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@xavierwalko4175 absolutely! As soon as it drops (unless its just around the corner cos if so I'm already stacked with scripts i need to finish and record)
what shocked me all these years later, was seeing missions like the doom, like having to heal 10 ppl in a maze inside the ark, being fixed on expert mode
actually about that I didn't realise until after I wrote and recorded the script but there are a couple of missions that do maintain there weird objectives (atleast in reloaded, I wasn't able to check every stage in both versions) and healing the gun scientists is one of them unfortunately (the other one is the mission with knuckles and the bombs but that one has barriers and the like to railroad you into a much more straight forward path) That being said they did also fix the wall maps for those 2 flash back missions so its actually legiable and possible to see where you are in the base
I think the only missions that aren't just "get to the goal" in expert mode for the original game are those two (though the scientists are all located in the room with the goal ring for The Doom) and Mad Matrix (I believe you need to do the hero mission in expert mode). All the others I'm pretty sure are just the "get to the goal" ones, though in practice some are different (e.g., Cosmic Fall is basically the computer room mission since they moved the goal ring there, and Lava Shelter has you take the path for its dark mission and I think has all the lava-raising things from that mission already activated)
My wife was working at a GameStop when this game came out. She used to get all the preorder bonus items for me, so I've had a Shadow the Hedgehog beanie in my closet since 2008, unworn and practically new. I never would have imagined it would be worth anything, but I should probably put it up for auction at this point as vintage clothing. How could I have predicted this? Keanu works in mysterious ways... I'm glad you addressed the pacing of this game. It's terrible. It should be speed or combat, not really both at the same time randomly. Maybe just combat arenas with speed courses in between? Nice to see you again Kraft! Enjoy your holiday season. Any chance at an end of year review? I'm curious what you actually played this year.
Oh yo thats cool! People are finally waking up to the fact that shadow the hedgehog is in fact peak I think there probably is a way to pull off combat and speed at the same time but you'd have to never stack too much on the players plate at any one time due to them splitting their attention. Azure striker gunvolt 2 kinda shows this with its 2 characters. Gunvolt is really good and fun being fast and deadly but only if you learn the perfect timing of half killing an enemy and using his electric field to finish them off as you jump over them. Problem is you need to know the level inside and out to get to that point. Copen on the otherhand boosts through levels at high speeds and boosting into an enemy make you flip out and lock on to them so you can spam your gun mindlessly while you hovor there and use that brief moment of automation to look ahead of the level and see which direction you should boost next And yeah I'll definitely do a community post like last year talking about what games i played and shows ive watch etc that I wasny able to cover in videos and such
@Kraftium Believe it or not, there's a fighting game called Blade Strangers that has Gunvolt in it. It's probably the strangest crossover fighter of all time, having characters like Shovel Knight in it as well. Give it a look sometime!
oh I know about blade strangers, its pretty neat and much less ugly after his post release patch that (sort of) fixed the sprites. I like how its all tilt based specials like assist mode in granblue, its a fun game to just play with friends shame its published by a lame company tho :(
I'm basically the exact player you're talking about wanting the original expert mode and key placement for red rings but all the other mod enhancements, that extra stuff is just a little out of my league lmao, and it's a shame I won't be able to feel like i've "completed" this game. But otherwise this mod was great and Shadow is now one of my fav Sonic games. Fantastic breakdown.
Yeah its mostly how i felt too Stuff like mandatory spin dash jumps in expert mode are luckily not super common but having like 3 of them in a row for the second stage is a bit much
15:28 Tbh, that is the biggest "other games did it, so this one also has to" change. Not all rewards were great, but these doors were always that, rewards for completion. There is nothing wrong with the game having its own unique sauce(Infact, all of the games did until Colors), so why change it?
I do actually agree with you there, removing the keys is something I could take or leave tbh, I think its a fun and satisfying system but its definately not without faults. As you said the rewards vary in how useful they actually are the one I showed off is really useful if you get a chaos control ready to use like I accidently did but sometimes its just an alternate vehicle or something like in westopolis. It can either be kinda pointless or an absolute godsend for getting an A rank (or S for reloaded). It runs into the same problems that the lost souls do in the DmC reboot where the idea was finding this collectables would boost your ranking for a level but the act of finding them wastes so much time that your time has to suffer so your ranking on your first couple of runs is gonna be bad regardles of what you do, once you do find them all you have then created a scenrio where all future runs will be atleast a B rank even if you do terribly cos you've found all the collectables. End of the day its not a big deal but the idea while good on paper does cause problems for other areas of the game's design
My brother is 9 years older than me so as a kid I was exposed to alot of stuff that my age bracket wouldn't be I named my favourite teddy bear "overdrive" when I was 4 or 5 after the special attacks in Final Fantasy 10 (I was a lost cause from the start lol) also thanks I'm glad you liked it :D
That's crazy that you uploaded this around the same time I happened to think of this game and stumbled upon the mod by accident. I know it isn't the vanilla experience or anything, but I enjoyed it as much as I did as a kid and felt pretty vindicated against all the early UA-cam critics who shat on this game endlessly back in the day.
Shadow be in the public zeitgeist right now thanks to generations and the movie For me he's always on the brain So glad we're moving past the "sonic was never good" era
Love this series. A mod that I think totally fits this series but sadly isn’t currently updated is the Halo Reach Evolved mod. It’s a total top to bottom rebalance of Halo Reach that turns the game from arguably one of the sloppier feeling Halo campaigns to something challenging, exciting, and also fair. If an update ever happens for it, I’d recommend checking it out for a video.
I'm pretty sure I played a really early build of this in the past? It might of been a differnet one with a simular name tho, if I did it seems like they've added alot since, all I remember is the DMR becoming a battlerifle which was neat but I like the DMR so I didn't love that aspect I am planning on covering SPV3 at some point soonish cos thats an overhaul/enhancement thats real exciting, and I haven't played any of the newer versions yet, I know its been done by alot of other folks but I don't think my sphere of viewers overlaps with the common halo youtube audience so hopefully it'll be new for most of them
Shadow 05 isn't built off Sonic Heroes' engine they just have similar graphics. You missed some other cool stuff in Reloaded 1.2: -slide can be used to cancel homing attack/jump dash/spindash and be held for as long as you want; -you can press A/B to speedup/slowdown in those digital trails in Mad Matrix/Digital Circuit; -chaos blast deals more dmg (not a big deal for the most part, but it's very useful for Egg Dealer and kinda for Diablon too); -bosses also have expert variants if you select them with X (I don't really recomend for casual play, some are very tedious, just try it to see what I mean lol); -there's a new rank, S; -when you fill hero/dark gauge in Devil Doom boss, every chaos spear shot is max power; -to play The Last Way in select mode, you need to go to Final Haunt (DON'T select it), press Down then A/X, for Devil Doom you do the same except you press Down then Right (there is no expert version for this boss); -there are some more specific things, but the most important is obviously the ending credits of expert mode. Also, damn. Based intro! Shadow is a lot cooler than some certain fake hedgehog.
It very much has the same controls with added features to make the game feel better to play. Just like how Shadow Generations is built off of Sonic Frontiers.
Do they not both use renderware? Like shadow definately isn't just a copy and paste job but I feel like they're very clearly reusing alot of code (not a bad thing I love falcom who do that all the time) and yeah I glossed over a few things or tried to show it in clips (like getting an S rank on a boss) for the sake of breavity, figured they'd be a few things not on the github page that I wouldn't notice too also haha thanks I'm glad people are enjoying it cos I really think I cooked, always annoying to see that blue hedgehog again, of all places ;)
-100/10 mod doesn't fix the biggest problem with *SHADOW* The Hedgehog! Sonic Heroes on PC low and ps2 had circle shadows but Shadow the Hedgehog on all 3 consoles has circle circles. *Shadow* the hedgedhog not being able to cast a proper shadow is a crime!
I'm so glad to find someone else who actually likes this game and character talk about it. Every time I find a video about it, they feel a need to defend themselves with sarcasm or "but I know it's bad!" No, just admit you like the game without needing to get super defensive! Please, I just wanna watch videos by people who like the game!
I get your pain "Cringe but free" was such a great meme We're not in middle school anymore just like what you like people Part of sonics appeal is that its incredibly sincere despite how hokey it can get at times and that fact can be enjoyed both ironically and unironically
You still have to complete the chaotix story in heroes to unlock the final story, but thankfully the worst aspects of that team are contained to the extra missions
Lmao i literally just got done doing a whole playthrough of this yesterday, found myself genuinely enjoying it big time! Makes me think that if the og had a little more time the gameplay could have been pretty good! Love the video!
Ey glad you enjoyed it (both the mod and the video) Tho I think while a few extra months would of helped, being built off of heroes's engine would of made this an uphill battle eitherway Thanks for watching
they just hit different! I've never met a single person who prefers X over Zero (except that one guy but lets not count him) I will say I'm more of a dante guy but vergil is just as cool
7:24 according to a video explaining all of this games endings, there's technically like 326 endings, even though most of them are almost exactly the same as many others. They literally named all 326 story paths, it's deranged.
back in 2010 I play this game on ps2 after playing Sonic Unleashed(ps2 version), one thing I remembered being frustrated by is having to grind enemy to change your alligment/doing mission and not finding said enemy
The Lost & Found Shadow tracks are significantly better than most of the licensed tracks that ended up in Shadow '05 and Sins of a Divine Mother in general is hugely underrated
The amount of Sonic games that get mods and community-made treatments like this makes me happy just to watch. From 3D Blast's Director's Cut version made by the original dev to this *and* stuff like Project 06 or the No-Kinect Free Riders patch, it's just an amazing set of well done work for games that would mostly be tossed aside by the majority in name of the new releases. Very great stuff overall!
Sonic fan project scene is very cool and sexy Everyone of them do really great work Looking foward to covering project 06 when the final release drops I also just got a list of games like fallen star that i really need to get to play on my own time
while i can get behind most of the changes this mod makes removing 2 of the 5 paths as a requirement to see the true ending is straight up heresy , the reason " I have to beat the game 10 times?! " is a common complaint is because it means you basically have to play the game twice after you've already seen all 30 levels the game has to offer. Just making it so that you had to beat the game once ( play through all 5 paths ) instead of completing all boss fights would be a much more reasonable approach.
I think this may be a problem with the fact that when modding, changing flags and values is much easer than creating new ones into the game the last story unlocks after completing all endings and the code that does so is probably just set to do so once "10 endings are unlocked" so the mod is able to change that number but not set which endings should be needed technically if you wanted to in reloaded you could do both varients of the neutral path and then another neutral run where you veer off into semi evil or good in the second last mission to get your 3rd ending. You'd play the same 5 levels 3 times and the one of the final levels twice and one of them once. It would be a bit crap but its on the player to pick up the slack where the mod reasonably can't for logistic reasons I do agree that setting the ending count to 3 instead of 5 seems like a bit of an over correction but its not like they lock you out
After this game was announced, me being a foolish kid, I was literally picturing Mercenaries, where GUN, Robotnick, and the Black Arms all against one another... I was picturing grinding across telephone poles, running up skyscrapers, only to pause and pull out the sniper rifle strapped to my back, eliminating a target, then jumping down spin dashing and sawed-off shotgunning enemies left and right.... so my expectations were a tad high. But, I honestly wish they would try this again... I don't know how to articulate this meanfulling, but I still love the Mercenaries idea, as far as how the world works, but make the gameplay like a more aggressive Vanquish (just as fast and aggressive, but no cover system- how Space Marine is in comparison to Gears of War).
Honestly, as someone with no knowledge of game development or where you would even begin with making a game, I have had the idea of remaking shadow the hedgehog 2005 from the ground up with changes to gameplay, probably less endings or at minimum less required endings, and at least newer looking visuals tho probably not super modern visuals or anything But I just wanna see the game be the best it can be ya know? And nobody else is making it so, maybe I could Probably not tho, idk what I’d be doing
I’m definitely in that in between spot and it kind of ended up, for all the amazing improvements this mod brings-leaving a sour taste in my mouth at the end sadly I definitely understand the goal with the new expert mode, but the thing that confuses me is the foresight to include them as an option to play in the stage selection, but not the other way around, especially considering how much easier it is to actually unlock expert mode, less skilled players are actually MORE encouraged to play it now, so it kinda sucks they didn’t at least give you the OPTION Still a great mod tho, it just misses that opportunity really hard imo
An idea for another video in the series could be the Kingdom Hearts Re:Fined mod! It actually works with multiple games. It might help the most with the first game since it's kind of the clunkiest. Oh also Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days Melon Mix might make a good video! I think Kingdom Hearts 3 has some overhaul mods too!
I also dislike the idea of changing the original Challenge Mode and key placements, not just because I personally want something truer to the original, but it seems at odds with the goals of the entire rest of the mod. From what it seems to me, everything in ReLoaded exists to streamline or simplify the existing game's systems to make it more accessible and fun - these changes, meanwhile, are something fit for, like, a challenge hack. It feels very out of place, and I hope they include it as a toggleable option or separate hack (and all the replies here seem to echo the sentiments too lol). I'm unfamiliar with how to contact the devs, but I wonder if it's possible to politely show/send them this kind of request. Obviously I don't want to bother or pester them, though, Sonic fans do get very hyper with fanprojects...
Weird, your vid didn't pop in my sub box, I'm just now learning that you uploaded this. I'm not really much of a Sonic fan, I'm neither in the love it or hate it camp and it seems on the internet you MUST be on either one. I'm also not a big enough fan of Sonic to try out the weaker games in the series. All I know about Shadow the Hedgehog the game is that everyone loves to call it edgy when personally I think there is a different between what is "edgy" and what a 10 year old thinks is cool. Shadow the Hedgehog just seems to be the latter and I'd throw in the Jak sequels and all these mascot platformers or a lot of games that get called that. I've watched enough weird anime and live action stuff over the years that calling stuff like Shadow the Hedgehog and those said games under the same term is just often said by people who haven't experienced a whole lot of media that is outside of the mainstream. I'm almost convinced that people who think Shadow comes close to edgy probably never watch anime outside of typical mainstream shonen or live action shows or movies with lots gore, violence and having sex scenes pop up here and there. I'm ranting but "edgy" is a term I loathe with a geniune passion because of stuff like this. However there is stuff like Grand Theft Auto which kind of strattles the line between being edgy and stuff a 10 year old kid thinks is cool since well GTA was on the news and is basically counter culture and lots of kids buy the games to look cool in front of their friends.
I never understood the hate for this game. It is a little annoying but so was SA2 and every other Sonic game. Heck I don’t like shadow as a character but the game is pretty fun. This mod is really fun too.
The issue is a combination of its marketing and overall aesthetic tied with its _abysmal_ structure. It takes itself way too seriously while also doubling back and softening a lot of the edges (nuking the white house/city followed by everyone miraculously having already evacuated being the example that sticks in my mind), along with the gratuitous swearing and some wonky translation. The _incredibly tedious_ missions in many levels, combined with having to do many of them _multiple times_ to unlock the true ending, don't help. Also, the very inclusion of a True Ending that makes all other endings you could get moot kind of spits in the face of the idea that you get to have a say in Shadow's morality or attitude. Also, the story is nonsensical because of how the morality system determines which levels you get.
@ I mean everything was trying to be edgy back then. Just because a game tries a different style doesn’t make it bad. Not to mention the missions weren’t that annoying. Literally takes like 6 minutes each mission besides a few. Only real issues is that you have to get every ending but eh not that big of an issue to me.
@@The_Real_Raidou Here's the problem, every game has its annoyances yes, but how much they effect you determines whether or not you'll have a good time and clearly a lot of people were heavily affected by those annoyances. Also 6 minutes give or take is generous if you know what you're doing and depending on the mission because there's a handful that can take 15-30 minutes with inexperience and you gotta play through this game 10 times, potentially playing the more draining missions multiple times to see the true final boss. And about a lot of things going the edgy route, it's all about expectation and execution, remember that the last Sonic game before shadow was Heroes, the most lighthearted Sonic game at that point and a lot of people's first exposure to him in an early internet age since it was the first big multiplatform Sonic game then all of the sudden you get blindsided by over the top edginess, not to mention that they did it heavily flawed with its mission structure and completely invalidated moral choice feature. Similar games like Ratchet started with the edge and executed it very well and the closest to the shadow situation is Jak 2 but the first game still had a small bit of edge to it and the characters straight up acknowledge that the shift was strange and stressful for them while in Shadow the characters treat it like another Tuesday a lot of the time and randomly don't at others.
9:50 Meanwhile SA1and 2 have you replay the same levels 3 and 5 times each respectively for what amounts to a costume change and one level I'm not saying the SA method is worse or Shadows better, they both suck, just trying to be fair
I think the difference is that those feel like extras whilest a true ending feels mandatory Sonic heroes suffers the same problem but its mission mode is its own seperate thing so it can be put out of sight and out of mind Shadow's missions are intergrated into every aspect of the game and cant ever be avoided
@Kraftium ohhhh I misunderstood, I thought you were talking about Expert mode compared to the green hill and metal sonic unlockables, not final story, my bad
@@nora-yc6fi I mean I'm talking about both really, the comparison between the 2 are not 1 to 1 due to slightly different structures Expert mode unlock is also kinda silly locking such a huge feature behind essentially 100%-ing the game a costume like in SA1 is a neat little bonus for doing everything but not so much of one that it feels like a chore grinding through out everything Green Hill in SA2 is a bit frustrating cos a whole new level is a pretty big deal so getting all the emblems is tedious but its a very short level and is definately meant to feel like a bonus more than more core content shadow's expert mode for alot of people is just how the game should of been, it doesn't feel like a fun bonus for loving the game enough to 100% it
Its just a useful short hand way of refering to the game quickly whilest also distingusihing you mean the game and not the character for me its also useful for a video script cos the more you over use a phrase the more awkward the language sounds so having another way of refering to the game lets me mix it up more often
@@DaftGamesAr yeah I'd only heard it refer to as such some what recently and my first though was "i'll use that" and my second was "bloody hell was sonic 06 really only 1 year later? no wonder it turned out how it did"
I do not understand calling it Shadow 05. Sonic 06 is called Sonic 06 cause it shares a title with the first game, but there's no other Shadow game named "Shadow the Hedgehog"
It makes it easier to say if you are talking about the game or the character, because a lot you can say about the game can be easily say about the character, like for instance you could be like “I really don’t like the gameplay of shadow the hedgehog” and you could be talking about the game, or you could be talking about his gameplay in all his games, there’s no real way to tell without specifying “shadow the hedgehog, the game” so “shadow 05” is way easier This issue doesn’t come up for sonic and Sonic 1 cause, well we tend to call the game Sonic 1
@JuniBowman I call it "Sonic," not "Sonic 1," hence why I also say "Sonic 06." On top of that, if I were to say very general statements about Shadow, like "I don't like Shadow's gameplay," then that follows, but I tend to follow it up by saying "he's so floaty and it's annoying to have to stop to pick up guns, plus I hate having to play Westopolis so much," which instantly narrows down the topic without the need for the excessive "05"
for me its just an alternate way of saying it for a video script writing sounds really awkward and sloppy if you use the same set of words or phrases back to back, using "shadow the hedgehog" for both the game and the character doubles how often you use it, so I used "shadow 05" a few times to lessen that along with "the game" or "the title" you're right that meaning can be infered based on context (language is proscriptive as well as descriptive after all) but have more options, and short hand better distinguish the 2 is not a bad thing, even when a little redundant. Especially when you can infer what I mean in "shadow 05's" case since you have a simular thing in mind with "sonic 06" to give you context even if you've never heard it before. I also in conversation do put a "1" in front of a titles name or say "the OG/the first *blank*" cos while its not nessarilly needed its a single syllabul to remove that infering step the listener needs to go through to work out whether I'm talking about Zelda the character, Zelda the series or Zelda the NES game
You seem to be under the impression that this is a sonic game that expects you to go fast. It is not, it's a Shadow game that expects you to kick ass. Also on the topic Westopolis, how many times have all of us been FORCED to replay Green Hill Zone? Don't lie, I know you mofos didn't beat Sonic 1 in 10 attempts
I honestly don't like the speed in this fanmade version. The levels aren't designed for it and it shows. I tried both one after the other. The original speed is easier to control. The other modifications are fine. Honestly though, the base game is just very good by default. The one huge improvement is the fact that the final stage is unlocked after five playthroughs instead of 10 ; really, I don't understand why this isn't the default.
The game's original physics aren't that great either. You almost never run at full speed for an extended period except for some stages like Lethal Highway
@@AkameGaKillfan777 That's not because of the physics though, that's the level design. In the case of the fanmade edit, the physics are not appropriate for that level design. The base game, that's the opposite : the level design isn't appropriate for the physics. Ultimately, the base game is more controllable.
@@Dante02d12 Maybe that wasn't the best example, but the game's physics still aren't that great. Even sliding down slopes doesn't make you go faster, and if you want out of the slide, you have to do that backwards jump which stops all forward movement until you land again. They give the illusion of momentum from the half-baked spin dash jump, which takes away your forward midair movement almost right after jumping. Compared to the Adventure games, it's more strict and less rewarding to pull off. Also the way Shadow turns both at the start and as he picks up speed causes him to often run into one of the randomly placed pieces of terrain for some reason scattered throughout most stages. Yuji Naka liked that aspect almost as much as making nearly every action still 1 button in 3D.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 Oh, I definitely agree on those. But even if the edit fixed all those issues (which I doubt), none of that matters if the character goes too fast and always ends up in the void xD! Besides, even with those issues, the physics are still useable and enjoyable. Whereas the fan edit, I gave up after a couple of minutes because it was obviously not thought out. Still impressive, what they did.
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Project 06 next once the “End Of The World” update is done?
@xavierwalko4175 absolutely! As soon as it drops (unless its just around the corner cos if so I'm already stacked with scripts i need to finish and record)
Putting DMC2 and Luigis Mansion together feels very wrong to me
No matter the age, deep down I've always secretly known that Kraftium was actually the coolest thing to ever exist. Second to Shadow maybe
I'm fraction of a shadow of the hedgehog I could be
what shocked me all these years later, was seeing missions like the doom, like having to heal 10 ppl in a maze inside the ark, being fixed on expert mode
actually about that I didn't realise until after I wrote and recorded the script but there are a couple of missions that do maintain there weird objectives (atleast in reloaded, I wasn't able to check every stage in both versions) and healing the gun scientists is one of them unfortunately (the other one is the mission with knuckles and the bombs but that one has barriers and the like to railroad you into a much more straight forward path)
That being said they did also fix the wall maps for those 2 flash back missions so its actually legiable and possible to see where you are in the base
I think the only missions that aren't just "get to the goal" in expert mode for the original game are those two (though the scientists are all located in the room with the goal ring for The Doom) and Mad Matrix (I believe you need to do the hero mission in expert mode). All the others I'm pretty sure are just the "get to the goal" ones, though in practice some are different (e.g., Cosmic Fall is basically the computer room mission since they moved the goal ring there, and Lava Shelter has you take the path for its dark mission and I think has all the lava-raising things from that mission already activated)
@@BulldogPCs Central City also has you blow up the Dark mission bombs in Expert, but that's the only other one
How does it fix it? It's more tedious than just reaching the Goal Ring
0:44 I mean it’s like he says in SA2 : “I’m the coolest”
this is true
My wife was working at a GameStop when this game came out. She used to get all the preorder bonus items for me, so I've had a Shadow the Hedgehog beanie in my closet since 2008, unworn and practically new. I never would have imagined it would be worth anything, but I should probably put it up for auction at this point as vintage clothing. How could I have predicted this? Keanu works in mysterious ways...
I'm glad you addressed the pacing of this game. It's terrible. It should be speed or combat, not really both at the same time randomly. Maybe just combat arenas with speed courses in between?
Nice to see you again Kraft! Enjoy your holiday season. Any chance at an end of year review? I'm curious what you actually played this year.
Oh yo thats cool! People are finally waking up to the fact that shadow the hedgehog is in fact peak
I think there probably is a way to pull off combat and speed at the same time but you'd have to never stack too much on the players plate at any one time due to them splitting their attention.
Azure striker gunvolt 2 kinda shows this with its 2 characters. Gunvolt is really good and fun being fast and deadly but only if you learn the perfect timing of half killing an enemy and using his electric field to finish them off as you jump over them. Problem is you need to know the level inside and out to get to that point.
Copen on the otherhand boosts through levels at high speeds and boosting into an enemy make you flip out and lock on to them so you can spam your gun mindlessly while you hovor there and use that brief moment of automation to look ahead of the level and see which direction you should boost next
And yeah I'll definitely do a community post like last year talking about what games i played and shows ive watch etc that I wasny able to cover in videos and such
@Kraftium Believe it or not, there's a fighting game called Blade Strangers that has Gunvolt in it. It's probably the strangest crossover fighter of all time, having characters like Shovel Knight in it as well. Give it a look sometime!
oh I know about blade strangers, its pretty neat and much less ugly after his post release patch that (sort of) fixed the sprites. I like how its all tilt based specials like assist mode in granblue, its a fun game to just play with friends
shame its published by a lame company tho :(
I didn't know a beanie exists for this game.
I...I kinda want it.
I'm basically the exact player you're talking about wanting the original expert mode and key placement for red rings but all the other mod enhancements, that extra stuff is just a little out of my league lmao, and it's a shame I won't be able to feel like i've "completed" this game. But otherwise this mod was great and Shadow is now one of my fav Sonic games. Fantastic breakdown.
Yeah its mostly how i felt too
Stuff like mandatory spin dash jumps in expert mode are luckily not super common but having like 3 of them in a row for the second stage is a bit much
15:28 Tbh, that is the biggest "other games did it, so this one also has to" change. Not all rewards were great, but these doors were always that, rewards for completion. There is nothing wrong with the game having its own unique sauce(Infact, all of the games did until Colors), so why change it?
I do actually agree with you there, removing the keys is something I could take or leave tbh, I think its a fun and satisfying system but its definately not without faults. As you said the rewards vary in how useful they actually are the one I showed off is really useful if you get a chaos control ready to use like I accidently did but sometimes its just an alternate vehicle or something like in westopolis.
It can either be kinda pointless or an absolute godsend for getting an A rank (or S for reloaded). It runs into the same problems that the lost souls do in the DmC reboot where the idea was finding this collectables would boost your ranking for a level but the act of finding them wastes so much time that your time has to suffer so your ranking on your first couple of runs is gonna be bad regardles of what you do, once you do find them all you have then created a scenrio where all future runs will be atleast a B rank even if you do terribly cos you've found all the collectables. End of the day its not a big deal but the idea while good on paper does cause problems for other areas of the game's design
It's weird watching a video from someone exactly my age when I'm so used to hearing people older than me talk about these games.
Great video twinny.
My brother is 9 years older than me so as a kid I was exposed to alot of stuff that my age bracket wouldn't be
I named my favourite teddy bear "overdrive" when I was 4 or 5 after the special attacks in Final Fantasy 10 (I was a lost cause from the start lol)
also thanks I'm glad you liked it :D
That's crazy that you uploaded this around the same time I happened to think of this game and stumbled upon the mod by accident.
I know it isn't the vanilla experience or anything, but I enjoyed it as much as I did as a kid and felt pretty vindicated against all the early UA-cam critics who shat on this game endlessly back in the day.
Shadow be in the public zeitgeist right now thanks to generations and the movie
For me he's always on the brain
So glad we're moving past the "sonic was never good" era
Love this series. A mod that I think totally fits this series but sadly isn’t currently updated is the Halo Reach Evolved mod.
It’s a total top to bottom rebalance of Halo Reach that turns the game from arguably one of the sloppier feeling Halo campaigns to something challenging, exciting, and also fair.
If an update ever happens for it, I’d recommend checking it out for a video.
I'm pretty sure I played a really early build of this in the past? It might of been a differnet one with a simular name tho, if I did it seems like they've added alot since, all I remember is the DMR becoming a battlerifle which was neat but I like the DMR so I didn't love that aspect
I am planning on covering SPV3 at some point soonish cos thats an overhaul/enhancement thats real exciting, and I haven't played any of the newer versions yet, I know its been done by alot of other folks but I don't think my sphere of viewers overlaps with the common halo youtube audience so hopefully it'll be new for most of them
Shadow 05 isn't built off Sonic Heroes' engine they just have similar graphics.
You missed some other cool stuff in Reloaded 1.2:
-slide can be used to cancel homing attack/jump dash/spindash and be held for as long as you want;
-you can press A/B to speedup/slowdown in those digital trails in Mad Matrix/Digital Circuit;
-chaos blast deals more dmg (not a big deal for the most part, but it's very useful for Egg Dealer and kinda for Diablon too);
-bosses also have expert variants if you select them with X (I don't really recomend for casual play, some are very tedious, just try it to see what I mean lol);
-there's a new rank, S;
-when you fill hero/dark gauge in Devil Doom boss, every chaos spear shot is max power;
-to play The Last Way in select mode, you need to go to Final Haunt (DON'T select it), press Down then A/X, for Devil Doom you do the same except you press Down then Right (there is no expert version for this boss);
-there are some more specific things, but the most important is obviously the ending credits of expert mode.
Also, damn. Based intro! Shadow is a lot cooler than some certain fake hedgehog.
It very much has the same controls with added features to make the game feel better to play. Just like how Shadow Generations is built off of Sonic Frontiers.
Do they not both use renderware? Like shadow definately isn't just a copy and paste job but I feel like they're very clearly reusing alot of code (not a bad thing I love falcom who do that all the time)
and yeah I glossed over a few things or tried to show it in clips (like getting an S rank on a boss) for the sake of breavity, figured they'd be a few things not on the github page that I wouldn't notice too
also haha thanks I'm glad people are enjoying it cos I really think I cooked, always annoying to see that blue hedgehog again, of all places ;)
@@Kraftium I have no idea honestly. I just know this because one of the modders that made Reloaded (dreamsyntax) mentioned it.
Yeah you sure did! 🦔
Very well made video! I enjoyed it a lot, its paced really well! Made me want to play Reloaded again :)
Oh really? Thank you so much
Pacing is usally one of my weak points cos I love to yap so I'm glad you enjoyed it
Thank you
-100/10 mod doesn't fix the biggest problem with *SHADOW* The Hedgehog!
Sonic Heroes on PC low and ps2 had circle shadows but Shadow the Hedgehog on all 3 consoles has circle circles.
*Shadow* the hedgedhog not being able to cast a proper shadow is a crime!
HE IS THE SHADOW!!!!!
For real tho that is kinda weird
What is a "circle circle"?
The audacity to not give Shadow his shadow.
What's a Circle Circle?
I'm so glad to find someone else who actually likes this game and character talk about it. Every time I find a video about it, they feel a need to defend themselves with sarcasm or "but I know it's bad!" No, just admit you like the game without needing to get super defensive! Please, I just wanna watch videos by people who like the game!
I get your pain
"Cringe but free" was such a great meme
We're not in middle school anymore just like what you like people
Part of sonics appeal is that its incredibly sincere despite how hokey it can get at times and that fact can be enjoyed both ironically and unironically
You still have to complete the chaotix story in heroes to unlock the final story, but thankfully the worst aspects of that team are contained to the extra missions
Yeah heroes is guilty of locking the ending behind the mission mode too but atleast its segmented offas its own side mode
Lmao i literally just got done doing a whole playthrough of this yesterday, found myself genuinely enjoying it big time! Makes me think that if the og had a little more time the gameplay could have been pretty good! Love the video!
Ey glad you enjoyed it (both the mod and the video)
Tho I think while a few extra months would of helped, being built off of heroes's engine would of made this an uphill battle eitherway
Thanks for watching
I'm 33 and I can assure you yes Shadow the Hedgehog is in fact the coolest. Right up there with Vergil from DMC and Zero from Mega Man.
they just hit different!
I've never met a single person who prefers X over Zero (except that one guy but lets not count him)
I will say I'm more of a dante guy but vergil is just as cool
7:24 according to a video explaining all of this games endings, there's technically like 326 endings, even though most of them are almost exactly the same as many others. They literally named all 326 story paths, it's deranged.
Words can't describe how based you are for liking Shadow 05 (Win)
Thank you
Validation after all these years means alot :,)
back in 2010 I play this game on ps2 after playing Sonic Unleashed(ps2 version), one thing I remembered being frustrated by is having to grind enemy to change your alligment/doing mission and not finding said enemy
luckily thats one of the things the reloaded mod addresses
I think you forgot to mention that reloaded also adds s ranks to every stage. They are extremely hard and require basically perfection to do.
less forgot and more left it out for brevity's sake
did show footage of me getting an S rank on a boss tho
Im one of the weird ones who actually beat Shadow 05 as a kid. I never felt like i was forcing myself either and enjoyed the game a lot!
The Lost & Found Shadow tracks are significantly better than most of the licensed tracks that ended up in Shadow '05 and Sins of a Divine Mother in general is hugely underrated
The amount of Sonic games that get mods and community-made treatments like this makes me happy just to watch. From 3D Blast's Director's Cut version made by the original dev to this *and* stuff like Project 06 or the No-Kinect Free Riders patch, it's just an amazing set of well done work for games that would mostly be tossed aside by the majority in name of the new releases. Very great stuff overall!
Sonic fan project scene is very cool and sexy
Everyone of them do really great work
Looking foward to covering project 06 when the final release drops
I also just got a list of games like fallen star that i really need to get to play on my own time
@Kraftium Hope you have a good time with Fallen Star!
while i can get behind most of the changes this mod makes removing 2 of the 5 paths as a requirement to see the true ending is straight up heresy , the reason " I have to beat the game 10 times?! " is a common complaint is because it means you basically have to play the game twice after you've already seen all 30 levels the game has to offer.
Just making it so that you had to beat the game once ( play through all 5 paths ) instead of completing all boss fights would be a much more reasonable approach.
I think this may be a problem with the fact that when modding, changing flags and values is much easer than creating new ones into the game
the last story unlocks after completing all endings and the code that does so is probably just set to do so once "10 endings are unlocked" so the mod is able to change that number but not set which endings should be needed
technically if you wanted to in reloaded you could do both varients of the neutral path and then another neutral run where you veer off into semi evil or good in the second last mission to get your 3rd ending.
You'd play the same 5 levels 3 times and the one of the final levels twice and one of them once. It would be a bit crap but its on the player to pick up the slack where the mod reasonably can't for logistic reasons
I do agree that setting the ending count to 3 instead of 5 seems like a bit of an over correction but its not like they lock you out
Also Expert Mode should require you to beat every stage at least once.
Westopolis would have been WAY better if you only had to eliminate some of each faction rather than all of a faction.
After this game was announced, me being a foolish kid, I was literally picturing Mercenaries, where GUN, Robotnick, and the Black Arms all against one another... I was picturing grinding across telephone poles, running up skyscrapers, only to pause and pull out the sniper rifle strapped to my back, eliminating a target, then jumping down spin dashing and sawed-off shotgunning enemies left and right.... so my expectations were a tad high.
But, I honestly wish they would try this again... I don't know how to articulate this meanfulling, but I still love the Mercenaries idea, as far as how the world works, but make the gameplay like a more aggressive Vanquish (just as fast and aggressive, but no cover system- how Space Marine is in comparison to Gears of War).
Can we truly fix Shadow the Hedgehog (2005)
Not until we fixed Rise of Lyric first.
you need a time machine for that one pal
I knew at 19 or 20 years old this game was not going to be good. But it was going to be interesting.
Honestly, as someone with no knowledge of game development or where you would even begin with making a game, I have had the idea of remaking shadow the hedgehog 2005 from the ground up with changes to gameplay, probably less endings or at minimum less required endings, and at least newer looking visuals tho probably not super modern visuals or anything
But I just wanna see the game be the best it can be ya know? And nobody else is making it so, maybe I could
Probably not tho, idk what I’d be doing
I’m definitely in that in between spot and it kind of ended up, for all the amazing improvements this mod brings-leaving a sour taste in my mouth at the end sadly
I definitely understand the goal with the new expert mode, but the thing that confuses me is the foresight to include them as an option to play in the stage selection, but not the other way around, especially considering how much easier it is to actually unlock expert mode, less skilled players are actually MORE encouraged to play it now, so it kinda sucks they didn’t at least give you the OPTION
Still a great mod tho, it just misses that opportunity really hard imo
8? Imagine with 15 in the middle of the teen years, and yes, Rouge gave and gives latina vibes, and that explains a lot 😂.
Thanks to shadow ive been in my chuuni stage since ive been cognizant
sonic team dev 1: so we have the coolest character ever exist how do we make him cooler
Sonic team dev 2: GIVE HIM A GUN
sonic team dev 1: YES
An idea for another video in the series could be the Kingdom Hearts Re:Fined mod! It actually works with multiple games. It might help the most with the first game since it's kind of the clunkiest. Oh also Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days Melon Mix might make a good video! I think Kingdom Hearts 3 has some overhaul mods too!
I also dislike the idea of changing the original Challenge Mode and key placements, not just because I personally want something truer to the original, but it seems at odds with the goals of the entire rest of the mod. From what it seems to me, everything in ReLoaded exists to streamline or simplify the existing game's systems to make it more accessible and fun - these changes, meanwhile, are something fit for, like, a challenge hack. It feels very out of place, and I hope they include it as a toggleable option or separate hack (and all the replies here seem to echo the sentiments too lol).
I'm unfamiliar with how to contact the devs, but I wonder if it's possible to politely show/send them this kind of request. Obviously I don't want to bother or pester them, though, Sonic fans do get very hyper with fanprojects...
Also the Red Rings are in completely different games
Shadow! Long time, no see!
Of course we can
There’s a mod that reduces mission requirements which is just as much as a game changer
Just a shame it’s hard to download
Hang in there, bud. It'll get to that 100%.
git hub is not the easiest to navigate its true
atleast its pretty easy to install
@@acronym.4328 That would be great. I really want to try out the co-op stuff that wasn’t mentioned in this video too
@@Kraftium Yeah Dreamysyntax posted the tutorial but some steps are missing. I may try to reach him directly…
Weird, your vid didn't pop in my sub box, I'm just now learning that you uploaded this. I'm not really much of a Sonic fan, I'm neither in the love it or hate it camp and it seems on the internet you MUST be on either one. I'm also not a big enough fan of Sonic to try out the weaker games in the series.
All I know about Shadow the Hedgehog the game is that everyone loves to call it edgy when personally I think there is a different between what is "edgy" and what a 10 year old thinks is cool. Shadow the Hedgehog just seems to be the latter and I'd throw in the Jak sequels and all these mascot platformers or a lot of games that get called that. I've watched enough weird anime and live action stuff over the years that calling stuff like Shadow the Hedgehog and those said games under the same term is just often said by people who haven't experienced a whole lot of media that is outside of the mainstream. I'm almost convinced that people who think Shadow comes close to edgy probably never watch anime outside of typical mainstream shonen or live action shows or movies with lots gore, violence and having sex scenes pop up here and there. I'm ranting but "edgy" is a term I loathe with a geniune passion because of stuff like this.
However there is stuff like Grand Theft Auto which kind of strattles the line between being edgy and stuff a 10 year old kid thinks is cool since well GTA was on the news and is basically counter culture and lots of kids buy the games to look cool in front of their friends.
Honestly, the physics are the only thing I have an issue with
I never understood the hate for this game. It is a little annoying but so was SA2 and every other Sonic game. Heck I don’t like shadow as a character but the game is pretty fun. This mod is really fun too.
The issue is a combination of its marketing and overall aesthetic tied with its _abysmal_ structure. It takes itself way too seriously while also doubling back and softening a lot of the edges (nuking the white house/city followed by everyone miraculously having already evacuated being the example that sticks in my mind), along with the gratuitous swearing and some wonky translation. The _incredibly tedious_ missions in many levels, combined with having to do many of them _multiple times_ to unlock the true ending, don't help. Also, the very inclusion of a True Ending that makes all other endings you could get moot kind of spits in the face of the idea that you get to have a say in Shadow's morality or attitude. Also, the story is nonsensical because of how the morality system determines which levels you get.
@ I mean everything was trying to be edgy back then. Just because a game tries a different style doesn’t make it bad. Not to mention the missions weren’t that annoying. Literally takes like 6 minutes each mission besides a few. Only real issues is that you have to get every ending but eh not that big of an issue to me.
@@The_Real_Raidou Here's the problem, every game has its annoyances yes, but how much they effect you determines whether or not you'll have a good time and clearly a lot of people were heavily affected by those annoyances.
Also 6 minutes give or take is generous if you know what you're doing and depending on the mission because there's a handful that can take 15-30 minutes with inexperience and you gotta play through this game 10 times, potentially playing the more draining missions multiple times to see the true final boss.
And about a lot of things going the edgy route, it's all about expectation and execution, remember that the last Sonic game before shadow was Heroes, the most lighthearted Sonic game at that point and a lot of people's first exposure to him in an early internet age since it was the first big multiplatform Sonic game then all of the sudden you get blindsided by over the top edginess, not to mention that they did it heavily flawed with its mission structure and completely invalidated moral choice feature. Similar games like Ratchet started with the edge and executed it very well and the closest to the shadow situation is Jak 2 but the first game still had a small bit of edge to it and the characters straight up acknowledge that the shift was strange and stressful for them while in Shadow the characters treat it like another Tuesday a lot of the time and randomly don't at others.
@@Err0_Will Couldn't have put it better myself, thank you.
@ I’m gonna be honest I’m not gonna read all that. I personally think it’s a good game if you do that’s fine.
I just don't like shadow's pump action mp5 with an m16 barrel shroud
bro he's just built different, don't worry about it
9:50
Meanwhile SA1and 2 have you replay the same levels 3 and 5 times each respectively for what amounts to a costume change and one level
I'm not saying the SA method is worse or Shadows better, they both suck, just trying to be fair
I think the difference is that those feel like extras whilest a true ending feels mandatory
Sonic heroes suffers the same problem but its mission mode is its own seperate thing so it can be put out of sight and out of mind
Shadow's missions are intergrated into every aspect of the game and cant ever be avoided
@Kraftium ohhhh
I misunderstood, I thought you were talking about Expert mode compared to the green hill and metal sonic unlockables, not final story, my bad
@@nora-yc6fi I mean I'm talking about both really, the comparison between the 2 are not 1 to 1 due to slightly different structures
Expert mode unlock is also kinda silly locking such a huge feature behind essentially 100%-ing the game
a costume like in SA1 is a neat little bonus for doing everything but not so much of one that it feels like a chore grinding through out everything
Green Hill in SA2 is a bit frustrating cos a whole new level is a pretty big deal so getting all the emblems is tedious but its a very short level and is definately meant to feel like a bonus more than more core content
shadow's expert mode for alot of people is just how the game should of been, it doesn't feel like a fun bonus for loving the game enough to 100% it
@@Kraftium Also Heroes just has you play them 4 times.
You'd only be fair if doing all those missions was required to unlock the Last Story
why is everyone starting to call shadow the hedgehog, shadow 2005?
Its just a useful short hand way of refering to the game quickly whilest also distingusihing you mean the game and not the character
for me its also useful for a video script cos the more you over use a phrase the more awkward the language sounds so having another way of refering to the game lets me mix it up more often
@Kraftium yeah fair enough. i think it seemed odd to me because people only started doing that recently
@@DaftGamesAr yeah I'd only heard it refer to as such some what recently and my first though was "i'll use that" and my second was "bloody hell was sonic 06 really only 1 year later? no wonder it turned out how it did"
@Kraftium yeah. i wish there was some behind the scenes docu for these games
I do not understand calling it Shadow 05. Sonic 06 is called Sonic 06 cause it shares a title with the first game, but there's no other Shadow game named "Shadow the Hedgehog"
It makes it easier to say if you are talking about the game or the character, because a lot you can say about the game can be easily say about the character, like for instance you could be like “I really don’t like the gameplay of shadow the hedgehog” and you could be talking about the game, or you could be talking about his gameplay in all his games, there’s no real way to tell without specifying “shadow the hedgehog, the game” so “shadow 05” is way easier
This issue doesn’t come up for sonic and Sonic 1 cause, well we tend to call the game Sonic 1
@JuniBowman I call it "Sonic," not "Sonic 1," hence why I also say "Sonic 06." On top of that, if I were to say very general statements about Shadow, like "I don't like Shadow's gameplay," then that follows, but I tend to follow it up by saying "he's so floaty and it's annoying to have to stop to pick up guns, plus I hate having to play Westopolis so much," which instantly narrows down the topic without the need for the excessive "05"
for me its just an alternate way of saying it for a video script
writing sounds really awkward and sloppy if you use the same set of words or phrases back to back, using "shadow the hedgehog" for both the game and the character doubles how often you use it, so I used "shadow 05" a few times to lessen that along with "the game" or "the title"
you're right that meaning can be infered based on context (language is proscriptive as well as descriptive after all) but have more options, and short hand better distinguish the 2 is not a bad thing, even when a little redundant. Especially when you can infer what I mean in "shadow 05's" case since you have a simular thing in mind with "sonic 06" to give you context even if you've never heard it before.
I also in conversation do put a "1" in front of a titles name or say "the OG/the first *blank*" cos while its not nessarilly needed its a single syllabul to remove that infering step the listener needs to go through to work out whether I'm talking about Zelda the character, Zelda the series or Zelda the NES game
You seem to be under the impression that this is a sonic game that expects you to go fast. It is not, it's a Shadow game that expects you to kick ass. Also on the topic Westopolis, how many times have all of us been FORCED to replay Green Hill Zone? Don't lie, I know you mofos didn't beat Sonic 1 in 10 attempts
If we swich shadow go metal sonic i think the game would make sense but ya know then it is't a shadow game
Sorry, I think Sonic is cooler lmao.
I honestly don't like the speed in this fanmade version. The levels aren't designed for it and it shows. I tried both one after the other. The original speed is easier to control.
The other modifications are fine. Honestly though, the base game is just very good by default. The one huge improvement is the fact that the final stage is unlocked after five playthroughs instead of 10 ; really, I don't understand why this isn't the default.
The game's original physics aren't that great either. You almost never run at full speed for an extended period except for some stages like Lethal Highway
@@AkameGaKillfan777 That's not because of the physics though, that's the level design.
In the case of the fanmade edit, the physics are not appropriate for that level design.
The base game, that's the opposite : the level design isn't appropriate for the physics.
Ultimately, the base game is more controllable.
@@Dante02d12 Maybe that wasn't the best example, but the game's physics still aren't that great. Even sliding down slopes doesn't make you go faster, and if you want out of the slide, you have to do that backwards jump which stops all forward movement until you land again. They give the illusion of momentum from the half-baked spin dash jump, which takes away your forward midair movement almost right after jumping. Compared to the Adventure games, it's more strict and less rewarding to pull off.
Also the way Shadow turns both at the start and as he picks up speed causes him to often run into one of the randomly placed pieces of terrain for some reason scattered throughout most stages. Yuji Naka liked that aspect almost as much as making nearly every action still 1 button in 3D.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 Oh, I definitely agree on those. But even if the edit fixed all those issues (which I doubt), none of that matters if the character goes too fast and always ends up in the void xD!
Besides, even with those issues, the physics are still useable and enjoyable. Whereas the fan edit, I gave up after a couple of minutes because it was obviously not thought out. Still impressive, what they did.
Well why is the video a thing? There's nothing to fix aince it's perfect.
You can't fix what isn't broken
Don't need to. Don't like the game? Too bad.
Good thing i do like the game
Unfortunately "can we refine shadow the hedgehog" is not a title that people will click on
You said that you played SA2... WHY DONT YOU THINK THATS EGGWALKER IS COOLIEST THING EVER EXIST???
the egg walker is pretty cool especially when fully upgraded ... but its no where close to shadow
@@Kraftium Yooooosh(
@@Kraftium man i'm actually happy someone even knows what an egg walker is
The dealer clears sadly