@@dontfeedthebots7133 Who is being over dramatic? It’s just truth. Bruce is a cheater and deserves no praise or medals he took from women. He is not a real athlete. He is a petty, arrogant cheater who is unworthy of his achievements.
He keeps saying it's not Lia Thomases fault he followed the rules. Not true, he just lost in court trying to get the rules changed in his favor. He just wants to cheat. He didn't show to the open division when offered.
It's true tho, the fact that Thomas was allowed to join women's sport wasn't his fault because he followed the rules to be eligible. But just like Caitlyn [also] said, if Thomas had a sensible mind and considerate of others [women], he should have never even attempted to shift categories [from men's to women's sport] because he knew very well that he had that certain advantage. Caitlyn said it herself, for Thomas' case, it's all about the person's character and integrity.
Bruce Jenner is a man, and needs to REALLY know Jesus. He claims to be a Christian.... I don't know how he can reconcile his life style with the scriptures... you can't.....
Bruce Jenner is a man, and needs to REALLY know Jesus. He claims to be a Christian.... I don't know how he can reconcile his life style with the scriptures... you can't.....
@@SkankHuntForty2 this isn't equality feminisms wants you idiot. Men and women are biologically different. Men are better in sports . We feminist just want the same oppertunities in life. Letting a men compete it's doing that. I'm not a super woke feminist.
@@SkankHuntForty2 Men competing in female sports is NOT feminist. Feminists had to fight to carve out a spot for themselves in sports 100 years ago, which was undermined and attacked by the men at the time. It is now being attacked and undermined in a similar way. A narcissist stopping at nothing for to stroke their own ego and belittling and undermining women in the process? That has been the feminist fight from the very beginning.
Bruce Jenner is a man, and needs to REALLY know Jesus. He claims to be a Christian.... I don't know how he can reconcile his life style with the scriptures... you can't.....
Caitlyn Jenner is a transgender person that has common sense and understands how crazy these woke rules are and how much they are hurting womans sports
He’s only trans because he killed a woman in a car crash that he caused. Look it up. Funny how he became a woman just after he murdered that woman. And used the trans card to get off on it.
Kudos to Caitlin. She is the perfect example that people can choose to be who ever they want to be (which I fully support), without compromising their commonsense and consideration toward the world around them.
If you fools are talking about integrity what the problem in letting a nutcase who identifies as female play in female sports, now who’s being transphobic, that trans is a female isn’t he as per your beliefs
Easy way to fix the problem is For the athletes to stand up and say they’re not gonna compete and just walk off the field. Enough athletes stand up for what’s right then you have no competition they’ll fix the problem at that point till then they will not.
@@ConservativeEastEuropean not exactly true, most amateur athletes train at varsity facilities, well as you know varsity which is university or college, is a breeding ground for woke and cancel culture, so they keep their heads down and focus on the task at hand, its a tough spot to be in really.
@@chrislaverick6413 You saying not exactly then you said that they are woke because they study in woke universities. The main point is that they are WOKE, we all know who brainwashed them to be woke. This is why they don't fight against it. They and their Liberal parents are woke and they support Women with dicks.
Thank you Caitlin for bringing up moral character, responsibility, and sacrifice. From what I remember about the most recent documentary about you as an athlete vs. you and your gender identity, you said something like this-you always knew you were different, but you had to make a very deliberate choice on whether to fully invest in becoming the best male Olympic athlete, or do you invest on your own personal journey of self discovery. You made a choice to be the athlete, and that ultimately meant that you put off or sacrificed exploring your gender identity. I applaud you and have a tremendous amount of respect for you.
I think we should do away with the categories of "men" and "women" in sports, and make the divisions "XX" and "XY". I don't care how you identify, but if you have a Y chromosome, you can only compete against others who have a Y chromosome.
Now that is to logical, it would be about genetics and that would take away their ability to identify as one or the other or both depending on however you're FEELING that day! How did we get here???? I fully accept an individuals right to choose but this is turning inclusion into your rights being more important than mine and everyone should be outraged!!
@@babybobbiejeansmom XY intersex woman who were never men would all of sudden have to compete as men, that's insane you don't understand science at all, there are almost no gene's on the Y chromosome testosterone is what makes men stronger and bigger than women.
"Dude grow your hair out and say you're a woman, you'll have a scholarship (no student debt) and you'll win every competition! When it's all over just say you were wrong and you'll have saved so much money and you will still have your *ick!"
the only way to be fair is to have a separate category for transgender women and another separate category for transgender men. People would watch it. The news and tv shows would have more to cover and could charge more for commercials during the events and everything would be fair. Mixing the trans genders in with the naturals is not fair at all, its like letting the boys compete against the girls and the girls trying to compete against the boys. It is ridiculous not to let the trans people have their own category for competitive sports.
No, people like this guy need to realize that they are faux women. They are in no man’s land when it comes to competition and dating. Straight talk. No pun intended.
The U.S. national womens soccer team LOST in a scrimmage against an under 15 year old boys soccer club based in Texas in 2017. The final score was 5-2. The advantage even at that age shows the clear difference between men and women.
Agreed, this segment is really scraping the bottom of the barrel, even for Fox News. The anti-trans dog whistle is loud and clear to the radical right-wing.
Lia wanted to be happy at the expense of other people. The rules allowed it but if “she” had the slightest sense of integrity, “she” wouldnt poke on them and take advantage. There is this saying that even if you can, it doesnt mean you should.
my grand daughter has left womens swim after being a high school champ for four years. she said there is absolutely no point to continue here career into college with the woke community. It's a travesty.
@@lisahardy9707 Yep, because why work your life off for something the idiots are just going to hand to someone else. Would you go to work in the morning knowing you get NOTHING for it, not even a chance for something.
as a female in sports I don't think I could beat Lia. I play volleyball but still wouldn't wanna be on the other side of her and especially the force she could exhibit would be twice of mine...
People can identify as a gender that makes sense for them. Look at Caitlyn Jenner, she went through a lot to be the gender that she truly is on the inside. I don't think that how someone identifies is what this conversation is about but rather what someone does with that identity in regard to women's sports.
@@kevinbowers3783 No. People change their name, from married women to people whose parents were fanatic Harry Potter or Star Wars or Game of Thrones fans. It's Caitlyn now.
I don't agree that it is not Thomas's fault! He could have given "his trophy" to Gaines as she tied with him. We all would have respected him more. And all the months after that win he was out there advocating and telling everyone that people like him should be accepted in women's sports!!! So, yes, Thomas should carry at least some blame.
Bruce Jenner is a man, and needs to REALLY know Jesus. He claims to be a Christian.... I don't know how he can reconcile his life style with the scriptures... you can't.....
It's not just taking medals it's theft aswell because other swimmers lose scholarships and endorsements that's financial and should be a crime and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
This is the doing if Democrats. More women vote Democrat than men. Maybe women who vote left will figure it out by the next election. I doubt it, but maybe.
What they say is true, man and woman are different in alot of things including body type ,muscles ect. The sports need to be equal. Men,women, and transgender. Separate against their own.
Agree, if they want to compete they can compete according to thier biology or they can lobby for professional trans sports teams instead of demanding everyone use a pronoun like that is somehow fair to everyone who isn't trans! Inclusion shouldn't include the exclusion of everyone else!
@@lisahardy9707 really? how? men, women. trans men, trans women....how does that discriminate? I am asking honestly, as it seems more like discrimination when bio males compete against bio females, to me..
I mean, you're right. I just use whatever pronoun comes most easily to me though. I have no desire to deliberately use the pronoun that they don't want. Sometimes "they" seems most natural. That's the biggest point about the pronouns in my opinion, we can't force anybody to get the pronouns "right", meaning whatever the person wants. My 6 year old son listens in to these shows while he's playing and he likes to weigh in on the issues every once in awhile and he just called Lia Thomas "it" yesterday. Sounded appropriate, she/he doesn't look like a man or a woman.
@@dontfeedthebots7133 Judging by your name...and your comment... "if I didn't know better, I'd think you weren't a bot"...you're obsessed with 'bots.' And double negatives.
@@jayaom4946 They is plural. Don't fall for this trick. Don't let anyone put words in your mouth. This is a pathological disorder and for some strange reason is being promoted by a multitude of people, groups and organizations that would not otherwise agree or cooperate. Some gain power, others get rich, while still others bandwagon other topics/areas, furthering their own agenda. Speech control-resist!
Absolutely selfishness. No different than a thief stealing from someone to make themselves happy. In the mean time the victim is now affected and goes without due to the offender. That’s not acceptable and neither should this be. Glad to see the Olympics made the right decision. One man’s happiness shouldn’t come at the expense of everyone else. If he’s confused, the rest of the world should not be obligated to acquiesce to make him feel better. He needs help to realize his true identity, and that’s not what he chose.
"This is not Lia Thomas' fault..." Umm, no. Thomas is responsible for his part in this by even participating. No decent man, trans-identified or not, would not participate. They would cut their losses in the MEN's division and move on--which Thomas did not do.
I can’t agree more with Jenner. Integrity. Lia seemed to lack it. I mean she didn’t even try to go easier on her competitors too. She was smoking them. And she seemed to get a kick out of it. Like she was just so proud she was able to basically lap her competitors.
It legit doesn't make sense I mean it's not like petite size men acting like that it's these large men that clearly our men walking around acting like that
I don’t care but wasn’t Bruce basically nominated for that by the publishers and that automatically happened for the cover. Just pointing that out. *Edit:* I understand the irony of that however.
His first year as a “women”. Lia is just a guy with a different gender as a listed. You don’t thing Bruce can today beat the Tour de France. I have no doubt he could beat women cat but hours
@@saucysuishi341 like I said he is a hypocrite. Just because Caitlyn cheated women differently than Lia doesn't make him any less of a cheat. Pot called kettle black and just because pot happens to lean to the right he's getting a pass.
@@MatildaAmponsah00 Well she never tried to get the award. It was basically given to her. She should've declined in my opinion but she prob didn't think too much about it (a mistake on her part). But I don't blame her for making that mistake - it was essentially a bait to be honest. And regardless of the past, I like the fact that she's trying to do what's right. So let's not blame her for trying to stand up for women...
@@frankzane5913 Lia too probably isn't thinking too much about it right now. he hasn't given that award back and apologized yet, has he? Caitlyn is a hypocrite and a cheat just like Lia. Maybe you see them differently but in my eyes they're both the same.
Exactly! But then again, look who’s talking! A man who pretends to be a woman! Though he was an awesome olympic athlete and champion, to me, Bruce lost all credibility the minute he denied his own true self! So while he can state some truths, I don’t trust a thing that comes out of the mouth of a man or woman who can’t even accept their own physiological gender realities!
Well, Lia is fairly young and is being handled by adults and organizations with a lot more means, experience and resources. So some of that, at least in part, might be true.
Well you have to bear in mind this person isn’t really right in the head, and before you call me out for being mean, I am transgender too. The rules let this person do it. When it comes down to it, ultimately it isn’t their fault, but they are the face of all of this.
@@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066 no. Anyone with a moral compass realizes this is wrong. He’s a jerk who got so many swirlies he decided to switch teams. No sympathy for this male chauvinist pig.
I have so much respect for Caitlyn Jenner. She has the rare insight of having lived and performed as a male olympic athlete and is 100% honest and forthright about the fact that transgender women who have been through normal male puberty are always going to have the edge over biological women where sports are concerned. It's not about transphobia or being non-inclusive it's about biology and common sense. I don't know what the answer is.... probably an individual one based on many things, but Lia Thomas being able to swim amongst main stream elite women swimmers with her extra height, muscle mass, arm length, hand and foot size, increased lung capacity etc isn't it. I like they way they all spoke about it showing Lia's "bad character" by her being happy to win against the women after previously losing to other men. That's a pretty shitty attitude to have and I'm glad they had the guts to speak about it.
This lady’s been out here saying bio men shouldn’t be in girls sports teams for over a decade now, and been labelled transphobic despite being actually trans herself. She knew right from the start what would happen, and she clocked it right.
You can talk about “character integrity” all day long but you lose my trust and respect the minute you decide it’s appropriate to use the female pronoun “she” in order to refer to a MAN. THOMAS IS A MAN…AND AS SUCH, HE’S NOT A “SHE”!! HE IS A HE!!!!! HELLO??
I don't really have a problem calling Lia Thomas a woman as it should be her choice to live how she wants and her personal life isn't anyone's business, but when athletic competition is concerned Lia has no business swimming against women.
@@dogzebra2708 Considering men and women are human-defined concepts, yes you can change them and have it make sense. I mean hell the government could literally re-write the words and have men be "Unicorns" with that horn down there. XD
*HE* started this *ASSULT* against women with his *Woman of the Year* Vouge cover in 2015. Bruce is a flipping hypocrite and I want to vomit when I see him as a *FAKE broad* spewing his *hypocrisy* on Fox News. Bruce makes my skin crawl. With his man voice
on one hand it's good Caitlyn is speaking out however right after her transition she was "woman of the year" which stole the role from a biological woman.
Caitlyn got an award to be on the cover of a magazine. no big deal. Thomas is kicking women off places on the podium, costing them not just awards but sponsorship and scholarships possible too. Thomas is about 6ft and so obviously "MALE" in every appearance.. the world is looking at USA now and thinking " what dafuq?"
I don’t have any for him. Anyone coming at me, trying to convince me they don’t have male genetics, will get popped in the mouth. What are they gonna do? Charge me for hitting a woman? Lmfao
Why don't all professional female swimmers just refuse to race Lia Thomas - boycott any race Lia Thomas runs in. And any other race with a biological Male competing in it. That'll solve the problem and maybe make organizations realize just how unjust the situation has become and how passionate these women are. You go girls, take back the power.
As a woman, I agree with her. Also, kids should not have intervention if possible. Especially surgeries. Adults should do what makes them happy. I tend to vote D but this issue is a big problem.
Absolutely, the mutilation of our children in the name of gender identity is abhorrent. Now back to your reference of Bruce Jenner as her I think you should know that HE has not done any reassignment surgery yet he is still a genuine man under that dress
Thank you Caitlyn, very kind of you to speak up. Your are right about this whole situation. I bumped into this comment by accident but i sure am glad i stopped to listen to you.
The second lady took the words right out of my keyboard. I was going to say the same thing of just how plain old selfish it is that she’s talking about her being happy completely at the expense of her teammates. She’s literally spitting in their faces by doing this. I can’t believe this is real life anymore it seems like a sick joke. These are the kind of people who grew up with parents who never told them no regarding anything they just let their kids do what they want they don’t hold them accountable besides maybe how they do in school but that’s it. The thing is years ago like especially in the 90s still and early 2000s these kinds of kids with such “parents” unless their parents are loaded these kids would have to enter the real world and back then and especially the further back in time you go the more dramatic it gets and it’s just how harsh life can be in the real world back then society would put most people in check but now with the liberals they want to coddle this people into adulthood, they grow up from elementary school being taught by SJW lgbtq racist (anti-racist) teachers who aren’t even teachers anymore but activists in school to indoctrinate their beliefs into the kids and brainwash them and it’s starts in elementary school for Christ’s sake sometimes in kindergarten I mean can you imagine then going thru 12 more years of that indoctrination camp then off to the next one formerly known as a university where they go to get their degree in victimhood and socialism with their racist BLM lgbtq racist (anti-racist) professors. Then they spend their days looking for people on social media to call bigots and racists and transphobes and even approach random strangers in busy public places one by one until they find someone that misgenders them so they can then scream at that person and film them and put it online. Here’s what it comes down to I look at everyone as an individual I don’t care if you’re trans I don’t care about any of that crap I don’t care what religion you are what ethnicity what gender I only care about the type of person you are and in my world the way I see things there are only two types of human beings I categorize people into either they are good humans who help others or they are bad humans who hurt others. If your nasty to others if your not considerate to others if you don’t respect others if you harm people or take advantage of them then I will not respect you I will have a problem with you. Just because someone is trans or even a veteran I’m not going to automatically respect you. You could be a horrible human being. We can’t forget that, judge people as individuals and lia Thomas as an individual is a bully basically she’s a selfish self centered spoiled brat with absolutely no respect for her teammates whatsoever as I said she might as well spit in their faces.
I wish someone would ask Caitlin how she feels about getting woman of the year after not even being a woman for a full year... Happy she is speaking out but still... Curious about that.
Easy. Transwomen are women, but different from biologically born women. Therefore in some instances, such as sports, transwomen have an advantage over women who were born women. Now, what advantages do transwomen have over biologically born women when it comes to the woman of the year award? None. The award is not based on your physical strength but on your actions. Hence, all women, including trans ones, are on equal footing here. Honestly, Caitlyn speaking out against the woke crowd, facing hatred from both the left and the right just made her more worthy of that prize in my eyes. She has shown that she trully is a courageous, dignified woman who stands by her values.
Who finds this ok, a man swimming against women. It's just like when mlb players taking steroids in the 90's. It's cheating . How can he not she be happy about a win?
Why does Fox have a transvestite man on their channel! Jenner is a man Lia Thomas is a male, a male is a male and a woman is a woman!!! This makes me so sick!!!
I'm glad Caitlyn being one of the best athletes of our time spoke up. Its injustice to women In sports.
Brucey deuce*
Caitlin wasn't an athlete.
That was Bruce
Caitlyn was never an athlete..... what are you talking about?
Caitlyn Jenner looks exactly like a prettier transvestite version of Donnie Tramp
Bruce needs to give his woman of the year award back before he can critique the woke folk
Mediocre and underachieving men looking for an easy trophy. It's disgusting and despicable
so are over dramatic bots
@@dontfeedthebots7133 Who is being over dramatic? It’s just truth. Bruce is a cheater and deserves no praise or medals he took from women. He is not a real athlete. He is a petty, arrogant cheater who is unworthy of his achievements.
@@andrewyerian214 who you talking about Jenner competed as a man in the 70's and won Olympic gold.
@@andrewyerian214 are you an adult or a child cuz all adults know this. I wasn't even born yet and I k now that Caitlyn competed as a man.
It’s fooking sick
Going from being ranked in the 500's as a man to a champion as a woman says all we need to know. Lia is cheating and he is hurting woman's sports.
Exactly, unfortunately that is their goal
We must create a separate category for trans athletes. They cannot be allowed to compete against biological women.
No separate category and no separate changing rooms. A man is a man and a woman is a woman.
He keeps saying it's not Lia Thomases fault he followed the rules. Not true, he just lost in court trying to get the rules changed in his favor. He just wants to cheat. He didn't show to the open division when offered.
It's true tho, the fact that Thomas was allowed to join women's sport wasn't his fault because he followed the rules to be eligible.
But just like Caitlyn [also] said, if Thomas had a sensible mind and considerate of others [women], he should have never even attempted to shift categories [from men's to women's sport] because he knew very well that he had that certain advantage.
Caitlyn said it herself, for Thomas' case, it's all about the person's character and integrity.
„Transitioning comes with responsibility and integrity“ - WHAT A STATEMENT by a true champion
Indeed! Here's to Caitlyn Jenner!
Bruce Jenner is a man, and needs to REALLY know Jesus. He claims to be a Christian.... I don't know how he can reconcile his life style with the scriptures... you can't.....
Bruce Jenner is a man, and needs to REALLY know Jesus. He claims to be a Christian.... I don't know how he can reconcile his life style with the scriptures... you can't.....
Transitioning isn't the right word, since it's biologically impossible. It's cross-dressing accompanied with physical and chemical castration.
@@sampreece There are only 2 sexes 2 genders.
Absolutely true. Lia Thomas has zero integrity and those medals need to be taken away.
No. She earned it. Women asked for equality. This is their wake up call. Don't bail out women for their decades of feminist rhetoric.
@@SkankHuntForty2 this isn't equality feminisms wants you idiot. Men and women are biologically different. Men are better in sports . We feminist just want the same oppertunities in life. Letting a men compete it's doing that. I'm not a super woke feminist.
@@SkankHuntForty2 You win the internets dumbest comment award. Congratulations.
@@SkankHuntForty2 Men competing in female sports is NOT feminist. Feminists had to fight to carve out a spot for themselves in sports 100 years ago, which was undermined and attacked by the men at the time. It is now being attacked and undermined in a similar way. A narcissist stopping at nothing for to stroke their own ego and belittling and undermining women in the process? That has been the feminist fight from the very beginning.
@@SkankHuntForty2 an idiot on the loose😅😅
I must say Caitlin def got my respect for how spot on she was on every front this interview . 👍👍👍
Shes trump on drag she sounds just as stupid as the rest of you lying racist repubs
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Jenners a man, a 'he' not a she.
Bruce Jenner is a man, and needs to REALLY know Jesus. He claims to be a Christian.... I don't know how he can reconcile his life style with the scriptures... you can't.....
@@bucksera475 :P
Caitlyn Jenner is a transgender person that has common sense and understands how crazy these woke rules are and how much they are hurting womans sports
What does "woke" have to do with this?
He’s only trans because he killed a woman in a car crash that he caused. Look it up. Funny how he became a woman just after he murdered that woman. And used the trans card to get off on it.
Absolute disgusting freaks the lot of them…
Kudos to Caitlin. She is the perfect example that people can choose to be who ever they want to be (which I fully support), without compromising their commonsense and consideration toward the world around them.
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@@ApotropaicV exactly the man God Don't make mistakes he made your man you're a man if you're a female you're a female .
Read the Bible that's a sin
@@Blessed-vo6prfuck the bible
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Hmmm I’m a horse dragon 🐉
“Transitioning comes with responsibility and integrity” Well said Caitlyn!! Well said!!
😂🙈
What is the integrity part of this atrocity ???
If you fools are talking about integrity what the problem in letting a nutcase who identifies as female play in female sports, now who’s being transphobic, that trans is a female isn’t he as per your beliefs
But jenner drinks drives and killed someone! So tell me again about responsibility. It's a joke.
but more with a lot of brain demage...
Easy way to fix the problem is For the athletes to stand up and say they’re not gonna compete and just walk off the field. Enough athletes stand up for what’s right then you have no competition they’ll fix the problem at that point till then they will not.
I agree. Most athletes are Liberals and woke , this is why they don't fight against this nonsense.
Create a Transgender Sports Assoziation. And good is.
I think it's worth a try!
It's really unfair for all athletes involved, the way it is now.
@@ConservativeEastEuropean not exactly true, most amateur athletes train at varsity facilities, well as you know varsity which is university or college, is a breeding ground for woke and cancel culture, so they keep their heads down and focus on the task at hand, its a tough spot to be in really.
@@chrislaverick6413 You saying not exactly then you said that they are woke because they study in woke universities.
The main point is that they are WOKE, we all know who brainwashed them to be woke.
This is why they don't fight against it. They and their Liberal parents are woke and they support Women with dicks.
The females on the team should refuse to complete against Lia.
They were threatened. They were all told if they went against Leah publically they would never be able to get a job. let's face it, is true.
they are woke a f as well
@@hyperhoo1736 well they do not really have a choice - they risk being cancelled on that expense.
just freakin add a trans sports. Simple solution. Men, women and trans sports, 3 categories.
They did that… not one transgender turned up…
it's called special olympics
@@Weownit69 really, why would that be?
@@Razamusiconline they felt it was unfair advantage from what I’ve heard!
I thought the same thing… give them there own category…
Thank you Caitlin for bringing up moral character, responsibility, and sacrifice. From what I remember about the most recent documentary about you as an athlete vs. you and your gender identity, you said something like this-you always knew you were different, but you had to make a very deliberate choice on whether to fully invest in becoming the best male Olympic athlete, or do you invest on your own personal journey of self discovery. You made a choice to be the athlete, and that ultimately meant that you put off or sacrificed exploring your gender identity. I applaud you and have a tremendous amount of respect for you.
I think we should do away with the categories of "men" and "women" in sports, and make the divisions "XX" and "XY". I don't care how you identify, but if you have a Y chromosome, you can only compete against others who have a Y chromosome.
This is so brilliant! I wish this comment had gone viral.
@@Opo-D It will soon get more likes!
Yeah that sounds good! that way everyone can swim and face fair competition
Now that is to logical, it would be about genetics and that would take away their ability to identify as one or the other or both depending on however you're FEELING that day! How did we get here???? I fully accept an individuals right to choose but this is turning inclusion into your rights being more important than mine and everyone should be outraged!!
@@babybobbiejeansmom XY intersex woman who were never men would all of sudden have to compete as men, that's insane you don't understand science at all, there are almost no gene's on the Y chromosome testosterone is what makes men stronger and bigger than women.
"Dude grow your hair out and say you're a woman, you'll have a scholarship (no student debt) and you'll win every competition! When it's all over just say you were wrong and you'll have saved so much money and you will still have your *ick!"
And you can be on Fox News
yep, once competing isn't on the agenda any longer, I'm betting that suddenly, he realises that he'd rather be a man after all
Soo true. HOWEVER, jokes aside we should fight the system, not join them. Either way, I feel hopeless these days.... tough times!
@Monica Fajardo ,
That's more for being Jewish though
@@raphaeljacovani4540 people are sick of the woke bs (here in Europe anyway) i think normal people are wakening up
the only way to be fair is to have a separate category for transgender women and another separate category for transgender men. People would watch it. The news and tv shows would have more to cover and could charge more for commercials during the events and everything would be fair. Mixing the trans genders in with the naturals is not fair at all, its like letting the boys compete against the girls and the girls trying to compete against the boys. It is ridiculous not to let the trans people have their own category for competitive sports.
That’s a great idea💯
No way would anyone watch that garbage.
@@Cyndimarino for real.
@@sydvicious2378 Exactly! They make up 1% of the population. Many also have a sense of fairness and wouldn't take advantage of the rules.
No, people like this guy need to realize that they are faux women. They are in no man’s land when it comes to competition and dating. Straight talk. No pun intended.
I found a new level of respect for Jenner.... thank you
Thank you Caitlyn for having a sense of responsibility and integrity, and speaking truthfully.
The U.S. national womens soccer team LOST in a scrimmage against an under 15 year old boys soccer club based in Texas in 2017. The final score was 5-2. The advantage even at that age shows the clear difference between men and women.
Wow that's a very good example ..am gonna use your example with permission of course
This whole topic is just laughable. We really are a civilization in severe decline.
Agreed.. this is certainly a prime example...
Agreed, this segment is really scraping the bottom of the barrel, even for Fox News. The anti-trans dog whistle is loud and clear to the radical right-wing.
@@murphy804 ...and you're just here to do your "due diligence" I take it? Not to make underhanded snarky opinions? 🙄
Indeed, it is amazing this discussion is even necessary or possible.
Just parts of the western world. Most of the world just thinks we are nuts
Caitlyn is right! Protect women's sports.
And protect women and men from dangerous drivers. Oh wait
Lia is so creepy
I believe HIS name is Liam :D
@@giannisksanthopoulos4300it’s actually Will*
Lia wanted to be happy at the expense of other people. The rules allowed it but if “she” had the slightest sense of integrity, “she” wouldnt poke on them and take advantage. There is this saying that even if you can, it doesnt mean you should.
my grand daughter has left womens swim after being a high school champ for four years. she said there is absolutely no point to continue here career into college with the woke community. It's a travesty.
I’m sorry to hear that. This just infuriates me that this is what’s happening.
so thats it she is just throwing in the towel giving up
@@lisahardy9707 Why should she continue swimming when there is a community of whiny, insufferable imbeciles who think men can become women?
@@lisahardy9707 Yep, because why work your life off for something the idiots are just going to hand to someone else. Would you go to work in the morning knowing you get NOTHING for it, not even a chance for something.
@@Xershade working for a living & competing are a little different
Wow, see Jenner having been an athlete knows the hard work it takes to win. She knows it’s not fair.
Caitlyn: Female competitors, looking at Lia: "I can't beat that." "That" says it all.
Yeah, it is THAT. Lia's got a male physique, THAT is a thing Lia has.
as a female in sports I don't think I could beat Lia. I play volleyball but still wouldn't wanna be on the other side of her and especially the force she could exhibit would be twice of mine...
@@penguinxlisa1339 *him/he
@@SquirrelJokes2000 yup
Well, they should have been a male.
Thank you for speaking out on this issue Caitlin. Huge respect to you.
Stop calling Thomas a "she" please.....If I say I'm a street light am I a street light?
People can identify as a gender that makes sense for them. Look at Caitlyn Jenner, she went through a lot to be the gender that she truly is on the inside. I don't think that how someone identifies is what this conversation is about but rather what someone does with that identity in regard to women's sports.
@@airplane2425 sorry, Jenner is still a dude, listen to his voice....
This is not the issue here.
Dave Chapell said it best when he said YOU CAN PRETENT TO BE ANYTHING YOU LIKE, BUT AT WHAT EXTENT DO I HAVE TO PERTICIPATE.
Thank you Caitlyn Jenner for speaking the truth. God bless you.
Bruce
who would care what Bruce says, his brain is obviously twisted as can be
you mean Bruce right??
@@kevinbowers3783 No. People change their name, from married women to people whose parents were fanatic Harry Potter or Star Wars or Game of Thrones fans. It's Caitlyn now.
@@kevinbowers3783Yup.
We live.. in a SICK country 🤧
Sick world. It's the whole world that's sick 👎🏾
@@sophiadanyelle2276 it's not the world but sick it's a people in the world that sick they've lost complete control over themselves it's a meme world!
We did even before incidents like this.
Bruce your still Bruce no matter what you do to yourself.😂
I don't agree that it is not Thomas's fault! He could have given "his trophy" to Gaines as she tied with him. We all would have respected him more. And all the months after that win he was out there advocating and telling everyone that people like him should be accepted in women's sports!!! So, yes, Thomas should carry at least some blame.
Thank you, Caitlyn for speaking up! It's brave to do so, seeing how people like you and Blaire White get attacked for speaking the truth and facts.
Bruce Jenner is a man, and needs to REALLY know Jesus. He claims to be a Christian.... I don't know how he can reconcile his life style with the scriptures... you can't.....
You attack us by misgendering us thinking we are men and this is why we commit suicide because it’s dysphoric as hell
It's not just taking medals it's theft aswell because other swimmers lose scholarships and endorsements that's financial and should be a crime and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law
This is the doing if Democrats. More women vote Democrat than men.
Maybe women who vote left will figure it out by the next election. I doubt it, but maybe.
Time, resources & efforts wasted but hey they cheer it on
@@leekleek1
Exactly what I say.
How many of these women have pumped
their fist in the air and said, we support
the rainbow..Until. it comes for them.
George Eatmon
Spot on with your analogy. HE is a f.....g thief, simple as that. Also ANOTHER FAKE!!!!
What they say is true, man and woman are different in alot of things including body type ,muscles ect. The sports need to be equal. Men,women, and transgender. Separate against their own.
Monica D Allen when they take hormones so long the body changes and becomes more female or male. so the sports is equal
Agree, if they want to compete they can compete according to thier biology or they can lobby for professional trans sports teams instead of demanding everyone use a pronoun like that is somehow fair to everyone who isn't trans! Inclusion shouldn't include the exclusion of everyone else!
Whether you break rules because you can depends on character. True words.
I tend to dislike the Jenner’s and Kardashians, but I will agree with Caitlyn here. It is biologically unfair.
Why can't there be a Male, Female and Transgender categories?
They definitely need another category, maybe two more. It's so unfair like it is.
Thats called discrimination
@@lisahardy9707 really? how? men, women. trans men, trans women....how does that discriminate? I am asking honestly, as it seems more like discrimination when bio males compete against bio females, to me..
@@jenncole1727 Spoiler alert trans women competing with women is happening ALL over the world & the only people complaining are on FOX
@@lisahardy9707 thanks so much for your snarky a*s reply. bye felicia
Stop saying she. That’s a man. That’s why we are having this whole discussion and why it is a controversy.
I mean, you're right. I just use whatever pronoun comes most easily to me though. I have no desire to deliberately use the pronoun that they don't want. Sometimes "they" seems most natural. That's the biggest point about the pronouns in my opinion, we can't force anybody to get the pronouns "right", meaning whatever the person wants. My 6 year old son listens in to these shows while he's playing and he likes to weigh in on the issues every once in awhile and he just called Lia Thomas "it" yesterday. Sounded appropriate, she/he doesn't look like a man or a woman.
@@jayaom4946 if I didn't know better, I'd think you weren't a bot
@@dontfeedthebots7133 Judging by your name...and your comment...
"if I didn't know better, I'd think you weren't a bot"...you're obsessed with 'bots.' And double negatives.
@@jayaom4946 They is plural. Don't fall for this trick. Don't let anyone put words in your mouth. This is a
pathological disorder and for some strange reason is being promoted by a multitude of people, groups
and organizations that would not otherwise agree or cooperate. Some gain power, others get rich, while
still others bandwagon other topics/areas, furthering their own agenda. Speech control-resist!
@@jayaom4946 he looks like a man to me, and he def sounds like a man, oh and he swims like a man too for that matter
The swimmers should boycott the sport.
Then they'll have no choice to rid of this cheat.
I would if I were them. This is outrageous.
How creepy…
I’ll call Bruce “Caitlyn”, but he’s never going to be a she or her.
Absolutely selfishness. No different than a thief stealing from someone to make themselves happy. In the mean time the victim is now affected and goes without due to the offender. That’s not acceptable and neither should this be. Glad to see the Olympics made the right decision. One man’s happiness shouldn’t come at the expense of everyone else. If he’s confused, the rest of the world should not be obligated to acquiesce to make him feel better. He needs help to realize his true identity, and that’s not what he chose.
No men in women's sports PERIOD. ...IT'S CHEATING...and they should be ashamed of themselves....😡
hehe... period... i see what you did there.
It's biology....... get over it. Lia is physically a man, compete against men.
Or compete against other transgender men..
@@jedimindtricks5713 I'm wondering how this or what you said is even a thing.
That's a lie. 'she' was bottom of the pack in men's swimming. Of course 'she' switched to win!
This is called cheating!!!
"This is not Lia Thomas' fault..." Umm, no. Thomas is responsible for his part in this by even participating. No decent man, trans-identified or not, would not participate. They would cut their losses in the MEN's division and move on--which Thomas did not do.
I can’t agree more with Jenner. Integrity. Lia seemed to lack it. I mean she didn’t even try to go easier on her competitors too. She was smoking them. And she seemed to get a kick out of it. Like she was just so proud she was able to basically lap her competitors.
He/His*
Literally the dumbest debate that America (and the world) has ever engaged in!!!
It legit doesn't make sense I mean it's not like petite size men acting like that it's these large men that clearly our men walking around acting like that
Give it a minute.
The fact that the hypocrite who took woman of the year award from women is condemning Lia's actions is very telling.
I don’t care but wasn’t Bruce basically nominated for that by the publishers and that automatically happened for the cover. Just pointing that out.
*Edit:* I understand the irony of that however.
His first year as a “women”. Lia is just a guy with a different gender as a listed. You don’t thing Bruce can today beat the Tour de France. I have no doubt he could beat women cat but hours
@@saucysuishi341 like I said he is a hypocrite. Just because Caitlyn cheated women differently than Lia doesn't make him any less of a cheat.
Pot called kettle black and just because pot happens to lean to the right he's getting a pass.
@@MatildaAmponsah00 Well she never tried to get the award. It was basically given to her. She should've declined in my opinion but she prob didn't think too much about it (a mistake on her part). But I don't blame her for making that mistake - it was essentially a bait to be honest. And regardless of the past, I like the fact that she's trying to do what's right. So let's not blame her for trying to stand up for women...
@@frankzane5913 Lia too probably isn't thinking too much about it right now.
he hasn't given that award back and apologized yet, has he?
Caitlyn is a hypocrite and a cheat just like Lia.
Maybe you see them differently but in my eyes they're both the same.
Caitlyn took women of the year award but is speaking up against Lia taking medals from women….okay.
Bruce! Bruce Jenner is his name!!
Caitlyn is on point! Caitlyn knows both sides.
"this is not Lia Thomas's fault"... No personal responsibility at all.
Exactly! But then again, look who’s talking! A man who pretends to be a woman!
Though he was an awesome olympic athlete and champion, to me, Bruce lost all credibility the minute he denied his own true self!
So while he can state some truths, I don’t trust a thing that comes out of the mouth of a man or woman who can’t even accept their own physiological gender realities!
Well, Lia is fairly young and is being handled by adults and organizations with a lot more means, experience and resources.
So some of that, at least in part, might be true.
Well you have to bear in mind this person isn’t really right in the head, and before you call me out for being mean, I am transgender too.
The rules let this person do it.
When it comes down to it, ultimately it isn’t their fault, but they are the face of all of this.
The consequences are the same whether is Lia’s fault or not
@@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066 no. Anyone with a moral compass realizes this is wrong. He’s a jerk who got so many swirlies he decided to switch teams. No sympathy for this male chauvinist pig.
Lol. Bruce won ‘woman’ of the year. Jenner opened the door to this stuff.
But still getting paid...
Exactly, good to see you haven't drank the kool aid these other fox watchers and fox of course has.
not her name
You should all be ashamed for playing unfair and forcing the underdogs to accept this.
Thank you Bruce!
Jenner is 100 percent spot on !!!
I have so much respect for Caitlyn Jenner. She has the rare insight of having lived and performed as a male olympic athlete and is 100% honest and forthright about the fact that transgender women who have been through normal male puberty are always going to have the edge over biological women where sports are concerned. It's not about transphobia or being non-inclusive it's about biology and common sense. I don't know what the answer is.... probably an individual one based on many things, but Lia Thomas being able to swim amongst main stream elite women swimmers with her extra height, muscle mass, arm length, hand and foot size, increased lung capacity etc isn't it. I like they way they all spoke about it showing Lia's "bad character" by her being happy to win against the women after previously losing to other men. That's a pretty shitty attitude to have and I'm glad they had the guts to speak about it.
@MyLove-uj8zi except that's a whole different scenario. "Woman of the Year" is not a competition with physical advantages.
@@chickenquesadilla8139you’re right, instead it’s complete disrespect towards real women
This lady’s been out here saying bio men shouldn’t be in girls sports teams for over a decade now, and been labelled transphobic despite being actually trans herself. She knew right from the start what would happen, and she clocked it right.
There mind set is: My happiness is more important them fairness to you. There fairness idea is one sided. They must tairdown others to achieve it.
You can talk about “character integrity” all day long but you lose my trust and respect the minute you decide it’s appropriate to use the female pronoun “she” in order to refer to a MAN. THOMAS IS A MAN…AND AS SUCH, HE’S NOT A “SHE”!! HE IS A HE!!!!! HELLO??
AND that's still BRUCE, the media is part of this societal subversion playing these word games
@@REVNUMANEWBERN Yes…absolutely…the media along with a ton of other nonsensical, unethical, and immoral people!
I don't really have a problem calling Lia Thomas a woman as it should be her choice to live how she wants and her personal life isn't anyone's business, but when athletic competition is concerned Lia has no business swimming against women.
@@kms-nq1rh nah, he is a he.
@@meraki007 lol 😂 Exactly!!!
Oh wow! Caitlyn is so awesome for speaking up. Caitlyn Jenner, thank you!
Caitlyn Jenner knows both sides of this argument
Jenner never crossed athlete. Gender yes, sports, no.
Solution for Foxs Rating Dilemma: put Caitlin and Hannity in Tucker Carlson's old spot! Watch what happens!
Bruce *
he is not a fking she
My thoughts exactly
Soooooo outrageous I can’t even believe it’s true!!! God help us!
god's dead bot. pick a different saviour
which god?
Enough with these cross dressers.
@@osiris7208 no, he sounds rational
I'm so done with dudes that are calling themselves women
We, biological men, would have no problem at all with trans competing in men's competitions. Either trans women or men!
Wait when did Caitlin all the sudden make a ton of sense? Dam I almost want to give an applause.
She always has. Even when she was Bruce. He/she is still the same person. She speaks out about these things all the time
I've always found her to be very down to earth.. and I'm a conservative
Telling people that men can be women is neither sensible nor respectable.
@@dogzebra2708 Considering men and women are human-defined concepts, yes you can change them and have it make sense. I mean hell the government could literally re-write the words and have men be "Unicorns" with that horn down there. XD
Apparently after they named her woman of the year!
I've got an open mind but Bruce is one homely woman.
Lol. At least humble and honest though.
*HE* started this *ASSULT* against women with his *Woman of the Year* Vouge cover in 2015. Bruce is a flipping hypocrite and I want to vomit when I see him as a *FAKE broad* spewing his *hypocrisy* on Fox News. Bruce makes my skin crawl. With his man voice
Man
I think he makes a very pretty woman!
Bruce is apart of the problem. You can't play n the game and then distance yourself when it gets out of control
Trump did Jan 6 so did Fox
Lol you caught a troll 🤣🤣
@@bluemax92 ".....MUST.....BLAME......TWUUUMPO!!!!"
@@cnnothingburgerletsgobrand6381 Robinette did Russia in the rear until WW3. The last movie on earth ☠
The fact Lia and Riley tied shows how fast Riley is
There is already a category for transgender women. Male sports
I respect Caitlyn because time after time they have her as an advocate to speak up on this subject. Respect Respect Respect
His*
@@maximsamfira688 Him*
@@maximsamfira688
*It
@@mrclean29
*that
on one hand it's good Caitlyn is speaking out however right after her transition she was "woman of the year" which stole the role from a biological woman.
She’s a woman now?? Wonder if she’s tight?? 😅😂🤣
It's a dumb award anyway.
Bruce/Caitlyn didn't ASK for the "woman of the year" award, that was just some woke publication trying to be woke.
@@JW-qd3ol he sure had no problem accepting it 🤪
Caitlyn got an award to be on the cover of a magazine. no big deal. Thomas is kicking women off places on the podium, costing them not just awards but sponsorship and scholarships possible too. Thomas is about 6ft and so obviously "MALE" in every appearance.. the world is looking at USA now and thinking " what dafuq?"
I have so much respect for Caitlyn Jenner, she's a fantastic, stable and in my experience truer representation of what it means to be 'Trans'.
Because she's a dude lmfao.
I don’t have any for him.
Anyone coming at me, trying to convince me they don’t have male genetics, will get popped in the mouth.
What are they gonna do? Charge me for hitting a woman? Lmfao
@@barryscott9127 Lady still looks like a dude. Aerosmith's next song.
@@barryscott9127 Thank you for pointing that out Captain Obvious
@@mary-janegreen1513 no worries my man.
You got to give Bruce Jenner credit
Why don't all professional female swimmers just refuse to race Lia Thomas - boycott any race Lia Thomas runs in. And any other race with a biological Male competing in it.
That'll solve the problem and maybe make organizations realize just how unjust the situation has become and how passionate these women are. You go girls, take back the power.
Exactly.
As a woman, I agree with her. Also, kids should not have intervention if possible. Especially surgeries. Adults should do what makes them happy. I tend to vote D but this issue is a big problem.
Agree with who?
Absolutely, the mutilation of our children in the name of gender identity is abhorrent. Now back to your reference of Bruce Jenner as her I think you should know that HE has not done any reassignment surgery yet he is still a genuine man under that dress
When a Trans is the one making the most Sense 🤦
the end of the world is coming....
You have earned my respect, Kaitlin.
Thank you Caitlyn, very kind of you to speak up. Your are right about this whole situation. I bumped into this comment by accident but i sure am glad i stopped to listen to you.
By getting a tie Riley automatically won in ANYONES EYES
The second lady took the words right out of my keyboard. I was going to say the same thing of just how plain old selfish it is that she’s talking about her being happy completely at the expense of her teammates. She’s literally spitting in their faces by doing this. I can’t believe this is real life anymore it seems like a sick joke. These are the kind of people who grew up with parents who never told them no regarding anything they just let their kids do what they want they don’t hold them accountable besides maybe how they do in school but that’s it. The thing is years ago like especially in the 90s still and early 2000s these kinds of kids with such “parents” unless their parents are loaded these kids would have to enter the real world and back then and especially the further back in time you go the more dramatic it gets and it’s just how harsh life can be in the real world back then society would put most people in check but now with the liberals they want to coddle this people into adulthood, they grow up from elementary school being taught by SJW lgbtq racist (anti-racist) teachers who aren’t even teachers anymore but activists in school to indoctrinate their beliefs into the kids and brainwash them and it’s starts in elementary school for Christ’s sake sometimes in kindergarten I mean can you imagine then going thru 12 more years of that indoctrination camp then off to the next one formerly known as a university where they go to get their degree in victimhood and socialism with their racist BLM lgbtq racist (anti-racist) professors. Then they spend their days looking for people on social media to call bigots and racists and transphobes and even approach random strangers in busy public places one by one until they find someone that misgenders them so they can then scream at that person and film them and put it online. Here’s what it comes down to I look at everyone as an individual I don’t care if you’re trans I don’t care about any of that crap I don’t care what religion you are what ethnicity what gender I only care about the type of person you are and in my world the way I see things there are only two types of human beings I categorize people into either they are good humans who help others or they are bad humans who hurt others. If your nasty to others if your not considerate to others if you don’t respect others if you harm people or take advantage of them then I will not respect you I will have a problem with you. Just because someone is trans or even a veteran I’m not going to automatically respect you. You could be a horrible human being. We can’t forget that, judge people as individuals and lia Thomas as an individual is a bully basically she’s a selfish self centered spoiled brat with absolutely no respect for her teammates whatsoever as I said she might as well spit in their faces.
Exactly
Write a story already! Will y’all
And is NOT celebrating being a woman. If one is of a gender class one should be a team member.
Not a she. A he. He’s a sick jerk. By sick jerk I mean Lee. He’s a puke. Caitlyn is a decent human.
oh stan. for anew bot you sure have a lot to say. don't you realize you make the same amount for one sentence
I wish someone would ask Caitlin how she feels about getting woman of the year after not even being a woman for a full year... Happy she is speaking out but still... Curious about that.
Easy.
Transwomen are women, but different from biologically born women.
Therefore in some instances, such as sports, transwomen have an advantage over women who were born women.
Now, what advantages do transwomen have over biologically born women when it comes to the woman of the year award?
None.
The award is not based on your physical strength but on your actions.
Hence, all women, including trans ones, are on equal footing here.
Honestly, Caitlyn speaking out against the woke crowd, facing hatred from both the left and the right just made her more worthy of that prize in my eyes.
She has shown that she trully is a courageous, dignified woman who stands by her values.
He can never be a woman. The day a born as a man gives birth then they can consider themselves a woman.
@@manueldesousa5054 what youy said makes no sense.
That's a dude..
@@manueldesousa5054 You have my deepest sympathies. I wish you godspeed in whatever you're going through :/ Men cannot become women.
Caitlyn is on point ! This was ridiculous Lia should not have taken advantage of the situation shows character and honesty
I wonder if Bruce ever gets sick of his own voice?
Good on Caitlyn Jenner for coming out and talking about this.
Love Caitlyn as much as I admired Bruce!
YES YES YES, GIRL.
All roads lead to narcissism.
What Americans need to focus on is making a better health care for their citizens so these ppl can get access to psychiatrist. This is a whole circus
they should just make a trans sports league
@@Himmyjewett Nobody would watch that circus.
Who finds this ok, a man swimming against women. It's just like when mlb players taking steroids in the 90's. It's cheating . How can he not she be happy about a win?
Bruce Jenner started this bull when he accepted the Woman if the Year award!
William was completely uncompetitive as a swimmer. 6 foot 3 inches tall. Give me a break.
Why does Fox have a transvestite man on their channel! Jenner is a man Lia Thomas is a male, a male is a male and a woman is a woman!!! This makes me so sick!!!