If I claim wokeism as my religion, could I refuse to solemnize all straight marriages? I mean, what could they do in response? Try to fire me for my religious beliefs? Argue that wokeism isn't a religion?
As a TN notary, if anyone who is trying to get married in the state and is having trouble sees this, i will marry you and your partner. I don't care. This state is crazy. 🤦🏾♂️
Does Tennessee realize anyone could extend this to anything? "Oh youre poor?" "Oh youre a republican?" "Oh youre black?" "Sorry, i dont agree with this wedding
"People want to have more marriages, so we need a law to limit marriages" I'm not even strawmanning it, he actually said it. Conservatives are bad at hiding how evil they are.
Same party that keeps screaming about the lowering rates of marraiges btw "Why won't people get married!?" "Ok, we will get married then" "Noooo! You're supposed to do it the way WE want!" *makes law stopping marraige*
That's actually a legit concern, and is why most countries that are not homophobic still do not have gay marriages acknowledged by government. Marriage costs the government a looot of money, especially with divorce being so rampant. Limiting government sanctioned marriage to only where it is practical, and not just opening it up to any two people that want to claim it, is among the best and most practical choices that any government could make.
@@joocebocks8610 if your worried about government overspending how about we look at the over inflation military budget that keeps getting bigger every year. Hell how about we just outlaw marriage altogether and that will solve the "problem" your complaining about
"We care about freedom! No one can tell me what to do!" -conservatives "Everyone must obey me and my beliefs or you'll be incarcerated or killed" -also conservatives
Conservatives: your job doesn't pay you enough to survive, welp that’s on you get another job. Also, conservatives when your job wants you to do your job, lets write a law to protect you from your job.
Refuse to grant marriages to the rich, on religious grounds. The Bible all but says (a half dozen times) that the rich are going straight to hell. You can’t help that happen.
A hard coper for christ once told me about this rock structure called "the eye of the needle". It's this totally "well-known" and famous rock formation that every merchant travels through. And when god says it's easier to pass a camel through the needles eye than it is for the rich to go to heaven, what he meant was it's kinda a hassle. Just ignore litterally everything else christ said about selling your possessions and spreading the word of the lord.
"NOOOO you cant just take something jesus said and assume it means what he said!!! he actually meant it excludes specifically the exact people i want it to, including me!!!"
@e-kp5dm That's some serious levels of cope. "Every merchant travels through" lol. Even sillier, why would Jesus be talking about how rich people find it a hassle to go through a checkpoint or something? That's not a lesson nor useful information. Nowhere in the biblical texts is he a merchant nor did he travel with merchants specifically, and he even berated people for conducting commerce at a temple.
@@JohnDoe-kp5dmYou should have actually told the guy that the story about selling your possessions was in fact about a rich man asking Jesus how he can get to heaven. He tells him that if he wants to go to heaven, he should sell his possessions and donate all the proceeds to the poor and come follow him, lol.
Vaush, it's been like this in the South for forever. I was born in South Louisiana and the people in power here are horrific. If you aren't born into a wealthy family they basically do everything they can to funnel you into the prisons here where they're allowed to use you as slave labor.
Unfortunately he sees the world from his California and personal bubble and has no sense of what's going on in the south or Appalachia because he does not have ties to those areas so its like he's looking from a plane trying to figure out how these areas are the way they are.
That doesn't count. Because the reality is that religion has nothing to do with this. They're just bigots who want to ban gay people from getting married and if they had the chance make it illegal to be gay. They're just using religion as an excuse.
That doesn't count. Because the reality is that religion has nothing to do with this. They're just bigots who want to ban gay people from getting married and if they had the chance make it illegal to be gay. They're just using religion as an excuse.
Hoosier here. Man unless you don't have weed legalized in your state you have no room to. Turns out my knowledge was exactly backwards though.. I thought Tennessee had legal weed and Oklahoma didn't... I was wrong.😅
North Dakota checking in. I thought we were low key the dumbest reddest state but lately the undisputed champions of the south are making us look moderate up here. No legal weed and they outlawed delta 8 again here. But no one can tell me to wear a mask. Thanks to Rep. Jeff Hoverson who also just happens to be a preacher. You can enjoy his UA-cam videos and listen to him explain how a Christian government would make a better secular government than a secular government. I would vote them out but there are no democrats. So you have to vote in republican primaries for the least crazy anti woke homophobe on the ticket. The fun part is that they are all anti woke psychos!! Oof-duh. I gotta move to MN.
This not only potentially peels back gay marriage, it could also end up going back to anti-miscegination laws because the law doesn't specify how they have to disagree, a racist could just say they disagree with people of different races marrying.
Just like how the Alabama Supreme Court ruling on embryos was designed so said case goes all the way to SCOTUS for Griswold v. Connecticut to be overturned, this particular law being passed is the same specifically for Obergefell v. Hodges to be reversed. This is how they eventually were able to overturn Roe. This is all by design.
Tennessee is absolutely a mega-red state. I've had family out in the rural outskirts around Knoxville for 20+ years and it has the most collective brainrot I've ever seen in an area.
Every election we only have blue winners in Memphis and Nashville but that’s not near enough to decide policies in our states because the rest are completely rotted.
Bruh I have estranged relatives I’ve met once from Tennessee and the only time I’d ever spent with them was just the double amputee telling a story Pretty much about how he and his brothers decided to catch the neighbor’s cat and tie a string around it’s gonads. They were all laughing when they got to the punchline of, “And it had to get its balls cut off! Bahahahaha!!” That horrified me, but I also started laughing because I believe in divine retribution and that guy telling the story was literally a double amputee and it’s come full circle and they didn’t even notice
I actually believe that all marriage is a bastardization of a healthy relationship. Could I therefore become an official and just not do my job? Sweet.
I hate that religious freedom argument. Not that you cant have religious freedom, but its insidious because the concept is inherently vague on purpose. Its always "God said X, Read this chapter, blah blah" never actually direct confirmation from the entity itself. So we just take their word for it. Basically a bunch of middle men or "works in mysterious ways" approaches. Its like they care more about the thing that may or may not exist nor have actually met than the real people around them everyday.
The confederate flag will probably be flown under the "relevant historical reference" by displaying the flag while discussing the Civil War, but leave it up and "play it by ear" to see who complains.
Considering how much time and effort Tennessee spends protecting all of our confederate museums and statues, they won’t even need an excuse to display that flag. We couldn’t even remove a statue in Memphis, which is arguably the bluest part of Tennessee.
I'm sure most of you could've guessed, but § 4-1-412 of the TN Code speaks about "memorials" (including flags) of "historic conflicts" (including "the War Between the States"). So as long as they can claim the school is significant to the history of the Confederacy they can still fly the Confederate battle flag under this bill.
I mean, they already do. They do to poor victims this way constantly. You get robbed and they don't care, but if a business or rich person gets robbed, they stumble over each other trying to help.
Once you open the door to allowing minor functionaries to determine what you can and can't do--based entirely on the whim of some person claiming a religious exception, there is then no end point to where this can go. It would make obtaining just about any public service, benefit or action a nightmare of negotiating various offices looking for a friendly person or maybe finding out which person can be paid off to allow anything to happen. Welcome to third world America!
Lol, I hope someone refuses to sign unless they get paid. They can say they follow the prosperity gospel, so if it ain't paying then it's not "blessed."
Assigned Tennesseean At Birth here, Tennessee has the largest Republican super majority of any state. The main goal of any queer person in Tennessee is to save enough money to move.
Heya, I made it out in 2010. Moved to the PNW, and while things aren't perfect, there's nowhere near the open hostility you find in TN. I wish you all the luck finding your freedom
Dude all i hear about tennessee is how much trafficking they have Literally last night i read a story on reddit where a girl got targeted in a fucking walmart
@@dildoniusThey are happening there with increased frequency, with a giant spotlight on it (which they build themselves) and in ways that make the rest of the world laugh thier ass off. True, some other parts are becoming worse and worse for a lot of ppl but they eighter hide it or don't scream it into our Faces when it happens...only the US
Just fly a flag with the patch of the 42nd Infantry Division on it. It's allowed in the rules, and while it isnt quite a pride flag its close enough and people will understand the alternate meaning.
the problem is extremely fundemental, it's saying that as a public officials personal beliefs trump the actual constitution and authority of the state. This should be thrown out immediately.
@@mekannatarry1929 true. Tho we need something to cut this bad behavior off. Like not doing your job is explicitly not a reasonable accomodation, cause from the employers point of view the worker lied when getting highered that they are capable/willing to do the job.
@@sharpsrain8302 Sort of, but it’s the people’s job to officiate (or whatever the word is) weddings. They have to keep their personal biases out of it cause it is literally their job.
@@DecayedSlav wait a sec if ppl can go get married ona whim in Vegas doesn't that mean its not just a government funded thing? Or are they all government employees? If they're gov I agree 100% but if it's an individual providing the service I don't as job or not if they're not a government employee they should be allowed to turn whoever away -(doesn't matter if it's racist sexist classiest etc etc as that's a requirement of living Ina free society./and even then if options, beliefs matter everyone's does if they don't wanna do it bc of genuine hate or simply not agreeing with it thats on them to decide not the gov,mob -(thx for the response 🙏🙏-(sorry idk how the marriage process works 😂)
Here in Ontario, regarding abortion, the Supreme Court deemed that health care workers could only deny a person services based on religious convictions if they could find and guarantee those services by another. If not, then they have to carry them out. This was only regarding abortion, while they probably didn't think about how it could be expanded to support other religiously supported denials of services, since those things are constitutionally protected, unlike abortion.
@@RaroHi It's all because of the extremists in religion and the party who wants to sell out their own citizens to gain power by pandering to them. What awful people.
I think it is something that all Tennesseans should be concerned about. And I, for one, laud our legislators for taking up this subject while ignoring healthcare for Tennesseans. This and the recent bill exempting expelled legislators from holding office demonstrates that our legislators are doing their jobs...
@@SlappyRat I understand. I'm saying that as a non resident, thinking if enough people didn't visit and spend more there, there would be pressure for them to reverse the dumb laws. Sad to hear about you being stuck there.
It also shows their weakness in piety, or to be more blunt, they're afraid of gaining perspective and possibly being okay with anything other than a marriage between 2 straight "white" people.
This really just feels like a race now between whether the Republicans can instate a theocracy before literally everyone else gets sick of their bullshit.
I live in Tennessee currently and the conservative agenda is getting so unbearable, its awful. Lots of the people around here support it too. I plan to move back to Maine.
The facts dont care about your feelings side sure care about how doing things might offend them and using the power of the law to make sure they get their safe spaces.
One can always count on my home state of TN to be leading the charge for more hatred & blind addiction to a book of “wisdom” written thousands of years ago by barbarians.
A small town in Alberta Canada just passed a law banning all flags on city property other than provincial, country and city also no pride sidewalks in the city. Its spreading even here in Canada.
Arkansas already passed a law that allows officials to discriminate for religious reasons. Hundreds of these laws are being passed everywhere and many are sticking because they're not getting widespread attention. I highly recommend following the ACLU updated list, esp in your area and doing what you can. My state is getting progressively worse by the day at this point, but we do what we can. Giving up isn't an option.
I moved from Memphis to a small town in the state and let me tell you, the political whiplash gives me chronic anxiety. Went from arguably the bluest part of the state to the super red parts. They still believe Trump won the election here.
In the Tennessee county where i live the Court Clerk announced several years ago that he would not perform marriage ceremonies because he thought a marriage was ordained by God and should be performed in a church by a minister.
Conservatives: "Capitalism is great. The Market Forces will work everything out." Wedding efficients: *losing money because they exclude entire demographics of people wanting to get married, literally one of the core principles of Capitalism playing out* Comservatives: "No no no! We can't have that! Get the government to intervene and protect these preachers!"
The Bible is also against divorce but you never see them refusing to preform the marriages of people who have been divorced. I’m so sick of people trying to pass laws based on religious zealotry.
I married my husband 20 years ago in Arnhem. My parents were both present at the betrothal (my mother was seriously ill), my father, inlaws and all my uncles and aunts at the actual marriage. The Arnhem official acted strange at our marriage. I believe that a notary should solemnize a marriage and that the state should only adjust their population register. The state should not interfere with who you like, the state should only ensure that your life is optimal.
The real mistake was allowing clergy to perform legally binding marriages in the first place. In civilized countries, legal marriage is performed by government, and religious marriage, which is optional, is performed by clergy, who of course have, and rightly so, the right to refuse on religious grounds.
I'm Lutheran and we've never done the ashes at my church (Missouri sect, there are a few branches of Lutheranism so maybe a different sect does it). And Lutherans aren't diet Catholics, but that is how my friend who is Episcopalian described her religion. She said Episcopalians are basically diet Catholics.
I'm a nominal (lapsed) Episcopalian, that's really an undersell. The 'diet' in this case is that we have all the aesthetic and cool churches, but without all the homophobia and sexism. For example: Episcopalians have a long history of women, gays (and even gay women!) as celery, including as priests and even bishops! Priests can also get married, and take accusations of sexual assault seriously. Episcopalianism is also trans positive. I'm unsure if we have any trans clergy, not for any bad reason - because they'd be registered under their chosen gender!
@@trianglemoebius my Episcopalian friend is very progressive, so I did get the impression that your religion is a lot more accepting and open. ♥️ I was raised Lutheran but don't go to my church anymore bc we got a new pastor several yrs ago and he's a homophob and honestly just a prick (and from what I'm hearing, my husband and I are not the only ones who feel that way). 😕
@PinkSakuraBunnie Yeah, LCMS is the more conservative side of the Lutheran church, they see gay as bad and women as inferior. There are much more progressive Lutheran factions that disagree on those points and others.
If someone in charge of a "political subdivision" in Tennessee made the pride flag their flag, technically it would no longer be banned. Just an idea for any mayors in Tennessee.
As a resident of the great state of Tennessee, if you gave the government of the state absolute power, and no federal oversight slavery will be reinstituted within ten years and it'll be illegal to be gay.
It's a tricky word to pronounce because the pronunciation is different from the root word of solemn. Mispronounciation is pretty common. A quick guide for the curious: So(just like the word so) -lem(like the start lemming) - nize(like eyes with an n in front of it) The middle syllable is the stressed syllable
Also keep in mind this could mean that ANY marriage that isn't whatever flavor of religion these officials are could deny those marriages. It lays the foundation to have only one religion recognized in marriage. Just fill up those positions with people who align with one belief system.
This is literally as stupid as going into the military and refusing to fight because you're "religiously pacifist" and expecting to get paid anyway. Or a vegan applying to be a butcher, an Amish person applying to be a computer technician. If you don't want to do a job, don't apply for it. You have the right to your beliefs; you don't have the right to force others into your beliefs.
I believe the legal bases by which private vs government entities may (or may not) discriminate are different. A private entity such as a grocery store is subject to public accomodation laws which are not federal laws (they are state and/or local laws or state constitutional provisions) and not based on the US constitution. Goverment entities, on the other hand, are subject to the constitutional provision of equal treatment for all. The reason I bring this up is that this new tennessee law obviously fails the constitutional test for government entities (such as county clerks) but might not fail for private entities (such as private individuals licensed to perform weddings) against whatever public accomodation laws or state constitutional provisions against discrimination are in place (or absent) in tennessee.
If I claim wokeism as my religion, could I refuse to solemnize all straight marriages? I mean, what could they do in response? Try to fire me for my religious beliefs? Argue that wokeism isn't a religion?
They could bash you for mocking the one true God. 🤷🏻♂️
Don't even go that far, simply claim their form of marriage is based on lust and Greed rather than unconditional love. Play them by their own game lol
Hit em w the "God said Adam and Eve, not Lucifer and Lilith" for a bonus effect
Or use a magic 8 ball to decide whether to solemnize while claiming to believe in divination.
...or just _pretend_ to be using the magic 8 ball while actually making the decision yourself based on naked bias. Dare them to call you out on it.
As a TN notary, if anyone who is trying to get married in the state and is having trouble sees this, i will marry you and your partner. I don't care. This state is crazy. 🤦🏾♂️
breaking: local chad marries all of tennessee
he will marry you and he will marry your partner
polygamy but woke
TN also tried passing a marriage bill a couple years ago with no age limits, wtf 🤦🏻♂️
@@mcrugin8817so gays marrying = no, but cr33py old men marrying little girls = ok? Are they trying to be Alabama now?
Does Tennessee realize anyone could extend this to anything?
"Oh youre poor?"
"Oh youre a republican?"
"Oh youre black?"
"Sorry, i dont agree with this wedding
They're counting on it
It’s all part of their plan.
That's an intended feature.
The republicans are pushing for banning inter-racial marriage aswell, so bet on it
@@jingbot1071 Do you mind *not* being right for a day?
"People want to have more marriages, so we need a law to limit marriages"
I'm not even strawmanning it, he actually said it. Conservatives are bad at hiding how evil they are.
Same party that keeps screaming about the lowering rates of marraiges btw
"Why won't people get married!?"
"Ok, we will get married then"
"Noooo! You're supposed to do it the way WE want!" *makes law stopping marraige*
They don't care to hide how fucked up they are
That's actually a legit concern, and is why most countries that are not homophobic still do not have gay marriages acknowledged by government. Marriage costs the government a looot of money, especially with divorce being so rampant. Limiting government sanctioned marriage to only where it is practical, and not just opening it up to any two people that want to claim it, is among the best and most practical choices that any government could make.
@@joocebocks8610 if your worried about government overspending how about we look at the over inflation military budget that keeps getting bigger every year. Hell how about we just outlaw marriage altogether and that will solve the "problem" your complaining about
@joocebocks L oh Fucking L dude.
"We have guns to fight a tyrannical government." - conservatives
"We vote in tyrannical leaders." - also conservatives
"We care about freedom! No one can tell me what to do!"
-conservatives
"Everyone must obey me and my beliefs or you'll be incarcerated or killed"
-also conservatives
You do realize this could easily extend to interracial marriage? Right? Especially, in these bigoted Southern states. 😒
That's the next move of course.
TN still has sundown towns...
Luckily one of the reporters mentioned this, but that's gotta be part of the plan
That's why my husband and I moved from Tennessee in 2017. We saw how things were going. We're so glad we left.
Not to mention non-Christian marriages! Let’s not put _that_ past them, either!
Conservatives: your job doesn't pay you enough to survive, welp that’s on you get another job.
Also, conservatives when your job wants you to do your job, lets write a law to protect you from your job.
You sound like a frustrated right wing libertarian
@@grahamjones5400 probably because you don’t know what either of those things are.
@@grahamjones5400 in what regard?
Refuse to grant marriages to the rich, on religious grounds. The Bible all but says (a half dozen times) that the rich are going straight to hell. You can’t help that happen.
Also you can only re-marry if your spouse is dead. Divorce isn't valid since you take marriage vows before God, so any "re-marriages" would be bigamy.
A hard coper for christ once told me about this rock structure called "the eye of the needle". It's this totally "well-known" and famous rock formation that every merchant travels through. And when god says it's easier to pass a camel through the needles eye than it is for the rich to go to heaven, what he meant was it's kinda a hassle. Just ignore litterally everything else christ said about selling your possessions and spreading the word of the lord.
"NOOOO you cant just take something jesus said and assume it means what he said!!! he actually meant it excludes specifically the exact people i want it to, including me!!!"
@e-kp5dm That's some serious levels of cope. "Every merchant travels through" lol. Even sillier, why would Jesus be talking about how rich people find it a hassle to go through a checkpoint or something? That's not a lesson nor useful information. Nowhere in the biblical texts is he a merchant nor did he travel with merchants specifically, and he even berated people for conducting commerce at a temple.
@@JohnDoe-kp5dmYou should have actually told the guy that the story about selling your possessions was in fact about a rich man asking Jesus how he can get to heaven.
He tells him that if he wants to go to heaven, he should sell his possessions and donate all the proceeds to the poor and come follow him, lol.
Vaush, it's been like this in the South for forever. I was born in South Louisiana and the people in power here are horrific. If you aren't born into a wealthy family they basically do everything they can to funnel you into the prisons here where they're allowed to use you as slave labor.
Unfortunately he sees the world from his California and personal bubble and has no sense of what's going on in the south or Appalachia because he does not have ties to those areas so its like he's looking from a plane trying to figure out how these areas are the way they are.
my favourite pick up line:
Are you from Tenessee, damn that really sucks sorry
Thanks. It is hell here.
What if I believe that straight people shouldn't get married and deny those marriages?
Yes, you can do that in Tennessee now
@@footballdesk4417Not the state? They made this legal
That doesn't count. Because the reality is that religion has nothing to do with this. They're just bigots who want to ban gay people from getting married and if they had the chance make it illegal to be gay. They're just using religion as an excuse.
That doesn't count. Because the reality is that religion has nothing to do with this. They're just bigots who want to ban gay people from getting married and if they had the chance make it illegal to be gay. They're just using religion as an excuse.
@@dildonius let's not mince words.
If they had the chance, they'd make lynching gays legal.
Tennesseean here… I swear it feels like as a state, we looked at Florida and went “let’s do THAT”. I hate it here.
I'm in Oklahoma. I feel you, dude.
I’m also from Oklahoma I feel you guys as well
Tennessean here bro is speaking truth
Hoosier here. Man unless you don't have weed legalized in your state you have no room to.
Turns out my knowledge was exactly backwards though.. I thought Tennessee had legal weed and Oklahoma didn't... I was wrong.😅
North Dakota checking in. I thought we were low key the dumbest reddest state but lately the undisputed champions of the south are making us look moderate up here.
No legal weed and they outlawed delta 8 again here. But no one can tell me to wear a mask. Thanks to Rep. Jeff Hoverson who also just happens to be a preacher. You can enjoy his UA-cam videos and listen to him explain how a Christian government would make a better secular government than a secular government.
I would vote them out but there are no democrats. So you have to vote in republican primaries for the least crazy anti woke homophobe on the ticket. The fun part is that they are all anti woke psychos!! Oof-duh. I gotta move to MN.
This not only potentially peels back gay marriage, it could also end up going back to anti-miscegination laws because the law doesn't specify how they have to disagree, a racist could just say they disagree with people of different races marrying.
It comes as no surprise to me that Matt Walsh is from Nashville. The jokes write themselves
Just like how the Alabama Supreme Court ruling on embryos was designed so said case goes all the way to SCOTUS for Griswold v. Connecticut to be overturned, this particular law being passed is the same specifically for Obergefell v. Hodges to be reversed. This is how they eventually were able to overturn Roe. This is all by design.
Time zones are wild. In Australia it's 2pm, in the UK it's 3 AM, in the south it's the 1950s its wild
Tennessee is absolutely a mega-red state. I've had family out in the rural outskirts around Knoxville for 20+ years and it has the most collective brainrot I've ever seen in an area.
This is making me glad I live in the Bible belt
Every election we only have blue winners in Memphis and Nashville but that’s not near enough to decide policies in our states because the rest are completely rotted.
Yea i have a half sibling there and she seems really dumb
Also, hows the meth business coming
@@lukathefae3904worse
Bruh I have estranged relatives I’ve met once from Tennessee and the only time I’d ever spent with them was just the double amputee telling a story
Pretty much about how he and his brothers decided to catch the neighbor’s cat and tie a string around it’s gonads. They were all laughing when they got to the punchline of, “And it had to get its balls cut off! Bahahahaha!!”
That horrified me, but I also started laughing because I believe in divine retribution and that guy telling the story was literally a double amputee and it’s come full circle and they didn’t even notice
I actually believe that all marriage is a bastardization of a healthy relationship. Could I therefore become an official and just not do my job? Sweet.
I hate that religious freedom argument. Not that you cant have religious freedom, but its insidious because the concept is inherently vague on purpose. Its always "God said X, Read this chapter, blah blah" never actually direct confirmation from the entity itself. So we just take their word for it. Basically a bunch of middle men or "works in mysterious ways" approaches.
Its like they care more about the thing that may or may not exist nor have actually met than the real people around them everyday.
The confederate flag will probably be flown under the "relevant historical reference" by displaying the flag while discussing the Civil War, but leave it up and "play it by ear" to see who complains.
Considering how much time and effort Tennessee spends protecting all of our confederate museums and statues, they won’t even need an excuse to display that flag. We couldn’t even remove a statue in Memphis, which is arguably the bluest part of Tennessee.
"Small Tennesse University/Town changes flag to Pride Flag to Skirt New Flag Regulations"
"Tennessee Supreme Court forces town to change flag back to original design after LGBT+ redesign"
The amount of time these public servants spend on trying to make lives worse for certain people.
So does this mean I can refuse a customer with a maga hat?
Of course it doesn't.
So what the fuck is going on here?
Press f to pay respects to Tennessee
F
Why?
But Tennessee doesn't really have anything worthy of respect
@@cake_9510 except my mother specifically. She's a great person.
f***
I wish Dolly would speak up and shame this Governor.
Just use the Jewish Autonomous Oblast's flag, it's basically a pride flag and is a subdivision of Russia, so conservatives should like it.
Well no, it's a reminder that there's Jewish people in an area outside of Palestine. The right would hate it.
it always starts with "allowed to deny human rights", then develop into straight up commanded by the state to deny human rights!
I'm sure most of you could've guessed, but § 4-1-412 of the TN Code speaks about "memorials" (including flags) of "historic conflicts" (including "the War Between the States"). So as long as they can claim the school is significant to the history of the Confederacy they can still fly the Confederate battle flag under this bill.
What if public servants like cops decided not to help gay victims of crime?
Idc
I mean, they already do. They do to poor victims this way constantly. You get robbed and they don't care, but if a business or rich person gets robbed, they stumble over each other trying to help.
We really shoulda stopped after the first 13 states huh?
The Northeast Commonwealth is the future😂
No? You realize there's a whole shitload of states beyond the former Confederate ones and the ones that compromised the original 13 colonies, right?
Should just absorb the top half of the US along with the west and east coast into Canada and give the rest to Mexico
@@HarryDirtayuhh sure
Nobody tell him
Pacific rim states are goated.
Conservatives here creating time travel and forcing the state back in time!
Once you open the door to allowing minor functionaries to determine what you can and can't do--based entirely on the whim of some person claiming a religious exception, there is then no end point to where this can go. It would make obtaining just about any public service, benefit or action a nightmare of negotiating various offices looking for a friendly person or maybe finding out which person can be paid off to allow anything to happen. Welcome to third world America!
Lol, I hope someone refuses to sign unless they get paid. They can say they follow the prosperity gospel, so if it ain't paying then it's not "blessed."
Assigned Tennesseean At Birth here, Tennessee has the largest Republican super majority of any state. The main goal of any queer person in Tennessee is to save enough money to move.
My biggest issue is voting turnout is ABYSMAL here. If people actually voted, I don't think it'd be this bad.
Heya, I made it out in 2010. Moved to the PNW, and while things aren't perfect, there's nowhere near the open hostility you find in TN. I wish you all the luck finding your freedom
5 bucks says the Confederate flag ain't subject to the same restrictions.
Dude all i hear about tennessee is how much trafficking they have
Literally last night i read a story on reddit where a girl got targeted in a fucking walmart
USA: Stepping back every day a bit more...the country only needs to reinstate the orange criminal and you're done becoming a full on joke
It's extremely foolish to act as if these things happening in The USA are only happening in The USA.
@@dildoniusThey are happening there with increased frequency, with a giant spotlight on it (which they build themselves) and in ways that make the rest of the world laugh thier ass off. True, some other parts are becoming worse and worse for a lot of ppl but they eighter hide it or don't scream it into our Faces when it happens...only the US
goddammit, I hate it when my state gets on a vaush video. someone save us
We are utterly fucked.
Just fly a flag with the patch of the 42nd Infantry Division on it. It's allowed in the rules, and while it isnt quite a pride flag its close enough and people will understand the alternate meaning.
the problem is extremely fundemental, it's saying that as a public officials personal beliefs trump the actual constitution and authority of the state. This should be thrown out immediately.
Meanwhile it was and still is legal for 3 10 year old girls to legally get married to a 24, 25, and 35 years old men in Tennessee.
We should make it easier to fire people who will not do their job. Even if its because of their conscence or religion. Unreasonable accomidations.
I mean in right to work states it's already very easy, as you can be fired for no reason; literally, it's in the TaC.
@@mekannatarry1929 true. Tho we need something to cut this bad behavior off. Like not doing your job is explicitly not a reasonable accomodation, cause from the employers point of view the worker lied when getting highered that they are capable/willing to do the job.
I thought that paster was gonna speak in favor of the bill. It’s refreshing he didn’t.
Definitely a trustworthy one
Same
@@DecayedSlav question do you know what the situation is all I got from it is ppl can say no to gay marriage ona individual basis
@@sharpsrain8302 Sort of, but it’s the people’s job to officiate (or whatever the word is) weddings. They have to keep their personal biases out of it cause it is literally their job.
@@DecayedSlav wait a sec if ppl can go get married ona whim in Vegas doesn't that mean its not just a government funded thing? Or are they all government employees? If they're gov I agree 100% but if it's an individual providing the service I don't as job or not if they're not a government employee they should be allowed to turn whoever away -(doesn't matter if it's racist sexist classiest etc etc as that's a requirement of living Ina free society./and even then if options, beliefs matter everyone's does if they don't wanna do it bc of genuine hate or simply not agreeing with it thats on them to decide not the gov,mob -(thx for the response 🙏🙏-(sorry idk how the marriage process works 😂)
0:33 BTW, the plural of "notary public" is "notaries public," not "notary publics." If you work at CNN, please let your writers know.
Here in Ontario, regarding abortion, the Supreme Court deemed that health care workers could only deny a person services based on religious convictions if they could find and guarantee those services by another. If not, then they have to carry them out. This was only regarding abortion, while they probably didn't think about how it could be expanded to support other religiously supported denials of services, since those things are constitutionally protected, unlike abortion.
Bill Lee needs to get off grindr and get out of our gov mansion.
They are going to keep throwing stuff like this at scotus until they get what they want.
Bold move Cotton, let's see how this works out
I'm a trans women living in Tennessee it's rough out here
Mega oof. I’m sorry.
Maryland is good!
As a fellow sister, it sure as frick is. Breaking the law every time I pee in public.
@@RaroHi It's all because of the extremists in religion and the party who wants to sell out their own citizens to gain power by pandering to them. What awful people.
I think it is something that all Tennesseans should be concerned about. And I, for one, laud our legislators for taking up this subject while ignoring healthcare for Tennesseans.
This and the recent bill exempting expelled legislators from holding office demonstrates that our legislators are doing their jobs...
If i was a marriage officiant in Tennessee rn, i would be denying all marriage certificates
The bible says. Marriages are for one man . 1 woman and 1 woman & 1 woman & 1 " slave girl"
As someone who works at a pub in downtown nashville i can confirm it is fake as shit on Broadway.
Every time my state is in the news I want to leave it more
I tell everyone I know not to spend money in that state because it supports bigotry.
@@monicadaniels784 Would if I could, but my entire life is here and I don't have the funds to move out of state.
Wages are too low and rent is too high to be able to save enough to leave this godforsaken place.
@@SlappyRat I understand. I'm saying that as a non resident, thinking if enough people didn't visit and spend more there, there would be pressure for them to reverse the dumb laws. Sad to hear about you being stuck there.
If you can't preform your job because of your religion, then you shouldn't be in that job!
It also shows their weakness in piety, or to be more blunt, they're afraid of gaining perspective and possibly being okay with anything other than a marriage between 2 straight "white" people.
This really just feels like a race now between whether the Republicans can instate a theocracy before literally everyone else gets sick of their bullshit.
This would look so much better at 24fps
It’s too damn colorful… I’d look better if it was more grey with less contrast…
I get that reference
I feel like I can't take Vaush seriously without his face taking up 90% of the screen
@@k8x97 I get that reference to
Lmaoooooo Vaush threw shade at the grass for not being green in winter lmaooooo ahahah
I live in Tennessee currently and the conservative agenda is getting so unbearable, its awful. Lots of the people around here support it too. I plan to move back to Maine.
To be fair, the Nashville you're talking about is just lower Broadway. The rest of the city is a lot cooler than that god awful tourist trap.
The facts dont care about your feelings side sure care about how doing things might offend them and using the power of the law to make sure they get their safe spaces.
One can always count on my home state of TN to be leading the charge for more hatred & blind addiction to a book of “wisdom” written thousands of years ago by barbarians.
And an Amish DMV lady could refuse to issue a license to drive a devil machine!
Totally not me moving to Nashville earlier this week...
A small town in Alberta Canada just passed a law banning all flags on city property other than provincial, country and city also no pride sidewalks in the city. Its spreading even here in Canada.
The Baptist church I grew up in wore ashes on Ash Wednesday, too.
Arkansas already passed a law that allows officials to discriminate for religious reasons. Hundreds of these laws are being passed everywhere and many are sticking because they're not getting widespread attention. I highly recommend following the ACLU updated list, esp in your area and doing what you can. My state is getting progressively worse by the day at this point, but we do what we can. Giving up isn't an option.
Once they took out Roe vs. Wade they were always going to come for Marriage Equality next. Get your pitchforks ready to march for your rights again.
Whoa did i see brad little on the thumbnail? That's my governor 💀
We're renaming Tennessee to Zeroessee since they're a 0/10
Sounds 🏳️🌈
and all the conservative LGB drop the T people gasped out in surprise, who could have predicted this?!
This stuff is SPECIFICALLY so it gets to a conservative appellate or Supreme court and to overturn Obergefell.
Please someone tell me how a marriage between two men or women affects anyone 🤦♂️
Let’s not miss this. This is huge
They are also trying to make objections to these laws illegal unless you are the DOJ
Far eastern tn reporting in, shits on fire man. It’s a loss. I’m stuck watching it burn as a sole dim blue light amongst the red
Tennessee is about 60% red, but the red people are super red.
I moved from Memphis to a small town in the state and let me tell you, the political whiplash gives me chronic anxiety. Went from arguably the bluest part of the state to the super red parts. They still believe Trump won the election here.
In the Tennessee county where i live the Court Clerk announced several years ago that he would not perform marriage ceremonies because he thought a marriage was ordained by God and should be performed in a church by a minister.
the gay bashers are not against Buddhist marriage for some reason
It’s Super Tuesday today, and a good reason to make sure you’re registered to vote. Because the last thing we need is this on a federal level as well.
Conservatives: "Capitalism is great. The Market Forces will work everything out."
Wedding efficients: *losing money because they exclude entire demographics of people wanting to get married, literally one of the core principles of Capitalism playing out*
Comservatives: "No no no! We can't have that! Get the government to intervene and protect these preachers!"
Where is the requirement for states to ensure provision of services to all.
What if all clerks refuse?
The Bible is also against divorce but you never see them refusing to preform the marriages of people who have been divorced.
I’m so sick of people trying to pass laws based on religious zealotry.
I married my husband 20 years ago in Arnhem. My parents were both present at the betrothal (my mother was seriously ill), my father, inlaws and all my uncles and aunts at the actual marriage. The Arnhem official acted strange at our marriage. I believe that a notary should solemnize a marriage and that the state should only adjust their population register.
The state should not interfere with who you like, the state should only ensure that your life is optimal.
The real mistake was allowing clergy to perform legally binding marriages in the first place. In civilized countries, legal marriage is performed by government, and religious marriage, which is optional, is performed by clergy, who of course have, and rightly so, the right to refuse on religious grounds.
The state capitol is quite beautiful. The park isnt in that shot its on the side u cant see. Prettier than most cities.
I'm Lutheran and we've never done the ashes at my church (Missouri sect, there are a few branches of Lutheranism so maybe a different sect does it).
And Lutherans aren't diet Catholics, but that is how my friend who is Episcopalian described her religion. She said Episcopalians are basically diet Catholics.
I'm a nominal (lapsed) Episcopalian, that's really an undersell. The 'diet' in this case is that we have all the aesthetic and cool churches, but without all the homophobia and sexism. For example: Episcopalians have a long history of women, gays (and even gay women!) as celery, including as priests and even bishops! Priests can also get married, and take accusations of sexual assault seriously.
Episcopalianism is also trans positive. I'm unsure if we have any trans clergy, not for any bad reason - because they'd be registered under their chosen gender!
@@trianglemoebius my Episcopalian friend is very progressive, so I did get the impression that your religion is a lot more accepting and open. ♥️ I was raised Lutheran but don't go to my church anymore bc we got a new pastor several yrs ago and he's a homophob and honestly just a prick (and from what I'm hearing, my husband and I are not the only ones who feel that way). 😕
My LCMS church growing up did the ashes exclusively on ash wednesday. It was pretty big, though.
@PinkSakuraBunnie Yeah, LCMS is the more conservative side of the Lutheran church, they see gay as bad and women as inferior. There are much more progressive Lutheran factions that disagree on those points and others.
Kim Davis from Kentucky. She wasn’t going to officiate the wedding, she was supposed to to issue the marriage license.
Love from a TwistyTheTiny and ChristainVerstappen fan!
If someone in charge of a "political subdivision" in Tennessee made the pride flag their flag, technically it would no longer be banned. Just an idea for any mayors in Tennessee.
At a first glance the ash looked like a kanoka disc launcher
Eye of the tiger.
As a resident of the great state of Tennessee, if you gave the government of the state absolute power, and no federal oversight slavery will be reinstituted within ten years and it'll be illegal to be gay.
It's a tricky word to pronounce because the pronunciation is different from the root word of solemn. Mispronounciation is pretty common.
A quick guide for the curious:
So(just like the word so) -lem(like the start lemming) - nize(like eyes with an n in front of it)
The middle syllable is the stressed syllable
Tennessee reps are so salty they couldn't expell the Justins they decided to take it out on the whole state
Also keep in mind this could mean that ANY marriage that isn't whatever flavor of religion these officials are could deny those marriages. It lays the foundation to have only one religion recognized in marriage. Just fill up those positions with people who align with one belief system.
it sucks here
Well it was fun while it lasted, figured this would happen eventually
This is literally as stupid as going into the military and refusing to fight because you're "religiously pacifist" and expecting to get paid anyway. Or a vegan applying to be a butcher, an Amish person applying to be a computer technician.
If you don't want to do a job, don't apply for it. You have the right to your beliefs; you don't have the right to force others into your beliefs.
I'm sure the LGB alliance will be all over this
I believe the legal bases by which private vs government entities may (or may not) discriminate are different. A private entity such as a grocery store is subject to public accomodation laws which are not federal laws (they are state and/or local laws or state constitutional provisions) and not based on the US constitution. Goverment entities, on the other hand, are subject to the constitutional provision of equal treatment for all. The reason I bring this up is that this new tennessee law obviously fails the constitutional test for government entities (such as county clerks) but might not fail for private entities (such as private individuals licensed to perform weddings) against whatever public accomodation laws or state constitutional provisions against discrimination are in place (or absent) in tennessee.