Is It Better Or Worse? John Deere 2025r: New Style vs Old Style
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Compare the new style John Deere 2025r tractor with the old (classic) style John Deere 2025r tractor. Both are part of the 2 Series family of compact tractors offered by John Deere. Physical dimensions of each tractor are nearly identical, however you'll find many improvements in the refined version of the 2018 John Deere 2025r.
Some of the largest differences in the operator's station include an upgraded seat and suspension, redesigned control locations and handles creating a much more comfortable and ergonomic experience. New standard features including fender mounted work lights, cruise control, relocated and more convenient fender mounted fuel fill, seat back storage space, integrated step, and more!
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Here are a few things that were missed regarding capability between the 2013-2016 2025R (GEN 1) and the 2017-Present 2025R (GEN 2), it would appear that JD is moving the 2025R closer to the 1 series:
ENGINE:
GEN 1 = Yanmar 3TNV76 = 24.2 hp, PTO 18 hp
GEN 2 = Yanmar 3TNV80F = 23.9 hp
PTO 18 hp
LOADER:
Lift Height:
Gen1 : H130 - 78.9" at pivot
Gen2 : 120R - 72" at pivot
Lift Capacity:
GEN 1: H130: 1023 lbs
GEN 2: 120R: 754 lbs
Breakout Force (at pin):
GEN 1: H130: 2508 lbs
GEN 2: 120R: 1823 lbs
BRAKES:
GEN 1: Dual Rear Brakes
GEN 2: Single Rear Brake
PTO HORSEPOWER 3 PT HITCH:
GEN 1: has larger pins connecting the draft arms to the tractor frame
GEN 2: has pins which are smaller than Cat1 Implement pins, connecting the draft arms to the tractor frame
GEN 1: has adjustable draft arm lift. 3 different holes on draft arms and 3 different holes on lift links to adjust lift height and lift capacity
GEN 2: has fixed relationship between lift links and draft arms
GEN 1: stabilizers pull the draft arms together
GEN 2: stabilizers pull the draft arms apart
GEN 1: has greater lift height
GEN 1: Rear Lift (at ends): 1433 lbs
GEN 2: Rear Lift (at ends): 1234 lbs
GEN 1: Rear Lift at 24” = 1150 lbs
GEN 2: Rear Lift at 24” = 882 lbs
TURNING RADIUS:
GEN 1 = 7.7 ft , 6.7 ft w/ Brakes has tighter turning radius than GEN 2 without brakes.
FRONT AXLE LOAD:
GEN 1: = 1940 lbs
GEN 2: = 1349 lbs
FRAME:
GEN 1: has a heavier frame and the GEN 2.
Then I am even happier I got the 2025R when I did! Thanks for the comparison.
Going to look at a 2016 2025r tomorrow with 400hr. Your video has helped me with some questions I had .Thanks
I picked up a 2038r traded in the Massey. Huge improvement very happy
I own the old-style 2025R and I LOVE that machine! It has never let me down and has surprised me how powerful it is. I am using the front loader H130 and the 270A backhoe moving rocks and building stone walls and it has hauled rocks out of the ground that I never thought it would. It is a steady, reliable machine that is able to handle most any job.
I do like the new operator station, however, bit more streamlined. If I would suggest anything to change, give a bit more room between the seat and the 270A controls so you don't knock your nads when you lift the dipper!
I'm still shopping, still doing my research and definitely find your series of videos very helpful for making my decision. It would be great to have a more in depth review of each compact tractor model. Keep up the great work. I've subscribed
You put out great content time and time again. I’m also very impressed with how you operate your business - ethically and with great integrity.
Thank you David. I really appreciate your feedback and support!
I don't know his business, but the video content is great for me.
The two things I like about the new one is the location of the diesel fill and the 12v outlet. The outlet would have helped the other day when I needed to fill a tire way out in the field not near and power outlet
Great point!
I have experience with both machines and the older version is MUCH better. The 120R loader is nothing compared to the H130 when it comes to durability. Yes the Autoconnect deck is nice but does not mow nearly as good as the 54D and 62D on the older version.
Nice comparison! Short summer!
Yeah, sad to see it go already. Although, I sure love fall!
Speaking from 1025r experience, there's two things not good on that new 2025r:
1) The hood looks identical to a 1025r and is apparently plastic (forget 'composite', it's PLASTIC), and the hood latch will break off. Probably within the first 100 hours.
2) While the new/old fuel filler thing is a lot easier than climbing up top with a 5 gal. fuel can, the filling spout rusts. This is a very well known and well covered problem on all the owner's forums. Replacing the thing isn't hard, but at JD prices, not fun either.
I really like your videos! 😎
Cool! :)
Thanks for the feedback!
I own the 3025E!! Great tractor!!
Yes, I have one of those in stock right now. Very nice machine indeed :) Thanks for watching!
@@GoodWorksTractors Thanks for putting in the time!!
What's the difference between them both to 2011 2520 with 200cx loader 62d mower
What is the rear track width of the 2 units? The older unit seems to have wider tires and a wider track width than the new one?
Good question. I believe they are the same size, but I will have to check. I know the older generation (2x20) had larger rear tires than the 2025r.
I was about to pull the trigger till I noticed the loader “degrade”. I currently have two kubota BX sub compacts and lift has been a limitation all year using them commercially. I liked the H130 but noticed some of the losers were the newer 120 series which I didn’t understand at first. Why make a larger tractor with the same loader as the sub compact? Maybe too many broken or warranty front ends. Who knows but I’m out for sure.
@goodworkstractor Do you know when JD plans to redesign the current 2025r? They seem to do this in 3-4 year cycles
I wouldn't expect a major update for quite some time.
what about power wise and torque? I heard the new has a lot more more/toque
From what I've read and cross checked against Tractor Data, the rated HP of the new version is slightly lower and it operates at a slightly higher RPM. I'm going to surmise that torque is quite similar as well.
One thing I noticed as you were doing the walk around. The older one has right and left brakes. Glad to see you back. You must have been busy. BTW, I like the new one better.
Yes, great eye! Not many folks use splits brakes anymore which is probably why they got rid of them. However, there's still some who highly value that feature.
It was an extremely busy summer and I just couldn't keep up with the videos unfortunately. Starting to slow down a little bit now so you should see more of me here. Thanks for sticking around ;)
@@GoodWorksTractors I have an older 2010 2320 (pretty much the same tractor as the Gen1 2025) with the independent brakes and wouldn't want a tractor without them...I find myself in tight situations in my woods fairly often and can turn that thing darn near like a skid steer. Do by any chance know the spec difference between the H130 vs 200CX loaders?
Hi......how does the 120R loader compare to the older 200CX as far as lift capacity? Thanks
Good question. It lifts several hundred pounds less and to a lower height. The 200cx and H130 replacement is actually the 220r loader. However, the redesigned 2025r tractor uses the smaller loader (120r) that is found on the 1025r. I can't figure out why John Deere chose to go this route.
I hate to hear that was wanting to upgrade but my loader is at its max height for lifting pallets on and off of the racks in my shop and also loading our 1 ton dump so I really worry that this might be a problem for me. Thanks for the reply I appreciate it.
Very welcome!
can you do a video showing the difference between the 2025r and the other 2 series tractors?
Hi Jason,
Hopefully someday, but I'll have to get all three models in stock at the same time. Thanks for watching!
@@GoodWorksTractors I completely understand. My local dealer doesn't have any 2 series in stock. Thanks for the reply.
2025r with loader and mid mower - I got my first john deere about 2 weeks ago, have nothing but trouble, it only has 1 hour on it. When I first bought it, when I went in reverse, it would shut down the mower, now when I go in reverse, it turns off both deck and the engine. just one of the issues
What you are experiencing is a John Deere Safety feature. You have to hold up on your PTO switch when going in reverse or it will shut down.
That is a super easy "fix" for a non-issue
I cant get over the peddles are plastic.
I drive the old 2025 and I hate it. It's like a rock on wheels.
The slightest bump or crack or even twig will make the tractor shake and the bucket, which is very loud.
I do however, like how smooth the loader works compared to our 2 sizes up Kubota. It is so clunky and not as user friendly. Keep in mind I am not an seasoned operator.
U need to listen up..mmmkaa!
nice to see JD downgrading the loader....NOT... Pay more and get less. at least they finally moved the damn fuel fill to where its not PIA to get to. I have the older 2015. looks to me that they are trying to turn it into a 1025r so people will buy the 3 series instead. i would never buy another JD because of all the electrical issues i have had with mine and its only got 31 hours on it. all new tractors these days are junk so you might as well buy the color with the cheapest price tag on it. JD 2,3,4 series are not made in the USA either. not sure about the 5 series
Bevis Butthead I can't figure out the reasoning for the design of the 2025r. I can tell you the new 2032r and 2038r are awesome machines. Seems everyone that has one of those songs high praises about them.
. Good Works Tractors - my 2015 was my first tractor purchase and i didn't know what i was doing. i need more tractor. somewhere between 35-40 hp. and my FEL cylinder leak down is so bad I'm scared to stand under it. all these under 60hp are built overseas. india in the case of JD. color only equates to $$$$ not quality. it would not shock me at all to find out that the JD's and mahindra and whomever, are built on the same line and painted a different color. I'm not sure what the hell the purpose of a 2025r with a 1 series loader on it is. i have to wonder if JD built the new 2025r with a less capable front end and then put the H120 loader on it. who knows. what i do know is that i will never buy a tractor because of color ever again. oh, if kubota would just put 2 damn pedals on their tractors but they refuse to no matter how many sales they loose because of that damn tredle pedal
No such thing as a perfect tractor in my opinion. You're always sacrificing something.