN critics think they are.
1, Wukong was born from a stone, no gender, so it can be assumed to be one of any gender, belonging to LGBT+ ultimate gender form 2, Wukong was rasied by natural , no parents, is an orphan, belongs to the vulnerable group 3, Wukong is a monkey. including the six-ear macaque and other counts, there are a total of 4 in the world, belonging to the minority . 4, Wukong is also a animal, It should be protected by the international animal protection organization. 5, Wukong was once besieged by one hundred thousand heavenly soldiers, belongs to the war survivors 6, Wukong served to defeat Buddha, at least equivalent to a cardinal, belongs to religious people 7, Wukong served in Buddhism, Buddhism in the feudal period vegetarian, belongs to the vegetarian 8, Wukong lives in the flower and fruit Mountain, Is a primitive forest, perennial afforestation (construction of homes), belongs to the environmentalist 9, Wukong fight in a human world, belongs to the incomplete evolution of the disabled
No need to subject yourself to their insanity to prove a point. He is the "monkey king" not the "Nonbinary monkey of a monarchy". Just accept they are insane and continue with your normal life.
To elaborate on the "only 4 monkeys", there are apparently 4 celestial monkeys in Journey to the West that don't fit into any categories such as animal, deity, human etc. They are the Stone-Monkey of Numinous Wisdom (wukong), the Red-Buttocked Horse-Monkey, the Long-Armed Ape-Monkey, and the Six-Eared Macaque.
Its great marketing, really. I haven't heard of the game before this mess, I'm not even the target demographic for it, but now I'm buying it out of spite to support the devs that stood up for themselves instead of bending the knee.
@@laser__unicorn Absolutely same. I'm on Linux and so there's a hypothetical possibility that maybe I might not actually be able to play the game, but I'm still buying it just to support the dev team.
Clearly the correct thing to do, considering this is the first time I heard about this one year old "controversy" and when I was watching summer games fest reactions everyone I have seen was excited for the game. Not a single person gave a shit
I am a woman and people other than family and friends are always surprised I have a ps5 and love gaming. My current favorite is still DD2. I guess I'm on NG++++++ now. Developers shouldn't cave to the demands of others. How does she make herself the victim after all of the garbage she wrote? IGN should fire her and honestly just get rid of the media journalism portion of the company. The game reviewers and journalists seem in such conflict of each other leaving me really confused about that company. So much that I would like to see them in the same room and argue it out.
That miss translation is fkn insane. They completely turned a humble and humorous gentleman into a pervert. What kind of world are we living in? And she’s demanding this guy to apologize to her… man I can’t take this shit anymore
If non-English speakers did the exact same way of translating and applied it how Americans speak -- with the frequent use of words like "f*ck you", "b*tch", "kiss my *ss", and many others -- people would expect nothing but extreme degeneracy from them. Not exactly sure if IGN is extremely lazy, extremely dumb, or both. Maybe both.
Neither do i But aparently games became so expensive to be made than anything bellow 10 is worth review bombing and deaththreats 😂 7 was good game back in ps2 days no? Not many had 10 outside maybe San Andreas @@megaham1552
As a Chinese, I feel very angry. This "reporter" is full of discrimination and arrogance towards Asians and Buddhism. The game content shown by Wukong takes place in a temple where Buddhist monks live, and of course the monks are all male! She is completely unprepared to understand the background of the game! Totally disrespectful to Asian culture and religion!
@@doecheldorfnah, there’s a whole Chinese community here on youtube, also on twitter and so many mainland Chinese use instagram. They are not north korea as much as we were told they are lol
@@doecheldorf Bruh, Singaporean Chinese here, there are many chinese people living outside China. Have you ever heard of Taiwan? Not every Chinese person stands by the actions of the CCP. Please be more tactful.
i dunno. i havent heard anything particularly bad about gamespot. though i couldve easily missed anything. but yeah, IGN, Kotaku, gamerant and others like it sure are ruining their reputation and bringing down games journalism as a whole.
To add a bit context about the lead dev’s post as someone who speaks Chinese: he actually went out of his way to write the post that way, a funny limerick - every line in that post rhymes in Chinese! This is the kind of dev gamers dream of these days: dedicated to making games, having fun doing it, thoughtful and engaging in his communication with fans where his talent also shines through.
I find it extremely ironic that people who fight against cultural misappropriation can't translate a tweet without offending hundreds of thousands of users
These people DO cultural appropriation. Look at AC: Shadows, the whole game should be a celebration of Japanese culture and heritage and they made the main character a black guy. Then they failed to even put the correct Japanese characters on the merch they made.
@@MarkDeSade100 I'm pretty sure the black guy from AC: Shadows is a Japanese figure called Yasuke, a black samurai/retainer. I can see why Ubisoft decided to make him one of the protags as he does stand out in history. I don't really think making Yasuke a protag is that bad an idea, though; not very good at representing Japanese culture. About the Japanese characters on the merch, that's pretty bad.
Licking boots? Or are they want to lick something else, which can't be spelled appropiated on UA-cam without getting the comment shadowbanned? WIth those "Folks" nowadays, i can't be certain anymore.
So one of the mistranslations was basically, if i could interpret it easier here, "people were brownnosing/kissing my ass too much so its hard to hire people" and then the journalists were basically going, "the game is sexist cuz he said ass"
It was one of the common chinese ...well not quite idiom, but common saying, or slang, or meme. Yeah the chinese can be rather colourful and descriptive in the use of language.
It's like saying "This TV sucks!" and reporting it as "They expressed a desire that the TV have a mouth, so that they could insert their sexual organ into it and have the television pleasure them".
There is no way that any reasonable journalist would not look at these translated statements and assume that there might be something lost in translation, and that maybe they should consult a native speaker or two before publishing. In fact, I bet a traditional newspaper editor would demand it before they allowed it to reach print.
So Rebecca Valentine from IGN used Google to translate the developers native language, and then didn’t bother to run that translation by someone that actually speaks the language: she just went with it and published the most salacious crap. Sounds like great journalism to me!
@@RealBadGaming52 I don't know what she used to look like, but these days she looks like she's a nose piercing and pink hair dye away from screaming "ACAB" at her 15 cats.
Google translation did actually translate the words correctly, the literal words he said were indeed about being sucked off until he couldn't ejaculate anymore, but there's also strong context clues that you can use to understand what the sentence is actually talking about even if you don't speak chinese that she chose to ignore.
Games journalists haven't been games journalists for a very long time. Most of them are activists who got into games journalism to push their activism. They hate gaming and that's reflected in every article they write.
@@Entreped They are all desperate to be big time activist writers for some national paper or magazine. Write big, bombastic pieces and hope you strike gold. The Woke culture b.s. is "trendy" right now, and mentally deficient and morally shallow people always blindly chase trends in the hope of money and recognition.
As a native mandarin speaker, I believe that using information gaps and language barriers to create bias and discrimination is absolutely shameful. There are many slang words on the Chinese Internet that are difficult for non-native speakers to understand, which may lead to prejudice and misunderstanding. Some people realize this and take advantage of this situation with ulterior motives
you'll never know how fun it is untill you get that goddam random stick that loooooookkk cool you become some early year dragonball cosplay out of nowhere, miss those days...
I have 2 questions for Rebekah: 1. She claimed she was told Game Science studio will have a statement for her. Give the name and position of the person who promised her the statement. 2. Rebekah claimed that it is TRUE there were several sexist comments made by the devs, then SHOW THE RECEIPTS! At this rate, she keeps crying wolf and no one will believe her or IGN.
1. It was probably something along the lines of her asking 100 questions about the meeting and the person responding told her that they will explain everything on site. Or maybe she used the same "translation" she used to find the sexist comments. 2. She will claim that the "harassment" that ensued after her false allegations is a proof of the sexist comments and also justifies her actions. It is typical strategy I punch you and if you retaliate it means you were always a violent brute so I was justified in punching you in the first place. Nothing will happen to her and at the game release she will write another hit piece using her previous slander as "established facts" to throw even more accusations.
Did she do any basic research on Journey to the West because lack of "fem-coded" characters bffr. Then again people like her expect creators to change age old material purely for the sake of diversity.
TBH if I ever had a slanderous hit piece like that printed about something I made I would absolutely be tempted to have them take the time to travel to me and then tell them to F off once they show up.
As a chinese, the first few lines about the erection thing is a "metaphor"...frankly speaking it's not a good metaphor since the language is not that appropriate, but it has nothing related to sexism (in mandarain there is a LOT of slang related to penis😅) Meanwhile it is NORMAL that the game contains little/none female characters since in the book JOURNEY TO THE WEST, none of the main characters are female cuz they are a group of monks. The only female characters in the book are either villagers they met or female yaoguai(monster) or female buddha.
Chinese representation* Edit: Black Myth Wukong is a video game inspired by the film 'Journey to the West' set in mythological China. Not Japan and Korea. Oriental culture is NOT representative of the whole Asia. I explicitly said 'Chinese representation' because the game takes place in mythological China. Not anywhere else. Because this version of monkey deity is of China's. I'm baffled by these name calling and insults out of nowhere. Tldr; wukong is NOT representative of the whole Asia. And so does AC Shadows. My culture doesn't have magical monkeys, dragons and ninjas. This is coming from an Asian. 🙃
Tbf the hit piece is from a year ago, so unless SBI said something along the lines of "there won't be more articles like that if you comply", which we currently have no proof of, then we can't say for sure that they were in cahoots in this instance. IGN is still grossly incompetent regardless though.
@MegaGlassguy exactly, which is why it should be an easy accusation to put to bed... I guess it makes it all the more ironic they are going after this dev for accusations as well and getting all bet out of shape when they are given no story. Which is to say, either it's their gross incompetence, or perhaps, where there is smoke there's fire.
Almost like if they lied about any link, it can be a liability in court. IGN 100% can get sued for defamation for this, but I doubt the devs even care to (honestly, why bother with these people)
They better be eating the gravy off these devs for allowing them to test the game. Most devs/publishers usually blacklist you for anything negative and IGN went as far as trying to defame them with lies.
The affected party is a chinese company, american courts are never going to let the game dev win and America would never let a ruling in a chinese court stick to an american company.
oh, they take it seriously. they wouldnt be trying this hard to paint things in the light theyre trying to paint them. the issue is, theyre creating false narratives and problems, making them sound like a much bigger deal and something the gaming community wants, in order to sway game developers to pander to said issues. which ofc means these studios will hire consultants like SBI. if youve seen older clips, you'll know the cycle. its a huge scam and i dont understand the end goal.
I agree, but at the same time that wouldn't make much sense. Game journalism is just following in the steps of regular journalists / media. The gov't (or the same dirt bags that also bribe our gov't) are the ones supporting the massive psyop known as the mainstream media, why would they turn around and attack gaming journalists doing the same schmutt? In fact if I were a betting man I'd say the same people are responsible for both.
Why does every game has to have an exact 50/50 split of male and female characters. Oh and also have some people of color mixed in. These people don't get that if you have one game that is primarily male characters and another game that is primarily female characters, you still get representation of both. Not every game has to be the perfect mix of genders/races/politics or whatever, and not every game has to be for everyone.
fun fact is "people of color" only apply for black people. They must not be a bad guy, or at least a guy that doesn't act cowardly or something. You can see a POS asian, latino, arab, or white in a video game but you never see a black guy that act like a POS.
@@okanda259dont talk too quick u should go too africa their own people are keeping slaves couse of debt it’s disgusting saw a docu about a mother who got sick and a richer person paid for everything too save her now her and her whole family are slave labour its her and her husband and 2 kids and apparently thats legal in some countries i find it disgusting but dont think there isnt any of this going on why do u think there is sex work most of those get forced so they can pay off their debts also never go too china for surgery a head of surgery recently came out and there was literally organ harvesters on the official staff sorry for the long rant also i am DYSLEXIC srry for no punctuation 😂
"We expect EVERYONE, regardless of race, gender or culture, to adhere to OUR standards of what games should be like." That's basically what the person was saying, considering it's a Chinese developer. How mental can some of these people get?
You must undrestand, these articles are not for me nor you. The consumer is not important to them. Who gives a shit what IGN thinks. It's part of their scam. "Give us money and let us inject our politics in your game, or we write hit pieces that will get some nobodies on Twitter angry"
Saying that one Game Science dev's comment on the social media Weibo (shown in 0:16), which really was just a humble self-reflection with sarcastic and vulgar tones, is like saying that some native English speaker using the F word in their comments automatically means they are sex addicts. This is how ridiculous and laughable IGN's narrative looks to many Chinese speakers.
I’m a Chinese woman. Hi used sex as metaphor. What he says in context make sense, but that doesn’t mean the way he is saying things is right. When I read his sentences, I felt so uncomfortable. Rarely people on the internet, especially someone known talk like this. Stop making excuses for him.
Oh God, why must they forcibly add a female character into a story about Buddhism? In the original work from 500 years ago, Wukong and his companions were all Buddhist monks. According to Buddhist precepts, monks are required to refrain from eating meat, getting married, and forming any friendships or romantic relationships with women. For monks, these things must be avoided; they are meant to practice in the temple for their entire lives. Forcibly adding a female character seriously violates Buddhist precepts and distorts the historical context of the original work. This would anger the 2 billion Buddhists around the world. Do they know what they are doing? No Buddhist would ever allow Wukong to have a friendship or a sexual relationship with a female character. This is incredibly offensive to Buddhism. They should come forward and apologize.
Sounds like it's a bastardized word based on femme fatale maybe? Except what they would view as femme fatale would be a fat and ugly thunder thighs monster as main character. Like we've seen in some other "games" recently.
basically femme presenting i.e trans etc. because all games must be inclusive these days. cant have a game that isnt inclusive, even if it means destroying what the game is just to have that inclusivity. cant wait for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. these dumbass journalists are gonna be so mad with that game...
This is why so many modern women and liberals act they way they do. They've never been in real world situations, they live an artificial life inside a bubble. Nothing but consume this then that then the next thing, living in a bubble of ideals that are alien to the rest of the world. People used to slap sense into people for a reason but now you go to jail. The softening of America. It's actually a bit sad.
Woke game/movie criteria checklist: 1. Every character in the game has to be black or black focused else there is no diversity. 2. Every face has to be ugly, and everybody have to be fat and short. 3. Women are allowed to sexually harass men but not the other way around. (Suicide Squad is an example) 4. Good and logical story plots don't matter as long as gender blender, person with disability and sex scenes are artificially/forcefully inserted into the story. (The Eternals is an example) 5. True cultural representation does not matter as long as woke culture takes over. The list goes on.
The google translate isn't translating the character 被. This character is used to indicate something happening in the passive sense. It's also totally mistranslating the word 勃起 to mean "erection", when in reality it means "to get excited" or be "enthusiastic". So the translation says "be praised as the saviour of the industry" is an active sentence, when he means it in a passive sense, i.e. it just happened without any additional input from him. A better translation would be "I wanted to expand my circle and hire more people, but they just kept kissing my arse to the point where I lost my enthusiasm. I wanted to be honest and release a small trailer, but I ended up being praised as the saviour of the industry."
What I love about the dev is he is fully committed to his job. Like he doesn’t want to make a statement or push some agenda, he just wants to make a good game.
What astonishes me is how some public figures or brands still have a platform. Take Logan Paul for example, films a dead body, scams millions of people, etc. Yet he still has a platform and is successful. Actions really don't have consequences anymore. What a time we live in.
There is a reason for this: Logan Paul will hit back. I dont like him, he's an asshole, but controversy fuels him and he has a very vocal and angry following that will hit back. And ask for money and compensations. People like IGN or Kotaku think a chinese studio wont hit back. That's the whole point. They only attack the ones they percieve to be weaker. They could be talking about the real problems in the industry, but the people with the big money bags would say "stop it or you will be cancelled next".
I’m gonna defend Logan, who I cannot stand, for a second. Japan’s culture is so messed up, they have a forest that people travel to in order to commit suicide. Japan tries to hide this, so media is not allowed to report on it. But they don’t want people to have a better work life balance, so they keep pushing people while the suicide rate stays higher than anywhere else in the world. And you think the fucked up part of that is Logan Paul exposing that forest to the world, because he filmed someone’s lifeless corpse? So you want the suicide forest to continue to stay under a media blackout? You want everyone to be forced to never show images of the terrible reality that is Japan’s suicide culture, or be censored? I just want to make sure we’re on the same page here.
Well, as Asmongold has said in the past, content is king. If you can still produce a product that people want to consume, they won't care. It's why companies like Amazon (for their treatment of warehouse workers), Nestle (for their incomprehensible destruction of the environment) and pretty much every major clothing brand (they outsource their work to other countries that practically use indentured servitude) still function. Affordable products that provide a boost to quality of life. Logan provides entertainment to people for free. You can say that him filming a dead body was bad, but think about all the people who aren't saying anything and thought it was funny.
Its wild that IGN did nothing about the blatant lies they told but expect Game Science to retract and apologize for statements that were warped by IGN themselves
Indeed, they are the enemy and are well-known in the original novel. But even if they weren't enemies, it wouldn't matter. In the eyes of SBI, being beautiful is a crime, isn't it?
lol ign translated this on google translate, it said the same thing but when I translated it on chatgpt, aria, and some other traslation websites all of them got a more professional translation and nothing indecent. moral of the story is google translate is the worst translation thing in the world.
Let's all be thankful these people probably never even read the original Journey to the West book, otherwise they might call Wukong trans or bisexual because he transformed into human woman several times
The sad part, there's probably chinese people at IGN who can understand the original tweet but are too afraid to speak up cuz they'll probably get fired for appearing to support sexism.
I'd actually wager they don't. Despite screaming at the hilltops for DEI everywhere else, I guarantee you the staff make-up is 90% White, hyper-liberal women (who are straight by any sort of metric you wanna use, but call themselves "queer" anyway)
@@tris9596 nah i've been in this boat, there probably are one or two people who know this is false, and want to speak out when things like this happen, but also realize that it will cost them thier jobs without stopping anything. its a touch place to be
I've seen quite a few Chinese girl gamers excited about the game though. They were excited for the same things guy gamers were, they don't care about this "fem-coded" nonsense.
Story is also based on an Ancient Chinese mythology story "Journey to The West", which is a story about a bunch of dudes traveling (to India) to find ancient Buddhist scriptures. Indecently the name of the main character Sun Wukong, The Monkey King, is what the the character "Son Goku" is based on from Dragonball (which is its Japanese pronunciation).
@@KingMinishit has been a long time since I read the story I think wukong and his crew transformed to woman at one point and bugs and many other things. This is as diverse as a game can be😂
Let's not talk about micro-transactions, season passes, paid early access, pay to win loot boxes, unfinished games with $70 price tags, publishers pushing profits over quality of content at the expense of the consumer even if it shuts down successful game dev studios. Nope. Not enough women in games is the problem in the gaming industry. Fucking nailed it.
This is why translation is a *profession* and translators are *professionals*. People, especially journalists and decision makers, need stop thinking that machine translation is good enough. Machine translation will never be good enough.
@Interdimensional-CableTV Agents meaning humans? If so you should still support the original comment who simply stated the necessity of the human factor in important translations. We wouldnt want to start a war because one guy thought that machine translation would be good enough... xD
I‘m calling it: Asmongolds editor will be making a CoffeeZilla type UA-cam pretty soon where he will take apart all sorts of people and I am all here for it. LOL
I am Chinese, and after this issue arose, I attempted to find any discriminatory remarks or actions against women by "Game Science." However, I only found two relevant pieces of information. One is from a post by the founder on Weibo saying "licked to impotence," under which a female user expressed her discomfort with such remarks and stated she would not purchase the game in the future. Another user (not an employee of Game Science) countered that AAA games don't need female users. The other piece of information is an article published by the founder years ago, suggesting that games targeting male players should not overly consider female preferences. Additionally, there were some vulgar and sexually explicit elements in recruitment ads published by the founder many years ago. However, I did not see any direct insults or misogynistic remarks.
Oh they are villains alright. Just not super ones. The difference? PRESENTATION! Another thing to add is that I have always hated IGN since their ORAS review with the dumb reason of “Too much water.” They are literally Team Magma but worse.
How dare IGN still assume Wukong is a male? Wukong was born from a stone, Wukong does not have a gender, Wukong can be transformed into a male or female or anything, IGN should address Wukong using “THEY” pronoun 😅
There is technically a "female" Wukong in Psikyo's Gunbird shmup game. A red-haired woman whose close range attack is to extend forth a wood-colored pole.
As someone who read shitty manga and manhua translations on occasions, this 100% checks out. Sometimes meanings get lost in translation, and the actual translations make no sense whatsoever.
they really were doing this for clickbait and attention and were expecting the studio to response with anything but they didn't and IGN got heavy backlash so they went with victimhood as a defense
In fact, in the eyes of the Chinese people, Sun Wukong is a character full of resistance. He saves ordinary people who are suffering and resists those who have power and bad characters. Sun Wukong is not because ING has become so just, but because it is already like this，and，Sun Wukong's first line of dialogue every time he saves the weak is: "Hi brother, you should have endured immense injustice. It's okay, now I'm here."
"Fem-coded" is so weird. Like, they're not allowed to say men and women are different, but then why make different characters if they're the same? But at the same time, they demand representation of female characters. Its the kind of word born of cognitive dissonance.
Its not about making sense it's about ruining things you like
Because all of this crazy shit is, in my mind, to basically erase women. Think about it, men in women's sports equals, no women's sports.
@@PALACIO254 This kind of rhetoric is pointless. Of course this lady thinks she's making sense. She even thinks she has a point.
Its the same as 'female presenting', because apparently we need to change all speech to be trans inclusive.
so, are Femboys Fem-coded? would changing all women into femboys be woman friendly content? tbh i can't comprehend almost half of this gender related slang, like with previous +size cosplayer, going about fem- something, do i need to get a degree in gender studies to understand internet now?
I don’t understand how IGN is still relevant.
They're not
They know that the only way to be relevant is to be like a stereotyplical expected of twittards, to be a nuisance...
What's IGN?
They have a borderline monopoly over the biggest review sites.
@@BeeWaifu IGNorance
Dude used google translate and thought it'd be correct word to word, that's some next level delusion and reckless conduct.
"journalism"
This wasn't stupidity or an accident, it was a deliberate attempt to smear the developers for going against the woke agenda. And also part of a campaign of targeted racism. Look at what's been happening lately with Stellar Blade, AC: Shadows and now Wukong. They want to destroy Asian culture and Asian companies.
Who is that old guy who's speaking and is not Asmongold?!
@@nuke7 His editor
@@Casual_ND but why is he so old.. ? :O
"We're still waiting for the developers to adress the sexist remarks"
We're still waiting for IGN to adress the blatantly obvious disningenuous translation.
No... no, we are not. They won't, and it doesn't matter.
Well, hello there 👀
EXACTLY. Boy I sure am tired of all this holier than thou rhetoric these days.
@@brianviktor8212yes, let them drown in their own shit.
Honestly, IGN should be sued for the mistranslation and that article.
It's a trap. They want "fem" representation in every game so they can have something else to complain about, like "too sexualized" or "not fem enough."
They are ugly, so they don’t allow others are beautiful
True. And they'll never complain about men being s*xualised either - they'll gladly accept tall, big, muscular shirtless dudes in the media they consume
Only Antonio Failble is the perfect balance.
If there's no fem component, then there's no pretense they can exploit in order to take control of the IP's content. That pretense is vague and contradictory on purpose. It means there's no standard to satisfy. They act like they're here to solve a problem, but that problem doesn't exist, therefore they can stay in charge, by hopping from one issue to the next, forever. It's a manufactured forever-war.
I’m still blown away by how they say a virtual girl wearing revealing clothing in stellar blade is sexualizing women. But then they’ll turn around & say that it’s “empowering” when women do the same thing irl. Like, make it make sense.
I am a Chinese girl that bought a copy of this game for presale. I don't know about other places but for our school, we were required to read the original novel, "Journey to the West", which this game is based on. If they change the genders of some characters that are canonically male, I will actually refund my copy. Also, there were film adaptations of "Journey to the West" in Japan and Korea where they changed the genders a main character; those adaptation were very poorly received in China (one of them was rated 2.4/10 on a popular Chinese film review site with the lowest possible rating being 2/10 if I remember correctly.)
this is interesting information, thanks for sharing! i didn't know that it was based on a book
@@phreshxmetal "Journey to the West" (西游记) is one of the most famous books in China. "Journey to the West", "Outlaws of the Marsh", "Romance of the Three Kingdom", and "Dream of the Red Chamber" are referred to together as the 四大名著, which means the "Four Greatest Classics (of Chinese Literature)".
This game is definitely heavily inspired by the characters (especially the enemies) and locations, but I think they will come up with a unique plot.
@@phreshxmetal Journey to The West was written in the Ming Dynasty,and that's hundreds of years ago😉
@@phreshxmetal This book was written in Shakespeare's time.
most journey to the west adaptations that japan changed the genders of the 4 travelers were almost all lewd, of course chinese people would be pissed, even one of the adaptation with the same genders are being turned into hot guys for no reason just to cater to female audience, it's kinda cringe to read for people who actually read the actual story
Ironic how they haven’t addressed the mistranslation 😂
they legit just doubled down-tripled down on it. you cant make this shit up.
They'd have to admit they are wrong, something these types are vehemently against.
If they admit that the whole controversy is based on an intentional mistranslation then they will not be able to milk articles about the game until they find another Asian develop game to target. This is how they make money now, so they will not stop until it affects them financially.
They won't. They will rather die than admit they were wrong in this subject.
They'd rather choke on gasoline than admit they were wrong
They think a Chinese company is going to care 😂
As someone from the West who plays Hoyoverse gacha games. They never listen to the West.
@@goldensaiyan4Good
@@goldensaiyan4 very good
China's based in that department
Bro Americans don’t even care, let alone Chinese people or corporations 😂 The only one here that cares are a few people on the Internet that just wanna jump on the next virtue signal train, and the DEI hired activists working at these corpos.
The original plot of "Journey to the West," the source material for "Black Myth: Wukong," is about four monks traveling to the Western Heaven to retrieve scriptures, encountering various demons along the way. The game also features all sorts of animals and monks. However, IGN loudly exclaimed, "There's no female character in the game's demo!"🤣🤣
Sun Wukong was transformed from a stone. As we all know, stone has no gender. IGN saying that Sun Wukong is a male is actually a kind of sexism.
@@黄微-j2j Boom, roasted.
Wu Kong is a six-ear-macaque, one of the four spiritual primates that do not belong to any of the ten categories that all beings in the universe are classified under, so technically speaking it is an endangered species, which could be said Wu Kong can be consider as a minority.
@@黄微-j2j Indeed! They're assuming Wukong's gender!
@@黄微-j2j Even so, what's their problem!? Hope these companies don't bend the knee to these clowns.
If a woman buys this game is because she likes it as it is, not because of how many ''femme-coded'' characters are in the game lmao...
Being a female gamer can be frustrating because of clowns like this
If a woman buys this game, it's because "she's been too indoctrinated in the patriarchal system"
Would it really be the end of the world if we had ONE game without any women? How many women is that going to harm?
Sigh being a female gamer can be frustrating at times because of clowns like this. Ultimately I only care about a game being fun, if you go in bearing some form of representation metric you're playing a game in bad faith and have no business playing it at all. As a chinese my only other hope is that they exhibit the culture authentically/show what makes the novel so beloved which I have 0 concerns about.
@@Govakhelsborne But that kills women man 😭😭😭
She should be sacked for writing & promoting misinformation. Article should be withdrawn.
Nah that's not enough, mistranslating and slandering someone like that has to be illegal.
She's doing her Kommissar work and will be promoted for it.
@@Quintessence4444 Making false statements that can damage someones reputation is defamation so if IGN decides to double down on their stupidity then they can definitely get slapped. Actually they probably already did double down by saying they're backing these "mistranslated" statements.
Its a Video Game Journalist site, they HIRE people who do that
@@Quintessence4444 While it isn't illegal per say, I do hope there's grounds for suing if the article stays up. They could've feigned ignorance on that horrible mistranslation and taken down the article, however I do believe the translation and entire article itself is grounds for defamation as she makes many claims that have no viable proof or source, and are pulled right out of her ass. Then again given the difference in laws between countries i'm unsure if an international lawsuit would be possible, hopefully it would be though.
One thing to be noted is that in the original story, Wukong came out of a rock. Not sure if biology have distinction between female rock and male rock, but Waking is not gendered throughout the story, in which at the end Wukong became Buddha, which is also not gendered.
Monkey _King_ seems pretty gendered to me, unless there's some gender neutral term for a ruler in Chinese that was used and mistranslated
@@Mare_Man If we are being pedantic, the term would be better translated to chief/leader/head of gang, to refer to Wukong's status as the head/ruler of the monkey population. So the original term in Chinese is not really gendered. But honestly "monkey king" is a much more straightforward and more badass sounding than "monkey leader", and it is really not that off as a translation, so it is understandable that they go with this translation.
@@Mare_Man There's no evidence that wukong has reproductive organs at all. The title 'monkey king' is the idea from another mortal monkey.
@@Mare_Man Wait till you find out the original story is Chinese and the word king isn't.....
You can't spell Ignorant without IGN
Gigachad 5head move
Wow I really like that, it’s actually perfect for who they are
I might use this in future😂😂
Copy - Paste much?
@@naisyjohnsyes just like your comment.
Yeah, as a native Chinese speaker, that first few lines are kinda like an equivalence of the dev told the hypers to "stop dickriding me and my team so hard" because he knew they still had to work hard to develop and improve the game as he pointed out lots of pitfalls at that time. It has absolutely no sexism undertone whatsoever. It might be inappropriate if he said that during a formal interview or press, but he simply just made a post on his own social media account. And he never brandishes himself as some moral role model that the IGN critics think they are.
Best translation. Literally and metaphorically. It was vulgar, not sexist.
How dare he. 😂
Makes sense. Doesn't want to end up in No Man Sky situation.
It's China, there is nothing inappropriate in saying that. It's inappropriate only in woke dystopian USA.
If she google translated it and it fit her narrative, why bother checking if it is correct xD
1, Wukong was born from a stone, no gender, so it can be assumed to be one of any gender, belonging to LGBT+ ultimate gender form
2, Wukong was rasied by natural , no parents, is an orphan, belongs to the vulnerable group
3, Wukong is a monkey. including the six-ear macaque and other counts, there are a total of 4 in the world, belonging to the minority .
4, Wukong is also a animal, It should be protected by the international animal protection organization. 5, Wukong was once besieged by one hundred thousand heavenly soldiers, belongs to the war survivors
6, Wukong served to defeat Buddha, at least equivalent to a cardinal, belongs to religious people 7, Wukong served in Buddhism, Buddhism in the feudal period vegetarian, belongs to the vegetarian 8, Wukong lives in the flower and fruit Mountain, Is a primitive forest, perennial afforestation (construction of homes), belongs to the environmentalist
9, Wukong fight in a human world, belongs to the incomplete evolution of the disabled
No need to subject yourself to their insanity to prove a point. He is the "monkey king" not the "Nonbinary monkey of a monarchy". Just accept they are insane and continue with your normal life.
😂 the MVP brother 👍
goated coment
To elaborate on the "only 4 monkeys", there are apparently 4 celestial monkeys in Journey to the West that don't fit into any categories such as animal, deity, human etc. They are the Stone-Monkey of Numinous Wisdom (wukong), the Red-Buttocked Horse-Monkey, the Long-Armed Ape-Monkey, and the Six-Eared Macaque.
They will talk about EVERYTHING EXCEPT the fucking game itsself
Exactly, because they know perfectly well they can't.
Its great marketing, really. I haven't heard of the game before this mess, I'm not even the target demographic for it, but now I'm buying it out of spite to support the devs that stood up for themselves instead of bending the knee.
That would require the journalists to play the game lol.
I mean remember Cuphead? You’re asking way to much of a game journalist when you ask them to play a game.
@@laser__unicorn Absolutely same. I'm on Linux and so there's a hypothetical possibility that maybe I might not actually be able to play the game, but I'm still buying it just to support the dev team.
Employee : boss, IGN trash talk about us.
Dev : who?
Employee : IGN.
Dev : Who?
wtf is an ign
IGN who? Anyways WUKONG WUKONG WUKONG WUKONG!!!!?? WOOOOOOO MONKEY KING!!!? 🐒
Dev : Who? ... Cares? :)
Clearly the correct thing to do, considering this is the first time I heard about this one year old "controversy" and when I was watching summer games fest reactions everyone I have seen was excited for the game. Not a single person gave a shit
@@otneyat in game name
I am a woman and people other than family and friends are always surprised I have a ps5 and love gaming. My current favorite is still DD2. I guess I'm on NG++++++ now. Developers shouldn't cave to the demands of others. How does she make herself the victim after all of the garbage she wrote? IGN should fire her and honestly just get rid of the media journalism portion of the company. The game reviewers and journalists seem in such conflict of each other leaving me really confused about that company. So much that I would like to see them in the same room and argue it out.
This channel is slowly turning from "Asmongold clips" to "Editor reacts to Asmongold clips". And I'm not upset about it.
This is editor’s world and we’re just living in it
Editor seems more investigative than bald man, so I can't complain
Channel orbiters have been getting more relevant these past few years
Editor is based.
Asmongold is just a content medium for editor, he's the mastermind behind all at that point.
That miss translation is fkn insane. They completely turned a humble and humorous gentleman into a pervert. What kind of world are we living in? And she’s demanding this guy to apologize to her… man I can’t take this shit anymore
Monolingual English speakers and pretending that translation software is able to translate idiomatic expressions and intent
Name a more iconic duo
@@jakehr3 It can if they actually use a proper translation tool and not whatever the f they used.
If non-English speakers did the exact same way of translating and applied it how Americans speak -- with the frequent use of words like "f*ck you", "b*tch", "kiss my *ss", and many others -- people would expect nothing but extreme degeneracy from them.
Not exactly sure if IGN is extremely lazy, extremely dumb, or both. Maybe both.
@@Caydiem There's also a good chance they actually made their own bullshit translation to support their agenda
@@Caydiemor just ask a Chinese person
They refused to pay the PROTECTION MONEY to Sweet Baby.
That's why IGN made the article.
> Be IGN Journalist
> Goes to a game demo
> Doesnt care about gameplay
> "Where are the WOMEN" •`_´•
> Slander Game Studio
> 7/10
I don't consider a 7 out of 10 a bad score to be fair
Neither do i
But aparently games became so expensive to be made than anything bellow 10 is worth review bombing and deaththreats 😂
7 was good game back in ps2 days no? Not many had 10 outside maybe San Andreas @@megaham1552
The ironic thing is even if they get a game with a female protagonist if she's too hot they'll still bash on her. you can't please them
@@megaham1552 because it is good by definition xd
that's the weird thing
@@megaham1552 Thats the joke IGN gives everything a 7/10
As a Chinese, I feel very angry. This "reporter" is full of discrimination and arrogance towards Asians and Buddhism. The game content shown by Wukong takes place in a temple where Buddhist monks live, and of course the monks are all male! She is completely unprepared to understand the background of the game! Totally disrespectful to Asian culture and religion!
i thought china didn't have free acces to youtube. You might come across someone criticising the ccp!
@@doecheldorfnah, there’s a whole Chinese community here on youtube, also on twitter and so many mainland Chinese use instagram. They are not north korea as much as we were told they are lol
@@doecheldorf Bruh, Singaporean Chinese here, there are many chinese people living outside China. Have you ever heard of Taiwan? Not every Chinese person stands by the actions of the CCP. Please be more tactful.
@@doecheldorf pfft, tell us you never travel abroad without telling us that. Common ignorance statement of the west.
Troll,attention seeker @@doecheldorf
3:50 god those animations are so fucking buttery smooth
IGN and all major journalists lost their way and creditability a long time ago.
i dunno. i havent heard anything particularly bad about gamespot. though i couldve easily missed anything. but yeah, IGN, Kotaku, gamerant and others like it sure are ruining their reputation and bringing down games journalism as a whole.
they're all mentally ill by woke prpaganda
cReDiTaBiLiTy
😁
what about me tho
I might use this in future😂😂
To add a bit context about the lead dev’s post as someone who speaks Chinese: he actually went out of his way to write the post that way, a funny limerick - every line in that post rhymes in Chinese! This is the kind of dev gamers dream of these days: dedicated to making games, having fun doing it, thoughtful and engaging in his communication with fans where his talent also shines through.
Well it wasn't funny for women around the world literally getting murdered because of his post.
@@Mytelefe It was mistranslated, and the hyperbole of women dying because of these words is nonsense, but you know that troll.
@@Mytelefeplease tell me it's sarcasm 🙏
@@Mytelefe No it didn't. Tell me, how do you get by day to day constantly feeling like such a victim?
@@Mytelefe You are getting confused. Eve from Stellar Blade is the doing this.
I find it extremely ironic that people who fight against cultural misappropriation can't translate a tweet without offending hundreds of thousands of users
These people DO cultural appropriation. Look at AC: Shadows, the whole game should be a celebration of Japanese culture and heritage and they made the main character a black guy. Then they failed to even put the correct Japanese characters on the merch they made.
@@MarkDeSade100 YEP that's why I said "misappropriation", they say they respect different cultures but actually respect no one
@@MarkDeSade100 I'm pretty sure the black guy from AC: Shadows is a Japanese figure called Yasuke, a black samurai/retainer. I can see why Ubisoft decided to make him one of the protags as he does stand out in history. I don't really think making Yasuke a protag is that bad an idea, though; not very good at representing Japanese culture. About the Japanese characters on the merch, that's pretty bad.
You know why IGN slandered devs in the first place? Because they declined Sweet Baby's "help" and we all now how much IGN likes to lick boots
Exactly, it's a racket
Sweet Baby to IGN: Harass game developers who don't want to hire us, keep harassing until they're willing to pay $7M and I'll give you $1M!!!
Licking boots? Or are they want to lick something else, which can't be spelled appropiated on UA-cam without getting the comment shadowbanned?
WIth those "Folks" nowadays, i can't be certain anymore.
Great, my comment got "Shadowbanned".
Thx, youtube. You remind me very well, why i don't and never will pay for premium!
@@MrMuelltube Comments don't get shadowbanned. You got filtered because of an inability to type w/o aggression most likely lmao
So one of the mistranslations was basically, if i could interpret it easier here, "people were brownnosing/kissing my ass too much so its hard to hire people" and then the journalists were basically going, "the game is sexist cuz he said ass"
Exactly. IGN can't distinguish between being vulger and sexist
@orionmedivh5859 corporate ass kissing isnt vulgar ign willfully mistranslating stuff for a smear piece.
It was one of the common chinese ...well not quite idiom, but common saying, or slang, or meme.
Yeah the chinese can be rather colourful and descriptive in the use of language.
tbf they didn't say that, they said "According to questionable unnamed sources, several of their devs are sexists" Lmao
It's like saying "This TV sucks!" and reporting it as "They expressed a desire that the TV have a mouth, so that they could insert their sexual organ into it and have the television pleasure them".
There is no way that any reasonable journalist would not look at these translated statements and assume that there might be something lost in translation, and that maybe they should consult a native speaker or two before publishing. In fact, I bet a traditional newspaper editor would demand it before they allowed it to reach print.
So Rebecca Valentine from IGN used Google to translate the developers native language, and then didn’t bother to run that translation by someone that actually speaks the language: she just went with it and published the most salacious crap. Sounds like great journalism to me!
1000 IQ Move, outstanding!
The hot blonde on the Daily Fix years ago ???
@@RealBadGaming52 I don't know what she used to look like, but these days she looks like she's a nose piercing and pink hair dye away from screaming "ACAB" at her 15 cats.
Google translation did actually translate the words correctly, the literal words he said were indeed about being sucked off until he couldn't ejaculate anymore, but there's also strong context clues that you can use to understand what the sentence is actually talking about even if you don't speak chinese that she chose to ignore.
@@MajinObama Typical ignorance from ign 😂
Game journalist seems to be less of a job and more of a certificate of disqualification
Games journalists haven't been games journalists for a very long time. Most of them are activists who got into games journalism to push their activism. They hate gaming and that's reflected in every article they write.
@@Entreped They are all desperate to be big time activist writers for some national paper or magazine. Write big, bombastic pieces and hope you strike gold. The Woke culture b.s. is "trendy" right now, and mentally deficient and morally shallow people always blindly chase trends in the hope of money and recognition.
They’re more about pushing their agendas and woke culture. So they’re not really games journalists but rather they’re DEI activists.
“Certificate of Disqualification” is a beautiful term.
If a game “journalist” bashes a game for not having an agenda.
Its a must buy..
As a native mandarin speaker, I believe that using information gaps and language barriers to create bias and discrimination is absolutely shameful.
There are many slang words on the Chinese Internet that are difficult for non-native speakers to understand, which may lead to prejudice and misunderstanding. Some people realize this and take advantage of this situation with ulterior motives
It's clearly a game designed for those who've previously experienced the joy of finding a good wooden stick.
Me like stick, long stick
Mmm monke..
So true😂
you'll never know how fun it is untill you get that goddam random stick that loooooookkk cool you become some early year dragonball cosplay out of nowhere, miss those days...
life bad
find stick
stick good
life good
happy life
I have 2 questions for Rebekah:
1. She claimed she was told Game Science studio will have a statement for her. Give the name and position of the person who promised her the statement.
2. Rebekah claimed that it is TRUE there were several sexist comments made by the devs, then SHOW THE RECEIPTS!
At this rate, she keeps crying wolf and no one will believe her or IGN.
Don't expect much from a hearsay journalist, she may be the kinda type who defends gossip articles as an undeniable clue
She is just a liar.
1. It was probably something along the lines of her asking 100 questions about the meeting and the person responding told her that they will explain everything on site. Or maybe she used the same "translation" she used to find the sexist comments.
2. She will claim that the "harassment" that ensued after her false allegations is a proof of the sexist comments and also justifies her actions. It is typical strategy I punch you and if you retaliate it means you were always a violent brute so I was justified in punching you in the first place.
Nothing will happen to her and at the game release she will write another hit piece using her previous slander as "established facts" to throw even more accusations.
Did she do any basic research on Journey to the West because lack of "fem-coded" characters bffr. Then again people like her expect creators to change age old material purely for the sake of diversity.
TBH if I ever had a slanderous hit piece like that printed about something I made I would absolutely be tempted to have them take the time to travel to me and then tell them to F off once they show up.
As a chinese, the first few lines about the erection thing is a "metaphor"...frankly speaking it's not a good metaphor since the language is not that appropriate, but it has nothing related to sexism (in mandarain there is a LOT of slang related to penis😅) Meanwhile it is NORMAL that the game contains little/none female characters since in the book JOURNEY TO THE WEST, none of the main characters are female cuz they are a group of monks. The only female characters in the book are either villagers they met or female yaoguai(monster) or female buddha.
Black myth will have more accurate Asian representation than Assassin's creed shadows
i mean its made by chinese people?
Chinese representation*
Edit: Black Myth Wukong is a video game inspired by the film 'Journey to the West' set in mythological China. Not Japan and Korea. Oriental culture is NOT representative of the whole Asia. I explicitly said 'Chinese representation' because the game takes place in mythological China. Not anywhere else. Because this version of monkey deity is of China's. I'm baffled by these name calling and insults out of nowhere.
Tldr; wukong is NOT representative of the whole Asia. And so does AC Shadows. My culture doesn't have magical monkeys, dragons and ninjas. This is coming from an Asian. 🙃
@@celxoirealyx Wukong pretty well known in asian
But shadows is a Japanese representation.
@@celxoirealyxeveryone knows China is a myth
Wild how they haven't addressed the whole "being in cahoots with SBI" over said hit piece... how odd.
Tbf the hit piece is from a year ago, so unless SBI said something along the lines of "there won't be more articles like that if you comply", which we currently have no proof of, then we can't say for sure that they were in cahoots in this instance. IGN is still grossly incompetent regardless though.
@MegaGlassguy exactly, which is why it should be an easy accusation to put to bed... I guess it makes it all the more ironic they are going after this dev for accusations as well and getting all bet out of shape when they are given no story.
Which is to say, either it's their gross incompetence, or perhaps, where there is smoke there's fire.
Almost like if they lied about any link, it can be a liability in court. IGN 100% can get sued for defamation for this, but I doubt the devs even care to (honestly, why bother with these people)
They better be eating the gravy off these devs for allowing them to test the game. Most devs/publishers usually blacklist you for anything negative and IGN went as far as trying to defame them with lies.
That "journalist" need to be sued for defamation
Start boycotting and unsubscribing ign, then only would something happen
Like Amber turd
The affected party is a chinese company, american courts are never going to let the game dev win and America would never let a ruling in a chinese court stick to an american company.
Unsubscribe to what? I won't know anything from ign if asmon or other cc don't react to their stupid article.
Leave it to IGN to use the most laziest means possible to translate another language. Remember when journalists actually took their jobs seriously?
The people who become game "journalists" are probably the ones who got rejected from more mainstream media, so of course their work is terrible.
To be honest? No, not really. I'm only 50 years old, so the era of serious journalism predates me.
oh, they take it seriously. they wouldnt be trying this hard to paint things in the light theyre trying to paint them. the issue is, theyre creating false narratives and problems, making them sound like a much bigger deal and something the gaming community wants, in order to sway game developers to pander to said issues. which ofc means these studios will hire consultants like SBI. if youve seen older clips, you'll know the cycle. its a huge scam and i dont understand the end goal.
Now they use journalism to blackmail
Has gaming journalism ever been more than just re-writing press releases and crapping out reviews?
When you buy a car where your requirement are the font of the license plate, you can't go around calling yourself car enthusiast
They got rejected for their consultation offer, so they called up their friends in the industry to write slander against that studio
You know there's no proof it actually happened right? Makes for a good headline though
Yes! This is a hitpiece.
Not consultation but extortion.
@iyaramonk yea, sweet Baby inc would neeeeeever do this😂
Imagine if this was Disney
These kind of intentionally inflammatory articles just to sow hatred should have some consequences tbh.
Need an "inciting discord" fine from the FCC for these types of baseless hitpieces.
I agree, but at the same time that wouldn't make much sense. Game journalism is just following in the steps of regular journalists / media. The gov't (or the same dirt bags that also bribe our gov't) are the ones supporting the massive psyop known as the mainstream media, why would they turn around and attack gaming journalists doing the same schmutt? In fact if I were a betting man I'd say the same people are responsible for both.
It’s only inflammatory because you guys give it attention. Like imagine caring that some loser said something stupid about a video game
3:11 so TRUE. these people like to play "bully & victim" in one breath. thats just the majority on the internet.
Why does every game has to have an exact 50/50 split of male and female characters. Oh and also have some people of color mixed in.
These people don't get that if you have one game that is primarily male characters and another game that is primarily female characters, you still get representation of both. Not every game has to be the perfect mix of genders/races/politics or whatever, and not every game has to be for everyone.
yah
imagine a slave documentary movie in 2050
fun fact is "people of color" only apply for black people. They must not be a bad guy, or at least a guy that doesn't act cowardly or something. You can see a POS asian, latino, arab, or white in a video game but you never see a black guy that act like a POS.
Ya exactly!
How simple it is!
Shut up
@@okanda259dont talk too quick u should go too africa their own people are keeping slaves couse of debt it’s disgusting saw a docu about a mother who got sick and a richer person paid for everything too save her now her and her whole family are slave labour its her and her husband and 2 kids and apparently thats legal in some countries i find it disgusting but dont think there isnt any of this going on why do u think there is sex work most of those get forced so they can pay off their debts also never go too china for surgery a head of surgery recently came out and there was literally organ harvesters on the official staff sorry for the long rant also i am DYSLEXIC srry for no punctuation 😂
Who cares what IGN thinks.
IGN's grandmother doesn't even care.
@@xiRePeNTxhe doesn’t it’s just news
Sweet baby does, them and IGN are friends
Some random freaks that believe in every of thier words
sweet baby knobs and any other so-called "consultants", their fellow so-called "journos", "female gamers who IGN think need their representation"
The fact that IGN is based out of San Francisco should tell you all you need to know.
"We expect EVERYONE, regardless of race, gender or culture, to adhere to OUR standards of what games should be like." That's basically what the person was saying, considering it's a Chinese developer. How mental can some of these people get?
They are both arrogant and ignorant
Cultural imperialism is completely okay when it's done by woke leftoid proglodytes.
/sarcasm
Disgusting act of high and mighty
You must undrestand, these articles are not for me nor you. The consumer is not important to them. Who gives a shit what IGN thinks.
It's part of their scam. "Give us money and let us inject our politics in your game, or we write hit pieces that will get some nobodies on Twitter angry"
Saying that one Game Science dev's comment on the social media Weibo (shown in 0:16), which really was just a humble self-reflection with sarcastic and vulgar tones, is like saying that some native English speaker using the F word in their comments automatically means they are sex addicts. This is how ridiculous and laughable IGN's narrative looks to many Chinese speakers.
Perfect explaination
I’m a Chinese woman. Hi used sex as metaphor. What he says in context make sense, but that doesn’t mean the way he is saying things is right. When I read his sentences, I felt so uncomfortable. Rarely people on the internet, especially someone known talk like this. Stop making excuses for him.
@@_cherly5097 you are lying，I am a Chinese man
@@_cherly5097 if it's making sence , why is it not right? Aren't metaphors meant to be impractical?
@@_cherly5097 why did it make you uncomfortable?
Oh God, why must they forcibly add a female character into a story about Buddhism? In the original work from 500 years ago, Wukong and his companions were all Buddhist monks. According to Buddhist precepts, monks are required to refrain from eating meat, getting married, and forming any friendships or romantic relationships with women. For monks, these things must be avoided; they are meant to practice in the temple for their entire lives. Forcibly adding a female character seriously violates Buddhist precepts and distorts the historical context of the original work. This would anger the 2 billion Buddhists around the world. Do they know what they are doing? No Buddhist would ever allow Wukong to have a friendship or a sexual relationship with a female character. This is incredibly offensive to Buddhism. They should come forward and apologize.
femme-coded? What even is that?
Sounds like yet another buzzword to me.
Sounds like it's a bastardized word based on femme fatale maybe? Except what they would view as femme fatale would be a fat and ugly thunder thighs monster as main character. Like we've seen in some other "games" recently.
Feminists making up stuff to be mad
basically femme presenting i.e trans etc. because all games must be inclusive these days. cant have a game that isnt inclusive, even if it means destroying what the game is just to have that inclusivity.
cant wait for Kingdom Come Deliverance 2. these dumbass journalists are gonna be so mad with that game...
inseminated by a female cod fish
These people were never punched in the face and it shows
This is why so many modern women and liberals act they way they do. They've never been in real world situations, they live an artificial life inside a bubble.
Nothing but consume this then that then the next thing, living in a bubble of ideals that are alien to the rest of the world.
People used to slap sense into people for a reason but now you go to jail. The softening of America.
It's actually a bit sad.
Hat you explain the context to ever Drama is helpful. Keep it up
“Game about a monkey with a big stick” 🤣🤣🤣
IGN: We need more women in videogames!
*Stellar Blade exists*
IGN: Not like that!!
they mean self-insert woman, the ugly one
Ah, the IGNorant wanted the BALOONNED women to FLOAT in space that is
*ign: we need more UGLY women in games
They only want ugly/masculine women
Woke game/movie criteria checklist:
1. Every character in the game has to be black or black focused else there is no diversity.
2. Every face has to be ugly, and everybody have to be fat and short.
3. Women are allowed to sexually harass men but not the other way around. (Suicide Squad is an example)
4. Good and logical story plots don't matter as long as gender blender, person with disability and sex scenes are artificially/forcefully inserted into the story. (The Eternals is an example)
5. True cultural representation does not matter as long as woke culture takes over.
The list goes on.
The google translate isn't translating the character 被. This character is used to indicate something happening in the passive sense. It's also totally mistranslating the word 勃起 to mean "erection", when in reality it means "to get excited" or be "enthusiastic". So the translation says "be praised as the saviour of the industry" is an active sentence, when he means it in a passive sense, i.e. it just happened without any additional input from him. A better translation would be "I wanted to expand my circle and hire more people, but they just kept kissing my arse to the point where I lost my enthusiasm. I wanted to be honest and release a small trailer, but I ended up being praised as the saviour of the industry."
What I love about the dev is he is fully committed to his job. Like he doesn’t want to make a statement or push some agenda, he just wants to make a good game.
What astonishes me is how some public figures or brands still have a platform. Take Logan Paul for example, films a dead body, scams millions of people, etc. Yet he still has a platform and is successful. Actions really don't have consequences anymore. What a time we live in.
There is a reason for this: Logan Paul will hit back. I dont like him, he's an asshole, but controversy fuels him and he has a very vocal and angry following that will hit back. And ask for money and compensations.
People like IGN or Kotaku think a chinese studio wont hit back. That's the whole point. They only attack the ones they percieve to be weaker. They could be talking about the real problems in the industry, but the people with the big money bags would say "stop it or you will be cancelled next".
I’m gonna defend Logan, who I cannot stand, for a second.
Japan’s culture is so messed up, they have a forest that people travel to in order to commit suicide. Japan tries to hide this, so media is not allowed to report on it. But they don’t want people to have a better work life balance, so they keep pushing people while the suicide rate stays higher than anywhere else in the world.
And you think the fucked up part of that is Logan Paul exposing that forest to the world, because he filmed someone’s lifeless corpse? So you want the suicide forest to continue to stay under a media blackout? You want everyone to be forced to never show images of the terrible reality that is Japan’s suicide culture, or be censored?
I just want to make sure we’re on the same page here.
@@VicStrange9 yeah, you missed the parallel completely...
Well, as Asmongold has said in the past, content is king.
If you can still produce a product that people want to consume, they won't care. It's why companies like Amazon (for their treatment of warehouse workers), Nestle (for their incomprehensible destruction of the environment) and pretty much every major clothing brand (they outsource their work to other countries that practically use indentured servitude) still function. Affordable products that provide a boost to quality of life. Logan provides entertainment to people for free. You can say that him filming a dead body was bad, but think about all the people who aren't saying anything and thought it was funny.
Don't forget the fact that he's basically marrying if not already married to a toilet
Just a woman enjoying Black Myth Wukong here.
Its wild that IGN did nothing about the blatant lies they told but expect Game Science to retract and apologize for statements that were warped by IGN themselves
There's literally spider demon girls in one of the trailers, but I guess we don't count that as representation because they're probably enemies
And hot
Just like real women
Well, they don't count that as representation because they don't understand how reality works to be exact.
@@hellraisermaskWhat they think anyways to be clear.
Indeed, they are the enemy and are well-known in the original novel. But even if they weren't enemies, it wouldn't matter. In the eyes of SBI, being beautiful is a crime, isn't it?
lol ign translated this on google translate, it said the same thing but when I translated it on chatgpt, aria, and some other traslation websites all of them got a more professional translation and nothing indecent. moral of the story is google translate is the worst translation thing in the world.
Fuck this, we're buy 100 copies!
We're buying over a hundred copies, individually! Prove them wrong at all cost!
She was sent there to smash up the place after they refused to pay the "protection" payment, the problem was it's an anvil and concrete block store
"We're still waiting for IGN to go bankrupt."
Let's all be thankful these people probably never even read the original Journey to the West book, otherwise they might call Wukong trans or bisexual because he transformed into human woman several times
The editor's IQ must be quite large to juggle all the information he does in that noggin.
Sexism in a game based on a centuries-old novel set in a medieval Chinese fantasy setting? Right...
Wukong slaying demons irl😂
The sad part, there's probably chinese people at IGN who can understand the original tweet but are too afraid to speak up cuz they'll probably get fired for appearing to support sexism.
Minorities only and opinons of minorities only matter to them when they support thae narrative. Thats how it works with them.
Nah they're all white and colored hairs
I'd actually wager they don't. Despite screaming at the hilltops for DEI everywhere else, I guarantee you the staff make-up is 90% White, hyper-liberal women (who are straight by any sort of metric you wanna use, but call themselves "queer" anyway)
@@tris9596 nah i've been in this boat, there probably are one or two people who know this is false, and want to speak out when things like this happen, but also realize that it will cost them thier jobs without stopping anything.
its a touch place to be
I'm a Chinese people working at IGN very afraid to speak up. I only speak down if possible.
Cant spell ignorance without Ign 💀
I wasn't going to buy Black Myth at first but IGN convinced me to get the deluxe edition.
The monkey can never just be left alone 😞
I've seen quite a few Chinese girl gamers excited about the game though. They were excited for the same things guy gamers were, they don't care about this "fem-coded" nonsense.
Story is also based on an Ancient Chinese mythology story "Journey to The West", which is a story about a bunch of dudes traveling (to India) to find ancient Buddhist scriptures. Indecently the name of the main character Sun Wukong, The Monkey King, is what the the character "Son Goku" is based on from Dragonball (which is its Japanese pronunciation).
That sounds like Hanuman, the monkey deity of India.
They are going to Nepal, and historically India was just a geographical name
Just wanted to mention that you said "indecently" when I think you meant "incidentally." Indecently means inappropriately or rudely.
If they had their way with it, they would gender switch at least one of those characters just for the sake of doing it
@@KingMinishit has been a long time since I read the story I think wukong and his crew transformed to woman at one point and bugs and many other things. This is as diverse as a game can be😂
Reject games journalism, embrace monke.
Let's not talk about micro-transactions, season passes, paid early access, pay to win loot boxes, unfinished games with $70 price tags, publishers pushing profits over quality of content at the expense of the consumer even if it shuts down successful game dev studios.
Nope. Not enough women in games is the problem in the gaming industry. Fucking nailed it.
This is why translation is a *profession* and translators are *professionals*. People, especially journalists and decision makers, need stop thinking that machine translation is good enough. Machine translation will never be good enough.
Tell that to the people fed up with mistranslations in their anime or manga who are desperate enough to give AI a turn.
@takatamiyagawa5688 those mistranslators aren't acting professionally.
Yeah, anyone who thinks google translate does a good job with Brazilian Portuguese is in for a surprise. it's wrong a lot of the time!
@Interdimensional-CableTV you would never use anything without letting a human check first though wouldnt you?
@Interdimensional-CableTV Agents meaning humans? If so you should still support the original comment who simply stated the necessity of the human factor in important translations. We wouldnt want to start a war because one guy thought that machine translation would be good enough... xD
I‘m calling it: Asmongolds editor will be making a CoffeeZilla type UA-cam pretty soon where he will take apart all sorts of people and I am all here for it. LOL
He would eviscerated them. 😂
Correction: Game journalism is dead. Journalism as a whole is dying
The "translation" makes sense in the context that it was not a translation, but a localization. They just see what they want to see.
No, that's not what localization is. This was most definitely a mistranslation .
So IGN effs up, blames the devs for not responding, AND they STILL haven’t pulled the article? Who do these people think they are?
I am Chinese, and after this issue arose, I attempted to find any discriminatory remarks or actions against women by "Game Science." However, I only found two relevant pieces of information. One is from a post by the founder on Weibo saying "licked to impotence," under which a female user expressed her discomfort with such remarks and stated she would not purchase the game in the future. Another user (not an employee of Game Science) countered that AAA games don't need female users. The other piece of information is an article published by the founder years ago, suggesting that games targeting male players should not overly consider female preferences. Additionally, there were some vulgar and sexually explicit elements in recruitment ads published by the founder many years ago. However, I did not see any direct insults or misogynistic remarks.
ign are the villains
Oh they are villains alright. Just not super ones.
The difference? PRESENTATION!
Another thing to add is that I have always hated IGN since their ORAS review with the dumb reason of “Too much water.” They are literally Team Magma but worse.
How dare IGN still assume Wukong is a male? Wukong was born from a stone, Wukong does not have a gender, Wukong can be transformed into a male or female or anything, IGN should address Wukong using “THEY” pronoun 😅
There is technically a "female" Wukong in Psikyo's Gunbird shmup game. A red-haired woman whose close range attack is to extend forth a wood-colored pole.
@Mageman17
Who gives a shyt what fux gender the monkey thing is?
Wukong was born from a stone ? Tell me more please
Cause they think Wukong is Goku.
Please don't give them ideas
As someone who read shitty manga and manhua translations on occasions, this 100% checks out.
Sometimes meanings get lost in translation, and the actual translations make no sense whatsoever.
Places like IGN & Kotaku should not be taken seriously nowadays...
They are not journalists anymore
Let me throw in Game/Screen Rant too. Their efforts are 🚽
I stopped visiting those sites as thier just activisim sites, all IGN is good for is thier walkhtrus.
They hit bedrock, found a hole and jumped into the void
How does IGN keep being the laughing stock every single year. But somehow they're still relevant
I can listen to this editor talking about randomshit, for hours.
then watch BBC nature films voiced by David Attenborough, because that's what the AI voice is.
@@pixelpuppy start with planet earth
@@rykehuss3435 lol why are you replying to me? I know about Planet Earth lolol
@@pixelpuppy to add to your comment you sperg
they really were doing this for clickbait and attention and were expecting the studio to response with anything but they didn't and IGN got heavy backlash so they went with victimhood as a defense
In fact, in the eyes of the Chinese people, Sun Wukong is a character full of resistance. He saves ordinary people who are suffering and resists those who have power and bad characters. Sun Wukong is not because ING has become so just, but because it is already like this，and，Sun Wukong's first line of dialogue every time he saves the weak is: "Hi brother, you should have endured immense injustice. It's okay, now I'm here."
I love how the number copies Asmond is buying just keeps going up😅
Editor evolved into contextor. While people lose their job to AI, this mf just invented additional position in BALD, inc. to be covered. Godspeed.
This editor is a goat others would just do simple reaction vid but he actually takes time to clear things up for people that don't know ❤
"People on the internet are too comfortable being disrespectful and not getting punched in the face for it."
- Mike Tyson
Alyssa Mercante :
he never said that. But it's true.
This is why gatekeeping is important. All these urinalists are absolute tourists.
3:48 "This is the reason game journalism is dying..."
*Correction* : Game journalism isn't "dying"....its dead.
always has been
Has been dead for years.
So much respect for Asmon's editor. He nails. It every time and does so much work behind the scenes