While I have produced music in 12 years now, I remember if I got writers block, I would take an accappella of a track, could be pop, dance, whatever and construct a melody around the track using different keys to the orginal song. I found you could get some great ideas going. Was surprised to hear Mauro Picotto also did this last year in an interview. One of his popular tracks is actually a remix of "Freed From Desire" he did when he asked for the vocal from a friend. The track sounds nothing like the original but he said if you layered the vocal over his track, it fits perfectly into the mix.
@@prestigious5s23 Luckily I very rarely suffer writers block. I can listen to all types of music and get ideas from them, put them in my own mix and you'd never know where they came from
@@polznbladz3242 I think writers block boils down to maybe not liking a style to much anymore or that you have a habit of making music for a particular group of people. If your someone who creates music from your gut, not knowing whether anyone will like it, then you can't lose. That is the most important thing for any producer and I for one didn't approach music that way which was a bad move.
@@prestigious5s23 I guess I'm that type of person. I make music I can and want to make. I always wanted to make trance, never anything else. Pigeon holing a particular style like trance ultimately doesn't take you far in terms of a career in producing. I'm living the dream pity it's 25 years to late
Amazing simplicity , i have never seen anyone anywhere that has given such a thorough tutorial about trance music. this was 1 of the best videos of reasons why in trance. ✌🏾
@@demishellen we beginners ... we do it for hobbies .. we need a kick a melody to learn ... we need a simple lesson ... WHAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN IS TOUCH THE SKY WITH A PALM OF YOUR HAND ... THANK YOU
@@demishellen WE DON'T HAVE TO DO PRODUCTIONS FOR DRUMCODE ... just for pure fun and passion ... thanks to you, technology is at your fingertips .. THANK YOU
@@demishellen One method that I always liked is to draw a fully populated baseline, and then draw the melody one octave (or more) above and then remove the conflicting notes from the baseline if applicable, and then move up certain notes from the baseline in between the baseline and the melody similar to what you’re showing in this video. As opposed to doing what you’re showing and then drawing any melody on top of it. Maybe it’s just me but it’s always felt simpler.
You can never go wrong with learning as much theory as you can. What helps with cinematic/classical composition will definitely help you with trance and more progressive stuff. Cool video!
As always mate, top notch video! Good to see how to overcome some writers block. What i'd love to see in a tutorial on how to use something like a sus4/2 and how to borrow chords to not make it sound like a train wreck! Or even maybe ways to change key, easy ways to make it work.
@@demishellen yeah fair call. I did realise there was a sus4 in this progression? So was looking for your thought process in this. May have been this or the previous video.
Music Theory has dramatically changed my composition mindsent, improvisation and many things.. Well I want to compose also advanced cinematic music; therefore, I decided to dive into music theory.
This is exactly what i was missing in terms of how to get that particular trancey 'sound' or tone. Are there any other patterns like this which result in other types of trancey sounding results? 🤔
Nice stuff, Demis! Another easy approach would be to lay down sustained notes (like you would with pads) and play the diesired notes along your 8- or 16-bar-pattern. After that you just put in the rhythmical notes on these sustained notes and you will have your melody. Later on you can finetune that to your taste as well. 🙃
Having a positive attitude towards your learning will greatly help. 👍🏻 no one is a “noob” we all have to start somewhere. I started on “dance ejay 2” now that’s something 😂
i produce pretty good currently if you want you could make a video on the elements used in a trance song. It would be very beneficial for my production like what´s in a trance song Plucks, Piano, Synths... Lead, Atmos, 2nd Melody ? ...... and when does what play , how many times to bring the bassline back etc......
While this is a nice tutorial, it serves as an example of how poor trance has become over the last 14 years. Techno, house, psytrance have always managed to stay true to the roots of the music, whereas trance sounds nothing like it did from the 90's right through to lets say 2010, which even by then many of us started noticing at the likes of trance energy, the music just wasn't as good any more, and more and more trance producers were producing different styles. Uplifting trance is so repetative and saturated with so many similar melodies. When the real hard kick drums became the norm, I found it ruined the music.
Classic is coming back and in a big way. It has been creeping back in for a few years now. Trance split into so many sub genres it was difficult to work out where it was going. 😎
@@demishellen Very slowly but still nothing like the 90s. Take Icon - Desire (Icarus Remix) for example, as that serves as solid proof how producers today and in the 00s (including myself) abandoned the true trance sound. Trance became over engineered and most producers were like sheep. I remember all this cutting shite started after about 2010 and all of a sudden it seemed everyone started doing it. The heavy hard kicks became the norm which seemed to cause basslines to lose creativity as every opted for rolling basslines for most part. All a one trick pony style. You listen to a Darren Porter set and literally every track has same kick, lead sound and bass sound being used. Its really weird.
Some days a melody comes really easy and other days it can take absolute hours of tweaking, trial & error. Great vid mate
And the best melodies are always by far the simplest. 😎
While I have produced music in 12 years now, I remember if I got writers block, I would take an accappella of a track, could be pop, dance, whatever and construct a melody around the track using different keys to the orginal song. I found you could get some great ideas going. Was surprised to hear Mauro Picotto also did this last year in an interview. One of his popular tracks is actually a remix of "Freed From Desire" he did when he asked for the vocal from a friend. The track sounds nothing like the original but he said if you layered the vocal over his track, it fits perfectly into the mix.
@@prestigious5s23 Luckily I very rarely suffer writers block. I can listen to all types of music and get ideas from them, put them in my own mix and you'd never know where they came from
@@polznbladz3242 I think writers block boils down to maybe not liking a style to much anymore or that you have a habit of making music for a particular group of people. If your someone who creates music from your gut, not knowing whether anyone will like it, then you can't lose. That is the most important thing for any producer and I for one didn't approach music that way which was a bad move.
@@prestigious5s23 I guess I'm that type of person. I make music I can and want to make. I always wanted to make trance, never anything else. Pigeon holing a particular style like trance ultimately doesn't take you far in terms of a career in producing. I'm living the dream pity it's 25 years to late
Amazing simplicity , i have never seen anyone anywhere that has given such a thorough tutorial about trance music. this was 1 of the best videos of reasons why in trance. ✌🏾
Appreciate it dude 😎 let’s keep growing the community.
Have a few tutorials myself u may wana check
classic trance anthem right here! 🔥
2:27 really gives me GAIA vibe. Thanks for the tutorial.
Appreciate your support 👍🏻😎
How come this guy only has 17k Subs?? Content is brilliant
Much appreciated and thank you for the support
a prayer for you who can teach the basics !!! what we fans want to hear and understand ... THANKS !!!
I was once in a position of trying to learn so I take that stance to teach in a perspective that is easy to understand. 🙂
@@demishellen we beginners ... we do it for hobbies .. we need a kick a melody to learn ... we need a simple lesson ... WHAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN IS TOUCH THE SKY WITH A PALM OF YOUR HAND ... THANK YOU
@@demishellen WE DON'T HAVE TO DO PRODUCTIONS FOR DRUMCODE ... just for pure fun and passion ... thanks to you, technology is at your fingertips .. THANK YOU
Never stop making videos, Demis! 👍
I’ll try not too 😎 I like it too much 🙂
@@demishellen One method that I always liked is to draw a fully populated baseline, and then draw the melody one octave (or more) above and then remove the conflicting notes from the baseline if applicable, and then move up certain notes from the baseline in between the baseline and the melody similar to what you’re showing in this video. As opposed to doing what you’re showing and then drawing any melody on top of it. Maybe it’s just me but it’s always felt simpler.
Demis always bringing the fire tutorials ❤️🔥
Appreciate it, good to see you around still. 😎🎛
This goes happily into my How To Trance playlist, your ideas and sounds are so good.
Awesome to hear 🙌😎
Great video and I'm definitely going to try this on some new tracks I am stuck on.
Awesome 🙌🙂
love your videos bro thanks
Super amazing video!!!!
You can never go wrong with learning as much theory as you can. What helps with cinematic/classical composition will definitely help you with trance and more progressive stuff. Cool video!
Totally agreed 😎 it’s like driving a car but not knowing what the pedals do and you are always taking a guess what they do 😂
Indeed.
I just came across your videos the first time I love your teaching methods you earn yourself a subscriber
so grateful for your tutorials!
Thank u man, Gave me inspiration 😇
Man this helps a lot! Thank you.
I need to grab your dune soundbank!
Helped a lot! Thanks for that
Thanks Demmis!!! Great video. So helpful.
this is great! thanks 🙂
As always mate, top notch video! Good to see how to overcome some writers block.
What i'd love to see in a tutorial on how to use something like a sus4/2 and how to borrow chords to not make it sound like a train wreck! Or even maybe ways to change key, easy ways to make it work.
I’m no theory channel however I can do more videos covering my workflow and thought process when creating projects. 👍🏼🙂
@@demishellen yeah fair call. I did realise there was a sus4 in this progression? So was looking for your thought process in this.
May have been this or the previous video.
Very helpful and informative. Good and thank you. I'm starting to create good Trance, even though I've found a lot of things on my own. 👌
Persistence is really the key to becoming better, keep up the good work. 😎
@@demishellen Thank you very much. I'm getting better every day.
Very nice tutorial ! Thanks for all the things you teach us.. 😍😍
Appreciate it Andre 🙌👍🏻
great tutorial!
Thanks for sharing 👍
Cheers Klint 😎👍🏻
Music Theory has dramatically changed my composition mindsent, improvisation and many things.. Well I want to compose also advanced cinematic music; therefore, I decided to dive into music theory.
Cinematic does command some good knowledge to understand how to convey moods, emotions. Great work 👍🏻
me agrada el mundo de la produccion es otro entorno...
This is exactly what i was missing in terms of how to get that particular trancey 'sound' or tone. Are there any other patterns like this which result in other types of trancey sounding results? 🤔
Great tip , how i create the pad or strings from that tip to join the melody?
Amazing mate!
Thanks 🙌🏼😎
Nice stuff, Demis! Another easy approach would be to lay down sustained notes (like you would with pads) and play the diesired notes along your 8- or 16-bar-pattern. After that you just put in the rhythmical notes on these sustained notes and you will have your melody. Later on you can finetune that to your taste as well. 🙃
Excellent tip, I’m sure some of the community will find this helpful. I did have an older video on this but maybe a time to return to the idea. 😎🎛
Thanks for the tip. Any video for this ?
Ohhh Yeah!
This is not for noobs. It does help, for me at least, but not as intended ;-) Prolly need to revisit when I'm less noob.
Having a positive attitude towards your learning will greatly help. 👍🏻 no one is a “noob” we all have to start somewhere. I started on “dance ejay 2” now that’s something 😂
@@demishellen I remember that one too... Dance eJay 2... 😁😅
i produce pretty good currently if you want you could make a video on the elements used in a trance song. It would be very beneficial for my production like what´s in a trance song Plucks, Piano, Synths... Lead, Atmos, 2nd Melody ? ......
and when does what play , how many times to bring the bassline back etc......
Sorry I know it might sound stupid but how did u do the colors and when is not on scale has a different color?
Using Scale Assistant. I did this video covering this very topic 🙂
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Thank you very much
I learn a lot from u ur the greatest
1:28 sounds like DJ Tomac “The Fly” 😃
simplicity always wins I suppose. 🙂
@@demishellen yeah i guess. That track was great at the time, hasn’t held up well over time. Awesome video as usual Demis!
💪💪🔥
Trance : Bach Counter point motion
This is approximately the same principle for making all the compositions that Armin Van Buuren plays in his ASOT.
While this is a nice tutorial, it serves as an example of how poor trance has become over the last 14 years. Techno, house, psytrance have always managed to stay true to the roots of the music, whereas trance sounds nothing like it did from the 90's right through to lets say 2010, which even by then many of us started noticing at the likes of trance energy, the music just wasn't as good any more, and more and more trance producers were producing different styles. Uplifting trance is so repetative and saturated with so many similar melodies. When the real hard kick drums became the norm, I found it ruined the music.
Classic is coming back and in a big way. It has been creeping back in for a few years now. Trance split into so many sub genres it was difficult to work out where it was going. 😎
@@demishellen Very slowly but still nothing like the 90s. Take Icon - Desire (Icarus Remix) for example, as that serves as solid proof how producers today and in the 00s (including myself) abandoned the true trance sound. Trance became over engineered and most producers were like sheep. I remember all this cutting shite started after about 2010 and all of a sudden it seemed everyone started doing it. The heavy hard kicks became the norm which seemed to cause basslines to lose creativity as every opted for rolling basslines for most part. All a one trick pony style. You listen to a Darren Porter set and literally every track has same kick, lead sound and bass sound being used. Its really weird.