I’ve owned both. I like the simplicity of the 4Runner and the roll down back window. I also think it looks better. The drive of the GX is night and day better, obviously more power, quieter and smoother. As a daily, it’s not even close, the GX is better.
The back window is so underrated when you can have the windows down without the wind rapping and have the air run out the back. Not a wrangler or bronco but I love it year round when it's cold you're not getting the wind but the fresh air too.
Why does no one ever speak about the fact that the GX has 3:90 diff gears while the 4Runner has 3:75. That makes a difference in towing. Also no one talks about the torque curve of the engine. That's what matters in towing also. Why these engine make so little power is because lower power in a larger engine reduces cylinder heat and pressure while increasing the duty cycle of the engine. That's why your low power 4Runner and GX can run at high RPM with no issue. The 4Runner has a deep skirted block with a main web girdle, 6 bolt main with cross bolted mains, and windage tray. The heads are large high port heads, and the lower aluminum intake has a tunnel ram design. All this for only 270 Lbs of torque. This is why this engine does not break. So much so that over seas Toyota put this V6 in the Land Cruiser 300.
Only mechanically inclined ppl know about it. For a layman this is terrible on the paper, only 265 hp, no turbo, port injection and mileage is 17mpg combined!
That gearing won't make a big difference. That's like a 4% difference. The torque on the v8 is all of the difference Edit: The extra gear the GX has helps more too
Thank you for the brilliant comment. I never knew and wondered…for example, drove a rental Armada with a beautiful growl and powerful V8, by comparison my 4R ORP is slower and struggles…
Most people who put that much extra weight in the 4RNR regear the diffs. You should even really do it after a lift kit & bigger tires. Can't say I've seen a video where they've talked about doing it, especially with all that armor & towing a trailer. I regeared mine w/ Yukon gears after lifting & bigger tires. Made a big difference!
Absolutely love my 5th Gen Limited. Gorgeous. Easy to enhance and customize your look just a bit with only a few minor mods. Raptors, visors, hood protector and a couple more. Yes I LOVE it. ❤
I’ve driven 5th gen 4Runners and own a 3rd gen 4runner and GX460 and I couldn’t agree more with everything you said. Basically it comes down to personal preference because they are both amazing vehicles and you can’t go wrong with either. Keep up the good work, I love hearing your opinion as you have used your stuff for a long time vs some people that just give quick first impressions.
We've owned three of each, short of the roll down rear window and the sportier styling on the 4Runner we choose the GX over the 5th Gen every single time. Both are great vehicles, especially when used in this overland segment and they will go down as some of the best of all time for this use as well.
What is happening, what is the milage, and are you the original owner. No vehicle can overcome poor maintenance. That is why the question if someone else owned it prior. @@tnc925
Glad I was able to snag a GX 460 last year for the Wife while they still have the V8! It's been wonderful to drive, and hauls everything we need for beach trips. Super comfortable and quiet ride on long drives, and zero back pain from sitting in the seats for a long time. Once it's paid off.. gotta consider bumpers and tires!
Excellent video. I have owned two GX 460s a 2011 as well as a current 2022 both luxury models, and I have to say it is the best driving suv arguably on the planet other than the LX 570 but who wants to have something that large and expensive not me. The GX is the sweet spot and I love that V8. I would argue it is the greatest cruising motor ever made it’s so smooth and the instant power is so nice especially when you compare it to these tiny overstressed turbos. I don’t know how anyone enjoys those cars I’ll be flat out honest naturally aspirated V8s are the greatest motors ever made.
i have a 2005 with the V8 but its 2wd😭 i really want one in 4wd but they are hard to find now and the few you find are very expensive or are gone in a day
I went to buy a 4Runner a few months ago. After getting a ridiculous run around, game playing, outright lying from Toyota dealers on availability and actual cost, I started looking at the GX. Turned out I could get a new GX premium plus for about the same that Toyota dealers want for a TRD (not the pro version which was actually thousands more than the GX due to the market adjustment add in).
I've just learned so much about these two vehicles and overlanding from watching your video. No one that I am aware has produced such an informative video regarding these topics. Thank you for producing this video and sharing your knowledge!
One additional preference I've found that really matters for traveling / overlanding / sightseeing: at 6'1", the 5th gen 4R cockpit glass feels very much bunker-like to me when looking forward and to the sides, whereas the GX glass is sooooo much more expansive. Without doing any contortions you can see higher up hillsides in canyons, lower down into valleys on passes (and into ditches when in the dirt) and the forward margins are larger as well.
I just came across your channel, going down the rabbit hole of UA-cam. I do have to say, I don’t know what your employment was before, but you are one of the best presenters I’ve watched in a long time. Keep up the good work!!!
I’ve driven gx460 with the V8 in a few countries and own one myself. Those engines are designed to RUN, doesn’t matter what kind of gas you can get your hands on. I run cheap stuff, non ethanol. Every oil change(just for SnGs)a bottle of B12. I’ve got almost double the miles than yours and she don’t knock ..I’ve never heard of one going bad on 87octane. If you have proof, I’d love to see it🤔
Wait, I’ve owned 2 2012 gx460 base, and they’ve both had the terrible touchscreen. And the HVAC fan speed is in the touchscreen controls. That screen is the worst part of the car. Gx460s were available in the USA without the screen?
Here in Georgia, most of us in this community know the GX and it definitely has trickled into the used market around here and the prices for them have been pretty high. Unless moon miles don't matter to you. 4runner is just plain expensive, even for the good old 2nd thru 4th gens.
I have owned my 2010 5gen trail with KDSS since January 2010 and it has run flawlessly since. Only the dealer services it and the only mod I've done was changing up the suspension slightly with Fox shocks and larger UCRs and I had the dealer's front end guy do the work in house, which was excellent (he's a well versed off-road enthusiast). The only other mod was in the beginning when I added sound deadening front to back, top to bottom; it added about 180lbs but well worth the effort IMHO. I also removed the cloth about 3 years ago and had the seats and arm rest completely wrapped in some high grade perforated gray leather. I've thought about picking up a GX, which think are great, except for the approach and departure angles, but whenever I'd go drive one and then get back in my 4Runner I'd ask myself why. Lately I've been thinking about having my Toyota dealer install a Magnuson supercharger. Anyway, thoroughly enjoyed the comparison of the two vehicles. Thanks.
The main things for me that make the 460 superior are: 1. V8 for towing 2. Full-time 4wd. Its one of the best drivelines ive used for snow driving and I love being able to put it in 4Lo unlocked. It will tackle some pretty gnarly terrain unlocked and it makes moving my trailer around the yard easy without binding up. 3. The 6 speed with the shorter axle ratio. I bet my GX gets the same MPG's as a 4Runner and yet has deeper gearing. It can reasonably turn 33's without having to regear. 4. KDSS on all 460's vs just TRD OR 4Runners. The GX is missing the locker but ATRAC can get you threw a lot.
@@SylentONEYeah but the TTV6 is better than the V8 IMHO. My GX460 motor was fine, but pretty weak all things considered. Just not as weak as the 4.0 in the 4Runner. But I MUCH preferred my 3.5L Ecoboost in my F150. 35" tires and the Ecoboost didnt even notice them. I've since gotten rid of my GX460 and have an LX570 now. The 5.7L is so much better than the 4.6L it not even funny.
This is probably by far the BEST review/comparison I have seen or read anywhere last several years. Some so many ignorant people just say they are the same truck with a little luxury and a different engine. Thank you for this. Ignorant UA-camr like @PRviewsvlogs can definitely watch and learn from this video and open his horizon that what he knows isn't everything... Thank you for doing this video. It also taught me a lot about the differences in two vehicles as I definitely noticed the driving dynamics between the two are vastly different on highways yet some don't agree. Maybe their brain and nerves may be missing some senses on their body.
Great video Kevin! My 2019 4R TRD Off Road has KDSS and a 2" lift. On KO2s that things goes everywhere and is plenty comfortable going down the highway as well. And...it's still worth about what I paid for it 4 year ago! Crazy.
@@Lexusgx550 It's nice but I wouldn't say it's a must. I think it needs a suspension upgrade over stock either way so you could make the ride much nicer by doing the upgrade. However, stock suspension with KDSS is better than without. I have an IronMan foam cell suspension upgrade and that made a noticeable difference.
What kind of lift did you get? It seems like KDSS makes lifts difficult. I had a 14 and a 16, both with KDSS, and I always wanted a lift dlbut didn't know how to go about it.
Great review. Where I live, in the Seattle area, having a full-time 4-wheel drive is a must because of all the rain. My 4runner limited performs flawlessly and love it.
Hi. I live in Seattle too. I have same feeling that for traveling over mountain passes in winter on highways requires full time 4wd. While part time in such conditions should be operated in 2wd , which would be harder to drive, because 4wd with no central differential would just dangerous. Am I figuring out that right?
The best video comparison ever. You hit all the points, great sarcastic humor, excellent lived experiences and definitely makes me consider buying one of the two, yet undecided on which one. I’m simple but looking for a daily (used) with comfort and a great price. Thanks and keep up the adventure.
Have an 08 4runner Limited V6 with 250k miles. Love the truck to death but power was always lackluster and I didn't want the fuel thirst of my wifes Gx460. So at 190k, I got the URD supercharger stage 1 package installed. Now "Sharon" puts down around 350 wheel horsepower. It's AMAZING. 0-60 is down to 6.2 and passing is effortless. Also, with the clamshell tent on top, 285 tires, a 3 inch lift, victory stealth bumper with winch and trailswing for the spare, she no longer struggles on long highway inclines. Well worth the cost. The truck will have to go kamikaze before I sell her.
In 2017 I completed my doctoral research, presented my dissertation to my peers and research supervisors, and published the dissertation. My friend, this is what you just did. Well done, and you passed with distinction! BTW, I've owned two 2nd Gen 4Runners, three Land Cruisers, two GX470s, two Rubicons, a 1996 Discovery, a 2008 LR3, and a Sportsmobile.
I dont offroad as much so the GX made sense for me. That extra comfort in the rear is also much needed for my kids. Premium gas does suck at the pump. But neither the 4runner or gx have great gas mileage anyway.
You don't need premium gas. Same motor and tune as the 460 in the Tundra - 87. Lexus markets premium as it's premium. Euro cars a different story - they're tuning specifically for premium - and I can't think of anything made anymore than isn't forced-induction (which almost always *requires* premium...
This is absolutely a great video. You did a great job of getting into details but not too much. I love the fact that you have hands on experience with both the 4Runner and the G so you are not blowing amoke. That gives you credibility. I'm driving a 470. It sounds like many of the interior switchery things you dont like about the 460 are not in a 470. It would be interesting to know how it would compare against the 4Runner. It's still got the V8 and a manual 4x shift linkage.
The comfort of the gx460 is much better for long road trips. No more back pain after 12 hour trips. Had a 2011 sr5 premium 4runner for 110k miles. Haven’t looked back after getting 2022 gx460.
mmm I guess if you talk about factory setup, then yes. I got a set of Bilstein 6112's and 5100 on the back, for pretty much $ 600 and the ride quality is now probably as good as my GX. No more nose dive, much stiffer and predictable ride. I did several 16 hrs drive from Miami to DC and haven't felt back pain at all on my 4runner. Coffee helped a lot.... lol
I've noticed that the more-upright seating position in the GX (vs the legs-out seating in the 4R) is easier on my back. Neither gives me pain, but sitting in a chair for long periods *is* easier than sitting on the floor, legs-out.
Great video! I took my 5th gen up to Pikes Peak yesterday. She was puffing, but too us up with no protest fully loaded. Y’all have a unique perspective bc you have both. Also appreciate the Dukes of Hazard ref
This is the best real world review of the 4runner I've seen. Incredible content backed by reak world experience at an unmatched scale. Incredible. Thank you. Ive put a deposit down on a 2024 4runner. I can't wait to travel 600 miles to get it. I'm that excited about it.
Just found your channel. You did an excellent job! Great content and the way you present it is clear, well-paced and easy to absorb. Thank you for giving us such great content!
Pretty on point but one thing you missed, yes power figures are pretty close but the GX puts the power down way quicker you will get most of the power down low at 2200 rpm and all of it at 3500 while the t4r has to rev to 4400 for max power
We have a 2014 Land Cruiser, finest vehicle Toyota ever made. We also have a 1991 4Runner. We pulled a 16 foot trailer from Illinois to Alaska with the Land Cruiser, 4300 miles, it didn't care. I did have to replace the brakes and tires.
I think most people fall into severe use and don’t realize it. Its right in the owner’s manuals that means not just dusty environments pulling a trailer, but short trips, driving with a raised roof basket, driving in temperatures under 32F. I have always changed oil at 5k synthetic and before that 3k conventional. Always change transmission, drain and fill not flush, transfer case and diff fluids at 15k and do coolant every 3 years. Fluids are cheap and easy. As for the GX and 4R discussion for overlanding I would recommend the 4R for parts availability and lower cost of repairs. I don’t care for the rear door or the styling in general of the GX but that’s me. I do like the V8 and the drivetrain. The 4.0 lasts forever so just let it sing.
Thank you so much for this insightful and thorough analysis, which was very professionally produced and amazingly well edited. I am in the northern Colorado area and will be doing some over landing, some wilderness shooting, and some commuting, so no matter which vehicle I end up with, I know I’ll be able to maximize my advantage because I listened to your hard-earned insights.
Very informative and straight to the point. On the whole, very positive feed back on both platforms. To paraphrase your summary, it comes down to what style of driving you do and preferences you like. Very well done. Thank you for sharing.
My wife has a TRDPro and I have a LC200, we love them both! Although, it is nice having the extra room in the Land Cruiser on some of our longer trips. Well, that and that big V8😀😂
I bought a 2011 4runner 4x4 sr5 for 9k. It had 150k miles and driven by an old lady. Put trd rims and at tires on it. Eibach springs. Drives like a dream. Couldnt pass up this deal.
Best information on the 4Runner I’ve seen on UA-cam Thanks. Your comparison on the four-wheel-drive systems of both of your vehicles. It’s necessary for me to make a decision on whether I should buy a GX or not. Keep up the great work.
I commented on your Facebook post.. but we own a 2011 4Runner and 2014 GX. I agree with pretty much everything you said but my wife and I have determined that the 4Runner needs the V8, cooled seats, and rear overhead air and it would be perfect!
What a awesome presentation , toyota boy in Africa and like me ...wife loves the lexus... we don't get the 4Runner so the V8 twin turbo diesel is our go to....had to subscribe cause this is honest advice and THAT goes a long way in this day and age...
We currently have a modified 19’ GX460. Now we’re looking to add a 4Runner to the mix….I guess opposite in order than your family. Enjoyed your videos and have inspired us to buy a GX and now a 4 runner. We realized have two older kids and 3 dogs…GX just isn’t big enough. We need a second overlander.
That's about as good a breakdown comparison as I've ever watched. First video I've watched of yours and i subscribed on this one alone! I look forward to checking out some more! Great job, thanks.
I went to a dealership to buy a 2021 Lexus GX460 this morning and was a handshake away from sealing the deal when the sales manager stepped in and said that it had already been sold to another person. He said he didn't have any more 460's but that he had a fully-loaded 2024 4Runner Limited which was "pretty much the same thing" (his words). I test drove it and the two weren't even close, in my opinion. Sure the underpinnings might be similar but the ride quality and handling was night and day. I'll just keep looking for another GX460. I've owned a 4Runner and an FJ, both of which were great vehicles but that Lexus is on another level. Lastly, at 6'5'' I felt cramped in the 4Runner but had 4" of headroom in the 460 even though both vehicles had a sunroof. Plus, let's face it, owning a Lexus is a bit of a status symbol and I don't have a problem with that. I like that.
I’m glad I found your channel. I’ve been wanting to do some overlanding. Not a full time thing, just weekend getaways or week long vacation trips. I have a 2006 wrangler but there just isn’t a lot of room inside. I’ve been torn between the GX and the 4Runner, but your video helped me decide on the simplicity of the 4Runner. Thanks for giving us the rundown on the two platforms. Greatly appreciated.
So I started my search a few months ago seeking a GX. I was sure it was the truck for me. It had all the offroad features I thought I needed. When the time came. I ended up driving both a 4Runner and the GX. and while the runner wasn't even on my radar thinking they were out of my budget, I ended up liking and Buying the Runner over the GX. The runner felt more at home with me. It just......fits! 2021 4runner Trd offroad to be specific.
In 2020 I looked at both the GX and the 4R TRD ORP W KDSS The GX was about $27K more. Today in 2024 I did a KBB value on both models with same mileage. To my surprise the 4R was worth between $500-$1000 more than the GX on a trade in. So the 4R has way better resale value than the GX. I was really surprised by this. I just recently traded my 2020 4R on a brand new 4R TRD ORP W/KDSS. The Trade difference was only $6000. Nothing holds its resale value like a 4R.
We have similar vehicles here in Australia.( Prado and Fortuner) but the big difference is 95% are Turbo Diesels. But I'm quite happy with my 2017 Turbo Diesel Nissan Navara.
My 4Runner comes in at the end of January I’m trading in my 2022 SRT Durango so definitely going to be a big difference. I also owned like 4 wrangler and two grand Cherokee so I’m finally biting the built and going Toyota.
I have a 2002 sequoia from auction for just under $3k, 168k with inner tire wear and a beat up body lol! The non VVTi and 4 speed def feels the weight here in Colorado. It’s been a road warrior for 4 kids and 2 dogs. She just got a new timing kit and I must say, some of the cleanest valve covers I’ve ever seen!
Well after driving 4x4 1/2 ton Trucks for the last 35 years I bought a 2022 4Runner TRD Pro and put a set of Rock-sliders on and when I wear out the tires I will put on 275 70 17R tires and call it good as this is my hunting truck and FYI I am also 6’2 and find it very comfortable. I am also found it more capable than any truck I have had off road.
My wife and I have owned a 2020 4Runner and a 2018 GX460. Wife loves the luxury aspect of the GX, and also the hatch on the 4Runner was heavy for her. I love driving her GX for the V8, a lot more pep to her step then my 97 Land Cruiser. Definitely concur on the AC controls!
@justin4wd Hi, thanks for sharing your experience. Just wondering how would you say their difference in comfortness when traveling long distances such as seats, noise on highway, maneuverability on highway, or other factors. Thanks.
We currently have 2012 S550 and 2020 F350 DRW 6.7 Lariat. We put the order in for 2023 or 2024 F450 DRW Limited HO 6.7 and looking to possibly getting 2024 Toyoda Land Cruiser - upper trim when available or 2024 GX 500.. My wife is leaning toward GX 500 and I am for Land Cruiser. Isn't maintenance cost lower with Toyota than Lexus? I know Lexus uses premium gas but not sure of what is recommended for Land Cruiser. Lastly, I am going to double check on mpg?
What great commentary and I agree both are winners! In regards to your comments on steering pull and steering rack replacement - it's likely the aggressive offset wheels. Impacts scrub radius and torque steer on power, as well as puts much more load on the steering rack.
My first Toyota is my current (2019 luxury) Lexus GX460. I absolutely love it. It’s a lovely place to be, and I look forward to doing some light to moderate off roading, and going from there.
I am currently planning to trade my 2014 Jeep Wrangler for a 2022 4Runner TRD Off-Road. I love the Wrangler and it has never left me stranded, but at 139,670 miles it is developing some significant engine issues even though I have meticulously stayed ahead of routine maintenance and upkeep.
Nice comparison.! The window switches on the GX460 are my biggest peeve. Followed closely by the overly aggressive cruise control at highway speeds, then the radio power button and b-pillar.
Right?! Such a simple thing but it pisses me off every time, lol. Oh I meant to mention the cruise control just shuts off on ours if the bill is too tall. It won't downshift!
@@LifestyleOverland wow! That's what my '85 Camry used to do. The gx will will wait forever to downshift then drop 2 or 3 gears to maintain speed. I just preemptively downshift to keep my sanity.
This is crazy. I was sure set on a 5th gen 4Runner for an overland build until I actually drove one. The thing was crazy underpowered with the 5 speed transmission; I nearly met my maker trying to overtake on a mountain pass in Colorado. My friend recommended the V8 GX460 and here I am watching this. But the even crazier part is that you can buy a used GX460 for the same price as an older 4Runner, WILD!
I had a 19 4R Trd for 3 years. Now im driving a 19 GX460. The Lexus is a lot better on long road trips. It definitely drives a lot smoother at higher highway speeds. But with that said, I would opt for my 4 Runner for the trails any day.
I drovethe 4runner trd sport and Lexus GX, the GX drove a little better, but the 4 runner felt better for some reason, I had more leg room, it just felt better.
Great review. After picking up a mint '14 GX and showing it of to a couple T4R buddies, they're now GX owners and haven't looked back! Two things on the GX, in order of importance: 1. Regarding transmission durability, Toyota uses marginal non-synth fluid in both vehicles with a tested flash point of 325F, and insult to injury, LexYota includes a separate OEM oil cooler in every OTHER market than the US!! As if we ALL only mawl-crawl these beasts!?! Good news is, the OEM cooler can be pieced together for ~$350, and installed by any decent home mechanic in a couple hrs, or ~$300-400 via any reputable shop... and swap in Valvoline Maxlife transmission fluid (725F flashpoint) while you're at it. 3-4 consecutive "drain and fills" will get you 90-95% fuild replacement, as not all fluid can be swapped at once. 2. Regular fuel is more than fine in the GX. Its mill is the identical truck engine, used in identical form/tune w/86-87 octane in numerous other applications. In a nutshell, gas up your GX with regular, and spend your savings on an OEM transmission cooler and a decent synth fluid... It's the best $700 saved/spent on your GX in the next 2 years. Enjoy!
Great info. I tow with our 470 (I think those HAVE trans coolers) and just change the fluid every 40k miles (I've gone synth as well). Still shifting beautifully at nearly 200k miles - though I will say that the fluid does look a little used after 40k, so beware buying these things with 100k+ miles if they haven't had the trans fluid changed...
The algorithm sent me your video here and it’s the first one I’ve seen from, and first time I’ve ever even seen, your channel to begin with. Both are beautiful trucks!! Speaking of beautiful, you’ve got a beautiful family brother, good for you! So yeah I’m a new Yota owner. I recently, four months ago, traded my lifted 2015 F2FIDDY 6.7 PowerStroke Diesel, for my 2021 Yota 4Runner TRD ORP w/XP Predator Pkg. midnight black metallic with black interior and I’m getting 19/21mpg’s and my F2FIDDY was gettin 8/10mpg’s on diesel. Absolutely love my 5th Gen and probably a good thing I got the 5th gen as it’s really looking like the 6th is gonna be forced induction or a hybrid and not the bulletproof 2nd gen 1GR-FE and will further increase the values of the 5th gens. At any rate, appreciate the video and lookin forward to seeing more from the channel!
I bought a new 4.7-liter V8 4Runner Sport (in silver) way back in 2004, and I'm still driving it every day. It's still in very good shape and will probably outlive me.
I have a 2003 V8 and was about to make the same statement. That car is my daily driver and I am convinced that it will run forever, with only basic maintenance.
The GX just has such a goofball looking front end that I can't get over. Looks great from the rear though. I'm sure we've all known chicks like this. Also, the 4Runner is cheaper to operate and to maintain. They are comparable in reliability and life expectancy to the GXs as well. But the GXs are much less common (which I respect as a selling point), and has more power than the 4Runner, though not much.
I’ve owned both. I like the simplicity of the 4Runner and the roll down back window. I also think it looks better. The drive of the GX is night and day better, obviously more power, quieter and smoother. As a daily, it’s not even close, the GX is better.
Which trim of the 4Runner did you own? I feel that the Limited would be closer to the GX in comfort.
@@MHN212it’s not mate completely different car, soundproofing etc.
@@giulihoho4421my 3rd gen 4runner is so damn loud
I’ve got 23 limited 4R but would like to eventually get a used 23 GX once the the prices come down in a few years
The back window is so underrated when you can have the windows down without the wind rapping and have the air run out the back. Not a wrangler or bronco but I love it year round when it's cold you're not getting the wind but the fresh air too.
Why does no one ever speak about the fact that the GX has 3:90 diff gears while the 4Runner has 3:75. That makes a difference in towing. Also no one talks about the torque curve of the engine. That's what matters in towing also. Why these engine make so little power is because lower power in a larger engine reduces cylinder heat and pressure while increasing the duty cycle of the engine. That's why your low power 4Runner and GX can run at high RPM with no issue. The 4Runner has a deep skirted block with a main web girdle, 6 bolt main with cross bolted mains, and windage tray. The heads are large high port heads, and the lower aluminum intake has a tunnel ram design. All this for only 270 Lbs of torque. This is why this engine does not break. So much so that over seas Toyota put this V6 in the Land Cruiser 300.
Only mechanically inclined ppl know about it. For a layman this is terrible on the paper, only 265 hp, no turbo, port injection and mileage is 17mpg combined!
That gearing won't make a big difference. That's like a 4% difference. The torque on the v8 is all of the difference
Edit: The extra gear the GX has helps more too
Thank you for the brilliant comment. I never knew and wondered…for example, drove a rental Armada with a beautiful growl and powerful V8, by comparison my 4R ORP is slower and struggles…
Outstanding comment, Henry! Thank you for sharing these design details of this engine!!!
Most people who put that much extra weight in the 4RNR regear the diffs. You should even really do it after a lift kit & bigger tires. Can't say I've seen a video where they've talked about doing it, especially with all that armor & towing a trailer. I regeared mine w/ Yukon gears after lifting & bigger tires. Made a big difference!
I absolutely love the 4runner. Its simplicity is its charm.
Absolutely love my 5th Gen Limited. Gorgeous. Easy to enhance and customize your look just a bit with only a few minor mods. Raptors, visors, hood protector and a couple more. Yes I LOVE it. ❤
This is, hands down, THE BEST comparison video on these two machines BAR NONE. Extremely well done and articulated.. THANK YOU 🙏🏻
Agreed.
I’ve driven 5th gen 4Runners and own a 3rd gen 4runner and GX460 and I couldn’t agree more with everything you said. Basically it comes down to personal preference because they are both amazing vehicles and you can’t go wrong with either. Keep up the good work, I love hearing your opinion as you have used your stuff for a long time vs some people that just give quick first impressions.
We've owned three of each, short of the roll down rear window and the sportier styling on the 4Runner we choose the GX over the 5th Gen every single time. Both are great vehicles, especially when used in this overland segment and they will go down as some of the best of all time for this use as well.
Is the Gx in the shop much? Our 2006 lx470 is always in the shop and our 2000 Land Cruiser is never in there.
What is happening, what is the milage, and are you the original owner. No vehicle can overcome poor maintenance. That is why the question if someone else owned it prior. @@tnc925
3 each?! Now that's brand loyalty!
@@tnc925think you might just have a bad LX… they are typically solid rigs
Gx has to be my favorite. Have owned both. Better gas mileage with the gx and improved comfort.
Glad I was able to snag a GX 460 last year for the Wife while they still have the V8! It's been wonderful to drive, and hauls everything we need for beach trips. Super comfortable and quiet ride on long drives, and zero back pain from sitting in the seats for a long time. Once it's paid off.. gotta consider bumpers and tires!
Excellent video. I have owned two GX 460s a 2011 as well as a current 2022 both luxury models, and I have to say it is the best driving suv arguably on the planet other than the LX 570 but who wants to have something that large and expensive not me. The GX is the sweet spot and I love that V8.
I would argue it is the greatest cruising motor ever made it’s so smooth and the instant power is so nice especially when you compare it to these tiny overstressed turbos. I don’t know how anyone enjoys those cars I’ll be flat out honest naturally aspirated V8s are the greatest motors ever made.
100% I have gx with 204 k miles runs silky smooth and the power of my goodness specially when u downshift to 4 th gear wow can’t beat it for the size
Loved my 4th gen V8 4runner. It was the best of both 4Runner and GX. I should have never gotten rid of it.
i have a 2005 with the V8 but its 2wd😭 i really want one in 4wd but they are hard to find now and the few you find are very expensive or are gone in a day
I went to buy a 4Runner a few months ago. After getting a ridiculous run around, game playing, outright lying from Toyota dealers on availability and actual cost, I started looking at the GX. Turned out I could get a new GX premium plus for about the same that Toyota dealers want for a TRD (not the pro version which was actually thousands more than the GX due to the market adjustment add in).
Nah.. no way a trd off road was selling for same price as gx…
Yeah but you must have forgot about the resale value and how much the 4 runner holds it value...?
@@Invertmini1212GX holds value as well, though lol
@@Invertmini1212So does the GX.🤷🏿♂️
@@Yoyomanmanholla Some dealer's markup is insane. Where I live, the TRD Offroad goes for about the same as the GX. The markup is the ridiculous.
I've just learned so much about these two vehicles and overlanding from watching your video. No one that I am aware has produced such an informative video regarding these topics. Thank you for producing this video and sharing your knowledge!
Glad it was helpful!
I love our 4Runner. It is just so simple and reliable as well as unbelievable off road pulling our trailer. Great video Kevin.
Nice! Glad you enjoyed it!
One additional preference I've found that really matters for traveling / overlanding / sightseeing: at 6'1", the 5th gen 4R cockpit glass feels very much bunker-like to me when looking forward and to the sides, whereas the GX glass is sooooo much more expansive. Without doing any contortions you can see higher up hillsides in canyons, lower down into valleys on passes (and into ditches when in the dirt) and the forward margins are larger as well.
The first words a coworker said as he got into my 4Runner were "I feel like I'm back in a tank" LOL
Thats such a huge consideration. A lot of crossovers feel that way too.
I just came across your channel, going down the rabbit hole of UA-cam. I do have to say, I don’t know what your employment was before, but you are one of the best presenters I’ve watched in a long time. Keep up the good work!!!
I’ve driven gx460 with the V8 in a few countries and own one myself. Those engines are designed to RUN, doesn’t matter what kind of gas you can get your hands on. I run cheap stuff, non ethanol. Every oil change(just for SnGs)a bottle of B12. I’ve got almost double the miles than yours and she don’t knock ..I’ve never heard of one going bad on 87octane. If you have proof, I’d love to see it🤔
My old GX470 doesn’t have that handy back window that opens. But I sure love it!!!! 160,000 owned miles in and looking for at least another 100k!!
Mine too!
I've got a 2012 GX460 Base, I love that there's no nav screen, all buttons for climate control and settings 🙏
Wait, I’ve owned 2 2012 gx460 base, and they’ve both had the terrible touchscreen. And the HVAC fan speed is in the touchscreen controls. That screen is the worst part of the car. Gx460s were available in the USA without the screen?
Here in Georgia, most of us in this community know the GX and it definitely has trickled into the used market around here and the prices for them have been pretty high. Unless moon miles don't matter to you. 4runner is just plain expensive, even for the good old 2nd thru 4th gens.
I have owned my 2010 5gen trail with KDSS since January 2010 and it has run flawlessly since. Only the dealer services it and the only mod I've done was changing up the suspension slightly with Fox shocks and larger UCRs and I had the dealer's front end guy do the work in house, which was excellent (he's a well versed off-road enthusiast). The only other mod was in the beginning when I added sound deadening front to back, top to bottom; it added about 180lbs but well worth the effort IMHO. I also removed the cloth about 3 years ago and had the seats and arm rest completely wrapped in some high grade perforated gray leather. I've thought about picking up a GX, which think are great, except for the approach and departure angles, but whenever I'd go drive one and then get back in my 4Runner I'd ask myself why. Lately I've been thinking about having my Toyota dealer install a Magnuson supercharger. Anyway, thoroughly enjoyed the comparison of the two vehicles. Thanks.
The main things for me that make the 460 superior are:
1. V8 for towing
2. Full-time 4wd. Its one of the best drivelines ive used for snow driving and I love being able to put it in 4Lo unlocked. It will tackle some pretty gnarly terrain unlocked and it makes moving my trailer around the yard easy without binding up.
3. The 6 speed with the shorter axle ratio. I bet my GX gets the same MPG's as a 4Runner and yet has deeper gearing. It can reasonably turn 33's without having to regear.
4. KDSS on all 460's vs just TRD OR 4Runners.
The GX is missing the locker but ATRAC can get you threw a lot.
The v8 is gone now
That’s why he said the 460, not the 550 (the new GX).
Install ARB it will outsmart most of the jeeps
@@SylentONEYeah but the TTV6 is better than the V8 IMHO. My GX460 motor was fine, but pretty weak all things considered. Just not as weak as the 4.0 in the 4Runner. But I MUCH preferred my 3.5L Ecoboost in my F150. 35" tires and the Ecoboost didnt even notice them.
I've since gotten rid of my GX460 and have an LX570 now. The 5.7L is so much better than the 4.6L it not even funny.
@@Jay-me7gwjust such a big truck
This is probably by far the BEST review/comparison I have seen or read anywhere last several years. Some so many ignorant people just say they are the same truck with a little luxury and a different engine. Thank you for this. Ignorant UA-camr like @PRviewsvlogs can definitely watch and learn from this video and open his horizon that what he knows isn't everything...
Thank you for doing this video. It also taught me a lot about the differences in two vehicles as I definitely noticed the driving dynamics between the two are vastly different on highways yet some don't agree. Maybe their brain and nerves may be missing some senses on their body.
Nothing else looks like the unique and capable 4-Runner.
I ABSOLUTELY love my 21 nightshade Limited 4Runner. It’s the Lexus and the 4Runner combined! Not to mention has a mean look!
Thank you for making this. It is one of the most informative for my own personal needs that I have found on youtube.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video Kevin! My 2019 4R TRD Off Road has KDSS and a 2" lift. On KO2s that things goes everywhere and is plenty comfortable going down the highway as well. And...it's still worth about what I paid for it 4 year ago! Crazy.
Kdss is a must ? I almost bought one but no kdss.
@@Lexusgx550 It's nice but I wouldn't say it's a must. I think it needs a suspension upgrade over stock either way so you could make the ride much nicer by doing the upgrade. However, stock suspension with KDSS is better than without. I have an IronMan foam cell suspension upgrade and that made a noticeable difference.
What kind of lift did you get? It seems like KDSS makes lifts difficult. I had a 14 and a 16, both with KDSS, and I always wanted a lift dlbut didn't know how to go about it.
If you stay around 2” or so any of them should work. I went with the Ironman Foam Cell
I love my silver 2014 Trail edition 4 runner…. 127,000 miles and not a single problem. Silver is amazing!
Great review. Where I live, in the Seattle area, having a full-time 4-wheel drive is a must because of all the rain. My 4runner limited performs flawlessly and love it.
Hi. I live in Seattle too. I have same feeling that for traveling over mountain passes in winter on highways requires full time 4wd. While part time in such conditions should be operated in 2wd , which would be harder to drive, because 4wd with no central differential would just dangerous. Am I figuring out that right?
The best video comparison ever. You hit all the points, great sarcastic humor, excellent lived experiences and definitely makes me consider buying one of the two, yet undecided on which one. I’m simple but looking for a daily (used) with comfort and a great price.
Thanks and keep up the adventure.
Have an 08 4runner Limited V6 with 250k miles. Love the truck to death but power was always lackluster and I didn't want the fuel thirst of my wifes Gx460. So at 190k, I got the URD supercharger stage 1 package installed. Now "Sharon" puts down around 350 wheel horsepower. It's AMAZING. 0-60 is down to 6.2 and passing is effortless. Also, with the clamshell tent on top, 285 tires, a 3 inch lift, victory stealth bumper with winch and trailswing for the spare, she no longer struggles on long highway inclines. Well worth the cost. The truck will have to go kamikaze before I sell her.
In 2017 I completed my doctoral research, presented my dissertation to my peers and research supervisors, and published the dissertation. My friend, this is what you just did. Well done, and you passed with distinction! BTW, I've owned two 2nd Gen 4Runners, three Land Cruisers, two GX470s, two Rubicons, a 1996 Discovery, a 2008 LR3, and a Sportsmobile.
I dont offroad as much so the GX made sense for me. That extra comfort in the rear is also much needed for my kids. Premium gas does suck at the pump. But neither the 4runner or gx have great gas mileage anyway.
You don't need premium gas. Same motor and tune as the 460 in the Tundra - 87. Lexus markets premium as it's premium. Euro cars a different story - they're tuning specifically for premium - and I can't think of anything made anymore than isn't forced-induction (which almost always *requires* premium...
One of the very very best comparison videos I've ever seen!! I have a 3rd Gen 4Runner. Very interested in the GX. Thanks again.
Love my GX. 2010-2013 has best approach/departure angles. 2.5" lift is perfect w/33" tires.
This is absolutely a great video. You did a great job of getting into details but not too much. I love the fact that you have hands on experience with both the 4Runner and the G so you are not blowing amoke. That gives you credibility. I'm driving a 470. It sounds like many of the interior switchery things you dont like about the 460 are not in a 470. It would be interesting to know how it would compare against the 4Runner. It's still got the V8 and a manual 4x shift linkage.
I just purchased 2023 GX 460 and Google algorithm got me here and I love this channel!!!!
Welcome! Glad you're enjoying it! 🙌
The comfort of the gx460 is much better for long road trips. No more back pain after 12 hour trips. Had a 2011 sr5 premium 4runner for 110k miles. Haven’t looked back after getting 2022 gx460.
mmm I guess if you talk about factory setup, then yes. I got a set of Bilstein 6112's and 5100 on the back, for pretty much $ 600 and the ride quality is now probably as good as my GX. No more nose dive, much stiffer and predictable ride. I did several 16 hrs drive from Miami to DC and haven't felt back pain at all on my 4runner. Coffee helped a lot.... lol
@@Ulghart that probably does help, but I think it largely has to do with the quality and comfort of the interior
I've noticed that the more-upright seating position in the GX (vs the legs-out seating in the 4R) is easier on my back. Neither gives me pain, but sitting in a chair for long periods *is* easier than sitting on the floor, legs-out.
That is good to know. Looking GX vs Land Cruiser for 2024 and beyond.
Great video! I took my 5th gen up to Pikes Peak yesterday. She was puffing, but too us up with no protest fully loaded. Y’all have a unique perspective bc you have both. Also appreciate the Dukes of Hazard ref
This is the best real world review of the 4runner I've seen. Incredible content backed by reak world experience at an unmatched scale.
Incredible. Thank you.
Ive put a deposit down on a 2024 4runner. I can't wait to travel 600 miles to get it. I'm that excited about it.
Just found your channel. You did an excellent job! Great content and the way you present it is clear, well-paced and easy to absorb. Thank you for giving us such great content!
Awesome, thank you!
Pretty on point but one thing you missed, yes power figures are pretty close but the GX puts the power down way quicker you will get most of the power down low at 2200 rpm and all of it at 3500 while the t4r has to rev to 4400 for max power
We have a 2014 Land Cruiser, finest vehicle Toyota ever made. We also have a 1991 4Runner. We pulled a 16 foot trailer from Illinois to Alaska with the Land Cruiser, 4300 miles, it didn't care. I did have to replace the brakes and tires.
I think most people fall into severe use and don’t realize it. Its right in the owner’s manuals that means not just dusty environments pulling a trailer, but short trips, driving with a raised roof basket, driving in temperatures under 32F. I have always changed oil at 5k synthetic and before that 3k conventional. Always change transmission, drain and fill not flush, transfer case and diff fluids at 15k and do coolant every 3 years. Fluids are cheap and easy. As for the GX and 4R discussion for overlanding I would recommend the 4R for parts availability and lower cost of repairs. I don’t care for the rear door or the styling in general of the GX but that’s me. I do like the V8 and the drivetrain. The 4.0 lasts forever so just let it sing.
I was a sceptic until I watched your Lexus build and some of your initial testing. I was impressed.
Thank you so much for this insightful and thorough analysis, which was very professionally produced and amazingly well edited.
I am in the northern Colorado area and will be doing some over landing, some wilderness shooting, and some commuting, so no matter which vehicle I end up with, I know I’ll be able to maximize my advantage because I listened to your hard-earned insights.
Glad you found it helpful! 👍
Very informative and straight to the point. On the whole, very positive feed back on both platforms. To paraphrase your summary, it comes down to what style of driving you do and preferences you like. Very well done. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
My wife has a TRDPro and I have a LC200, we love them both! Although, it is nice having the extra room in the Land Cruiser on some of our longer trips. Well, that and that big V8😀😂
I bet that full size room is nice! 😍
Love my LC200 too. I’ve driven 4Runners and my buddy’s GX460, but it’s such a different driving experience in the LC200. The 200 is built like a tank.
I bought a 2011 4runner 4x4 sr5 for 9k. It had 150k miles and driven by an old lady. Put trd rims and at tires on it. Eibach springs. Drives like a dream. Couldnt pass up this deal.
Best information on the 4Runner I’ve seen on UA-cam Thanks. Your comparison on the four-wheel-drive systems of both of your vehicles. It’s necessary for me to make a decision on whether I should buy a GX or not. Keep up the great work.
I commented on your Facebook post.. but we own a 2011 4Runner and 2014 GX. I agree with pretty much everything you said but my wife and I have determined that the 4Runner needs the V8, cooled seats, and rear overhead air and it would be perfect!
I love listening to reviews with reputation. Thank you.
excellent auto journalism...you are concise , organized, and hold the audience attention!!
GX460 was $5-10k less than most of the comparable 4Runners in the Reno area
What a awesome presentation , toyota boy in Africa and like me ...wife loves the lexus... we don't get the 4Runner so the V8 twin turbo diesel is our go to....had to subscribe cause this is honest advice and THAT goes a long way in this day and age...
Great review…after the 4Runners that I’ve owned and the GX470s that I own now…I choose GX470. But, the 4Runner will always be a classic beast.
The interior of the gx was what made me go for the 4runner. The layout looked like a camry from 2008 in a 2018 gx.
Seriously. Why is the wood trim RED???? Ass.
Best overall comparison ever!!! Very Informative!!!
Glad it was helpful!
We currently have a modified 19’ GX460. Now we’re looking to add a 4Runner to the mix….I guess opposite in order than your family. Enjoyed your videos and have inspired us to buy a GX and now a 4 runner. We realized have two older kids and 3 dogs…GX just isn’t big enough. We need a second overlander.
Went with the Fantastic Gx. Luxury and V8 power baby. Wonderful Wonderful Suv.
Excellent non bias review. I am currently deciding between these two to buy.
We, too, own both. We love each of them for different reasons, and if we had to choose one, it would be difficult!
The GX has everything together. A good daily that you can go anywhere in it. I love it.
That's about as good a breakdown comparison as I've ever watched. First video I've watched of yours and i subscribed on this one alone! I look forward to checking out some more! Great job, thanks.
Awesome, thank you!
Nice job. Thanks. I like that you mention the cost or depreciation of both. You can find used GX's cheaper than used 4runners.
I change a Forester diesel for a 4Runner and im in love with the toyota. Its just amazing. Great video man
LOL went from a 6.2L Trail Boss to the GX460. I do miss the power, however the 4.6 in the gx is like butter.
I went to a dealership to buy a 2021 Lexus GX460 this morning and was a handshake away from sealing the deal when the sales manager stepped in and said that it had already been sold to another person. He said he didn't have any more 460's but that he had a fully-loaded 2024 4Runner Limited which was "pretty much the same thing" (his words). I test drove it and the two weren't even close, in my opinion. Sure the underpinnings might be similar but the ride quality and handling was night and day. I'll just keep looking for another GX460. I've owned a 4Runner and an FJ, both of which were great vehicles but that Lexus is on another level. Lastly, at 6'5'' I felt cramped in the 4Runner but had 4" of headroom in the 460 even though both vehicles had a sunroof. Plus, let's face it, owning a Lexus is a bit of a status symbol and I don't have a problem with that. I like that.
Never had a Toyota but got a 2016 4Runner TE w
KDSS 2 yrs ago and couldn’t be happier except for the noise dive when braking.
Thanks for the comparison. I love your sense of humor!
This was an awesome review, thanks for your time putting this together. Unless you have an editor I know this took hours. 🔥
It was quite the project. Thanks for recognizing that!
Great video , witty script! I own a 2007 4 runner and don’t want to get rid of it!
I’m glad I found your channel. I’ve been wanting to do some overlanding. Not a full time thing, just weekend getaways or week long vacation trips. I have a 2006 wrangler but there just isn’t a lot of room inside. I’ve been torn between the GX and the 4Runner, but your video helped me decide on the simplicity of the 4Runner. Thanks for giving us the rundown on the two platforms. Greatly appreciated.
So I started my search a few months ago seeking a GX. I was sure it was the truck for me. It had all the offroad features I thought I needed. When the time came. I ended up driving both a 4Runner and the GX. and while the runner wasn't even on my radar thinking they were out of my budget, I ended up liking and Buying the Runner over the GX. The runner felt more at home with me. It just......fits! 2021 4runner Trd offroad to be specific.
In 2020 I looked at both the GX and the 4R TRD ORP W KDSS
The GX was about $27K more.
Today in 2024 I did a KBB value on both models with same mileage. To my surprise the 4R was worth between $500-$1000 more than the GX on a
trade in. So the 4R has way
better resale value than the GX.
I was really surprised by this.
I just recently traded my 2020 4R on a brand new 4R TRD ORP W/KDSS. The Trade difference was only $6000. Nothing holds its resale value like a 4R.
We have similar vehicles here in Australia.( Prado and Fortuner) but the big difference is 95% are Turbo Diesels. But I'm quite happy with my 2017 Turbo Diesel Nissan Navara.
We really wish the US would lighten up on diesel restrictions so they're efficient and reliable here again. We're jealous of your diesels!
My 4Runner comes in at the end of January I’m trading in my 2022 SRT Durango so definitely going to be a big difference. I also owned like 4 wrangler and two grand Cherokee so I’m finally biting the built and going Toyota.
I have a 2002 sequoia from auction for just under $3k, 168k with inner tire wear and a beat up body lol! The non VVTi and 4 speed def feels the weight here in Colorado. It’s been a road warrior for 4 kids and 2 dogs. She just got a new timing kit and I must say, some of the cleanest valve covers I’ve ever seen!
How is your frame holding up? My 2003 sequoia frame rotted to pieces.
Great information and commentary , I love my 2019 gx , great job
Well after driving 4x4 1/2 ton Trucks for the last 35 years I bought a 2022 4Runner TRD Pro and put a set of Rock-sliders on and when I wear out the tires I will put on 275 70 17R tires and call it good as this is my hunting truck and FYI I am also 6’2 and find it very comfortable. I am also found it more capable than any truck I have had off road.
I came from the same background. 4Runner blew my mind!
My wife and I have owned a 2020 4Runner and a 2018 GX460. Wife loves the luxury aspect of the GX, and also the hatch on the 4Runner was heavy for her. I love driving her GX for the V8, a lot more pep to her step then my 97 Land Cruiser. Definitely concur on the AC controls!
@justin4wd Hi, thanks for sharing your experience. Just wondering how would you say their difference in comfortness when traveling long distances such as seats, noise on highway, maneuverability on highway, or other factors. Thanks.
We currently have 2012 S550 and 2020 F350 DRW 6.7 Lariat. We put the order in for 2023 or 2024 F450 DRW Limited HO 6.7 and looking to possibly getting 2024 Toyoda Land Cruiser - upper trim when available or 2024 GX 500.. My wife is leaning toward GX 500 and I am for Land Cruiser. Isn't maintenance cost lower with Toyota than Lexus? I know Lexus uses premium gas but not sure of what is recommended for Land Cruiser. Lastly, I am going to double check on mpg?
Thanks for the great video Kevin. I’m getting read to purchase a used GX460 for my wife as a family hauler/sleeper off roader.
What great commentary and I agree both are winners! In regards to your comments on steering pull and steering rack replacement - it's likely the aggressive offset wheels. Impacts scrub radius and torque steer on power, as well as puts much more load on the steering rack.
My first Toyota is my current (2019 luxury) Lexus GX460. I absolutely love it. It’s a lovely place to be, and I look forward to doing some light to moderate off roading, and going from there.
I am currently planning to trade my 2014 Jeep Wrangler for a 2022 4Runner TRD Off-Road. I love the Wrangler and it has never left me stranded, but at 139,670 miles it is developing some significant engine issues even though I have meticulously stayed ahead of routine maintenance and upkeep.
Nice comparison.! The window switches on the GX460 are my biggest peeve. Followed closely by the overly aggressive cruise control at highway speeds, then the radio power button and b-pillar.
Right?! Such a simple thing but it pisses me off every time, lol. Oh I meant to mention the cruise control just shuts off on ours if the bill is too tall. It won't downshift!
@@LifestyleOverland wow! That's what my '85 Camry used to do. The gx will will wait forever to downshift then drop 2 or 3 gears to maintain speed. I just preemptively downshift to keep my sanity.
What's wrong with the window switches 😊
This is crazy. I was sure set on a 5th gen 4Runner for an overland build until I actually drove one. The thing was crazy underpowered with the 5 speed transmission; I nearly met my maker trying to overtake on a mountain pass in Colorado. My friend recommended the V8 GX460 and here I am watching this. But the even crazier part is that you can buy a used GX460 for the same price as an older 4Runner, WILD!
Lexus GX460 any time
Great video and thanks for for making my decision a lot more difficult!
I had a 19 4R Trd for 3 years. Now im driving a 19 GX460. The Lexus is a lot better on long road trips. It definitely drives a lot smoother at higher highway speeds. But with that said, I would opt for my 4 Runner for the trails any day.
i agree with you. Sometime I even think that Toyota didn't design the Lexus. 4Runners are so better layout inside and outside.
You guys might wanna grab the 4Runner before it’s gone. The softex seats are sturdy and you get heated option. I love em
Nah. I can’t live with the gas mileage of the current Runner. Waiting for the redesign
I drovethe 4runner trd sport and Lexus GX, the GX drove a little better, but the 4 runner felt better for some reason, I had more leg room, it just felt better.
Great video!!!! I currently have a 4Runner and wanted fo add a GX to my vehicle collection.
Great review. After picking up a mint '14 GX and showing it of to a couple T4R buddies, they're now GX owners and haven't looked back! Two things on the GX, in order of importance:
1. Regarding transmission durability, Toyota uses marginal non-synth fluid in both vehicles with a tested flash point of 325F, and insult to injury, LexYota includes a separate OEM oil cooler in every OTHER market than the US!! As if we ALL only mawl-crawl these beasts!?! Good news is, the OEM cooler can be pieced together for ~$350, and installed by any decent home mechanic in a couple hrs, or ~$300-400 via any reputable shop... and swap in Valvoline Maxlife transmission fluid (725F flashpoint) while you're at it. 3-4 consecutive "drain and fills" will get you 90-95% fuild replacement, as not all fluid can be swapped at once.
2. Regular fuel is more than fine in the GX. Its mill is the identical truck engine, used in identical form/tune w/86-87 octane in numerous other applications.
In a nutshell, gas up your GX with regular, and spend your savings on an OEM transmission cooler and a decent synth fluid... It's the best $700 saved/spent on your GX in the next 2 years. Enjoy!
Great info. I tow with our 470 (I think those HAVE trans coolers) and just change the fluid every 40k miles (I've gone synth as well). Still shifting beautifully at nearly 200k miles - though I will say that the fluid does look a little used after 40k, so beware buying these things with 100k+ miles if they haven't had the trans fluid changed...
@@mattclark1278 amen, great work and advice! Yes I’ve too since learned the 470’s got a cooler. Great rigs!
The algorithm sent me your video here and it’s the first one I’ve seen from, and first time I’ve ever even seen, your channel to begin with. Both are beautiful trucks!! Speaking of beautiful, you’ve got a beautiful family brother, good for you! So yeah I’m a new Yota owner. I recently, four months ago, traded my lifted 2015 F2FIDDY 6.7 PowerStroke Diesel, for my 2021 Yota 4Runner TRD ORP w/XP Predator Pkg. midnight black metallic with black interior and I’m getting 19/21mpg’s and my F2FIDDY was gettin 8/10mpg’s on diesel. Absolutely love my 5th Gen and probably a good thing I got the 5th gen as it’s really looking like the 6th is gonna be forced induction or a hybrid and not the bulletproof 2nd gen 1GR-FE and will further increase the values of the 5th gens.
At any rate, appreciate the video and lookin forward to seeing more from the channel!
Geez this is what a deep review/comparison means! Thanks for sharing...
Im in the market for either 4runner or GX. So I definitely appreciate this video!!
Glad it was helpful!
I bought a new 4.7-liter V8 4Runner Sport (in silver) way back in 2004, and I'm still driving it every day. It's still in very good shape and will probably outlive me.
i have a 2004 sequoia with same engine. 280k on odometer. not the smoothest ride but never let me down
I have a 2003 V8 and was about to make the same statement. That car is my daily driver and I am convinced that it will run forever, with only basic maintenance.
Great video well done. Super informative.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I absolutely love the 4runner
KDSS gives better articulation than even ditching front and rear sway bars, it is an amazing system.
Having owned both, the GX is just superior in every single way.
The GX just has such a goofball looking front end that I can't get over. Looks great from the rear though. I'm sure we've all known chicks like this.
Also, the 4Runner is cheaper to operate and to maintain. They are comparable in reliability and life expectancy to the GXs as well.
But the GXs are much less common (which I respect as a selling point), and has more power than the 4Runner, though not much.
I love my GX! Takes on the Colorado mountains with ease!