This sounds like teaching 1. Don’t, you don’t get paid basically anything unless you are super popular and even then it’s just like ok 2. Dealing with children the entire work day, yes including adult children 3. Everyone in the profession saying “just dont.”
Gonna be entirely honest though, it genuinely does sound fun, even with all the context of the industry and well, the difficulties that come with it. Though probably too mentally ill to ever have enough money and/or time and energy to actually ever get to that point. Probably just gonna have to rely on other forms of art and entertainment (because sitting at a computer punching numbers in while slowly losing whatever will there's left to live is awful, in both of the contexts this applies, also being a waiter is... a unique experience, and mixing is fun but time consuming and doesn't bring a lot of money in)
The Rigger being portrayed as a wizard is totally accurate. I changed majors after my first 3d modeling class because I determined you have to be a lunatic or a divine being to rig.
@@cedric3973 rigging has a HUGE range in complexity. Simple rigging can be learned in an afternoon, but there is no limit AT ALL to how complex you can go with it.
@@keithdavy7346 How complex do you think an autonomous ROV built for the US navy was back in 2013? More or less complex in its tracking systems than a vtuber model?
@@cedric3973 that's an advanced rig tho there weren't that many requirements for the rig for the range of purpose/usage it had. I don't know how outdated the 2013 era is but to function properly it has to be advanced. Professional vtuber can go for either intermediate or advanced (not very advanced as there'd be little purpose to that).
I learned how to rig in less than a week and the result was mid-okayish... and you are so right, having a proper and professional rig must take months of hard work and pain- 😭💜
I made my own Vtuber model, and it was very, VERY hard. I spent a week trying to make it just right, and now I never use it because I'm afraid of becoming a Vtuber and then someday ending up like tord(eddsworld) and leaving the community and because Vtuber studio stopped loading🥲
I've done both, because I wanted to experience it, the best I could do was getting my simple terribly drawn character to move, open his mouth wide, smile, blink, and look around, it took 3 days of me rigging not knowing what I was doing XD Basically, respect to the riggers and artists Edit: Also, I had to redo layers 2-3 times because I didn't know the body parts had to be in seperate layers, it was 1 layer first, then wrong layers after, pain
No one's great at first try, the real insanity is that there are people that like to do that and are willing to dedicate so much time of their lives to practice that they eventually get good at it.
I've tried it out too! The result wasn't too bad but the character I made it from had very simple eyes (lines) and no mouth movement so. I think the strangest part about me is that I enjoyed the process! I want to get better, unfortunately it takes a lot of time but maybe some day I'll do it more...
If they recognize that they know little in the subject, and they strive to know more then it’s fine. But it’s when they start thinking they know more than they do or start assuming without doing proper research, that’s when it becomes dangerous.
I don't think people realized that having the model and rigging it is just half the battle. Just because you have a good model doesn't mean you're instantly famous, you still need to be a likeable person and have some sort of talent behind that avatar.
@Heseth the thing is vtuber streaming is on a hypetrain these days as long as you have a standout model and can somewhat deliver content with a personality that matches it it's smooth sailing compared to trying to grow from scratch as a regular streamer
Yeah i think you're trying to make vtubers seem like more then they actually are. We know the appeal and thats okay XD (Talent not included.) *Joking btw*
Imagine having a likable personality and the energy of 1000 coffee.. and you know someone wo creates models and riggs for money but... you dont know what software is working well and what is just a scam to get money from noobs who want to be vtubers.. what would you do.. you ask a professional.. just to be told you are arrogant to even assume you could understand how complex this is. Because starting with the first obvious question equals believing its easy right? But if you're pissed at people who are where you once stood... you already failed being likable.
As a person that has worked on several Vtube Projects and working on one currently, I have seen this short about a year ago think" OH, I am NEVER gonna make a model, it looks WAY to complicated." Here I am now, made a model for a dnd project, school, now finally working on my personal Vtube model. GOD, HELLA RESPECT FOR THE ARTISTS AND RIGGERS!!!
step three: avoid skeb skeb: fivver in a sense but a japanese artist might do you're commission heard some having issues with it and of course prob some scams plus a wonky TOS & policy on payment to no refunds (don't quote me on that)
Step three: Make PNG doodle Step four: PNG tube instead Step five: Realise this is way more convenient since theirs no mic to have to work around in facial tracking software. Step six: Game
Tbh, im not even buying one! I'm an artist that somehow fails to do digital art, and I'm also broke, so the only solution was to join a few discord servers and find people willing to do an art trade. I understand how long it takes to make these amazing models, so I offered a years worth of artwork for one. I have someone on the job right now:)
I would have asked that question though, as there could be multiple programs for face tracking and i don't know which one you'd use nor enough about Vtubing to know how to figure it out. Anyway, thank you for answering :) I might try to make a tiny stickman and rigg it for fun to see just how difficult rigging can be. It seems hellish, those artists are incredible.
This only really happens if your workflow requires a lot of different software for different steps, most of the time we're glad to answer a question that simple
@@dallet6697 It's frustrating because like 100% of the time the people who ask "what app do you use" assume the program is doing a lot of the heavy lifting for them. Like, I use CSP, but I'm capable of creating art in literally any software. I can use MS Paint, it's just a pain in the ass compared to having some layers. You have no idea how many times I've seen people ask about the software I use then get shocked pikachu face/attitude when they realize it doesn't miraculously make art easier. It's frustrating because of the assumption that it's software and not *practice and training* that makes the artwork, lol.
@@vivaldi_is_dreamingWith all due respect I don't understand how you can assume all that from such a seemingly harmless question. I'm an artist and to me it sounds more equivalent to asking which art supplies I use. I genuinely have never met someone who thinks art programs do all the work for them, and if those people actually exist that just makes me wonder what their education was like to make such a braindead assumption.
I imagine it's akin to the car mechanic's nightmare of the 4:45pm customer coming in and getting upset when you can't fit the entire vehicle tune up in their delusional concept that a "full tune up" only takes about 15 minutes... Because "the guy they normally take it to" has them convinced a "full tune up" is only an oil change.
@@greymane_gaming3435 honestly even an oil change can take an hour, depends on when the last one was done (then again it's kinda therapeutic watching chunks slooowly drip out the drain plug)
Unsung hero right here. I'm not super familiar with the process of rigging models but 3 models in 4 months sounds *fast* so friendly reminder to not overwork yourself! (Also happy Pride!)
Or maybe people have already looked around, seen the different software that can be used, and then thought, "Rin's software works quite well, I wonder what they use?"
Imagine in like 50 years someone is gonna find this, look at the millions of Vtubers that use mix and match, and treasure it like how we treasure old techniques from like 500BC
Okay but I love how much emphasis you put on the artists and riggers who make vtuber models, cuz I feel like a lot of the time people don't realize how much work is put into that
I feel like my favorite part about the Avatar is how the eyes portray the emotion you're feeling at the moment and I love how the eyes dim with the grimace of the mood and they Brighten as the tone becomes brighter
Rigging isn't the hardest part of our job tbf, it's just painstakingly long as a process, imagine cutting a model just to put little triangles and try to make an image move with very few frames of animation, but still need to make it as smooth as possible, that's basically it
I’ve rigged two models now. It does seem like there should be an easier way available. Like drawing the art directly onto a premade rig to at least handle eyes and head movement. It seems like 80% of the work is reinventing the wheel, except the wheel is blinking animations.
She really trynna destroy competition by thwarting its uprising.
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Honestly, you have to respect the work behind the Vtuber avatar. I only get these Vtube videos when they appear under the UA-cam shorts like here, but there are some really high-quality avatars in the community.
There is actually a software that lets you create a model that is free to use for stream things just like it is a videogame character creator Not as beautiful fancy and personalized as full rigged model like yours but when you don't have the resources itd actually a really good solution
imo vroid models with enough time and effort can look just as good as live 2D, some people even prefer vroid to live 2D. Personally though, I still like 2D models better but I do acknowledge how impressive vroid models can look
@@irlenananYeah they can, but sometimes you have to have some knowledge of how all that stuff works too. It took me ages to figure out some of it and I'm still not perfect at it. It's tough.
@Ena I've been looking into all the stuff, having some guidance to just play with to try and figure out if it is something to seriously consider or if it is not worth it for me. Test the waters before jumping in with even the financial side.
daaaam, this was more brutal then it had to be, but understandable with this having the context that your apart of an agency, you probably get those questions a lot. still it’s really cool you pointed peeps in the right direction if they want to get started in your business, it’s very cool of you :)
@@XodabeefIt's not free at all, it's 7000 yen. She even got into a copyright dispute because she completely forgot she's a recolored Rindo and started selling merch without the artist's permission.
If Step 3 exists for you, skip Step 2. If you're going to regret not doing it, do it. The "don't" is advice for people who thought it was going to be easy to do, with no stress or time investment beyond streaming itself, and maybe an easy revenue stream. If you're committed to it even knowing already how hard it is, you're the kind of person who should do it.
Steps to making a vtuber if you wanna make it yourself Get app software that can export .psd Make sketch of character Draw character 1 time Draw character again but separate every piece of clothing and part of said character and things you normally wouldn't be able to see into different layers, yes, sometimes this applies to lineart too sometimes Shade said parts of the character, also, in different layers depending on the part Make sure there's no mistakes Go into live 2d Suffer through heirarchy, parameters, meshes, and layers and movements not looking right and crying about it for the next week How to get vtuber model: Pay a large sum of money to an artist and rigger :)
This is exactly why I've been taking years just off and on designing and redesigning my model. *If* it ever is completed someday, which I hope it will be, it will have been painstakingly patiently handcrafted, something I can be proud of. For now, I'm just working on my VRChat world to vibe with friends in, got the interior's basics mostly modeled, working on the exterior stuff like the ground now, hah. Then I'll get back to making custom 3D models, and someday, I'll rig a 2D model possibly ^^'
Wooo, luckily I have experience creating, rigging, and animating 3d models. Now if only I had an entertaining personality instead of crippling anxiety.
I'm also a 3D artist. In my case the problem would be the program for the tracking. I don't know what programs there are so my only option that I also know is free would be creating it with any game engine that supports opencv and several hours of debugging, crying and praying so that it finally works.
They likely are asking what software you're using for tracking. xD There's well over 20 different versions of software for vtubers to track them, rig them, and even create. So I think the question was more in that direction.
Nah. If they would've asked that, they could've just googled it. There are like two softwares people use for the most part for the tracking and one for rigging. For the tracking everyone has to decide by themselves which they prefer. Just because VTuber x uses software x, doesn't mean that the person who asked should use software x.
I'm pretty sure if they genuinely meant that, they would just ask that. Like, why be so generic? Why not actually say, "Hey, I was wondering what tracking software do you use?", not just, "What app are you using for your vtuber?". Seriously. Also Google is a thing
@@CrunchCrunchCrunchyCrunch But it's their choice to use the same software as someone they know has experience in it, people are more likely to trust others they know
@@aprettydumbperson Then they should still specifically ask "What software are you using for tracking?" and not "what software are you using?" since software can mean ANYTHING for vtubers. Software for the drawing, software for the rigging, software for the tracking or, the case which is probably meant when people ask in such generic ways, "Softwares which give you a full rigged model which you can stream with immediately".
@@CrunchCrunchCrunchyCrunch If I asked what software someone's using, it's likely because I like the results and want a similar outcome. If you're a beginner and don't know the good setups, asking around is how you learn. I've had artists or people who want to learn drawing ask me what I use for my art, since they don't know where to start since there's a lot of stuff out there. Sometimes it's easy to get overwhelmed and you just want to see what someone else chooses to use.
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As someone who is doing it all on my own, modeling, rigging, blend shapes, all the programs to make them move, face and body tracker, what outfit can I use... And redoing it per model/outfit... I get it.
You have a character card in Koikatsu and it really helps me makes my stress go away. Thanks for your character creator, your amazing personality and the one who created the Koikatsu card.
It depends on the company, for Hololive and Nijisanji they have pre-made models that they hire talent to use, but idol and Phase Connect are 2 examples of agencies that let you pick an artist to design your model. Source: the audition page of the agency websites
I love to see someone make it like a character creator dress up game. Think some artists get very close to that which I think it's incredible. Love the work they done for yours, and pity the empty wallet from all the art and monitors you need to get.
I watched a UA-cam video once of someone making and animating a model from scratch and the time it took is a lot longer than one might think and I personally think that the people who make and animate these models really need more credit.
Becoming a VTuber is either A: get accepted by a company, which is stressful and has it’s drawbacks, or B: go independent. If you chose B you now have two new options to pick from, either A: do everything yourself which is a really really really long process, or B: outsource everything, which is really really really expensive. Becoming a VTuber is really really really hard, so you shouldn’t do it if you’re not really really really serious about it. (Maybe start off as a pngtuber first, or just stream normally without a face cam first if you’re not completely sure?)
Ive always wanted to use a model that i drew myself, in my own "Cartoon meets slightly anime" art style But, yeah, the rigging part is holding me back because i cannot for the life of me figure out Live2D, let alone care enough to buy the full version Ill probably just pay someone to rig it for me if i ever want to try V-Tubing
![Smoother animation ≠ Better animation [read description]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_KRb_qV9P4g/mqdefault.jpg)
You shouldn’t have told us this
This sounds like teaching
1. Don’t, you don’t get paid basically anything unless you are super popular and even then it’s just like ok
2. Dealing with children the entire work day, yes including adult children
3. Everyone in the profession saying “just dont.”
and she pinned it…
free ammunition is free!
You got drawn and quartered, tortured on the orders of a King. (Really?) How'd you get beat by a dude named Lawshank?
Gonna be entirely honest though, it genuinely does sound fun, even with all the context of the industry and well, the difficulties that come with it. Though probably too mentally ill to ever have enough money and/or time and energy to actually ever get to that point. Probably just gonna have to rely on other forms of art and entertainment (because sitting at a computer punching numbers in while slowly losing whatever will there's left to live is awful, in both of the contexts this applies, also being a waiter is... a unique experience, and mixing is fun but time consuming and doesn't bring a lot of money in)
"This game was rigged from the start."
God, I wish.
Fallout new Vegas 10/10 would play again
Joshua Graham crediting his rigger, based, *but what of the others involved in creating his model?* 😂
This model was rigged from the start*
Had a 14k roll of bad luck huh?
But the model was indeed rigged.
The Rigger being portrayed as a wizard is totally accurate. I changed majors after my first 3d modeling class because I determined you have to be a lunatic or a divine being to rig.
Its not that hard, but I learned to do it back in 2013 for a robot I was building.
@@cedric3973 rigging has a HUGE range in complexity. Simple rigging can be learned in an afternoon, but there is no limit AT ALL to how complex you can go with it.
@@keithdavy7346 How complex do you think an autonomous ROV built for the US navy was back in 2013? More or less complex in its tracking systems than a vtuber model?
@@cedric3973 that's an advanced rig tho there weren't that many requirements for the rig for the range of purpose/usage it had. I don't know how outdated the 2013 era is but to function properly it has to be advanced. Professional vtuber can go for either intermediate or advanced (not very advanced as there'd be little purpose to that).
I learned how to rig in less than a week and the result was mid-okayish... and you are so right, having a proper and professional rig must take months of hard work and pain- 😭💜
Here’s exactly why she told us *Don’t become a Vtuber* :
It’s expensive, like $1,000 or more! The artists spend a LOT of work on Vtuber models!
Yeah, no money nor equipment...yeah my life.
I made my own Vtuber model, and it was very, VERY hard. I spent a week trying to make it just right, and now I never use it because I'm afraid of becoming a Vtuber and then someday ending up like tord(eddsworld) and leaving the community and because Vtuber studio stopped loading🥲
Meanwhile I’ve spent in excess of 3,000 on stupider projects
You don't need a model to start. PNGtubers are valid.
Vroid studio, vseeface, and booth is a bit easier for beginners with barely any money
Instructions unclear, you told me professional tip, I now have glass stuck in my hand and a broken monitor.
How!!?
Who on Earth still uses a CRT monitor?
there is also the option of getting a vtuber model through human sacrifice and necromancy but we dont talk about that
SHHHHHHHHH! Don’t tell them out secret
SILENCE, HERETIC!!
*fires heavy bolter with extreme prejudice *
@@megatron8449 primitive. *Laughs in Tau supremacy*
@@megatron8449 imagine a Warhammer 40k vtuber
I'm interested... Need more infos
I've done both, because I wanted to experience it, the best I could do was getting my simple terribly drawn character to move, open his mouth wide, smile, blink, and look around, it took 3 days of me rigging not knowing what I was doing XD
Basically, respect to the riggers and artists
Edit: Also, I had to redo layers 2-3 times because I didn't know the body parts had to be in seperate layers, it was 1 layer first, then wrong layers after, pain
No one's great at first try, the real insanity is that there are people that like to do that and are willing to dedicate so much time of their lives to practice that they eventually get good at it.
I've tried it out too! The result wasn't too bad but the character I made it from had very simple eyes (lines) and no mouth movement so. I think the strangest part about me is that I enjoyed the process! I want to get better, unfortunately it takes a lot of time but maybe some day I'll do it more...
I've recently heard that having only a little knowledge on a subject can end up being worse than none at all
And that my friend is the Dunning-Kruger effect.
@@101falcon big fan of the dunning-kruger effect its really funny seeing people like that
"A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing"
I think they refer to that as "Knowing just enough to be dangerous."
If they recognize that they know little in the subject, and they strive to know more then it’s fine. But it’s when they start thinking they know more than they do or start assuming without doing proper research, that’s when it becomes dangerous.
My girl you don't know how much I've missed these shorts. The amount of brain rot I've seen is uncanny.
I don't think people realized that having the model and rigging it is just half the battle. Just because you have a good model doesn't mean you're instantly famous, you still need to be a likeable person and have some sort of talent behind that avatar.
Likeable, definitely, talent, yeah no. A person who is consistent will survive than a person who is talented
@Heseth the thing is vtuber streaming is on a hypetrain these days as long as you have a standout model and can somewhat deliver content with a personality that matches it it's smooth sailing compared to trying to grow from scratch as a regular streamer
Yeah i think you're trying to make vtubers seem like more then they actually are. We know the appeal and thats okay XD (Talent not included.) *Joking btw*
Imagine having a likable personality and the energy of 1000 coffee.. and you know someone wo creates models and riggs for money but... you dont know what software is working well and what is just a scam to get money from noobs who want to be vtubers.. what would you do.. you ask a professional.. just to be told you are arrogant to even assume you could understand how complex this is. Because starting with the first obvious question equals believing its easy right? But if you're pissed at people who are where you once stood... you already failed being likable.
@@SidneyPatrickson took a bit of time to understand what you were trying to say (cause 0 commas or anything lol) but I agree!
I love that this actually answers the honest question that at least SOME of those people were asking in the process.
As a person that has worked on several Vtube Projects and working on one currently, I have seen this short about a year ago think" OH, I am NEVER gonna make a model, it looks WAY to complicated." Here I am now, made a model for a dnd project, school, now finally working on my personal Vtube model.
GOD, HELLA RESPECT FOR THE ARTISTS AND RIGGERS!!!
Step one: Thousands of dollars
Step two: sad
step three: avoid skeb
skeb: fivver in a sense but a japanese artist might do you're commission heard some having issues with it and of course prob some scams plus a wonky TOS & policy on payment to no refunds (don't quote me on that)
Another option like some is doing it yourself. If you have the patience to learn it. There's a fairly prominent moth girl who's done so.
Step three: Make PNG doodle
Step four: PNG tube instead
Step five: Realise this is way more convenient since theirs no mic to have to work around in facial tracking software.
Step six: Game
Tbh, im not even buying one! I'm an artist that somehow fails to do digital art, and I'm also broke, so the only solution was to join a few discord servers and find people willing to do an art trade. I understand how long it takes to make these amazing models, so I offered a years worth of artwork for one. I have someone on the job right now:)
I can pay it but I don't have the talent to be a vtuber LMAO
I would have asked that question though, as there could be multiple programs for face tracking and i don't know which one you'd use nor enough about Vtubing to know how to figure it out. Anyway, thank you for answering :)
I might try to make a tiny stickman and rigg it for fun to see just how difficult rigging can be. It seems hellish, those artists are incredible.
The rigger pondering his orb for the 78th time to perfect the rigging process
Yuko rigger: nothing to ponder
Juna rigger: lots to ponder
as a rigger, i ponder many types of orbs while rigging
Consult the Helix Fossil
@@takimi_nada including the many orbs that reside inside the buckshot ammo in my 12 guage shotgun, which is pressed firmly to my temple
your slowly becoming my favorite vtuber I love your annoyed and sarcastic humor
In a related note, I can't imagine the frustration that artists face when randos ask them what app they are using to make art
What are you talking about? I dont understand why People get mad because someone is just asking for the software that you'r using.
This only really happens if your workflow requires a lot of different software for different steps, most of the time we're glad to answer a question that simple
@@dallet6697 It's frustrating because like 100% of the time the people who ask "what app do you use" assume the program is doing a lot of the heavy lifting for them. Like, I use CSP, but I'm capable of creating art in literally any software. I can use MS Paint, it's just a pain in the ass compared to having some layers. You have no idea how many times I've seen people ask about the software I use then get shocked pikachu face/attitude when they realize it doesn't miraculously make art easier. It's frustrating because of the assumption that it's software and not *practice and training* that makes the artwork, lol.
I use IbisPaint, but all it does is make it easier to mess up and erase without erasing paper till it has a hole.
@@vivaldi_is_dreamingWith all due respect I don't understand how you can assume all that from such a seemingly harmless question. I'm an artist and to me it sounds more equivalent to asking which art supplies I use. I genuinely have never met someone who thinks art programs do all the work for them, and if those people actually exist that just makes me wonder what their education was like to make such a braindead assumption.
Yeah, literally had a deep dive trying to understand where the models come from last year. I wish I had this video back then
Step 2 is don’t. I’m sorry but that had me rolling.
The most amount of experience ive had with rigging is in after the flash and even thats terrifying me
As a 3D-Artist, I can confirm that such a model easily needs 4 months to be made.
I imagine it's akin to the car mechanic's nightmare of the 4:45pm customer coming in and getting upset when you can't fit the entire vehicle tune up in their delusional concept that a "full tune up" only takes about 15 minutes...
Because "the guy they normally take it to" has them convinced a "full tune up" is only an oil change.
@@greymane_gaming3435 honestly even an oil change can take an hour, depends on when the last one was done (then again it's kinda therapeutic watching chunks slooowly drip out the drain plug)
As someone who’s spent years learning 3d modeling and animation… thank you, rigging is the bain of my existence
As someone who's made, and rigged 3 different VTuber models in the span of 4 months, I'm glad someone spoke up about how difficult a process this is.
Holy crap
Unsung hero right here. I'm not super familiar with the process of rigging models but 3 models in 4 months sounds *fast* so friendly reminder to not overwork yourself! (Also happy Pride!)
H O W ?
@@SylveonFan4ever Watch the damn short
You're a wizard that's like a model a month :000
Or maybe people have already looked around, seen the different software that can be used, and then thought, "Rin's software works quite well, I wonder what they use?"
Imagine in like 50 years someone is gonna find this, look at the millions of Vtubers that use mix and match, and treasure it like how we treasure old techniques from like 500BC
AI "Make your own Vtuber", rigging included! WOnder how long it will take...
... every time I watch a new clip of this vtuber I'm falling in love more and more :D
I wish more vtubers told off their fans like this 😂
Have to learn sorcery for the rigging process? Seems about right...
How else do you think people are able to make those animations?
Yea rigging is truly ancient dark magic
@@MERP6969 One wrong word and you end up having to deal with a legion of undead ikea sharks.
I just hired someone 🤷♀️
The right answer to that question is "All of them", then refusing to elaborate
Okay but I love how much emphasis you put on the artists and riggers who make vtuber models, cuz I feel like a lot of the time people don't realize how much work is put into that
I feel like my favorite part about the Avatar is how the eyes portray the emotion you're feeling at the moment and I love how the eyes dim with the grimace of the mood and they Brighten as the tone becomes brighter
Rigging isn't the hardest part of our job tbf, it's just painstakingly long as a process, imagine cutting a model just to put little triangles and try to make an image move with very few frames of animation, but still need to make it as smooth as possible, that's basically it
I’ve rigged two models now. It does seem like there should be an easier way available. Like drawing the art directly onto a premade rig to at least handle eyes and head movement. It seems like 80% of the work is reinventing the wheel, except the wheel is blinking animations.
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Oh my gosh the full model of it is so pretty.
She really trynna destroy competition by thwarting its uprising.
Honestly, you have to respect the work behind the Vtuber avatar. I only get these Vtube videos when they appear under the UA-cam shorts like here, but there are some really high-quality avatars in the community.
There is actually a software that lets you create a model that is free to use for stream things just like it is a videogame character creator
Not as beautiful fancy and personalized as full rigged model like yours but when you don't have the resources itd actually a really good solution
Vroid Studio or Reality?
imo vroid models with enough time and effort can look just as good as live 2D, some people even prefer vroid to live 2D. Personally though, I still like 2D models better but I do acknowledge how impressive vroid models can look
@@irlenananYeah they can, but sometimes you have to have some knowledge of how all that stuff works too. It took me ages to figure out some of it and I'm still not perfect at it. It's tough.
@@irlenanan Or you can spend hours learning 3D modeling and rigging to have a 100% custom 3D model instead!
@Ena I've been looking into all the stuff, having some guidance to just play with to try and figure out if it is something to seriously consider or if it is not worth it for me. Test the waters before jumping in with even the financial side.
"Step 2 is don't."
Fucking love the delivery on that
Can listen to rin all day such a soothing voice she's so cut throat it's great.
I knew there was something to that. But now you have me looking at your every movement to see how its all put together.
My compliments to those who made your avatar and the rigging for it. One has to at least give credit where it's due.
Lmao I got this video right after the “yes! You too can become a vtuber!” Short, thank you UA-cam algorithm 🤣
These shorts have been incredibly entertaining AND informative at the same time. Thank you, MY LIEGE.
"Professional" and "Vtuber" shouldn't ever be in the same sentence.
You are contradicting yourself
every one of your real talk shorts is golden
Embarks on a life long journey of learning blender and how to draw to make his own vtuber
Noo, this was me when i saw some animation memes and decided i wanna do that 😭😂
The respect I have for vtubers and the people who make them rises every time I get to laugh at people who have no idea how hard vtubing is.
daaaam, this was more brutal then it had to be, but understandable with this having the context that your apart of an agency, you probably get those questions a lot. still it’s really cool you pointed peeps in the right direction if they want to get started in your business, it’s very cool of you :)
if only making your v-tuber model WAS like a dress-up game 😂
i just realized how detailed the rigging for the hair is (ive watched like 3 tutorials on how to rig and omfg no)
Meanwhile: Fillian uses VR chat and a vive to become a Vtuber
And her model is a free one too
Big brain mode
Also why phone game companies are using her fame to promote their game using the same free model and there is nothing she can do about it.
@@XodabeefIt's not free at all, it's 7000 yen. She even got into a copyright dispute because she completely forgot she's a recolored Rindo and started selling merch without the artist's permission.
I love the wizardry imgery because i've watched a streamer create and rig her own complex model and it was fkn sorcery
I liked Step 2, but I think there’s a secret Step
Step 3: Regret
I think that's the alternative for Step 2
If Step 3 exists for you, skip Step 2. If you're going to regret not doing it, do it. The "don't" is advice for people who thought it was going to be easy to do, with no stress or time investment beyond streaming itself, and maybe an easy revenue stream. If you're committed to it even knowing already how hard it is, you're the kind of person who should do it.
Nop its sleep
this is the 6th time ive seen you in the past 15 minutes please keep going
Steps to making a vtuber if you wanna make it yourself
Get app software that can export .psd
Make sketch of character
Draw character 1 time
Draw character again but separate every piece of clothing and part of said character and things you normally wouldn't be able to see into different layers, yes, sometimes this applies to lineart too sometimes
Shade said parts of the character, also, in different layers depending on the part
Make sure there's no mistakes
Go into live 2d
Suffer through heirarchy, parameters, meshes, and layers and movements not looking right and crying about it for the next week
How to get vtuber model:
Pay a large sum of money to an artist and rigger :)
This is exactly why I've been taking years just off and on designing and redesigning my model. *If* it ever is completed someday, which I hope it will be, it will have been painstakingly patiently handcrafted, something I can be proud of.
For now, I'm just working on my VRChat world to vibe with friends in, got the interior's basics mostly modeled, working on the exterior stuff like the ground now, hah.
Then I'll get back to making custom 3D models, and someday, I'll rig a 2D model possibly ^^'
Whatever the opposite of inspiration is, this is that
The answer? Reversed Inspiration, because I STILL WANNA VTUBE. :)
“Step 2: don’t”
Killing future competitions
The urge to spend hours on making my own just bc you told me not to is astonishing
Finally Penrose appear to my shorts once again:)... Missed you so much
Technically there is a vtuber creation software, it’s just not for Live2D though XD. (Real)
I guess VRoid could count? It is 3D tho
@@froog6957there’s also reality! but it’s also 3d
Tbh I don’t watch any streams. Cuz missing time. But I love your shorts. You are really funny and informative!
Every vtuber model was created by a wizard
Been watching a friend working on their own Vtuber model, including the rigging, and even just watching I can feel their suffering 😭
Wooo, luckily I have experience creating, rigging, and animating 3d models.
Now if only I had an entertaining personality instead of crippling anxiety.
I'm also a 3D artist. In my case the problem would be the program for the tracking.
I don't know what programs there are so my only option that I also know is free would be creating it with any game engine that supports opencv and several hours of debugging, crying and praying so that it finally works.
I’m happy that you think riggers are wizards, that just made my day.
They likely are asking what software you're using for tracking. xD There's well over 20 different versions of software for vtubers to track them, rig them, and even create. So I think the question was more in that direction.
Nah.
If they would've asked that, they could've just googled it.
There are like two softwares people use for the most part for the tracking and one for rigging.
For the tracking everyone has to decide by themselves which they prefer. Just because VTuber x uses software x, doesn't mean that the person who asked should use software x.
I'm pretty sure if they genuinely meant that, they would just ask that.
Like, why be so generic? Why not actually say, "Hey, I was wondering what tracking software do you use?", not just, "What app are you using for your vtuber?". Seriously.
Also Google is a thing
@@CrunchCrunchCrunchyCrunch But it's their choice to use the same software as someone they know has experience in it, people are more likely to trust others they know
@@aprettydumbperson Then they should still specifically ask "What software are you using for tracking?" and not "what software are you using?" since software can mean ANYTHING for vtubers. Software for the drawing, software for the rigging, software for the tracking or, the case which is probably meant when people ask in such generic ways, "Softwares which give you a full rigged model which you can stream with immediately".
@@CrunchCrunchCrunchyCrunch If I asked what software someone's using, it's likely because I like the results and want a similar outcome. If you're a beginner and don't know the good setups, asking around is how you learn. I've had artists or people who want to learn drawing ask me what I use for my art, since they don't know where to start since there's a lot of stuff out there. Sometimes it's easy to get overwhelmed and you just want to see what someone else chooses to use.
Now I just need to start showing up in Rin's live streams to ask this question! :D
Every video is you complaining
It is, that's what i like about it
When Britain first, at heaven's command
Arose from out the azure main
Arose arose from out the azure main
This was the charter, the charter of the land
And guardian angels sang this strain
Rule Britannia, Britannia, rule the waves
Britons never, never, shall be slaves
Rule Britannia, Britannia, rule the waves
Britons never, never, shall be slaves
Still more majestic shalt thou rise
More dreadful from each foreign stroke
More dreadful, dreadful from each foreign stroke
As the loud blast, the blast that tears the skies
Serves but to root thy native oak
Rule Britannia, Britannia, rule the waves
Britons never, never, shall be slaves
Rule Britannia, Britannia, rule the waves
Britons never, never, shall be slaves
Still more majestic shalt thou rise
More dreadful from each foreign stroke
More dreadful, dreadful from each foreign stroke
As the loud blast, the blast that tears the skies
Serves but to root thy native oak
Rule Britannia, Britannia, rule the waves
Britons never, never, shall be slaves
Rule Britannia, Britannia, rule the waves
Britons never, never, shall be slaves
The Muses, still with freedom found
Shall to thy happy coasts repair
Shall to thy happy, happy coasts repair
Blest isle regardless, with countless beauty places
And manly hearts to guard the fair
Rule Britannia, Britannia, rule the waves
Britons never, never, shall be slaves
Rule Britannia, Britannia, rule the waves
Britons never, never, shall be slaves
Pin of shame
and Im learning sht too lmao
and the voice and accent is just perfect for these kinds of videos lmao
As someone who is doing it all on my own, modeling, rigging, blend shapes, all the programs to make them move, face and body tracker, what outfit can I use... And redoing it per model/outfit... I get it.
Oh and I'm a Vtuber on top 😂
This tells me that you care about and appreciate the artists who do this.
Thank you for that.
Instructions unclear. Skipped step 2 and only did step 1 way too late after already did my own (badly) model and rigging
I like how any sort of creator is hell-bent on gate-keeping their profession from others
It's still good thatbthis video adresses the issue as several apps advertise themselves as vtuber makers on like mobiles and shit
You have a character card in Koikatsu and it really helps me makes my stress go away. Thanks for your character creator, your amazing personality and the one who created the Koikatsu card.
Why on earth would you post this
as someone who is learning live2d through many hours of tutorials, i can confirm that that depiction of live2d is absolutely correct
Arigatou gozaimasu. Here's your crown 👑
"Step 2: Don't"
*meanwhile the audience being glad she didn't follow her own wise words*
Do Vtubers get to choose the appearance of their model?
Do you have to come up with a concept that fits you?
How was your experience?
It depends on the company, for Hololive and Nijisanji they have pre-made models that they hire talent to use, but idol and Phase Connect are 2 examples of agencies that let you pick an artist to design your model.
Source: the audition page of the agency websites
“Step 2 is don’t”
That’s not gonna stop me
I’m gonna (try to) do it all myself (and probably fail)
You can still try it out with a cheaper public model like Filian or Neuro started out.
The longer version of Step 2 is "Don't give me competition."
Step 2 is open your wallet like an adult and pay for the multiple custom services you require immediately.
Thats not a rigger thats a wizard
Either
A. She cares about others well-being
B. She doesn't want competition
I love to see someone make it like a character creator dress up game. Think some artists get very close to that which I think it's incredible.
Love the work they done for yours, and pity the empty wallet from all the art and monitors you need to get.
love the vid Rin, but quick question,
what app are you using for your vtuber?
So you want to die then huh 😅
Ah yes, the rigging wizard preforming his dark necromancy to bring the chopped up Vtuber to life
When there's a challenge, there is someone powerful enough to try and overcome it.
Ngl, the wizards went crazy on this model. Speaking of, nice vtuber model!
I have a friend who fully modeled, textured, and tagged her own Vtuber model herself and I have nothing but respect for it.
This video was actually immensely helpful.
I watched a UA-cam video once of someone making and animating a model from scratch and the time it took is a lot longer than one might think and I personally think that the people who make and animate these models really need more credit.
I don't think I'll take step two alternative, ill rig it myself and see how bad my creativity is 😂😂
I've coded some stuff for a rigger, took me 50 hours... There's even more behind the scenes sometimes
ill be having my own vtuber model fully done in about 7 years i belive in it
Becoming a VTuber is either A: get accepted by a company, which is stressful and has it’s drawbacks, or B: go independent. If you chose B you now have two new options to pick from, either A: do everything yourself which is a really really really long process, or B: outsource everything, which is really really really expensive. Becoming a VTuber is really really really hard, so you shouldn’t do it if you’re not really really really serious about it. (Maybe start off as a pngtuber first, or just stream normally without a face cam first if you’re not completely sure?)
There actually are applications similar to video game character creators that let you make VTuber models. VRoid in particular is very good.
Ive always wanted to use a model that i drew myself, in my own "Cartoon meets slightly anime" art style
But, yeah, the rigging part is holding me back because i cannot for the life of me figure out Live2D, let alone care enough to buy the full version
Ill probably just pay someone to rig it for me if i ever want to try V-Tubing
LMAO the way you associate rigging live 2d models with magic is awesome