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Interesting review. Thank you. I bought a 2012 1026R new. It's been a great little tractor and does everything I need it to do. I put a 54" snow blower on the front and it's done a great job moving snow during winter. When the Mauser cabs came out a few years ago, I spent the $5200 to have one installed on my tractor. At 73 it's been a life saver during the cold weather. The overhead heater works great too. Summer time the doors come right off and the front and rear windows provide the much needed air. The 60 inch belly mower makes short work of my one acre lawn but it's lacking in suspension out in the pasture. I use to run a Frontier rear brush cutter but it got so little use, I sold it recently for more than I paid for it new. Same went for the box blade. My 1026R has a bit over 160 hours on it and is still running like new. PAPE took over the local John Deere here in Yakima Washington. Getting into their service department for routine service is terrible. They don't make service appointments. You have to drop your equipment and they will get to it when they can. Frankly, their service department sucks. Again, thank you for your video.
I got to be honest, everyone makes a big deal about the loader lever location on the 1025 vs 3025, but I have never felt like I needed an arm rest while operating my bucket on my 3025. And, I have never been fatigued reaching over and using it on half day projects.
The 3025E has a larger displacement engine than the 1 and 2 series. If I remember correctly the 1 & 2 series has the same 74 cid engine and the 3E has a 100 cid engine that produces 14 more lb ft of torque than the smaller tractors. I bought a 3025E in 2017 when they first launched. I got the intro price. They sell for $7000 more than I paid now. I've put 754 hours on it and I haven't had a single issue with it so far.
I love my 3025e. I have found it can handle a lot more than expected. I have run a 60” cutter, grapple, 72” box blade, 60” blade, 60” rake, and recently purchased a post driver to try on it. It does everything I ask of it. 👍
Traded in my 2019 1025R for a new 3025E this past January. Found I was not using all the "bells and whistles" on the 1025R. Enjoy the extra weight and stabilty of the 3025E. Between the loaded tires and a weight box it added about 1100 lbs. of ballast. I love the tractor, perfect for my needs. Price was very reasonable, there were some rebates available. Courtney, as always, appreciate the information you provide. Thank you!!
what do you think about the difference in the seats and the position of the loader control? I have the 1025 and thinking of doing the same. also what about difference in power?
@@anthonymorrison2167 Hi Anthony the 3025E seems to have a bit more power, both loader and 3 point have more capacity than the 1025R, suggest you compate on the build and price app on JD site. I love the 3025E. I did not notice any difference in the seat or the loader control, but I generally only use it an hour or so at a time. I bought mine in January, price has gone up. They discounted the list price by 10% and allowed me $16,900 for my 1025R with loader, frame mounted plow, 3rd function valve and weight box. If I can provide any additional information please reach out! Good Luck! Bob
@@bobnarrus3218 I did the exact same thing, went from a 1026r to a 3025e and the only two gripes I have is no arm rests and no belly mower option. Other than that, I love the 3025e. Extra torque, more capable, stronger loader, etc.
@@joeyschoenfeld6958 Arm rests would be nice, belly mower not a problem for me; I didn't mow with my 1025R either. I wonder if the 3 series would be too heavy to mow a lawn with? Just wondering!
Your comment about different tractors and different attachments reminded me of my grandfather who decided it was to much trouble to switch out attachments on his 8N so he just bought a different tractor for the three he used most. Lol. Some of my uncles still have those tractors and if memory serves they are all still running with the same attachments still on them.
Bought my 2021 2025R last fall and absolutely love it. The ground clearance difference between the 1025/2025R was the biggest seller for me. I bought mine with the backhoe and it just made since to go 2025R with that set up. I love it and personally it has felt “tippy” to me. I feel whatever they did engineering wise to counter this worked Very well.
Fair comparison. 2025R 2nd gen owner add’l thoughts… The 2025R handles 5’ box blade, rakes, rear blades easily. Bigger rear tire contact patch and R4 deeper tread means a bit more pulling traction. But 25hp has limits to ground engagin/pulling on every machine… Go up in size to do really heavy pulling with 2 bottom plows for example. Handles a 4’ bush hog very well and importantly gets you up above taller vegetation and most of the dust that 1025R does not do as well. Fits in my garden, through gates and tight spots in the trees better at 4’ wide. Think this bit through, as its no good to have big equipment you cant get to the work! Handles very good sized trees with a grapple (10’ long pines, brush piles, etc). Has a bit larger hydraulic pump than 1025R, but not significantly more. Search UA-cam to see how to measure pressure and dial up the hydraulics to max OEM spec to add 10-20% more lift force though to get best balance of performance and longevity. Ballast is essential as noted since the center of gravity is higher, so that’s the main downside. Price is certainly dramatically less than the larger 2 series “R” machines by $7,500 or more! After 2 years ownership, still a huge fan of my 2025R! But if you can afford to go bigger (and pay for bigger/pricier $ trailer to pull it, more expensive attachments, more maintenance $, etc), then go bigger of course!
I feel like the 2025r gets a lot of hate. I am a fellow 2025r owner and I feel like it’s a great tractor. I feel like it takes all the advantages he talks about with the 1025r and adds more to it. According to JD’S website there is a 2600 dollar difference in price between the two. I don’t think that’s bad. Considering you get a 25% increase in 3 point lift capacity.
I really love my 2025R. The 1025 was too small for me, I felt cramped on it compared to the 2025R. I also like that I have more ballast weight because of the larger tires in the back. I am 6 foot two and about 290 pounds and could not fit in the cab of the 1025R.
I agree i also have the 2020 2025r and find it hands down a better tractor to the low sitting 1025r this video was an opinionated bash on a good tractor which i doubt he has spent much time on
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, everyone loves what they have but I think that's the point, the 2025 is just taller, the 1025 will actually lift more with the loader at the pins and they have the same exact breakout point. 2025 has more ground clearance and weighs more by about 400-500lbs . If the 1025 isn't big enough tractor it's worth going to a 3 series, the 1025 to 2025 isn't much of a jump other than bigger tires. I have a Kubota L-series with a cab and sometimes go grab my father's 1025 cause it's lower to the ground and less tippy. I can see going to a 2025 just to get the cab but again not knowing the prices , could again be worth going to the 3025.
Have a 2022 2025R, very pleased with it, mow hunting areas like trails and open grass areas with it? Bought Frontier RC 2048 to cut grass and tall weeds/brush and it works well. For more open areas use a tow behind DR Pro Max52T (52" wide cut) field and brush mower with 22hp engine. My 2025R has no issue pulling it with front end loader and bucket attached for ballast. Really glad I went with the 2025R.
This video reminded me of the decisions I faced when buying my first tractor. After buying a small ranch, I purchased a 3025E. My dealer assured me it would handle 4’ round bales. It moved them, but it struggled. I ended up trading it in on a 3033R, which seemed to work better, but of course I now had to deal with the dreaded regen process. A year later, my hay supplier changed. I had to move with 5’ round bales instead of 4’. The 3033R initially handled these larger bales, but I started to have hydraulic issues. I eventually traded the 3033R in on a 4052R. The 4 series is a much heavier tractor and it’s loader is beefier, so handling large bales is now a non-issue. Based on your advice, I recently bought a Worksaver ETG-26 grapple, something the two smaller machines wouldn’t have been able to handle. My John Deere dealer worked with me on both of my upgrades and gave me what I paid for on my trade-in’s.
Looked at all 3 and purchased a 3025E, wanted a tractor that I wouldn’t over work taking care of my 6 acre property… perfect so far! Happy I made the choice of going with the bigger tractor over the bells and whistles. Great video! Thanks!!👊🏻
I have 7 1/2 acres though and having a 60-inch mower deck is also key because it needs to be able to do more than one or two things. I I want it to be able to mow move a little bit of dirt, and have a rear mount snowblower. Because I want to be able to have the loader and the snow blower on at the same time.
I bought and use my 3025e when I started my grading business and I have used it to spread 300 tons of stone material for driveways and parking lots. It has more than payed for itself. Also use it to brush hog properties that I manage cuts through 6 foot tall brush(not like a hot knife through butter but good enough) I am genuinely impressed with these compact tractors. They are work horses for sure.
Another great video - thank-you! Looking forward to, as always, the next one! I took delivery of my 2021 2025R Gen2 14 months ago. At the time, there was a $3K cost difference between the 1025R & 2025R. I live on a few acres in the northwest that are mostly forest. The 1025R would have met all of my needs very well, but there were three features of the 2025R Gen2 that justified the additional $3K in cost - that into low, middle, and high prIority categories. Low priority - this is about aesthetics and not much else. I prefer the larger tires (espec. the rear) on the 2025R versus the smaller tires on the 1025R. The larger tires are more ??"tractory"?? than smaller tires. No, ain't gonna to defend this - it's about aesthetics and not logic. (I'd assign 10% of the $3K) Middle priority - Operator station - I preferred the 2025R over the 1025R. The adjectives short, petite, tiny, skinny do not apply to this tractor owner. For myself, the operators station on the 2025R has more room and is more comfortable. The seat fits my non-petite frame better and is more comfortable than the 1025R seat. Also, there are a couple seat-side controls (PTO selector, for one) brought higher above the floor on the 2025R than on the 1025R - offering slightly easier access over the 1025R, (I'd assign 30% of the $3K) High Priority - Ground clearance. My property grows trees, himalayan blackberries (much hated) and rocks - ground clearance is a concern. The 1025R ground clearance MIGHT BE sufficient to clear SOME obstacles I may encounter. On the other hand - The 2025R ground clearance IS sufficient to clear MOST obstacles I may encounter. "Might be" vs "is" sufficient and "some" vs "most" obstacles. This was my primary deciding factor in 2025R vs 1025R. (I'd assign 60% of the $3K) These are my reasons for spending the additional $3K and after having my 2025R for a year & know what I know now - I'd make the same decision. 2021 2025R, Grapple AV20F, Forks HLA Light Wt (GWT), Box Blade BB2048, Wood Chipper WC46, Dethatcher (GWT), Rotary mower RC2048, MM Mower 60D, Summit Hydraulics Rear Remote Kit (2 spools), Hydraulic top link. Filled tires, ballast box, mirrors (GWT), suitcase weights 42# (GWT), replacement led bulbs (GWT), etc. Thank-you, GWT!!
Well written. Those were my 3 top pro's of the 2025R as well. I bought mine brand new TLB with radial tire upgrade for 23.9k in 2021. My dealer wanted 36k for a 2032R TLB. And 21.5k for the 1025R
My 2025R arrives in 2 days. GWT you scared me with your review. I watched another UA-cam 1025R v 2025R review and felt better. As was said, clearance, weight, length, width, tire size, are positives. Regarding a feeling of tippiness, while sitting higher probably means a higher center of gravity, the additional weight, width and length would to an unknown extent counter the height. Get a really big fish scale and hook up to the ROPS and see what you find! lol I l LOVE GWT!
I have a 3025D, and I believe it is the best 25 hp tractor out there. It is gear drive only, has a cast iron rear end, and weighs 300 lbs more than the 3025E, the Kubota L2501, and the Mahindra 1626.
Hi Courtney. Very cute puppy! May I suggest something for her training? Dogs don't learn as quickly or as well when the handler repeats the command over and over. She just gets confused and then ignores you. Give the command once, and gently put her in the position. Then, praise her a bunch! After a few seconds, release her, or she will quickly learn to release herself. Best of luck with that sweetie!
I have a 2021 3025E and I love it. I live in N Fl. My property is very wooded so I have lots of limbs and trees on the ground. Unfortunately I have had to dig a few graves for some of my critters. It did a great job. I have a Westendorf Brush Crusher grapple and that works great. My tires are loaded with water because it rarely freezes, if it does it's only at night. I thought about all of those models and the 3025E was for me. For mowing I use a JD 110
Corey, Love your channel I've been subscribed for a year or more now as long as I've been tractor shopping. I respect your option but you know what they say about options. Even though you don't like the 2025R I'm not going to cancel you as some people would you provide people great information in making an informed decision on there purchases. I ended up purchasing a 2025R and I love mine. It's a personal decision in the end. The take away to viewers is evaluate your needs as stated by Corey and Tim with TTWT, any of the brand dealers will gladly up sale you on your purchase on a larger tractor and larger implements in the end. The 2032R is 5K more than the 2025R along with the increased cost of implements.
I have a 2019 2025R, love it, 5 ft brush hog and box blade, no problem. I use 4 ft eguipment mostly as to not to over tax her, she is a small tractor so I keep that in mind. As far as loader height I thought about a 4 way bucket to help with that. I love her but I respect that she's a small tractor.
I have a 2020 33R and it is very tipsy. The 1025R is probably the most stable. One of the first thing’s most do when buying a compact tractor is spacers and filling the tires and wheel weights. It’s not just the 2025R Have you done a lift comparison between the 1025 and 2025R? Front and rear.
Hello, we bought a 3025d new with a loader. Now with 175 hours the tractor is amazing. It has tons of power and is great in the woods pulling logs. We had the tires loaded and I have installed a diverter kit. Using a small "work saver" grapple, this tractor will lift a huge log. We have a wood mill and 28 acres of woods, this machine feels like it can do it all. The 3025d clears tons of snow and grooms our trails, It has never felt tippy or gotten stuck. We also have a welding shop and use this tractor for all our heavy lifting. Great machine! Im stepping up from a case international 235 with a Frey loader.
Really been looking at a 3025. Have a commercial deere zero turn for mowing, which i prefer over a belly mower. The 3025 seems like a good balance for size and usage for front loader, backhoe, forks etc.
Just my 2 cents, the 2025r is a better purchase if your going to be in the woods. The height is ideal compared to the 1025 but I do agree the loader could have been beefed up. the 2025r is just a taller 1025 and to me a more practical tractor in the woods
@@GoodWorksTractors lol. You push bora wheel spacers in every video, and really should be used on most any small tractor you have them on your 1025R. I know first hand 1025R is not all that stable either without wheel spacers. LOL I would suggest putting wheel spacer on the 2025R, load the rear tires with ballast and then see what you think. My 2025R is very stable with 2" boras and weighted rear tires. I do admit with the Backhoe on I it is not near as stable as with a heavy hitch or nothing on the 3pt. The backhoe putts wight up high which is not the best ballast for off camber work.
@@jdfleetguy28 On the opposite side of that coin, the backhoe can be the, hands down, best ballast you can have for off camber work. Leverage is your friend. The backhoe is heavy. You can swing it to one side or the other to offset a grade. You could get really crazy and extend it out all the way, this increases the leverage and puts the weight down low. This will of course be space limited in some situations though and is obviously not a 'normal operating condition', but it works well in a pinch.
@@carlstrohm3785 I never thought of extending the boom and swinging it around to the uphill side. I had just pretty much given in to the idea of needing to take it off and put on one of my heavy hitches, if I was going to be doing loader work especially if it was off camber loader work. Very interesting, I will have to remember to try that backhoe counterweight trick at some point. We normally only have a few projects a year where the backhoe is needed, majority of the time my 2025R is configured with a quick out back. Thanks for the tip.
I don't know in the US, but in Canada, machines 25 HP and under are covered under a home owner's insurance policy as long as it's only used for personal on the property only. I trailer mine between the house and summer spot, so I still got insurance for my 1025R.
@@GoodWorksTractors Yes, they are covered under your HO Policy and in fact your dealer should have told you to contact your insurance carrier when you buy your machine to have it added, as mine did. The Policy only covers you for work you do, at YOUR property, not anyone else's. That is a whole different policy. ( I was a licensed P&C Adjuster here in VT,NH, CT and ME. And Yes, E stands for Economy line, and R is the premium class. Deere has an M and I believe 1 other class in the bigger machines, 4 and up.
@@grattonland Interesting. I was asked, but don't recall having to produce proof before. I did call my carrier as soon as I got home. Which was before I actually took delivery of my machine.
I have a 3025D and I love it. Bought it recently but it has been great. It’s heavier than the 3025e and more robust(parts wise). It takes a little getting used to but once you figure it out it is fine. Use it for a lot of loader work right now but will doing some fairly serious ground engagement work soon
I went with the 2025R due to the tires/wheels. My farm in Hawai'i is often muddy and the native grass gets deep quick, the larger tires are a lifesaver on the back fields of the yard for sure. The price difference wasn't horrible (2800 bucks).
Man, I’m hurt! You must have had a large glass of Hatorade before making this! 😂 I absolutely LOVE my gen 2 2025r. I bought it as a TLB package last July. For my purposes, I wanted the width of the 1025, but I needed more ground clearance. I have had no instances where I have felt unstable in it either. I have however felt that over and over on my buddy’s NH Workmaster 35. I ended up going with a 3049 Frontier tiller because the JD 655 could not be had at the time and I really felt like the 3062 would have been a stretch. My box blade, rear blade, and landscape rake are all 60” and they all feel just right when using. If I have the scarifiers fully sunk, and a full box of gravel or dirt, I can stop the 2025, but that’s not how I operate the box blade, so it’s a non issue. This past weekend, I ran my buddy’s 60” brush hog. I had been a little concerned that it would have been too much, but I really wasn’t able to bog it down in waist high grass. I put it in some 3/4-1” brush and the tractor never flinched. My other concern was the weight of the brush hog because it’s bounces my buddy’s tractor around when lifting and lowering. I was pleasantly surprised at how stable it was, and I had just enough ground clearance at the rear wheel to get on my car hauler trailer. All of that said, a 3025 would handle my lot of implements and then some, but it would have been too large for some of the situations I work in.
I'm 58 yo & I've been operating Tractors & heavy construction equipment since I was 12 years old. I still haven't bought my tractor as yet but when I do....... I will be going with the 2025R. I've spent 10 hrs on both the 1025R and the 2025R working them on my property. I've also looooonnnnnnggg researched both models and I disagree. It's all these things that make the 2025R feel MORE stable because it's slightly longer, slightly wider, slightly taller, has alot bigger tires, has a slightly larger operators station, a heavier, beefier frame AND the hydraulic pump puts out a higher gpm then the 1025R does, meaning it can lift about 200 lbs more & lift it about 6" higher. Which means alot storing attachments on shelving in my shop. Also when it comes to stability, one has to be constantly thinking about what your doing & what your trying to achieve. My dad taught me to operate by the 'bubble in the seat of my ass', meaning if you feel like your approaching instability, then stop & go no further. Machines are ALWAYS smarter then their operators are, ya just need to quit listening to outside distractions & listen to what all the machine is telling you!!!
Glad you found the tractor for you. Always welcome to disagree. You won't find me ever purchasing one to use. I've used them enough while having them in stock and it reaffirms my hatred every time I use it, haha! Enjoy!
I am amazed at the lift capacity of my 3025e with the Brush Crusher grapple. The deign keeps the load close to the tractor and therefore maximizing the lift capacity.
Traded in my 1025R two years ago for a 3038E. Best decision I could've made! We never realized that we needed more size and power versus all the bells and whistles. After about 350 hours, the only real downside that I can see about the 3E series is the seat. I do sorely (🤣) miss the seat of the 1025R. Complain all you want about the regen system, but it doesn't make that much difference and really doesn't occur all that often.
I had to decide between a 1025R and a 2025R and for me it was the 2025R hands down. You get a heavier tractor, larger tires, more ground clearance, better operator position, for me it was worth it. My only regret is not getting the 2038R lol. You know what they say, the only thing you'll regret about getting a tractor is you didn't get a larger one :) I don't mow with my tractor mind you, so I don't care about that at all. Maybe if you mow the 1025R is a better choice, but for the price of the 1025R mower deck you can buy a zero turn which is going to do a WAY better job a LOT faster (which is what I did :) ) I also do a lot of ground work, including plowing, middle busting, tilling, loader work, etc. so the height, tires and ground clearance make more of a difference to me than perhaps others... If I were to do it over again though, I'll admit, I'd consider the 3025E. I've found hitch capacity and loader weight capacity to be issues for me. A 3046R would be perfect but I just can't justify that cost.
My wife's 48" Bad Boy runs circles around my 2025r with 60" RFM and cuts better too. But I will say if you can't afford a ZT, get the drive-over deck and don't waste money on an RFM. Buy once, cry once.
You could not have written this better, the exact reasons I chose my new 2025r. I own a Christmas tree farm so the ground clearance for new plantings was essential as was the width to flail mow my rows. If the 2025r had the lift capacity and rear pto power of 2038 that would be my dream tractor.
My first tractor is a 1025R and its amazing. Even tho i could use a bigger tractor, i'll keep the 1025R and buy a 4 or 5 series. There's no point of trading in this machine, its so much practical and plenty of power for the size.
I have roughly 6 acres with animal pastures, manure piles, road maintenance, cutting in new roads and swales and I'm always glad I went with a Kubota L2501 instead on a LX or JD 1 series. The added capacity, weight and stability was critical to me. I think the 1025 would be the perfect landscape/smaller acreage tractor to get into the tighter spots
I just got my 3025e yesterday! Sweet ride. The pto switch seems to have a rear, middle and hold position. If I’m Not running pto what position should be it be in. Great video thx Courtney
Great video. I've had a JD 2305 and I now have a 2025R and they both are tippy. I know guys that have a 1025 and say the same thing. Other brands and the same size??? Tippy! Use some sort of weight in the back and wheel spacers...makes a HUGE difference.
ive got the H130 on my 2016 2025r. loaded tires etc. it doesnt have all the newer bells and whistles but its a beast. when i used my neighbors 1025r for a bit, it felt significantly less beefy and capable. putting the 25hp to the ground is important, the ride height of 2025 is a plus in woods too..
Mine is a used 2013. Didn't realize the new ones require removing the 3-pt to install the backhoe. I want so badly to hate the thing for being too heavy for an affordable trailer but every time I turn around I find another use for it. lol
Curious if JD uses different displacement 25 HP engines like Kubota does? The B2501 uses a 1 Liter 25 HP engine and the B2650 (now LX series) uses a 1.3 Liter 25HP engine. Obviously a larger displacement will generate more torque and peak HP is usually achieved a little lower in rpm.
Initially I wanted to get the 1025R, but Ag and Turf didn’t carry it at my location, and the 2025R was there with the step up in hp. Ultimately the R’s selling point to me would be the center PTO and option to get the precision belly mower, that is until I realized for the price of that convenience I could get the top series 0 turn and have money left over to do the same thing. Because of this large gap in price, I bought the 3025E with a 4’ tiller and 5’ frontier cutter (having the bigger frame allowed for the bigger cutter as well). For the money and practicality the 3025E just made sense. I’m excited to use it!
Great comparison video. I went shopping for a 1025 when we bought property, told the dealer I had no need for the midmount mower, he said the 3025 would be a better and more cost effective choice to my needs. Been loving my 3025 since.
I bought the 3032E after using my friends 2025R and 2038R. I went with 3032E up from the 3025 because I live in steep terrain and the extra HP helps out with the hydrostatic trans. I brush hog a lot on hills and the few extra HP makes a big difference.
Couple of points about the 2025R. First, even though the loaders are the same the 2025R does lift slightly more due to increased hyd pressure. Secondly, everyone seems to complain how the 1025R is not able to lift the mower deck high enough at full height. The 2025R solves this problem. I also agree, the bigger tires and longer wheelbase make all the difference in nearly every operating aspect. Who wants a tractor with lawn mower tires? All this for 2600-3K more IMO doesn't put this machine in the terrible class. I also found it's not any more tippy (stock) than a 1025R and I've owned both. "Feeling" tippy and the physics of the actual machine are two different things, and I'm sure JD has done more engineering than you or I sitting on the seat. The 1025R is designed for a lawn, the 2025R can be sent out in the woods and rough terrain. If I had the choice between the two, I'd choose the 2025R because it's a 1025R... just better. All for slightly more overall. It's not a 10k price jump. Also, the "E" series have terrible bucket break out force. Look up the specs, the 120R loader has more. I used a 3038E and felt the loader was terrible because of this and really hindered the machine. I actually felt I could do more with the 2025R or 1025R. Personally, I'd skip any E series. Thanks for the video.
Went with the 1025R for a few reasons: - I don't need larger, I have a bit more than 3 acres to manage divided into 2 places. 1.25 acres at home, and 2ish acres at our summer place. While I do a lot of landscaping at both places right now, long term will be primarily mowing and snow removal. A larger tractor would help with the landscaping only if I could have a larger bucket for the loader. - I removed all the stumps last year with my friend's 3 series Kubota, so when I bought a tractor this year, I didn't need the extra ground clearance to work through stumps. - Money, it's always about money. The smaller one was cheaper
1. the 1025R & the 2025R have IDENTICAL engines , yes Identical. The 3025D and 3025E are bigger engines ( over 100 cu in) and have a LOT more TORQUE than the 1 or 2 series. The 3D and E have a LOT more ground clearance. for snow and dirt work). I have run them all and owned all but the D.
I have had 1025R, 2025R, and 2038R, 3033R, 3039R, 3046R. Personally of the 2 25Hp machines and the one I still have today, is the 2025R. To me the 2025R is the ultimate SCUT, which is the same as the GEN 2 as seen in today video which is what I have as well, it is classed the in the same Sub Compact tractor by Deere same as the 1025R. To me the 2025R is the ultimate 1025R or SCUT.
Say what???? Newsflash, the 2025r is a CUT, not a SCUT. So says Deere! www.deere.com/en/tractors/compact-tractors/2-series-compact-tractors/2025r/ 2025r over the 2038r? Yikes...give me the Kubota LX3310 though, haha! Ooooo :)
@@GoodWorksTractors The old Gen 1 2025R was a CUT the Gen 2 is a SCUT. This comes up all the time on GTT. Gen 2 is a SCUT same class as the 1025R. It shares almost all its components with the 1025R, except the stretched 1025R frame, to accommodate the larger tires and still fit a MMM.
@@bigbasslakeKaten I have 2" Boras and 54" deck, but that said my 54" deck is shaped different from the 60". The 60" raps back out to the side of right rear tire a bit which puts the anti-scalp wheel in close proximity to the right rear tire. We had a long discussion last week on GTT with pics of other 2025R owners that had 60" MMM and they were clearing 2" no problem, there was a guy running a 3" but that one was really close, and to close for comfort IMO, the deck does flex and float around bit as the terrain changes under it. For your own piece of mind, I would measure the distance from the outer sidewall over to that anti-scalp wheel, and I recommend leaving yourself at least 1-2" buffer. Your spacer you chose will move that side wall the exact distance of the spacer you purchase. 2" will be exactly 2" closer. The buffer zone as I call it is to allow your deck some room to flex and float a bit and still contact that rear tire.
Hey big man , I'm looking at buying a 2025R soon , and at my SunSouth dealer here in Montgomery Al. they talk very highly of you and your knowledge and products , I've learned a lot watching your videos , and will soon be buying some of your products , keep the videos coming .
I was really happy to see this video. I like my 1025r but I've really considered trading for a 3038e. I'm having trouble with the loader mounted joystick. I just don't k ow if I can do it. I need more ground clearance. I use my 1025r more like a skidder than a SCUT.
Do you think the difference in peak torque rpm and engine size makes a difference between the 1025 and the 3025? 3200 rpm on the 1025 as opposed to the 2400 rpm on the 3025 series. Serious 'grunt' work is more for the 3025. They all have their place.
My 2007 X728 (gas) is 27HP and does a hell of a job mowing and simple maintenance around the house, but I'm outgrowing it and am about to purchase more property (~15 acres) and could benefit from a 3pt hitch and rear PTO. I'm leaning towards a 2038R, but, man, are they pricey!
I want to find a good used 2032 do I have to get an 18 and up to add a backhoe 👍 👍 thanks (I really need a tractor that grades and mows so I think a 25 horse would be to small for grading)
I have a 7 acre property. On a 4.5 acre yard i want to plant corn for animal feed. i need a small tractor for tilling this 4.5 acres of yard, moving firewood, mowing 2 acres, dig up trenches and ditches with a backhoe and transporting all kinds of materials with the loader. which series of john deere tractor should i buy : series 1, 2, 3, or 4 ?
2025R is the route I went. I am 6'3" tall and 250 Lbs and I simply do not fit well in the seat of a 1025R. My long legs would hit the loader control and that alone was the reason I went with the 2025R. I opted for the backhoe and the 60" quick connect mower as well. I would like a larger/stronger machine but with the ability to quickly remove and install the backhoe, loader and mower it cannot be beat for me.
I heard from one of the dealers in my area that you can get an after market AC for the 1025r but have yet to see one just wondering if anyone has seen one with AC yet
I purchased a 2025R with Cab the end of this winter. (it gets really cold in South Dakota.) I wanted it specifically to put the 54" Heavy Duty front 3-point snow blower. (What a beast let me tell you.) I have about 200 x 200-foot (maybe a bit bigger) section of very rough land and would like to smooth out to mow. What would you suggest? I have no rear attachments at this point.
Interesting…with my 2025r I haven’t been in a situation where I’ve felt l was unbalanced stability-wise, but in terms of side to side ride quality it helped when I put 2.5” BORA spacers on. I was going to get a 1025r but as soon as I sat on a 2025r it just felt more right for me. Maybe it’s because I’m 6’2” or I just preferred the extra seat height, but the operator station just felt roomier to me. I consider it sort of a different model of the 1025r…kind of like a crew cab pickup vs a supercab.
Absolutely, I have owned both and the 2025R is better than the 1025R in almost every way. Smoother ride, as you noticed as well better ergonomics. The 2025R is very stable with my 2" Bora's and weighted rear tires. I liked the higher seating position for improved visibility. The 2025R is the ultimate SCUT IMO.
Wheel spacers make a big difference....there is a theme here amongst many comments....spacers! Solving a problem that is more prevalent on the 2025r than possibly any other modern tractor model.
@@GoodWorksTractors Not sure the 2025R is the worst, maybe so with that backhoe , but without the backhoe its not near as bad as a Cab 3R . I would say Cab model 3Rs are the most unstable off the lot of any small tractor. 3" spacers weighted tires tends solve the issues on the Cab 3Rs. I have Boras on all my small tractors 2R,3R, and 4Rs
@@GoodWorksTractors I do. I am having fun too. However, it is a SCUT not a CUT. I do agree Deere made a bit of mess of things naming it a 2025R when the Gen 1 was a totally different machine even a different class machine. Deere does call the Gen 2 2025R a SCUT right in the 2 series brochure. It is really nothing but an enhanced 1025R. Stretched 1 series frame, to accommodate the bigger tires the rest is about the same other than the ergonomic seem to work out better on the 2025R smoother ride more comfortable seating position etc. See page 3 of the 2 series John Deere Brochure. Deere calls the 2025R a SCUT. www.deere.com/assets/publications/index.html?id=849f923c#3
I get what you're saying about the 2025R but having bigger tires is a huge difference in loose gravel, dirt , and snow as well as being a little less bumpy on rough terrain due to the larger diameter wheels. I do gravel driveways professionally and own a 1025R. I just sold the 5' land plane because it doesn't have the ponies to pull it loaded down (which is the same as the 2025R I know), and was always slipping the tires in loose gravel because of the much smaller diameter. I may or may not get the 4' model. If I were to do the 25 hp thing all over again, I think I'd do the 3 series. But then again, it is still only 25hp and would probably go for the the 3032E or 3038E with the same frame size and weight.
I love my 2025R, but I felt like I needed the heft of it for dealing with moving my dock and boat lift up and down the ramp, and the smaller tractor was just a little bit overmatched by it. The bigger wheels also are not nothing, but you make some solid points. They just don't apply to how I use it.
Very nice! Yeah, 60" belly mower too. If you are a master of your craft, you can get away with larger attachments. The vast majority of owners are not and do not need to push the limits.
I purchased a John Deere 3025D and it’s been the perfect tractor for me. I really like the shuttle shift and its simplicity. It seems to be a tractor that can last a long time with few problems.
Good to hear some that's bought the 3025D model. I've been interested in that particular model due to it being direct drive tractor and also seems like the perfect size for my needs. I've been wanting to know how well the bucket operation is and if it has a multi function bucket ie Lift while dumping or curling buck?. May sound like a silly question but I drove a jd compact tractor a few years back that had single function operation bucking and felt that it wasn't very productive
I have a 1025 R a2022 I have a bush hog and I leave it at the camp and my neighbor has a kioty and want to use my bush hog will it fit and ps I love the 1025r just the right size for a small home sted
I have a 2018 1025R. When I added a rear quick hitch I found I didn't need to cut the drive shaft for my Woods reverse rotation tiller. The quick hitch gave me 4 1/2 inch's more distance from the pto shaft= no cutting. The woods reverse rotation rototiller is a beast, and does better then the standard rotation tillers in every way. Well worth the extra bucks for it. As for the 54 inch quick attach belly mount mower, what a piece of crap. I should have just got a rear attach finish mower like I used to have. Hindsight...
Just purchased a 3025E, which I’m not seeing much on UA-cam until now. Awhile back you posted about the 2025 and step/handle accessories and such, is there some for the 3025E?
Removing the loader from 3E's is a non-starter for me. I had a 2011 3038E and taking that loader off is a major project. I used it for round bales, but I sensed that I was pushing the machine to its max, so I traded it in for a Bobcat CT4050.
@@Formulabruce It has a quick disconnect like Deere, Kubota, Kioti have. Drop the support legs, pull the pins on the loader mounts and disconnect the hoses.
I have a 2016 1025R and the only real shortcoming I find with it is the height. Don't get me wrong, I bought it for it's low height because I needed to mow under trees. But the height real becomes noticeable when you have an attachment hooked to the back, and your backing off the trailer. I've since learned to just make sure the ramps are more straight by unloading on a hill or a small ditch. But I've done my share of scraping the lower end of the backhoe getting it off the trailer. I can see where the 2025R would address this issue, but at the cost of stability and otherwise the clearance you would have had with smaller tires. All in all, I would never get rid of my 1025R, it has been a fantastic tractor, and I just find more and more uses for it all the time, and it's been super reliable once John Deere acknowledged the air filter bracket problem on the eariler models. I never broke the valve cover, because right away I noticed that it was loose and put blue loctite on the nuts, but I was constantly breaking that rubber strap that holds the filter box. The updated box is a much better design.
Would have been useful to include a x7. For a lot of folks it’s all they need. I used one for several years with a front quick hitch, plow & pallet forks, then on the 3 point I ran a tiller, dethatcher and grader blade.
I didn't have one here. I'm not actually a John Deere dealer, I just like tractors :) I've done at least one comparison between the x700 Series and 1 Series though. Here's a link. ua-cam.com/video/HuCAAigEPq0/v-deo.html
@@GoodWorksTractors I figured you didn’t have one, especially one with a quick hitch and 3 point. I ended up moving to a 1025 this year because I needed a front loader, but I did a lot of work with the x7 over a couple of years.
I have a 3043 D, I know its not a 25, but people, don't overlook the D series. It has shuttle shift and its an absolute beast. Not losing any power to a hydrostatic transmission is huge. Its one possible turn off is not having a live PTO, but after running a mower on it last week, it's no problem. It is the smoothest starting PTO I've ever seen on a utility tractor.
Yes I shall agree, the extra height of the 2025 makes it a more uncomfortable ride, and sometimes ya get that tippy fee;ing too... I don't mind being the black sheep having the 2025 series, however when it comes to grapple work, I'll out perform the 1025 lol... Thumbs up to you and your company always.
I agree with you that the John Deere 1025 tractor is a very nice machine but its not the be-all end-all of sub compact tractors. I’ll put my Massey Ferguson GC1725 up against one any day of the week and twice on Sunday. There’s more out there than just green and orange.
One thing on the 1025R and 2025R that is incorrect in this video is that both of those tractors have a limited Cat 1 hitch as they cannot lift to the full height of the Cat 1 specification. It's not going to matter if you're trying to decide between them but if the 3025E is also on the shopping list then it "wins" that particular category. Being an owner of a 2025R I have to disagree with your assessment. :) However, I will say that you're one of the first that I know of that has experience with both that likes the 1025R more. I do agree though that the premium does make it a challenge when deciding between the two as you don't really get that much more. As I said in another comment I ended up with mine because the 2025R just fit better. Which I'm okay paying a premium on for something that I'll use for decades.
I like my Kubota L4701, my BX2680 not so much. Neighbor has a 1025 R, doesn’t do anything I do any better than the BX. If I did it over I think I’d buy a Ventrac. All that said most of what you do our land doesn’t really allow, I don’t have a lawn to mow, I don’t have snow to deal with, mostly rough country brush hogging, digging, and FEL work.
I have Gen 1 2025R. I wouldn't never even think of "upgrading" it to Gen 2. Mine has stronger FEL, more capable backhoe, separate left/right breaks, to name a few advantages... Doesn't have tilt steering wheel, and 12V socket on the right side. I think I can live without those just fine. Wouldn't change it for a brand new 1025R either, for the same reasons, plus it is a lighter tractor with significantly smaller wheels and ground clearance. The 3 series are too big for my needs, so I'm very happy with my JD 2025R Gen 1 tractor.
If you have any work to do In the woods the extra ground clearance of the 2025 over the 1025 is worth it by itself it’s like off roading in a stock truck vs a lifted truck making it a lot less likely to get damage underneath. the other advantage is in the length it offsets heavy loads better the larger tires also allows for a lot more lbs of liquid ballast. But all things aside they are all great tractors. And the R models are like Swiss Army knives endless attachments and configurations.
John deere is the only one using there own quick coupler for the bucket all the other brands run skidsteer quick attach. So in really all other brands are more compatible to attachments
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What about the 1023E? Is it the best option for a small farm?
Interesting review. Thank you. I bought a 2012 1026R new. It's been a great little tractor and does everything I need it to do. I put a 54" snow blower on the front and it's done a great job moving snow during winter. When the Mauser cabs came out a few years ago, I spent the $5200 to have one installed on my tractor. At 73 it's been a life saver during the cold weather. The overhead heater works great too. Summer time the doors come right off and the front and rear windows provide the much needed air. The 60 inch belly mower makes short work of my one acre lawn but it's lacking in suspension out in the pasture. I use to run a Frontier rear brush cutter but it got so little use, I sold it recently for more than I paid for it new. Same went for the box blade. My 1026R has a bit over 160 hours on it and is still running like new. PAPE took over the local John Deere here in Yakima Washington. Getting into their service department for routine service is terrible. They don't make service appointments. You have to drop your equipment and they will get to it when they can. Frankly, their service department sucks. Again, thank you for your video.
I got to be honest, everyone makes a big deal about the loader lever location on the 1025 vs 3025, but I have never felt like I needed an arm rest while operating my bucket on my 3025. And, I have never been fatigued reaching over and using it on half day projects.
The 3025E has a larger displacement engine than the 1 and 2 series. If I remember correctly the 1 & 2 series has the same 74 cid engine and the 3E has a 100 cid engine that produces 14 more lb ft of torque than the smaller tractors. I bought a 3025E in 2017 when they first launched. I got the intro price. They sell for $7000 more than I paid now. I've put 754 hours on it and I haven't had a single issue with it so far.
That's great to hear! I pick up my '23 3025 in a few days
Had a 3033r. Sold it didn’t use it allot after building the house. Bought a 3032e. Wish I had never sold the r
I love my 3025e. I have found it can handle a lot more than expected. I have run a 60” cutter, grapple, 72” box blade, 60” blade, 60” rake, and recently purchased a post driver to try on it. It does everything I ask of it. 👍
Awesome, it is quite capable!
@@GoodWorksTractors yup, its pretty good for making the GWT top ten tractors you DONT WANT!! hehe...( "But I have sold the most of")
Traded in my 2019 1025R for a new 3025E this past January. Found I was not using all the "bells and whistles" on the 1025R. Enjoy the extra weight and stabilty of the 3025E. Between the loaded tires and a weight box it added about 1100 lbs. of ballast. I love the tractor, perfect for my needs. Price was very reasonable, there were some rebates available. Courtney, as always, appreciate the information you provide. Thank you!!
what do you think about the difference in the seats and the position of the loader control? I have the 1025 and thinking of doing the same. also what about difference in power?
@@anthonymorrison2167 Hi Anthony the 3025E seems to have a bit more power, both loader and 3 point have more capacity than the 1025R, suggest you compate on the build and price app on JD site. I love the 3025E. I did not notice any difference in the seat or the loader control, but I generally only use it an hour or so at a time. I bought mine in January, price has gone up. They discounted the list price by 10% and allowed me $16,900 for my 1025R with loader, frame mounted plow, 3rd function valve and weight box. If I can provide any additional information please reach out! Good Luck!
Bob
@@bobnarrus3218 I did the exact same thing, went from a 1026r to a 3025e and the only two gripes I have is no arm rests and no belly mower option. Other than that, I love the 3025e. Extra torque, more capable, stronger loader, etc.
@@joeyschoenfeld6958 Arm rests would be nice, belly mower not a problem for me; I didn't mow with my 1025R either. I wonder if the 3 series would be too heavy to mow a lawn with? Just wondering!
Your comment about different tractors and different attachments reminded me of my grandfather who decided it was to much trouble to switch out attachments on his 8N so he just bought a different tractor for the three he used most. Lol. Some of my uncles still have those tractors and if memory serves they are all still running with the same attachments still on them.
I just got an older but MINT John Deere 870 with 28hp. Pre-emission and a nice large frame. Loving it!
Bought my 2021 2025R last fall and absolutely love it. The ground clearance difference between the 1025/2025R was the biggest seller for me. I bought mine with the backhoe and it just made since to go 2025R with that set up. I love it and personally it has felt “tippy” to me. I feel whatever they did engineering wise to counter this worked Very well.
Fair comparison. 2025R 2nd gen owner add’l thoughts… The 2025R handles 5’ box blade, rakes, rear blades easily. Bigger rear tire contact patch and R4 deeper tread means a bit more pulling traction. But 25hp has limits to ground engagin/pulling on every machine… Go up in size to do really heavy pulling with 2 bottom plows for example. Handles a 4’ bush hog very well and importantly gets you up above taller vegetation and most of the dust that 1025R does not do as well. Fits in my garden, through gates and tight spots in the trees better at 4’ wide. Think this bit through, as its no good to have big equipment you cant get to the work! Handles very good sized trees with a grapple (10’ long pines, brush piles, etc). Has a bit larger hydraulic pump than 1025R, but not significantly more. Search UA-cam to see how to measure pressure and dial up the hydraulics to max OEM spec to add 10-20% more lift force though to get best balance of performance and longevity. Ballast is essential as noted since the center of gravity is higher, so that’s the main downside. Price is certainly dramatically less than the larger 2 series “R” machines by $7,500 or more! After 2 years ownership, still a huge fan of my 2025R! But if you can afford to go bigger (and pay for bigger/pricier $ trailer to pull it, more expensive attachments, more maintenance $, etc), then go bigger of course!
Great stuff Hugh, thanks for sharing!
I feel like the 2025r gets a lot of hate. I am a fellow 2025r owner and I feel like it’s a great tractor. I feel like it takes all the advantages he talks about with the 1025r and adds more to it. According to JD’S website there is a 2600 dollar difference in price between the two. I don’t think that’s bad. Considering you get a 25% increase in 3 point lift capacity.
@@DakotaDave17 Exactly agree 100%
I really love my 2025R. The 1025 was too small for me, I felt cramped on it compared to the 2025R. I also like that I have more ballast weight because of the larger tires in the back. I am 6 foot two and about 290 pounds and could not fit in the cab of the 1025R.
I agree i also have the 2020 2025r and find it hands down a better tractor to the low sitting 1025r this video was an opinionated bash on a good tractor which i doubt he has spent much time on
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything, everyone loves what they have but I think that's the point, the 2025 is just taller, the 1025 will actually lift more with the loader at the pins and they have the same exact breakout point. 2025 has more ground clearance and weighs more by about 400-500lbs . If the 1025 isn't big enough tractor it's worth going to a 3 series, the 1025 to 2025 isn't much of a jump other than bigger tires. I have a Kubota L-series with a cab and sometimes go grab my father's 1025 cause it's lower to the ground and less tippy. I can see going to a 2025 just to get the cab but again not knowing the prices , could again be worth going to the 3025.
Have a 2022 2025R, very pleased with it, mow hunting areas like trails and open grass areas with it? Bought Frontier RC 2048 to cut grass and tall weeds/brush and it works well. For more open areas use a tow behind DR Pro Max52T (52" wide cut) field and brush mower with 22hp engine. My 2025R has no issue pulling it with front end loader and bucket attached for ballast. Really glad I went with the 2025R.
To bad that the 3025 doesn't have an R model.
This video reminded me of the decisions I faced when buying my first tractor. After buying a small ranch, I purchased a 3025E. My dealer assured me it would handle 4’ round bales. It moved them, but it struggled. I ended up trading it in on a 3033R, which seemed to work better, but of course I now had to deal with the dreaded regen process. A year later, my hay supplier changed. I had to move with 5’ round bales instead of 4’. The 3033R initially handled these larger bales, but I started to have hydraulic issues. I eventually traded the 3033R in on a 4052R. The 4 series is a much heavier tractor and it’s loader is beefier, so handling large bales is now a non-issue. Based on your advice, I recently bought a Worksaver ETG-26 grapple, something the two smaller machines wouldn’t have been able to handle. My John Deere dealer worked with me on both of my upgrades and gave me what I paid for on my trade-in’s.
Looked at all 3 and purchased a 3025E, wanted a tractor that I wouldn’t over work taking care of my 6 acre property… perfect so far! Happy I made the choice of going with the bigger tractor over the bells and whistles. Great video! Thanks!!👊🏻
I have 7 1/2 acres though and having a 60-inch mower deck is also key because it needs to be able to do more than one or two things. I I want it to be able to mow move a little bit of dirt, and have a rear mount snowblower. Because I want to be able to have the loader and the snow blower on at the same time.
the rust on the weld at 6:57, crappy weld with no penetration? crack from stress?
I bought and use my 3025e when I started my grading business and I have used it to spread 300 tons of stone material for driveways and parking lots. It has more than payed for itself. Also use it to brush hog properties that I manage cuts through 6 foot tall brush(not like a hot knife through butter but good enough) I am genuinely impressed with these compact tractors. They are work horses for sure.
Thank you for the video. I'm trying to figure out between the 3025e and 1025r. This video is very helpful.
Another great video - thank-you! Looking forward to, as always, the next one!
I took delivery of my 2021 2025R Gen2 14 months ago. At the time, there was a $3K cost difference between the 1025R & 2025R. I live on a few acres in the northwest that are mostly forest. The 1025R would have met all of my needs very well, but there were three features of the 2025R Gen2 that justified the additional $3K in cost - that into low, middle, and high prIority categories.
Low priority - this is about aesthetics and not much else. I prefer the larger tires (espec. the rear) on the 2025R versus the smaller tires on the 1025R. The larger tires are more ??"tractory"?? than smaller tires. No, ain't gonna to defend this - it's about aesthetics and not logic. (I'd assign 10% of the $3K)
Middle priority - Operator station - I preferred the 2025R over the 1025R. The adjectives short, petite, tiny, skinny do not apply to this tractor owner. For myself, the operators station on the 2025R has more room and is more comfortable. The seat fits my non-petite frame better and is more comfortable than the 1025R seat. Also, there are a couple seat-side controls (PTO selector, for one) brought higher above the floor on the 2025R than on the 1025R - offering slightly easier access over the 1025R, (I'd assign 30% of the $3K)
High Priority - Ground clearance. My property grows trees, himalayan blackberries (much hated) and rocks - ground clearance is a concern. The 1025R ground clearance MIGHT BE sufficient to clear SOME obstacles I may encounter. On the other hand - The 2025R ground clearance IS sufficient to clear MOST obstacles I may encounter. "Might be" vs "is" sufficient and "some" vs "most" obstacles. This was my primary deciding factor in 2025R vs 1025R. (I'd assign 60% of the $3K)
These are my reasons for spending the additional $3K and after having my 2025R for a year & know what I know now - I'd make the same decision.
2021 2025R, Grapple AV20F, Forks HLA Light Wt (GWT), Box Blade BB2048, Wood Chipper WC46, Dethatcher (GWT), Rotary mower RC2048, MM Mower 60D, Summit Hydraulics Rear Remote Kit (2 spools), Hydraulic top link. Filled tires, ballast box, mirrors (GWT), suitcase weights 42# (GWT), replacement led bulbs (GWT), etc.
Thank-you, GWT!!
Very well written post!
Agreed, I really enjoyed reading that. Thanks for taking the time to share!
Well written. Those were my 3 top pro's of the 2025R as well. I bought mine brand new TLB with radial tire upgrade for 23.9k in 2021. My dealer wanted 36k for a 2032R TLB. And 21.5k for the 1025R
Very nice .
Amen brother.
I totally agree.👍
My 2025R arrives in 2 days. GWT you scared me with your review. I watched another UA-cam 1025R v 2025R review and felt better. As was said, clearance, weight, length, width, tire size, are positives. Regarding a feeling of tippiness, while sitting higher probably means a higher center of gravity, the additional weight, width and length would to an unknown extent counter the height. Get a really big fish scale and hook up to the ROPS and see what you find! lol I l LOVE GWT!
I have a 3025D, and I believe it is the best 25 hp tractor out there. It is gear drive only, has a cast iron rear end, and weighs 300 lbs more than the 3025E, the Kubota L2501, and the Mahindra 1626.
Hi Courtney. Very cute puppy! May I suggest something for her training? Dogs don't learn as quickly or as well when the handler repeats the command over and over. She just gets confused and then ignores you. Give the command once, and gently put her in the position. Then, praise her a bunch! After a few seconds, release her, or she will quickly learn to release herself.
Best of luck with that sweetie!
I have a 2021 3025E and I love it. I live in N Fl. My property is very wooded so I have lots of limbs and trees on the ground.
Unfortunately I have had to dig a few graves for some of my critters. It did a great job. I have a Westendorf Brush Crusher grapple and that works great. My tires are loaded with water because it rarely freezes, if it does it's only at night.
I thought about all of those models and the 3025E was for me. For mowing I use a JD 110
Corey,
Love your channel I've been subscribed for a year or more now as long as I've been tractor shopping. I respect your option but you know what they say about options. Even though you don't like the 2025R I'm not going to cancel you as some people would you provide people great information in making an informed decision on there purchases. I ended up purchasing a 2025R and I love mine. It's a personal decision in the end.
The take away to viewers is evaluate your needs as stated by Corey and Tim with TTWT, any of the brand dealers will gladly up sale you on your purchase on a larger tractor and larger implements in the end. The 2032R is 5K more than the 2025R along with the increased cost of implements.
I have a 2019 2025R, love it, 5 ft brush hog and box blade, no problem. I use 4 ft eguipment mostly as to not to over tax her, she is a small tractor so I keep that in mind. As far as loader height I thought about a 4 way bucket to help with that. I love her but I respect that she's a small tractor.
I have a 2020 33R and it is very tipsy. The 1025R is probably the most stable. One of the first thing’s most do when buying a compact tractor is spacers and filling the tires and wheel weights. It’s not just the 2025R
Have you done a lift comparison between the 1025 and 2025R? Front and rear.
Hello, we bought a 3025d new with a loader. Now with 175 hours the tractor is amazing. It has tons of power and is great in the woods pulling logs. We had the tires loaded and I have installed a diverter kit. Using a small "work saver" grapple, this tractor will lift a huge log. We have a wood mill and 28 acres of woods, this machine feels like it can do it all. The 3025d clears tons of snow and grooms our trails, It has never felt tippy or gotten stuck. We also have a welding shop and use this tractor for all our heavy lifting.
Great machine!
Im stepping up from a case international 235 with a Frey loader.
Really been looking at a 3025. Have a commercial deere zero turn for mowing, which i prefer over a belly mower. The 3025 seems like a good balance for size and usage for front loader, backhoe, forks etc.
Just my 2 cents, the 2025r is a better purchase if your going to be in the woods. The height is ideal compared to the 1025 but I do agree the loader could have been beefed up. the 2025r is just a taller 1025 and to me a more practical tractor in the woods
For me, taller and the same width means easier to roll. I just get a bad feeling on mine.
I love my 2025r!
@@GoodWorksTractors lol. You push bora wheel spacers in every video, and really should be used on most any small tractor you have them on your 1025R. I know first hand 1025R is not all that stable either without wheel spacers. LOL
I would suggest putting wheel spacer on the 2025R, load the rear tires with ballast and then see what you think.
My 2025R is very stable with 2" boras and weighted rear tires. I do admit with the Backhoe on I it is not near as stable as with a heavy hitch or nothing on the 3pt. The backhoe putts wight up high which is not the best ballast for off camber work.
@@jdfleetguy28 On the opposite side of that coin, the backhoe can be the, hands down, best ballast you can have for off camber work. Leverage is your friend. The backhoe is heavy. You can swing it to one side or the other to offset a grade. You could get really crazy and extend it out all the way, this increases the leverage and puts the weight down low. This will of course be space limited in some situations though and is obviously not a 'normal operating condition', but it works well in a pinch.
@@carlstrohm3785 I never thought of extending the boom and swinging it around to the uphill side. I had just pretty much given in to the idea of needing to take it off and put on one of my heavy hitches, if I was going to be doing loader work especially if it was off camber loader work. Very interesting, I will have to remember to try that backhoe counterweight trick at some point.
We normally only have a few projects a year where the backhoe is needed, majority of the time my 2025R is configured with a quick out back.
Thanks for the tip.
I don't know in the US, but in Canada, machines 25 HP and under are covered under a home owner's insurance policy as long as it's only used for personal on the property only. I trailer mine between the house and summer spot, so I still got insurance for my 1025R.
Very interesting! I haven't heard that in the USA, but could be some merit to it!
@@GoodWorksTractors Yes, they are covered under your HO Policy and in fact your dealer should have told you to contact your insurance carrier when you buy your machine to have it added, as mine did. The Policy only covers you for work you do, at YOUR property, not anyone else's. That is a whole different policy. ( I was a licensed P&C Adjuster here in VT,NH, CT and ME. And Yes, E stands for Economy line, and R is the premium class. Deere has an M and I believe 1 other class in the bigger machines, 4 and up.
@@rjmack3790 my dealer, well more like JD Finance required a proof of insurance for the loan. So automatically, I had to contact my insurance company.
@@grattonland Interesting. I was asked, but don't recall having to produce proof before. I did call my carrier as soon as I got home. Which was before I actually took delivery of my machine.
I have a 3025D and I love it. Bought it recently but it has been great. It’s heavier than the 3025e and more robust(parts wise). It takes a little getting used to but once you figure it out it is fine. Use it for a lot of loader work right now but will doing some fairly serious ground engagement work soon
I went with the 2025R due to the tires/wheels. My farm in Hawai'i is often muddy and the native grass gets deep quick, the larger tires are a lifesaver on the back fields of the yard for sure. The price difference wasn't horrible (2800 bucks).
My 2025R was 1k cheaper than 1025r it was a deal so i went with 22 model year. Sexy stance for sure
@@catz-media The 2025R here was almost 2k more than the 1025R.
Man, I’m hurt! You must have had a large glass of Hatorade before making this! 😂 I absolutely LOVE my gen 2 2025r. I bought it as a TLB package last July. For my purposes, I wanted the width of the 1025, but I needed more ground clearance. I have had no instances where I have felt unstable in it either. I have however felt that over and over on my buddy’s NH Workmaster 35. I ended up going with a 3049 Frontier tiller because the JD 655 could not be had at the time and I really felt like the 3062 would have been a stretch. My box blade, rear blade, and landscape rake are all 60” and they all feel just right when using. If I have the scarifiers fully sunk, and a full box of gravel or dirt, I can stop the 2025, but that’s not how I operate the box blade, so it’s a non issue. This past weekend, I ran my buddy’s 60” brush hog. I had been a little concerned that it would have been too much, but I really wasn’t able to bog it down in waist high grass. I put it in some 3/4-1” brush and the tractor never flinched. My other concern was the weight of the brush hog because it’s bounces my buddy’s tractor around when lifting and lowering. I was pleasantly surprised at how stable it was, and I had just enough ground clearance at the rear wheel to get on my car hauler trailer. All of that said, a 3025 would handle my lot of implements and then some, but it would have been too large for some of the situations I work in.
4 sure he is wrong about 2025r. He blobbing on this video making 2025r look dumb
I'm 58 yo & I've been operating Tractors & heavy construction equipment since I was 12 years old. I still haven't bought my tractor as yet but when I do....... I will be going with the 2025R. I've spent 10 hrs on both the 1025R and the 2025R working them on my property. I've also looooonnnnnnggg researched both models and I disagree. It's all these things that make the 2025R feel MORE stable because it's slightly longer, slightly wider, slightly taller, has alot bigger tires, has a slightly larger operators station, a heavier, beefier frame AND the hydraulic pump puts out a higher gpm then the 1025R does, meaning it can lift about 200 lbs more & lift it about 6" higher. Which means alot storing attachments on shelving in my shop.
Also when it comes to stability, one has to be constantly thinking about what your doing & what your trying to achieve. My dad taught me to operate by the 'bubble in the seat of my ass', meaning if you feel like your approaching instability, then stop & go no further. Machines are ALWAYS smarter then their operators are, ya just need to quit listening to outside distractions & listen to what all the machine is telling you!!!
Glad you found the tractor for you. Always welcome to disagree. You won't find me ever purchasing one to use. I've used them enough while having them in stock and it reaffirms my hatred every time I use it, haha! Enjoy!
Looks like there is a major difference between the E and the R series. So glad you explained it so well Courtney.
I am amazed at the lift capacity of my 3025e with the Brush Crusher grapple. The deign keeps the load close to the tractor and therefore maximizing the lift capacity.
Traded in my 1025R two years ago for a 3038E. Best decision I could've made! We never realized that we needed more size and power versus all the bells and whistles. After about 350 hours, the only real downside that I can see about the 3E series is the seat. I do sorely (🤣) miss the seat of the 1025R. Complain all you want about the regen system, but it doesn't make that much difference and really doesn't occur all that often.
I had to decide between a 1025R and a 2025R and for me it was the 2025R hands down. You get a heavier tractor, larger tires, more ground clearance, better operator position, for me it was worth it. My only regret is not getting the 2038R lol. You know what they say, the only thing you'll regret about getting a tractor is you didn't get a larger one :)
I don't mow with my tractor mind you, so I don't care about that at all. Maybe if you mow the 1025R is a better choice, but for the price of the 1025R mower deck you can buy a zero turn which is going to do a WAY better job a LOT faster (which is what I did :) ) I also do a lot of ground work, including plowing, middle busting, tilling, loader work, etc. so the height, tires and ground clearance make more of a difference to me than perhaps others...
If I were to do it over again though, I'll admit, I'd consider the 3025E. I've found hitch capacity and loader weight capacity to be issues for me. A 3046R would be perfect but I just can't justify that cost.
My wife's 48" Bad Boy runs circles around my 2025r with 60" RFM and cuts better too. But I will say if you can't afford a ZT, get the drive-over deck and don't waste money on an RFM. Buy once, cry once.
You could not have written this better, the exact reasons I chose my new 2025r. I own a Christmas tree farm so the ground clearance for new plantings was essential as was the width to flail mow my rows. If the 2025r had the lift capacity and rear pto power of 2038 that would be my dream tractor.
My first tractor is a 1025R and its amazing. Even tho i could use a bigger tractor, i'll keep the 1025R and buy a 4 or 5 series. There's no point of trading in this machine, its so much practical and plenty of power for the size.
I have roughly 6 acres with animal pastures, manure piles, road maintenance, cutting in new roads and swales and I'm always glad I went with a Kubota L2501 instead on a LX or JD 1 series. The added capacity, weight and stability was critical to me. I think the 1025 would be the perfect landscape/smaller acreage tractor to get into the tighter spots
I just got my 3025e yesterday! Sweet ride. The pto switch seems to have a rear, middle and hold position. If I’m
Not running pto what position should be it be in. Great video thx Courtney
Keep her in the off position if you're not running anything.
Thank you I am.
Great video. I've had a JD 2305 and I now have a 2025R and they both are tippy. I know guys that have a 1025 and say the same thing. Other brands and the same size??? Tippy! Use some sort of weight in the back and wheel spacers...makes a HUGE difference.
6:58 There looks to be a lot of rust around a weld it may indeed be cracked. Possibly the Seat mount of the backhoe.
ive got the H130 on my 2016 2025r. loaded tires etc. it doesnt have all the newer bells and whistles but its a beast. when i used my neighbors 1025r for a bit, it felt significantly less beefy and capable. putting the 25hp to the ground is important, the ride height of 2025 is a plus in woods too..
Yeah, that Gen 1 2025r is built very well, a true 2 Series.
Mine is a used 2013. Didn't realize the new ones require removing the 3-pt to install the backhoe. I want so badly to hate the thing for being too heavy for an affordable trailer but every time I turn around I find another use for it. lol
@@GoodWorksTractors😊
Curious if JD uses different displacement 25 HP engines like Kubota does? The B2501 uses a 1 Liter
25 HP engine and the B2650 (now LX series) uses a 1.3 Liter 25HP engine.
Obviously a larger displacement will generate more torque and peak HP is usually achieved a little lower in rpm.
Initially I wanted to get the 1025R, but Ag and Turf didn’t carry it at my location, and the 2025R was there with the step up in hp. Ultimately the R’s selling point to me would be the center PTO and option to get the precision belly mower, that is until I realized for the price of that convenience I could get the top series 0 turn and have money left over to do the same thing. Because of this large gap in price, I bought the 3025E with a 4’ tiller and 5’ frontier cutter (having the bigger frame allowed for the bigger cutter as well). For the money and practicality the 3025E just made sense. I’m excited to use it!
Great comparison video. I went shopping for a 1025 when we bought property, told the dealer I had no need for the midmount mower, he said the 3025 would be a better and more cost effective choice to my needs. Been loving my 3025 since.
Awesome, glad to hear it Jim!
I bought the 3032E after using my friends 2025R and 2038R. I went with 3032E up from the 3025 because I live in steep terrain and the extra HP helps out with the hydrostatic trans. I brush hog a lot on hills and the few extra HP makes a big difference.
In regards to the 1025R & 2025R models, does the subframe for the backhoe need to be removed to attach the mid-mount belly mower?
What's the weight difference between the 2025 and 3025 with a bucket?
Couple of points about the 2025R. First, even though the loaders are the same the 2025R does lift slightly more due to increased hyd pressure. Secondly, everyone seems to complain how the 1025R is not able to lift the mower deck high enough at full height. The 2025R solves this problem. I also agree, the bigger tires and longer wheelbase make all the difference in nearly every operating aspect. Who wants a tractor with lawn mower tires? All this for 2600-3K more IMO doesn't put this machine in the terrible class. I also found it's not any more tippy (stock) than a 1025R and I've owned both. "Feeling" tippy and the physics of the actual machine are two different things, and I'm sure JD has done more engineering than you or I sitting on the seat. The 1025R is designed for a lawn, the 2025R can be sent out in the woods and rough terrain. If I had the choice between the two, I'd choose the 2025R because it's a 1025R... just better. All for slightly more overall. It's not a 10k price jump.
Also, the "E" series have terrible bucket break out force. Look up the specs, the 120R loader has more. I used a 3038E and felt the loader was terrible because of this and really hindered the machine. I actually felt I could do more with the 2025R or 1025R. Personally, I'd skip any E series. Thanks for the video.
Good to meet you June. Hang onto that tail.
I am happy with my 2025R. I mow with my X738.
Haha, glad to hear it!
Went with the 1025R for a few reasons:
- I don't need larger, I have a bit more than 3 acres to manage divided into 2 places. 1.25 acres at home, and 2ish acres at our summer place. While I do a lot of landscaping at both places right now, long term will be primarily mowing and snow removal. A larger tractor would help with the landscaping only if I could have a larger bucket for the loader.
- I removed all the stumps last year with my friend's 3 series Kubota, so when I bought a tractor this year, I didn't need the extra ground clearance to work through stumps.
- Money, it's always about money. The smaller one was cheaper
Very good stuff Marc, thanks for sharing!
1. the 1025R & the 2025R have IDENTICAL engines , yes Identical. The 3025D and 3025E are bigger engines ( over 100 cu in) and have a LOT more TORQUE than the 1 or 2 series. The 3D and E have a LOT more ground clearance. for snow and dirt work). I have run them all and owned all but the D.
Yeah, 3e, d are definitely geared more towards your "utility" tasks, get away with the larger ground engaging attachments too.
I have had 1025R, 2025R, and 2038R, 3033R, 3039R, 3046R. Personally of the 2 25Hp machines and the one I still have today, is the 2025R.
To me the 2025R is the ultimate SCUT, which is the same as the GEN 2 as seen in today video which is what I have as well, it is classed the in the same Sub Compact tractor by Deere same as the 1025R.
To me the 2025R is the ultimate 1025R or SCUT.
Say what???? Newsflash, the 2025r is a CUT, not a SCUT. So says Deere! www.deere.com/en/tractors/compact-tractors/2-series-compact-tractors/2025r/
2025r over the 2038r? Yikes...give me the Kubota LX3310 though, haha! Ooooo :)
@@GoodWorksTractors The old Gen 1 2025R was a CUT the Gen 2 is a SCUT. This comes up all the time on GTT. Gen 2 is a SCUT same class as the 1025R. It shares almost all its components with the 1025R, except the stretched 1025R frame, to accommodate the larger tires and still fit a MMM.
Any idea if the wheel spacers will work with the 60" drive over mower?
@@bigbasslakeKaten I have 2" Boras and 54" deck, but that said my 54" deck is shaped different from the 60". The 60" raps back out to the side of right rear tire a bit which puts the anti-scalp wheel in close proximity to the right rear tire.
We had a long discussion last week on GTT with pics of other 2025R owners that had 60" MMM and they were clearing 2" no problem, there was a guy running a 3" but that one was really close, and to close for comfort IMO, the deck does flex and float around bit as the terrain changes under it.
For your own piece of mind, I would measure the distance from the outer sidewall over to that anti-scalp wheel, and I recommend leaving yourself at least 1-2" buffer.
Your spacer you chose will move that side wall the exact distance of the spacer you purchase. 2" will be exactly 2" closer. The buffer zone as I call it is to allow your deck some room to flex and float a bit and still contact that rear tire.
Hey big man , I'm looking at buying a 2025R soon , and at my SunSouth dealer here in Montgomery Al. they talk very highly of you and your knowledge and products , I've learned a lot watching your videos , and will soon be buying some of your products , keep the videos coming .
I was really happy to see this video. I like my 1025r but I've really considered trading for a 3038e. I'm having trouble with the loader mounted joystick. I just don't k ow if I can do it. I need more ground clearance. I use my 1025r more like a skidder than a SCUT.
Do you think the difference in peak torque rpm and engine size makes a difference between the 1025 and the 3025? 3200 rpm on the 1025 as opposed to the 2400 rpm on the 3025 series. Serious 'grunt' work is more for the 3025. They all have their place.
My 2007 X728 (gas) is 27HP and does a hell of a job mowing and simple maintenance around the house, but I'm outgrowing it and am about to purchase more property (~15 acres) and could benefit from a 3pt hitch and rear PTO. I'm leaning towards a 2038R, but, man, are they pricey!
I want to find a good used 2032 do I have to get an 18 and up to add a backhoe 👍 👍 thanks (I really need a tractor that grades and mows so I think a 25 horse would be to small for grading)
I have a 7 acre property. On a 4.5 acre yard i want to plant corn for animal feed. i need a small tractor for tilling this 4.5 acres of yard, moving firewood, mowing 2 acres, dig up trenches and ditches with a backhoe and transporting all kinds of materials with the loader. which series of john deere tractor should i buy : series 1, 2, 3, or 4 ?
Does anyone have a good answere as to why the John Deer 1025r foward pedal and reverse are oposite of the gas pedal of a car?
2025R is the route I went. I am 6'3" tall and 250 Lbs and I simply do not fit well in the seat of a 1025R. My long legs would hit the loader control and that alone was the reason I went with the 2025R. I opted for the backhoe and the 60" quick connect mower as well. I would like a larger/stronger machine but with the ability to quickly remove and install the backhoe, loader and mower it cannot be beat for me.
I heard from one of the dealers in my area that you can get an after market AC for the 1025r but have yet to see one just wondering if anyone has seen one with AC yet
How do you add aux hydraulics for a root grapple ?
My second gen 2025r with spacers feels very secure. Loaded tires and correct ballast takes a lot of the pucker factor away.
Haha, yeah spacers are the key factor for sure. Widen the foot print, lower the center of gravity.
always love your videos friend, going in a week or two and pick up my 2022 1025R
I purchased a 2025R with Cab the end of this winter. (it gets really cold in South Dakota.) I wanted it specifically to put the 54" Heavy Duty front 3-point snow blower. (What a beast let me tell you.) I have about 200 x 200-foot (maybe a bit bigger) section of very rough land and would like to smooth out to mow. What would you suggest? I have no rear attachments at this point.
Interesting…with my 2025r I haven’t been in a situation where I’ve felt l was unbalanced stability-wise, but in terms of side to side ride quality it helped when I put 2.5” BORA spacers on.
I was going to get a 1025r but as soon as I sat on a 2025r it just felt more right for me. Maybe it’s because I’m 6’2” or I just preferred the extra seat height, but the operator station just felt roomier to me. I consider it sort of a different model of the 1025r…kind of like a crew cab pickup vs a supercab.
Absolutely, I have owned both and the 2025R is better than the 1025R in almost every way. Smoother ride, as you noticed as well better ergonomics. The 2025R is very stable with my 2" Bora's and weighted rear tires. I liked the higher seating position for improved visibility. The 2025R is the ultimate SCUT IMO.
Wheel spacers make a big difference....there is a theme here amongst many comments....spacers! Solving a problem that is more prevalent on the 2025r than possibly any other modern tractor model.
Spacers...and not a SCUT! Haha! Hope you know I'm having fun with you!...but it's true!
@@GoodWorksTractors Not sure the 2025R is the worst, maybe so with that backhoe , but without the backhoe its not near as bad as a Cab 3R .
I would say Cab model 3Rs are the most unstable off the lot of any small tractor.
3" spacers weighted tires tends solve the issues on the Cab 3Rs.
I have Boras on all my small tractors 2R,3R, and 4Rs
@@GoodWorksTractors I do. I am having fun too.
However, it is a SCUT not a CUT. I do agree Deere made a bit of mess of things naming it a 2025R when the Gen 1 was a totally different machine even a different class machine.
Deere does call the Gen 2 2025R a SCUT right in the 2 series brochure.
It is really nothing but an enhanced 1025R. Stretched 1 series frame, to accommodate the bigger tires the rest is about the same other than the ergonomic seem to work out better on the 2025R smoother ride more comfortable seating position etc.
See page 3 of the 2 series John Deere Brochure. Deere calls the 2025R a SCUT.
www.deere.com/assets/publications/index.html?id=849f923c#3
Can you get a 3pt. Attachment for a x720 2012?…..front loader?
Will you sell the JD 1025? The first in the row. I’ll come pick it up. Enjoying the channel. Tks for sharing.
I get what you're saying about the 2025R but having bigger tires is a huge difference in loose gravel, dirt , and snow as well as being a little less bumpy on rough terrain due to the larger diameter wheels. I do gravel driveways professionally and own a 1025R. I just sold the 5' land plane because it doesn't have the ponies to pull it loaded down (which is the same as the 2025R I know), and was always slipping the tires in loose gravel because of the much smaller diameter. I may or may not get the 4' model. If I were to do the 25 hp thing all over again, I think I'd do the 3 series. But then again, it is still only 25hp and would probably go for the the 3032E or 3038E with the same frame size and weight.
I love my 2025R, but I felt like I needed the heft of it for dealing with moving my dock and boat lift up and down the ramp, and the smaller tractor was just a little bit overmatched by it. The bigger wheels also are not nothing, but you make some solid points. They just don't apply to how I use it.
Does the big tool fit on an I Match
Good comparison Courtney. Your new dog is a definitely a show stopper though.
She's something special!
Does the 3025E have enough hp to work a flail mower and actually give you work thats worth the money for the flail
I use a 60” rear sweeper and a 60” rear snowblower and a 60” front snow pusher on my 1025r with no issues. With adding weights on the front.
Very nice! Yeah, 60" belly mower too. If you are a master of your craft, you can get away with larger attachments. The vast majority of owners are not and do not need to push the limits.
@@GoodWorksTractors oh very much agree. It’s about how you run it not really what you run…
Even though I totally disagree with your 2025R assessment, it still was a fun video, and congrats on the new pup.
Very cute pup !!!!!!.
Haha that’s part of voicing and opinion! Winners and losers. I don’t like participation trophies.🤣. Thanks as always!
You’ve got me rethinking getting the 3025 and getting the 1025 instead. 👍🏼 I like saving money.
Good video, Thanks, still like mt 2025R, no coplaints.
I purchased a John Deere 3025D and it’s been the perfect tractor for me. I really like the shuttle shift and its simplicity. It seems to be a tractor that can last a long time with few problems.
Right on!
Good to hear some that's bought the 3025D model. I've been interested in that particular model due to it being direct drive tractor and also seems like the perfect size for my needs. I've been wanting to know how well the bucket operation is and if it has a multi function bucket ie Lift while dumping or curling buck?. May sound like a silly question but I drove a jd compact tractor a few years back that had single function operation bucking and felt that it wasn't very productive
I have a 1025 R a2022 I have a bush hog and I leave it at the camp and my neighbor has a kioty and want to use my bush hog will it fit and ps I love the 1025r just the right size for a small home sted
I have a 2018 1025R. When I added a rear quick hitch I found I didn't need to cut the drive shaft for my Woods reverse rotation tiller. The quick hitch gave me 4 1/2 inch's more distance from the pto shaft= no cutting. The woods reverse rotation rototiller is a beast, and does better then the standard rotation tillers in every way. Well worth the extra bucks for it. As for the 54 inch quick attach belly mount mower, what a piece of crap. I should have just got a rear attach finish mower like I used to have. Hindsight...
Just purchased a 3025E, which I’m not seeing much on UA-cam until now. Awhile back you posted about the 2025 and step/handle accessories and such, is there some for the 3025E?
So what is the cost difference with the Regin (DEF) and ones without? Thank you
I've been pleased with my 2017 3032e.
I recently seen a small JD tractor pulling a full size kicker baler.
Removing the loader from 3E's is a non-starter for me. I had a 2011 3038E and taking that loader off is a major project. I used it for round bales, but I sensed that I was pushing the machine to its max, so I traded it in for a Bobcat CT4050.
And the Bobcat loader comes off how?
@@Formulabruce It has a quick disconnect like Deere, Kubota, Kioti have. Drop the support legs, pull the pins on the loader mounts and disconnect the hoses.
I have a 2016 1025R and the only real shortcoming I find with it is the height. Don't get me wrong, I bought it for it's low height because I needed to mow under trees. But the height real becomes noticeable when you have an attachment hooked to the back, and your backing off the trailer. I've since learned to just make sure the ramps are more straight by unloading on a hill or a small ditch. But I've done my share of scraping the lower end of the backhoe getting it off the trailer. I can see where the 2025R would address this issue, but at the cost of stability and otherwise the clearance you would have had with smaller tires. All in all, I would never get rid of my 1025R, it has been a fantastic tractor, and I just find more and more uses for it all the time, and it's been super reliable once John Deere acknowledged the air filter bracket problem on the eariler models. I never broke the valve cover, because right away I noticed that it was loose and put blue loctite on the nuts, but I was constantly breaking that rubber strap that holds the filter box. The updated box is a much better design.
Would have been useful to include a x7. For a lot of folks it’s all they need. I used one for several years with a front quick hitch, plow & pallet forks, then on the 3 point I ran a tiller, dethatcher and grader blade.
I didn't have one here. I'm not actually a John Deere dealer, I just like tractors :) I've done at least one comparison between the x700 Series and 1 Series though. Here's a link. ua-cam.com/video/HuCAAigEPq0/v-deo.html
@@GoodWorksTractors I figured you didn’t have one, especially one with a quick hitch and 3 point. I ended up moving to a 1025 this year because I needed a front loader, but I did a lot of work with the x7 over a couple of years.
I have a 3043 D, I know its not a 25, but people, don't overlook the D series. It has shuttle shift and its an absolute beast. Not losing any power to a hydrostatic transmission is huge. Its one possible turn off is not having a live PTO, but after running a mower on it last week, it's no problem. It is the smoothest starting PTO I've ever seen on a utility tractor.
I'm glad to hear it Jim, great info!
Yes I shall agree, the extra height of the 2025 makes it a more uncomfortable ride, and sometimes ya get that tippy fee;ing too... I don't mind being the black sheep having the 2025 series, however when it comes to grapple work, I'll out perform the 1025 lol... Thumbs up to you and your company always.
How about wheel spacers or filling the tires to address the tippiness?
I agree with you that the John Deere 1025 tractor is a very nice machine but its not the be-all end-all of sub compact tractors. I’ll put my Massey Ferguson GC1725 up against one any day of the week and twice on Sunday. There’s more out there than just green and orange.
This sounds like a challenge Pete. I declare you bring your Massey to Kalamazoo and we have a tractor duel! 🤣
@@GoodWorksTractors it’s a date! 😂😂
Let us know how you feel about it after you change your alternator belt.
It’s ok jd folks unlike other tractor makes we love everyone and salute your courage to buy other brands
One thing on the 1025R and 2025R that is incorrect in this video is that both of those tractors have a limited Cat 1 hitch as they cannot lift to the full height of the Cat 1 specification. It's not going to matter if you're trying to decide between them but if the 3025E is also on the shopping list then it "wins" that particular category.
Being an owner of a 2025R I have to disagree with your assessment. :) However, I will say that you're one of the first that I know of that has experience with both that likes the 1025R more. I do agree though that the premium does make it a challenge when deciding between the two as you don't really get that much more. As I said in another comment I ended up with mine because the 2025R just fit better. Which I'm okay paying a premium on for something that I'll use for decades.
Can you tell the difference in power between a 1023 and 1025 being only 2 hp.
THANK YOU!!!! Been hemhawling over these 3 units for about a year!!!
I'm 6"4" so the 2025R was more comfortable for me. Also the bigger tyres make for a smoother ride. It was also on sale! :-)
I like my Kubota L4701, my BX2680 not so much. Neighbor has a 1025 R, doesn’t do anything I do any better than the BX. If I did it over I think I’d buy a Ventrac. All that said most of what you do our land doesn’t really allow, I don’t have a lawn to mow, I don’t have snow to deal with, mostly rough country brush hogging, digging, and FEL work.
I have Gen 1 2025R. I wouldn't never even think of "upgrading" it to Gen 2. Mine has stronger FEL, more capable backhoe, separate left/right breaks, to name a few advantages... Doesn't have tilt steering wheel, and 12V socket on the right side. I think I can live without those just fine. Wouldn't change it for a brand new 1025R either, for the same reasons, plus it is a lighter tractor with significantly smaller wheels and ground clearance. The 3 series are too big for my needs, so I'm very happy with my JD 2025R Gen 1 tractor.
One real disadvantage is that HydroPlus guy won't manufacture a higher GPM pump for my tractor (he does have one for Gen 2)...
Love your accessory rundowns, and especially love your dog
My 1025r is awesome it's everything I need and bought a back blade for it
If you have any work to do In the woods the extra ground clearance of the 2025 over the 1025 is worth it by itself it’s like off roading in a stock truck vs a lifted truck making it a lot less likely to get damage underneath. the other advantage is in the length it offsets heavy loads better the larger tires also allows for a lot more lbs of liquid ballast. But all things aside they are all great tractors. And the R models are like Swiss Army knives endless attachments and configurations.
John deere is the only one using there own quick coupler for the bucket all the other brands run skidsteer quick attach. So in really all other brands are more compatible to attachments