Maybe learn to work on the car, it could be interesting to folks and much cheaper for you. Changing the throttle body should have taken about 15 minutes and maybe cost 200 bucks
Lexus has/had a customer support campaign for throttle bodies. They’re known to fail. $200 for the throttle body is nonsense, counter price is somewhere around double what he paid. And of course eBay used has the chance of also being bad or failing in the future.
@@danervin2530 then...where would you buy your new throttle body fot the gx? partsgeek is $245 amazon is 406..? Part Number: 220300S021 Supersession(s): 22030-0S021; 2203038041
@@duaneafields I meant nonsense as in “you’re way underestimating parts costs”. I would open a customer support case and try and have it comped at a dealer, or at least ask for assistance, with it being a part that was involved in a customer support program.
You and I both timed buying one of these just in time. Prices have exploded this year on GX460s and 470s. For some reason though, it's even worse on 4Runners, so I bet more and more folks are going to fall in love with the GX platform going forward.
You get a standard v8 and more off-road capability than you’ll ever need in the gx yet as of right now about 50% of used gxs’ are cheaper than 4Runners. The rest being equal. The newer gxs, gls and LCs are the modern suv enthusiasts rig IMO.
I think people just like the body of the 4Runner more and they don’t care about the v8 which is good because Gx’s are about the same price as a 4wd sr5 but with upgraded interior
We own 4 Toyota products. Two GX'S and two third gen 4runners. They have a combined 1,200,000 miles. We abuse our trucks. We change oil every 25,000 miles. Off the top of my head I can tell you we have replaces two radiators. Around 12 coil packs. Two C.V joints. A alternator, plugs and wires. We have never put a timing belt on either 4runner. None of them are sexy. They don't get great mileage and they don't have an abundance of power but they quit.
I had VERY similar experiences to yours. Bought a 2012 SUV in 2020. Wanted something a little newer, however 2012 was the last year of this particular model of SUV. Got it from one state over. It was about an $80 Uber ride just to go pick it up. I too paid for a pre-purchase inspection. As you mentioned, it was well worth it. The vehicle was/is in great shape however, as you pointed out, more likely than not, when someone is planning on getting rid of a vehicle, they tend to stop doing any maintenance in the years or months leading up to it. So, fortunately while I have not had any engine or transmission problems, in the past 18 months, I have replaced the radiator, new shocks & struts all around (TWICE.......but that's another story), a set of tires, a new battery, power steering flush, brake flush, transfer case service, front and rear differential service, and recharging the A/C system. I'm sure I might be missing a thing or two that I've bought. Again, all 'routine maintenance', but it has added up to a very significant amount of money, as I prefer to go to the dealer. I have had absolute HORROR STORIES (over the years) by going to (supposedly) 5-Star (Google) reviewed independent 'mechanics' (places that have been in business for decades). You take the vehicle in for "A", and they fix "A", HOWEVER, along the way, they've broken "B", while fixing "A", that you don't even find out about until months later. Just 'do the work yourself' sounds good, HOWEVER, if you're NOT mechanically inclined (and have never been), do you really want to START, by messing with a highly computerized $15 or $25,000 vehicle? Not to mention, I have no 'place' or space to 'work on a car', I don't know anybody who knows about cars (to help me), and my nightmare is to mess something up, be unable to get it back together, and HAVE to walk into the dealer (and be at their mercy), with a bunch of parts in my hand, saying, "HELP!" LOVE my vehicle, and hopefully, after putting all this money into him, I can get 8 or 10 years of relatively problem free driving life out of him. I think your point is............(and MY advice to anyone looking to buy a used vehicle), unless you plan on doing the work yourself, it would be wise get a pre-purchase inspection done AT THE DEALER and to budget (at least) $2,000 for 'routine maintenance' items over the course of that first year or so. $2,000 is a lot of money (for a 9 to 5 person), but my radiator alone was $550 with parts & labor.
I had that same throttle body issue on my 2000 Land Cruiser. Took the intake pipe off and sprayed some cleaner into the throttle body. Ragged out the carbon build up and that solved the problem.
I get 16.5 to 18.5 MPG here in central Florida depending on how much city only driving is done. Just drove a 1650 mile roundtrip to NC and averaged 17.6 mpg. Average speed on the way home was 72.
That’s pretty close to what new 4Runners get interstate driving. Consistently topped out at 18.5(75-76mph). Because they’re shaped like a brick and really want for a 6th gear at 70+, their mpg does improve a few mpg if you keep them below 70mph.
Taking my '13 to Sequoia National Park, Lake Tahoe, and back down the California coast with other stops along the way on our 2 week road trip in late July. Can't wait! Love this rig!!
I have a 2017 premium with 60,000 miles (bought new) and zero issues, mechanically speaking. There are a few areas I dislike. The cabin seems a bit noisy if you press in on some of the plastics or while going over bumps. They creak and make a cracking sound, so to speak. Lexus has mostly fixed the issue (under warranty) by disassembling certain parts of the trim and adding felt or quiet tape. I only take it to Lexus for service. It’s pricey but I feel it’s worth it. Having a well tracked maintenance service record by the dealer will add value, should I ever sell it. Good video and looking forward to more.
Excellent vid. Very entertaining as usual. Love love my Gx. To me there's Nothing better. Get 21 highway. Around town...not sure. Really don't care. This thing is so good. Even have had people stop at traffic lights and ask me about it.
You're a crack up... Thanks for the laughs. I'm on my second GX build - sold the first one just to do it all over again. I want to sell the second but can't find a third for a reasonable price anymore! The secret's out mate.
We are on our second one, yeah I hear it all of the time about the fuel economy but you buy it for a reason. Both of ours have been bullet proof, no issues ever with these.
15 MPG, yes, stock. Around town (fairly flat land) we are getting 16-17mpg Interstate runs 21 mpg. But, its a stock GX460 without air suspension, and any aftermarket addons.
We just finished a 2k mile roadtrip. Lots of national parks so idling and stop and go between long freeway runs. We got 16mpg with the roof rack on (just awnings mounted). I did 75-85 a lot as we were in western states with high speed limits.
My 9 month cost of ownership has been under $100 for a 2012 model: Oil filter and change, air filter change, and inside air filter change. I keep it stock, it's more than adequate for my basic outdoor offroad camping use and normal family road trips. However, don't ask me about my monthly gas expense. ;) Love this vehicle. Like a crossfit athlete with a bowtie.
Thanks! We go a bit deeper than the local state park but it doesn't matter. I'm just trying to have a little family adventure and keep the kids happy-ish in the process : )
A single tear was shed hearing he paid the same price I did for my 470 w/ +80k miles. Granted service history was immaculate and they did intake manifold gaskets, timing belt and water pump.. tough pill to swallow however still happy knowing I have such a great platform
I've owned both a 460 and 470. There are significant advantages to the 470 which I believe are reflected in the less than expected price discrepancies.
cleaning the throttle body likely for the first time in 150k miles actually broke it. The bushings were shot from working against the build up and when they remover all that , the valve wouldn’t stay put. Maybe they tweaked it during the cleaning but I wasn’t going to split hairs at that point. Just wanted the truck running.
i have a 2006 GX470 with 231,000. paid $13,777 2 years ago. then $3800 on mini engine overhaul , $1500 on Suspension, $800 on all fluids and brakes (rotors, calibers/pads) & Iridium plugs. love it. 400 pounds lighter than a GX460. Fast 7.2 sec to 60 fabulous 240 watt Mark Levinson. i drive 550/ mo so 16.6 mpg on 91 Octane is fine by me.
Hey, odd question, but I'm in Northern CO and am looking to get a gx. I am curious if you drive yours on 287, or east on I 70, and how does the ride feel on the concrete highways with expansion joints? My f150 feels like I'm going to bounce off the road and hoping the lexus might have a smoother ride
I got a Gx470 10 months ago, $13k. So far, Eibach suspension kit, wheels and 285/70-17 tires. Unexpected maintenance: Fuel cap and battery. Scheduled maintenance: DIY Aisin timing belt kit. I really like this car
@@ramccall runs good and strong. I get some code every now and then about 4L switch or something and I may need rear brakes done soon. I had to replace the alternator about three months ago.
@@percyjackson2800 Awesome to hear and glad you're enjoying it. I've been thinking about getting one. There's a 2014 one for sale at my local Lexus dealer for $26k with 107k miles. Do you think that's a good deal?
Picked up our (wife's) '11 GX 460 Premium in January '20....from Car Maxx/Las Vegas store...w/95K miles...now has 128K miles...Money pit.....IM front steel bumper...Five Fuel wheels & new tires...IM 2" Nitro lift kit....but she luv's it ! Fuel mileage....no level roads in my part of Utah...I've seen 21 mpg....normal is 17-18 all day long....Running mid range fuel..87-88 octane...I'm a firm believer in Seafoam or Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel system...some call it snake oil....Oh my other ride is an '03 LX......(:
Very Interesting...... my 2004 GX470 may be VERY different from your 2010 GX460.. My GX470 is AMAZING and rides MUCH better and quiet than my 2019 Tesla Model X. With 150,000 miles on my GX470, I have changed many sets of tires, battery, CV joints and a radiator. That's is all... LOVE LOVE LOVE my GX470 and I get average 18 MPG..... I feel very lucky watching your video ...
Just came across your channel! Tulsa local myself! Been looking at the 470/460 to replace my 02 sierra. Thanks for the videos and info!! Love the video styles
Nice! Perfect review for someone who isn't loaded and looking to get into one of these. Even with gas as it is Im picking one up this Fall in the same mileage and year range. Definitely subbed.
Mine is mostly because I never leave the neighborhood unless I have a shoot (2-3 times a month) or hit the trail. I'd probably get a bit closer to you, but yeah AT tires and a roof rack definitely don't help. I wonder what's going to happen when I lift it (soon)...
Good looking GX you have put together 👍🏼 Thanks for all the helpful information ! I myself have a high mileage 2017 GX Premium I bought with 109,000 miles one owner . I will also have Lexus do the 120,000 mile maintenance package it’s around $1,100. I’ll have them do it that way they can give it the once over & I’ll be back to good . I’ll do the little things after that. Thanks again and see you down the road !
Throttle body is an easy job to do in your driveway. I just bought a GX with 160k on the odometer, taking her to the local Lexus dealership soon for inspection.
@@v1rotate391 a dealer by me had a 2013 Base with 40k miles (mint) going for $29k - early 2020. I called to set an appointment that same day. When I got to the dealer it was already being viewed for purchase. I haven’t bothered entertaining these price increases since. Would rather purchase new assuming no eye gouging.
We got a 2011 with 123k miles for $18.5 a year ago. Scored a front set of Dobinsons 2" complete struts for $400 and $2.64 for the rear lift using washers on the air bag sensors. Have wheeled it hard a few times and never had to lock the center diff because ATRAC is amazing. Can confirm 11-12mpg with 33.5" Kenda Klever RTs ($800 for 5 of them). 4.56 gears would help a lot but I'm too cheap for that. Got a JW Roof rack ($787) to carry our giant Tuff Stuff Alpha tent as well as their rear tire carrier ($1,061). No maintenance issues so far 10k miles later. Taking it to Colorado for Christmas with the wife. We love it so much we got her an 04 GX470 as well. There is a ton of value if you don't use it on massive commutes. Be careful the GX bug is infectious. My dad has had a GX470 and has a GX460 now. My coworker also picked up a 2006 GX470. Thay are amazing cars especially if you have kids and love adventure.
This video is almost 2 years old and all that service will be due again in about a year. But nothing breaks. Nothing ever breaks on this thing. Ive got 170k now. Zero repairs since the throttle body I talked about in the video.
Nice video. I have the same vehicle; same year. My biggest complaint is a rough ride over anything other than a glass smooth highway. Engine is low on torque too, so the trans shifts a lot at highway speeds. I am getting better gas mileage than you, though. I am 80% commuter and get 17-19 mpg at 70-mph. Drops quickly in town driving to 13. No major problems so far at 125,000 miles. Did have to change a leaky radiator, one side mirror, and a front wheel hub bearing. Otherwise no issues.
My GX gets 15 MPG pretty much every tank since switching to larger tires and moving to the city. I dont have a roof rack though which could be a significant drain on aero and thus fuel eco.
@@swishswoosh6556 lol yeah, ok. 25 mpg highway on a 5 degree decline with a tailwind at 60mph. in the REAL World, you'll be lucky to get 21-22mpg highway, and that's if you're driving in the right lane with grandma passing you on the left.
Mpg estimates are for stock tires and stock weight. What do you expect? Also it depends on what you do with it. Offroading, overlanding, yields lower mpgs. Not gonna help your 15 mpg factory rating
It’s cheap too, you can do your whole truck for probably less than $200. I did my doors for like $30 (bought $56 of material and have a bunch left over to do other parts)
I have a 2016 GX and consistently get 21mpg on road trips going 75mph-85mph in mild elevation. You're getting 11mpg because you went with BFG KO2s, while great performers they are HEAVY and will utterly destroy your efficiency.
I have a 460. I use regular gas - probably fine, since it's the same engine (and probably same tuning, based on identical performance numbers) as in some models of the sequoia and tundra, which are regular gas vehicles. No engine knocking from what I could detect.
I gave that a try when I first got mine. It resulted in a 10-15% reduction in gas mileage for me which is what a lot of people report. That negates the savings for me not to mention the extra carbon build up. They are tuned slightly different, the ECU just retunes it to retard detonation when it detects knocks or pings I believe. Lots of people go your route though. It’s a parenial debate on iH8mud.com Good wrte up on it specific to Lexus models here - fourwheeltrends.com/what-happens-if-i-dont-use-premium-gas-in-my-lexus/
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods I've read incessantly on this. Agree with you - there's a split of opinion on this matter. I'm by no means an engineer, but am technically minded and now find myself in the nether of the KCLV rabbit hole. There is definitely a power deficit to using lower octanes, primarily due to the ignition timing change, like you said. Whether that amounts to a corresponding reduction in gas milage...I don't know? Hope you enjoy this stuff. blog.rr-racing.com/news/2017/01/24/improving-knock-learning-and-power-on-lexus-ecus/ www.fjcruiserforums.com/threads/toyota-specific-pids.739248/
@@TopgearFTW I just spoke with a dealer here in ABQ about the gas octane issue. I'm in line for a 2022/23 model and wanted to know. They said there is no need for premium gas from the 2019 and newer models. More specifically, for around town driving, using regular is just fine. I'm not sure what changed, but I guess they figured it out. For those with older models, it is still recommended to use premium fuel, only, for all driving (hwy/city).
Wow I'm getting 15 and on road trips getting 17.5 with a cargo box and AT tiers.....Flat lander and closer to sea level though. Good stuff ! Stop being a sucker for Toyota mat dept though :) "Hey we need to do this fuel thing that is going to cause your throttle body issue later" Toyota's fix themselves.....er at least that's what I tell myself :)
I did a pretty extensive roof rack video on how I load the platform, and talked about how I mounted it then. I didn’t go into detail because I got lucky and got my mounts from a friend who had a connection in Yakima. Mine are from Yakima Australia so unfortunately you can’t get them here. They do have a solution for the GX now though which is very similar.
Thank you so much for making great content, although we missed the haunted ghost town video... That being said, how in the eff is your fuel mileage so bad? We average 16 city / 21-22 HWY @ 75mph on the east cost.
I rarely leave the neighborhood. My kids schools are close, my wife works less than a mile away and I work from home. Plus, its hot as shirt here so I idle a LOT more than normal.
Tires are another culprit. The stock tires and wheels have much lower rolling resistance than ATs and weigh about 20lbs less (unsprung rotating weight) per corner.
Bought a 2014 with 123k miles … came to pick it up and the radio stopped working… they said it was updating but never came on… so i took it back smh. It also had a weird transmission jitter.. i’ll be back with a GX with much lower miles or maybe the 22’
First time watching your show and loved it. I have a 06 gx470 for the even more poor man land cruiser with only 101k on it. Live in the snobsdalle area and would really like to hit the trail with you. Not really sure how to make contact with you because I'm really old and not to good with technology. Maybe you can send me some message and I'll try to remember to watch for it. Keep up the great videos. James
Thanks! I've had a good experience from Tri-city transmission in Tempe and Brakes Plus in Gilbert. BP is hit and miss by location but the guys at the Warner shop are all 4x4 guys. That's where I take it for fluids, etc. I used to take it to Chandler Toyota but they didn't exactly nail it on my throttle body so...
Honest feedback, but the complacent lack of car knowledge on a channel that mentions over landing as one of its primary points of focus is pretty off-putting.
I’ve owned 2 GX, 3 4Runners, and a Taco. I think the only thing I’ve ever had to go to the dealer for other than maintenance was a throttle body issue with my Tacoma.
@@danielrosales5968 That’s over several decades. Several high mileage I’m sure. My current GX has 40K on it and I could drive it to 200K without seeing a CEL.
Dude you bought a sight unseen 10 year old truck with 151k try that with a ford ! You really have no complaints, why pay to put it plugs and definitely don’t pay to flush coolant that’s even easier. Sorry dude it’s a good video ( quality, sound and pics) but I’m getting tired of people calling it a poor mans whatever, it’s a $60k truck new , I would guess you my friend have never been poor , I have. But now I’m loving my gx 👍🏼 , good luck
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods I said “poor man’s whatever” as in people are calling it their poor man’s Overlander or their poor man’s off roader etc. “landcruiser “ in your case . Sorry I didn’t painfully break it down to begin with.
Everyone always mentions fuel mileage on these, but never mentions how expensive the GX, or any Lexus for that matter, is to insure. A 10yr old GX is more expensive to insure than a brand new 4runner(by a bit, but still).
I average 15.3 but there are lots of hills where I live. Road trip from San Francisco to Los Ángeles i just averaged 20.1 mph cruise control at 75 (very windy too).
I have a 14 LX570, visited some buddys in the SF Bay Area, and on my way back to LA, i got 21 MPG setting the radar cruise to 85 with AC on. I thought the dash computer was breaking my balls, but when i stopped at the pump in Lost Hills, i was pleasantly surprised to find that it was indeed getting 21 MPG. Even after i passed the grapevine, my average was 19 MPG which is still 2 better than EPA
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods I REALLY like what you did! I've looked at both and it's just me now empty nesting so it's hard to drop $70k on a new one and I don't think I want the redesigned 2023 4R that will be built in San Antonio until the kinks are worked out. Maybe a project is in order haha
With bigger tires, rims and all the weight of roof rack added, expect to get less than the rated mpg. My 2011 gx460 can get 26mpg on highway driving at 60mph.
Proud New owner of a 2013 GX460, great video +1 sub for you! Could you put a link to some of the forums I want to join some but have no clue where to find them
Carbon Build-up? I thought Toyota GX or Landcruiser is Very Reliable and since it is Port Injection, carbon build up is not on its vocabulary. Now I'm having second thoughts in buying a Toyota GX!!!
You paid to have it inspected by a Lexus dealer and they didn’t tell you all of those services were needed? If they did why didn’t the selling dealership take care of those services or adjust the price accordingly?
Maybe learn to work on the car, it could be interesting to folks and much cheaper for you. Changing the throttle body should have taken about 15 minutes and maybe cost 200 bucks
Having someone else touch my vehicle for these type of maintenance items sends chills up my spine.
agree
Lexus has/had a customer support campaign for throttle bodies. They’re known to fail. $200 for the throttle body is nonsense, counter price is somewhere around double what he paid. And of course eBay used has the chance of also being bad or failing in the future.
@@danervin2530 then...where would you buy your new throttle body fot the gx? partsgeek is $245 amazon is 406..?
Part Number: 220300S021
Supersession(s): 22030-0S021; 2203038041
@@duaneafields I meant nonsense as in “you’re way underestimating parts costs”. I would open a customer support case and try and have it comped at a dealer, or at least ask for assistance, with it being a part that was involved in a customer support program.
You and I both timed buying one of these just in time. Prices have exploded this year on GX460s and 470s. For some reason though, it's even worse on 4Runners, so I bet more and more folks are going to fall in love with the GX platform going forward.
You get a standard v8 and more off-road capability than you’ll ever need in the gx yet as of right now about 50% of used gxs’ are cheaper than 4Runners. The rest being equal. The newer gxs, gls and LCs are the modern suv enthusiasts rig IMO.
Great. That'll make em even more expensive
I think people just like the body of the 4Runner more and they don’t care about the v8 which is good because Gx’s are about the same price as a 4wd sr5 but with upgraded interior
We own 4 Toyota products. Two GX'S and two third gen 4runners. They have a combined 1,200,000 miles. We abuse our trucks. We change oil every 25,000 miles. Off the top of my head I can tell you we have replaces two radiators. Around 12 coil packs. Two C.V joints. A alternator, plugs and wires. We have never put a timing belt on either 4runner. None of them are sexy. They don't get great mileage and they don't have an abundance of power but they quit.
prices exploaded everywhere here in ga/fl.. thanks brandon
I had VERY similar experiences to yours.
Bought a 2012 SUV in 2020. Wanted something a little newer, however 2012 was the last year of this particular model of SUV. Got it from one state over. It was about an $80 Uber ride just to go pick it up. I too paid for a pre-purchase inspection. As you mentioned, it was well worth it. The vehicle was/is in great shape however, as you pointed out, more likely than not, when someone is planning on getting rid of a vehicle, they tend to stop doing any maintenance in the years or months leading up to it. So, fortunately while I have not had any engine or transmission problems, in the past 18 months, I have replaced the radiator, new shocks & struts all around (TWICE.......but that's another story), a set of tires, a new battery, power steering flush, brake flush, transfer case service, front and rear differential service, and recharging the A/C system. I'm sure I might be missing a thing or two that I've bought. Again, all 'routine maintenance', but it has added up to a very significant amount of money, as I prefer to go to the dealer. I have had absolute HORROR STORIES (over the years) by going to (supposedly) 5-Star (Google) reviewed independent 'mechanics' (places that have been in business for decades). You take the vehicle in for "A", and they fix "A", HOWEVER, along the way, they've broken "B", while fixing "A", that you don't even find out about until months later.
Just 'do the work yourself' sounds good, HOWEVER, if you're NOT mechanically inclined (and have never been), do you really want to START, by messing with a highly computerized $15 or $25,000 vehicle? Not to mention, I have no 'place' or space to 'work on a car', I don't know anybody who knows about cars (to help me), and my nightmare is to mess something up, be unable to get it back together, and HAVE to walk into the dealer (and be at their mercy), with a bunch of parts in my hand, saying, "HELP!"
LOVE my vehicle, and hopefully, after putting all this money into him, I can get 8 or 10 years of relatively problem free driving life out of him.
I think your point is............(and MY advice to anyone looking to buy a used vehicle), unless you plan on doing the work yourself, it would be wise get a pre-purchase inspection done AT THE DEALER and to budget (at least) $2,000 for 'routine maintenance' items over the course of that first year or so. $2,000 is a lot of money (for a 9 to 5 person), but my radiator alone was $550 with parts & labor.
How many miles you have on it
I own a 2018 GX and I’m getting 17MPG mixed driving. Great video
I had that same throttle body issue on my 2000 Land Cruiser. Took the intake pipe off and sprayed some cleaner into the throttle body. Ragged out the carbon build up and that solved the problem.
Bought mine this year from a Lexus dealer and it was the best part, I have had zero issues just good times
Any regrets? Thinking about getting one. The only thing that scares me is the gas mileage 😂
@@Skippingdude Best truck I have ever owned, tons of road trips no regrets lol will trade in for a newer one likely
You got a steal compared to today’s prices!
I get 16.5 to 18.5 MPG here in central Florida depending on how much city only driving is done. Just drove a 1650 mile roundtrip to NC and averaged 17.6 mpg. Average speed on the way home was 72.
Cool thanks for the detail info I got a 2021 and I’m about to do that drive from NC to Florida and was wondering about it. Thanks. !!! ;-)
That’s pretty close to what new 4Runners get interstate driving. Consistently topped out at 18.5(75-76mph). Because they’re shaped like a brick and really want for a 6th gear at 70+, their mpg does improve a few mpg if you keep them below 70mph.
Taking my '13 to Sequoia National Park, Lake Tahoe, and back down the California coast with other stops along the way on our 2 week road trip in late July. Can't wait! Love this rig!!
Love Sequoia! I grew up not to far from there. Enjoy!
I have a 2017 premium with 60,000 miles (bought new) and zero issues, mechanically speaking. There are a few areas I dislike. The cabin seems a bit noisy if you press in on some of the plastics or while going over bumps. They creak and make a cracking sound, so to speak. Lexus has mostly fixed the issue (under warranty) by disassembling certain parts of the trim and adding felt or quiet tape. I only take it to Lexus for service. It’s pricey but I feel it’s worth it. Having a well tracked maintenance service record by the dealer will add value, should I ever sell it. Good video and looking forward to more.
A service record doesn’t add value lol
@@derrickp it will maintain value
Excellent vid. Very entertaining as usual. Love love my Gx. To me there's Nothing better. Get 21 highway. Around town...not sure. Really don't care. This thing is so good. Even have had people stop at traffic lights and ask me about it.
My wife's 4Runner has over 300K on the clock... Runs like new. And nothing breaks...
What year?
@@adampetros5878 2003 (4.7L V8)
You're a crack up... Thanks for the laughs. I'm on my second GX build - sold the first one just to do it all over again. I want to sell the second but can't find a third for a reasonable price anymore! The secret's out mate.
We are on our second one, yeah I hear it all of the time about the fuel economy but you buy it for a reason. Both of ours have been bullet proof, no issues ever with these.
Do the captain chairs in 2nd row fold down?
@@victoriachanel2493 we didn’t get them but yes they do. We wanted three seats on the second row
@@artgressick thanks for responding!
15 MPG, yes, stock. Around town (fairly flat land) we are getting 16-17mpg Interstate runs 21 mpg. But, its a stock GX460 without air suspension, and any aftermarket addons.
We just finished a 2k mile roadtrip. Lots of national parks so idling and stop and go between long freeway runs. We got 16mpg with the roof rack on (just awnings mounted). I did 75-85 a lot as we were in western states with high speed limits.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoodsyou can still go 60-65 they won’t ticket you I promise
Got mine for 28k with 87k miles on it. It's a 2016 premium. I love it so far. Like you, my only problem with it is the horrible fuel economy, lol!
Amazing deal, I’m looking at a similar deal but with a 2014 luxury. 80k miles for 28k maybe could bargain it down
My 9 month cost of ownership has been under $100 for a 2012 model: Oil filter and change, air filter change, and inside air filter change. I keep it stock, it's more than adequate for my basic outdoor offroad camping use and normal family road trips. However, don't ask me about my monthly gas expense. ;) Love this vehicle. Like a crossfit athlete with a bowtie.
I hear CrossFit athletes require a lot of meals as well :-) Nice analogy.
I’ve changed the plugs in my GX. Believe me, 379 bucks is a good deal…
I like how honest you are about your overlanding experience, I would probably use mine the same way
Thanks! We go a bit deeper than the local state park but it doesn't matter. I'm just trying to have a little family adventure and keep the kids happy-ish in the process : )
A single tear was shed hearing he paid the same price I did for my 470 w/ +80k miles. Granted service history was immaculate and they did intake manifold gaskets, timing belt and water pump.. tough pill to swallow however still happy knowing I have such a great platform
The irony is that yours was still a good value.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods indeed, it was priced +$47k new for a reason. At least that’s the justification I tell myself.
I've owned both a 460 and 470. There are significant advantages to the 470 which I believe are reflected in the less than expected price discrepancies.
3:30 Throttle body cleanings do wonders. Made my Tundra run so much smoother after cleaning. You can't even feel any engine vibrations
cleaning the throttle body likely for the first time in 150k miles actually broke it. The bushings were shot from working against the build up and when they remover all that , the valve wouldn’t stay put. Maybe they tweaked it during the cleaning but I wasn’t going to split hairs at that point. Just wanted the truck running.
Does using premium fuel insread of regular prevent this?
@@estebanremici8300 no
i have a 2006 GX470 with 231,000. paid $13,777 2 years ago. then $3800 on mini engine overhaul , $1500 on Suspension, $800 on all fluids and brakes (rotors, calibers/pads) &
Iridium plugs. love it. 400 pounds lighter than a GX460. Fast 7.2 sec to 60
fabulous 240 watt Mark Levinson. i drive 550/ mo
so 16.6 mpg on 91 Octane is fine by me.
Keep up the good work! Love the humor. If you’re in Northern Colorado look lets go GXing.
Hey, odd question, but I'm in Northern CO and am looking to get a gx. I am curious if you drive yours on 287, or east on I 70, and how does the ride feel on the concrete highways with expansion joints? My f150 feels like I'm going to bounce off the road and hoping the lexus might have a smoother ride
I got a Gx470 10 months ago, $13k. So far, Eibach suspension kit, wheels and 285/70-17 tires. Unexpected maintenance: Fuel cap and battery.
Scheduled maintenance: DIY Aisin timing belt kit.
I really like this car
how many miles? Is it pretty reliable?
@@ramccall 157k when I got it. Belt looked pretty good but there was no record of it being serviced so I went ahead and did it for peace of mind.
@@percyjackson2800 Nice! How's it running now? Any other maintenance issues?
@@ramccall runs good and strong. I get some code every now and then about 4L switch or something and I may need rear brakes done soon. I had to replace the alternator about three months ago.
@@percyjackson2800 Awesome to hear and glad you're enjoying it. I've been thinking about getting one. There's a 2014 one for sale at my local Lexus dealer for $26k with 107k miles. Do you think that's a good deal?
You should have more subs, just listening to you makes my day!
And that's why I do it! Thank you.
Picked up our (wife's) '11 GX 460 Premium in January '20....from Car Maxx/Las Vegas store...w/95K miles...now has 128K miles...Money pit.....IM front steel bumper...Five Fuel wheels & new tires...IM 2" Nitro lift kit....but she luv's it ! Fuel mileage....no level roads in my part of Utah...I've seen 21 mpg....normal is 17-18 all day long....Running mid range fuel..87-88 octane...I'm a firm believer in Seafoam or Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel system...some call it snake oil....Oh my other ride is an '03 LX......(:
870 bucks for shipping isn't bad. I have heard of some people spending double that to ship a car not very far recently
Your videos are informative. Don’t force humor by making fun of yourself at every turn
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Very Interesting...... my 2004 GX470 may be VERY different from your 2010 GX460.. My GX470 is AMAZING and rides MUCH better and quiet than my 2019 Tesla Model X. With 150,000 miles on my GX470, I have changed many sets of tires, battery, CV joints and a radiator. That's is all... LOVE LOVE LOVE my GX470 and I get average 18 MPG..... I feel very lucky watching your video ...
forgot to include regular change of Mobile 1 oil every 5-7,000 miles....
Is it possible you have oversized all terrains and a roof rack on your model x? ; )
Just came across your channel! Tulsa local myself!
Been looking at the 470/460 to replace my 02 sierra. Thanks for the videos and info!! Love the video styles
Can't wait for the next video..:) Please keep on create new contents and make my day..:)
Should be much more regular now. We got tied up with end of the year family stuff and upgrading a bunch of gear that we'll have new videos on soon.
Got one
Amazing old school light truck
Except tank size
Nice! Perfect review for someone who isn't loaded and looking to get into one of these. Even with gas as it is Im picking one up this Fall in the same mileage and year range. Definitely subbed.
I know I drive like a grandpa but I'm getting 17ish mpg with my 2018, and 21 on the highway. Not on AT tires, that probably helps. Also sea level.
Mine is mostly because I never leave the neighborhood unless I have a shoot (2-3 times a month) or hit the trail. I'd probably get a bit closer to you, but yeah AT tires and a roof rack definitely don't help. I wonder what's going to happen when I lift it (soon)...
Good looking GX you have put together 👍🏼 Thanks for all the helpful information ! I myself have a high mileage 2017 GX Premium I bought with 109,000 miles one owner . I will also have Lexus do the 120,000 mile maintenance package it’s around $1,100. I’ll have them do it that way they can give it the once over & I’ll be back to good . I’ll do the little things after that. Thanks again and see you down the road !
i'm entertained.. therefore i happily subscribed😂
Throttle body is an easy job to do in your driveway. I just bought a GX with 160k on the odometer, taking her to the local Lexus dealership soon for inspection.
Thats what I was told but I tend to make the simplest of tasks into epic ordeals so we played it safe. Congrats on the new ride!
it could've been cleaned with some cleaner, no need to get a new one, they never go bad they sold him a whole part due to gunk..
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing all the info & for the entertaining way you delivered it.
Wow. You got a GREAT deal on this. The same car today with 150k miles is $27-$34k NOT including tax/fees
Yea 🥲
That's a fact.
Mine has 89,900 miles 2014 GX Premium I’d let it go for $33k
@@v1rotate391 a dealer by me had a 2013 Base with 40k miles (mint) going for $29k - early 2020. I called to set an appointment that same day. When I got to the dealer it was already being viewed for purchase.
I haven’t bothered entertaining these price increases since. Would rather purchase new assuming no eye gouging.
We got a 2011 with 123k miles for $18.5 a year ago. Scored a front set of Dobinsons 2" complete struts for $400 and $2.64 for the rear lift using washers on the air bag sensors.
Have wheeled it hard a few times and never had to lock the center diff because ATRAC is amazing.
Can confirm 11-12mpg with 33.5" Kenda Klever RTs ($800 for 5 of them). 4.56 gears would help a lot but I'm too cheap for that.
Got a JW Roof rack ($787) to carry our giant Tuff Stuff Alpha tent as well as their rear tire carrier ($1,061).
No maintenance issues so far 10k miles later.
Taking it to Colorado for Christmas with the wife.
We love it so much we got her an 04 GX470 as well.
There is a ton of value if you don't use it on massive commutes.
Be careful the GX bug is infectious.
My dad has had a GX470 and has a GX460 now.
My coworker also picked up a 2006 GX470.
Thay are amazing cars especially if you have kids and love adventure.
Your MPG is negatively effected by those knobby tires and that roof tack. FYI. Nice rig too
“What’s a throttle body” 😂 I’m lost for words
We need more videos like this to scare people away. I mean they’re so expensive to maintain😊
This video is almost 2 years old and all that service will be due again in about a year. But nothing breaks. Nothing ever breaks on this thing. Ive got 170k now. Zero repairs since the throttle body I talked about in the video.
"Ransom money" is flawlessly accurate. Some expensive "processing".. 😂
Nice video. I have the same vehicle; same year. My biggest complaint is a rough ride over anything other than a glass smooth highway. Engine is low on torque too, so the trans shifts a lot at highway speeds. I am getting better gas mileage than you, though. I am 80% commuter and get 17-19 mpg at 70-mph. Drops quickly in town driving to 13. No major problems so far at 125,000 miles. Did have to change a leaky radiator, one side mirror, and a front wheel hub bearing. Otherwise no issues.
I hear an upgraded valve body on the tranny increases MPG, but not sure it's worth it at $1500 just for the parts.
My GX gets 15 MPG pretty much every tank since switching to larger tires and moving to the city. I dont have a roof rack though which could be a significant drain on aero and thus fuel eco.
If your driving it correctly, it can get up to 25 mpg on highway
@@swishswoosh6556 lol yeah, ok. 25 mpg highway on a 5 degree decline with a tailwind at 60mph. in the REAL World, you'll be lucky to get 21-22mpg highway, and that's if you're driving in the right lane with grandma passing you on the left.
I get 17.6 mpg on mixed driving (35% city/65% hwy) on premium fuel. I get 18.5-19 mpg on hwy only driving.
My 2008 GX 470 is still going strong after 300,000 miles.
You never had a major problems with like engine or transmission?
@@waals2663 It's not a Ford, why would he..?!
Yr vid was delightful and hilarious! Thx for posting and great sunglasses! ;)
Mpg estimates are for stock tires and stock weight. What do you expect? Also it depends on what you do with it. Offroading, overlanding, yields lower mpgs. Not gonna help your 15 mpg factory rating
If you want a good laborious project, add sound deadening
It’s cheap too, you can do your whole truck for probably less than $200. I did my doors for like $30 (bought $56 of material and have a bunch left over to do other parts)
I have a 2016 GX and consistently get 21mpg on road trips going 75mph-85mph in mild elevation. You're getting 11mpg because you went with BFG KO2s, while great performers they are HEAVY and will utterly destroy your efficiency.
I have a 460. I use regular gas - probably fine, since it's the same engine (and probably same tuning, based on identical performance numbers) as in some models of the sequoia and tundra, which are regular gas vehicles. No engine knocking from what I could detect.
I gave that a try when I first got mine. It resulted in a 10-15% reduction in gas mileage for me which is what a lot of people report. That negates the savings for me not to mention the extra carbon build up. They are tuned slightly different, the ECU just retunes it to retard detonation when it detects knocks or pings I believe. Lots of people go your route though. It’s a parenial debate on iH8mud.com Good wrte up on it specific to Lexus models here - fourwheeltrends.com/what-happens-if-i-dont-use-premium-gas-in-my-lexus/
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods I've read incessantly on this. Agree with you - there's a split of opinion on this matter. I'm by no means an engineer, but am technically minded and now find myself in the nether of the KCLV rabbit hole. There is definitely a power deficit to using lower octanes, primarily due to the ignition timing change, like you said. Whether that amounts to a corresponding reduction in gas milage...I don't know? Hope you enjoy this stuff. blog.rr-racing.com/news/2017/01/24/improving-knock-learning-and-power-on-lexus-ecus/ www.fjcruiserforums.com/threads/toyota-specific-pids.739248/
Enjoy it? I obsess over it : ) I’ll take a look at the links when I have a few. Thanks!
@@TopgearFTW I just spoke with a dealer here in ABQ about the gas octane issue. I'm in line for a 2022/23 model and wanted to know. They said there is no need for premium gas from the 2019 and newer models. More specifically, for around town driving, using regular is just fine. I'm not sure what changed, but I guess they figured it out. For those with older models, it is still recommended to use premium fuel, only, for all driving (hwy/city).
@@phonemeunit1973 nothing has changed. People have been running 87 in their GX forever
Wow I'm getting 15 and on road trips getting 17.5 with a cargo box and AT tiers.....Flat lander and closer to sea level though. Good stuff ! Stop being a sucker for Toyota mat dept though :) "Hey we need to do this fuel thing that is going to cause your throttle body issue later" Toyota's fix themselves.....er at least that's what I tell myself :)
Would love a video on how you mounted the full size yakima rack
I did a pretty extensive roof rack video on how I load the platform, and talked about how I mounted it then. I didn’t go into detail because I got lucky and got my mounts from a friend who had a connection in Yakima. Mine are from Yakima Australia so unfortunately you can’t get them here. They do have a solution for the GX now though which is very similar.
Great summary!
Thank you so much for making great content, although we missed the haunted ghost town video... That being said, how in the eff is your fuel mileage so bad? We average 16 city / 21-22 HWY @ 75mph on the east cost.
I rarely leave the neighborhood. My kids schools are close, my wife works less than a mile away and I work from home. Plus, its hot as shirt here so I idle a LOT more than normal.
Tires are another culprit. The stock tires and wheels have much lower rolling resistance than ATs and weigh about 20lbs less (unsprung rotating weight) per corner.
Very honest and informative as always. Awesome!
Loved your video. Btw you should start auditioning or play cosplay you look like Robert Englund maybe be the next Freddy
Did the door handles come black or did you put aftermarket covers over them? GREAT looking gx!
I used vinyl. It’s held up really well compared to all the plastic dip.
Prices will come down likely as a lot of dealers will have a hard time selling as people run out of money to spend.
I got my 2016 last year for 28k from a lexus dealer. It only had 87k on it. Horrible on gas but great offroad and very luxurious on road.
Did you ever have the valley cover leak checked by them before buying?
@@estebanremici8300 nope. Didn't know it was a thing until it happened.
Bought a 2014 with 123k miles … came to pick it up and the radio stopped working… they said it was updating but never came on… so i took it back smh. It also had a weird transmission jitter.. i’ll be back with a GX with much lower miles or maybe the 22’
U! Can clean and do the repair it on your own. There is a spray that clean it out no prob.
Great video, I like your humor, you should’ve bought a tundra TRD instead.
Too big for my garage, but they are sexy...
ah yea, I recognize that pirate ship! that's Big Two Toyota
First time watching your show and loved it. I have a 06 gx470 for the even more poor man land cruiser with only 101k on it. Live in the snobsdalle area and would really like to hit the trail with you. Not really sure how to make contact with you because I'm really old and not to good with technology. Maybe you can send me some message and I'll try to remember to watch for it. Keep up the great videos. James
Lets also talk about the pirate ship in your dealer
Big Two Toyota in Chandler Arizona is pretty awesome.
Great video... we just moved to AZ from Cal. Any recommendation on a good Lexus shop please let me know. I'm near Vail btw.
Thanks! I've had a good experience from Tri-city transmission in Tempe and Brakes Plus in Gilbert. BP is hit and miss by location but the guys at the Warner shop are all 4x4 guys. That's where I take it for fluids, etc. I used to take it to Chandler Toyota but they didn't exactly nail it on my throttle body so...
Crazy how expensive these have gotten
Quality, capability and looks isn't cheap and shouldn't be!
Everything. Thank biden
Tucson to Tulsa is only a 2 day leisurely drive. I'da driven that and saved $$$
Great info! Thanks!
Honest feedback, but the complacent lack of car knowledge on a channel that mentions over landing as one of its primary points of focus is pretty off-putting.
Solid feedback -
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A brilliant video...love the humor.....we could hang.....
You are hilarious. I subscribed.
I’ve owned 2 GX, 3 4Runners, and a Taco. I think the only thing I’ve ever had to go to the dealer for other than maintenance was a throttle body issue with my Tacoma.
How old are they; how many miles?
@@danielrosales5968 That’s over several decades. Several high mileage I’m sure. My current GX has 40K on it and I could drive it to 200K without seeing a CEL.
Another toyo fan boy... boring as ever.
Which one was your favorite?
@@jeremyking3986probably the 5th Gen 4Runner ORP.. but now I own a Raptor 37 & it’s my all-time favorite.
Your GX looks great! I have a 2011 premium. What did you use to black out the chrome? Thanks
Mostly plasti, some vinyl. Im going to touch it up, replace the grill and fix my headlights in an upcoming video.
When they rate the GX 15 miles per gallon, they’re running all season tires.
Dude you bought a sight unseen 10 year old truck with 151k try that with a ford ! You really have no complaints, why pay to put it plugs and definitely don’t pay to flush coolant that’s even easier. Sorry dude it’s a good video ( quality, sound and pics) but I’m getting tired of people calling it a poor mans whatever, it’s a $60k truck new , I would guess you my friend have never been poor , I have. But now I’m loving my gx 👍🏼 , good luck
Are there other people calling their GX "Poor Man's Land Cruiser"? Because I trademarked that shirt ; ) Thanks for watching!
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods I said “poor man’s whatever” as in people are calling it their poor man’s Overlander or their poor man’s off roader etc. “landcruiser “ in your case . Sorry I didn’t painfully break it down to begin with.
Everyone always mentions fuel mileage on these, but never mentions how expensive the GX, or any Lexus for that matter, is to insure. A 10yr old GX is more expensive to insure than a brand new 4runner(by a bit, but still).
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How much is the insurance?
is it normal for you guys to ask your wife permission to buy things?
Depends on how long you want her to be your wife ; )
I’m thinking of upgrading my ‘06 tundra, but things are so expensive now!
This WAS a waste of time, good stuff Jake! 👍
Great video
Thanks!
I average around 17MPG per tank in my 2012.
I average 15.3 but there are lots of hills where I live. Road trip from San Francisco to Los Ángeles i just averaged 20.1 mph cruise control at 75 (very windy too).
I am getting 18-19 miles for my 2013
I have a 14 LX570, visited some buddys in the SF Bay Area, and on my way back to LA, i got 21 MPG setting the radar cruise to 85 with AC on. I thought the dash computer was breaking my balls, but when i stopped at the pump in Lost Hills, i was pleasantly surprised to find that it was indeed getting 21 MPG. Even after i passed the grapevine, my average was 19 MPG which is still 2 better than EPA
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That’s damn good for that 5.7!
Thats because sf to La is downhill ; )
I’m getting around 17 mpg also
Why is it so low ? I would think they would be able to get more efficient mileage. Even the Tahoe’s get over 20 on highway
11.3 is horrible. I get 17-18 average with 285/70R17 KO2's without even accounting for the size of the tire in the calculations.
Ouch.. it hurts watching this saying you paid 15k for this basically and now it would cost over 30k for one of these
11.3 ... yea, I think I'm gonna go with the 4Runner
Its a beautiful machine and does get significantly better miles from each tank… but no crotch-conditioning…
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods I REALLY like what you did! I've looked at both and it's just me now empty nesting so it's hard to drop $70k on a new one and I don't think I want the redesigned 2023 4R that will be built in San Antonio until the kinks are worked out. Maybe a project is in order haha
I can't believe that you paid someone to do all the simple maintenance items. Replacing the throttle body is only a 15 to 20 min job even for you.
glad to see your fuel economy.
i thought something was wrong with mine 😅
With bigger tires, rims and all the weight of roof rack added, expect to get less than the rated mpg. My 2011 gx460 can get 26mpg on highway driving at 60mph.
Dont forget “driving like you stole it”.
@@abuelb i’m early on the highway and when i do, it’s 17.
@@WastingTimeInTheWoods how is that possible when the transmission is soo lazy 😂
Proud New owner of a 2013 GX460, great video +1 sub for you! Could you put a link to some of the forums I want to join some but have no clue where to find them
Welcome and congrats! Ih8mud.com clublexus.com expeditionportal.com gxor FB group is great too.
Need an update!!!
Can’t wait for my 2022 GX arriving next month..$64,000 🤪
Carbon Build-up? I thought Toyota GX or Landcruiser is Very Reliable and since it is Port Injection, carbon build up is not on its vocabulary. Now I'm having second thoughts in buying a Toyota GX!!!
If my video gives you first or second thoughts about anything other than getting another beer, I have failed.
This.... is very timely. :D
Holy over 3K subs!
🎉 And you were one of the first my friend. I think you made the first comment that wasn't from a family member : ) Thank you.
I was just thinking the same thing. I joined on around 950 and am happy Jake is getting popular around here.
Thank you!
You paid to have it inspected by a Lexus dealer and they didn’t tell you all of those services were needed? If they did why didn’t the selling dealership take care of those services or adjust the price accordingly?
@ 4minutes. Can you say Sea Foam in the tank and the spray into the intake.
How about now? Any issues on your GX470? I was told not to buy a 2010 Gx460. What do you think?
Mine is a 2010 460. Love it. Best purchase Ive ever made. No issues since the throttle body replacement.
So you bought a truck across the country that you had to ship, had minor maintenance and bought expensive add-ons.
Exactly.